I'm a 100kg intermediate sup surfer. I own a 10'5" wide point and it's fine. The only problem I have with it is that because of the narrow tail section, it's hard to get a good balance point for sharper turns. I rented a whopper once for a day and I was amazed at how much easier it was to find that balance point to raise the nose and get those sharper turns in. It was a real revelation. My only wish is that they made a whopper in a 9' or 9'5" length. The 34" width provides incredible stablity in choppy conditions. Thanks for the video - as usual, great information.
Thanks for your comment, I think a 9'5" would be a great idea. Super stable but would have the ability to turn a little more. Happy paddling Reuben / SUPboarder
I owned the Whopper 10'(2018 A.S.A.P) , and the Widepoint 9'5" (2018, after they started to over-do the tail rocker) and the Whopper 9'5" (2019) Personally, I found the Widepoint a disaster, like paddling in on a piece of soap. And once on a wave I found it terrible to find the sweet spot. Tried different fins, moved the center fin back and forth, but nah, not happy. While not having speed it turns pretty bad and the rails are much sharper front to back causing the board to catch rail if you're not paddling 90degrees off a wave. Then got the Whopper 9'5" and finally progressed and learned so much with it. When the decks of the boards started to cave in I sold the lot. I now ride a cheap 2010 Starboard Hero (9x33) A loggy and heavy board, but I can throw it around with ease and it suits my riding and helps me to progress. It catches waves better then the aforementioned 3 boards, which was a pleasant surprise. It's a pity the Starboard Hero disappeared from the 2020 program, as it is a great board for heavier riders wanting to step down in length. Once you step back and surf in the pocket, the board lights up. Although it's a bit of a fatboy I can kick the tail out and it trims/stall nicely, like an retro log. This is my one-board quiver for the next 12 months and the last Starboard SUP I buy as customer service is a joke and they'r not as strong as the say in the catalog. I still think back on the early daze with the 10' Whopper, which is an amazing surfboard, it really defies its proportions. (Rider 50yrs, 22years of prone surf, 21years kitesurf, 6'2" 90kg/198pounds)
I have a 9.5 wide point and love it if it’s super glassy and I’m on the waves but found it hard to balance on out past the break especially if it’s choppy I’m about 93 kilo Just picked up a whopper 9.4 x 33 Hopefully it’s the one!
Smashing review! Having sent time on the Widepoint 9'5"and Hypernut 8'4" I really appreciated your notes on the two boards. Agree 100% the Hypernut is a more technical platform to surf than the classic funboard/hybrid shaped Widepoint. Even though volume is close between the two the hypernut has less rocker, I found it slower to paddle and more sensitive to timing when catching waves. The Widepoint for me at 85km can catch anything worth surfing and early enough to have a big advantage over prone surfers. The Hypernut was a bit quicker down the line and generates more drive, but its less forging of late drops and mistakes. I'm not convinced its a good 1 board quiver for surfing, more of a sml - med mushy wave board who's width lets you ride something much shorter. Be a nice second board for the punchy beach break I usually surf but if I got one it would be the 7'10" or even the 7'4"
Hey Chris, Nice one I think you are spot on. I think you have nailed it by saying the HyperNut is a great second board. I love the Wide Point and I think more people should have one over a Hyper Nut, from an all round surfing POV. Thanks for the comment, great to hear it. Thanks Reuben
Hi there, just getting into paddle boards, Whopper is what I'm thinking, can you please tell me where you filmed the videos. Thanks in anticipation, Charlie.
Za bit of nose rocker on the nose of the hypernut will help. Bought myself a 7'8" being conservative about volumme drop (my current board is a7'2" 120lts) and this board is soo stable and the volume s soo well distributed that I could have gone down to the 7'4" easily. Dont be affraid of shaving volume on t he hypernut
Great comment, makes sure to do the SUPboarders readers survey on the video post at the bottom of the page too, if you get the chance. ;-) www.supboardermag.com/2019/04/19/wide-surf-shapes-from-starboard-compared-whopper-wide-point-and-hyper-nut/ Thanks Reuben / SUPboarder
I ride a 10' Whopper - Love the board. Sure, I find it has its limitations, but for catching waves up to head high its awesome. I wish the bottom turns were a bit faster, but its super forgiving instead.
I’ve got a wide point 9.5 I’m about 93 kilo I found it great on the waves but a bit tricky to balance on out past the break waiting for waves especially if it’s not glassy Just picked up a brand new whopper 9.4 x 33 Will post how it goes once I get it out!
Hi Reuben, I'm thinking of getting back into SUP but not sure what board would suit me best. I started off on a 10' Wassup which was super stable but sometimes felt too stable. I do a 50/50 mix of flatwater and waves (as my local spot has a river to get to the sea) but want the board primarily for the waves. I would class myself as a beginner sup surfer who is very confident on the flat, 5ft 6 at 77 kgs. Torn between a 9.5ft whopper, 9.2ft wedge/widepoint, or possibly a 9.3ft Allwave. Which would you recommend? Any advice would be great 👍🏼
Hi Chris. Beau here to help answer your question. The bigger All Wave size might be a great option as this board would be good for flat water and work well in the waves. The Wedge has a bit of rocker which would help on the takeoffs, but slow you down a bit on the flat. The Whopper might be too large and similar to your older Wassup board in terms of size and stability. Hope that helps. Thanks, Beau
Yes, absolutely. It wont be that fast in the small stuff because of it width. But the Whopper is a super fun board that so many paddlers should get into some good waves on. Thanks Reuben
Do you think a whopper 10' would be the best entry board for a 70kg person or possibly too big? I have a redpaddle 10'6 ride at the moment, and want to get into surfing, I live on the south coast. I saw they make a whopper jr at 9'5 too.
Hi, The Whopper is a super fun board that surfs really well for its size but you are right the 10' will be too big. Defo look at the smaller whopper board. In an ideal world you might even be able to drop down to a 9'5"-10' board that is 32"wide because of you weight. The smaller whopper will be a super fun board and you will get into waves and progress well with it. But you might find you out grow it quicker than a slightly narrower board. Does that make sense? If you feel like SUP surfing is going to be your real passion, what about the 10'2" Wedge? You will get years out of that one! Thanks Reuben
@@SUPboardermag Thanks for the recommendation Reuben, hopefully you'll do a review of the 10'2 Wedge lite tech soon. I can't find any reviews of the wide point/wedge 10'2. A lot of people seem to like the Fanatic Allwave too, any thoughts on that? Ideally, it would be great if my surfboard would also do some flat water as well so I can go out with friends and lend them my iSUP.
Yeah I would say that most boards around 10'-10'5" would work ok on the flat stuff too. Not the fastest but very doable. We are trying to get a smaller Allwave soon to review as well, so look out for that one. Worth remembering. When we review the slightly smaller boards it's also pretty easy for us to scale up how the bigger boards would feel also… Does that make sense?Reuben
Hey Angela. The raptor is kind of like the HN but also very different. The Raptor is a really lively board almost too lively for a lot of surfers. I really loved it. But the Hyper Nut is much more of an all round board that can handle bigger waves sizes. Hope that helps? Reuben
Back in the day, I learnt on a 10’ Whopper. Awesome board!
;-). Thanks for your comment.
Excellent review, thanks. Makes me please I ordered the Whopper as a newbie to sup surfing.
Great Nik, you will love it and learn so much with it.
Great information. You've sold the Whopper to me. Thank you
Glad we could help
Excellent reviewing once again!
Thanks Kurt :-)
Great review! About to pull the trigger on an 11'2" Widepoint myself for US east coast summers. Cheers
go for it ;-)
I'm a 100kg intermediate sup surfer. I own a 10'5" wide point and it's fine. The only problem I have with it is that because of the narrow tail section, it's hard to get a good balance point for sharper turns. I rented a whopper once for a day and I was amazed at how much easier it was to find that balance point to raise the nose and get those sharper turns in. It was a real revelation. My only wish is that they made a whopper in a 9' or 9'5" length. The 34" width provides incredible stablity in choppy conditions. Thanks for the video - as usual, great information.
Thanks for your comment, I think a 9'5" would be a great idea. Super stable but would have the ability to turn a little more. Happy paddling Reuben / SUPboarder
I owned the Whopper 10'(2018 A.S.A.P) , and the Widepoint 9'5" (2018, after they started to over-do the tail rocker) and the Whopper 9'5" (2019) Personally, I found the Widepoint a disaster, like paddling in on a piece of soap. And once on a wave I found it terrible to find the sweet spot. Tried different fins, moved the center fin back and forth, but nah, not happy. While not having speed it turns pretty bad and the rails are much sharper front to back causing the board to catch rail if you're not paddling 90degrees off a wave. Then got the Whopper 9'5" and finally progressed and learned so much with it. When the decks of the boards started to cave in I sold the lot. I now ride a cheap 2010 Starboard Hero (9x33) A loggy and heavy board, but I can throw it around with ease and it suits my riding and helps me to progress. It catches waves better then the aforementioned 3 boards, which was a pleasant surprise. It's a pity the Starboard Hero disappeared from the 2020 program, as it is a great board for heavier riders wanting to step down in length. Once you step back and surf in the pocket, the board lights up. Although it's a bit of a fatboy I can kick the tail out and it trims/stall nicely, like an retro log. This is my one-board quiver for the next 12 months and the last Starboard SUP I buy as customer service is a joke and they'r not as strong as the say in the catalog. I still think back on the early daze with the 10' Whopper, which is an amazing surfboard, it really defies its proportions. (Rider 50yrs, 22years of prone surf, 21years kitesurf, 6'2" 90kg/198pounds)
I have a 9.5 wide point and love it if it’s super glassy and I’m on the waves but found it hard to balance on out past the break especially if it’s choppy
I’m about 93 kilo
Just picked up a whopper 9.4 x 33
Hopefully it’s the one!
Brilliant. Really clear info and you have made my mind up, what to buy. Thanks again
Great to hear!
Smashing review! Having sent time on the Widepoint 9'5"and Hypernut 8'4" I really appreciated your notes on the two boards. Agree 100% the Hypernut is a more technical platform to surf than the classic funboard/hybrid shaped Widepoint. Even though volume is close between the two the hypernut has less rocker, I found it slower to paddle and more sensitive to timing when catching waves. The Widepoint for me at 85km can catch anything worth surfing and early enough to have a big advantage over prone surfers. The Hypernut was a bit quicker down the line and generates more drive, but its less forging of late drops and mistakes. I'm not convinced its a good 1 board quiver for surfing, more of a sml - med mushy wave board who's width lets you ride something much shorter. Be a nice second board for the punchy beach break I usually surf but if I got one it would be the 7'10" or even the 7'4"
Hey Chris, Nice one I think you are spot on. I think you have nailed it by saying the HyperNut is a great second board. I love the Wide Point and I think more people should have one over a Hyper Nut, from an all round surfing POV. Thanks for the comment, great to hear it. Thanks Reuben
@@SUPboardermag anytime Ruben really like your reviews
Great review guys! A fair comparison....
Thanks Chris
Great reviews thank you!
Glad you like them!
Hi there, just getting into paddle boards, Whopper is what I'm thinking, can you please tell me where you filmed the videos.
Thanks in anticipation, Charlie.
Hey Charlie, The Whooper is a super fun and good choice. We filmed this session on the south coast of Cornwall UK. Thanks Reuben
Excellent review
Thank you kindly
Za bit of nose rocker on the nose of the hypernut will help. Bought myself a 7'8" being conservative about volumme drop (my current board is a7'2" 120lts) and this board is soo stable and the volume s soo well distributed that I could have gone down to the 7'4" easily. Dont be affraid of shaving volume on t he hypernut
Great comment, makes sure to do the SUPboarders readers survey on the video post at the bottom of the page too, if you get the chance. ;-) www.supboardermag.com/2019/04/19/wide-surf-shapes-from-starboard-compared-whopper-wide-point-and-hyper-nut/ Thanks Reuben / SUPboarder
I ride a 10' Whopper - Love the board. Sure, I find it has its limitations, but for catching waves up to head high its awesome. I wish the bottom turns were a bit faster, but its super forgiving instead.
Great to hear your feedback Bruce
I’ve got a wide point 9.5
I’m about 93 kilo
I found it great on the waves but a bit tricky to balance on out past the break waiting for waves especially if it’s not glassy
Just picked up a brand new whopper 9.4 x 33
Will post how it goes once I get it out!
Hi Reuben, I'm thinking of getting back into SUP but not sure what board would suit me best. I started off on a 10' Wassup which was super stable but sometimes felt too stable. I do a 50/50 mix of flatwater and waves (as my local spot has a river to get to the sea) but want the board primarily for the waves. I would class myself as a beginner sup surfer who is very confident on the flat, 5ft 6 at 77 kgs. Torn between a 9.5ft whopper, 9.2ft wedge/widepoint, or possibly a 9.3ft Allwave. Which would you recommend? Any advice would be great 👍🏼
Hi Chris. Beau here to help answer your question. The bigger All Wave size might be a great option as this board would be good for flat water and work well in the waves. The Wedge has a bit of rocker which would help on the takeoffs, but slow you down a bit on the flat. The Whopper might be too large and similar to your older Wassup board in terms of size and stability. Hope that helps. Thanks, Beau
@@SUPboardermag thank you Beau, much appreciated 🤙🏼
Would a whopper be able to surf really small knee high waves? 👍🏻
Yes, absolutely.
It wont be that fast in the small stuff because of it width. But the Whopper is a super fun board that so many paddlers should get into some good waves on. Thanks Reuben
Do you think a whopper 10' would be the best entry board for a 70kg person or possibly too big? I have a redpaddle 10'6 ride at the moment, and want to get into surfing, I live on the south coast. I saw they make a whopper jr at 9'5 too.
Hi, The Whopper is a super fun board that surfs really well for its size but you are right the 10' will be too big. Defo look at the smaller whopper board. In an ideal world you might even be able to drop down to a 9'5"-10' board that is 32"wide because of you weight. The smaller whopper will be a super fun board and you will get into waves and progress well with it. But you might find you out grow it quicker than a slightly narrower board. Does that make sense?
If you feel like SUP surfing is going to be your real passion, what about the 10'2" Wedge? You will get years out of that one! Thanks Reuben
@@SUPboardermag Thanks for the recommendation Reuben, hopefully you'll do a review of the 10'2 Wedge lite tech soon. I can't find any reviews of the wide point/wedge 10'2. A lot of people seem to like the Fanatic Allwave too, any thoughts on that? Ideally, it would be great if my surfboard would also do some flat water as well so I can go out with friends and lend them my iSUP.
Yeah I would say that most boards around 10'-10'5" would work ok on the flat stuff too. Not the fastest but very doable.
We are trying to get a smaller Allwave soon to review as well, so look out for that one.
Worth remembering. When we review the slightly smaller boards it's also pretty easy for us to scale up how the bigger boards would feel also… Does that make sense?Reuben
Hi, great review thank you! I have a question do you prefer the Naish Rapture of the Hypernut as your small wave surf sup? All the Best,
Angela
Hey Angela. The raptor is kind of like the HN but also very different. The Raptor is a really lively board almost too lively for a lot of surfers. I really loved it. But the Hyper Nut is much more of an all round board that can handle bigger waves sizes. Hope that helps? Reuben
Thanks so much Reuben, always a wealth of knowledge ;) 🙏
@@ajachild we're here to help :-)