Harley Davidson 4 Hole Oil Change.
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- Let's talk about how to change the oil in your Harley Davidson motorcycle - anyone can do this without going to a mechanic. Everyone talks about a 3 hole oil change BUT it's the "often not talked about" 4th hole that gets people unstuck - put the wrong oil in this hole and it's a disaster.
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Pretty handy there mate! Han's grandfather downs a teaspoon of olive oil a day when he gets up and lives on a Mediterranean diet .....He's 81 and still works fulltime as a commercial concreter 😃
Wow that's a hard job, especially at 81
Sounds like a bloke I know here in Perth (Western Australia) ... 79 years old, super fit, strong as an ox, tougher than tough and won't quit working doing medium grano jobs. He told me if he quit the hard yakka, he'd lose the momentum of being able to do the work. He does have one or two vices though, so he won't die rich. He'll never be forgotten for what a hard worker he is. Thumbs up to all the hard working mostly European migrants who helped build what we enjoy today. And their mothers & wives who fed them good food!
Big 👍! Olive oil, Avocado oil, butter and lard. Wasn't expecting this to be the 4th hole!
I have used HD oil exclusively. I put an extra quart in the oil tank of my Sportster. I have had my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on the original engine and 37 back tires and 17 front ones and 3 belts in 25 years.
Having worked on my bikes since I was 10yrs old this is the first bike I have left the servicing up to the dealership and yes they have a great coffee machine great insight on the fourth hole always great information in these videos Mango
I made the same switch from using Syn3 for all 3 holes to using HD Heavy Synthetic Gear oil for the primary and transmission….a friend who is also a MC mechanic uses it exclusively, so good enough for me, and so far, happy with it.
Thanks
I liked the gear oil in the trans, but it made my gear changes harder when I used it in the primary. Neutral was defi harder.
That's a great workshop hoist you have Aymen, especially having extenders to make it wider.
I added a pair of side rails to my Harbor Freight lift, no more fear of pitching left or right while mounting or leaving the lift.
Yep its a good one, makes a huge difference. I got the side rails so i could ride on, i was too chicken to try and push the bike up. (Hero hoists in NSW.)
I've used Amsoil since 1980 and in every and in my Harley's from 1994 on. The reason I stick with Amsoil is it holds up much better than other oils I've tested when sending oils in for lab tests. And as with all my vehicles I change the oil every 3000 miles some will disagree with this BUT here's my reason for doing oil changes more frequently... oil is cheap engines are not. I believe this is the reason why my 1994 Road King which I still have went 141,000 miles before I decided to rebuild the engine and take it from an 80 cu in to a 95 cu in motor. Also, just a suggestion, you might find it easier to purchase a lab quality plastic pitcher to measure more accurately the amount of oil you want to put into your bike. I find this is a faster way rather than pour a little and look at the bottle marks, pour a little more look at the marks. I just fill to the level I need into the pitcher and then pour that exact amount into the hole, easy peasy lemon sqeezy. Another great informative video.
Thanks I have been wanting to try amsoil, it just not readily available here. I'll have to get it posted. Good idea re the pitcher to measure
Amsoil was the oil that my feeble research found to be the best, unfortunately it's rarer than rocking horse poo here in Tasmania, also strongly agree with more frequent oil changes, I put well over 250k km's on my last bike, and I attribute that, to quality oil, changed more often
Enjoyed the video. You made me laugh with the comment about seed oil and business men. "What are we going to do with our crap? Feed it to people...and make them pay" Funny but so true!
lol
Thank you uncle Aymen ! Another informative video and I only use non seed oil in my 4th hole !! My mechanic sorts out the rest !! Thank you for the reminder however 😊
Lol thanks for watching Karyn
Spot on about the seed oils. Avoid them and all factory processed foods.
Thanks
Two tips to add to this. 1. For those who may not be aware, the derby cover screws are a T27, not a T25. most torx drive kits dont include the 27, so you will need to invest in a good quality one. The 25 fits, but is sloppy in the fit. It will work, but will eventually flog out those screws. 2. Before removing the filter, put the funnel in place and gently punch a small hole in the lowest point, using a long sharp punch or nail (often supplied with the amazon/ ebay funnel kits. This allows the oil in the filter to drain out and makes much less mess.
Thanks great tip re punching the hole. re the torx bit - i was using a T27 and this is mention twice in the video.
@@OldNotDead-Club Bugger, I missed that....twice!
Great video as usual - and a most excellent PSA!
Thank you
Love your balanced approach to riding and overall health! Ride on!
Thank you
Great work mate. Loving the advice in keeping your bike & yourself healthy.
thanks again Aaron
Great video mate....good explanation! Always good to know a little about one's bike by doing the basics and also a boost to one's confidence, knowing you've done some work on it yourself. 😎
Thanks again
Thanks Aymen! Love the Video’s keep’m coming
Thanks for watching
Enjoying the health info for ourselves as well. Loving the content & vids!
Thanks, loving the gear from your company!
Thanks for the video! Your a good man for continuing to work in a little heath advise in on your motorcycle content. As far as motorcycle oil I am sure as long as you buy the major brands it all good I have used Harleys oil and Amsoil. Brake fluid service is a important flush also. As far as that 4 hole like oil changes then need serviced on or at a specific time frame, intermittent fasting to me is key 2 meals a day around a 16 hour fast and the most important thing keeping moving! Ride safe!
You're totally right with what you say regarding a motorcycle being more personal. I've always purged the engine oil by pumping it through to the return tank. I generally get 700mls of the old dirty oil out and pump until the new oil shows. As well as adjusting the clutch when doing the primary oil change. Great content though and love the channel.
Nice lead-in had me wondering about that fourth hole,great advive
Thanks 👍
Good analogy re oil in you and your bike . Great video thanks
Thanks for watching
I was never happy with the gear changes in my M8 Low Rider. Neutral was hard to find, especially when the motor was hot, gear changes were not always smooth, and down shifting during spirited riding was not always that great. All services were done by the dealer during the warranty period and they used Syn3 in all 3 holes. Once the bike was out of warranty I did the 3 hole oil change but decided to use Red Line V-Twin Transmission Oil in the gear box. You can believe it when I say what an improvement to the gear changes, neutral became easy to find and the whole box and dice in the transmission/gear changes became almost buttery smooth - well at least compared to the way it was before.
Great vid, doing anything yourself is always good for a mans soul.
Was using Penrite V-twin in my Slim works great, scored Harley Syn 3 & the HD gear oil free to go in next change & shot glass Olive oil in 4th hole every morning for this higher mile unit.. 💪🏼
I use Amsoil on my bike and it’s the best oil out there,IMO,I’ve heard HD oil is great too but I’m gonna stay with Amsoil,Thanks for the video
Amsoil or H-D brand oil are the only brands I use. I used to just use Syn3 as you only had to carry 1 extra quart to have extra oil for all three holes. Now the H-D heavy duty gear oil goes in my trans and primary. And YES I definitely notice a difference in the trans with shifting. (2017 Road Glide Special). I have personally found that Amsoil for the regular oil tends to hold up better and last longer than the Syn3. Not near as dark after 3,000 miles.
Some people use teflon tape on the threads of the plugs. I find that if you torque it properly you don’t have to worry about it.
you can use Amsoil motor oil in all 3 holes.
I use Lucas 20-50 Dinosaur oil in my Evo, and Royal Purple in the tranny...and Lucas primary oil.
As a lady ,I learn something,my partner,old man,uses four different oil on his Harley Davidson,and yet he served me and I only get the same oil on my two holes,😂😂,Well ladies we are being short change, good video,just a dig in ribs,haha😅❤
Lol, thanks for watching
Good video thanks.
Thanks for watching
Great vid Aymen, I was waiting with anticipation for the 4th hole, lol.
Fantastic... top advice as always.
Real butter & olive oil for me.
Not only what goes in, I like to take care of what comes out 💕
Lol way to go, thanks for watching
@@OldNotDead-Club 💖🌟
@@clairebelle8389
Hahahah,
i am only 10 Mins into Vid, paused to Peruse Comments, have already read Lotsa stuff about ' olive oil' had me ruined and confused =
I suspect I know what the '4th hole' on my Bike is Now but....
Agreed !
Cheers and Onya Mate
Agreed about seed oils....I used to use grapeseed oil or avocado oil....but, 2 1/2 months ago I swtiched to a carnivore diet and use beef and prok fat and butter....since then I have lost 60 lbs and feel great.....and I am 72. Oh, and still riding an evo FXDL.
Awesome well done
I have used Penrite for 35 years on all my cars bikes and have absolutely no complaints, with engines doing over 300 thousand ks
Many will agree with you, top brand
Cracking Video uncle Aymen 😜👍😊
Lol
Hi Aymen, thinking about getting a road king, coming off VStar 1300. What are your thoughts on the differing motors as far as reliabilty/ease of maintenance? IE the old 80, TC 88, 96 or 103 etc.
Enjoying your channel, thanks.
Cheers
Shane
The 4th hole got me, that is why I watched the video. Yes to the fourth hole I am carnivore beef, bacon, butter, eggs.
Awesome way to eat
The sealant is called plumber’s tape or pipe seal or thread seal
Yeah I couldn't think of it at the time
The main thing about engine oil, is. Using the correct weight, the weight that's recommended by the manufacture. The reason why? The weight of the oil is directly correlated to the accuracy of the design and the build quality of the inside of the engine. the weight of the oil directly corresponds to how far apart the internal parts need to be kept away from each other so an engine that uses a lighter weight boil is made to a higher degree of accuracy, both in the polishing and the roundness of the shafts and bearings, etc., and thereby can use a thinner oil, which allows the pieces to be closer together. This is why you don't mess around with the recommended weights of the oil. And on the back end of this other than the weight of the oil use whatever oil you want to use just change it early with the filter.
Thanks thats pretty much what I do
For the engine Oil I just use 20W/50.. I have Mates that use and recommend 50W straight ?
My understanding is its all down to operating and ambient Temperature..
I'm in Perth, it never gets real cold, so I do Not use eg = a 10W/40 ( thinner ) engine oil. It does however get Real hot lots.... A '95 Dyna here, 10W/15 in the Primary, and 85W/90 in the Gearbox, lots and regular oil changes, 20 Years i owned it and 200,000k's, still goes Great no Problemmo !
@@OldNotDead-Clubthe best thing you can do with a HD is let it warm up all the way before riding it. I just watched a video with a group of HD techs who stated there is "lots of forgiveness" built in to the engine, "the parts are not even fitting together, nor are the actually round until it gets to operating temp.". Which is all true about an air cooled engine. And even though it may be oiled or partially water cooled it's still an air cooled engine, and internally it's designed as such.
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Great video. My bike actually has a fourth hole in that I recently installed an Oil Bud oil cooler that fits up in between the frame on my softail. It has a drain plug. I highly recommend it for lowering oil temp in hot weather and stop and go traffic. Check them out.
I like your take on seed oils. In the States it’s amazing how little food is available that doesn’t contain seed oils or high fructose corn syrup. Being recently diagnosed with type two diabetes I have started to eliminate those things from my diet, I feel better and have lost 40 lbs just by watching those two items.
Yep it really does make an amazing difference, well done
I just discovered that seed/veg oil also contributes to fatty liver and margarine is linked to dementia. Nice vid Aymen 👌🏻
Thanks mate
I always used to service my bikes, and was going to change the oil on my Dyna Fat Bob every 4K km's (half service), but ended up getting it serviced all round with Synth3, and noticed the difference straight away , the bike just seems to run better, and shifts easier. I tried researching which oil was best for my baby, the synth came out okay, there was another brand that seemed to be the best, but I couldn't get it easily here in Tas, and the way it runs now, I won't bother changing it
You got me on this one. I was trying to guess the 4th hole you were talking about. Mouth was not on my list😂. Been using Avocado and EV Olive oil for years at home. That and real butter. There are even brands of off the shelf products at the stores that are using these oils now. More expensive but worth it. Good public service announcement.
Lol thanks for watching
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Big thumbs up for the channel...
Big thanks
on mine i open the drain and let it drip for bout an hour, I use something known as a Scavenger, when you take off the oil filter you put on this puck and disconnect the return line, put on a tube then put in 3 quarts of new oil, run the engine until the return flow is clean, then reinstall the return pipe to the oil tank, add oil to the line, take the puck off, i have a oil filter cooler that has a 5 micron screen, no need for a reg oil filter. just clean it, let it dry put back on and your ready to ride. the Scavenger removes all the dirty left over oil from the engine. and the new oil stays cleaner a lot longer.
Totally agree 👍🏻 100% carnivore. If it never had a pulse don't eat it ,great video mate
Thanks 👍
I have good service with Lucas full synthetic and K&N filters with a half quart of Lucas additive in the engine. It tastes great, too!
Lucas 20w50 full synthetic motorcycle oil in all 3 holes, I use it because of the good reviews from racing teams that say it holds up better than anything else, like you going to try the Lucas transmission oil just to see if its any better but the 20w-50 works fine.
I use synthetic v-twin 20w50 in the engine primary gear oil in the primary and 85-120w in the transmission, this can fluctuate. Now I'm switching to lard, thanks 😊
lol thanks for watching
Had a 2019 streetglide with 79,000 mile on it when traded in on 2024 streetglide i used tech 20x50 full synthetic oil. No issues and ran great used 75x140 gear oil in trans. Doing same with new bike.
I've always used the HD gear and Primary oil,and Syn 20/50..in engine ✌️,,Better shifts better protection..just piece of mind ,no arguments..💯
Thanks
HD formula + for primary and tranny is the best!!! I’ve used it for so many years and so many bikes. People try to reinvent the wheel better than the one who created it. There might be a better oil but formula + will guarantee your primary and transmission for the life of the bike that’s the most important thing. But hey we all like spending money and getting sucked in to the oil factor. For engine though I’ve always used Spectro Heavy Duty 20w-50 Mineral
What cam you got in your ride? Sounds pretty radical.
s and s 475 great sounding lumpy cam, lol for an M8
I either use spectro or belray oil and the specific ones made for the 3 holes
I've heard great things about both oils
Been using Castrol 20w50 full synthetic V-twin oil in engine and primary, Pennzoil 75-140 synthetic gear lube in trans. I'm open to suggestions on what might be better, not dedicated to this set-up. Watched a lot of vids on oils and opinions are all over the place. Never heard anyone say anything bad about the castrol or Pennzoil so i use them.
Depends on the Year of Bike.. Yep later models ( twin-can or Mill-8 ) may use/need Synthetics, Evo and prior are Happy with old-school Minerol Oils but. I have an Evo, recommended is NOT use synthetics in Primary as can cause clutch-slippage... I use 20W/50 in engine, 85W/90 in gearbox. and 10W/15 in Primary .. Amsoil is the Best, I like pennzoil or penrite myself, but any main-stream ( like Castrol ) is great. Just avoid the cheap-sh!te, change it all regularly and Sooner than book-service recommendations helps for extended engine Life. NB - i pay $50 for 5 litres of 20W/50 Valvoline Oil, Amsoil is $80 for 4 Litres, its Like pouring money down-the-drain for Amsoil.. If oil smells burnt and is black in colour, then best change it Sooner !
Good Luck Mate
@@bluddyrowdy8757 Thanks very much for the informative reply!
Oil brand doesn't matter 1/10th as much as how often you change it. Any decent oil that meets Harley standards changed often enough is good oil.
You are probably right
ive used amsoil in both my bikes 20/50 in engine primary oil in primary transmission oil in trans.with amsoil ive seen less and less material on magnets every oil change.i also use k&n oil filters
Mobile 1 is in the engine, Valvoline 70/140 synthetic in the gear box, Harley syn 3 in the primary.
I use AMSOIL, great oil!
Thanks I've been meaning to try it, difficult to get here
I am using Syn 3 for the engine, 80W140 for gearbox and primary. Outside any warranty, I would go for fully synthtic oil for the engine (e.g., Amsoil 20W50), and definitely Castrol GTX 75W140 for the gearbox and in the primary.... nuthen else
Virgin olive oil, lard, butter and Avocado oil for the 4th hole. Amsoil for the Harley.
Thanks
Engine Oil change - great Funnel Mate , never Seen before - I have a piece of plastic cut out of the side of an oil bottle works..
Here is a Simple Tip but = Drop sump Oil, thread-tape plug and re-fit, then REFILL tank w/oil..... remove oil-filter, using that funnel run/start engine ( no oil-Filter but with funnel ) until oil pumping out runs clear ! Do NOT rev engine, o'wise it shoots out fer metres away, just idle is Good... I do this every time and it has Never run 'clear' but....... so just run engine for approx 1 minute or until approx 1 litre has passed thru engine. Shut-it-down, smear new filter gasket with oil, there is No point attempting to fill filter with New Oil, its mounted sideways so will just fall-out anyways....... Put some oil back in tank, start and run whilst inspecting for Leaks, check dip-stick and add more as required.. Now go for a quick ride ( like 5-10k's ). Allow bike to cool-off ( like overnight ) and re-check dip-stick and add more oil as required. Intent here is to Remove ' old-oil' from engine, that can and will contaminate New Oil just added......
Onya Aussie !
Been putting 20 50 mineral oil on both my Harleys, never have had any issues, 85 Electra Glide, 04 Dyna Wide Glide.
After many years of researching I find Spectro Platinum is the best oil to use on a Harley...
I have to do my oil changes in the driveway, no garage, but I get cheap plastic table cloths and put them under the bike, no mess ,no fuss
Hi great vid oils the blood of the engine
I use castrol 20 50 synthetic in the engine and primary and same as you in the gearbox. As for the 4th niver use seed oils that's another thing government's told us was good for us and definitely isn't you ride safe stay free
Ahh, the PIE HOLE. When you change oil so often on your bike does it really matter guys. I have put near 100K miles on two different Harleys. Always just used good 20-50 weight, brand name synthetic and change it 4500-6000 Miles.
27 Torx, not the 25 on the derby screws! Teflon tape and new oring on the plug.
I was using a 27torx, you are probably right re the oil
Amsoil engine, redline heavy shockproof in transmission, redline or Lucas primary oil.
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Beef, butter, bacon and eggs.
Yes!!
Ha, and here I was thinking that #4 was fork oil .... Nuff said for that, eh.
Lol
I was punting on Brake Fluid here
Both ( all ) are Important Too tho
So what do you cook chips in then?
if i was going to cook chips it would be in saturated fat - that's a whole other subject because fat and carbs like chips don't mix
Avocado, olive and coconut oils in our home for about 10 years now!!!
AGREED BRO
Thanks
EVOO for me Aymen ✊🏽
....and there was me hoping the 4th hole would be the forks 🙄
Lol
I only recently changed the oil in my Ultra and i used Penrite MC-4 V Twin Motorcycle Oil.... 20w 50 full synthetic and the engine is so much quieter than before, grabbed the K&N oil filter as i liked the 17mm nut head that is part of the filter..
Thanks I have heard good things about both
I only put scram 🦅 only
Thanks (lol took a while to work out what you were saying)
Servicing the bike myself means I know the jobs been done properly. (Spectro Oils)
True, thank you
My Vulcan Voyager uses 10w-40 full synthetic, but as she has almost 100klms on her, I have just changed over to 20w-50 full synth. Im lucky on the Kawasaki, only 2 holes lol
Lol that speeds things up
@@OldNotDead-Club crazy part, I was doing an oil change and went to ytube while it was draining, and who did I see lol
@@ericshingles lol
My bike is my Iron Horse! I do spend more time on it than my Ford Raptor!
Dripping lard butter for this black duck🥩🥓
Way to go
So right 👍🏻🇨🇦
Thanks
Great video! Very interesting that you mentioned vegetable oil. I’ve been researching this over the past few weeks. I’m going to the carnivore diet. Great info can be found in the RUclips channel called Low Carb Down Under and Dr. Ken Berry’s channel about the proper human diet.
Hi Jim, I made the 'adjustement' in the last year ... will never eat bread, rice, potatos or pasta again. No biscuits, cakes or sweets/lollies/candy (region dependent words). I love my PORTERHOUSE steak (2 pieces nicely done in the air fryer), plus some veggies (eg, a tomato, a few beans/peas & beetroot) and possibly a hard boiled egg. Preparation & washing up is minimal (one plate, a fork and a knife). Despite the cost of the steak, it's still way cheaper than what some people spend on a takeaway that's got all the things that I prefer to avoid. If I'm home during the day, instead of steak, I'll cook a large beef pattie in the air fryer, and have that with a hard boiled egg. After dinner at night, instead of eating chocolate, I'll have a few Kalamata olives which seems gives me a really calm sleep at night (maybe there's a 'placebo' factor there). Sometimes I feel like taking a mini barbeque and some steak with me when I'm out on the Harley Davidson, and stopping somewhere for a roadside steak dinner!
Nice catch.... Thanks.. Jesus Christ of Nazareth Bless you and yours...
Thanks, you too!
I was always told "use lard and real butter"
Go full carnivore it’s the best way to avoid all garbage food .
True but hard to do
@@OldNotDead-Club not really it’s the easiest thing I ever did , I feel satiated all the time and have no cravings , lost 32lbs , no aches or pains in my joints , no more snoring, no more dandruff, no more plaque buildup on my teeth , and have a ton of energy . This all happened in 2 months. Sounds to good to be true but it is it. Easiest thing I have ever done . The lion diet. beef, salt, and water.
@@MrScullydog i dont doubt you, i do it periodically
@@OldNotDead-Club that’s great , all new to me , 54 , 6-3 and was 267 and now 237 in 2 months , cut out all sugar carbs, coffee and alcohol , it’s amazing what your body can do when you feed it right. great vids , you got me on the 4th hole , I never thought it would be your pie hole , keep the vids coming, Cheers!!
Bel Ray, all 3 holes
I don’t know that
Amsoil is the best that’s it
A lot of people say that, it's just hard to get here. I might try and get some posted next time
Good old butter lol
Amsoil 20W-50 V-Twin
RED LlNE OIL
Have heard many positive things about it
Amsoil 20w50
Popular choice, hard to get here
Don't forget to only put Harley-Davidson air in yer tyres.
Lol, what oil do you recommend
@@OldNotDead-Club I've used Motul products with success for decades. Each individual has to make their own decision. Hopefully an informed one !.
AMSOIL
Aye we're all gonna die one day one way or the other! Ride to Live Live to Ride😎
Amsoil / all 3 holes
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I've found that my 2018 M8 Sport Glide has very good "friction zone" clutch engagement with HD Heavy Duty Syn in the Primary and Gearbox. Makes it much easier to find Neutral with this oil, definitely easier than the Syn 3 stuff. Mobil 1 V Twin synthetic 20w-50 in the engine sump tank.
I may be in the minority there but I hate random influencers trying to tell people how to live there lives by trying to trick them thinking there learning about motorcycles.
But then boom
It's a woke health soy boi message 👎
Maybe this is what people are after but I for one hate this kind of content so I'm out .
Lol and triggered, be that hard man with the soft belly.
@@OldNotDead-Club all good maybe some people need help but not me,so just not for me,I'm after motorcycle content without someone telling me I'm not as smart as them and don't know how to feed myself and that I make bad choices.
Everything in moderation.
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Bye-bye then.....
Screw those harleys. You get a much simplier, better running, and more econimical engines with japanese bikes. Way more customer friendly as well!
See my video, "you don't know anything about motorcycles if you..."