I’m not a controller but imagine how frustrating this would be if you’re the ATC and you can’t do much to help this kid. They don’t want him to get hurt.
@@VASAviation They, possibly, were more aware of the seriousness and, possible consequences of the missing gear. Blissful ignorance on the students part.
Dylan hehe hello same name person. Anyways, sometimes controllers like this- especially at TRACONs- have supervisors and are really helpful in situations like these.
@@scottycatman I don't know if there are any U2 left. I think they were replaced by SR71's they are a lot faster. If anything, someone should be working on a SR71 variant as a drone with bigger faster engines. Something that can fly in international airspace.
I think the student thought that the airplane could be compromised and situation deteriorating. He probably made the best choice for the info that everyone had. He could have had more damage like an oil or fuel leak etc. He felt the airplane acting weird and gut feeling decided to land. Bravo kid, this will prepare him for a lifetime of flight.
The fuel is in the wings. Since this was a high wing plane I doubt any possibility for a fuel leak. As for oil leaks, the oil is in the engine in the front of the plane. Also a very highly unlikely scenario.
All that time he "didn't know what to do".....then suddenly he takes the option to land as if he knew how to handle it. It's most likely he lost his cool and dreamed the plane was acting differently than just being without that "wheel thingy". He certainly took a LONG time to shut down the engine! That should have been done immediately after ground contact. How the hell do you tear a wheel off a C172 and end up airborne, anyway???
_Landing gear suddenly goes AWOL_ , _Gets bored waiting for help to arrive_ , _Searches youtube for landing without a wheel_ , _Finds Maggies video on VASAviation_ , "Ahh so that's how its done, I got this!"
@@trd4d well, he actually said that aircraft functions more and more abnormally as well, so he might have been concerned about his ability to control aircraft in short future.
@@StortWeldingCoLLC You say that, but you're only seeing half the story. The wheel didn't fall off on its own. He hit an airfield sign trying to land in a cross wind on his first solo. Does a good instructor typically send up a student to do their first solo in a 15kt crosswind? What's worse is the wind was do to outflow from an isolated storm cloud to the west. One that was clearly dropping rain. If the instructor would have waited 30 minutes to send him up it would have been perfect conditions.
*Student pilot today. Professional pilot tomorrow!* He said he wanted to attempt it and he did it. Kudos to him and everyone who tried to help out 👍👍 *17-Year-Old Student Pilot Maggie lands her plane without a wheel* --> ruclips.net/video/B229-KLudTo/видео.html
In our country I think they will blame the student for breaking the airplane. Like it was when our student performed a landing in a field with an engine failure and they said it was his fault like he messed up something with fuel mixture. And another student landed on a runway with gears up they said he forgot to extend it
This is the first time I am seeing that the ATC does not know how to handle an emergency situation. They did not even know how long the aircraft could fly with 10 gallons of fuel, by the time they got hold of the Flight Instructor, it was probably too late. Good for him that he decided to land, otherwise he could have run out of fuel with a disastrous outcome.
It REALLY bothers me how, because he’s a student solo, they’re assuming he cannot relay any information reliably. He sounds as if he is calm, cool, and working the problem. In my mind he’s the source of the only reliable information they have & ought to be utilized as one. He’s a student solo, but other than the fire fighters he sounds more calm than anyone. Other than whatever occurred to lose the left MLG… this young man did an OUTSTANDING job landing that aircraft safely. He didn’t wait for whatever help ‘might’ be on the way, he used his wits & the aircraft to effect one hell of an emergency landing.
My thought was could he not hear her calling his flight school wrong. Someone should have caught that even before a female said I don't think that's one of ours
As a current ATP student we get 41 hours before we solo and 4 more before the cross country so like it’s possible for us to have more hours then a private pilot
I thought they only questioned him on the fuel qty he was reporting, which I think is reasonable. Fuel gauges in old trainer aircraft as notoriously unreliable (and are only required to indicate empty correctly). I would also be pretty surprised/ skeptical if he had been sent up with 10 gallons of fuel on a student solo, most training flights are conducted with full tanks because the checklist rotate, climb, and best glide speeds are based on max gross weight. That said, totally agree that tower and ground didn't seem to be much of a resource here. If I were in this situation I would hope they could at least act as a calming voice to help me think through my plan. Instead they added anxiety and told him they didn't know what to do without getting his instructor on the line. Glad he decided to put it down.
GRD: "... he's a student solo so we aren't able to get that much information out of him... " - Probably not when you don't even ask him question like what his instructors phone number is or how much flightime 10 gallons in a Cessna will give you?!
Right? They didn’t even ask him his school or instructor name and number or where to find him.... Not like he’s busy up there doing much while flying patterns in a Cessna.
Yeah, let's have this STUDENT pilot pull out his cell phone to get a phone number, while he's maneuvering a complex flying machine, several thousand feet above the earth, dealing with the stress of an emergency situation, trying to keep airspeed, attitude, and altitude in a reasonable range, all while possibly only having flown the aircraft a dozen times. Seems reasonable.
@@RogerAlan "Did as well as any low hour student could be expected to"? Do you expect low hour students to snap the gear off of their planes? I hope you are not a flight instructor, dummy.
That was pretty much a textbook landing........really good. The kid kept his calm all the way....that's key to any emergency. While he didn't have many hours, any student who has just soloed is a pretty good pilot. He can handle the plane well, he just doesn't have the experience needed to make decisions, as noted in the video. I hope this guy keeps flying, he is on his way to being one of the best.
This comment needs more thumb ups! Literally most important with any air emergency is keeping calm. Even when he wasn't sure on wtf to do he was calm and collected. IMHO most important quality for a pilot. Well done.
@@Fiskanatorz The more ice you have in your veins, the better your chances. Calm, cold and calculating........that'll give you the best chance of a positive outcome.
This guy did all right. He lofted the flare a bit, but considering his situation, I think it was a brilliant landing. He kept the left wing, fuselage, and horizontal stabilizer up until they were in the grass. He was even considerate enough to clear the runway! Really nice job! (DAMN Cessna did a great job designing the Skyhawk!)
Can't see it super clean in the video, but it almost looks like he was using his rudder to keep it as straight as he could since the plane was trying to go the other direction because of the landing gear. Honestly, all things considered, student solo, damaged plane, wind conditions, he did a fantastic job. Almost instructional tape worthy.
I am shocked by ATC's behavior here. Instead of putting confidence into the pilot they just tread him like he is clueless. Hats up to the student pilot by keeping calm and doing what was right to do.
I was at the EAA convention back in the '80s, and just happened to take a break to watch the planes land. A low wing tricycle gear plane touched down in front of me, and lost its right gear. The pilot kept the right wing up on the runway, then when he was starting to lose it, he turned off the runway to the right into the grass in a tightening spiral. He did about 270 degrees of turn, slowing the plane, and using the energy to keep the wing up. Finally, he hit the breaks and the plane came to a stop, and the wing came down gently in the grass without any forward motion. It was a beautiful thing to see, and I heard later they repaired it and took off the next day.
Common sense kicked in before panic. This kid realized pretty quickly (for a student, at least) that landing was obviously his best option. Even in chaos mode, his phraseology was better than a lot of commercial pilots I've heard on this channel. I hope he keeps flying.
@@soccerguy2433 no.. you must keep a level head in these circumstances. If he started freaking out, it could have been much worse for him. Pretty sure he knew he was in trouble, deciding to put her down was a good decision.
soccerguy2433 in flight school they teach you all the things that could go wrong and what to do. This kid was just doing what his instructor would have taught him, stay calm and fly the plane.
@@curtisridge2506 Agreed - he's also in a small cessna without a ton of fuel weight. He's done enough landings if he's soloing - I would have been more worried about doing 'extra' damage to the plane handling the landing wrong than hurting myself. Dude was super calm - great job!
Pilot: Tower, the plane’s doing a lot of weird things… Tower: oh, well just keep flying around… Good job pilot for taking control of your situation. And pretty nice landing too.
For all those wondering this plane burns about 10 gallons an hour, so he had at best an hour of fuel left. More likely 30-45 minutes to avoid any risk of low fuel/plus higher fuel burn due to his situation
I watched it all happen right in front of my place. We had a nasty little storm cell come in while he was doing touch and gos. The winds came up quick and almost 90 degrees from the left on rwy 21. He tried to land around the B12 intersection, turned into the wind a litte too much and got off the left edge of the rwy. He was about three feet off the ground and decided to go around. Smart decision, but before he could climb out of it his left main cought the B11 taxi sign. The sign exploded, sounded like a shotgun. His wheel assembly went bouncing down three more intersections. That guy did a helluva good job keeping it in the air and putting it down safe.
There's probably one main flight school at that field (ATP, it sounds like), so they just assumed he came from them. Only after they weren't getting a hold of anyone there, they thought: Well, maybe he's with a school from elsewhere and his instructor is standing around somewhere. (Which happend to be the case. After they found out his name, the very next thing was a call to OPS to pick him up at the gate.)
I thought this was a little weird. At KLGB where I did my training, the tower controllers generally knew what call signs belonged to what flight school, to the point of jokingly giving instructions 'give way to company traffic on taxiway X' when you were to wait for another plane from your school or club. Some places like Embry Riddle make it obvious with tail numbers that end in 'ER'. You never know - the controller working tower may be new.
@tafan321 That's what I thought. All flight schools I know of monitor the frequency, and in the case of the first couple of solos, the instructor will be listening on a handheld transceiver.
Impressive skills by the student to recognize that his plane was acting strange and to just go for the landing and avoid further risk. Also nailed the landing!
I respect the student’s decision to land before the instructor even got on frequency. It’s an example of confidence in your own decision-making process which is not something everyone is comfortable with.
That was a pilot who proved himself worthy of the title. He remembered the fundamentals of aviate, navigate, communicate and brought it down with the best of his skill. Bravo Zulu and I'd be proud to be his passenger.
When he said weird things were happening with the plane I was hoping he would just land it. No sense making a bad situation worse by trying to keep it in the air and potentially having another problem come up. Great job by him landing
Especially since ATC disregarded his "10 gallons" statement so easily as wrong information of a confused pilot. What if he was right? Maybe he burned to much during his training, maybe he had a leak, maybe he didn't calculate correctly... I understand ATC's concern for the man and wanting to get a pro on the line, but as we say on this channel time and time again: Ain't nobody in charge of that plane but the captain.
QemeH I think for me, since she was talking to the fire truck & ops, the “disregard” of the amount of fuel on board might have been more to do with preparing the fire fighters & ground personal for a bigger fire if this became a worse case scenario. I could be wrong, but it’s just a thought.
@@claystorm Same. That was the impression I got, too. 10 Gallons of Avgas burns away much faster than 20 or 30 gallons, and that aircraft can hold at least 50.
I think he made the right call. You fly the plane first and foremost and then you were serious the situation. If it starts getting Squirrley then you have a whole new set of problems to deal with. By him doing what he did and landing it he probably saved the plane, his own life, and possibly other peoples lives because if he had gone down anywhere in that region, he could’ve had a house, I’ll store, even on the highway. I don’t live too far away from Scottsdale regional airport and I know that area very well. That has the potential for some very disastrous results if he hadn’t done what he did.
"He says 10 gallons, we think he has more" This, right here, is grounds for a sacking. Even if someone is a student, if they report an amount of fuel, *never* assume they have *more.* You can assume less, margin of error etc, but never assume more.
Good on the PiC for making the call to land. A good pilot knows when to take matters into their own hands, and he knew the right time to do so. As a result, he is safe, the plane looks reparable and nobody on the ground was hurt. Amazing outcome!
Wow, brings back memories of my first solo in 1991, also in a C-172. Almost immediately after takeoff I lost my airspeed indicator. When you are taught to fly by the numbers that's pretty disconcerting. i made it around the pattern and made a normal landing but it was pretty darn scary that early in one's flying career with just 11 hours under your belt. It turns out the pitot tube had hit a bug which plugged it causing it to be plugged.
I fly out of KSDL (Scottsdale) and I was blown away that they did not have direct phone numbers available to every flight school and FBO on the field. There is no reason at all for them to have to dial a 1-800 number like that. Also, any CFI could have assisted - they didn't necessarily need to track down HIS instructor. There are probably 20 CFI's at Scottsdale at any given time. With this, all said.. wow the student did an amazing job of keeping his head and landing perfectly given the conditions.
I learned to fly under an instructor by the name of Jean at Riverside Airport in Tulsa. Whenever I would go out for a solo, including my first solo, she would be there in her vehicle with her portable radio set to tower - and had instructed me to switch to her "private" channel (just an unused standard channel - I won't mention the freq here, but I still remember it!) if anything went wrong and I needed to talk to her. I never had to do that... but after watching this and looking back, I must say my instructor rocked. I had no idea how lucky I was... On my first solo I remember setting my secondary radio to her freq just in case, and using the main for both ground and then tower (whereas usually I would have one set to tower and the other set to departure to make the transition easier when the time came). Kudos to this kid... I'm not sure I would have put it down without talking to my instructor first. In fact I am almost certain I would not have, unless there was something else going on - like maybe he really did only have 10 gallons of fuel on board. So ya.. excellent job done.
If he really only had 10 gallons of fuel and he did say the plane was doing weird things (which atc didn't pick up on) he might have been so low on fuel the plane was doing 'weird things' and he knew he better get it down asap. just a theory but I wonder.. in any case stayed calm and landed like a boss.
I had forgot Maggie was on this channel and thought she was Fight Attendant Supervisor at Ryanair Operations ••• Me myself an I caught a propeller about to come unscrewed on J-3 during first 10 Hours ♦ I argued and pushed it and forced saying I would not go up ~ CFI reported the mechanic said I did have it right - later the _same_ *CFI* locks the axles on the J-3 with Navion starting takeoff roll so me I understand why the CFI took actions that he did
How the heck is it broken if he just landed it safely? Any good pilot can land airplane with gear missing/not retracting. And he's shown just that attitude of a good pilot. Now on the other hand we don't know why did it broke off in the first place... But even if it was his mistake he made up for it pretty well.
@@АбракадабраКобра259 yes, like what he say, maybe hit sign or something cause the landing gear fall off. I say impress was based on he still on solo learning and land the non fully functional aircraft (as landing gear missing)
@@АбракадабраКобра259 NTSB report states he broke the wheel on a previous landing due to pilot error during a crosswind landing. My guess is he landed with a drastic side load, shearing the wheel off. The amount of force it must take to break a wheel off a C172 has got to be substantial considering the abuse we’ve all seen on that airframe for decades and hardly any have wheel shearing issues.
its not even an FBO... its a Flight school that regularly sends up solos. I would have direct phone number for the school as well as the instructors' phone for any solo. But that's from a USAF UPT mentality.
Absolutely ridiculous. Why even ask him his fuel if you are going to be like "no I think he's wrong" like wtf?! 10 gallons is like 80 pounds or so, it's not that far fetched. And then when someone asks you a question about the situation let's not even try to ask the pilot, just say "well he is a student so he probably doesn't know." Meanwhile don't even ask what school he is part of, just guess incorrectly and then chase that school around when you don't even have contact info. My god.
And when a student of said school says "I don't think he's one of our's" just ignore that and keep chasing the wrong school before finally asking the pilot himself.
Agreed. Solo is the last flight with basic training, so essentially should be treated as a full pilot, not someone new. Yeah his hours are as low as they come, but still, the assumption is he would be fully licensed if he passed everything at that point, so they should treat him like any pilot in charge.
@@lightotw Not really. If it was a first or subsequent solo there is a good chance he's of a very low skill level. Just because they're solo you can't assume he's competent to hold a licence at all. Especially since he had no idea what to do. If it were near a PPL level he'd have at least some idea on what to do...ie Approach speed correct, hold the aircraft on the good side for as long as possible, shutdown after touchdown etc. etc. I'm not critizicing the landing, he survived unharmed and the aircraft is in reasonably good shape so it was successful nonetheless
@@AlexFHDVideos2 OK, then what happens on the next flight after solo, assuming that was marked as a pass? Still call flight school for help to land? Do you see my point?
Wow, WTF this is depressing. The Scottsdale Flight OPS KSDL need some serious training, mainly Ground. Pilots intentions were to bring that bird down, instead of calling the flight school. Speaking of flight school where was the FI? Oh wait, scottsdale OPS, call I 800 CAP CRUNCH flight school Press one on your key pad if your Scottsdale Flight OPS in need of retraining, what was that? Bravo to the pilot for bringing the bird down. Scottsdale get some training for God sake, who trained you all? Bubba GUMP? To the pilot, young man I would go down range with you anytime. Excellent work
While I agree that there may've been better ways to handle the situation, the initial problems were that a) the student pilot didn't know what to do, and b) the ATC didn't know what to do. ATC aren't always trained pilots, so for more control-oriented problems, they tend to call in professional flight instructors. Which they tried to do. It didn't go very well, but nothing can change that now.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 It's not that the student pilot didn't know what to do, it's he said it outright. If he was an experienced airliner pilot, he'd say "We need to hold to run checklists" and "We need to speak with maintenance" to mean the same thing.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 It's true the student pilot didn't know what to do but ATC has been trained, for many hours, in emergency procedures. They wasted time trying to call the flight school when they could've walked the pilot thru some basic emergency procedure checklists, asked him if he'd done crosswind landings (same thing he had to do when landing this plane), figured out why the plane was flying erratically, etc.
I would have thought they could have brought a Cessna pilot and then an IP from somewhere on freq. to reassure him, get a comprehensive assessment of the aircrafts status and the name of his IP and flight school, as well as talking to him about a regular landing expectation with rudder compenstion on landing run and expected left turn off the runway when he slows down. The tape made it sound like no-one was really working with this pilot, he seemed a bit alone, but we did not hear many of thr radio transmissions I would assume.
Man, they didn't even ask if he thought he knew how much air time he had or what flight school they just said he doesn't know he's a solo student but never ask they are inept and should have asked the kid right away. Nice landing kid great composure!!! Now the rest of the first contact with him wow. The woman does nothing but make inaccurate statements and try and defer any responsibility I did tell him to land I was speaking with his instructor (I could not find forever but didn't ask a pilot what school he was from) and "he" just decided to land himself while admittedly she did not know how much fuel he had. Imagine an emergency that required her to think quicker than "circle for awhile". Noice Kid great job!
Nice landing for a student! Had a student near local airport around here she did a very similar landing and minimal damage to the plane she was safe no injuries also. She also got lucky as there were air force army and coast guard pilots on the ground who noticed her loose the gear her instructor went up in the tower and walked her through the landing.
Speaking as an ex CPL, that was one hell of a good landing, especially as he possibly had not yet been given instruction for that situation (to hold the wounded side up as long as possible). Well Done!!! Very well done!!! Why did the Tower not have an up-to-date emergency contact list for all the operators on the Field?
Impressive! Kid was like, “um, yeah...so I’m landing this plane and gonna bring you the flight school info...Then I’ll liftoff amd circle again and wait you bozos to do ANYTHING.”
I don't know how people work there, but when I was in flight school in Italy the instructors would listen to the coms from the office with a portable scanner. The unawareness of anybody in that flight school shocks me more than the rest going on in this video.
i agree, that ground lady was awful and annoying. "he says he has 10 gallons but its probably more since he is a student solo" like wtf does that have to do with anything youre a ground controller not a pilot
Shawn Huffman 8-12 out of a system on the 172 a little low, when I was training went out with more. As for the NTSB, they may not even show and just leave it for that local FSDO office
Perfectly executed by the young student pilot. He definitely passed his first major test in aviation. I wish him a great future flying career filled with fun and adventures.
I can’t wait to have this guy as my future pilot on an airliner. He handled it awesomely and put ATC to shame! Well done captain, I hope the career works out well for you!
Mostly yes, but he did wander from the runway and hit a light or something which is something that most pilots never do, so after that yes he was awesome, Mostly an incredible State of mind
Experienced ground crew: Dithered and failed to obtain a complete picture. Inexperienced pilot: Flew the plane, remained calm and was decisive enough to over-rule ground and get the damaged plane on the ground safely. Well done sir.
Nothing to suggest he's a kid. Yes he's a student pilot but he could be 47 years old for all we know. So while he lacked technical skills and would have preferred to defer to expert advice, he didn't necessarily lack maturity or had never faced any kind of emergency before. When the advice wasn't coming and everyone else on the radio is sounding flustered and the aircraft has now started doing weird things he stopped deferring and took the decision. Excellent ending to a scary story.
One of our high schools here in the valley of the sun has a pilot's magnet program. When I saw that it was Scottsdale I wondered if it was one of theirs. 17 would be about the right age for their solos, I think.
@@rrknl5187 At the end of the video you mean? Look again, that's just a link to the next video which is about a 17 year old female pilot in similar circumstances.
Garon Hano I can see it now today we are going to learn how to land with two wheels. Student: like that will ever happen Jim: look outside I just did it, ya might want to pay attention
@@FamilyWinn Ground had nothing to do with the pilot, that's ATC's job. She's coordinating what happends on the ground with rescue and others involved.
Student did a great job ! He got tired of waiting for help and decided to go for it. In short, he dealt with the problem. I hope he takes this event and builds on it and doesn’t stop flying. I had a similar event and almost quit. 30 years later, I’m glad I didn’t.
In the end the PIC makes the decision, this case he made a great decision, with a great out come, no additional judgements are needed, period and done. Looking at the final arresting place, I have in my mind that if I am a solo, in a forced landing. Pop both doors if i am able, which perhaps he did. He was pretty close to not being able to escape quickly here..
You Earned Your Wings 100x Over. Fantastic Job piloting a crippled plane and Landing it & walking away. What an Amazing Pilot, to deal with the pressure of a true life& death dilemma, yet step out with courage and Land that plane. He stayed calm , decisive , assessed the situation , did all possible & then brought it in. God Bless.
This video caught my attention because on my very first solo, after takeoff and on base, they closed the airport because someone decided to land wheels up. My instructor* immediately got on the radio and told me to head north and wait for her call. I learned so much from her.
Awesome job for a kid who had around 20 hours flight time. On my solo I had an out of balance tire that vibrated like crazy on take off. Later I saw in a flight magazine some student had crashed that training 172 in a field. The flight school closed and my second fav plane was shipped overseas.
I 'm wondering what sign he hit to remove the wheel? 1:15. Last time I flew, I don't remember ANY signs on the runway. Good job on the landing tho. And since you lived, you DO get credit for the landing in your log book!
There are runway and taxiway identification signs that line the edges of runways at runway/taxiway intersections at all but the smallest airports. (Having said that, I'd be surprised if hitting one would actually rip the main gear off - but obviously something did.)
According to the NTSB report: Examination of security videos revealed that, during the first landing and go around, the airplane drifted to the left and the left main landing gear struck a runway sign. At the time of the accident he had only around 9.1 hours of flight time, which would leave me to believe this was likely a loss of control or asymmetrical breaking force. That being said, good on him for getting it down. Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
Dude nailed that as well as any pro could. Regardless of how he lost his wheel, he was able to get himself on the ground safely and he managed to not hit anything, that's all that matters.
It must have felt like hours waiting for his instructor to be found. I can't blame him for finally deciding to land. Must have been really stressful for him.
That was actually really good for not having anyone walk him through it. Could even tell he tried to correct the drift to the gearless side with the rudders until it was too strong
@@LukeEvans55 that’s part of the reason. The main one is the potential to have the door get jammed, trapping you inside, exposing you to things like fire.
I am not a pilot just did my share of being a passenger! However this is like calling the fire department and getting instructions on how to put the fire out. the student had more brain cells then anyone on the radio.
Sloppy management by ATC, they didn't even ask for the flight school immediately they just assumed one. I understand a student pilot would be stressed and you wouldn't want to overburden them with the radio, but it's a simple question that could have saved a lot of minutes in getting the right instructor on time. Instructor also shouldn't have been on lunch break during a student solo.
It seems no one noticed once he pulled off a rather smooth missing-a-wheel landing and parked the Skyhawk on the grass the ground controller referred to him as "pilot" and not '"student." He took off, flew around a bit, and landed safely. Task completed. A solo student flight is always something of a trial by fire. He did well.
Incompetence all around. They don’t even ask him what his flight school is until half an hour in?! And what the hell is his instructor doing all this time to be completely unaware of what's going on?
For a student pilot in a non-standard situation, he did a pretty good job of remaining calm and communicating clearly. And had the confidence to make the judgement call to land, likely thinking the situation was going to get worse if he stayed in the air. Well done. On the other hand, little confused by how they handled the situation. Why not just ask the kid for his instructors number? Why ask him how much fuel he has only to then say it's probably more than that? He was in an uncomfortable situation for sure, but he didn't seem incompetent.
She was told 2nd hand that he said 'about 10 gallons', and I assumed that from her experience, a student solo likely has more fuel than that. Plus, she is advising a firefighting unit, so the comment that it is likely more is exercising sensible caution.
Great job staying ahead of his Aircraft and staying with ATC communication with the tower and staying calm throughout this and I'll be the one who would tell him that you did a fantastic landing to walking away from . Please let the student pilot know that .
He could felt he can't stay in the air anymore and decided to land himself. He definitely knows which situation he was at. The helpless one is the controller.
In all fairness, the controllers were too busy ignoring relevant details from the student pilot, while focused on an attempt to ascertain his level of perceived stupidity, and simultaneously calling an Uber for a mysterious flight instructor from an unknown location, to offer to much help. It's call task saturation. Really they should have detailed one (or more) controllers to ignore and question his reports, another to verbalize that he don't know nuthin', at least two to guess the flight school, a phone number lookeruper, a travel and accommodations director to summon the wrong instructor, a controller to finally permit landing at the last moment, and a recess monitor to make sure that nobody said anything mean. Among others. Perhaps an ad hoc committee to formulate questions such as "Hey, who's your instructor?". Or "How familiar are you with the concept of 'fuel'?" And a jury to fairly decide the truth of any such an answer as may have been made by the defendant.
That was F-ING impressive! He had no idea what to do, but when his plane started feeling unsafe to keep flying he decided to put it down anyway and made a beautiful landing! I love watching student solos ace their emergencies.
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By the sound of it, the controllers sounded more freaked out than the poor kid missing his wheel.
Same thought here ;)
Yeah ATC sounded panicked
I’m not a controller but imagine how frustrating this would be if you’re the ATC and you can’t do much to help this kid. They don’t want him to get hurt.
@@VASAviation They, possibly, were more aware of the seriousness and, possible consequences of the missing gear.
Blissful ignorance on the students part.
Dylan hehe hello same name person. Anyways, sometimes controllers like this- especially at TRACONs- have supervisors and are really helpful in situations like these.
Plot twist: In the future he gets married to Captain Maggie and they raise a squad of daredevil test pilots.
Love this reference.
They'll be U2 pilots, if you've ever seen the landing gear on those
How cool would that be!
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I don't know if there are any U2 left. I think they were replaced by SR71's they are a lot faster. If anything, someone should be working on a SR71 variant as a drone with bigger faster engines. Something that can fly in international airspace.
drmayeda1 U-2’s are still on active duty.
I think the student thought that the airplane could be compromised and situation deteriorating. He probably made the best choice for the info that everyone had. He could have had more damage like an oil or fuel leak etc. He felt the airplane acting weird and gut feeling decided to land. Bravo kid, this will prepare him for a lifetime of flight.
The fuel is in the wings. Since this was a high wing plane I doubt any possibility for a fuel leak. As for oil leaks, the oil is in the engine in the front of the plane. Also a very highly unlikely scenario.
All that time he "didn't know what to do".....then suddenly he takes the option to land as if he knew how to handle it. It's most likely he lost his cool and dreamed the plane was acting differently than just being without that "wheel thingy". He certainly took a LONG time to shut down the engine! That should have been done immediately after ground contact. How the hell do you tear a wheel off a C172 and end up airborne, anyway???
what's the old saying. Any landing you can away from is a good landing
10 gallon is like 80lbs of gas not a who lot
@@nkill6 thats about 1 hour - 1 hour 15 minutes of flying in a C172
_Landing gear suddenly goes AWOL_ , _Gets bored waiting for help to arrive_ , _Searches youtube for landing without a wheel_ , _Finds Maggies video on VASAviation_ , "Ahh so that's how its done, I got this!"
That's what I was thinking!
😂😂😂
Orders gear and wheel from Amazon and they deliver to plane.
@@pondartinc4002 But only if he has Prime.
@@pondartinc4002 I think we finally found the use case for drone deliveries!
legends say that the ATC and the flight instructor are still formulating a plan for the Cessna to land
BAM
LMAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL. Very funny.
LOL, no doubt, student did a great job!!! I have one question, where the hec was his instructor? gosh! LOL.
Sorry to say but the controllers sound like idiots!
wait for instructor...nah F it .... i'll land !! well done !!
Made my day hahaha
fifa 18 De gekste Ha.
This k he was concerned about fuel. Better to run out on final than in the pattern.
@@trd4d well, he actually said that aircraft functions more and more abnormally as well, so he might have been concerned about his ability to control aircraft in short future.
Lmao
Wow. A student solo and he's left high and dry. Handled it like a boss, still maintains good radio discipline too.
Props to the CFI as well. The student is training him well
No kidding. I think he realized nobody was gonna be of much help.
jd, KUDO'S TO HIS CFI, DID A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!! YOU DID A SUPER JOB YOUNG MAN!!! BE PROUD OF YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!
@@StortWeldingCoLLC You say that, but you're only seeing half the story. The wheel didn't fall off on its own. He hit an airfield sign trying to land in a cross wind on his first solo. Does a good instructor typically send up a student to do their first solo in a 15kt crosswind? What's worse is the wind was do to outflow from an isolated storm cloud to the west. One that was clearly dropping rain. If the instructor would have waited 30 minutes to send him up it would have been perfect conditions.
*Student pilot today. Professional pilot tomorrow!*
He said he wanted to attempt it and he did it. Kudos to him and everyone who tried to help out 👍👍
*17-Year-Old Student Pilot Maggie lands her plane without a wheel* --> ruclips.net/video/B229-KLudTo/видео.html
Suggestion: put a link for the other student with a missing gear in the description
In our country I think they will blame the student for breaking the airplane. Like it was when our student performed a landing in a field with an engine failure and they said it was his fault like he messed up something with fuel mixture. And another student landed on a runway with gears up they said he forgot to extend it
This is the first time I am seeing that the ATC does not know how to handle an emergency situation. They did not even know how long the aircraft could fly with 10 gallons of fuel, by the time they got hold of the Flight Instructor, it was probably too late. Good for him that he decided to land, otherwise he could have run out of fuel with a disastrous outcome.
@@russdill that was fixed gear p2002. Nose wheel was broken by the way as I heard
It REALLY bothers me how, because he’s a student solo, they’re assuming he cannot relay any information reliably. He sounds as if he is calm, cool, and working the problem. In my mind he’s the source of the only reliable information they have & ought to be utilized as one. He’s a student solo, but other than the fire fighters he sounds more calm than anyone.
Other than whatever occurred to lose the left MLG… this young man did an OUTSTANDING job landing that aircraft safely. He didn’t wait for whatever help ‘might’ be on the way, he used his wits & the aircraft to effect one hell of an emergency landing.
same, ATC loses all respect after that 'he's unaware of his situation' line
My thought was could he not hear her calling his flight school wrong. Someone should have caught that even before a female said I don't think that's one of ours
As a current ATP student we get 41 hours before we solo and 4 more before the cross country so like it’s possible for us to have more hours then a private pilot
I thought they only questioned him on the fuel qty he was reporting, which I think is reasonable. Fuel gauges in old trainer aircraft as notoriously unreliable (and are only required to indicate empty correctly). I would also be pretty surprised/ skeptical if he had been sent up with 10 gallons of fuel on a student solo, most training flights are conducted with full tanks because the checklist rotate, climb, and best glide speeds are based on max gross weight.
That said, totally agree that tower and ground didn't seem to be much of a resource here. If I were in this situation I would hope they could at least act as a calming voice to help me think through my plan. Instead they added anxiety and told him they didn't know what to do without getting his instructor on the line. Glad he decided to put it down.
@@benbaldwin9181 Damn 41 hours? I solo'd at 15. When do y'all normally get sent for the checkride?
GRD: "... he's a student solo so we aren't able to get that much information out of him... " - Probably not when you don't even ask him question like what his instructors phone number is or how much flightime 10 gallons in a Cessna will give you?!
lmfao I read this as it came up in the video
Agree. I heard that and thought...... maybe ask. Why not was him for his instructor number.
Right? They didn’t even ask him his school or instructor name and number or where to find him.... Not like he’s busy up there doing much while flying patterns in a Cessna.
Yeah, let's have this STUDENT pilot pull out his cell phone to get a phone number, while he's maneuvering a complex flying machine, several thousand feet above the earth, dealing with the stress of an emergency situation, trying to keep airspeed, attitude, and altitude in a reasonable range, all while possibly only having flown the aircraft a dozen times. Seems reasonable.
@@bulletbling And yet he lands smoothly and staying calm
Congrats to the pilot, he did as well as any low hour student could be expected to.
no kidding! plus putting it down with a gusty crosswind.. I would have lost my shit for sure. He came off with minimal damage.
Except the part where he broke the airplane causing the issue in the first place...
@@jefflangstrom7294 I hope you’re not a flight instructor. Prick.
@@RogerAlan "Did as well as any low hour student could be expected to"? Do you expect low hour students to snap the gear off of their planes? I hope you are not a flight instructor, dummy.
So much incompetence in a single video. Congrats to the pilot for making the decision to land.
Control: uh, can we find the instructor.
Everyone else: anyone know where the instructor is?
Pilot: yeah, I'm just gonna land.
That was pretty much a textbook landing........really good.
The kid kept his calm all the way....that's key to any emergency.
While he didn't have many hours, any student who has just soloed is a pretty good pilot. He can handle the plane well, he just doesn't have the experience needed to make decisions, as noted in the video.
I hope this guy keeps flying, he is on his way to being one of the best.
This comment needs more thumb ups! Literally most important with any air emergency is keeping calm. Even when he wasn't sure on wtf to do he was calm and collected. IMHO most important quality for a pilot. Well done.
@@Fiskanatorz The more ice you have in your veins, the better your chances. Calm, cold and calculating........that'll give you the best chance of a positive outcome.
This guy did all right. He lofted the flare a bit, but considering his situation, I think it was a brilliant landing. He kept the left wing, fuselage, and horizontal stabilizer up until they were in the grass. He was even considerate enough to clear the runway! Really nice job! (DAMN Cessna did a great job designing the Skyhawk!)
Can't see it super clean in the video, but it almost looks like he was using his rudder to keep it as straight as he could since the plane was trying to go the other direction because of the landing gear. Honestly, all things considered, student solo, damaged plane, wind conditions, he did a fantastic job. Almost instructional tape worthy.
I am shocked by ATC's behavior here. Instead of putting confidence into the pilot they just tread him like he is clueless. Hats up to the student pilot by keeping calm and doing what was right to do.
His instructor saw the wheel come off and decided it was break time lol.
I was at the EAA convention back in the '80s, and just happened to take a break to watch the planes land. A low wing tricycle gear plane touched down in front of me, and lost its right gear. The pilot kept the right wing up on the runway, then when he was starting to lose it, he turned off the runway to the right into the grass in a tightening spiral. He did about 270 degrees of turn, slowing the plane, and using the energy to keep the wing up. Finally, he hit the breaks and the plane came to a stop, and the wing came down gently in the grass without any forward motion. It was a beautiful thing to see, and I heard later they repaired it and took off the next day.
Common sense kicked in before panic. This kid realized pretty quickly (for a student, at least) that landing was obviously his best option. Even in chaos mode, his phraseology was better than a lot of commercial pilots I've heard on this channel. I hope he keeps flying.
Heh-heh. If you're flying, landing is your ONLY option.
@@JacIndyBachs As my instructor would say, "Takeoffs are optional. Landings are mandatory."
He was calmer and communicated better than that wannabe hag diminishing him.
BE THE PILOT, HE DECIDED! HE was calmer than all those ‘dweebes’ On frequency!
He was calm because he is blissfully unaware. The ATCers know how bad the situation is and how bad it can get.
@@soccerguy2433 no.. you must keep a level head in these circumstances. If he started freaking out, it could have been much worse for him. Pretty sure he knew he was in trouble, deciding to put her down was a good decision.
soccerguy2433 in flight school they teach you all the things that could go wrong and what to do. This kid was just doing what his instructor would have taught him, stay calm and fly the plane.
@@curtisridge2506 Agreed - he's also in a small cessna without a ton of fuel weight. He's done enough landings if he's soloing - I would have been more worried about doing 'extra' damage to the plane handling the landing wrong than hurting myself.
Dude was super calm - great job!
Pilot: Tower, the plane’s doing a lot of weird things…
Tower: oh, well just keep flying around…
Good job pilot for taking control of your situation. And pretty nice landing too.
Yes, but saying your plane is "doing alot of weird things", isn't actually very helpful
For all those wondering this plane burns about 10 gallons an hour, so he had at best an hour of fuel left. More likely 30-45 minutes to avoid any risk of low fuel/plus higher fuel burn due to his situation
I watched it all happen right in front of my place. We had a nasty little storm cell come in while he was doing touch and gos. The winds came up quick and almost 90 degrees from the left on rwy 21. He tried to land around the B12 intersection, turned into the wind a litte too much and got off the left edge of the rwy. He was about three feet off the ground and decided to go around. Smart decision, but before he could climb out of it his left main cought the B11 taxi sign. The sign exploded, sounded like a shotgun. His wheel assembly went bouncing down three more intersections. That guy did a helluva good job keeping it in the air and putting it down safe.
So...wait 10 minutes before asking what flight school? That seems smart. Geez.
There's probably one main flight school at that field (ATP, it sounds like), so they just assumed he came from them. Only after they weren't getting a hold of anyone there, they thought: Well, maybe he's with a school from elsewhere and his instructor is standing around somewhere. (Which happend to be the case. After they found out his name, the very next thing was a call to OPS to pick him up at the gate.)
@@QemeH Which is why you should never assume. I was waiting for him to ask what flight school he was with since the alert to tower.
I thought this was a little weird. At KLGB where I did my training, the tower controllers generally knew what call signs belonged to what flight school, to the point of jokingly giving instructions 'give way to company traffic on taxiway X' when you were to wait for another plane from your school or club. Some places like Embry Riddle make it obvious with tail numbers that end in 'ER'. You never know - the controller working tower may be new.
The flight school and instructor SHOULD be there at the airport listening to traffic on ground station while their students are soloing.
@tafan321 That's what I thought. All flight schools I know of monitor the frequency, and in the case of the first couple of solos, the instructor will be listening on a handheld transceiver.
"Thank you for calling 1-800-ATP-FLYER. Your call is important to us. You are: Number 5. Of. 6. For Takeoff."
Impressive skills by the student to recognize that his plane was acting strange and to just go for the landing and avoid further risk. Also nailed the landing!
I respect the student’s decision to land before the instructor even got on frequency. It’s an example of confidence in your own decision-making process which is not something everyone is comfortable with.
That was a pilot who proved himself worthy of the title. He remembered the fundamentals of aviate, navigate, communicate and brought it down with the best of his skill. Bravo Zulu and I'd be proud to be his passenger.
When he said weird things were happening with the plane I was hoping he would just land it. No sense making a bad situation worse by trying to keep it in the air and potentially having another problem come up. Great job by him landing
Especially since ATC disregarded his "10 gallons" statement so easily as wrong information of a confused pilot. What if he was right? Maybe he burned to much during his training, maybe he had a leak, maybe he didn't calculate correctly... I understand ATC's concern for the man and wanting to get a pro on the line, but as we say on this channel time and time again: Ain't nobody in charge of that plane but the captain.
QemeH I think for me, since she was talking to the fire truck & ops, the “disregard” of the amount of fuel on board might have been more to do with preparing the fire fighters & ground personal for a bigger fire if this became a worse case scenario. I could be wrong, but it’s just a thought.
@@claystorm That was my impression as well.
@@claystorm Same. That was the impression I got, too. 10 Gallons of Avgas burns away much faster than 20 or 30 gallons, and that aircraft can hold at least 50.
I think he made the right call. You fly the plane first and foremost and then you were serious the situation. If it starts getting Squirrley then you have a whole new set of problems to deal with. By him doing what he did and landing it he probably saved the plane, his own life, and possibly other peoples lives because if he had gone down anywhere in that region, he could’ve had a house, I’ll store, even on the highway. I don’t live too far away from Scottsdale regional airport and I know that area very well. That has the potential for some very disastrous results if he hadn’t done what he did.
"He says 10 gallons, we think he has more"
This, right here, is grounds for a sacking. Even if someone is a student, if they report an amount of fuel, *never* assume they have *more.* You can assume less, margin of error etc, but never assume more.
Depends. For the flight time you should asume its correct or less, but for the fire department asuming more is safer.
Good on the PiC for making the call to land. A good pilot knows when to take matters into their own hands, and he knew the right time to do so. As a result, he is safe, the plane looks reparable and nobody on the ground was hurt. Amazing outcome!
Wow, brings back memories of my first solo in 1991, also in a C-172. Almost immediately after takeoff I lost my airspeed indicator. When you are taught to fly by the numbers that's pretty disconcerting. i made it around the pattern and made a normal landing but it was pretty darn scary that early in one's flying career with just 11 hours under your belt. It turns out the pitot tube had hit a bug which plugged it causing it to be plugged.
murphy's law, you did a great job of flying the aircraft!
I fly out of KSDL (Scottsdale) and I was blown away that they did not have direct phone numbers available to every flight school and FBO on the field. There is no reason at all for them to have to dial a 1-800 number like that. Also, any CFI could have assisted - they didn't necessarily need to track down HIS instructor. There are probably 20 CFI's at Scottsdale at any given time. With this, all said.. wow the student did an amazing job of keeping his head and landing perfectly given the conditions.
Wow. What a cluster. Respect to PIC.
"The aircraft did land safely, and the pilot is out of the aircraft."
Well done, sir. Well done.
I learned to fly under an instructor by the name of Jean at Riverside Airport in Tulsa. Whenever I would go out for a solo, including my first solo, she would be there in her vehicle with her portable radio set to tower - and had instructed me to switch to her "private" channel (just an unused standard channel - I won't mention the freq here, but I still remember it!) if anything went wrong and I needed to talk to her. I never had to do that... but after watching this and looking back, I must say my instructor rocked. I had no idea how lucky I was... On my first solo I remember setting my secondary radio to her freq just in case, and using the main for both ground and then tower (whereas usually I would have one set to tower and the other set to departure to make the transition easier when the time came). Kudos to this kid... I'm not sure I would have put it down without talking to my instructor first. In fact I am almost certain I would not have, unless there was something else going on - like maybe he really did only have 10 gallons of fuel on board. So ya.. excellent job done.
Him and Maggie flying
*We don't we don't need wheels where we're going*
-Alright, sister. Right is all to you, left is *mine*.
-Let's scrub this baby's belly...
Tendies This is a event horizon reference right? I just saw the movie a couple days ago lol
The only “ADULT “ in the video was the Pilot. Calm, followed ATC instructions, realized the situation was deteriorating and took control. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
If he really only had 10 gallons of fuel and he did say the plane was doing weird things (which atc didn't pick up on) he might have been so low on fuel the plane was doing 'weird things' and he knew he better get it down asap. just a theory but I wonder.. in any case stayed calm and landed like a boss.
Very nice landing, great job! Maggie inspiring solo students everyday!
I had forgot Maggie was on this channel and thought she was Fight Attendant Supervisor at Ryanair Operations ••• Me myself an I caught a propeller about to come unscrewed on J-3 during first 10 Hours ♦ I argued and pushed it and forced saying I would not go up ~ CFI reported the mechanic said I did have it right - later the _same_ *CFI* locks the axles on the J-3 with Navion starting takeoff roll so me I understand why the CFI took actions that he did
Serious impressive landing with that broken plane.
Fate T. Harlaown that was a good landing!
How the heck is it broken if he just landed it safely? Any good pilot can land airplane with gear missing/not retracting. And he's shown just that attitude of a good pilot. Now on the other hand we don't know why did it broke off in the first place... But even if it was his mistake he made up for it pretty well.
@@АбракадабраКобра259 yes, like what he say, maybe hit sign or something cause the landing gear fall off.
I say impress was based on he still on solo learning and land the non fully functional aircraft (as landing gear missing)
@@АбракадабраКобра259 Metal fatigue and maintenance mistakes exist.
@@АбракадабраКобра259 NTSB report states he broke the wheel on a previous landing due to pilot error during a crosswind landing. My guess is he landed with a drastic side load, shearing the wheel off. The amount of force it must take to break a wheel off a C172 has got to be substantial considering the abuse we’ve all seen on that airframe for decades and hardly any have wheel shearing issues.
Atta boy!!! You stayed calm, and you flew the airplane, navigated, and communicated. You couldn’t have done it any better.
Tower manager needs to work on a contact list. Not having an FBO phone number??
its not even an FBO... its a Flight school that regularly sends up solos. I would have direct phone number for the school as well as the instructors' phone for any solo. But that's from a USAF UPT mentality.
@@soccerguy2433 that’s from a smart business and safety standpoint
Well and maybe not just guessing would help too
@@soccerguy2433 Agreed. I'm at a busy flight school. We work them everyday and can contact them and the instructor Immediately.
I'm surprised it took them that long to ask the pilot himself what flight school he was in.
That was one of my first thoughts.
Absolutely ridiculous. Why even ask him his fuel if you are going to be like "no I think he's wrong" like wtf?! 10 gallons is like 80 pounds or so, it's not that far fetched. And then when someone asks you a question about the situation let's not even try to ask the pilot, just say "well he is a student so he probably doesn't know." Meanwhile don't even ask what school he is part of, just guess incorrectly and then chase that school around when you don't even have contact info. My god.
And when a student of said school says "I don't think he's one of our's" just ignore that and keep chasing the wrong school before finally asking the pilot himself.
Agreed. Solo is the last flight with basic training, so essentially should be treated as a full pilot, not someone new. Yeah his hours are as low as they come, but still, the assumption is he would be fully licensed if he passed everything at that point, so they should treat him like any pilot in charge.
Not really. 10 gallons or about 37 litres is barely a reserve amount of fuel for a 172 so it's almost definitely the wrong reading unfortunately.
@@lightotw Not really. If it was a first or subsequent solo there is a good chance he's of a very low skill level. Just because they're solo you can't assume he's competent to hold a licence at all. Especially since he had no idea what to do. If it were near a PPL level he'd have at least some idea on what to do...ie Approach speed correct, hold the aircraft on the good side for as long as possible, shutdown after touchdown etc. etc.
I'm not critizicing the landing, he survived unharmed and the aircraft is in reasonably good shape so it was successful nonetheless
@@AlexFHDVideos2 OK, then what happens on the next flight after solo, assuming that was marked as a pass? Still call flight school for help to land? Do you see my point?
I think this pilot realized that the situation in the tower was basically the shrug emoji and he decided to take charge.
No prop strike, and landed on the working wheel. Fine job.
Really impressed with the level of calm this student pilot had! I'm sure he will have a great flying career.
Wow, WTF this is depressing. The Scottsdale Flight OPS KSDL need some serious training, mainly Ground. Pilots intentions were to bring that bird down, instead of calling the flight school. Speaking of flight school where was the FI? Oh wait, scottsdale OPS, call I 800 CAP CRUNCH flight school Press one on your key pad if your Scottsdale Flight OPS in need of retraining, what was that? Bravo to the pilot for bringing the bird down. Scottsdale get some training for God sake, who trained you all? Bubba GUMP?
To the pilot, young man I would go down range with you anytime. Excellent work
While I agree that there may've been better ways to handle the situation, the initial problems were that a) the student pilot didn't know what to do, and b) the ATC didn't know what to do. ATC aren't always trained pilots, so for more control-oriented problems, they tend to call in professional flight instructors. Which they tried to do. It didn't go very well, but nothing can change that now.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 It's not that the student pilot didn't know what to do, it's he said it outright. If he was an experienced airliner pilot, he'd say "We need to hold to run checklists" and "We need to speak with maintenance" to mean the same thing.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 It's true the student pilot didn't know what to do but ATC has been trained, for many hours, in emergency procedures. They wasted time trying to call the flight school when they could've walked the pilot thru some basic emergency procedure checklists, asked him if he'd done crosswind landings (same thing he had to do when landing this plane), figured out why the plane was flying erratically, etc.
Love when the ATC and OPS say great job
Joa Campos it’s like they’re saying “guess we didn’t need the instructor”
I would have thought they could have brought a Cessna pilot and then an IP from somewhere on freq. to reassure him, get a comprehensive assessment of the aircrafts status and the name of his IP and flight school, as well as talking to him about a regular landing expectation with rudder compenstion on landing run and expected left turn off the runway when he slows down. The tape made it sound like no-one was really working with this pilot, he seemed a bit alone, but we did not hear many of thr radio transmissions I would assume.
Man, they didn't even ask if he thought he knew how much air time he had or what flight school they just said he doesn't know he's a solo student but never ask they are inept and should have asked the kid right away. Nice landing kid great composure!!! Now the rest of the first contact with him wow. The woman does nothing but make inaccurate statements and try and defer any responsibility I did tell him to land I was speaking with his instructor (I could not find forever but didn't ask a pilot what school he was from) and "he" just decided to land himself while admittedly she did not know how much fuel he had. Imagine an emergency that required her to think quicker than "circle for awhile". Noice Kid great job!
Nice landing for a student! Had a student near local airport around here she did a very similar landing and minimal damage to the plane she was safe no injuries also. She also got lucky as there were air force army and coast guard pilots on the ground who noticed her loose the gear her instructor went up in the tower and walked her through the landing.
Speaking as an ex CPL, that was one hell of a good landing, especially as he possibly had not yet been given instruction for that situation (to hold the wounded side up as long as possible). Well Done!!! Very well done!!! Why did the Tower not have an up-to-date emergency contact list for all the operators on the Field?
Because the imbecile lady treats it like an IT helpdesk job where she rambles like she's talking to her friends.
Impressive! Kid was like, “um, yeah...so I’m landing this plane and gonna bring you the flight school info...Then I’ll liftoff amd circle again and wait you bozos to do ANYTHING.”
I don't know how people work there, but when I was in flight school in Italy the instructors would listen to the coms from the office with a portable scanner. The unawareness of anybody in that flight school shocks me more than the rest going on in this video.
Oh man. Well done. I’m unsure given the circumstances, that could have been any cleaner.
Good job.
Such poise and confidence to trust his own discernment on the decision to land. Glad he had the proficiency to execute it.
OPS handled this terribly.
i agree, that ground lady was awful and annoying. "he says he has 10 gallons but its probably more since he is a student solo" like wtf does that have to do with anything youre a ground controller not a pilot
Shawn Huffman chances are that he did have more than that on board system on that plane is around 40 gallons we will never know the whole truth
@@kenclark9888 subscribe to the NTSB reports
Shawn Huffman 8-12 out of a system on the 172 a little low, when I was training went out with more. As for the NTSB, they may not even show and just leave it for that local FSDO office
russdill this might not even make it. We had a guy land gear up at our field and both NTSB and FSDO didn’t show as there were no injuries
Nice! Way to work the problem and not letting the problem work you!!
Tower and Ground had there head up there butts. In need of training.
Good job 👍 pilot!!!
Perfectly executed by the young student pilot. He definitely passed his first major test in aviation. I wish him a great future flying career filled with fun and adventures.
I can’t wait to have this guy as my future pilot on an airliner. He handled it awesomely and put ATC to shame! Well done captain, I hope the career works out well for you!
Mostly yes, but he did wander from the runway and hit a light or something which is something that most pilots never do, so after that yes he was awesome, Mostly an incredible State of mind
Experienced ground crew: Dithered and failed to obtain a complete picture.
Inexperienced pilot: Flew the plane, remained calm and was decisive enough to over-rule ground and get the damaged plane on the ground safely.
Well done sir.
remember ATC did say he was cleared for landing earlier if he wanted to.
Nothing to suggest he's a kid. Yes he's a student pilot but he could be 47 years old for all we know. So while he lacked technical skills and would have preferred to defer to expert advice, he didn't necessarily lack maturity or had never faced any kind of emergency before. When the advice wasn't coming and everyone else on the radio is sounding flustered and the aircraft has now started doing weird things he stopped deferring and took the decision. Excellent ending to a scary story.
Sounds like a kid to me. Reminds me of how we all sounded on frequency when I was 18 in flight school
He did not sound like he could be 47 years old...
The video stated he was 17.
One of our high schools here in the valley of the sun has a pilot's magnet program. When I saw that it was Scottsdale I wondered if it was one of theirs. 17 would be about the right age for their solos, I think.
@@rrknl5187 At the end of the video you mean? Look again, that's just a link to the next video which is about a 17 year old female pilot in similar circumstances.
This student flat out Rocked it on is own. Magnificent job!
I'm not sure I could have landed that well with all the wheels on the plane.
Garon Hano I can see it now
today we are going to learn how to land with two wheels.
Student: like that will ever happen
Jim: look outside I just did it, ya might want to pay attention
Flight School will just say "land".
They might send instructor up there to help if they have time
That ground controller is dangerous
Horrible ground controller. Pull out a phone book if you think a phone call is so important. More effort on dialing than helping the solo pilot!
@@FamilyWinn Ground had nothing to do with the pilot, that's ATC's job. She's coordinating what happends on the ground with rescue and others involved.
@@darkiee69she was coordinating a freaking chat room like she's talking with her husband about her day at work.
She needs to be fired.
Instructor or NO instructor there's only one thing to do..then he made his choice. NICE landing!
Yep. Takeoffs are optional. But landings are mandatory.
He did the BEST THING HE COULD DO by afmitting he was a student pilot and didn't know what to do.
6:51 "he's unaware of his situation"
Pretty sure he's acutely aware.
"Keep circling, we're gonna drive your instructor over here to the tower."
"Nah ima just land this thing."
Student did a great job ! He got tired of waiting for help and decided to go for it. In short, he dealt with the problem. I hope he takes this event and builds on it and doesn’t stop flying. I had a similar event and almost quit. 30 years later, I’m glad I didn’t.
Lession learned: Get tower a list of phone numbers of flight schools operating at the airport
In the end the PIC makes the decision, this case he made a great decision, with a great out come, no additional judgements are needed, period and done. Looking at the final arresting place, I have in my mind that if I am a solo, in a forced landing. Pop both doors if i am able, which perhaps he did. He was pretty close to not being able to escape quickly here..
You are telling me there was zero instructors on either frequency??
You Earned Your Wings 100x Over. Fantastic Job piloting a crippled plane and Landing it & walking away. What an Amazing Pilot, to deal with the pressure of a true life& death dilemma, yet step out with courage and Land that plane. He stayed calm , decisive , assessed the situation , did all possible & then brought it in. God Bless.
This video caught my attention because on my very first solo, after takeoff and on base, they closed the airport because someone decided to land wheels up. My instructor* immediately got on the radio and told me to head north and wait for her call. I learned so much from her.
Awesome job for a kid who had around 20 hours flight time. On my solo I had an out of balance tire that vibrated like crazy on take off. Later I saw in a flight magazine some student had crashed that training 172 in a field. The flight school closed and my second fav plane was shipped overseas.
I 'm wondering what sign he hit to remove the wheel? 1:15.
Last time I flew, I don't remember ANY signs on the runway.
Good job on the landing tho. And since you lived, you DO get credit for the landing in your log book!
There are runway and taxiway identification signs that line the edges of runways at runway/taxiway intersections at all but the smallest airports. (Having said that, I'd be surprised if hitting one would actually rip the main gear off - but obviously something did.)
According to the NTSB report:
Examination of security videos revealed that, during the first landing and go around, the airplane drifted to the left and the left main landing gear struck a runway sign.
At the time of the accident he had only around 9.1 hours of flight time, which would leave me to believe this was likely a loss of control or asymmetrical breaking force. That being said, good on him for getting it down. Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
Dude nailed that as well as any pro could. Regardless of how he lost his wheel, he was able to get himself on the ground safely and he managed to not hit anything, that's all that matters.
It must have felt like hours waiting for his instructor to be found. I can't blame him for finally deciding to land. Must have been really stressful for him.
That was actually really good for not having anyone walk him through it. Could even tell he tried to correct the drift to the gearless side with the rudders until it was too strong
First rule of emergency landing in a Cessna: open the doors. I’m surprised no one told him
Is this due to fire potential?
@@LukeEvans55 that’s part of the reason. The main one is the potential to have the door get jammed, trapping you inside, exposing you to things like fire.
I am not a pilot just did my share of being a passenger! However this is like calling the fire department and getting instructions on how to put the fire out. the student had more brain cells then anyone on the radio.
Sloppy management by ATC, they didn't even ask for the flight school immediately they just assumed one. I understand a student pilot would be stressed and you wouldn't want to overburden them with the radio, but it's a simple question that could have saved a lot of minutes in getting the right instructor on time.
Instructor also shouldn't have been on lunch break during a student solo.
It seems no one noticed once he pulled off a rather smooth missing-a-wheel landing and parked the Skyhawk on the grass the ground controller referred to him as "pilot" and not '"student." He took off, flew around a bit, and landed safely. Task completed. A solo student flight is always something of a trial by fire. He did well.
Captain Maggie got way more praise and I think this guy deserves just as much. Excellent job! You two should get married 😊
Maybe not as terrifying for a 36yo man as for a 17yo girl.
Incompetence all around. They don’t even ask him what his flight school is until half an hour in?! And what the hell is his instructor doing all this time to be completely unaware of what's going on?
For a student pilot in a non-standard situation, he did a pretty good job of remaining calm and communicating clearly. And had the confidence to make the judgement call to land, likely thinking the situation was going to get worse if he stayed in the air. Well done.
On the other hand, little confused by how they handled the situation. Why not just ask the kid for his instructors number? Why ask him how much fuel he has only to then say it's probably more than that? He was in an uncomfortable situation for sure, but he didn't seem incompetent.
She was told 2nd hand that he said 'about 10 gallons', and I assumed that from her experience, a student solo likely has more fuel than that. Plus, she is advising a firefighting unit, so the comment that it is likely more is exercising sensible caution.
To the student pilot, well done. Can’t say the same for the controllers........
Great job staying ahead of his Aircraft and staying with ATC communication with the tower and staying calm throughout this and I'll be the one who would tell him that you did a fantastic landing to walking away from . Please let the student pilot know that .
He could felt he can't stay in the air anymore and decided to land himself. He definitely knows which situation he was at. The helpless one is the controller.
I dont care if that kid is a solo or new, with that landing WITHOUT instructor guidance, give him the license!!
DAL4848 ! He hit the sign and lost a wheel without instruction as well, I vote no on the license but thumbs up for surviving.
@@HairHelmet hahahahaha
Hair Helmet But it was an accident. Shit happens idiot! I’d like to see your piloting skills.
Give him a license? How about determining how he knocked off that gear?
More so how did hit something and the plane not hit the ground imediately
In all fairness, the controllers were too busy ignoring relevant details from the student pilot, while focused on an attempt to ascertain his level of perceived stupidity, and simultaneously calling an Uber for a mysterious flight instructor from an unknown location, to offer to much help.
It's call task saturation. Really they should have detailed one (or more) controllers to ignore and question his reports, another to verbalize that he don't know nuthin', at least two to guess the flight school, a phone number lookeruper, a travel and accommodations director to summon the wrong instructor, a controller to finally permit landing at the last moment, and a recess monitor to make sure that nobody said anything mean. Among others. Perhaps an ad hoc committee to formulate questions such as "Hey, who's your instructor?". Or "How familiar are you with the concept of 'fuel'?" And a jury to fairly decide the truth of any such an answer as may have been made by the defendant.
And meanwhile the controllers wound up killing the student by assuming.
That was F-ING impressive! He had no idea what to do, but when his plane started feeling unsafe to keep flying he decided to put it down anyway and made a beautiful landing! I love watching student solos ace their emergencies.
He stayed calm all the time. Awesome job!
Good job dude! Way to go, hope you stick with it. You sound calm and you knew to hold on to for as long as you could.