I couldn't agree more, I feel like the author Kishimoto rushed it more and more the closer it got toward the end of the series and he forgot about so many things, it just kept getting worse and worse. Like the depth of Narutos character, but he probably forgot a lot things that happened cause the manga is so long. I mean just the fact that Sasuke was made to actually came back to the village and get together with Sakura was downright idiotic. It was such a weird ending in so many ways I wonder what was really going on behind the scenes. I remember reading it as the chapters came out and being so done with it, just wanted it to freaking end already. Which is sad cause it's such a great read for the most part
Ah man what they did to Sasuke is unforgivable. I really like him as a character so it's sad to see him be a shadow of himself now, I keep meaning to do a similar video to this on him actually.
Naruto from the beginning of the series tried to rebel against the shinobi system then later on instead of fighting back against this oppressive system he became the very thing he hated. As the story goes on his goals become him wanting to better the shinobi system and not overthrow it’s current structure. Naruto was at best an idealistic activist and then end is consistent with that depiction. It's kind of funny in hindsight that Nagato did have a bit of a point. Not in his extremist methods, but how blind Naruto is too politics and his world view. Instead Naruto rebelling the system that destroyed and ruined dozens of victims he continues it. Even when Naruto saved Sasuke, it didn't fix anything. He didn't addressed any of the problems with the shinobi system, and Kishimoto doesn't want to hold everyone accountable for those awful social conditions from past generation. Even in Boruto the hidden leaf village gets destroyed again because Naruto failed to do his job or learn from the past generation. And let's the cycle continue via the shinobi system.
I think you hit the nail on the head - the sad reality of Naruto is that everybody is still trapped in the cycle. Sasuke might have gone too far, but he had legitimate complaints against the village and it's a shame he's just been reduced to a lapdog for Konoha. And Naruto never gave more thought to the point Nagato was making.
While Naruto saved Sasuke instead of acknowledging the horrible things Konoha did to the Uchiha. He doesn't try to call out any of these systems that ruined their lives instead Kishimoto promotes it as a good thing. Despite this blind nationalism of the will of fire, it's used as propaganda in the war arc with previous hokage justifying genocide and oppression. Rather than the ending addressing all thr ethical issues that it was set up, Naruto failed as a character and didn't try to improve anything. Child soldiers are still dying, the rain village is still in ruins and Naruto keeps this system going. I find it ironic how Neji and Pain both victims of the shinobi system were right about him, not actually changing anything but promoting more propaganda. Yes, peace was achieved but that was temporary and didn't achieve nothing.
Really, the last chapter of Naruto should not be there. If you think about it, almost every plotline is finished in ch.699, except for Naruto becoming hokage. 700 creates many issues, which (probably unknowingly to the author) portray Naruto as a failure. The biggest one is changing anything substantial in how the village works - ch. 001 has Naruto doing pranks, ch. 700 has Boruto doing pranks. All the children seem to be copy pastes of their parents. If you realise that their parents behaves as they did because of hardships in their youth, you quickly realise that although the village has advanced technologically, it must have stagnated in terms of social aspects. From a more cynical perspective, 700 only exists to introduce the new generation, so that you can milk the fans indefinitely. I truly believe that the author did not see the problems this chapter introduces in the overarching story of Naruto, as he was more focused on introducing new characters.
Yeah it's a real shame, I completely agree with what you're saying. To me, Boruto feels like a soulless cash grab, made worse by the fact that the author(s) obviously didn't think about or care what the implications would be for the wider Naruto series. And it's taken the series in a very weird direction from what I've seen in the latest manga chapters, not to mention how it disrespects practically all the original main cast and tries to replace them with cheap knock offs.
I feel like the series failed to execute a lot of cool ideas, concepts, and situations, such as (but not limited to): 1. Underutilizng female characters--including Sakura, who's parents are only seen in an filler movie, never utilizes her genjutsu potential, and is written as a vapid character who would've been better off as a true rival to Sasuke and Naruto rather than a third wheel. Imagine if Inner Sakura was a real genjutsu! Tenten never gets a backstory, and Ino and Hinata, despite having super cool powers, aren't utilized as much. Not to mention Kurenai is the best genjutsu user in the village, but they wait to show us what she can do when she's against Itachi, who's much more powerful. It's a show of his strength, but it falls flat to show that SHE'S powerful too, but outclassed. 2. All the side characters have interesting histories and jutsu, but they're not as highlighted; the Nara clan is skilled in the medical field, but Shikamaru never becomes a medical nin despite Asuma's death making him feel like he has more responsibilities--and Asuma being Sarutobi's son is downplayed and his relationship with Konohamoru is never explored. Hinata, despite my love for her, wasn't prominent enough to feel like her and Naruto ending up together felt justified. And Naruto saving Gaara INVALIDATES THE WHOLE POINT OF JINJURIKI'S BEING HUMAN; Temari and Kankuro should've been there instead of being narratively sidelined. 3. Sasuke's moments of kidness and caring were too few and far between to convince me of his redemption, and him seeing Itachi as a good big brother in a bad situation is frightening, seeing how much physical, emotional, and physchological abuse Itachi put him through. 4. A lot of lore hit us late in the game, ie Kakashi's past, the first two Hokages and the other Uchihas, and Kaguya, making it a lot to process and needing better buildup. 5. Personally I would've preferred the Akatsuki to be either antiheroes who are dangerous because they bend the rules, or secondary villains who challenge the characters' growth and strength. Not all of them got backstories, and Sakura plateued after fighting Sasori, as well as Naruto coming off very naive and pretty much saying "you guys are wrong because you're the villains." Letting Orochimaru and Kabuto be the main villains instead of hitting the backburner and hastily redeemed would've been better to me.
Completely agree with you on all points. Kishimoto created an interesting world and cast of characters, but just didn't understand how to make the most of it. The majority of the cast got completely sidelined and forgotten about in Shippuden, and the Uchiha got way too much focus. I also feel like there were too many retcons, I'd have preferred to stick with the original vision from part 1. To be honest I've read some amazing fanfics of Naruto, which more capture the essence of what I wish the show had been. And it's a testament to the great world and characters Kishimoto crafted.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt I wonder if the toxic work envirornment was also a factor; Kishimoto did say that he was pressured to make the Chunin Exams arc "even if it killed him," and I'm sure the usual time crunches didn't help--but that means he shouldn't have introduced so many concepts/characters. One of the most frustrating things to me is how OP Sharingan is, being able to see through all genjutsu and being pretty much inescapable. If it's like that, genjutsu should be a Uchiha-exclusive thing, or not have been introduced at all (especially since in Part 2, Sharingan-related genjutsu are mostly the only ones we hear about).
@@OpticalSorcerer The sharingan is one of my favourite abilities ever. It was so cool in part 1 - I loved how Kakashi used it way back in the Zabuza fight. But yeah unfortunately it just ended up ridiculously overloaded. And yeah I think you're right - the horrible work schedule for manga authors definitely contributes. I hope the culture changes (I feel like it might be with some of the new gen), for both the sake of the authors and the stories they write.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt Definitely feel like it was so OP, particularly given the final arc. I also hope the environment changes, even though Japanese culture isn't big on strikes/making waves. It's a shame so many anime/manga put action scenes over a good story (Yu-Gi-Oh and 5ds were my first intros to that realization, sadly).
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt that is true but the lifespan of atomic fusion seems to be longer than human otherwise Czarnobyl wouldn't have a problem still
The "underdog" yet his father was the hokage, His mother was from a strong lost clan with high chakra reserves, The child of prophecy, Rencarnation of a demi-god. Totally an underdog guys! Neji was right. Shippuden ruined everything. Pain, madara & akatsuki can't even save it.
Part 1 Naruto was so good! Then yeah Shippuden was a disappointment looking back. There are some great things mixed in there, like the Pain fight (I much prefer Pain to Madara), but it's overshadowed by the bad stuff. Everything from the War Arc onwards I hated.
Its crazy how many ppl there are that completely misunderstand this show. You seem to think hes failed because hes perpetuating the system he promised to fix. I think a lil bit of critical thought completely negates this point tho. Like, the world in boruto is COMPLETELY changed compared to og/shippuden, no world wars, no villages vying for power, technology is advancing due to world peace, etc etc. The system clearly isnt being perpetuated, so i cant possibly see how he "failed" in any respect really, he accomplished literally everything he set out for, became hokage, be respected, ended war/hate, and saved his best friend. The only failure is the fact that they wanted to keep making money off of the brand so they made some shitty ending to the war arc just so theres someone to fight in boruto lmao.
Hey man, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I love talking about things like this. To your point - I still think it's a false peace. Setting aside all the dumb stuff in Boruto and all the aliens (which I hate), I don't think there's peace in the world because of anything Naruto did, I think there's peace in spite of what Naruto did. I don't think there any any examples of significant, meaningful change or reform that he actually enacted? The cage bird seal is an example I mention in the video, but what other changes has he made to ensure there is a long-lasting effective peace? There are still disparate villages and the entire ninja system is still intact (children being trained up and prepared to fight as ninjas), even the other 2 village elders who colluded with Danzo don't face any consequences for their action. Even referencing Boruto for a moment, the Rain Village is in a really poor state, which is a massive slap in the face towards Nagato who entrusted Naruto with a promise of a better future. Basically the institutions and system, which are the real problems, are all still in place and we don't see any changes to them. As I said in the video, after Naruto and Sasuke die what guarantee is there war won't break out again?
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt He enacted ALL of it by winning the war lmaoo. If he didnt win, there wouldnt have been a world to change. The whole reason he was fighting in the first place was to save his friend and eventually to solve world peace. And after he won, the world isnt in constant war anymore. Yes, there are things which you can point to that dont quite fit that narrative, but the overarching effects are still there. Like, i dont agree with the village elders going completely unpunished or the rain village stuff, but at that point, ur just looking at a couple different things and ignoring the big picture. The children being trained to be ninjas tho isnt necessarily a bad thing, they arent being sent on espionage or assassination missions, they're just being trained to control chakra (something every living thing has in the verse) and to defend themselves. And yes, you can say that after naruto, sasuke, and those that were moved by their philosophies are mostly gone, that the world might eventually fall back into war. But thats not really the point of the show, that in specific is more just a look at human nature in general. Its human nature to hate unfortunately, so if narutos wisdoms and philosophies didnt get passed down to everyone (which is bound to happen over time), then yes, world peace would more than likely end. But what could he POSSIBLY do to avoid that completely? ik narutos talk no jutsu's good, but im not sure he can do it to future generations lmao.
Definitely agree that there's a point to be made about it being human nature in general - the cycle of hatred/violence which doesn't end. Also a good point about everybody needing to learn to safely control chakra. But I think the problem with Naruto is he didn't even really try to solve the problem - I think the only reason the world isn't at constant war is because Naruto is alive and friends with everyone/overwhelmingly powerful, like if only one nation had a nuke and everybody else was kept in line because of them. What I wanted to see was Naruto trying to solve the problem, rather than ignoring it. Winning the war to enforce world peace isn't really an answer in my eyes, as you said he was just fighting to save his friends and "save the world". But a Hokage Naruto should really be acting towards ensuring a longer term peace and change to the institutions, and he should be visibly doing so. But he seems completely content with the current state of institutions - which is the biggest problem with the ninja world in my opinion. Even if he tried and failed, I think that'd be more satisfying for us to see as viewers. You mentioned yourself there's a few things you don't agree with, but I think that's the key thing. If you and I can agree on those things that need to be changed - why can't Naruto?
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt ur acting as if most of the world wants to go back to war the moment they can. Theyve made it a point multiple times to show that everyone is basically traumatized by the 4th great ninja war, no one would risk starting the cycle of hatred again. Rightfully so, as the world came incredibly close to ending. Even ppl that were evil to the core, like orochimaru, are content with the outcome. At least a few generations would have to pass before war and hate take hold again. As for the things we both agree could be done better, first off, the village elder thing can be chalked up to naruto ending the cycle of hatred through his method of forgiveness, which he demonstrates multiple times. Secondly, saying naruto outright failed because of a few nitpicks ab things he could have/can do better, is pretty ridiculous. Like i was sayin before, at that point, ur ignoring the big picture.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt can you suggest some changes naruto could make without making it too complicated for younger viewers? definitely your points are solid, and it would make for a much more compelling show. The thing is, you overestimate the author a bit too much. The author has an amazing ability to craft compelling characters and their stories, world buiding, power systems, creative battles and stuff but his ability to make a coherent plot and dealing with more complex topics is rather limited (still acceptable but not as good compared to the great ones). Even the plot has so many contradictory holes as he continuouly retconed and made up plots on the go. Even though some aspects of the show are dark, the politics portrayed in both Naruto and Boruto is really at bare bone basic level suitable for younger audience. Or you can argue may be the target audience are young (shonen) so they are not ready to deal with complex political stuff. So yeah, I agree Naruto in Boruto become a shadow of himself, I am really disappointed how they treated our beloved character. However, the points about him needing to be more politically active may go against the comprehesion depth the fanbase or audience possess.
@@hungothanh4913 Haha I've been hearing lots about how bad it was, I actually tried MHA before and really didn't like it. Maybe now the series has finished I can speed read the manga and share my thoughts on it.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt Yeah I kinda understand why you don't like it. I stop watching the anime at season 6 too. MHA starts strong with belovable main characters like All Might and Deku. The problem is the supporting characters are often not very interesting (especially class 1A - which I don't like for the most part) and many of the events in the story that centered around class 1A are quite boring- that why I stop watching. It is like seeing Naruto fillers except it's cannon. I like how powers in this world work, and Deku is a smart main character type who like using tatics in combat. Deku is one of my favaroite main characters, unfortunately, the supporting casts are just bad in general so really drag the whole experience down. And also, you can't easily skip those bad parts like in fillers, because it may contain some plot points, so it is a rough read. In many way, you can see Deku as a similar main characters to Naruto. Howeve, at least Naruto got his dreams in the end, become basically a god of his world at the end of Shipuden. But what deku got for all his sacrifices to save the world is a poor lonely life: no power, no money, no love, no friend, hardly anyone respect or remember him. What is ridiculous is, the final fight was broadcasted, so everybody know how Deku saved them and they still choose to completely forget and ignore him. The begining of MHA is Deku saying "This is the story of how I became the greatest hero". The ending just slaps so hard at audience's face believing in the prologue.
@@hungothanh4913 Wow really that sounds like such a shame. I'm always left confused with endings like this to shows - do the authors not care for the world and characters they created? Sometimes it feels like they resent their own creations...or lost sight of their original vision. I don't know, it's sad though.
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I couldn't agree more, I feel like the author Kishimoto rushed it more and more the closer it got toward the end of the series and he forgot about so many things, it just kept getting worse and worse. Like the depth of Narutos character, but he probably forgot a lot things that happened cause the manga is so long.
I mean just the fact that Sasuke was made to actually came back to the village and get together with Sakura was downright idiotic. It was such a weird ending in so many ways I wonder what was really going on behind the scenes. I remember reading it as the chapters came out and being so done with it, just wanted it to freaking end already. Which is sad cause it's such a great read for the most part
Ah man what they did to Sasuke is unforgivable. I really like him as a character so it's sad to see him be a shadow of himself now, I keep meaning to do a similar video to this on him actually.
Yeah, I was also very disappointed in the lack of any substantial changes by the end of the show.
I 100% refuse to watch Boruto because of this as well.
Naruto from the beginning of the series tried to rebel against the shinobi system then later on instead of fighting back against this oppressive system he became the very thing he hated.
As the story goes on his goals become him wanting to better the shinobi system and not overthrow it’s current structure. Naruto was at best an idealistic activist and then end is consistent with that depiction.
It's kind of funny in hindsight that Nagato did have a bit of a point. Not in his extremist methods, but how blind Naruto is too politics and his world view. Instead Naruto rebelling the system that destroyed and ruined dozens of victims he continues it.
Even when Naruto saved Sasuke, it didn't fix anything. He didn't addressed any of the problems with the shinobi system, and Kishimoto doesn't want to hold everyone accountable for those awful social conditions from past generation.
Even in Boruto the hidden leaf village gets destroyed again because Naruto failed to do his job or learn from the past generation. And let's the cycle continue via the shinobi system.
I think you hit the nail on the head - the sad reality of Naruto is that everybody is still trapped in the cycle. Sasuke might have gone too far, but he had legitimate complaints against the village and it's a shame he's just been reduced to a lapdog for Konoha. And Naruto never gave more thought to the point Nagato was making.
While Naruto saved Sasuke instead of acknowledging the horrible things Konoha did to the Uchiha. He doesn't try to call out any of these systems that ruined their lives instead Kishimoto promotes it as a good thing.
Despite this blind nationalism of the will of fire, it's used as propaganda in the war arc with previous hokage justifying genocide and oppression. Rather than the ending addressing all thr ethical issues that it was set up, Naruto failed as a character and didn't try to improve anything.
Child soldiers are still dying, the rain village is still in ruins and Naruto keeps this system going. I find it ironic how Neji and Pain both victims of the shinobi system were right about him, not actually changing anything but promoting more propaganda.
Yes, peace was achieved but that was temporary and didn't achieve nothing.
Really, the last chapter of Naruto should not be there. If you think about it, almost every plotline is finished in ch.699, except for Naruto becoming hokage. 700 creates many issues, which (probably unknowingly to the author) portray Naruto as a failure. The biggest one is changing anything substantial in how the village works - ch. 001 has Naruto doing pranks, ch. 700 has Boruto doing pranks. All the children seem to be copy pastes of their parents. If you realise that their parents behaves as they did because of hardships in their youth, you quickly realise that although the village has advanced technologically, it must have stagnated in terms of social aspects.
From a more cynical perspective, 700 only exists to introduce the new generation, so that you can milk the fans indefinitely. I truly believe that the author did not see the problems this chapter introduces in the overarching story of Naruto, as he was more focused on introducing new characters.
Yeah it's a real shame, I completely agree with what you're saying. To me, Boruto feels like a soulless cash grab, made worse by the fact that the author(s) obviously didn't think about or care what the implications would be for the wider Naruto series. And it's taken the series in a very weird direction from what I've seen in the latest manga chapters, not to mention how it disrespects practically all the original main cast and tries to replace them with cheap knock offs.
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I feel like the series failed to execute a lot of cool ideas, concepts, and situations, such as (but not limited to):
1. Underutilizng female characters--including Sakura, who's parents are only seen in an filler movie, never utilizes her genjutsu potential, and is written as a vapid character who would've been better off as a true rival to Sasuke and Naruto rather than a third wheel. Imagine if Inner Sakura was a real genjutsu! Tenten never gets a backstory, and Ino and Hinata, despite having super cool powers, aren't utilized as much. Not to mention Kurenai is the best genjutsu user in the village, but they wait to show us what she can do when she's against Itachi, who's much more powerful. It's a show of his strength, but it falls flat to show that SHE'S powerful too, but outclassed.
2. All the side characters have interesting histories and jutsu, but they're not as highlighted; the Nara clan is skilled in the medical field, but Shikamaru never becomes a medical nin despite Asuma's death making him feel like he has more responsibilities--and Asuma being Sarutobi's son is downplayed and his relationship with Konohamoru is never explored. Hinata, despite my love for her, wasn't prominent enough to feel like her and Naruto ending up together felt justified. And Naruto saving Gaara INVALIDATES THE WHOLE POINT OF JINJURIKI'S BEING HUMAN; Temari and Kankuro should've been there instead of being narratively sidelined.
3. Sasuke's moments of kidness and caring were too few and far between to convince me of his redemption, and him seeing Itachi as a good big brother in a bad situation is frightening, seeing how much physical, emotional, and physchological abuse Itachi put him through.
4. A lot of lore hit us late in the game, ie Kakashi's past, the first two Hokages and the other Uchihas, and Kaguya, making it a lot to process and needing better buildup.
5. Personally I would've preferred the Akatsuki to be either antiheroes who are dangerous because they bend the rules, or secondary villains who challenge the characters' growth and strength. Not all of them got backstories, and Sakura plateued after fighting Sasori, as well as Naruto coming off very naive and pretty much saying "you guys are wrong because you're the villains." Letting Orochimaru and Kabuto be the main villains instead of hitting the backburner and hastily redeemed would've been better to me.
Completely agree with you on all points. Kishimoto created an interesting world and cast of characters, but just didn't understand how to make the most of it. The majority of the cast got completely sidelined and forgotten about in Shippuden, and the Uchiha got way too much focus. I also feel like there were too many retcons, I'd have preferred to stick with the original vision from part 1.
To be honest I've read some amazing fanfics of Naruto, which more capture the essence of what I wish the show had been. And it's a testament to the great world and characters Kishimoto crafted.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt I wonder if the toxic work envirornment was also a factor; Kishimoto did say that he was pressured to make the Chunin Exams arc "even if it killed him," and I'm sure the usual time crunches didn't help--but that means he shouldn't have introduced so many concepts/characters. One of the most frustrating things to me is how OP Sharingan is, being able to see through all genjutsu and being pretty much inescapable. If it's like that, genjutsu should be a Uchiha-exclusive thing, or not have been introduced at all (especially since in Part 2, Sharingan-related genjutsu are mostly the only ones we hear about).
@@OpticalSorcerer The sharingan is one of my favourite abilities ever. It was so cool in part 1 - I loved how Kakashi used it way back in the Zabuza fight. But yeah unfortunately it just ended up ridiculously overloaded.
And yeah I think you're right - the horrible work schedule for manga authors definitely contributes. I hope the culture changes (I feel like it might be with some of the new gen), for both the sake of the authors and the stories they write.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt Definitely feel like it was so OP, particularly given the final arc. I also hope the environment changes, even though Japanese culture isn't big on strikes/making waves. It's a shame so many anime/manga put action scenes over a good story (Yu-Gi-Oh and 5ds were my first intros to that realization, sadly).
I like point 3... Sasuke just forgives Itachi just like that and turns his hatred towards the entire village instead of those in charge of it
Peace through Nuclear weapons that have limited lifespan
It's a pretty cool concept actually if you think about it, kind of similar to our real world.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt that is true but the lifespan of atomic fusion seems to be longer than human otherwise Czarnobyl wouldn't have a problem still
The "underdog" yet his father was the hokage, His mother was from a strong lost clan with high chakra reserves, The child of prophecy, Rencarnation of a demi-god.
Totally an underdog guys! Neji was right.
Shippuden ruined everything. Pain, madara & akatsuki can't even save it.
Part 1 Naruto was so good! Then yeah Shippuden was a disappointment looking back. There are some great things mixed in there, like the Pain fight (I much prefer Pain to Madara), but it's overshadowed by the bad stuff. Everything from the War Arc onwards I hated.
Its crazy how many ppl there are that completely misunderstand this show. You seem to think hes failed because hes perpetuating the system he promised to fix. I think a lil bit of critical thought completely negates this point tho. Like, the world in boruto is COMPLETELY changed compared to og/shippuden, no world wars, no villages vying for power, technology is advancing due to world peace, etc etc. The system clearly isnt being perpetuated, so i cant possibly see how he "failed" in any respect really, he accomplished literally everything he set out for, became hokage, be respected, ended war/hate, and saved his best friend. The only failure is the fact that they wanted to keep making money off of the brand so they made some shitty ending to the war arc just so theres someone to fight in boruto lmao.
Hey man, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I love talking about things like this.
To your point - I still think it's a false peace. Setting aside all the dumb stuff in Boruto and all the aliens (which I hate), I don't think there's peace in the world because of anything Naruto did, I think there's peace in spite of what Naruto did. I don't think there any any examples of significant, meaningful change or reform that he actually enacted? The cage bird seal is an example I mention in the video, but what other changes has he made to ensure there is a long-lasting effective peace? There are still disparate villages and the entire ninja system is still intact (children being trained up and prepared to fight as ninjas), even the other 2 village elders who colluded with Danzo don't face any consequences for their action. Even referencing Boruto for a moment, the Rain Village is in a really poor state, which is a massive slap in the face towards Nagato who entrusted Naruto with a promise of a better future.
Basically the institutions and system, which are the real problems, are all still in place and we don't see any changes to them. As I said in the video, after Naruto and Sasuke die what guarantee is there war won't break out again?
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt He enacted ALL of it by winning the war lmaoo. If he didnt win, there wouldnt have been a world to change. The whole reason he was fighting in the first place was to save his friend and eventually to solve world peace. And after he won, the world isnt in constant war anymore. Yes, there are things which you can point to that dont quite fit that narrative, but the overarching effects are still there. Like, i dont agree with the village elders going completely unpunished or the rain village stuff, but at that point, ur just looking at a couple different things and ignoring the big picture. The children being trained to be ninjas tho isnt necessarily a bad thing, they arent being sent on espionage or assassination missions, they're just being trained to control chakra (something every living thing has in the verse) and to defend themselves. And yes, you can say that after naruto, sasuke, and those that were moved by their philosophies are mostly gone, that the world might eventually fall back into war. But thats not really the point of the show, that in specific is more just a look at human nature in general. Its human nature to hate unfortunately, so if narutos wisdoms and philosophies didnt get passed down to everyone (which is bound to happen over time), then yes, world peace would more than likely end. But what could he POSSIBLY do to avoid that completely? ik narutos talk no jutsu's good, but im not sure he can do it to future generations lmao.
Definitely agree that there's a point to be made about it being human nature in general - the cycle of hatred/violence which doesn't end. Also a good point about everybody needing to learn to safely control chakra. But I think the problem with Naruto is he didn't even really try to solve the problem - I think the only reason the world isn't at constant war is because Naruto is alive and friends with everyone/overwhelmingly powerful, like if only one nation had a nuke and everybody else was kept in line because of them.
What I wanted to see was Naruto trying to solve the problem, rather than ignoring it. Winning the war to enforce world peace isn't really an answer in my eyes, as you said he was just fighting to save his friends and "save the world". But a Hokage Naruto should really be acting towards ensuring a longer term peace and change to the institutions, and he should be visibly doing so. But he seems completely content with the current state of institutions - which is the biggest problem with the ninja world in my opinion.
Even if he tried and failed, I think that'd be more satisfying for us to see as viewers. You mentioned yourself there's a few things you don't agree with, but I think that's the key thing. If you and I can agree on those things that need to be changed - why can't Naruto?
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt ur acting as if most of the world wants to go back to war the moment they can. Theyve made it a point multiple times to show that everyone is basically traumatized by the 4th great ninja war, no one would risk starting the cycle of hatred again. Rightfully so, as the world came incredibly close to ending. Even ppl that were evil to the core, like orochimaru, are content with the outcome. At least a few generations would have to pass before war and hate take hold again. As for the things we both agree could be done better, first off, the village elder thing can be chalked up to naruto ending the cycle of hatred through his method of forgiveness, which he demonstrates multiple times. Secondly, saying naruto outright failed because of a few nitpicks ab things he could have/can do better, is pretty ridiculous. Like i was sayin before, at that point, ur ignoring the big picture.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt can you suggest some changes naruto could make without making it too complicated for younger viewers?
definitely your points are solid, and it would make for a much more compelling show.
The thing is, you overestimate the author a bit too much.
The author has an amazing ability to craft compelling characters and their stories, world buiding, power systems, creative battles and stuff but his ability to make a coherent plot and dealing with more complex topics is rather limited (still acceptable but not as good compared to the great ones). Even the plot has so many contradictory holes as he continuouly retconed and made up plots on the go.
Even though some aspects of the show are dark, the politics portrayed in both Naruto and Boruto is really at bare bone basic level suitable for younger audience.
Or you can argue may be the target audience are young (shonen) so they are not ready to deal with complex political stuff.
So yeah, I agree Naruto in Boruto become a shadow of himself, I am really disappointed how they treated our beloved character. However, the points about him needing to be more politically active may go against the comprehesion depth the fanbase or audience possess.
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boruto is just straight up terrible. THey ruined our Naruto so bad.
Boruto is genuinely one of the worst sequels to anything ever made.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt Can you do My Hero Academy next? it has possibly one of the worst endings in manga history.
@@hungothanh4913 Haha I've been hearing lots about how bad it was, I actually tried MHA before and really didn't like it. Maybe now the series has finished I can speed read the manga and share my thoughts on it.
@@MediaRetrospective-sb2pt Yeah I kinda understand why you don't like it. I stop watching the anime at season 6 too. MHA starts strong with belovable main characters like All Might and Deku. The problem is the supporting characters are often not very interesting (especially class 1A - which I don't like for the most part) and many of the events in the story that centered around class 1A are quite boring- that why I stop watching. It is like seeing Naruto fillers except it's cannon. I like how powers in this world work, and Deku is a smart main character type who like using tatics in combat. Deku is one of my favaroite main characters, unfortunately, the supporting casts are just bad in general so really drag the whole experience down. And also, you can't easily skip those bad parts like in fillers, because it may contain some plot points, so it is a rough read. In many way, you can see Deku as a similar main characters to Naruto.
Howeve, at least Naruto got his dreams in the end, become basically a god of his world at the end of Shipuden. But what deku got for all his sacrifices to save the world is a poor lonely life: no power, no money, no love, no friend, hardly anyone respect or remember him. What is ridiculous is, the final fight was broadcasted, so everybody know how Deku saved them and they still choose to completely forget and ignore him. The begining of MHA is Deku saying "This is the story of how I became the greatest hero". The ending just slaps so hard at audience's face believing in the prologue.
@@hungothanh4913 Wow really that sounds like such a shame. I'm always left confused with endings like this to shows - do the authors not care for the world and characters they created? Sometimes it feels like they resent their own creations...or lost sight of their original vision. I don't know, it's sad though.