Look for Cortot too. There is a compilation of 5 hours of Cortot playing Chopin works. Each one is timestamped. There is a lot of feeling expressed there.
@@ramirezvelazquez7285 My piano professor in graduate school (here in the US) was a student of Cortot! Funny this is, his first name is Alfred as well. He was a Fulbright award winner in Paris where he won a scholarship to Ecole Normale de Musique to study with Cortot.
@@musiclover148 Not if he had something to play afterwards. At the Chopin Competition, the audience is only supposed to applaud at the end of the competitor's _entire_ performance for that specific round, so he almost certainly still had at least another piece to play. That's what I meant in my comment.
@@justmobilegaming6381 in the older recording of the preludes at the Chopin competition, he does not use his fist but still holds down the c and e with his right hand. In the newer recording of him playing the preludes at the Gilmore Piano Festival, he must have took inspiration from Eric Lu at the Chopin competition because he uses his fist in it!
Biết về bác qua cuốn Âm nhạc lớp 5.... Đất nước mới thống nhất được 5 năm, còn chim trong khói lửa phía Bắc và Tây Nam, nhắc đến Việt Nam khi ấy người ta nghĩ ngay đến Chiến tranh, bom đạn... , đâu ai biết có một Việt Nam rất âm nhạc, rất nghệ thuật, con người Việt Nam ngoài cầm súng còn múa trên những phím đàn... Cho đến khi bản nhạc này vang lên. Tự hào về bác, NSND Đặng Thái Sơn
chi co mot minh ong ay chu dau phai ai cung nhu vay ma noi rang VN am nhac? am nhac o trong con nguoi, khong ke bien gioi. Nuoc nao cung co am nhac het. khong nen vi tu ai dan toc ma noi qua di. Biet bao nhieu nhan tai am nhac nua o VN khong xuat dau lo dien? Co duoc ong nay hanh dien la du'ng nhung noi rang ca nuoc VN co "am nhac" vi ong nay duoc giai nam 1980, thi noi nhu vay la qua phien dien va khong du'ng. Ong ay may man duoc lot duong boi nguoi Nga. Bao nhieu tuoi tre VN dat tay len phim duong cam khong co may man ay nhu ong ta?
Frédéric François Chopin I was surprised when I saw that, I came to the conclusion that holding the notes next to the D allowed him to hit the D a lot harder and more accurately, correct?
To all the Pogorelich fanatics who say that Dang is bland and boring, watch this! At the end of the piece he _literally_ engages in fisting. Even Pogo wouldn't dare this raunchy maneuver!
How amazing to hear the "Lament of the Hero". Closing the Re with the 2 blows of the fist. Amazing. It reminded me of the Anime of the Forest the Piano.
Wow, I immediately felt tremendous power and energy from the sound he produced. Very powerful and beautiful at the same time. This is the first time I heard his play and I am completely blown away.
Although I personally prefer Ivo Pogorelich's performance, in my opinion, this performance is still incredible. I prefer Pogorelich's performance because to me, this performance sounds a bit too... Controlled... I would say, while Pogorelich's performance is fearless and electrifying from start to finish. But this performance is incredible nonetheless.
I would say this performance has nothing to do with what Chopin's music is all about. That's why I think it was a scandal letting this win over Pogorelich.
Ha ha ha. I was thinking the same thing. The way he moves his fingers, he obviously WISHES that it were possible to do vibrato on a piano. If it WERE possible, surely Dang Thai would be the best at it.
Das Ergebnis dieses Wettbewerbes war in mancher Hinsicht 'tragisch' und hatte ungewöhnliche Folgen: Von Dang Thai Son, dem ersten Preisträger, hörte man fortan nichts mehr und den eigentliche Star Ivo Pogorelich, dessen Juryverweigerung bekanntlich zur Abreise Martha Argerichs führte, kann man seit etwa zehn Jahren interpretatorisch nicht mehr ernst nehmen. Es ist so, als ob ein Fluch über diesem Chopin-Wettbewerb lag und immer noch liegt!
So ist Wettbewerb, es gibt immer dabei Konflikte und Diskussionen. Es geht eh nicht darum wer gewinnt oder wer der Star ist, sondern die Emotion was uns die Pianisten liefern. Tragisch ist eben hier ein übertriebenes Wort!
Das Wort ist keineswegs übertrieben. Wenn eine Jury die künstlerische Persönlichkeit eines Teilnehmers nicht erkennt und vor allem nicht einschätzen kann, welches Potential in ihm steckt, im Hinblick auf eine spätere Karriere, muss man die Kompetenz der Juroren in Frage stellen. Ivo hat ohne Zweifel den Wettbewerb gewonnen. Die Jury war anderer Meinung. Aber er hat sie ja eines Besseren belehrt.
I think it has to do with how the sound is supposed to come out. Normally when you play into the piano using strength from your back, the sound flies out the top of the piano, and it sounds vibrant. When you fist it, in addition to being loud, the sound falls to the bottom and clangs there, like an anvil falling onto the stage and making a huge crash! It's a dead, ugly sound that is perfect for this piece.
I see the mastery of the keyboard in Trong Com, but I think certain more subliminal or cultural aspects of Trong Com as expressed in the lyrical words and suggested images were lost. DTS was not a writer. Somebody like Glenn Gould of the 20th century was both a pianist and a writer.
While this prelude is nicknamed the Storm, Cortot called it, 'of blood, earth pleasures and death'. Dang gave no hint of any of these. If you close your eyes, Dang gave a respectable note-perfect account. The video showed, in contrast, a man possessed. He looked like the hapless Charlie Chaplain in Modern Times being thrown about by the machine. Prof Dang is now one of the most thoughtful pianists in the world today, but back in 1980, he was rather clueless about this prelude, written by Chopin at a time when Poland was overrun by Russia. Anger and defiance are not in Dang's repertoire; I guess they still aren't. Yet, this prelude makes an effective conclusion to the cycle of preludes, abrupt and cruel, just as the Revolutionary Etude similarly finished off the Op. 10 Etudes. Chopin's resistance to Tsarist Russia was 99% flower power; this is the 1% of the time when he was caught in a heroic mood. I am surprised that neither Dang nor Eric Lu rose to the occasion when playing this prelude, which is an easy piece of cake for professional pianists.
I tend to agree with you. DTS was a conformist pianist, conforming to the music, and he does put his soul in the performance, but because of musical conformity, i.e. to the notes, he does not express the subtext underneath or render a unique expression that goes under the surface.
@Ch Erry some of the other pieces he played -- even the easier pieces that normal people can play (such as...myself, who hardly had the same amount of training, I can't even think of comparing the amount of time differentiation): he truly expressed it/his soul. For example: the dynamics difference between the left and the right hand, for example, in his presentation, the dynamics and gentility both were quite exquisite. It's a Nocturne, so Chopin-esque. I forgot all the op.details, etc. I like him less as he gets older. He loses something about being himself.
Who cares what Martha thinks? Why are people treating her like a god? Ivo's interpretation was terrible, the amount of mistakes he made was embarrassing. Dang Thai Son was easily superior to everybody else. He plays like a Maestro, the rest play like kids. Ivo was extremely mechanical and did not deserve to win. I would also like to note that Martha is not even that great of a pianist to be completely honest, she lacks technical skill, she has very little expression and rushes passages of Rach which is irritating. She pales in comparison to Horowitz, Rubinstein, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Valentina Lisitsa, Glenn Gould, Brendel, Kissin, Kempff Schiff. Just look at the form of Ivo's hand, it is disgusting, like a robot that has not been greased, while Dang's moves like a serpent. A brilliant pianist, indeed.
Frédéric François Chopin Nobody cares what you think! Martha is a legendary pianist and is respected by her peers. I agree with you that Ivo shouldn't have won because he had some finger slips and his interpretations weren't academically correct. He was a brilliant pianist in his prime. Dang Thai Son is also a very good pianist. These competitions exist for promotional purposes. Music is an art and it's silly to compare performers. Every artist has their own message and not everyone has to like it. But it doesn't mean one is better than the other.
Dang Thai son is technically more skilled then Ivo. That is what I am trying to say. I also agree that music is not about being a human metronome and getting all the notes correct, but a competition is.
After 40 years, still this is the best performance of 28-24.
You must hear maurizio pollini's cover of it first
I prefer yundi li's
i prefer pogorelich sorry
@Ch Erry that what makes his performance special
@Ch Erry well pogo is known for his weird interpretations, and well yeah u r right
This is one of the best performances of this piece.
Look for Cortot too. There is a compilation of 5 hours of Cortot playing Chopin works. Each one is timestamped. There is a lot of feeling expressed there.
@@blonda.bacoviana Yeah, OK, thank you. Cortot is one of the greatest interpreters of Chopin!!
@@ramirezvelazquez7285 My piano professor in graduate school (here in the US) was a student of Cortot! Funny this is, his first name is Alfred as well. He was a Fulbright award winner in Paris where he won a scholarship to Ecole Normale de Musique to study with Cortot.
He did very well with this one because his soul was expressed in it. The young DTS I believe is much better than the accomplished DTS now. My view.
better performances and recordings of this
Best prelude no.24 i have ever heard
wait, have you heard me play this prelude?
@@Cayres18 never. But i want real chopin play 🎹😢😢
He has Chopin's hair and skill 😂
I heard better
The exact interpretation of Eric Lu. Like master like student
Exactly what I thought when I heard this
This explains some things!!
Eric missed several note. The master did not.
@@SL-lk9bw 1:46 yes he did.
Polini
I totally would've been tempted to break protocol and applaud after this amazing performance.
It's the end of the book of preludes. That's when everyone would applaud, anyway.
@@musiclover148 Not if he had something to play afterwards. At the Chopin Competition, the audience is only supposed to applaud at the end of the competitor's _entire_ performance for that specific round, so he almost certainly still had at least another piece to play. That's what I meant in my comment.
@@christianvennemann9008 24 preludes are usually played in the third round. Only the preludes. So this was the end of the performance.
cringe
@@m.moonsie Cool
Dang, that son can play!
TruthSurge surprised to see you here. But indeed he can 😂
@@ayhamshaheed7740 :)
Dang thai son
Lmaooo bruh
Unbelievable
I did not hear anyone playing this prelude like this!
Absolutely unbelievable
When I saw Cho did a similar technique, it instantly reminded me of this performance. Such nostalgic. Thank you for uploading this!
+Jonathan DInh my pleasure. It was Eric Lu who fisted it. He studies with Dang Thai Son, so most likely was taught this directly.
Cho did it too!
@@riwivy cho used 3 fingers right? I don’t remember him using his fist
@@justmobilegaming6381 in the older recording of the preludes at the Chopin competition, he does not use his fist but still holds down the c and e with his right hand. In the newer recording of him playing the preludes at the Gilmore Piano Festival, he must have took inspiration from Eric Lu at the Chopin competition because he uses his fist in it!
I get goosebumps everytime
I have to learn this piece because i want to fist the piano like him
Interpretation going deep and deep into the inner feelings of Chopin's Saul
Couldn't be better.... it's definitely the best
Biết về bác qua cuốn Âm nhạc lớp 5.... Đất nước mới thống nhất được 5 năm, còn chim trong khói lửa phía Bắc và Tây Nam, nhắc đến Việt Nam khi ấy người ta nghĩ ngay đến Chiến tranh, bom đạn... , đâu ai biết có một Việt Nam rất âm nhạc, rất nghệ thuật, con người Việt Nam ngoài cầm súng còn múa trên những phím đàn... Cho đến khi bản nhạc này vang lên. Tự hào về bác, NSND Đặng Thái Sơn
chi co mot minh ong ay chu dau phai ai cung nhu vay ma noi rang VN am nhac? am nhac o trong con nguoi, khong ke bien gioi. Nuoc nao cung co am nhac het. khong nen vi tu ai dan toc ma noi qua di. Biet bao nhieu nhan tai am nhac nua o VN khong xuat dau lo dien? Co duoc ong nay hanh dien la du'ng nhung noi rang ca nuoc VN co "am nhac" vi ong nay duoc giai nam 1980, thi noi nhu vay la qua phien dien va khong du'ng. Ong ay may man duoc lot duong boi nguoi Nga. Bao nhieu tuoi tre VN dat tay len phim duong cam khong co may man ay nhu ong ta?
@@gianghuonggoodwin3557 khát nước thế :))
@@nguyenvinh4599 nguoi VN bay gio an noi mất dạy. Dân tộc đi xuống đấtđen thì con người mới hỗn xược nhu thế trước quaần chúng.
The best I have ever heard. He is so brilliant because he held down the C and E next to the final low D.. so brilliant.
Frédéric François Chopin I was surprised when I saw that, I came to the conclusion that holding the notes next to the D allowed him to hit the D a lot harder and more accurately, correct?
Yes.
Neato, I'll try that- I've started working on this piece...
But in this piece the second last note is E, how did he hold down the C key? just hold it and don't make sound?? (I'm work on this piece too.
@@LeeMoonTree you press it down gently before its really easy.
this is my favourite prelude 💚🎶
To all the Pogorelich fanatics who say that Dang is bland and boring, watch this! At the end of the piece he _literally_ engages in fisting. Even Pogo wouldn't dare this raunchy maneuver!
@@NN-rn1oz pogo better sorry
@@larrydoze7430 Certainly.
@@larrydoze7430 lol
How amazing to hear the "Lament of the Hero". Closing the Re with the 2 blows of the fist. Amazing.
It reminded me of the Anime of the Forest the Piano.
That scene was, in fact, a reference to this performance. Dang Thai Son is well liked in Japan, and often has recitals there.
Wow, I immediately felt tremendous power and energy from the sound he produced. Very powerful and beautiful at the same time. This is the first time I heard his play and I am completely blown away.
Amazing pianist for ever, he teaches Bruce Xiaoyu Liu.👏👏👏👏👏👏
i came from Piano no Mori (anime) episode 12 for fist smashing :)
same
I thought only kai did it
@@endimos6603 apparently this method of playing the final notes of this piece has become somewhat of a tradition. See Eric Lu's in 2015.
apparently Piano no Mori got that from Dang Thai Son
Wow totally forgot that happened on the anime!
Rewatching this masterpiece.
How I cannot be hypnotized by the dance of his experts hands on the keys
So much romanticism in his souls
WOW
Iam listening over and over!
Best of the best
The best I've ever heard (just now)
dang son
Dang son, you’re Thai?
@@QS1597 hes vietnamese
@@uniuni9629 it was a joke because his name is Dang _Thai_ Son
I discovered him through this performance, amazing pianist
Chopin would be proud. Masterful.
Super outstanding pianist for ever🤲👍🙏💯
すげ〰️〰️😭❤️
Amazing !
凄すぎる❗ゾクゾクしました。有り難うございます。🎶👌✌️
Cho also did something similar in the ending of his Prelude
Epoustouflant ! Dommage que la prise de son ne soit pas à la hauteur !
1:32 WOW. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@NotMozart1685 I can play, but I'm definitely not at this pianist's level. 🤣🤣 I'm somewhat advanced, but I'm not a professional.
@Gavin Yerg Do u know him lmao?
this man took a fist to the piano lmao
I wonder where he got the idea from to use his fist. Emotionally it makes sense.
Look at his fingers...absolutely satisfying
Although I personally prefer Ivo Pogorelich's performance, in my opinion, this performance is still incredible. I prefer Pogorelich's performance because to me, this performance sounds a bit too... Controlled... I would say, while Pogorelich's performance is fearless and electrifying from start to finish. But this performance is incredible nonetheless.
I would say this performance has nothing to do with what Chopin's music is all about. That's why I think it was a scandal letting this win over Pogorelich.
1980-2021 một chặng đường
So this is where Seong-jin Cho got the style at the end...
playing vibrato on a piano!!
Obiously, you have no idea how a piano works if you think you can make a vibrato by moving you finger-hand-arm over the key
kzelmer lol
@@QS1597 explain yourself
Ha ha ha. I was thinking the same thing. The way he moves his fingers, he obviously WISHES that it were possible to do vibrato on a piano. If it WERE possible, surely Dang Thai would be the best at it.
@@kzelmer nah it works I’ve tried it
당..당타이손이 젊다...ㅋㅋㅋ
한국인 반갑.....
ㅋㅋㅋ
Brawo !!!
Das Ergebnis dieses Wettbewerbes war in mancher Hinsicht 'tragisch' und hatte ungewöhnliche Folgen: Von Dang Thai Son, dem ersten Preisträger, hörte man fortan nichts mehr und den eigentliche Star Ivo Pogorelich, dessen Juryverweigerung bekanntlich zur Abreise Martha Argerichs führte, kann man seit etwa zehn Jahren interpretatorisch nicht mehr ernst nehmen. Es ist so, als ob ein Fluch über diesem Chopin-Wettbewerb lag und immer noch liegt!
So ist Wettbewerb, es gibt immer dabei Konflikte und Diskussionen. Es geht eh nicht darum wer gewinnt oder wer der Star ist, sondern die Emotion was uns die Pianisten liefern.
Tragisch ist eben hier ein übertriebenes Wort!
Das Wort ist keineswegs übertrieben. Wenn eine Jury die künstlerische Persönlichkeit eines Teilnehmers nicht erkennt und vor allem nicht einschätzen kann, welches Potential in ihm steckt, im Hinblick auf eine spätere Karriere, muss man die Kompetenz der Juroren in Frage stellen. Ivo hat ohne Zweifel den Wettbewerb gewonnen. Die Jury war anderer Meinung. Aber er hat sie ja eines Besseren belehrt.
ショパンコンクールは毎回この様なものです。政治的や旧ソ連のある教授に有利だったり。でも、ivoは結構ミスタッチ目立ってましたよね。現在のivoの演奏聴いたことありますか？とても残念なプレイで悲しかったです。
from hanoi, 1/2023
Lovely performance
omg....long fingers big hands
😭😭😭🍷🍷🍷❤❤❤👏👏👏
damn that fotississimo
1:30
Now I know where forest of piano got the fist idea!
the Master really deserves to win the competition, although Pogorelich has much art and i feel suffering. Pogorelich has more mistakes than the Master
젊엇을땐 잘생걌네
Is he trying to vibrate?
I think so
Trying to take away some tension, actually.
WTF? (----> in this case meaning, Why The Fist?)
+pianopera Lol
fff
Ffffffffffffffff
fff
I think it has to do with how the sound is supposed to come out. Normally when you play into the piano using strength from your back, the sound flies out the top of the piano, and it sounds vibrant. When you fist it, in addition to being loud, the sound falls to the bottom and clangs there, like an anvil falling onto the stage and making a huge crash! It's a dead, ugly sound that is perfect for this piece.
2:04
What the hell is this keyboard sorcery???
3도 스케일 개오지네
where did you get videos of dang thai son
+Jason from my collection. A lot from this competition is online already
Trong Com might have been performed in his native Vietnam.
これはショパンではないよね。衝撃だったと思う。これぐらい、突き抜けてないとアジア人の優勝はできなかったと思う。
Amazing ====>33 years later, [2013] : Dang Thai Sơn/ Trống cơm by Dang Huu Phuc
ruclips.net/video/b_X6jBDQ-7Q/видео.html
I see the mastery of the keyboard in Trong Com, but I think certain more subliminal or cultural aspects of Trong Com as expressed in the lyrical words and suggested images were lost. DTS was not a writer. Somebody like Glenn Gould of the 20th century was both a pianist and a writer.
vibrato
Vietnam's
エリックルーもこの指ビブラート奏法と！最後のDをグーでいっしたな、、、たしか師弟関係だったはず。教えたのかな
에릭 루가 스승의 영향을 많이받았네
보따 김원식 닮음
This is good playing but the interpretation does not stand out to me
👏👏👏
넋을잃네요
He plays very very good, but Pogorelić plays it better;)
My thoughts too. Not a big difference but Pogorelich is unrelentless never losing the pulse whereas Dang loses it at a few places.
No he doesn't
bla bla bla :) This is not a horse race where one wins over the other :) Cheers :)
bla bla bla bla this guy WON the competition -- it's over, move on. sleep well
@@m.moonsie But still… Pogorelich is better, he plays in unique way. Dang plays soo boring
While this prelude is nicknamed the Storm, Cortot called it, 'of blood, earth pleasures and death'. Dang gave no hint of any of these. If you close your eyes, Dang gave a respectable note-perfect account. The video showed, in contrast, a man possessed. He looked like the hapless Charlie Chaplain in Modern Times being thrown about by the machine. Prof Dang is now one of the most thoughtful pianists in the world today, but back in 1980, he was rather clueless about this prelude, written by Chopin at a time when Poland was overrun by Russia. Anger and defiance are not in Dang's repertoire; I guess they still aren't. Yet, this prelude makes an effective conclusion to the cycle of preludes, abrupt and cruel, just as the Revolutionary Etude similarly finished off the Op. 10 Etudes. Chopin's resistance to Tsarist Russia was 99% flower power; this is the 1% of the time when he was caught in a heroic mood. I am surprised that neither Dang nor Eric Lu rose to the occasion when playing this prelude, which is an easy piece of cake for professional pianists.
Shut up ya bum
I tend to agree with you. DTS was a conformist pianist, conforming to the music, and he does put his soul in the performance, but because of musical conformity, i.e. to the notes, he does not express the subtext underneath or render a unique expression that goes under the surface.
@Ch Erry some of the other pieces he played -- even the easier pieces that normal people can play (such as...myself, who hardly had the same amount of training, I can't even think of comparing the amount of time differentiation): he truly expressed it/his soul. For example: the dynamics difference between the left and the right hand, for example, in his presentation, the dynamics and gentility both were quite exquisite. It's a Nocturne, so Chopin-esque. I forgot all the op.details, etc. I like him less as he gets older. He loses something about being himself.
errr, how about the music?
Brilliant pianist who won deservedly in 1980. Too bad the competition was overshadowed by the Pogorelich incident.
Ivo should have won! ;-)
+Danny B. Obviously Martha thought so. But she did send Deng a congratulation note when Deng won.
Who cares what Martha thinks? Why are people treating her like a god? Ivo's interpretation was terrible, the amount of mistakes he made was embarrassing. Dang Thai Son was easily superior to everybody else. He plays like a Maestro, the rest play like kids. Ivo was extremely mechanical and did not deserve to win. I would also like to note that Martha is not even that great of a pianist to be completely honest, she lacks technical skill, she has very little expression and rushes passages of Rach which is irritating. She pales in comparison to Horowitz, Rubinstein, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Valentina Lisitsa, Glenn Gould, Brendel, Kissin, Kempff Schiff. Just look at the form of Ivo's hand, it is disgusting, like a robot that has not been greased, while Dang's moves like a serpent. A brilliant pianist, indeed.
Frédéric François Chopin Nobody cares what you think! Martha is a legendary pianist and is respected by her peers. I agree with you that Ivo shouldn't have won because he had some finger slips and his interpretations weren't academically correct. He was a brilliant pianist in his prime. Dang Thai Son is also a very good pianist. These competitions exist for promotional purposes. Music is an art and it's silly to compare performers. Every artist has their own message and not everyone has to like it. But it doesn't mean one is better than the other.
Dang Thai son is technically more skilled then Ivo. That is what I am trying to say. I also agree that music is not about being a human metronome and getting all the notes correct, but a competition is.
Ivo's interpretation is just not better than this, it is completely wrong to say that it is. This was perfect, literally.
Pogorelich
if Dang is 100 , pogorelick 0,1
우리 조성진 피아니스트 연주& 주먹에 비교도 안될만큼 허접하네
주먹 창시자가 저분인데 귀좀 파고 음악 들어라 ;;
Amazing !