I have the older DX3pro hooked up to my powered speakers and agree it is a great little dac/headphone amp. I've had it running for about 3 years now with no problems.
hello i have the dx3 pro+, can you tell me how to hook this up to the powered speakers? and how do you switch the output between headphones or speakers? I just got the kanto yu4 speakers. sorry for the noob question
@@poptartjesus1942 bought the DX3 pro+ couple months ago. hooked it up to my powered speakers using RCA cable, which plugs on to the back of the topping. headphones are plugged to the output jack up front. switching is very easy with the remote provided.
@@Lesparta The issue I have is that my powered speakers came with a Green Line Out L/R connector and not RCA connectors. These speakers will barely benefit from a DAC, if at all however, I have studio headphones that will. The ease of life that comes with switching is a plus for me as well as better quality sound as I am a student studying media and content creation. I was unsure if you had the same type of issue of not having RCA cabled speakers using a DAC. I would say I am an even worse noob when it comes to audio, if you could shine any light on what you've learned, I would greatly appreciate it.
@@poptartjesus1942 so from my understanding is that your speaker only has a single port on the back which is a 3.5mm jack for receiving signal. if that's so i think you could use an RCA to AUX cable. Hope this answers your question. EDIT: alternatively, you could also plug your speaker connection directly to your computer, and have your headphones plugged to the Topping DAC, but you wont be able to use the remote to switch between speakers and headphones, you will have to select the output you want on your computer. That's how i used to do it.
Hi, I canceled my Topping E30 order yesterday, cuz it's bad preamp performance (I was intended to connect my active speakers into my TV via optical and get the benefit from the remote control), now I'm thinking about the DX3 Pro+, how it performs as a preamp in this case (TV> DX3 > Active speakers).
To help others. It is not clear in the directions on how to get this DAC into setup mode/menu. You unplug it. Hold the volume button in and while doing so, plug it in. The setup menu is the only place to select DAC mode, fixed volume m-d mode.
So can you have 2 inputs selected at the same time? I'd like to plug in my guitar sound with coax and have a playback via Bluetooth or USB at the same time
How well do the 6 or 7 filters work? 9;35 mark. How good are the bass /treble controls on the topping mx-5. I guess, because I have bass treble contols on my samsung phone and tablet, they probably are not necessary. What are other peoples thoughts on this? Thanks
The digital filters do next to nothing - you'd be hard-pressed to notice any difference between them. However, the tone controls on the MX-5 work well and are a better solution than software-based ones on your phone.
this was so informative, that the only question I am left with from this video is deciding wether the plant in the top right corner is a silent statement or not. ;)
Bought this around a year ago to replace my 10 years old Topping D2. A huge upgrade, functionally and sound performance. It uses LM4562 opamps, which perform better than the infamous LM5532
Hi, im new to all of this, i just order an HD560 with this dac/amp. What settings do i use? dac alone? amp + dac? what gain settings? advice is highly appreciated thanks.
I'm thinking of buying a DAC TOPPING DX3 PRO PLUS, to connect to the PC or Smartphone via USB or Bluetooth, and also to connect the TV via Optical Digital and to connect to my Vintage Amplifier TECHNICS SU VX-600. Do you think I will get better PC sound from Mp3 320k music with this DAC? than for example a CD in a CD player connected directly to the Amplifier ? or doing this reading of mp3 from the CD player with USB input?.
I believe it is more comparable with fiio bta30pro than k5 Pro. Both uses the same dac chip but the Bluetooth processor is different. I wonder how would both compare against each another.
I can't get into the settings as described in the instructions. (Press and hold the knob first when the power is off, and then power up to enter the setup menu.) Can anyone help me solve this problem, what am I doing wrong? I need to change Screen Display on m-d (DAC Mode).
@@bikesandfamily3082 I prefer the versatility of the headphone outputs on the Zen. Obviously you'll need the Topping if you want Bluetooth input though.
But the chip is the same of my dac-amp Fiio Ka3. Unfortunately I've yet bought this topping, and am waiting for the shipping to come. On y'all's opinion, will there be any real (not placebo!!!!) improvement over the dongle ?!?!?! Taken that my interest is ONLY the plug and play for headphones and speakers... not Bluetooth, not RCA, not optical exit. (The dongle has moreover also the balanced output!). I'm really hoping for someone's reply. Thanks
Hi there! i could really use some help! Can u control/mute the volume through Windows(volume mixer or keyboard shortcuts) if you have the Topping pluged in? Also can you control the volume of ur speakers from the Topping remote, if they are plugged in the Topping unit? For example some popular DACs like Zen v2, bypass the volume mixer of windows which is a bummer.
It only needs a Windows driver for WASAPI if I remember correctly - for general use it's just plug and play. It doesn't require any drivers for Bluetooth and Android.
I miss the headphone to line out auto-switch from the DAC-M1! DX3 Pro headphone amp has higher power output and sounds cleaner. I prefer the menu system on DAC-M1.
No, you can only stream to the DAC, not from it. Your Bluetooth headphones won't work with any DAC because they already have their own Qualcomm chip doing the conversion.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Ok I found interesting device FiiO BTA-30 Pro. It review by Z Reviews. It is also dac. But I wanted connect to my existing dac. PC -> My DAC -> FiiO BTA-30 Pro -> my headphones
Hi sir I want something DAC to use with my Mackie powered speakers 1500 RMS ..I never use headphones ..I like to shake my room . Do i still need an amp inside of the DAC for better sound ? What would you recommend for a good price .Love you channel tooooo.
You can easily stream music from a phone, tablet or laptop etc. You don't need to be physically connected to the DAC and it just adds a layer of versatility.
@@PrimeAudioReviews that’s perfect. I’ve been looking for an all-in-one DAC amp solution for a long time. This looks like the best fit. Now to decide between HD6XX and HD560S…
Does using a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter negate any benefits of using balanced cables with the DX3 Pro+? Sorry for the noob question, kinda new to all this :") I wanted to get this unit very badly but if using an adapter does not allow me to reap the benefits of using my balanced cables this DAC might be out the question...
Yes, this unit is single-ended only. Whether you'd hear a difference between balanced and SE is questionable though. But if you want a true balanced headphone amp you'll have to pay a bit more.
@@PrimeAudioReviews ah, I see. So far for my Fiio FH5 I heard a distinct difference with balanced cables compared to unbalanced, so was looking for an affordable DAC/AMP with 2.5mm output in addition to the standard 3.5mm... no luck so far
@@PrimeAudioReviews I watched your video on it! Am actually looking for an all-in-one DAC+AMP with a 2.5mm balanced out. Was considering Shanling UP5 but heard there were significant firmware issues/bugs. The only other option I know of is the Qudelix 5K, but that may just be a sidegrade rather than an upgrade to my Radsone ES100 EDIT: Realised your video was on the KA3 :') These naming schemes have gotta go...
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Thanks for the review!.. I just bought the DX3Pro+ and am using it with powered speakers (Jamo S801 PM).. I'm a musician so I have a kind of trained ears and my feelings is that the sound of this dac is good but weaker bass compared to using the internal Jamo's usb connection. It's a pity because of course using this dac I have more versatility but I'm not sure why I'm receiving a lack of bass. Is it a speaker or dac problem?.. is the speaker's rca input worse than using the internal speakers dac through usb? I tried different modes with topping (pre-amp also gain mode) but I'm still getting weaker bass instead of using the powered speakers internal dac to my pc. It supposed you buy a dac like topping to get better sound to your powered speakers but not the opposite. Yes, I can read on topping's a bit rate up to 32 bit / 384Hz but my ears don't lie to me and the sound is not as good as using the speakers by itself. There is something wrong with the topping dac? or it is what it is...
It's got a nice headphone amp and is good for KATO. The only alternative that comes to mind is the FX-Audio DAC-M1 which is also nice and has a handy headphone/line out auto switch function.
thank you for the review, been looking forward for this unit. Have you any idea how this stacks up against the Ifi Zen Dac? That in my mind is the biggest competition as an “all-in-one”
The TOPPING has more input options (coax + optical) and a much higher output power on the headphone amp. On the other hand, Zen has bass boost and a balanced headphone out. Both very compelling units and both sound amazing. It really comes down to which features you prefer.
@@PrimeAudioReviews totally the reason I opted for this over the Zen Dac - love the Zen but limited to the USB input was a turn off. Got the unit yesterday and now I'm trawling RUclips watching reviews to help validate my purchase lol! Perfect unit for my bedroom - Schiiit stack in my home office.
@@PrimeAudioReviews I guess it's strange because it's unusual, but in practical terms, it's not so strange because most headphones have 3.5mm connectors.
@@abdulahsan3121 There's practically 0 difference. Both use the same ES9038Q2M DAC chip and the only notable change is in the output stage. I would probably choose the DX3 Pro+ only because of the Bluetooth - otherwise, I prefer the 6.35mm jack and the physical gain switches on the FiiO.
Great review! You convinced me to get this one. What should I set the gain to on this with the Hifiman Sundara's? I'm concerned about the Sundara's sounding too bright and causing ear fatigue. What volume level do you personally use for these headphones on this amp? thx!
@@PrimeAudioReviews oh ok. Thanks. I recently got those Sundara's you mentioned, and also the Sennheiser 560s. I'm deciding between the two, which one I should watch my first movie with. hmm😏
@@PrimeAudioReviews I Am subscribed! One more question..Can DX1 also drive Hd800s as it have correct port, so dont have to buy an adapter LOVED THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR VIEWERS! thank you so much
3.5 has nothing to with Cheap or Expensive. You can also use Cables with 3.5 Connector on High End Headphones and many come with a pair of these. The benefit is that 6.3 is very easy to adapt down to 3.5. The Other way is way more... stupid looking.
6.3 is significantly more durable than the 3.5. The difference is just massive. 6.3 is standard in studios for that single reason, lasts 10+ year's and we all used smartphones and we know how long 3.5 lasts. 3.5 alone is the reason why I would never but this product.
Sennheiser 560s most people consider a VERY GOOD headphone for 90% of people out there. It terminates into a 3.5mm 😎 just saying, 6.35mm is not the best. And actually, many people would argue that balanced is the way to go over the others. End of the day, don't gatekeep, you should encourage everyone to enjoy their music to the best they can
Hi, I've been wondering if this can drive sundara to maximize its potential. I've been eyeing for 1. zen dac v2 + zen can 2. Schiit stack heressy (not locally available so might be hard to get it here in PH) 3. Dx3pro+ I also ordered Sony CD900ST which will be delivered by mid Feb. Or can you suggest a much better dac + amp combo ( my budget is 400$ ) combined Thank you so much!
Yes, all 3 you listed are good with Sundara. I'd say the ifi Zen stack would give you the most versatility if you want to get a balanced cable/IEM/headphone in the future.
Thanks for the review! This or Zen Dac V2 for Sundaras? Looking for a 'pleasant'(not necessarily reference) listening experience. Zen dac is a bit cheaper and runs off of USB power, which is tempting. Apparently, it measures worse, but warms up the Sundaras. This has better measurements and extra power. Will it actually make a difference as some would have it?
Either one is nice for the Sundara. Like you say, Dx3 Pro + has more power but the Zen has more than enough as well. If you go the Zen route, I'd suggest you get the V2.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thanks so much! One more: does it make sense to add a zen can to this setup? If the zen dac has enough power on its own, would I be buying anything more than sound effects(3d etc)? Some swear the Can makes all the difference compared to the dac alone but I'm not sure they're not simply trying to justify another purchase. I wanna know what I really need to get the Sundaras to come close to giving their best:) Cheers and all the best!
@@zaq9339 In my opinion, adding the Can is unnecessary, unless you specifically feel that the DX3 Pro Plus doesn't have enough power output on its own. If you think adding another amp is necessary then perhaps you simply don't like the tonality of the Sundara and should consider different headphones rather than adding more components to your audio chain.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Alright then, so it's down to which dac/amp combo of the two sounds better to me as both have sufficient power to drive headphones like the Sundaras. Adding a separate amp is diminishing returns in my case. This makes my life easier :) Much appreciated!
It's not David, but hands of David. Saying your name without showing face is same thing as greeting someone and asking about his life while watching somewhere else. Critic should be constructive, so: your manner of speaking is nice and kind of "fellow" type. That's why seeing the face would do this video even better. Video itself is good and you good as well, just combine these things 👍🏽
If only it could transmit Bluetooth as well. I have been thinking about replacing my BTA30 with one of these as I've just got into [wired] IEMs but I guess I'd have to keep both as I have Bluetooth earbuds and headphones. Nice review BTW, thanks.
A balanced headphone connection could possibly be an inexpensive add on for Topping. But I suspect a true balanced amp circuit would add $$ complexity to the design.
@@PrimeAudioReviews this comparison is what I'm looking for, can't find any reviews between both of them online. Say if I do not need to use it with headphone, bta30 pro will work wonder if it's just between TV optical/bt ldac and output speaker?
Sorry, but the ballanced do actually sound better, the difference is so obvious in every aspect of the sound. If you can't hear it it's sad and this hobby is not for you.
Bought it a few days ago, top-notch for music in FLAC. I got one question to you people though. It's my first DAC, and I'm curious if I can utilize the sound card with it to get advantage or SBS or equalizer. I game also a bit and got a sound blaster zxr and a z5500 as Dolby for my pc and HIFI headsets besides. (Sennheiser HD 560s,dt990 pro, akg etc. Is it even remotely possible? Saw on a forum someone asking more or less the same. One said to him yes but didn't say how lol. I'm gathering intel. In USB ofc it works, sound quality even in game is better than the Zxr but the EQ ain't good (using peace for it). Positioning is a bit non-existent. Let s say it compensates a bit because I can hear from beyond, but it's all confusing Now I've tried to link in optical my sound card to the Pro plus to get the best out of both, and it's making a grzzzzjjjjjjt continuously.. don't know how you experts call that. I've asked a friend from afar dj he said that this noise would be a routing problem eventually... but could it be a setting somewhere I'm missing to set to just say hey I want this as master and this one as slave. So far it's a bit Chinese to me, but I'm learning...
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I have the older DX3pro hooked up to my powered speakers and agree it is a great little dac/headphone amp. I've had it running for about 3 years now with no problems.
hello i have the dx3 pro+, can you tell me how to hook this up to the powered speakers? and how do you switch the output between headphones or speakers? I just got the kanto yu4 speakers. sorry for the noob question
@@Lesparta Did you ever find this out?
@@poptartjesus1942 bought the DX3 pro+ couple months ago. hooked it up to my powered speakers using RCA cable, which plugs on to the back of the topping. headphones are plugged to the output jack up front. switching is very easy with the remote provided.
@@Lesparta The issue I have is that my powered speakers came with a Green Line Out L/R connector and not RCA connectors. These speakers will barely benefit from a DAC, if at all however, I have studio headphones that will. The ease of life that comes with switching is a plus for me as well as better quality sound as I am a student studying media and content creation. I was unsure if you had the same type of issue of not having RCA cabled speakers using a DAC. I would say I am an even worse noob when it comes to audio, if you could shine any light on what you've learned, I would greatly appreciate it.
@@poptartjesus1942 so from my understanding is that your speaker only has a single port on the back which is a 3.5mm jack for receiving signal. if that's so i think you could use an RCA to AUX cable. Hope this answers your question.
EDIT: alternatively, you could also plug your speaker connection directly to your computer, and have your headphones plugged to the Topping DAC, but you wont be able to use the remote to switch between speakers and headphones, you will have to select the output you want on your computer. That's how i used to do it.
Hi, I canceled my Topping E30 order yesterday, cuz it's bad preamp performance (I was intended to connect my active speakers into my TV via optical and get the benefit from the remote control), now I'm thinking about the DX3 Pro+, how it performs as a preamp in this case (TV> DX3 > Active speakers).
Finally a real review of this thing. Thank you.
To help others. It is not clear in the directions on how to get this DAC into setup mode/menu. You unplug it. Hold the volume button in and while doing so, plug it in. The setup menu is the only place to select DAC mode, fixed volume m-d mode.
soundwise how does it compare to an ifi hipdac
Awesome review! Thank you, David!
It comes with remote ,right?
Yes, it does.
So can you have 2 inputs selected at the same time? I'd like to plug in my guitar sound with coax and have a playback via Bluetooth or USB at the same time
Only 1 input at any time.
@@PrimeAudioReviews ok, thanks!
I didn't even know the coax inputs were digital, i'd need an analog input too..
How well do the 6 or 7 filters work? 9;35 mark. How good are the bass /treble controls on the topping mx-5. I guess, because I have bass treble contols on my samsung phone and tablet, they probably are not necessary. What are other peoples thoughts on this? Thanks
The digital filters do next to nothing - you'd be hard-pressed to notice any difference between them. However, the tone controls on the MX-5 work well and are a better solution than software-based ones on your phone.
Can I add the op amp sparkos ss3602 to the MX-5? If I can, it would probably convince me to purchase the MX-5. Thanks
So if I get this for my Genelec 8010a (Active Speakers)then im good right?Would use it for my computer setup and a cd player.
Yes, it should be ideal for that.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thank you for your fast reply!Now i can finally purchase it after weeks of researching!
this was so informative, that the only question I am left with from this video is deciding wether the plant in the top right corner is a silent statement or not. ;)
Bought this around a year ago to replace my 10 years old Topping D2. A huge upgrade, functionally and sound performance. It uses LM4562 opamps, which perform better than the infamous LM5532
It's a very solid unit.
Hi, im new to all of this, i just order an HD560 with this dac/amp. What settings do i use? dac alone? amp + dac? what gain settings? advice is highly appreciated thanks.
Hi. Amp + dac. I'd start on low gain but if you think it needs more volume or power just change to high gain.
Is the DX3 Pro a Roon ready endpoint?
I'm thinking of buying a DAC TOPPING DX3 PRO PLUS, to connect to the PC or Smartphone via USB or Bluetooth, and also to connect the TV via Optical Digital and to connect to my Vintage Amplifier TECHNICS SU VX-600.
Do you think I will get better PC sound from Mp3 320k music with this DAC? than for example a CD in a CD player connected directly to the Amplifier ? or doing this reading of mp3 from the CD player with USB input?.
what does the bluetooth do? is it only as input so we connect it to our phone or can itu also pair it to our wireless buds and output to them?
The Bluetooth is for input only. You can connect with your phone, laptop, tablet or DAP.
@@alfredg.m, is only to connect the phone or pc Bluetooth.
But also with wire.
Can output sound from DAC is better than CD player?
Thanhs
Oh so for the output it is only with the 3.5mm jack? Btw does it have a lot of floor noise? I am planning to use with iems
What do you think of this compared to the new Fiio K5 pro ESS? Same chip and just came out last month.
Can't say as I haven't tried it or read up on it.
Would like an answer to this question as well! Some1 can share their knowledge?
I just went with a topping dx3 pro plus. I use it with Tygr 300 beyers. Really enjoying it!!
I believe it is more comparable with fiio bta30pro than k5 Pro. Both uses the same dac chip but the Bluetooth processor is different. I wonder how would both compare against each another.
I can't get into the settings as described in the instructions. (Press and hold the knob first when the power is off, and then power up to enter the setup menu.) Can anyone help me solve this problem, what am I doing wrong? I need to change Screen Display on m-d (DAC Mode).
nice review. wondering how this is compared with zen dac v2? also if i get the zen dac do i also need to get a separate amp?
I haven't tried the V2 but DX3 Pro+ is a bit more transparent than the original Zen. You don't need a separate amp with the Zend DAC.
@@PrimeAudioReviews would you recommend dx3 pro + or zen dac?
@@bikesandfamily3082 I prefer the versatility of the headphone outputs on the Zen. Obviously you'll need the Topping if you want Bluetooth input though.
@@PrimeAudioReviews whats the benefit of the bluetooth input? im mainly using it on my desktop and for gaming
@@bikesandfamily3082 It just means you can stream music to it directly from your phone.
I already have the topping MX5 amp/dac for my desktop 2.0 stereo bookshelf speakers. Is it worth the upgrade on the dac and Bluetooth.
This would not be an upgrade.
But the chip is the same of my dac-amp Fiio Ka3. Unfortunately I've yet bought this topping, and am waiting for the shipping to come. On y'all's opinion, will there be any real (not placebo!!!!) improvement over the dongle ?!?!?! Taken that my interest is ONLY the plug and play for headphones and speakers... not Bluetooth, not RCA, not optical exit. (The dongle has moreover also the balanced output!).
I'm really hoping for someone's reply. Thanks
It's a definite step up for me, especially for headphones and speakers. If you're going for desktop, get this for sure.
Would this be able to power the DT 880 600 ohm headphones?
Eazy peazy
dx3 pro vs 30ii?
Hi there! i could really use some help! Can u control/mute the volume through Windows(volume mixer or keyboard shortcuts) if you have the Topping pluged in?
Also can you control the volume of ur speakers from the Topping remote, if they are plugged in the Topping unit?
For example some popular DACs like Zen v2, bypass the volume mixer of windows which is a bummer.
You can do both but you would have to switch between DAC mode (adjust pc volume) and preamp mode (adjust speakers from Topping remote).
@@PrimeAudioReviews Nice. Thank you for your help i think ima pull the trigger
I know that it requires installation of driver on Windows.
Does it require installation of driver for bluetooth connection to android phone ?
It only needs a Windows driver for WASAPI if I remember correctly - for general use it's just plug and play. It doesn't require any drivers for Bluetooth and Android.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thanks a lot.
How does it compare to FX Audio DAC-M1?
I miss the headphone to line out auto-switch from the DAC-M1! DX3 Pro headphone amp has higher power output and sounds cleaner. I prefer the menu system on DAC-M1.
Can I stream music to my bluetooth headphones? PC -> DAC -> bluetooth -> headphones ?
No, you can only stream to the DAC, not from it. Your Bluetooth headphones won't work with any DAC because they already have their own Qualcomm chip doing the conversion.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Ok I found interesting device FiiO BTA-30 Pro. It review by Z Reviews. It is also dac. But I wanted connect to my existing dac. PC -> My DAC -> FiiO BTA-30 Pro -> my headphones
Hi sir I want something DAC to use with my Mackie powered speakers 1500 RMS ..I never use headphones ..I like to shake my room . Do i still need an amp inside of the DAC for better sound ? What would you recommend for a good price .Love you channel tooooo.
I'd recommend the TOPPING D10 Balanced.
@@PrimeAudioReviews exactly what I was thinking .THANK YOU !
I guess could use it with usb c to usb input converter with my android phone... Could it work?
It should work with an OTG cable. Or you can just stream to it with Bluetooth.
What are the use cases of Bluetooth here? New to this and can’t see how you would use that, though I’m curious.
You can easily stream music from a phone, tablet or laptop etc. You don't need to be physically connected to the DAC and it just adds a layer of versatility.
@@PrimeAudioReviews that’s perfect. I’ve been looking for an all-in-one DAC amp solution for a long time. This looks like the best fit. Now to decide between HD6XX and HD560S…
Watching TV. You can connect headphones and not disturb any one else
Which headphone did you buy? I'm planning upgrade my dt900prox to hd660s2, but I don't know if dx3 pro+ can drive 300 ohm.@@zranger1000
Does using a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter negate any benefits of using balanced cables with the DX3 Pro+? Sorry for the noob question, kinda new to all this :") I wanted to get this unit very badly but if using an adapter does not allow me to reap the benefits of using my balanced cables this DAC might be out the question...
Yes, this unit is single-ended only. Whether you'd hear a difference between balanced and SE is questionable though. But if you want a true balanced headphone amp you'll have to pay a bit more.
@@PrimeAudioReviews ah, I see. So far for my Fiio FH5 I heard a distinct difference with balanced cables compared to unbalanced, so was looking for an affordable DAC/AMP with 2.5mm output in addition to the standard 3.5mm... no luck so far
@@TF2ReplayMaker Do you just need a headphone amp? Check out the FiiO New K3.
@@PrimeAudioReviews I watched your video on it! Am actually looking for an all-in-one DAC+AMP with a 2.5mm balanced out.
Was considering Shanling UP5 but heard there were significant firmware issues/bugs. The only other option I know of is the Qudelix 5K, but that may just be a sidegrade rather than an upgrade to my Radsone ES100
EDIT: Realised your video was on the KA3 :') These naming schemes have gotta go...
Thanks for the review!..
I just bought the DX3Pro+ and am using it with powered speakers (Jamo S801 PM).. I'm a musician so I have a kind of trained ears and my feelings is that the sound of this dac is good but weaker bass compared to using the internal Jamo's usb connection. It's a pity because of course using this dac I have more versatility but I'm not sure why I'm receiving a lack of bass. Is it a speaker or dac problem?.. is the speaker's rca input worse than using the internal speakers dac through usb?
I tried different modes with topping (pre-amp also gain mode) but I'm still getting weaker bass instead of using the powered speakers internal dac to my pc. It supposed you buy a dac like topping to get better sound to your powered speakers but not the opposite. Yes, I can read on topping's a bit rate up to 32 bit / 384Hz but my ears don't lie to me and the sound is not as good as using the speakers by itself. There is something wrong with the topping dac? or it is what it is...
The speakers DAC is applying some form of DSP to the signal while the topping is dead flat.
How is this for iems like moondrop kato or blessing 2 ? Any alternative all in one solutions for about the same amount of money ?
It's got a nice headphone amp and is good for KATO. The only alternative that comes to mind is the FX-Audio DAC-M1 which is also nice and has a handy headphone/line out auto switch function.
thank you for the review, been looking forward for this unit. Have you any idea how this stacks up against the Ifi Zen Dac? That in my mind is the biggest competition as an “all-in-one”
The TOPPING has more input options (coax + optical) and a much higher output power on the headphone amp. On the other hand, Zen has bass boost and a balanced headphone out. Both very compelling units and both sound amazing. It really comes down to which features you prefer.
@@PrimeAudioReviews totally the reason I opted for this over the Zen Dac - love the Zen but limited to the USB input was a turn off. Got the unit yesterday and now I'm trawling RUclips watching reviews to help validate my purchase lol! Perfect unit for my bedroom - Schiiit stack in my home office.
Do you have to manually select audio source every time you change it? Or can it auto sense /prioritise?
Can it use with ps5?
Not sure about that. I'd recommend saving a bit more for the SMSL RAW - MDA 1 which does support it and is better overall.
I'm just wondering why they went for the 3.5 mm headphone out instead of 6,35 mm considering the DX3 Pro+ doesn't work well with low impedance IEM-s.
Yeah, it's kinda strange.
@@PrimeAudioReviews I guess it's strange because it's unusual, but in practical terms, it's not so strange because most headphones have 3.5mm connectors.
why do you say it does not work well with low impedence iems - i wanted to buy one of these for my iems lol
@@szlamfire it does perfect with iems, it have low gain option as well very low 0.1 impadence output
I'm expecting the delivery of this device within 6 hours :b
Is this newer than the LDAC version?
This one has LDAC.
Will my Bluetooth earbuds work with this thing❓
No, it can receive Bluetooth only.
@@PrimeAudioReviews I see. Thanks! :)
this or fiio k5pro ?
This if you want Bluetooth. K5 Pro if you want 6.35mm jack.
@@PrimeAudioReviews in term of audio quality?
@@abdulahsan3121 There's practically 0 difference. Both use the same ES9038Q2M DAC chip and the only notable change is in the output stage. I would probably choose the DX3 Pro+ only because of the Bluetooth - otherwise, I prefer the 6.35mm jack and the physical gain switches on the FiiO.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thank you
Great review! You convinced me to get this one.
What should I set the gain to on this with the Hifiman Sundara's?
I'm concerned about the Sundara's sounding too bright and causing ear fatigue. What volume level do you personally use for these headphones on this amp? thx!
High gain. I. Usually listen at about 25%
@@PrimeAudioReviews oh ok. Thanks. I recently got those Sundara's you mentioned, and also the Sennheiser 560s.
I'm deciding between the two, which one I should watch my first movie with.
hmm😏
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Did you mean at -25 decibels?
Can it perfectly drive HD800s? New to headphones. If yes, How should i connect them to my macbook pro?
Great video by the way. Gonna Subscribe
Yes, it can drive HD800s. You connect it to your macbook with usb cable.
@@PrimeAudioReviews I Am subscribed! One more question..Can DX1 also drive Hd800s as it have correct port, so dont have to buy an adapter
LOVED THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR VIEWERS!
thank you so much
I'm confident the DX1 would be fine but without having any HD800s to test I can't say for sure, so take it with a grain of salt.
а как вы думаете, этот намного лучше будет SMSL DO200 ?
Lower harmonic noise? Noice.
Grazie, ottimo lavoro
3.5 is not weird, most headphones have 3.5mm, why use a bulky adapter if you dont need it :D
high-end headphones uses almost always 6.3, the cheap ones uses 3.5 (headsets) with some exceptings ofc
Then its even more sensible to have 3.5mm by your reason.
3.5 has nothing to with Cheap or Expensive. You can also use Cables with 3.5 Connector on High End Headphones and many come with a pair of these.
The benefit is that 6.3 is very easy to adapt down to 3.5. The Other way is way more... stupid looking.
6.3 is significantly more durable than the 3.5. The difference is just massive. 6.3 is standard in studios for that single reason, lasts 10+ year's and we all used smartphones and we know how long 3.5 lasts. 3.5 alone is the reason why I would never but this product.
Sennheiser 560s most people consider a VERY GOOD headphone for 90% of people out there. It terminates into a 3.5mm 😎 just saying, 6.35mm is not the best. And actually, many people would argue that balanced is the way to go over the others. End of the day, don't gatekeep, you should encourage everyone to enjoy their music to the best they can
Hi, I've been wondering if this can drive sundara to maximize its potential. I've been eyeing for
1. zen dac v2 + zen can
2. Schiit stack heressy (not locally available so might be hard to get it here in PH)
3. Dx3pro+
I also ordered Sony CD900ST which will be delivered by mid Feb.
Or can you suggest a much better dac + amp combo ( my budget is 400$ ) combined
Thank you so much!
Yes, all 3 you listed are good with Sundara. I'd say the ifi Zen stack would give you the most versatility if you want to get a balanced cable/IEM/headphone in the future.
bro, ano kinuha mo dac/amp? sundara din gamit ko, gusto ko sana ung neutral sound kasi for mixing and mastering purpose ko.
Work for me, thanks.
Hello! Can i use 20V 2A power supply to improve sound quality or it will burn my Topping? 😥
i bought this dac. it sounds clinical and crispy but it's not musical. Feels like each instrument is playing in a separate room.
Do the PS5 and XSX work with this?
I don't have any game consoles to test with.
Does this only work on bluetooth or it can also be connected to a pc directly?
It can be connected to a pc via USB or optical.
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Thanks for the review!
This or Zen Dac V2 for Sundaras? Looking for a 'pleasant'(not necessarily reference) listening experience. Zen dac is a bit cheaper and runs off of USB power, which is tempting. Apparently, it measures worse, but warms up the Sundaras. This has better measurements and extra power. Will it actually make a difference as some would have it?
Either one is nice for the Sundara. Like you say, Dx3 Pro + has more power but the Zen has more than enough as well. If you go the Zen route, I'd suggest you get the V2.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thanks so much! One more: does it make sense to add a zen can to this setup? If the zen dac has enough power on its own, would I be buying anything more than sound effects(3d etc)? Some swear the Can makes all the difference compared to the dac alone but I'm not sure they're not simply trying to justify another purchase. I wanna know what I really need to get the Sundaras to come close to giving their best:) Cheers and all the best!
@@zaq9339 In my opinion, adding the Can is unnecessary, unless you specifically feel that the DX3 Pro Plus doesn't have enough power output on its own. If you think adding another amp is necessary then perhaps you simply don't like the tonality of the Sundara and should consider different headphones rather than adding more components to your audio chain.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Alright then, so it's down to which dac/amp combo of the two sounds better to me as both have sufficient power to drive headphones like the Sundaras. Adding a separate amp is diminishing returns in my case. This makes my life easier :)
Much appreciated!
ALMOST perfect, if only it comes with 6.35mm and type C instead....
Not a fan of Sabre sound, this is a good unit though from what I discovered.
It's not David, but hands of David. Saying your name without showing face is same thing as greeting someone and asking about his life while watching somewhere else.
Critic should be constructive, so: your manner of speaking is nice and kind of "fellow" type. That's why seeing the face would do this video even better.
Video itself is good and you good as well, just combine these things 👍🏽
If only it could transmit Bluetooth as well. I have been thinking about replacing my BTA30 with one of these as I've just got into [wired] IEMs but I guess I'd have to keep both as I have Bluetooth earbuds and headphones.
Nice review BTW, thanks.
That would be cool
I thought it does bluetooth? No?
@@abemassri5929 I'm assuming bluetooth in but not out.
Only 3.5mm. That’s insane. Lots of power and a lovely display. What were they thinking. I wouldn’t buy a DAC without balanced headphone connections.
A balanced jack would please me too!
They'll add that on the DX3 Pro+ Max
A balanced headphone connection could possibly be an inexpensive add on for Topping. But I suspect a true balanced amp circuit would add $$ complexity to the design.
great great great device STFU!!
Спасибо
No. 🙅
Crap full of random popping and clicking sound. Tested TWO of these units, upgraded to 1.25 and they both the same. Returned.
I won t buy nothing untill they put Bluetooth 5.3.
You might be waiting for quite some time. 😁
@@PrimeAudioReviews I don t think so.Chinese are workaholics
why do u want to pay more while u get same thing (BTA30 pro) for less.
Because the FiiO doesn't have a headphone amp?
@@PrimeAudioReviews this comparison is what I'm looking for, can't find any reviews between both of them online. Say if I do not need to use it with headphone, bta30 pro will work wonder if it's just between TV optical/bt ldac and output speaker?
Sorry, but the ballanced do actually sound better, the difference is so obvious in every aspect of the sound. If you can't hear it it's sad and this hobby is not for you.
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Bless ya kid...
Bought it a few days ago, top-notch for music in FLAC. I got one question to you people though. It's my first DAC, and I'm curious if I can utilize the sound card with it to get advantage or SBS or equalizer. I game also a bit and got a sound blaster zxr and a z5500 as Dolby for my pc and HIFI headsets besides. (Sennheiser HD 560s,dt990 pro, akg etc. Is it even remotely possible?
Saw on a forum someone asking more or less the same. One said to him yes but didn't say how lol. I'm gathering intel. In USB ofc it works, sound quality even in game is better than the Zxr but the EQ ain't good (using peace for it). Positioning is a bit non-existent. Let s say it compensates a bit because I can hear from beyond, but it's all confusing
Now I've tried to link in optical my sound card to the Pro plus to get the best out of both, and it's making a grzzzzjjjjjjt continuously.. don't know how you experts call that.
I've asked a friend from afar dj he said that this noise would be a routing problem eventually... but could it be a setting somewhere I'm missing to set to just say hey I want this as master and this one as slave. So far it's a bit Chinese to me, but I'm learning...
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