It's not that many of them do not want you to know, many of them cannot grasp the concept of permanent codes. They see a code they think FAIL!! But there was mandatory training on this subject so they all should technically know about this.
Great video and got me in the right direction. My Launch, you can choose exactly the live datastream to show so I am not clicking back and forth as you did. I chose just "how many miles since cleared dtcs", "engine temp" and "warm up cycles." My car was cold when I started around 65f, started the car and watched the temp go up and in the same screen showing the warm up cycles. It got to 158f and the warm up cycle went to the next number which is 3 (I had 2). I already have the miles (458), but now have 12 more warm up cycles to go. At least I don't have to spend a lot of gas money driving it and just need to let it get cold (I'll try under 135f as you stated) and do another cycle. Thanks again.
I live near your shop! I have a permanent dtc code that failed my BMW P0461 Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit Range Performance. Cleared out codes 200 miles ago. Stressing hard about it. I should come to you lol
Your the man bro!! I have a permanent code on my 2010 prius for hybrid battery.. but no check engine light. I'm wishing this will help. So far I'm on only my 4th warm up cycle..
Fyi: Car/truck needs to have 15 warmup cycles and 200 miles driven, regardless if the permanent dtc clears or no. The smog machine will pass it if 15/200 was performed. As long as you don’t have the actual code current.
I'm reading some people say it has to be 200mi/15cycles since the last trouble code clear. Is that accurate? Or is it 200mi since the last smog test (is the computer just comparing the mileage before/after?)
I have a 2011 chevy Siverado 1500 4.8l. I have driven a little over 200 miles and have about 16 warm ups. I have a permanent code P0442 $7e8 evap code (small leak). I purchased the truck a few weeks ago with no check engine light on so I am not sure if the problem got fixed and the code is stuck permanently I have never seen a check engine light on since purchasing the truck a few weeks ago. But I did the require drive cycle you said to do I am concerned if I am going to be able to pass smog test. Wondering your thoughts an opinnon is? I am Located in California. Thank you
@@ckmediaproduction I am having the same exact problem with my 2011 2500HD 6.0l. If the problem has been fixed, how long does it take the permanent code to go away?
@@sickpuppy5150 yea bro i ended up going and i had the 15 warm ups and 200 miles and still no check engine light but a permanent code still. lucky i live right up the street from this guy so it worked out. passed no problem
Could you put a variable resistor instead of the ect sensor and just give the ecu "virtual" temperatures instead of waiting for the engine and your fans to alter the temp?
bar recommends 200 miles, is it necessary? once the computer recognizes the repair, cant you just read off the scanner once the permanent code disappears?
@@alexquezada510 - It's OK if it still shows in CA. The SMOG computer will ignore the code if you got the 200/15 complete. So just go get your test. If the Inspector sees the Permanent code and refuses to test it, file a complaint on them with the BAR. They need to be educated.
yes make sure you loss in communication is fixed and drive 200 miles perform 15 drive cycles some of those Nissan's i have seen PDTC goes off by itself after 5-7 warmup cycles
@@ckmediaproduction yes that's exactly what I've done and it worked thank you so much..I thought I was screwed. It cleared after I drove over 200 miles
So I called around to shops they told me it would fail with permanent DTC codes but if you have 15 warm-ups and 200 miles the computer will pass it because the computer does everything the smog Tech guy doesn't have anything to do with it
You could have used that scan tool to force the evap monitor to run in a few minutes. Then road test. All manufacturers have different criteria for what constitutes a drive cycle. They fail your smog if the NGC loses com with the BCM? Oof. Chryslers must generate a lot of revenue, alot of them I see, the dash is lit up like a Christmas tree.
@@chicagoalmighty45th95 Go to scan tool 101. It's not just a read codes/ clear codes affair. Mode $04 ,Mode $05 and Mode $06 can tell you all you need to know about incomplete monitors, and pending DTC'S, if you know, you know.
I have a Ford Fusion 2010 hybrid and I have the P1299 I already changed the sensor and the harness even after clear the codes remove the battery the code is still there
Would like to buy a car had dtc temporarily deleted? And then after 1 or 2 days of purchase, the change engine light comes on and then…. You get p0420…. Catalytic $$$
It's really crazy the companies are coming up with. It also makes you not to find out your mechanic fix the problem or not, till those cycles completed😏
I’ve changed the sensor and driven way over 200miles and pdtc is stil showing up. 2011 bmw 535i code is p139d. No cel. Just pdtc. Freaking headache. What do you recommend
to properly erase the code, you have to do your manufactures suggest drive pattern to delete P-DTC codes. The drive patterns are different than drive monitors
I have pdtc po171 and po174 come up with no check engine light with complete drive cycle for one week some buddy say to me lazy fuel pump pressure 2005 1500 4.3l Silverado what you think buddy is gona be/my fuel pressure is with key off 53psi with key on 58psi no vacuum leak gasket is brand new uper lover Maf / Map/ spider injector assembly/02 sensors have no idea what to do thanks buddy.ef you have any idea let me know thanks buddy 👍
Best video ever! Smog check people don’t want you to know this information! Just to get paid !
It's not that many of them do not want you to know, many of them cannot grasp the concept of permanent codes. They see a code they think FAIL!! But there was mandatory training on this subject so they all should technically know about this.
Great video and got me in the right direction. My Launch, you can choose exactly the live datastream to show so I am not clicking back and forth as you did. I chose just "how many miles since cleared dtcs", "engine temp" and "warm up cycles." My car was cold when I started around 65f, started the car and watched the temp go up and in the same screen showing the warm up cycles. It got to 158f and the warm up cycle went to the next number which is 3 (I had 2). I already have the miles (458), but now have 12 more warm up cycles to go. At least I don't have to spend a lot of gas money driving it and just need to let it get cold (I'll try under 135f as you stated) and do another cycle. Thanks again.
Did it work?
@@alexquezada510 Yes and no. I did all the cycles and the permanent code was still there, but decided to have it smogged and it did pass.
@@MPDano okay I’ll give it a try see what happens thank you
Yes it did work that's why it pass the smog you completed the 15 required warm up cycles so the permanent code was ignored
I live near your shop! I have a permanent dtc code that failed my BMW P0461 Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit Range Performance. Cleared out codes 200 miles ago. Stressing hard about it. I should come to you lol
Ended up taking my truck their they are very professional. My truck passed
Thank you VERY MUCH for this information that cannot be found anywhere else, you sir, are the wizard!!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽👌👌
Glad to help
for my 2017 hyundai elantra ... had to go cold @ 118F and then at 160F it would count as warm cycle :) on my 6th
Good Info. Wish we could have a data base of all cars on what temps are needed.
Your the man bro!! I have a permanent code on my 2010 prius for hybrid battery.. but no check engine light. I'm wishing this will help. So far I'm on only my 4th warm up cycle..
it will just complete those 200 miles and 15 warmup cycles
it work?
Worked?
Joginder Bhathal U are the man great video
What I think is funny is lawmakers want to lower emissions but we have to drive around to fix these issues lol.
You may have figured out that lawmakers are idiots.
You are a genius & knowledgeable. In this case, do you charge customer by hour for going these extra steps or fixed fee? Great documentation skills 💯
Great video. This will help a lot
This stuff is great. Was hoping if its the same procedure for the older car. Specifically for 2005.
Permanent codes are only for 2010 and newer
Fyi: Car/truck needs to have 15 warmup cycles and 200 miles driven, regardless if the permanent dtc clears or no. The smog machine will pass it if 15/200 was performed. As long as you don’t have the actual code current.
Hey sir , I have 242 Warm UPS? Is hyundai accent 2013.. What is that?
I'm reading some people say it has to be 200mi/15cycles since the last trouble code clear. Is that accurate? Or is it 200mi since the last smog test (is the computer just comparing the mileage before/after?)
@@denmanfite3156 - It's 200/15 since the last code clear (or battery disconnect)
I have a 2011 chevy Siverado 1500 4.8l. I have driven a little over 200 miles and have about 16 warm ups. I have a permanent code P0442 $7e8 evap code (small leak). I purchased the truck a few weeks ago with no check engine light on so I am not sure if the problem got fixed and the code is stuck permanently I have never seen a check engine light on since purchasing the truck a few weeks ago. But I did the require drive cycle you said to do I am concerned if I am going to be able to pass smog test. Wondering your thoughts an opinnon is? I am Located in California.
Thank you
if you have 15 warmups and 200 miles smog check will pass just make sure you have 200 miles with that 15 warmups
I am having the same exact problem with my 2011 2500HD 6.0l
@@ckmediaproduction I am having the same exact problem with my 2011 2500HD 6.0l. If the problem has been fixed, how long does it take the permanent code to go away?
@@sickpuppy5150 yea bro i ended up going and i had the 15 warm ups and 200 miles and still no check engine light but a permanent code still. lucky i live right up the street from this guy so it worked out. passed no problem
@@turbojoe195 Cool. Now I just gotta drive the rest of the 200 and the rest of the warm ups and I should be good
Thank You! Simply, THANK YOU!
Glad it helped!
What if after 1k miles pdtc doesn't reset what do I do?
@@Bernielcc what did you end up doing I’ve changed the sensor and driven way over 200miles and pdtc is stil showing up
@@alexquezada510 state of CA says after 200 miles the smog ois will ignore the permanent code which is false
Could you put a variable resistor instead of the ect sensor and just give the ecu "virtual" temperatures instead of waiting for the engine and your fans to alter the temp?
you will need both IAT AND ECT with in 20 deg for cycle to work
bar recommends 200 miles, is it necessary? once the computer recognizes the repair, cant you just read off the scanner once the permanent code disappears?
Yup.. but this is for the codes that domt go away after 200 miles and 15 warm ups
I have a Ford mustang 2014 I finished the 15 cicle and a 16 cicle but still shows the permanent code what should I do? I need to pass asap.
what did you end up doing I’ve changed the sensor and driven way over 200miles and pdtc is stil showing up
@@alexquezada510 - It's OK if it still shows in CA. The SMOG computer will ignore the code if you got the 200/15 complete. So just go get your test. If the Inspector sees the Permanent code and refuses to test it, file a complaint on them with the BAR. They need to be educated.
how can I do with check engine light on after 15 cycles and 200 mils ready? need delete codes reset and clear all?
You need to clear code 1st and than drive make sure problem is fixed .if problem still exists you will have check engine light trigger again
Will this work if the engine light is still on the dashboard
no you need to fix check engine light
I have a 2014 nissan sentra that can't pass smog fuel to permanent code u0101 loss communication with tcm. Is this the same process?
yes make sure you loss in communication is fixed and drive 200 miles perform 15 drive cycles some of those Nissan's i have seen PDTC goes off by itself after 5-7 warmup cycles
@@ckmediaproduction yes that's exactly what I've done and it worked thank you so much..I thought I was screwed. It cleared after I drove over 200 miles
do a throttle body cleaning and air and fuel relearn and that should take care of the light and just drive 200 miles and 15 warm ups
So I called around to shops they told me it would fail with permanent DTC codes but if you have 15 warm-ups and 200 miles the computer will pass it because the computer does everything the smog Tech guy doesn't have anything to do with it
Is this correct did you figure it out? what did you end up doing I’ve changed the sensor and driven way over 200miles and pdtc is stil showing up
if the permanent codes are permanent ,how do you clear the DTC's so you can have warm-ups recorded?
Warms ups are still counted even with the Permanent code there. Point is not to try and clear them because you can't with a scanner.
Can i pass with permanent code p0302 misfire in cylinder 2 ? Thank you
yes if you have 15 warm ups and 200 miles
You could have used that scan tool to force the evap monitor to run in a few minutes. Then road test. All manufacturers have different criteria for what constitutes a drive cycle. They fail your smog if the NGC loses com with the BCM? Oof. Chryslers must generate a lot of revenue, alot of them I see, the dash is lit up like a Christmas tree.
They fail due to a PDTC... dont matter what its for
@@chicagoalmighty45th95 Go to scan tool 101. It's not just a read codes/ clear codes affair. Mode $04 ,Mode $05 and Mode $06 can tell you all you need to know about incomplete monitors, and pending DTC'S, if you know, you know.
I have a Ford Fusion 2010 hybrid and I have the P1299 I already changed the sensor and the harness even after clear the codes remove the battery the code is still there
that's permanent dtc will not go away perform 15 warm up and 200 miles for smog check
what did you end up doing I’ve changed the sensor and driven way over 200miles and pdtc is stil showing up
I think its abuse to make you drive 200 miles just for a dam repair this has to stop this needs to change
Would like to buy a car had dtc temporarily deleted? And then after 1 or 2 days of purchase, the change engine light comes on and then…. You get p0420…. Catalytic $$$
thats ca
It's really crazy the companies are coming up with. It also makes you not to find out your mechanic fix the problem or not, till those cycles completed😏
Have questions and need help w my pdtc , I just emailed you .
Jorge send you info check your email
I’ve changed the sensor and driven way over 200miles and pdtc is stil showing up. 2011 bmw 535i code is p139d. No cel. Just pdtc. Freaking headache. What do you recommend
with enough cold starts it will pass smog
@@chadjones5415 yeah I’m on that right now will take me about a week or two but definitely going to get it done
to properly erase the code, you have to do your manufactures suggest drive pattern to delete P-DTC codes. The drive patterns are different than drive monitors
My permanent dtc keeps the check engine light on. Code (p1449)
what year make and model ??
I have pdtc po171 and po174 come up with no check engine light with complete drive cycle for one week some buddy say to me lazy fuel pump pressure 2005 1500 4.3l Silverado what you think buddy is gona be/my fuel pressure is with key off 53psi with key on 58psi no vacuum leak gasket is brand new uper lover Maf / Map/ spider injector assembly/02 sensors have no idea what to do thanks buddy.ef you have any idea let me know thanks buddy 👍