TOXIC Reddit is Malding About Hands NOT Being Nerfed - The Texas Chain Saw Massacre

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @lordofligma
    @lordofligma 4 месяца назад +168

    Glad to see survivor mains are still annoying even in other games

    • @FemboyKaiSaku
      @FemboyKaiSaku 4 месяца назад +51

      feels like the majority of the dbd community is just annoying crybabies

    • @xytech7432
      @xytech7432 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@FemboyKaiSaku
      🎯

    • @roberthoddinott9160
      @roberthoddinott9160 4 месяца назад +12

      The victim mains almost managed to kill the game like they wanted. I had to switch back to family just to get games in

    • @Badblood226
      @Badblood226 4 месяца назад +7

      😭😭😭😭 valid asf

    • @tomSavini_jason
      @tomSavini_jason 4 месяца назад

      ​@@roberthoddinott9160same

  • @JCglitchmaster
    @JCglitchmaster 4 месяца назад +63

    The worst part of modern gaming is how reddit has become the defacto place to go to give feedback directly to developers. Unlike forums which usually adjust posts based on activity, reddit is primarily the upvote system. So unless you have either an issue to report that's so GLARINGLY BAD that everyone universally agrees it's bad or you follow the hive mind any legitimate, interesting or niche opinion on something for feedback will just get drowned out by morons.
    Often with them not even bothering to understand your point and reading the first 3 words of a sentence then making up the rest of the sentence in their head to then give you a 45 page essay on how your wrong about a viewpoint you literally don't hold *cough* dbd reddit *cough*

  • @Badface678
    @Badface678 4 месяца назад +19

    Bomb Squad getting a set amount of charges per Trapping Family character could be a healthy medium over recurring when a trap is reset.
    Having too many charges to it undermines the effectiveness of traps aside from being speed bumps while allowing for Bone Scraps to used entirely for grapples.

  • @pizzaduffy
    @pizzaduffy 4 месяца назад +27

    I think a Tommy Jarvis mechanic would be interesting to test in TCM. I'd be full down for that.

  • @JudgeJaco
    @JudgeJaco 3 месяца назад +1

    It's weird that Hands can't barge doors in two attempts. And you can easily fool Hands, because of his ripstall cooldown. Hands also isn't that good in attacking. And that weird barge attack isn't great either. But I like him

  • @harshkale1688
    @harshkale1688 4 месяца назад +19

    99% of the time I literally see hands camping at the Fuse and Valve 😂😂 and others at battery and generator exits.

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад +3

      Well, looks like we have to go elsewhere!

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 4 месяца назад

      ​@@RhyzVids Guess we just well till we can't well no more!

    • @JohnDonovan1968
      @JohnDonovan1968 4 месяца назад +1

      That's what you supposed to do bud. You win by guarding objectives.

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 4 месяца назад +2

      @@JohnDonovan1968 so how do victims get out if all exits are being camped 24/7?

    • @JohnDonovan1968
      @JohnDonovan1968 4 месяца назад +1

      @@themadmanescaped1 Skill issue, as victims you push objectives and do distractions. Valve for exemple someone has to leave the patroll to turn off.

  • @Blackheartgamer1
    @Blackheartgamer1 4 месяца назад +16

    Wanting to bully other players is always the reason why people refuse to accept changes.... whether buff or nerfs.

  • @MeduSnek
    @MeduSnek 4 месяца назад +9

    The problem is that there is nothing to learn to play against him. You just have to deal with him. I am completely okay with his abilities (except that fuse and valve items dissappear when he ripstalled them like wtf)

  • @NomadWhy2
    @NomadWhy2 4 месяца назад +37

    Playing as Hands is fun because you feel impactful and important to the team, the same can be said when playing as Cook, because they are both support characters. But going against a good Cook and/or Hands can feel really sucky when playing Solo queue because teamwork is required to bypass them. Communication is a near necessity when going against high level teams, but no one likes talking in game. This game is (in my opinion) communication sided, whichever team is giving the best comms wins. You can’t expect to escape a Hands when you’re not communicating and exits are always opened when his Ripstall is off cool-down.

    • @Prazca
      @Prazca 4 месяца назад +3

      i get what youre saying but cook has that purposefully incredibly strong ability of padlocks, and in conjunction he is incredibly slow and poses barely any threat in a 1v1 with him. not only does hands have this ability to instantly turn off an exit, he also has good damage, speed, 3 electricity traps, and a team based barge. i have played hands solo queue and personally i dont find him sucky at all since i can still have the potential to get kills. maybe im inexperienced as a victim and thats why i find him so challenging but i really do feel hes not healthy

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад +2

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@Prazcahands’ barge is extremely niche and almost useless. Also I play cook pretty often alongside hands and cooks padlocks, without security pins, are just a little distraction with toolboxes right next to major locked doors. Cooks strongest ability is his tracking with the “all family see noise” upgrade because it can prevent people from getting to those locks by having your team kill them.

    • @Prazca
      @Prazca 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RhyzVids key word "without security pins" literally every cook uses it so that argument just flat out dosent work, i agree about the barge though but its not useless

  • @lovetapp558
    @lovetapp558 2 месяца назад

    i play hands all the time now, and no its virtually impossible to beat a decent hands player, no matter how many bomb squads they got cx...the devs decision to let the fusebox and the valve pump spawn next to each other again....sooooooooo nice. u can camp two gates to an exit and two other exits at the same time and within a manageable small distance if the pump and box spawn close one another that is, but it happens more often that i think it should, especially for me xD, so while u play def your teammates can kill, need at least one chaser though

    • @savioc.s8012
      @savioc.s8012 2 месяца назад

      Play with Hands is because you're 💩 in the game. Don't need skill to familly win.
      You even admit that the character is broken, but think that's "nice". People like you have zero mindset for fair gameplay to both sides, only think in your favorite side.

  • @zailis2917
    @zailis2917 3 месяца назад +1

    This was a top 5 game ever made in my opinion, until the previous update. Now it is perhaps even pointless to play. Currently it is uninstalled with no foreseeable reinstall in the future (at this time). I still check on potential updates every week or two, but that's about it.
    The game is pointless to play as a victim, now. Already they made it to where killers can turn off the fuse box, which was one of the worst things you couldve done to the game. Now, Hands just has to use his ability to pull out the fuse and valve handle. This allows one killer to camp one exit, while another camps the other. Hence, now there is even a finite amount of times you can activate fuse/valve handle.
    Honestly its quite boring as a killer, now as well. Literally you just have to sit and stare at the car battery, or generator for most maps. You don't really do much.
    Prior to this update, i had over a 70% escape rate on the game, which I still do, since i barely played any matches with the new update. However, now it is nearly impossible to escape. Now the only way to counter Hands, is to activate multiple exits simultaneously. This again, is very difficult or even impossible, especially if other victims die off early…..which they always do (Joke: You always get those Lelands that like to wake up Grandpa in the first 10 seconds, then die in the next 20 seconds, and DC to go to their next match to rinse and repeat).
    There needs to be a nerf to hands, or perhaps a character ban system. Allow Victims to ban 2 killers each map (There are 5 free killers, hence 3 are guaranteed), and allow the killers to ban 1 victim per map (There are 5 free victims, hence 4 free to play are guaranteed).

    There are perks/features I would like to see go back to what they used to be as well:
    1. Bomb Squad (Perk)
    Also with all of these trap characters that have infinite resets, it would be nice if bomb squad went be back to its former glory of having infinite uses. That or make it to where traps cannot be reset or reused. Why can Nancy, Hitch, and Hands constantly reset their traps. It should be one and done, just like Cook's padlocks.
    2. Choose Flight (Perk)
    This perk was absolutely critical for certain situations. One prime situation was running down the driveway on family house. Why is this a finite use now, at least give it a cool down for multiple uses per game (Example: Level 1- Three minute cool down, Level 2- Two and half minute cool down, Level 3- Two minute cool down).
    3. Fuse Box Change (Exit)
    Change fuse box to where it cannnot be turned off. Or make it to where they have a substantial amount more time to interact with it. Most of the time, you can run the most ideal route from the box to the exit, and it gets turned off well before you can make it. Some times it is possible with Choose Flight, but well…..only one per game is provided now (not sure why that was a good idea). There is the Saboteur Perk, but it takes up an perk slot, which isn't terrible, but its useless with Hands in the game anyways. For some reason, he still just can instantly use his ability (That shouldn't be). It should play a role in Hands' Ripstall ability, hence he should have at least the 30 second delay from Saboteur (Rank 3).
    4. Hands (Character):
    As you know this is the worst update in the game by a landslide, this character turned a great game, into complete garbage. This character needs a nerf or TCM will drop in player base. I for sure will not be coming back until this character is changed, or a ban system is in place. Either take his primarily ability away, make it like an 8 minute cool down, or just make it one use per game, or even make it to where he cant use the ability for a minute or so after an escape has been opened. Again there is a finite amount of valves and fuses on the map, they dont respawn. Hence, eventually after enough rip stalls, there is only 2 usable exits on the map. There basically is only 2 exits on the map, at this time, which 1 killer is always watching. Maybe also, make it to where Hands just pulls the fuse or valve out, and not destroys it, hence it can be picked up off the ground and reused.

  • @jasonblundelldobebussing
    @jasonblundelldobebussing 4 месяца назад +29

    They've added Choy into the game, and now everyone is angry

  • @josesarabia8829
    @josesarabia8829 3 месяца назад +1

    The way you explained the revivals concept tcm should have would make the game so much more fun. Especially with more kills as family. Health should only reach 75% too since youre “back” from the dead

  • @joshuacrofton2203
    @joshuacrofton2203 3 месяца назад

    I have one gripe with hands. The permanent destruction of the escape item from the match. That's like 2 to 4 items gone and never to use that escape again. I just wish the items would just return to the spawn they came from at least

  • @moonshiners-cv6kd
    @moonshiners-cv6kd 4 месяца назад +12

    molding? Thats insane to sweat so bad your growin mold

  • @SegaCDUniverse
    @SegaCDUniverse 4 месяца назад +7

    Having to hold two valves or whatever is silly. I think they slowed down Danny, which is fine. But the ripstall needs to have a longer cool down, most definitely.

  • @CLANKER171
    @CLANKER171 3 месяца назад

    Honestly twitter is just as bad or even worse under every Tcm post there’s a victim crying and begging for Johnny to be nerfed

  • @annie-jy1tk
    @annie-jy1tk 4 месяца назад +33

    it's malding, not molding

    • @moonshiners-cv6kd
      @moonshiners-cv6kd 4 месяца назад +12

      no the tittle is correct its impressive to be that nasty.

    • @Prazca
      @Prazca 4 месяца назад +8

      its molting, not malding. they're actually spiders that are growing up over the fact

    • @fuzzmanx
      @fuzzmanx 4 месяца назад +2

      It's melting, not malding. It's insane to witness these guys lose their minds.

  • @rielochoa4786
    @rielochoa4786 4 месяца назад +14

    Salty survivors complaining about Hands because they lose , we family players endure for very long since Danny was released because of Tampering and family members can't do anyting about it but to watch T-bag you by victims on exit! Now the they put Hands to counter it and they become salty, pathetic losers. 🤪

    • @HKenzo666
      @HKenzo666 4 месяца назад +1

      Family take no brainpower except walk, patrol and attack

    • @rielochoa4786
      @rielochoa4786 4 месяца назад +2

      @@HKenzo666 how is that connected here? And besides, TCM is not a puzzle game for you to apply brain bullsh*t here 😅, this is survival horror. Play puzzle games if you want brain bullsh*t you are saying 😅

    • @JohnSmith-u6j
      @JohnSmith-u6j 3 месяца назад

      okay, now it's hell for survivors. We should all opt for balance, not one side or the other overpowering. And Hands, is overpowering. He has a million different abilities, all of them are incredible. this isn't okay

    • @rielochoa4786
      @rielochoa4786 3 месяца назад

      @@JohnSmith-u6j what other extra abilities you are saying? You mean the Barge? It's not really OP as it is not really accurate like Leland with auto lock, me when I use barge 3/5 will only hit. And there are also other familes with extra ability and let me give you examples: Leather face > immune to close encounter and can destroy loop holes, Johnny > Can barge to doors instantly and his normal attacks disorients victims, Sissy and Hitch can go through loop holes like victims. Now in my book that sounds fair to if compaired to other family extra ablities. You survivors just lose that's why you go to Developers and cry like a baby on their mommy that they get bullied at school 😂😂

    • @JohnSmith-u6j
      @JohnSmith-u6j 3 месяца назад

      @@rielochoa4786 Yes I agree his barge is niche, but the three traps he gets and his 40 sec ripstall ability makes pressure valve and fusebox useless; his high savagery, great speed, ability to destroy barricades with a perk.. I opt for balance, and this character is no where near that. I implore you play victim even if just for a little bit to get a better and more whole perspective on the state of the game.

  • @TomTheEGamer575
    @TomTheEGamer575 3 месяца назад

    They nerfed hands ability his cool down is longer now.

    • @Gaminghex31
      @Gaminghex31 3 месяца назад

      still needs a longer nerf. 70 seconds is fine,but it shouldnt destroy the items needed to escape, thats just bullshit

  • @steventalvinzvestal420
    @steventalvinzvestal420 3 месяца назад

    Rule number 1,
    never take development advices from redditors especially from low skilled gaming reddit noobs.

    • @MrChillin8
      @MrChillin8 3 месяца назад

      "low skilled gaming Reddit noobs" never cringed at an attempt of a insult so badly

  • @Nikhtaz
    @Nikhtaz 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video. I hope you can get the devs to watch this - please try - because reddit has already downvoted it to oblivion

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 4 месяца назад +1

      Because the only people that think Hands is fine are people that are bad at the game and want a killer that can stop victims from winning.

    • @misterpinkandyellow74
      @misterpinkandyellow74 4 месяца назад

      ​@@themadmanescaped1yes you are bad at the game 😂

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 4 месяца назад

      @@misterpinkandyellow74 explain to me then how Victims in solo are supposed to pull off double valve or fuse when you're relying on people to communicate and work together?
      Most players I've run into on both sides don't communicate and victims rush every objective. Assuming there's a Danny in the game a valve or fuse is usually gone before they can do those objectives.
      If there isn't a Danny in the game... all family players have to do is camp exits while Hands camps fuse/valve. Tell me what you're supposed to do?
      Hands deletes Valves and Fuses. You can't get out once that happens.

    • @afrosamurai3847
      @afrosamurai3847 4 месяца назад

      ​@@themadmanescaped1You use smoke and mirror tactics. Put on valve, fuse, etc on one side of the map and then actually go for another objective. Hands and other family are on guard for the rest of the game. Also why opening a gate to an objective but not actually going to it is good. It creates paranoia on Family side as they have to account for that breach in defenses.

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 4 месяца назад

      @@afrosamurai3847 I feel like you didn't read my comment. I'm talking about games where one person is sitting there staring at gen/battery/doors while another person does the same while a Hands focuses Valve/Fuse.
      Distraction doesn't matter. They don't leave the designated area they need to be in so Hands can just destroy valves and fuses. They don't care if outer doors get popped.
      What are you supposed to do in this scenario?

  • @SoloQSights
    @SoloQSights 4 месяца назад +7

    Hi Choy decided to do a last ditch effort on the giveaway "HANDS" key and got it 17 minutes after the video was posted. Appreciate you Choy cheers

  • @illumi9950
    @illumi9950 4 месяца назад +2

    Hands does promote camping, because if an exit is open, the family will sit there the entire game on both sides, while Hands patrols the fuse/gen. The Danny tec is very easily counter-able with Hands' ability, Ripstalled, which prevents victims from interacting with whatever Hands ripstalled for 30 seconds, and allowing hands to completely bypass Danny's ability and Saboteur is still a problem; he should not be able to ripstall something Danny tampered with. It literally defeats the purpose of his entire ability. And I've had matches where the hitchhiker camped battery, Cook camped gen, and Hands camped fuse. It's even more impossible with that trio because of Cook's locks and the lack of bomb squad charges victims have. Also, the lack of bone scraps you can get from bone scrap piles. Now, they need to revert bomb squad back to infinite uses, make his ripstall cooldown as long as Connie's focused, which is 4 minutes. He shouldn't be able to neglect Danny's ability and Saboteur; otherwise, what is Saboteur even in the game for, and what is Danny's ability useful for with him in the game?
    And I don’t know how the OG trio is the best for camping when without Hands, victims can easily press valve and fuse.
    And I don’t know why you’re insinuating that victims are crying on Reddit when that’s literally what family mains did with Danny and still do with Connie since day one. All family mains do is cry to the devs because they lack coordination; they won’t communicate through their mics or game chat. Honestly, most family mains are just dumb. As someone who plays both sides, seeing a Johnny and Sissy come in the basement just makes me laugh because I know in the next 2 minutes, damn near every exit will be open. A lot of family mains lack communication, don’t listen to their teammates who actually communicate, and just make dumb reads and decisions. Then they want to cry to Gun because they got bullied by Connie and Leland. Hilarious stuff.

  • @cijayfish
    @cijayfish 4 месяца назад +4

    Victim mains when they get more and more overpowered characters while we only have nancy: "This is fine!"
    Victims when the killer can kill: 😢
    Victims when they don't get emotes to be more toxic: 😢
    Victims when: the newest victim can't ruin the entire match for the family side: 😢
    Victims when they add a single gate: 😢
    Victims when they see a family member: 😢
    Victims when family members are strong
    Victims when Johnny: 😢
    Victims when Johnny isn't shirtless: 😢
    Victims when Johnny is shirtless:😢
    Victims when house map: 😢
    Victims when Mill map: 😢
    Victims when Slaughterhouse: 😢
    Victims when Nancy's house: 😢
    Victims when gas station: 😢
    Victims when the family DC's: 😢
    Victims when Victims dc: 😢
    Victims when Victims: 😢
    Victims when family: 😢
    Victims when TCM: 😢
    Victims when nothing: 😢
    Victims victims victims: 😢
    Victims when nothing is going how they want it to go: 😢
    Victims when someone already chose their fav character
    Victims when the only counter against grappling isn't even that strong: 😢
    Victims when they can't stab bubba every 2 seconds: 😢
    Victims when they can't rush the entire match: 😢
    Victims when they live: 😢

    • @HKenzo666
      @HKenzo666 4 месяца назад +1

      Family players not realizing they’re the most braindead side to play and actually take no brainpower to do good with :

  • @Ronald-hk6fk
    @Ronald-hk6fk 3 месяца назад

    Hands is a Biker not a Linebacker!
    His stamina needs a nerf, it's higher than victims

  • @thomashyman73
    @thomashyman73 4 месяца назад

    The revival mechanic you mentioned sounds a lot like from last year..... When a survivor in that game gets killer, they have a limited number of times they can respawn.... When they respawn they're locked behind a door that the survivors can see from across the map

  • @Gaminghex31
    @Gaminghex31 3 месяца назад

    I respect that you have a lot of these hot takes choy, but I respectfully disagree. Hands is OP and yeah there's a tech, but what about the people who aren't playing danny, or own him? I personally play danny and get annoyed at the fact that ripstall has such a short cooldown. I play both sides (mostly leatherface), but for being paid Hands does WAY too much, and not only that but I always feel gross playing him when there is a cook, or hitch guarding EVERY exit. Between ripstalls, and every other exit guarded its nearly impossible to escape on certain maps. Not only that but you can barely hear him coming. They need to give him more indicators than just grunts that for the most part blend into the atmospheric music and sounds playing in the games background

  • @jaredwhitten2876
    @jaredwhitten2876 4 месяца назад

    TBH the only 3 things hands needs is a longer ripstall cooldown or a nerf to his cooldown reduction upgrades and a better barge hitbox that things real bad and an actual reason to hold the defensive stance

  • @bartendingpanda6309
    @bartendingpanda6309 4 месяца назад

    Letting a single person getting an infinity stacking bomb squad due to resetting traps would completely negate HH and make him useless you can already run a 4 man bomb squad team with coms that can make HH pointless I get that's is extremely unlikely but that buff would remove any point of HH all together

  • @Stranzua
    @Stranzua 4 месяца назад +2

    The blood builds where Hitchy traps grandpa is way worse.

  • @DastardlyHandsome
    @DastardlyHandsome 4 месяца назад +14

    Hands = Pay To Win

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад +11

      I’m fairly certain hitch is one of the strongest family in the game with multiple play styles and a beginner-friendly loadout and he’s free?

    • @ryuno2097
      @ryuno2097 4 месяца назад +7

      Danny and Virginia was Pay To Win too on release

    • @HKenzo666
      @HKenzo666 4 месяца назад

      @@RhyzVidsI’m fairly certain hitch doesn’t have the strongest kit especially without comms?

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@ryuno2097 I literally don't understand the people who claim Virginia and Danny were busted. Bubba can end Danny in two hits and Virginia is forced to well if a Bubba is near unless they're in an area that Bubba can't get them in.

    • @JohnDonovan1968
      @JohnDonovan1968 4 месяца назад

      Leatherface can 1-2 shot cry babies, has unlimited sprint, his attacks doesn't use stamina, he can destroy crawl spaces and pallets. Leatherface is the most powerful family member in the game
      Hes pay to win?

  • @glaive616
    @glaive616 4 месяца назад +15

    They don’t care, they have their money now, once all pre planned dlc is done, they’ll dip.

    • @moonshiners-cv6kd
      @moonshiners-cv6kd 4 месяца назад +5

      They should care to the hospital if you're growing mold

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад

      What makes you think that?? Gun intended to never leave F13 but was forced to by legal dilemmas. There is no reason to work on this game for years, farm DLC money, and leave. That’s not sustainable

    • @kayleighos
      @kayleighos 4 месяца назад +2

      @@RhyzVidsthey’ve already said that they’ll drop TCM in august if things don’t go to plan. they don’t care about this game. they want money.

    • @mitchsz
      @mitchsz 4 месяца назад

      I can see that happening because it was the case with Danny and Virginia. Danny was op as fuck on release and it took a lot of time to nerf him, and Virginia released so broken you couldn't even choose a skill tree path lol

    • @monstermancollectibles
      @monstermancollectibles 4 месяца назад

      Just because Saber did it with evil dead does not mean it’s going to happen with TCM. This game gets constantly updated with pretty good communication with devs. Saber barely dropped content, put work into a battle Royale and a prestige system that no one wanted or liked and they gave up. They never cared about their game. Gun media does.

  • @markoberlton8026
    @markoberlton8026 4 месяца назад +1

    Honestly I have 0 issues with this Hands is legit just pre nerf Danny on family side adnd this is the second time they made a DLC character OP just to sell a 10 dollar character which is lame and literally is pay to win.

  • @JustSomeoneSA
    @JustSomeoneSA 4 месяца назад +1

    We already know his counter play but in solo victim games which most victims are, combination of Hands, Hitch, and Cook is impossible to escape, and most family players hate playing solo and they dc a lot if they play solo while victims die and dc. Hands will get a nerf for sure if you like it or not. Danny and Nancy got nerf, even Cook and Johnny's ability got nerfed before. So they'll do something about his ability, unless family mains cry to devs.

    • @muslimayupov
      @muslimayupov 3 месяца назад

      solo family members suffering = good, solo victims suffering = bad. this isnt dbd

  • @alexdrake4081
    @alexdrake4081 4 месяца назад

    Hey Choy, are you excited for the knight changes coming soon? We might need an update for the guide!

  • @AlcinaDimitrescu
    @AlcinaDimitrescu 4 месяца назад +5

    This is why I like TCM a bit more than dead by daylight because all of the random nerfing behaviour does to Dead by daylight it hurts the game...

  • @MrSachmoe17
    @MrSachmoe17 4 месяца назад

    Blood builds are fine. Victims have counter play to it, plus its takes time for buckets to refill, or Family need to hit victims to collect. Hands is a resonable counter to Danny tamper. It's meant to be a team game, not solo. Hands makes it harder for a victim to solo their way out. Each match still comes down to which team coordinates & plays better.

  • @johndetheshape3095
    @johndetheshape3095 4 месяца назад +2

    If hands should be nerfed then i want Connies lock ability to be nerfed
    If hands wasnt in the game then survivors would win
    70 procent of the Time.
    I thinks Its fair now Its 50/50
    Either survivors win or they dont

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 3 месяца назад

      Exactly nerfing hands and Connie are on the same level of stupidity

  • @deftyconch
    @deftyconch 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video and love the Tommy Jarvis concept!

  • @TheMrFancyKiwi
    @TheMrFancyKiwi 4 месяца назад +28

    TCM victim players make DBD survivor players look calm, reasonable and understanding.

    • @laz981
      @laz981 4 месяца назад +8

      Some TCM people are also DBD so that's the reason why they are cry babies

    • @Jay-xo6ck
      @Jay-xo6ck 4 месяца назад +2

      Most of them are dbd survivors

    • @unarmingnewt6495
      @unarmingnewt6495 4 месяца назад +1

      They are just mad because they cannot accept, a good player killer is better than they, average dbd player , hands is game changer he makes the game more strategic, here on TCM you must be play intelligent and calm , you don't have a second chance to bully , that's why I play TCM is fun and strategic at the same time , dbd is just boring u don't enjoy playing as killer .

    • @saekisadako2118
      @saekisadako2118 3 месяца назад +1

      majority of victim mains are former dbd survivor mains

  • @Rambone1978
    @Rambone1978 4 месяца назад +3

    Agreed with everything you said

  • @whamster1637
    @whamster1637 4 месяца назад +3

    Could you link NekoJublehs website? Im interested im their stuff. Looked in the description of the video, and as of now there's no link.

  • @ladykiller3285
    @ladykiller3285 4 месяца назад

    It doesn't matter. This game is dead anyways, people leave in the lobby, during the match

  • @JohnDonovan1968
    @JohnDonovan1968 4 месяца назад +1

    Danny was completely broken and unbalanced for 3 months and just remember his ability also had a bug where he could finish the tamper early when he shouldn't. Is funny how victims forgot to mentioned the bug on his ability huh? Btw I was playing Danny during all that and it was way too easy. Victim is already easy but with pre nerf Danny was a walk in the park with 0 skills require.
    During all that the only counter (?) Was maybe Leatherface guarding the valve, tunneling and putting pressure on the Danny player and that's it.
    Anything that Danny tampered stays tampered till the end of the match, regardless if Hands ripstall
    So heres the thing let Hands be broken and unbalanced for 3 months, seems fair.
    I also i got full team escapes against Hands. Is not that hard to pull off.
    Push multiple objectives at the same time, that's all you need to do.

  • @heronik79
    @heronik79 4 месяца назад

    Uuuu i like the Tommy Jarvis idea

  • @muysli.y1855
    @muysli.y1855 4 месяца назад

    Reddit and Twitter always the worst 😂

  • @coldkiller6328
    @coldkiller6328 4 месяца назад +2

    Even if we add a 3-4 minute cooldown they still won’t act during the time and just complain.

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад

      You could most likely get to another exit if hands ripstalls the one you’re at in less than the existing cool-down or in even less time if you’re on comms (which more victims are than family)

  • @nisvwo6445
    @nisvwo6445 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't think that they didn't nerf hands yet because they wanna wait, they still have not fixed Johnny yet even tho it's been weeks (maybe months even)

    • @menaceiwill1
      @menaceiwill1 4 месяца назад

      What's wrong with Johnny

    • @nisvwo6445
      @nisvwo6445 4 месяца назад

      @@menaceiwill1 he has a double hit bug, and he is just way too op atm, he can kill you in 4-5 swings, lose almost no stamina and he also loses 0 distance on you. He is basically glued to your back

    • @menaceiwill1
      @menaceiwill1 4 месяца назад

      @nisvwo6445 yeah don't be in the open when Johnny is around. Of course.
      The devs also made him like that on purpose because that's the only thing that makes him ok. So Johnny will stay the way he is.
      But the double hit thing is a bug on every family member and needs to be fixed yes.
      You see a Johnny you run

    • @nisvwo6445
      @nisvwo6445 4 месяца назад

      @@menaceiwill1 They are fixing it tho and changing it because the devs themselfs said that it's bs

    • @nisvwo6445
      @nisvwo6445 4 месяца назад

      @@menaceiwill1 he shouldn't be able to stick to you like he is atm i don't care wich character it is, it's just bs

  • @doncheadlegaming7521
    @doncheadlegaming7521 4 месяца назад +3

    I’ve played Hands and yeah he’s busted. But I’ve also had games that last literally a minute.

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад +5

      I’ve played hands and he’s average. The biggest weakness he has that victims can and should exploit is his slow pace getting between locations. Playing hands is a matter of right place, right time and also being a good supporting character

  • @Onewolf101
    @Onewolf101 3 месяца назад +1

    The only thing I need is the cooldown of ripstall to go up like connies, family is still easy/broke without hands now imagine with him lol. The meta is trash now when a killer will literally just camp an area THE WHOLE GAME!! Its just not fair for victims to keep getting shit nerfed when something is good but family dont ever get a nerf. I get choose flight but empowered had no reason to get gutted. What do they want us to do run or fight oh neither damn. Also the skill tree change sucks for victims the most got rid of variety and good builds. Idc about victim being easier but they keep taking away the fun but not compensating because family complains when they always had the advantage, where is a system for being the last one alive with family camping etc? oh well game will always be in family favor and victims will keep getting nerfed for nothing smh. Before anyone says it I play both but its too easy and boring playing family. nerf cooldown on ripstall some and bring back empowered so we can play our protector role

  • @TheOriginalXmisto
    @TheOriginalXmisto 3 месяца назад

    Not nerfed… yeah uh huh. He was nerfed still. So why did this even get made? Hands is literally crap now for the most part other than ripstall.

  • @ChillyChief612
    @ChillyChief612 3 месяца назад

    I came back to tcm from a 5-month hiatus of being bored of the game. I like hands he's healthy for the game and should have become free for any still playing players for dealing with all the TERIBLE changes through the games life cycle.
    There needs to be some way to get this content free, and then I'll be sure to stay. Even if this is copeium.
    Yeah, I really like the idea of radioing another victim, like friday the 13th. It should be made an objective for victims. It could even be a licensed character like Old Sally getting her REVENGE!

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 3 месяца назад +1

      Sally would be cool to have as TCM’s Tommy Jarvis but this game canonically takes place before the first film so this wouldn’t make sense. Although maybe some random trucker could be radioed and come to help but get locked in to the property.

    • @ChillyChief612
      @ChillyChief612 3 месяца назад

      ​@RhyzVids oh I didn't even know this took place before the first game. Yeah I guess I wouldn't make sense Canonically.
      Yeah maybe a random trucker or police ranger could be Tommy Jarvis.

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 3 месяца назад

      @@ChillyChief612 yeah the devs even confirmed the camera hitch had in Texas chainsaw massacre 1 is Maria’s camera and the destroyed campsite we see in a few frames of the same film is the campsite of Connie, leland, sonny, ana and Julie after they were kidnapped by the family

  • @KiwitheGator
    @KiwitheGator 4 месяца назад

    You didn't link the website

  • @Ab3lhere
    @Ab3lhere 4 месяца назад

    You didn’t put the artist in description

  • @chac5132
    @chac5132 4 месяца назад

    Hands is fair and balanced.

  • @themadmanescaped1
    @themadmanescaped1 4 месяца назад +6

    Funny how this video just doesn't talk about the fact that Hands can just delete valves and fuses, and instantly turn on gens and batteries.
    "Hands doesn't encourage camping trust me bro" every game the last 3 days has been a Hands camping fuse and pressure while the other two family players camp exits.
    "Danny can just tamper with a second valve/fuse!" All solo queue games I've had Danny's in can't do valve/fuse like that because other players use one before he can collect both. If victims don't have a Danny then they can't do anything against family players that play correctly.
    This character is ruining the game. I started playing victim just so I could see how oppressive Hands is and he makes matches unplayable unless he's just a bad player or you have family that don't do what they need to do.

    • @muslimayupov
      @muslimayupov 3 месяца назад

      ohh all you have to do is split up, use voice coms and do different objectives. he literally needs to wait for almost 2vminutes to ripstalk something again and he doesnt have good mobility like bubba does. the rest sounds like skill issue especially when you have connie that can just destroy any lock or leland that grapples everything while the others do the objectives on the map

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 3 месяца назад

      @@muslimayupov Hands' cooldown for Ripstall is 70 seconds. 30 of those seconds prevent Victims from interacting with fuse/valve.
      Other objectives can't be done because family are camping them. It is especially more difficult when fuse/valve spawn near one of the main exits.
      You can't chain stun anymore and Connie's ability is irrelevant when it takes 4 minutes to come back and it's STILL irrelevant because Victims will be running out of health by the time they finally get to a battery or gen... and even then all family have to do is wait there. A victim or two is usually gone at this point in the game as well.
      You don't know what you're talking about.

    • @muslimayupov
      @muslimayupov 3 месяца назад

      @@themadmanescaped1 it prevents them from interactiv with the ripstalled objective, not valve/fuse.

    • @muslimayupov
      @muslimayupov 3 месяца назад

      @@themadmanescaped1 they can be done if there are two victims distracting a family membsr or just grapple them. you can stun them by grappling them. she still removes locks permanently, which makes 1 of the 3 family members to split up. yeah they will be if they literally do nothing instead of doing objectives. i do since i provide some advice while you are just bad at the game and cant even make them spit up on the map like slaighter house where there is too much space. you dont evenk know that the perk doesnt allow you to interact with only the ripstalled objective, not all of them.

    • @themadmanescaped1
      @themadmanescaped1 3 месяца назад

      @@muslimayupov 🤦‍♂️the fact that you don't know what I mean when I say fuse/valve tells me you don't play or don't communicate. I am OBVIOUSLY not talking about the pickups.

  • @shaqmason7486
    @shaqmason7486 4 месяца назад

    The only thing I don’t like about hands is that he deletes fuses and valve items from the game I feel like it should respawn where you got the item from

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад +1

      Or be knocked onto the floor somewhere nearby but far enough so it’s realistic and can’t be grabbed and immediately put back on, maybe a few steps back from the valve tank/fusebox

  • @MrRed092
    @MrRed092 4 месяца назад +3

    9:26 everything was fine until you said you want 3v5

    • @muysli.y1855
      @muysli.y1855 4 месяца назад +2

      I agree with him 3vs5 would much more fun.
      But first you need to nerf grandpa and rushing

  • @kainscion9085
    @kainscion9085 4 месяца назад

    Great video man, I'm sure this will go over well with the subreddits lol. Glad someone with a bit of a platform is calling the subreddits out because they're both terrible, a lot of these people should just move on and play something else.
    My experience playing as Hands is that the game has slowed down considerably. The rush meta is the real enemy as well as trolling victims like "Timmy."
    I'm 100% for the Jarvis mechanic if they implement Lieutenant Lefty since we're seeing leaks and rumors of Chop-Top possibly being the next Family member. Lefty would have far more combat prowess and essentially shake the game up too.

  • @jonasgrye
    @jonasgrye 4 месяца назад +2

    Survivor mains are annoying.

  • @Mike-lz7rg
    @Mike-lz7rg 4 месяца назад +4

    Sounds like victim mains are identicall to most biased survivor mains lol

    • @muysli.y1855
      @muysli.y1855 4 месяца назад +1

      Trust me Victims are more worst and Killer in Dbd is relax to play

    • @unarmingnewt6495
      @unarmingnewt6495 4 месяца назад

      ​@@muysli.y1855 I quit playing dbd because of the toxicity as a main killer , u cannot be good because u are cheater or a camper tunnel, etc. , they send me messages to k1ll me and men , dbd survivors are just pathetic and pure shit .

  • @butchershowtwitch
    @butchershowtwitch 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video Choy!
    I love the idea about the 3v5 aspect, hope the devs will think about that in the future

  • @Bigotsandwich1995
    @Bigotsandwich1995 4 месяца назад +2

    dont play but from an outsider perspective the fact that ripstall destroys the fuse is kinda garbage, as i understand those are a limited item

  • @savioc.s8012
    @savioc.s8012 2 месяца назад

    Toxic is using this broken character.
    The only thing familly players team need to do with Hands in their team is full camping the 2 exists ( battery and generator ), because valve and fuse is useless. So Its almost impossible escape and need zero skill to win.
    Any victim players should quit in the lobby if someone choose Hands.

  • @ericloftley9287
    @ericloftley9287 4 месяца назад

    All this damn crying

  • @michaelurmo7984
    @michaelurmo7984 4 месяца назад +4

    we still talking bout this game?

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад +4

      Mmm yes

    • @TastyNuggets554
      @TastyNuggets554 4 месяца назад +3

      Yeah because it’s the best Asym game right now

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 3 месяца назад

      @@TastyNuggets554true

  • @DSPHater
    @DSPHater 4 месяца назад +6

    Way to make a 10 minute video blabbering about how hands isn't op and at 9:47 completely contradict everything you just said by saying what everyone else was already saying that wants him nerfed.👏👏

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 4 месяца назад +6

      Oh come on you’re just nit picking at this point. The victims in the video are whining about really big non-issues like not being able to pointlessly tamper an exit or taunt the family at the door before they shut it. Increasing the rip stall cool-down is a reasonable request in a small amount. Way to make a comment nit picking things you don’t understand from a well put together video and then pull an Einstein by pointing out that somehow this guy doesn’t think he’s OP but could use some tweaking (which makes sense, not all game mechanics that need a nerf are OP)

    • @DSPHater
      @DSPHater 4 месяца назад

      @@RhyzVids Everyone on reddit asks for a cooldown increase. This Timmy guy wants a cooldown increase. The creator of the video wants a cooldown increase. He calls out a group of people that want the same thing as him. Might as well look into a mirror and call out whoever he sees looking back. Fuck is the point of the video? He ran his pussyflap how Hands shouldn't be nerfed so fast, and proceeded to echo the same complaints everyone else has. There's nothing to defend. Well put together video my dickhole.

    • @tomjohnson4822
      @tomjohnson4822 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@RhyzVids don't bother arguing with idiots.. the fact that this video even exists (sorry choy, good content as always) is laughable if it wasn't so frustrating.
      He's FAR from OP. The fact that anyone thinks so leads me to believe they are actually just children. Snot nose brats that don't actually understand asym balance, or willingly whine to get the odds back in their favor instead of having an even playing field and more interesting core game.
      Anyone who says hands needs anything. Even a cool down imo is that... That's the image in my head. A snotty whiny brat that throws a tantrum when they don't get their way.
      Me and my fiance play TCM, maybe once or so a week... Haven't had an issue with hands at all. And if two people can escape him with comms I KNOW 4 with comms is a breeze. Balancing around people not willing to use comms isn't something devs should do.

    • @DSPHater
      @DSPHater 4 месяца назад

      @@tomjohnson4822 So what's the point of the video at all? Choy agrees with everybody on this supposedly 0 iq reddit with a cooldown increase. Useless video. If you blow smoke up someone's ass they're gonna think they're great. Stop it. And I sent our totally intelligent Rhyz here a reply. Guess it got deleted cuz I used a few naughty words. Fairies

    • @RhyzVids
      @RhyzVids 3 месяца назад

      @@tomjohnson4822I fully agree but I think all the complaints are coming from solo q so maybe these players just need friends lol

  • @pxnklean8637
    @pxnklean8637 4 месяца назад +6

    It’s a weird thing, the family cries and they hurry and nerf but when victims complain they do nothing, we need both for the game to run

    • @whamster1637
      @whamster1637 4 месяца назад +8

      That's not true, and they're being smart about it knowing when to nerf a character and when not to. They're smart for not listening to most people complaining because of the reasons said in this video.

    • @facundoariasrodriguez2658
      @facundoariasrodriguez2658 4 месяца назад +1

      wdym they hurry and nerf? family cries over connie from day one and she is still the best survivor in the game, when something is unfair they nerf it like the hitchhiker traps in ladders thing.

    • @MomJeans1738
      @MomJeans1738 4 месяца назад

      Biased one side mains like you are corny and cringe. Both sides have bad apples lmao, stop being overdramatic

    • @Jenny_Myers
      @Jenny_Myers 4 месяца назад +3

      @@facundoariasrodriguez2658 you serious? the trap in the ladder literaly glitched the game...

    • @facundoariasrodriguez2658
      @facundoariasrodriguez2658 4 месяца назад

      @@Jenny_Myers it could be fixed without killing the tech, but it was an unfair and unfun tech anyways

  • @DekariChasley
    @DekariChasley 4 месяца назад +1

    First
    Edit: first before kids