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I learned the term "egg" from a transwoman who explained that it started in the trans femme community. The egg cracks and there's a chick inside. That's the original pun. 😊
😂
LMAO
I was simply told that an egg is someone who hasn't realised they're trans, and that made sense to me.
An egg is masking what's inside and inhibiting freedom to be oneself. Once someone realises they might be or that they are trans, the egg cracks and starts showing more and more of the person inside, giving more and more freedom to move, until the shell/mask is dropped completely.
I assume transmen would be dinosaur eggs then
Oh. I always interpreted it as a shell that you come out of
Transphobic person: *blurts transphobic stuff* why do you even want to be a man
Me: well you’re a guy, right? Imagine being a woman, you’d be uncomfortable, right?
Transphobic person: no, I’d enjoy it, but everyone feels that way right
Me: …
Transp̷h̷o̷b̷i̷c̷ person: ..right..?
Edit: Im getting bottom surgery soon ^^ I just wanted you guys to know that this WAS from personal experience, and in fact, I found out I was transmasc in quite the same way, except I wasn’t openly a bigot (when I was.) it just makes me feel SO understood that so many people are going through this same shit. And to anyone who comments and says anything about their experience, how they found out or any stuff like that; I want you to know I AM reading those and I wish you all the best of luck no matter how far you are in your life or transition or whatever you’re going through ^^
Oh buddy, do I have news for you
*quiet cracking sounds *
Really no. There has never been a molecules of a wish to be male, i am a woman abd gid help you if you tell me a girl can't, because I'll just do it bigger, louder, and in a pinker dress.
crossing out "phobic" is a nice touch lol
My mom: [Says transphobic stuff to me because she knows I’m LGBT+, but not sure which letter.]
Mom: And if I knew about transgenderism when I was a kid, I would have easily been indoctrinated. [describes being a tomboy… with some transmasc thoughts thrown in there like not wanting to be perceived as a girl or wanting a flat chest only cause it’s seen as feminine, and only forcing herself to be feminine cause it was “right”]
Me: 🙂… Ok…
_____________
My homophobic youth group leader (female) to the girls in youth group: I had two moms, but I always felt like I was missing something because I didn’t have a father figure.
Me: ok.
Her: Anyway, romantic and sxual attraction are just extensions of platonic feelings but you can choose to have them.
Me, aroace: … no???
Her: And everyone knows women are visually attractive. All girls think girls are attractive. It’s normal. You just need to choose your attraction to guys over your attraction to girls.
Me, who has never thought that about women: um… ma’am, I think you’re a bit confused…
{of course, I did not say anything, because it wouldn’t have been safe to at the time}
Having eggs for dinner today. I cracked a while ago, but is it still cannibalism?
I think you're safe from cannibalism for now, as long as you are no longer an egg.
A cracked egg is still an egg…sooo I have some bad news for u 🥲
@@2percentth0thmm but they have evolved past the egg, does that mean no trans person can eat eggs because we've all cracked some time ago?
yeah still cannibalism, also means Gaston is a horrible monster
@@Panguinolucy This is brilliant toke me a minue to get it?
Remember that egg doesn't mean you're trans, or that you aren't. It simply means you're questioning or exploring your gender. There's no pressure one way or another. Some will turn out to still be cis, though cis people who have gone through this exploration tend to make for the best trans allies.
But then if you turn out to be cis, you weren't an egg.
@@taliabutton1593 Yes you were, the egg isn't about the result, it's about the process.
Cis people crack their egg too but they hatch the "expected" way so they don't question it much and it doesn't get much attention since it felt right from the start of the process.
The basic use is in retrospect, "wow I was such an egg", just means unknowingly in denial or repressed. Once you know you're trans, you've hatched, and then you go "oh I was egg".
Or at least that's the original kind of use. People like the metaphor enough it just gets stretched WAY past it's real usability, to the point of "identifying" as an egg. If you want to say it's about questioning, I guess fair enough, but that clashes with a lot of how it's still used.
Heyyy that’s me!! I socially transitioned for three years. 15-17. I detransitioned at 17. I have borderline personality disorder, and it makes me pick up the traits of people around me. But that is a me thing,That is not the majority of people. I will always be the first person to try to amplify trans voices, and speak out against transphobia. I also tell people that a big reason why I didn’t make a mistake in transitioning physically, is because my parents allowed me to go to gender therapy which allows me to deal with all these issues. I will always advocate for people having access to treatment, and being respected. Makes me happy that you noted that. 🥰
@@xdani_thethinkingnekoI love people coming to understand themselves more 🎉
"I wish I was a cute lesbian" is something I said as a "straight" cis woman. Lol
For me it was a very cis thought... Just... Also a closeted gay thought. 😅🌈
(Also if anyone needs to hear this- I'm married to a beautiful woman. I did realize my cute lesbian dreams and you can too! We love you ❤️)
"does Canada have bears?"
Me, a Canadian, laughs incredulously
We have so many bears we have a territory where the license plate is shaped like a polar bear 😂😂😂
I’ve actually never heard someone ask that. Usually I see just people from the states thinking we have polar bears instead of vehicles 🤨 Jammi’s question makes a lot more sense 😅
-edit: spelling
so it's russia #2?
@@Idknlandwh123only naturewise tho the rest is pretty far away from each other
No bears in Wales..... Just rainnnnnn 🤿🎣
I initially misread this as "Does Canada have beers?" In either case, yes, many.
I'm afab genderfluid and I cut my hair into a "boy's" haircut a few months ago and normally i get clocked as a tomboy, but yesterday a lil boy called me "mister" and the euphoria is great y'all.
I’m guessing you get bullied
Early in the pandemic I was waiting outside a pharmacy and the small child next in line asked their parents "why is that man so short?". The parents were really apologetic, but I was really happy that the child perceived me as a man while I was wearing a mask.
Also, being "misgendered" helped me realise I was trans, because I couldn't understand why people were so apologetic when they realised.
@@playerrequiem4120i was actually lol but for being autistic not for being nongenderconforming (i am, for reasons unknowable, conventionally attractive and have become a "fashion icon" in school. its really weird and i don't get why people think its so innovative to wear fun colors.)
Why don't you like being a girl? Do you not like them?
@@kaspianepps7946 "Also, being 'misgendered' helped me realise I was trans"
That was one of my clues, too. I'm NB agenderfluid and never understood why people seemed horrified or offended on my behalf for their own "mistake." It was always just "yeah okay whatever" to me.
Best advice I ever got was “IF YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE FAKING IT, YOU’RE NOT“ this goes for “am I just doing it because all my friends are trans?” (That was my dilemma) or “Do I just want to be different?” Etc. etc. faking it is a conscious choice. If you’re not sure if you’re faking it, you aren’t faking it.
Thanks for this! It makes so much sense!
Honestly the best follow up to your advice is this goes so well for people with mental disabilities/disorders too. A lot of us have been pushed away from these labels because we don't fit the standardized portrayal of such illnesses (like autsims and adhd in my case) that most of us feel like we're faking it because we don't have it as bad. The point is faking something would make you uncomfortable. Like for me I could dress super boyish but I could not pretend to be a guy for one second. I'm super feminine and bubbly. But on the other hand if someone asked me to stop pretending to be mentally disabled I couldn't. If someone asked me to not stim or to look in their eyes I'd be mad. Because I can't control these actions most of the time. It's not my fault. I'm guessing it's the same for trans people.
Thank you for this. My child has just told me they’re a trans woman and she has trans friends so it did cross my mind. I 100% love my children and I will love them no matter what so I felt incredibly guilty when I was secretly upset when they told me, scared I was losing the child I’ve known for almost 18 years. It’s actually day 2 of me knowing and I am feeling better and I’m determined to help my daughter be the woman she tells me she is.
I feel like my bi card is going to get revoked because I haven't dated a girl since early high school
@@msjkrameythe people you have dated does not determine your sexuallity. Sexuallity is who you're attracted to, not the people you're together with. You could call yourself bi even if you had never even held hands with a girl.
When i first learned what a TERF was i felt so betrayed and i thought it was just because im a really good trans rights ally 🥚
Haha, so relatable. This was how my egg started cracking too.
This for me, but with transphobia in general. I was just like, I may not fully understand, but why the hell be mean to them and misgender on purpose, when being polite and using the terms and name they request costs me literally nothing? It does no good for anyone and just makes people upset? So, like, why not be nice? Being nice is free, transphobia takes effort, so just... be nice? Be civil? Be respectful? It doesn't cost a dime. Took me a long time to understand not every cis person who feels that way about transphobia feels it out of a belief that trans people are perfectly normal and everyone wishes they weren't their birth sex sometimes, trans people are just the ones brave enough to do something about it.
Well, its just a pretty interesting divide and conquer strategy, also with the tendency that the left is way more chaotic and disunited than the "keep things as they are" or "go back to the good old days" crowds
what’s a TERF?
I think there was more than a few things that made me realize I'm nonbinary. But seeing transphobia and feeling personally hurt by it whenever I saw it was definitely one of them
That text convo with all the “yes” answers reminds me of the scene with Patrick denying it’s his wallet lmao 🤦🏻♂️
I was assigned a mistake at birth
@@DinosaurNickmake them regret saying that by being more awesome then they ever were or will be.
The "is it attraction or envy" thing was such a mess for me when I was a teen. Turns out I'm asexual. It was all 100% envy all along, but even harder to tell when you don't feel any attraction to compare it to.
As a gay trans man I can feel your struggle.
It's so hard to figure both out at the same time.
I'm not an egg (anymore), but I'd probably be one of those raw eggs. Cause it's all gender fluid inside. 🤣
Somehow mine's gotten spilled... and my mum's mad at me for not somehow keeping it solid and that it got onto her nice carpets.
this made me laugh so much I love genderfluid puns
I’m a scrambled egg. Gender is all mixed up in here lol.
Random thought: if gay trans femmes are called transbians, does that mean gay trans mascs would be called trays?
yes we are food trays
As a transbian, I support this.
The stars were aligned for me specifically to be called a tray:
☆Trans
☆MLM
☆Has a degree as a baker
☆Has a love for puns
Now whenever someone asks for a tray, I can just walk in and go "I hear my presence was requested?"
@@RZDraws ha! I love it
@@RZDraws*the chosen one has arrived to fullfill the prophecy*
For me, I think the point of cracking was understanding that most women actually enjoy calling themselves women, instead of feeling like an impostor. I still don't quite know where I fit in, but it's somewhere outside of the binary.
Me, too!!!🤗
Yeah, this. I didn't notice as a child, because "boy" and "girl" are both... not *correct* but *acceptable,* but I figured it out pretty quick as an adult because "woman" is so *wrong* and "man" is even worse.
Same, women or men aren't incredibly wrong for me, but they also don't feel like they should? Its just feeling weird.
Oh, look, it's my people! Isn't it comforting to know you're not the only one? I had a late night conversation with my best friend in middle school. I can't remember what I said, but she said "are you sure you're supposed to be a girl?" And I said "no, but I don't think I'm supposed to be a boy either." She paused for a second and said "that's ok. I'm pretty sure I'm both."
As a woman in my mid 50's I've always felt a mixture of feminine and masculine, as do many of my friends because we grow up in a unique community where women are not expected to conform to gender stereotypes. I was very aware of girls and women being objectified, especially when my older sister hit puberty, so I was aware at about the age of 9 how girls and women are treated in society. My own personal view is that if we binned gender stereotypes then most people would feel a mixture of masculine and feminine.
I chose the name Luke when I transitioned, almost 18 years ago 😵😵💫 I told my dad in an email. His response was:
"Luke, I am your father"
😂😂 I didn't pick the name because of Star Wars, but I thought that was a nice way of saying he accepted me. He was the first family support I had. It took my mom 4 years to start calling me Luke. My birth name was the same first initial, so she referred to me as "L." for 4 years after I started taking hormones. I don't know why it was such a surprise or big deal, when I was a child, everyone thought I was a little boy. Unfortunately she would "correct" them.
And, I have a bit of perspective on the saying "I wish I was x" rather than "I am x". When I was a kid, I always told my mom I wanted to be a boy. I was born in '82, so there weren't really any therapists that said anything helpful to my mom. She took me to a few.
The reason I didn't say "I *am* a boy" is because I knew I didn't have the same anatomy as a boy, so I couldn't claim to be one.
My mom would always say, "well you only said you wanted to be a boy, not that you were one" it's like... Come on! 😂
Wanting to be a boy, is a pretty damn obvious symptom of... being a freakin boy. Your mum is a total idiot on this one. Sorry about that, mate. Mums are supposed to provide hugs, not hate. I'd say you could borrow mine but she's pretty overworked as is and I kinda need her.
Yeah, I can relate to that, in mirror image. I never said "I *am* a girl" because I knew anatomy, and I didn't know that sex and gender could be different.
Before you can say "I am a girl/boy" instead of "I want to be a girl/boy", you need to know that it is actually possible. Kinda like "you can't be what you can't see". Saying it's not a trans thing if you only want to be something else is awfully gatekeeping.
@@zoyonaraYeah, I think somehow, deep down, I still don't believe it's possible that I can be a woman. So I keep looking for changes from HRT in the mirror, because if I *look* like a woman, then maybe I'll really believe it's possible.
@@electronics-girl It can be such a struggle when you've been told your entire life that the possible is impossible. But you're valid and beautiful and I wish you the best on your journey
The one about getting chased by bears? I can't help but picture a bunch of burly, hairy gay guys.
And the egg rolling up the hill? I suppose that would be Cis-iphus, instead of Sysiphus.
Take care, all you sweet little eggs!
Chased by bears is my kink now ❤️🔥
Love this comment so much ❤
I’m not an egg but thank you and you take care too!
14:01 fun fact! Another plural word for octopus is "octopodes", and that one is my favorite to say.
And is probably the most technically correct ones, since the root of the word is Greek, but the ending 'i' is Latin.
YES I literally came here to comment this! I love octopodes (both the word and the animals) so much 🐙
I did know that and it’s awesome! But… does that means the plural of platypus is platypodes?
I think the biggest thing about the egg metaphor is that you can’t smash an egg and expect that to work. It has to hatch by itself… even if you KNOW there’s a baby bird in there, you can’t get it out before IT IS TIME.
Absolutely true, although I wish someone had incubated me better, or something. I was ready to hatch 25 years ago if I had been in the right environment, but I wasn't.
Leave people time to discover themselves. I only discovered I was enby in my 20's.
I have a sneaking suspicion that my friend (younger than me) is also trans but I can't tell them obviously. It's their choice. Maybe they're just a really passionate ally. (We've all been there)
@@electronics-girl yeah I relate to that
*yeeesssssss*
I’ve seen people trying to force others to crack, even though that’ll only kill the chick inside
instead, you can help the egg by providing a safe place for it to hatch into, such as how a mother bird will keep its nest warm and safe
My life has improved after encountering such an adorable metaphor
My eggiest moment: "I wish I was trans so I could partake in this subreddit, their memes are so relatable"
I guess you can now!
I see eggs as Digimon. You are one small and cute being at the beginning, crack that egg and you come out as a godly/furry/mecha/etc powerfull beast.
Digimon actually introduced me to the concept of gender as a social construct, specifically the iconic line spoken by Renamon in Digimon Tamers. Digital lifeforms and artificial general intelligence wouldn't need biological sexes, and their gender would depend on the social roles and relationships they take on. Different dubs of Digimon have interpreted the same character as feminine or masculine, and a particular digimon could be any gender despite having the same appearance, like the Piyomon in Savers being masculine while the one in Adventure is feminine.
I personally interpreted them all as nonbinary by default. Except when it comes to their code.
wow, digimon was part of my childhood but did not knew that. now im loving it even more @@FrozEnbyWolf150
And you shouldn't worry if it takes time, a Digimon egg takes 5-7 transformations before it reaches its complete form.
Or sometimes the powerful beast is an attractive woman.
That Digimon also digivolve into different forms at different times appeals to me
:3 bears are actually really good at swimming
But would probably not have enough stamina to swim across an ocean.
@Stachelbeeerchen fair point, I guess it depends where the island would be, if it's in the middle of an ocean then you would probably be pretty safe from bears
Stop making me want bear hugs, damnit. (Wet bears are sooo damn cute, either dripping wet and in need of a wringing out, or that spiky wet fur they have after shaking like dogs.)
Of course hairy gay men can swim. ;)
"humans take 10 minutes to drown in water :3"
One of the best lesbiam relashionships is a leopard and a black panther couple thats been together for four years. They adopt abbandoned or orphaned cubs. ❤
"Jungle huntress lesbians come together and protect orphan child" sounds like a fun animated show premise.
Aww, that's cute!
@@Montesama314actually it could be a very Disney classic story. Two panther ladies saving all the cubs. But in true Disney fashion it would end with "And they were just friends"
@@nikitatavernitilitvynova Ah, doing a "Raya."
@@nikitatavernitilitvynova Or just a short documentary. I haven't seen one with felines, but there was a huge uproar years ago surrounding two gay penguins adopting an orphaned chick. Religious and otherwise conservative people thought it shouldn't get much attention and it shouldn't be shown to children. Which had the adequate Barbara Streisand effect.
Or at least I think it was an orphaned chick. Cishet penguins are known for stealing eggs if they can't produce one themselves 🤣They're quite awful 🤣Almost like people. But I don't think they steal hatched chicks.
The query: do I want to DATE him or do I want to be LIKE him also applies to us (cis) gay folk.
I'm quite old and I still get caught in that quandry.
Same for bisex. I didn't actually think about that until you mentioned it, but I do catch myself wondering that with someone I see every couple of weeks. But hey, you can do both :) I can be more sexy like him and enjoy how attractive he is.
My voice getting lower is literally the only perk of getting sick.
usually when my voice gets low because of sickness, I intentionally don't take any meds to cure it until it gets so bad breathing becomes painful
@@hollischeblume6393tbh I do the same, but my voice becomes even more fucked up because I use the opportunity to be able to reach lower notes in songs
Very frequently
same
I am actually one of the ancient ones (not really, 34) who first learned about trans people not on the Internet but in a transpositive article in my mom's feminist magazine
We finally meet!
I’m also an ancient one (nonbinary)…
Let us reminisce about the before days, away from the sights of these poor mortals 😊
I 💗 your pfp. I've encountered your kin. Love them little guys.
I first learned about trans people from the Phil Donahue show (a US talk show) in the 80s & 90s. The show was huge at the time. Now I’m not sure how many people even know what I’m talking about.
I'm more ancient (49) and I wish I had learned about trans people in a positive way, but I mostly learned through transphobic jokes and such, which just pushed me further into the closet and self-denial.
@@electronics-girl I am sorry to hear that. I was lucky to grow up in an open-minded progressive household. I'm a cis woman but I feel that had I expressed these sentiments my parents would have accepted them.
You helped me accept myself a few years ago and broke my egg!! I still love this subreddit thanks for covering it!
Also yes as a Canadian I can confirm we have lots of bears.
the animal kind or the human kind?
@@advanceringnewholder both.
I can also confirm, we have bears… so many bears of both varieties, you merely must look for them
I never got the whole egg thing. I was assigned gay at birth.
I was assigned a baby at birth 😔
@@Jroobelucios im sorry for your loss
I was assigned body at birth 😢
I was assigned a typo at birth
This reminds me of a very inappropriate joke
My egg cracked, then exploded, during the great mask and tp panic.
Yeah, as a Canadian we definitely have bears in our country, the animals too, lol.
I asked my mum as a child when I came home from school in grade primary "Was I supposed to be a girl?"
When I was younger I was like, I love Sailor Moon and want to be a sailor scout, but I'm definitely still a boy.
Then I was like, I use the girl characters in fighting games and RPGs because they have better moves.
When told that I could be a ballerina as a child by my female cousin, I tucked my t-shirt bottom in through the top and danced my queer little heart out.
It took me until I was in my 30s to finally accept it.
As my way of coming out, I just told my good friends to call me levi all the time, even infront of people that dont know so now most people started using levi for me
My transmasc cousin chose the same name as you
Memes is how I realized A LOT of what I do is common ADHD behavior. I had looked into an ADHD diagnosis years before but it was a no. Memes got me into following ADHD content and I found out that girls/women often go undiagnosed bc many ppl and Dr's believe it to be a "boy thing." But I learned what to bring up as concerns and that it's ok to go to different doctors, so yay for memes ❤
Trans guy here. I was militant about _always_ playing a girl character my entire life. As a feminist and someone who felt guilty about not loving being a woman it honestly felt like a duty to play fem characters and represent chicks in gaming. Gender suppression pre-egg can be so weird.
For me I picked the girl character cuz a ton of pro gamers choose the female ones and I thought that was a badass thing to do lol
Damn, this is confusing me even more! I figured, you know, if I am trans, then the reason I always played girls in games was cause I'm autistic; rigid to the rules. Or because I was hiding behind my shell. Or because girl's outfits in games were always really pretty, and I sometimes say to myself: I'm a gay man in a chick's body, who appreciates feminine clothing and aesthetics. But nothing felt more euphoric for me as a kid than dressing like a "tomboy" and getting muddy, only to be hosed off, tousled in a towel and then monotropically build with Lego till dinner, to which I'd be reminded to act "like a lady" at the table cause I was a messy eater and I'd pout through the rest of the meal.
Still can't tell, and dysphoria is really kicking my backside atm, but remembering the things that gave me euphoria as a kid kinda helps, like when my music teacher would call me Andre instead of Audrey. Thought it was strange, cause I never asked her to and it wasn't my first choice for a name, she just started calling me that.
Also, I go back n forth on being a cis women's rep, enby rep, or trans guy's rep. Suppose it's easier that I don't play games online..
In video games I would pick the girl character around my family because I didn't want to get teased, but on my own I would switch my character to a boy character. Unless it was MarioKart. I would FIGHT to get Yoshi.
I would always play the girl character but make them lesbians whenever possible 😂😂 or play the boy just so I could court the ladies 🤣🤣
I like to play girl characters so I can court the boy characters but, otherwise I prefer playing boy characters in video games.
Yes, Yoshi is the best in Mario Kart!
Well if you were playing the n64 mario kart then there is only peach as a girl character so it wouldn't be that suspicious😂 i'm always bowser because i hate pink 😂
I submit to you the original Nintendo Super Mario 2 game. I choose the character that would best complete the current level. Luigi had a goofy high jump. Toadstool could dig really fast. The princess could float ridiculously far on a single jump. Can't remember Mario's power. Maybe he ran faster?
WHEN HE SAID THAT THATS WHERE MULAN COULDVE GONE I WAS LIKE YESSSS THATS WHERE IT SHOULDVE GONE
Idk about if I’m trans or not because sometimes I wanna be a boy and sometimes I wanna be a girl and I recently just looked in the mirror and told myself “I am all!”
Have you ever heard of being genderfluid? You can feel like a boy on some days, a girl on others, and maybe even not like either at all, or like both. It kinda depends on the day. (Also I'm not actually genderfluid, so I could be getting the description a little off, but that's the gist of what I've read about it.)
sounds like you might be bigender or genderfluid! whatever you identify with, just know that you dont have to be only one or the other ^^
And that is an excellent thing to be. You're not alone in this feeling at all. You might want to look up nonbinary identities, and see which common labels fit you the best so you can more easily connect to other people with similar experiences. But "I am all!" is certainly a good start. Just in time for Pride too!😊
Everyone has those moments, especially girls in your teenage years and early 20's.
Well whatever your chromosomes say that’s what you OBJECTIVELY are. It’s not debatable.
As an agender person, my egg journey was fascinating...
Me: *Can't understand why girls want boobs*
Me: *Blurts transphobic things about how there are only 2 genders*
Me: *Identifies as cis*
Me: *Feels weird about the word cis*
Me: *Has dream that my chest is flat*
Me: *Identifies as a demi girl... still girl, though*
Me: *Tells people to call me she/they*
Me: *Gets uncomfy when people only call me she/her*
Me: *Gets instant euphoria when that one person calls me they/them*
Me: *Discovers I don't identify with any gender*
Me: *Is agender and goes by they/per/e*
My family: Still a girl!
Me: *Cuts out half my family so I can be happy*
your family sucks but congrats for finding yourself!
Thanks!@@everfluctuating
Yes! Literally, I'm like dresses no, but skirts, maybe?; high heels, NO, makeup NO; nail polish, YES; lipstick, yesn't; long hair, maybe?; short hair, maybe?; cute accessories, yes! Pink not really;, blue omg YES, purses, meh, fanny packs and wallets, yes, piercings NO@@Nonotherethanks
What is per and e? If you don't mind, I haven't seen that before.
I want boobs because they're soft and squishy and fun and beautiful!
Watching boobs grow is like watching paint dry, though. Progress is so slow!
Here's a happy story - my egg cracked after 20+ years of being an "ally". I had spent so long feeling I didn't really fit any category to finally realise I can just live in and honour my fluidity. When I told my parents (who are in their 70s) they responded with - we've been waiting a long time for this and "well of course gender isn't as simple as some people say". They blew me away. 🌈🏳🌈💓 (Very thankful to all the trans and gender diverse people in my life who helped me finally see I was NOT having cis thoughts 😆)
I got called a girl like three times today! I wasn't even girlmoding!
I hope it was a good thing and not that you were getting misgendered 💜
@@davidmanning4759 don't worry it was a good thing
@@gone_mad-tryagainlater so glad to hear that 💜
I think the problem with the question "Are you that gender" is that it can exclude non-binary people. In a strings of questions it makes sense but for me for example (transmasculine enby) that's actually the main reason I stayed an egg for some time. Because I knew I hated being a girl, I knew I wasn't a girl, I knew that if I was it certainly was a different one to what was normal. I knew I'd much rather be a boy and I'd even wanted to be one. But I wasn't one. And I still feel strange saying that. Like some times I will be able to say "as a man/male" and things like that but it's often for clarity's sake I'll feel those words about 80-90%.
Granted if I said "as a woman/female" I feel those words -20% but still.
It's another kind of weird to have dysphoria and to know something's wrong but to just have no idea what you are. I was in denial about being trans cuz I knew of the general binary concept and it just didn't feel like me. Now it kinda does because I have just so much in common with trans men the difference is really small but back then the same difference could feel monumental.
Exactly. I hate people asking me my gender. I'd prefer to be asked my pronouns. I'm transmasc/transneutral agender.
Yoooo, fellow transmasc agenders! What's up?
Struggled with this feeling for nearly 2 decades (since high school, turning 33 this year) until I also settled with transmasc/neutral agender. Complicating matters for me even more is that I have 2 kids and being "mommy" to them is the only label that feels right, but then I prefer "partner" over "wife." And while I'm not gonna throw a fit when she/her is used, I'm filled with elation when people actually use he/they. I've also yet to do any kind of real transitioning (just had baby #2, am BFing so it'll still be a while) and feel kind of like a fraud.
I've quietly changed my pronouns on discord and facebook but I don't think anyone's really noticed.
@@DinosaurNickthis is the first time i’ve seen the word transneutral, i didn’t know it was a thing. I’m transmasc enby. Transneutral do makes sense because i don’t see myself binary trans though i don’t mind transman. I remember watching some ftm tiktok compilations on youtube, they said that i can redefine what masculinity means to me. That sorta helps me differentiate between cis and trans men. I’m still learning. I’m 29 so i kinda realized a bit later why all the times i think i daydreamed as a male and i have wrote rp as gay male ocs. I’ve always been an enby since 18 and probably before though i think i didn’t have much knowledge of transgender. I think i was already trans before i knew what trans really mean to me.
I was thinking that too. If you're asking someone in "still cis tho" mode gender-related questions, there's a good chance they're not gonna answer "are you [suspected gender]" with a yes
The very first crack in my egg was when I used a masculine word in front of my partner at the time, and he said I couldn't. He said he knew "people like that" and I was not one of them. I had no idea what he was tallking about. I didn't know transgender.
I lived as an enby with my asigned body and name for a few years, but recently I chose to change my name and take medical steps. I still think about sending him a thank you message for cracking my egg, with my new passing, someday, just to piss him off.
I remember that when i was in 7th grade, i found out how to make a diy binder (it didnt use "binder" but it used two sports bras and a spaghetti strap undershirt), and my first thought was "oh wow! I can use this to cosplay as dudes!" And then proceeded to use it during most of the summer. I used it so much that i think my sister took one of them, so i couldn't do it anymore. A few years later, i found out about trans people, and my egg cracked, and now im an enby.
The egg thing was very literal for me. Back before I realized I was trans (and very femme), I was dating a trans guy. One day, he told me, "I like how you perform your gender." At that moment, I felt the top of my aura crack like the top of an egg. It's like someone took a nail and tapped it with a hammer, and the top cracked like an egg would, and I felt my aura to be egg-shaped. I didn't know what to make of that experience and just shrugged and ignored it until years later when I was coming out as a trans man and heard the egg analogy. It made me wonder if it was a common enough experience that it was that way for others, too.
What an odd thing for him to say
It was a compliment coming from the idea that all gender is a performance. I think it was the first time I really encountered that idea viscerally and not conceptually, which is what triggered the egg cracking. Suddenly, I saw that I had created a persona based on who society wanted me to be and not who I actually am but I did;t have the words for that awareness until years later.@@montanalemaitre4451
That people think being trans is a choice or trend is insane. I've heard something similarly annoying from my former therapist that me being demisexual was just me being romantic and my choice. No it isn't! I really wish it was! Because I do have a libido and don't know what the hell am I supposed to do with it! 😂
I somehow almost forgot it was Wednesday today
Saaaame 😭
Fr I keep on thinking it’s Thursday for some reason
It's Wednesday, my dudes 🐸
Same lol
It was wensday today? I am so lost
in the first Splatoon game, octolings were the villains no questions asked. in the second Splatoon game it was revealed octolings were actually brainwashed and some managed to integrate into inkling society just fine without issue (tho hid they were octolings). in the third game inklings and octolings were very intermingled (tho still distinct) and there was no need to hide being an octoling; there were also gender neutral bathrooms (that can't even be reached in-game) revealed well before the game released and a bunch of ppl decided to absolutely despise the game as a result despite having always been able to change ur inkling's/octoling's gender
I never knew anything about Splatoon and now I want to play it.
It's funny that you thought of Austin Powers, because there's actually a classic James Bond film called Octopussy…
i thought this exact thing
On the topic of having issues with your assigned gender but not wanting to be the other gender: I'm cis female and the only daughter with two older brothers. When I was little we lived with my father for a while and he was very abusive and a huge misogynist. He made me very much ashamed of my gender to the point of wanting to be "like the boys". I hated dresses, played with boys toys, didn't cry because "boys don't cry". Lots of things. But at the same time I was absolutely terrified of being a boy. I would think, "What if God saw this and made me a boy?" and then I'd immediately pray (yeah I was raised Christian) to him to NOT do that. I had nightmares of suddenly waking up with boy parts. Because no matter what horrible view of my gender my father had given me I still WAS a girl. I had issues with my view of women until my 20s but I never wanted to be a man. No matter how much "easier" it might have been for me to be a boy it simply wasn't an option because it's not who I am. If I can feel that way about my assigned gender why can't someone else feel that way about a gender other than that which they were assigned? I don't get why transphobes don't get that but maybe it's because they never had reason to question it that deeply.
Now as for me figuring out I'm bi.... lol.
I had a really weird dream once where a demon prince came to Earth and accidentally turned me into a girl. There was a mad scientist who was trying to kidnap me and study how the demon prince transformed me. At one point, the mad scientist turned the women's toilet into some sort of weird scanner. The demon prince smashed it, and then kicked everyone out of the men's room so I could go to the bathroom. That wasn't the first time I had a dream with an entire narrative. Like to some extent that might have been my brain trying to cope with me being trans, but typing that out, the mad scientist sounds pretty trans too. Or at least trying to help trans people. If I ever dream a sequel, maybe I won't run, and just set down some rules for my volunteering for studies. I can help the dream trans people that way.
Polar bears, at least, are very strong swimmers.
Gotta live on a dirigible.
Me at 17: I'm picking the girl because they're more nimble and can move faster
Me now: 👧 Happy Trans girl
This is what I could find online: Blåhaj's first links to the trans community can be traced as far back as 2020 when one Reddit post shared a cartoon featuring the shark with the caption: "Blåhaj is an ally", due to the shark being the same colors as the trans flag.
Took me a minute to realize that "bears" meant the animal, not the people.
And in regards to the the current discourse: man or bear in the forest, it would still be an applicable choice. I would rather have bears chase me than phobic men. At least bears won't fetishise me.
24:23 no same, I’m nonbinary (transmasc) and constantly think “mm, I could grow some epic facial hair.”
The "is" vs "wants to be" thing I view more as an affirmation thing if and when you've figured yourself out. I feel it's a bit counter productive to trample on someone's choice of words when they're expressing their perception of their feelings, especially when it's early in the awakening. I certainly went from "I want to be" to "yup, I absolutely am", but not before a period of self doubt fueled by looking into forum threads where a non-zero amount of people said "you *know* when you're young, it doesn't just manifest later."
Yep, definitely in that sorta headspace: am I really trans or is this dysphoria a new thing... that only really started at puberty because trans guys always seem to be adamant about being a boy from the moment of speaking coherently?
@@audreydoyle5268 I was like 28 or 29 before I recognized it for what it was. In hindsight I can spot the signs being there earlier, but I sure as shit didn't know.
There was this horrid guy I used to know that actually told me I COULDNT identify as female(even though I am one and cis) because I wasnt obediant, submissive and compliant to his needs. For ages, I felt like my female side shut down whenever he was about and I wondered if this is what it feels like to be a Vulcan? Your emotions become closed off and you are cold and distant around people. I was like this for ages til I met a younger guy and suddenly it was like the dormant programming came back online at FULL volume. I was still female I just wasnt a stereotypical version of female. I learned female can be feral, dark and dangerous as well as pretty, quiet and obediant.The bad guy demanded, yes DEMANDED, that I ID as Non Binary so guys wouldnt think they had a chance with me when they had no chance but if I was female, then any guy should be able to sleep with me. I am Cis Gendered Aro/Ace, rare I know but we do exist and the problem was, I had ZERO attraction to this guy. Decades later, surviving an abusive relationship(the only one, I had the sense to opt out after that) and going through Chemo/Radical Radiotherapy to beat Inflammatory Breast Cancer(All clear now) I found I had ZERO sexual interest or attraction now for anyone instead of a low level(Thyroid this was your fault) because a little known side effect of Cancer treatment is it kills off your libido and makes you infertile. This guy then says, well if you arent interested in sex and you cant have kids, you arent female anymore, you're NB and its time you admitted it. SOD OFF! If my mindset shifts and one day I decide, I dont feel female anymore I might take on the TRIPLE AAA label, instead of the double AA that I currently have but it wont because I refused to sleep with a small minded, obsessive, possessive little prick like that guy. He's married now, has a kink mistress and is STILL after me. Funny, if you think I'm not female, I'm NB, why are you STILL chasing me? Aren't I the opposite of what you want? Is it my fault that my femaleness came out in a more primal version of itself and not in the ordered stereotypical way that society says we should be? (sorry for the rant)
What a creep! Sorry you've had to go through that.
The Girl Who Pretended To Be A Boy is a really old story featured in the violet fairy book, and she actually does turn into a prince at the end. Also it's been speculated that Tolkien was loosely inspired by this story when he wrote Eoywyn pretending to be a man to join the other Rohirrim in the war.
I saw a video about that recently! My ADHD brain can't remember who it was by.
As a kid i always played the guy characters in games despite wanting to play as a girl cause i was scared of people would notice i was playing a girl and question me and i was reaaaaally scared of that for some reason 😂
Tbh, same lol
Relatable
Yes, that was me, too. I always stayed away from pink or anything unmasculine, because I was terrified that people would think (correctly) that I wanted to be a girl.
huh, i did the exact same thing, although my excuse now is that one of the genders has better voice acting/is the canon option
i think im going to do this for the mass effect trilogy...
I legit printed off 30 pages of memes about ADHD and ASD and took them in when seeking diagnosis...
Really, that plus the 7 page chart of how I demonstrated autistic traits at each phase of life probably should have been enough to diagnose ASD...
If I ever have the money to see a therapist, I'm doing this.
As a trans guy, I always played a save file with the girl and boy character to see if the gameplay was any different
Watching this channel is actually how my egg cracked. Thank you.
I’m 28 and I just realized I’m trans last year. My egg cracking was very exciting and emotional, thank you for giving us freshly hatched lads some love ❤
Ive had a few cis people tell me that they dont care about what pronounce and then use that as an excuse to continually missgender me. I feel like what they're actually saying is "unlike you 😏 I dont need to tell people my pronounce because I look like my gender" its so fucking hurtful. I like to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe they are actually truly trying to seem supportive and not being purposefully hurtful but please cis people stop saying this and start making an effort to respect peoples pronounce (trying doesn't meen getting it right every time but it does mean not rolling your eyes when youre being corrected)
With your friends, yes, I would expect them to respect your wishes but you can't make the whole rest of the world adapt to your own personal view of how you see yourself because there are many people who think the whole pronouns and misgendering thing has gone too far.
You can only say what your own pronouns are, not other people's (mistakes can happen but if it keeps happening after being corrected that's not OK).
Personally I would use different pronouns for these people every time you see them (look up some "neopronouns") - either they're questioning their gender in which case you might help them figure it out, or they're bigots who don't actually want to be misgendered.
If you really want to sound sophisticated, use "octopodes." "Octopi" has become accepted but it's a Latin plural attached to a Greek root word. Pedantry is fun!
On the,”I’ve always wanted a second daughter” meme, I know a family that *had* a lot of boys (aka all amab). They didn’t make or adopt any new ones, but in the last couple years they discovered they actually have two daughters. For some reason the parents don’t seem as happy about it as they should have been.
Ugh this is my stepdad. He's come around after several years, but initially he was not happy that my stepbrother is the son he's always wanted all along. My mom is almost hopeless, but she is making some glacially slow progress.
I'm not out as NB yet either (personally I'm waiting until my mom stops using my brother's deadname all the time), so my stepdad actually only has one daughter out of three afab.
What should have clued me in on being transmasc: the desire to be able to put on or take off my breasts as I please. (My egg cracked briefly but got taped back together until it burst open a few years later.)
What should have clued me in on being genderqueer/agender/possibly intersex: really wanting to keep my "female" parts while also wanting "male" parts.
Yeah, the "parts" is whats got me questioning, family and not being sure keeps me where I am currently :/
Seems to me that wanting to be able to take them off and put them back on might also have been a clue for the latter.
@ZipplyZane oh yeah 😅 my therapist at the time knew long before I did, but still supported my decision to start testosterone and have top surgery, both of which have been a huge help with my body dysmorphia.
I'm trans non-binary and I feel the same! I like my breasts, but some days I just want them gone. I like them and don't want to get top surgery, so being able to just choose to have them on or off would be amazing. The same goes for woman clothes and some other stereotypical women things. I'd love to still wear them whenever I want, without being seen as a woman because of them.
@leticiasoaresberwanger9319 Binding (in healthy ways) would probably help, despite the extra layer if you live in a warm climate 😅 I've been wearing "feminine" clothing for a couple of years now and just take out any kind of "bra" padding, and got my ears pierced about a year ago. I still use the men's bathroom if there isn't a unisex option because I'd rather not get fully harassed by bigots, but I'm lucky enough to live in an area where the majority of people are tolerant, if not accepting.
The constant teetering back and forth in my mind between weather I feel like a girl or a guy is insane
Thank you for the Doctor Who clip - that bit pops into my head literally every time I hear the words "big red button"!
The cracking of the egg happened while watching this video omg. I just found out im agender while pondering if i was cis, because i didnt feel non binary, i felt kinda like "just me" or without gender. No joke im in actual tears thank you so much for being that final push i needed
you finding out about splatoon in this video is so funny to me lol
I'm a trans dude and playing the male inkling when I was younger definitely contributed to the egg cracking for me 😅
adding to this: splatoon's fanbase is very lgbt heavy, almost everyone i know who plays it is trans or gay (or both!)
I didn't know what Splatoon is til right now and realised that alot of web comics I loved to reed was about squidling belig gay and trans😮.
Somewhat similar! Callie and Acht made me realize that I'm Pansexual lol
it was so unexpected but i love how much interest he took into it lol
My egg has been cracking the past few weeks i think, this vid drops today and Jamie's book releases the week of my birthday...
Is this universe telling me something????
Not Jammi discovering the most LGBT mainstream game.
Its the humour in memes that makes their content feel safe. Thats how ur meme videos cracked my egg.
I wish I was sunny side up, but mostly feel scrambled :)
Devilish wordplay! Sizzlin! ;^)
That Gru meme about relating to trans memes was one of the first cracks in the egg, and my reposting egg irl memes cracked a friend's as well.
He went from an ace guy to enby and now she's a happy lesbian.
16:45 Hey! this was me who wrote to you for a "trans stories" (or similar) video, I wrote that I was in denial for a long time until I realised I have no incentive to "convince" myself I'm trans, but all of the incentives to do convince myself I'm cis!
Memes cracked my egg. I related to the feelings being expressed by traaaaaaaaaaaaans memes an inordinate amount, and realized that I needed to examine that fact more closely.
1:30 Polar bears can swim. Better make sure it is a tropical island.
But will they be willing to swim there because of the curse? 🤔
@@Warblertownsend They can die of exhaustion if they can't find an ice floe to rest on. Not sure how well they would do over-land in warm climates with their thick coat.
When I was little I really wanted to be a boy (I am AFAB) and I remember telling my parents about that and they kinda didn’t know what to say but we had a long conversation about it and my personal feelings. Many years later a much self reflection? Idk if that’s the word. I have come to the conclusion that I am cis. But the reason I had those feelings was because most of the people I hung out with (this was like mid elementary school- early middle school) were boys and they weren’t always particularly nice about me being a girl. They would tell me I couldn’t have certain interests and the reason I was not socially confident was because I was a girl. (None of that is true) So those weren’t trans thoughts they were just “oh you’re being bullied” thoughts. I thought what they were saying was true because it wasn’t just coming from them. (my mom’s side of the family is VERY sexist. My mom is worlds better but still not perfect.) so I was like “I really wish I was a boy so that I could actually enjoy my interests and be more self confident!” But years of trying to figure that out and learning about the actual trans experience I have learned that I am indeed cis and those people in my life just really sucked lol! I think I can relate to the trans experience though. For years I really wanted to fit into everyone’s expectations for girls. But I had to realize they were wrong and I feel much more myself now! But I cannot imagine how scary it must be to go through that and realize that you actually are trans. As much as my family hates me for what I do (they think it’s my gay friends that made me this way LOL! I am also straight) it would be so much worse if I was trans. You guys are very strong for going through that and still having the courage to say “this is who I am take it or leave it”
As a trans girl who has played a LOT of Splatoon, I loved the part of the video where Jammi just spent like a solid 2 minutes googling what Octolings and Splatoon was lol.
27:21 This is now the secret plot of Stardew Valley, and nothing is going to convince me otherwise.
exposing my most egg quote from high school "it would be super cool if i was a dude. Not that like i want to transition, but i think i'd enjoy my life more if i was just born a dude. But like in a cis way."
same broski ( i knew i was trans but denied it in 3rd grde)
14:23
petition to say "bi" instead of "buses"
just gonna put this out there: My favorite plural for octopus is octopodes. There are three accepted plural forms for octopus in English, you can use whichever you like best or mix and match as you see fit, and that's beautiful.
mfw you realise easter is literally a trans allegory cos there's eggs everywhere and the theme is rebirth
11:14 If I remember the correct fairy tale here, the boy-princess was just "cursed" by the hermit into becoming a different sex. He thought he was turning the boy into a girl, but actually he gave a trans boy a more comfortable body. I've read two different fairy tales involving a princess turning into a man, one Hungarian (I think) and one Danish. In the Danish one there was a ceremony after he got married to another princess that gave him his preferred body and ability to impregnate his wife. I think. It's been a while since I've read either of these. But yeah, trans people are not new in this world.
The Cis have dogged me so much, to the point where I’m frozen in shame and on the edge of tipping myself over the cliff of despair. Your commentary is a counter-force to their ideology - that Cis-het-white should rule and I should not exist - you save me with ur mind and words. My hero. I will adore u forever ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
you are valid and loved
@@DinosaurNick omg u are loved too ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💐💐💐💐💐💐
Please keep existing. We need you here. 🥰
I didn't expect a Doctor Who clip 😭😭😭😭😭 I love you Jammi
Me as a child: I don't really care about my breasts or their size. I'm fine how I am.
Me in puberty (egg): what if I had a flat chest?
Me now: 🧍🏼🏳️⚧️
My egg has been cracked for 9000 years yet I can't leave the egg because of annoying family.
Family can be the people you choose. I hope you reach a point where you can be a more authentic you around found family that support you.
@@beardedbear9901 ✨ exactly. I'm currently trying to move out. It's sooooo difficult in this economy but I'm so close! And then I can go to school and find so many people and take all the hrt I want ✨✨✨
I love how no trans person understands how Blahaj became a meme but at the same time we all have one
Bears can most definitely swim
My timeline in a nutshell:
Feeling good in the clothes of my (ex) bf
Wearing extra tight sports bras to feel like i have a small chest
Realize that i like the way i look
Hyperfemme outfits to "counter" those feelings
Getting depressed bc i know thats not who i am
Order a binder in secret
Learn how to do make up so i look like i have a beard
Only let that out when I'm alone
Still hyperfemme in school
Covid hits
"Am I a boy?"
"Genderfluid"
Switching my gender expression every two weeks
Get a new name (Chris)
Starts using all pronouns
Gets sad when people use she/her
"I'm not Genderfluid"
Only dresses girly for a year
"Definetly cis"
Breaks down every few weeks bc of wanting to be a man so badly
Comes out again as Genderfluid
"Am i really Genderfluid?"
"I can't be a man"
"What am I?"
"I don't like my boobs but my private parts? Cool with that. Don't want the other option"
Still uses all pronouns with a preference for they/them
Still don't know what I am. But at least sometimes very comfy in my body.
Ooo loved reading this
please keep us updated 😮 hope you find yourself and get to be you self everday.
Your journey is so similar to mine! I went through demigirl, genderfluid, genderlibra, genderfluid, genderfaun, agender, genderfluid, and back to agender
I'm agender and use they/them, per/per, e/em/eir pronouns
You'll get there.
Maybe try on the term "transmasculine"? You're right that this doesn't really sound genderfluid, but maybe some other flavor of masc-adjacent nonbinary?
There is genderfaun iirc which is genderfluid but only along masculine identities@@sophiejones3554
I never felt comfortable saying i _was_ a girl, because i was raised to believe it was about genitalia first (lackluster socialisation early on, so i didn't know about social norm differences between boys and girls, i really just thought it was about genitalia). Saying "im a girl" literally didn't make sense to me. But i also didn't want to say i _wanted_ to be a girl, because then people would see me as a boy who wanted to become a girl, and they'd always see me as "actually secretly still a boy, just one who chose to become a girl". If the first one hadn't been an issue, i'd have come out when i was 6. If the second one hadn't been an issue, i'd have come out when i was 11. Instead i came out at 19. Not too upset about that though, because i know i wouldn't have been able to handle my parents or classmates at the time, and testosterone didn't do _too_ much damage, so everything is relatively fine.
Oh also, using the word egg for trans people comes from "eggs hatch into chicks" and then it got expanded to non-transfems.
....I did relate to a trans meme, a few years ago now.... and now my egg is fully cracked
I got two pairs of opera gloves in the mail yesterday, and Jamie posts a video today.
Life is good.
I literally figured out I'm transmasc 3 months ago and I love these 😂. Also this channel has been such a source of happiness for me ❤ thanks Jamie!!!
Welcome to the club!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wishing you a happy New gender 🫶
Yesss welcome to the club
8yr old me, visiting my brother's all-boy school: man, I wish I was a boy...
12yr old me: oh, so that's what that meant (cue the imposter syndrome)
5 year old me: I want to be a Girl Scout
47 year old me: oh, so that's what that meant (I'm really slow)
Me, ca age 10 (and clueless in many ways), visiting my brother at his all-boys school. He introduces me to his friends as his sister, and I get confused. I didn't have a sister, how could anyone else in my family?
"a poached egg". Hilarious! I'm an "older" cis woman and that's always what I've wanted to be but thank you for helping me understand other people and their struggles. And--I love your facial hair!
The eternal struggle, do I fancy them, or do I want to be them
Google lied! Octopi is not a correct plural for octopus. The parts of the word are Octo (eight) and -pus (feet), not Octop and -us. The plural of -us is -i, but the plural of -pus is -podes. So if you don't want to say octopuses you can say octopodes though that is a bit precious. The more you know... ;-)
That is very interesting thank you
Correct me if I'm wrong, but being trans and cross dressing are not the same thing. I believe some of the problems come from people confusing the two. Technically as a cis female, I'm a cross dresser because I only wear men's jeans/cargo pants and tshirts for comfort.
Totally valid.
No, they are not at all the same thing.
Also, the problems don't _come from_ people thinking that trans people and cross dressers are the same thing, that thought is the RESULT of the problems. The idea was entirely born from transphobia, as it operates off the idea that you are the gender you were assigned at birth.
They are mostly two different things. I used to use f1nn5ter as an example of someone who cross-dresses but isn't trans. However, his current situation shows that the line can be blurry, and sometimes trans people can start out by cross-dressing, before they realize more. But it's also totally valid for cis people to cross dress and not be trans.
I would describe you as being gender non conforming. Crossdressers or AGP's are doing it for a s3xual purpose, it is a paraphilia. So the motives are not the same.
OMG SPLATOON MENTIONED I LOVE UOU IM SO HYPED