Passed Over By The Major Timber Industry This Log Had A Secret Under It's Bark: Curly Gold
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Nathan Elliott owns and operates Out of the Woods Forestry a Sawmill, Kiln and woodworking business. OTW is located in the Appalachian Mountain range of Northeast Tennessee. Nathan operates a Wood-Mizer sawmill used in conjunction with other tools to harvest timber from local woodlands and urban environments.
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You're bloody awesome Nathon. Your blood is worth bottling. Your music choice seems to always fit your vids. You have no idea how much influence you had on "I go Blind". That track was taken down by YT for this country, but was imeadiatly reposted by someone else. would love to hear you play sometime. cheers
A.Porter ..my evening always goes well with your videos!! Thanks
Well Done Nathan, good choice in tune, more rain in Tennessee, good for your garden,
bird's eye maple is the best for wood curls .. it is what is used most often and grows well ... just have to plant it is all where you are ... very dominant in Canada
tose horizontal bulges are weight curls .. the weight of the tree actually compresses the lower cells because it is a soft wood ... the compression then stiffens the base making it easier for the tree to withstand the elements ...
Once again, finding a new video on your channel has made my day. Now I can head out for a walk.
Glad to hear it!
It’s almost like you can see the younger version of the tree on the inside
On the Olympic Peninsula here in Washington, there's quite a few curly maples. They're often victims of poachers. Cut them in sizes popular for musical instruments.
your engine on the mill in this film looks like it has a bad mount to it the way it's rocking with the power applied.
Wonder how you can have sawmill nice tractor and other things....on cutting logs
hard work,
Are those structural cracks half way out from heartwood? Where in TN are you located? I'm in Middle TN.
This channel is addictive!
Seems like every log has a story to tell!!
An arborist once told me that the curl is caused by the tree growing in a location that subjects the tree to a great deal of wind. The curl is caused by the constant swaying of the tree.
An old logger/sawyer told me the same thing years ago.
Yes and is more prevalent in trees from ridgetops!
I could show you a piece of silver maple that affirms this!! It is the most unique piece of wood I have ever seen. It is a huge cookie slice ..and the removed bark left incredible wrinkles that resemble elephant or rhino skin! Such an incredible piece all from which way the tree grew and faced the wind over the years:) The arborest was correct! Pay him well:)
Is that the same as wind shook?
I'm amazed at how gently and precisely the guy with the grapple fingers lay logs on your trailer. What an artist.
yes good guy there,
Anyone who is an equipment operator worth their salt should know their machine inside and out.
Guys who operate these cranes can literally open beer bottles with the claws. I know it sounds ridiculous but I've seen it done and it made me respect the job in a whole new way.
Tim Timm ... I drove a block/brick grab lorry loader for years..
We used to have competition between drivers how high we could stack single bricks on top of each other..
It’s amazing how high we’d get them before they toppled over👍🏻👍🏻
And I’m just thinking he has more faith in that trailer than I would
Perfect end to the weekend out here in Amsterdam. You're a welcome oasis of sanity in this crazy world. Thank you for your efforts and extra work to get these videos filmed and edited. No doubt it would be much easier to chuck the whole RUclips enterprise (and I wouldn't blame you for a minute if you chose to do that), but, for selfish reasons, I sincerely hope you continue to make these amazing vidoes!
Thanks buddy appreciate you
I too... These are great... I never tire of seeing the planks exposed for the first time
Enjoyed the video. Beautiful wood. Who is playing that music in the video? Love the music too!
I had a beautiful curly maple dropped off in my load of firewood this past fall! Unfortunately I only found it when I started splitting up the stove length pieces!! I saved them for making knife handles and file and chisel handles. I just can't bring myself to burn them!
Nathan, where can I get some of the music you use? Especially the last song in the video. Awesome video, beautiful wood...being a guitarist, I've always obsessed over wood...gorgeous grain here...
Thanks for the videos. I like the background music too. Can you please post a link to the music or tell us who the band is. Thanks
Simply speaking, I like the wood, I like the music. Thank you.
Thanks for watching
I’m a 30+ year Cabinetmaker, I’ve been making a lot of paint grade cabinets for the last few years. We use soft maple for the hardwood. We get a few nice curly maple boards from time to time. I save them for a hobby woodworker He loves that curly and Birdseye maple.
Cabinetmaker here as well. Almost all my jobs for the past 3 years have all been paint grade. Did a rift oak kitchen for a fella last year. Everyone wants a white or grey kitchen.
@@07negative56 That will change with fashion. I remember when everybody wanted pine kitchens and the more defects in the wood the better they liked it. A few years before that you couldn't barely give away pine kitchen furniture, nobody wanted it.
Why do I find these log cutting videos so freaking satisfying ?
Beautiful lumber. Curly maple or tiger maple is found in both hard (sugar maple) and soft (red maple). My understanding is, it is caused by stress. The more curl the more money it is worth. Its used a lot for making instruments like guitars and violins. A method of dyeing the wood instead of staining brings out the rays better. Since I live in the northeast, many home lumber mills cut maple. I built my whole kitchen using tiger maple. Keep up the good work.
Thanks buddy
Beautiful slabs! I appreciated your description of curl and its cause.
Thanks for watching 👍
Appreciate your support
He is absolutely correct Nathan! You take great care and cause to educate and enlighten us with Your experience!
We greatly appreciate that effort!
when you dumped the water on it , it did bring a smile to my face.
Along time ago I was walking through some old growth hard woods. I saw a big old tree with knots and switches all over it. I thought "that is the ugliest tree that I have ever seen". I found out later that it was probably the most valuable tree that I had ever really looked at.
I was told that curl happens in large, older trees that have so much so much weight in the crown that it causes the trunk to buckle. As you said, this was soft maple with a lot of water in it. I wonder if you can get similar curl in willow for example.
interesting that sounds like a good theory, thanks for sharing,
The name of the last song at the end of the video?- cant seem to find it in the description- thanks
Would LOVE to get this music at the end! Gorgeous tree!
Beautiful log. My grandfather was a timber cruiser here in Michigan, back in the day. He said that curly, birdseye and tiger maple were very valuable. Part of his job was to mark them for the loggers who would follow. He passed away in 1950.
I'd love a quarter sawn slab for fiddle backs.
yes good use,
beautiful. i just got some small sections of heavily curly ambrosia maple cut and drying. I have a small turkey call business. gorgeous stuff. the stripes are kind of holographic with the direction of light.
Sounds great!
Curly maple turkey call? You just peaked my interest. How can I get more info?
@@darrelllogan1274 go to "Wynnco Turkey Calls" on Facebook to see my work. I have a beautiful curly ambrosia maple slate call that hasnt sold yet. Message me on there and I'll send you some photos of call and possibly make a deal. All hand made not cnc. I'm very reasonable too. 100% satisfaction rate on Ebay on over 200 sold throughout 49 states. Ha. Hit me up. Thx
Great looking timber, Please keep the video's coming 😉👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
I believe you are right when you say that maple is the "king of curl", at least as long as we are talking the northern hemisphere. But there are some Australian timbers that can come with spectacular curl (or "fiddleback" as the Aussies say) as well; Tasmanian Blackwood (related to Hawaiian Koa, looks very similar), various Eucalyptus species (like Red Gum and Mountain "Ash") and last but not least, Camphor Laurel (an invasive species originally from south east Asia). Google "fiddleback" and the species name and you'll see what I mean ...
I love this channel by the way. Down to earth stuff in a crazy world.
That would have to be one of the nicest Maples i have seen , I can see it now in a butterfly grand table , it would be awesome ,
Yes sir !
Hello Brother Nathan! Whenever life gets a little to hectic I watch one of your videos and stress goes away!How many acres is your property? Mike B Long Island NY!
thanks Michael, not as much as I want but more than I can take care of,
appreciate you watching,
That's a beautiful tree!!! I wish I was closer I would love to get a slab.
Be interesting to know what happened that year to cause the two distinct, darker lines that run 4-5” in from the edge.
I saw that too. My guess is a fire.
I agree with the fire
Lucky to see a handful of logs like that in a miller's life beautiful
Looks like some perfect Maplewood for a Luthier!!!
FYI. Not everyone who watches your channel / video's is a wood-worker. I'm a 20 plus yr's CAD-Designer, metal fabricator, welder (50 yr's plus and still welding). I don't play with dead tree carcasses. And no desire to play with dead trees. But you always keep me interested, can't tell you why, but you do. Thanks for sharing. Now, if I could weld wood (don't insult me and say you can glue it) like steel, maybe I'd start to play with those dead trees. Stay safe, and don't forget to feed the kitties. Hello from the pacific northwest, 50 miles north of the SAN-FRAN-FREAK-O, (formerly known as Seattle,) of the north.
Hey. Still enjoy your videos. One quick idea that popped into my head while watching your whole "curl" comments.
I know you talk about figure and crotch wood, but it would be good to follow the path from log, to slab, to dry, to artisan (cabinet maker, furniture maker, artist) to final product.
All that nice curl in the maple going into an instrument would be a fascinating video.
GUITARS !!! Sorry , Guitar guy here
That was one piece of beautiful timber I wish we could get that here in Australia I really enjoy watching your videos and you do try and teach people how to mill timber Keep doing what you’re doing mate well done
I'm a new subscriber... LOVE your videos.... Great set up you have and I love the cats roaming everywhere.... How much would you pay for a log like that... Your channel makes me want to start a sawmill here in Georgia....
Not to question you abilities.....but those "skim" cuts seemed to be a tidge thick.Being a woodworker and secretly lusting (please don't tell my wife) those curly maple boards....I could probably make something of those thick skim boards......
Very lovely slabs that you had time to show us Nathan. As always , a very informative & eye catching video, so easy to watch. Cheers, Don from South Australia.
Wow - just wow - I worked for a major cabinetry company in Pa and we fought hard to find curly soft and hard maple - BRAVO to you for getting it 😃❤❤
Most of it isnt even separated into its own grade because there isnt an actual “grade” for it. It can be marked however, for modern sorter lines to drop it in its own grade by length. But few have the capacity for another grade. (grade x 6 lengths + wide premiums in each length = 12 extra bays per line when sawing single species. It almost has to be pulled and hand stacked from storage lines and green chains.
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Curl birdseye all that stuff is a defect. So none of with make grade and what he was cutting there is just regular soft maple There was no curl at all
I'm a HVAC tech, a computer geek, why the heck am I spending hours watching this channel?!!!! Well... my dad did give me a love for the woods and tried to teach me trees. I can ID the easy ones. Sumac, Locust, Poplar, Oak, Maple, Walnut. Seen a shag bark hickory on a customers property, had to ask him what it was. Dad showed me a gigantic elm tree up on the power plant hill, that he said might be the last one for miles since the Dutch elm disease killed them off around here. . BTW You ever deal with burl?
On our Bigleaf maple (Acer macrophyllum) here in the Pacific Northwest, the bumpy texture is sometime visible even in the bark. Knock the bark of a log and you'll know that a likely prize of "curly"* maple resides in the wood's interior if the outer surface looks like the thigh of a fat woman with really severe cellulite.
* I grew up knowing the grain pattern as "fiddleback." However, I have also heard it referred to as "quilted" and "tiger stripe." I believe that all the terms describe the same grain structure, but suspect that "curly" and "quilted" are more representative of flat-sawn examples. Whereas, "tiger stripe" and "fiddleback" are typical of quarter-sawn wood. I'd be interested in your evaluation of my thoughts on that subject Nathan.
Great find! Awesome video!
btw....Billy Gibbons would be having serious doppleganger vibes if he ever saw this video.
Hey Nathan, really enjoy everything you post. I realise (UK sp. LoL) that filming and editing must take a lot of effort but is there any chance you could include the title and/or artist of the music that you include in your videos. As well as video content I really enjoy your choice of music. Regards from Wales UK.
That is some beautiful wood. Thank you for sharing this video with us..
Thanks buddy
I work at a sawmill we primarily cut maple I love watching the logs get cut you never know what you'll see inside. Soft maple has a very high chance of curly its beautiful. Not sure if you have ever got the chance to cut bark pocket maple it's my favorite.
My father. Who was a 41 year wood shop teacher and master furniture maker. Always said curl in wood is caused my the tree naturally moving through its life. Either from it having to grow different from one year to the next due to changes in the light it receives. A tree around it may have been cut and allowed this tree to grow differently toward the new light. Or from wind constantly flexing the tree and days off heavy snow which make the tree move differently. Basically it all changes the way the fibers would normally run. Which should be true and straight.
crepe myrtle is almost always curly. Its a nice off white/yellowish and lustrous, fine grained wood with loads of curl. Only a few varieties get big enough to make lumber, and not real big. Smells funny when green sawn, like weeds being mowed. IF you can find an arborist cutting a big one down here in the South, you can get some nice lumber. The lavender colored flower variety is the one that gets big.
Do you make guitar body blanks for electric guitar . The wood can't have cracks or warp. Has to be dried and interestingly figured
In my opinion there's really nice looking wood and then there's maple. Thanks for the great videos for us to watch and learn from
Thanks 👍
I'm a city guy who does termite inspection. I love inspecting hundred year old house, just to see the wood in the sub area and attic. It just amazias me the beauty of nature. But that last board at 18:31, was one of the most beautiful things ever.
WOWZERS! What a secret that was. This log yielded some beautifully figured boards!
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Man, I'd dial up your videos just to listen to intro music like this! Way cool! Can you tell I used to play in a country rock band?
Looking at 16:38 there are lines running down both sides about 4-5 inches from each edge, with some dark spots. Wondering if this tree survived a forest fire half way through life or maybe a disease year or something? How old do you figure this tree to be?
Curly is sought after by people that want curly figure. In the lumber business most customers do not appreciate curly figure whatsoever, and go as far to spec the order to that effect.
Great looking log - don't see them very often. Thank you for the video - stay safe and I'll be looking for the next video. 'Spin'
Thanks buddy
Is it true you have to cut maple a certain way to get the curly?
I don't think so, if it is true curly it should reveal it no matter the way you saw it,
@@OutoftheWoods0623 In my experience with gun stocks, the curl will show up best in quarter-sawn slabs.
Oh, that is beautiful. Now what kinds of uses would a piece like that have? Cabinet making? Musical instruments?
They would kill for that log at the cabinetry place I worked at - I matched a lot of maple Soft and Hard and always amazed people how I could tell the difference between the two - it's in the eye 😁
I'm a lumberjack by trade that's what I do for a living Live oaks I curves in it too so I know what you're talking about awesome video keep it up.
OMG!!! It looked like a ghost tree within a tree. Very cool looking
great video!
I have 9 pcs of maple furniture I inherited from my mother. It will all be beautiful a hundred years from now😎
I see a nice black powder Muzzle Loader standing right there...LOL
Is the curl also called fiddle back. I hear it’s caused by a tree that is growing on an angle and is around a lot of wind? I don’t know. Pretty nice looking wood
I hope these old trees are substituted 1:1 of the same kind by the tree harvesting industry.
Not in Canada. They replace old growth with monoculture crap designed to be harvested for pulp. Nothing changes, because industry owns the politicians.
@@SirLionofBiff That was my concern. It's somewhat hard to find joy in watching such beautiful materials when they represents a kind of rape.
Hadee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks as though at sometime in thst tree's life it was subjected to fire, judging from those lines about 3 inches out from the center of that sl as b.
Shame about the post, but you salvaged usable material for repurposing. A good lesson for us all.
THANKS NATHAN I FIND YOUR VIDEO VERY EDUCATIONAL.
NOT LIKE THE OTHER WOODMISER VIDEO WITH EYE CANDIE AND
PROMOS.
Man I really enjoy your videos...the music is just perfect..ty
What is your song/music at the end of this video? I love it! Great work.
That would make a gorgeous long table!!
Elm used to be used for wagon toungs because becouse it was curly and therefore could not break to a sharp point and cut the horses.
How do the people that sell logs price them? Is price based on weight or volume? How much does a log like the maple log in this video cost?
Nathan, are those bark inclusion lines between the heart and the sap wood, or what is it? Thanks!
Those destinctive quarter lines the length of the slabs very different.
Nathan, I could easily be wrong. Please do not read my comment as I know exactly what I am talking about. You could easily disprove this theory because you have worked with it much more? You know how internet experts go? So, have you ever came across Maple with wind shake? What I have seen, Maple doesn't develop "shake?" It twists instead, and creates that "curly" figuring?
not sure, good question though, that's a good topic for discussion for a future video,
How can I show you the best example of how the weather affects a tree ? Not sure, but would be a perfect example
Got to love the curly wood. We see alot of it in Paxific Madrone but not in the soft maple. Nice mill. I have thought about getting a new one but we have had our LT40HD since 92. I'm kinda partial to it.
sounds like a great old machine!
They must have thinned the stand or something mid way in that tree's life. all the sudden the broken branches stopped and the growth got regular.
Really learning a lot! I hope to be sawing logs like this some day. Really appreciate all the great education and explanations you provide. Cheers!!
Awesome 👍👍
I,too appreciate the tips,bits of information. Been sawing several years..had an episode of prostate cancer last Oct...thought I might not be able to do all I wanted to..you have been an absolute encouragement to this old retired meat cutter! Back cutting again & back in my woodshop,too. Cancer free!!!
I found the name of the last song on this video- mwaa haha. Mwaa hahahaha
Please share?
@@jnooney8225 ghost of the rail
What is the name of the album of background music being played?
Album: Rambles
Artist: Hunter Quinn
Song: Five Tribes
Album Playlist Link: ruclips.net/p/OLAK5uy_kx3gjGuxXSnsymQIp0rBcnYXF_Gs4P-eQ
@@flannel872 thanks a lot.
@@piuvbn You're welcome.
Flame maple (tiger maple), also known as flamed maple, curly maple, ripple maple, fiddleback or tiger stripe, is one of my favorite woods .... right behind birdseye maple, which I've bent to make the hoop, as well as handle inserts - on trout fishing nets. An old acquaintance of my dad made Kentucky long rifles, and I recall one of them having a beautiful stock made from tiger maple - truly a work of art. Thanks for posting .... take care. Adding this article about recovered logs in Lake Superior: www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/underwater-logging-zmaz98onzraw. From this article you will be able to research more articles should you like to. I just happen to be living in the U.P. of Michigan at the time and remembered the discovery.
Thanks 👍
I really like your music on the video, what is the name of the musician?
I dont know who sharpens and sets your blades but that washboard is ugly unless you are using that blade to long
Beauty hides in many unexpected places.
It takes an artist to find it and release it.
You are an artist with a sawmill, releasing the beauty trapped in the wood for all to see.
thank you,
I jave never seen one that curly all the way thru like that it beautiful.I wish I had a solid piece to make a guitar body out of it!
Looks like beautiful slabs. In the video, to me the curl is most apparent in the darker heartwood. Stay safe and well.
Thanks buddy
Very nice! I love curly maple
Thanks buddy
I audibly gasped when you showed the second slab. You found a tree within another tree, the figure alone is a work of art. Congrats, you found a $20,000 log.
thank you,
Have you ever thought of expanding? Maybe getting a drum sander and/or other finishing equipment?
Yes
Being a guitar guy ...I see many beautiful guitars
I find it amazing that you can just look at a piece of wood like that and say what you can get out of it. I also find your enthusiasm amazing too. I’ve never watched videos like this before so it’s a great thing to see.
It's kinda like riding a bike or learning a new skill. Once you have done it for a while, it becomes second nature. I have friends and I'm sure Nathan is the same way, that can look at the bark of a log and tell exactly what it is. Do it enough times and you just know.
The music that you used for the opening and closing tracks made me think I clicked on the wrong vid. I've noticed you have used a few times previously also. Shawn James has been using it on everyone of his videos for over a year, possibly two. His channel is called "My Self Reliance". It just sounds wrong to hear it on your vids. It is a good sound track and I can see why you like it. Regards......Rick.
Would you happen to know the name of the last song on this video? I would appreciate it much
Hello Nathan! Sure do appreciate your sawing terms with explanation along with the soothing music and exposing God's beauty and creation. It behooves me how some just don't believe...
Thanks buddy
My friend, the answer lies in Romans 1.
That put the hurt on the trailer
yep, heavy timber,
Thinking about you on Friday... driving between Marion and Kokomo Indiana... they were clearing timber between two farm fields and stacking large logs. As we passed I saw they loading a few on a trailer like yours.. take care sir.
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