this was wingman for a while it was great fun for hvhers but then valve ruined it and i honestly think it did a great job keeping them out of comp as it had no OW a cheater didn't have to waste 5 dollars every time he got ow'ed for a hvh game. but mm was still infested with legitbotters but it helped alot
If VAC could 'observe' cheater they prob couldnt do anything about it. Cheats are VAC Undetected so Vac prob thinks them as legit players so yea, Even if VAC wanted to, it cant.
I've played against people who have that "I won't cheat if the enemy isn't a cheater" way of thinking. When you hit a decent shot versus them, they toggle because they convince themselves you're cheating so it's ethically ok. Pretty pathetic
I know this is an old comment, but this actually shows exactly what the hacker meant. Forsaken cheated, got caught, ended his own career, and also caused the Indian CS scene to go back like 20 steps. OpTic completely pulled out of the scene along with all their publicity and money. All because one pro decided to cheat.
This is why I love Philip, despite not agreeing with this type of community he still remains impartial and explains their side of the story in an informative and entertaining manner.
Him and sparkles are some of my favorite legit youtubers talking about us. They actually start to learn and understand, instead of throwing us under the bus.
Rage hackers are hilarious and just showcase how terrible VAC is. "legit" hacking, on the other hand, is a lot worse and you never know for sure if a good player is actually just good.
Mathias Lui the bad hiders are the ones that get a lot of reports and the “legit” ones in ow were most likely cheating but with vis charms and low fov aimbot
I get called a hacker every other match I play. Im not a smurf, I just have played cs for a long time but just now got into ranked and im ofc breezing through silver because of my prior experience. Im afraid of actually getting banned one day cuz of all the reports lol
this is actually really good vid. I've seen videos like this where they have no clue what they're talking about but you have learnt a lot from this cheater and have provided others with knowledge. Great vid :)
exactly, he didn't go in with an entirely negative mindset about cheating and did concede why hvh isn't inherently bad. he even saw that there is skill in hvh, just a different kind of skill.
I feel like the type of cheater you interviewed is part of that 1% deep-end cheaters, like the routing-experts and any-%'ers among speedrunners. Breaking the game, competing in how broken you can manage to get it. 99% of the ones you encounter are just there for the thrill and trolling.
Not really. He was actually more of the 10 percent, who legits, hvhes, makes his own cheats, and tells people about them. I'd say 40 percent are hvhers, all at different levels. And 45 percent are legit cheaters, trying to get to global. 4 percent are cheating youtubers. And 1 percent are the assholes in casual.
Official hvh servers could be really beneficial, closely monitoring them would allow valve to improve their anti-cheat a lot more and help purge MM of the other 99% of cheaters who are just simply asshoes.
While i completely agree with your point, the number of cheaters that are thought to be playing MM is blown way out of proportion.. I have been flamed countless times by the entire enemy team, and even some of my own teammates for cheating, although i have never used any form of cheats...
@@xf667 They arent in your official steam inventory and you can't sell them so it's basically as worthless as EA microtransactions. Skins in csgo and tf2 actually have value when they are in your inventory. I got a gut knife, regret buying it and traded it away to a streamer.
@@xf667 it's not stealing their money at all :D I use skinchanger everytime I play csgo, for example Dlore for AWP. which means that without skinchanger I would buy dragon lore for hundreds of euros? NO, i would not. I just like the skin, im not going to pay that ammount of money for texture pixels... if I havent had any intention of buying that skin in the first place, there's no stealing involved...
Unless the anti-cheater develops the cheats himself, financially support these cheat developers should be a no-no. Also, how would they determine who is cheating? What if someone is on a lucky streak and gets labeled a cheater?
But theyre probably the most detrimental to the competitiveness of the game. Judging from the amount of fishy skill-boosts/comebacks I saw, there are extremely many "anticheat cheaters". In most games where I paly really well adn the enemies get rekt hard in the beginning, I expect them to toggle to still get the win. And in many cases, this actually happens, together with "LOL CHEATER" flames against me in the first few rounds...
It's just that Valve is fucking trash at cheat detecting. I mean, you could just look up serverlogs and see when the server crashed and who was in the game. Then check for the person who sent the command that crashed the server. But.... fucking Volvo man...
I bet there's a big cultural divide among cheaters: The actual hackers who do it for the challenge, curiosity and passion for the game (like the one you interviewed), and the trash cheaters/script kiddies who buy cheats and just wanna enjoy ruining games for others.
You're probably totally right except the amount of "curious" cheaters are most likely 1 in a million against normal trolling cheaters because if you're actually "curious" then you would proceed to a local game to try them out and not in mm.
Thank you for typing this for me. So aggressive without a single brain cell knocking around in their simple little heads and no attempt to understand a very simple and interesting point this guy made. Just your average randoms in mm..
I haven't seen a single cheater that is "humble" or "has moral standards" at all. It's all the same: Loses game, turns on cheats, wins, calls other team shit, repeat. VAC can barely detect any cheater, it's like holding a fish in front of a toddler, and if the fish doesn't move then it doesn't exist to the toddler.
that is a cheater who cheats to win. The cheaters that are at least "ok" are the ones who cheat to simply get past the anticheat. In HS I would spend hours writing bits of software to bypass the custom restriction program on the pc's in my computer lab. What did I do when I got though the system? nothing. I felt accomplished. And the whole time I was risking suspension and possibly expulsion. It was for the thrill, not the result.
Cheaters are basically thrillseekers, cheating just to bypass the system. Also I esp in roblox CS so I have the moral high ground. But basically, a lot of people do things that are against the rules of something simply to get the small rush from it.
@@marcusborderlands6177 Oh yeah it makes sense but I wish you could consider my input and report back: tl:dr background I myself learned simple programming; Js first then delphi into vb, lastly c and c++ because I loved making my own scripts for some MMORPG bots, easy stuff but I loved the automation and how creative and unique you can be The game I was cheating was a very grind intensive game (Tibia, lmfao) and leveling had no limits, the game was cruel eg; you needed to grind nonstop for 72 hours to get a single level or skillpoint but if you died (and that could happen anytime because peopel could simple kill you for your loot, even if they were higher leveled etc, nothing really would stop them mainly because a lvl 8 character could carry the same gear a lvl 200 character could, killing them would make them drop their backpacks 100% of the times and it had a 25% chance to drop any piece of gear you were using aswell, sometimes you could drop your entire set etc People would cheat on this game and they didnt care about moral nor ethics simply because the game was very grinding based but the fun aspect was PvPing so yeah, very inocent cheating I myself am a hardcore junkie (been to rehab, forced, for 12 ocasions) so I figured the thrill seeking behaviour was something that made sense BUT I never really got the thrill from cheating on competitive games such as counter strike, I tried cheating once and it felt like dirty as fuck and super overpowered but nowhere as close to the thrill you mentioned Can you elaborate? Are you a reward seeker type of person? thanks in advance
@@SteveOnlin Cheating in and of itself annoys honest players. The hacker is just trying to justify his asshole actions by claiming to be one of the good ones to protect his own ego
If admins see you hacking on their server then you !calladmin and the cheater is banned within 3 minutes. For softer cheats, I presume most people don't like playing on some of the servers like FFA, retakes or executes, so other community servers maybe but I haven't seen many. Only a few on 5v5 or retakes and they were all admin banned.
Did you even watch the fucking video? To keep many cheaters away from legit players. They also wants to have ranks. Just telling you in case you didn't watch the fucking video. Fucking donkey.
I don’t really care if someone cheats and can see why it’s appealing (hvh is really fun to watch), however I hate that they do it in competitive. Keep that shit in casual
I've cheated for a week with an alternate account. I wanted to know how it worked and if I could spot other cheaters. Played wingman and was appalled by how many cheaters there were. I would look at them through the wall and would see he or she was following me (no one else alive on either team). So fucking dumb. Also, so boring and a huge waste of money, since I've only used it once and it requires a reboot and BIOS fiddling. Also, also, I managed to lose even cheating because I suck.
I do care if someone cheats even in casual, because you (me) are trying to play for the fun and competition, even if it's "casual", i'm trying to learn and gain experience, and then those "legit" cheaters show up and fuck your entire match. They just destroy what could have been a nice match. Feels bad man :(
Why do all these jobless brats place CSGO's competitive mode on some fake ass pedestal? Casual and Competitive are just words to describe two modes of a *fucking video game.* No matter how pretentious you try to be, Competitive CSGO will never matter any more than Casual CSGO. No amount of mental gymnastics can refute this fact. The only reason cheaters are accepted and bold today is because it's done anonymously across the internet, with no danger of reprisal. Try cheating at a basketball game with people from your neighborhood and watch how fast you stop being a cheater.
what you call "a spinbotter" isn't looking at the ground from his PoV, he is seeing the game in third person or in a normal first person perspective. Some servers allow you to spectate in thirdperson, so yes, you can see the kills
I see a lot of people try to justify cheating by saying "Oh we just cheated because you did", when in fact no one on our team was cheating. It's these kinds of people that really tick me off.
hvh actually sounds like legit fun. If it's not hurting honest players, I could see it as a fun way to compete in programming skills. Reminds me of software engineers who would write viruses just for sake of creating complex soft.
It’s not fun it’s very competitive once u start playing against the big boys, and don’t get me started with the toxicity! It was fun at the beginning doe, when ur first starting off.
Andrei Grozea normally I think a lot of them try to hide that they're cheating so that they can pretend they ranked up legit to their friends. I have a friend who went from nova 4 to LE in about a month who was apparently 'legit'
that would be understandable, I mean at least they work for something, but come on, 95% of cheaters just download the thing and try to impress their friends like Cody said...
Andrei Grozea exactly. What's the fun? I mean at first it feels good to be powerful and wreck people and troll em but after sometime it just gets boring to win and kill em in a second.
most people nowadays dont have their "programming skills", some dont even know the basics of some languages, cheating and making your own cheats or using/making an open source cheat undetected is literally up on youtube. You can make a mm ready cheat without ANY coding knowledge in 5 to 10 minutes
CoD MW2's hackers that made everyone have a super jump was the best, I like that sort of "cheating", as everyone got to enjoy it and have a blast together
No shit man. But when you've played MW2 from since it came out to until last year, the occasional break is perfectly fine. It's a video game, have fun with it.
I remember when i used a cheat code playing Heroes of might and magic III Campaign when i was a kid, i couldn't live with myself and restarted the map. I can't even cheat in SP lol.
I remember playing a wingman match, and I was really on my game, hitting headshots. But the other team didn't think I was legit and toggled on. That was the day I learned wingman was more hvh then legit. I hate wingman
Same here. But despite the comments the video was actually good and kinda of an enlightenment. I have seen hvh on the chat before when I was in queue with some low ranked friends but never even knew wtf they were on about
Yep. I loved the game but the fact that it's now pretty much impossible to know if you are just bad or if the other player is cheating turned me away from it forever. All because some sad fucks don't want to lose at video games. And now making and selling cheats arguably makes as much money as the game itself. Cheaters are fucking cancer.
no, not really? I mean the amount of cheaters are the same as back in the 2013-14 days. I mean, the play base grows and so does the cheaters. But the % stays the same. Of course cheating is not a good thing for us, Valve and the game. But with things such as VACNET and so on things are looking better. I trust in Valve and their methods, and I like that they are secret about a lot of these stuff since the cheaters are, as in the video said, always trying to be one step ahead. Cheating, hacking nor crashing stuff in online video games will never end, so waiting until there are zero cheaters in CSGO and other games, you're just doomed to die. I'd also like to point out that a lot of people are ofter just better than you are, but since there are cheaters, you will think they are cheating aswell. Have a good day.
Same here... I'm sure that there's a good percentage of these hackers playing at the major leagues. But the ones who really harm the game and community are those who reach a hight rank and then start to de-rank intentionally, those f.... just download some sort of spinning tool and manage to stay afk at the spawn without getting kicked or banned because they usually play with someone else that doesn't help to vote-kick them. It is worse than playing with bots because you can't even surrender and you have to play the whole match or rage quit. And when they are actually playing they start to troll the team and give up the game. It reached a point where I got more than 5 matches in a row where there was people deranking intentionally and ruining the thing for the other 3 players... That's why I decided to delete the game...
This is only one person and doesn’t represent most hackers I have met who blatantly hack and to tilt honest players by saying things like “you’re noob” “it’s skills” it totally ruins the game for people who put in hours of practice to improve but all the practice and effort they put in become null when facing a hacker they can’t possibly win.
That is the majority of people who just buy a hack and use it because they want to boost their ego. I personally am fine with the hackers who actually HACK and make the cheats for the thrill, and not the people who pay ten bucks for some cheat off aimjunkie or maverick and use it to get high ranks.
it ain’t gonna help anyone if you just keep saying “dumb hackers stop ruining our fun” over and over, perhaps take some time to think about why they cheat first. Sure, the interviewee certainly doesn’t speak for all hackers, but it’s still valuable insight on how to at least stem some hacking.
Levent Özden if im playing csgo (not really often) i always join hvh community servers. But i think many cheaters pay money for their cheats and then they want to kill legit players and not just play against other cheaters.
that's the opposite of what the "white hat" cheaters are trying, they believe with the addition of VAC they could inform valve in a harsh way, that some of this hack work.
Crowborn I feel like lots of cheaters get a rush out of cheating on legit servers to anger others and to feel skilled, so it probably wouldn’t help very much.
back in the 1.6 days i played in hvh servers. it was all about changing the vectors to your cheat. movement was at 3x speed in battles and speedhack max speed was use able but not allowed to max speed in gun battles. to be honest it was fun. but never hacked in real servers.
"we want hack mode servers so we can do hvh", this guy ever heard of a non VAC secured community dedicated server? lol like just host a dedicated server with VAC secure mode disabled and have fun, just name the server HVH or something so everyone knows thats what its for
I would love to watch some HvH matches if Valve ever added support for those kinds of things on official servers. I'm just imagining all the flying terrorists with p90s fighting flying counter terrorists with p90s. It would be glorious!
WHAT THE FK, 2 hours after watching this, I get in a game of CS and this dude in my team is using scout and blatantly headshotting people. Everyone starting doubting him because he was aimbotting so blatantly, so I voted to kick him and then it said attempting to reconnect. Identified it as server crashing bug. Fking flashbacks to the video. Never thought it would happen to me. I have played this game for over 3000 hours in total and have not encountered a situation like this so far. There are hackers in prime matchmaking as well... Feelsbadman.
I remember playing a game where my teammate was hitting nutty shots all the time. I suspected he was cheating. Then one guy from the other team started doing this. Turns out both were hacking, although they werent spinbotting
@@fatboi4511 yeah, but for me somehow faceit doesn't feel the same, somehow I don't get the feel, that I get in regular competitive and that doesn't please me.
I kind of understand the idea of wanting to figure out how to break the system. Same sort of satisfaction you get from the end of the last chamber in Portal
I remember I had a wingman game with a guy using anti aim, eventually he stopped using it. We hadn’t even known. He was just like “I’m sorry. I’m cheating I feel bad, but lemme show you what it is” and he showed us how it worked. It was very interesting. We didn’t report him, we instead gave him a commend, for at least teaching us something about the cheating community, and that not all of them are self centered jerks
actually it would be better if they had the vacnet running on the hvh server just to learn from how the cheats are working. It wont ban players but learn the system and then put it on the vac enabled servers.
lol that's a terrible idea. if that was the case then people will stop play on official hvh server, which will make the idea of HvH servers by Valve, so they can learn more and more about hacking, useless to begin with.
That's what real-life criminals and negative people usually do. In psychology, the survival instincts of the ego has the ability to make a person justify and beautify anything and everything in life, including their own selfishness. That is because most criminals are actually unconsciously against their own selfishness, but at the conscious level they choose and want to be selfish, so there had to be some compensating perception change, to allow them to express their selfishness freely without any guilt or responsibility.
No doesn't necessarily have to be a criminal. The exact same psychology of justification applies to anyone who wants to engage in selfishness without feeling responsible for it. So there's no difference between a cheater or a real life criminal, in terms of the basic psychology behind it.
He specifically said that it wasnt HIS view of hacking, but from the hacker's perspective. I think we all know that kliks hates hacking enough to not change sides just because a hacker said it wasnt that bad.
I knew a guy who thought that everyone would cheat if they knew how to. That person was even more oblivious of what he was doing than the guy in your video. Cheating is NOT good for the game, and never will..
5:48 he doesn’t like cheating against honest players “aww” ,and turns on rage cheats for amateur closet cheaters who find enjoyment to cheat against honest players. “Awwww”
already did a long time ago, it's just not worth it when you never know if the person killing you is a cheater, a dickhole smurf, or just an honest player. rage inducing.,
Cheating always have been an issue on online multiplayer games, let's get real...there really isn't a mp game without cheaters, but sometimes our lack of skill made us blame others.
It is, i actually play it on a daily basis, requires alot of skill, a good cheat and some map knowledge, i recommend you try it out it's pretty fun, that being said you'll actually need proper cheats made specifically for HVH. For starters i'd recommend aimware or zeus, if you don't want to pay then you can find cracked or free cheats online although they won't do as good.
Maybe this is a dumb idea, but if a rage cheat can make a fake player model that other aimlocks lock on to, why doesnt valve just litter the maps with invisible "player models" so that when someone tries to use an aimlock it just locks onto some random space on the map instead of an actual player? This is the day i beat the aim lock
Cheaters who deny cheating are the worst but the cheaters who blatantly do it and just for fun are not as bad as the 1st ones who say they’re good but their obvious cheaters those people piss me off
Then they'll come back and not go in the hvh mode. If they want to play against other hackers, then a hvh mode or mm would benefit legit players honestly.
This can be a problem, if cheaters get their dedicated space to play cs, then more and more players will be motivated to cheat which will result in a bad community.
Dani hackers are typically willing to buy more than one account so thats not really an excuse for cheating innocent people out of a product they payed full price for
I can understand the interest in developing cheats and searchig for new explotits. But there is no reason to test things in multiplayer. Test against bots in insecure mode. To say "It's my hobby" is a bad excuse to cheat online against normal players.
How is there no reason to test against other players? The cheat has to be tested against VAC, overwatch, other players and other hackers, otherwise its not really a test of anything.
If you want to test against VAC then start a bot match outside the insecure mode. A local server is VAC protected aswell. There is no need to harm honest palyers. The bots represent other players.
I actually do have a MUCH better understanding of cheaters after watching this. I never knew that they were so detached from reality that they actually tried to justify what they were doing as being beneficial to others. Fascinating...
Sociopaths tend to have a hard time actually being friendly, specifically because they can't recognize people as being as valuable as them and thus they will almost always reveal specific types of behavior. Most notably narcissism and self-importance. They also don't generally justify their behavior to other people because they find no value in such, they don't value other people so why would they care if they harm other people. There are also way too many hackers in CSGO for most if any of them to statistically be sociopaths hacking the game. The whole hvh thing also wouldn't be brought up if this was the subject of sociopaths. All in all this is a flawed comparison. It's also a rather degrading one, even most criminals aren't actually sociopaths, and often times they're just straight up murderers if they are gonna commit a crime. And at the end of the day I don't believe most hackers in any game are doing it out of malicious intent, most of them segregate themselves from the public community at large, and even the malicious community likely are only made up of a super minority of sociopaths at best.
former cheater here, hacking in csgo is fucking *boring*. i got into it cause my friend had a cheat called Killit, and it was fun for a time going on Blacksite and shit. then Killit stopped working, so i got OTC from my mate. that was a bit fun too, but not really as fun as i previously had. then my other friend made his own wallhack which was completely undetectable (i used it on my main to win clan tryouts, they were shit anyway lol) after a while though, my interest waded and i stopped. i still have the folder of like a billion unused DLL's that i injected once and never used again. unless you play something like HVH with someone or against someone you know personally, cheating is fucking boring in regular MM, Wingman, Casual and HVH against randoms. i got banned on my main, didnt care all that much since i didnt play CSGO much anyway. a big problem with cheating is that you can make an account with the same email over and over and over and over and over again, nonstop, giving you pretty much infinite retries. it sucks everyone, dont cheat in csgo cause its boring (unless you're mentally deranged lol)
How HvH servers can help Valve 1. Cheaters do not have to disturb legit play, thus disrupting people's ranks and scores. 2. Valve can analyze the HvH matches and improve VAC with the information gained. 3. It can deter cheaters from cheating on a legit server, risking bans. 4. It gives a new reason to cheat, and to get better at cheating, rather than at the game itself.
A match with or against a cheater is not an actual match. You don’t actually play, you only wait for it to end being unable to do anything. That “match” takes time, your time! Time that you could spent chilling or even working. How valuable is your time? How should be called someone stealing something of value to you? Those “legit” coward ones are the worst.
A random thought: Blizzard should name Overwatch's anti-cheat system "Counter Strike".
It would sure be a fitting name
@UCiKGUHYrURaVY0ybYC0rRUg You get what he means dude
Hello there
savage man...
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1) Make HvH, no bans for players playing here.
2) Let VAC observe these cheats.
3) Use VAC to ban all cheaters on non-HvH servers.
You my friend need to sell and pitch this Idea to Valve.
What a fuckin genius
this was wingman for a while it was great fun for hvhers but then valve ruined it and i honestly think it did a great job keeping them out of comp as it had no OW a cheater didn't have to waste 5 dollars every time he got ow'ed for a hvh game. but mm was still infested with legitbotters but it helped alot
If VAC could 'observe' cheater they prob couldnt do anything about it. Cheats are VAC Undetected so Vac prob thinks them as legit players so yea, Even if VAC wanted to, it cant.
damn that's a great idea.too bad valve won't use it lmao.
People call me cheater in Wingman, I say hvh for jokes, and they actually start spinbotting... feelsbadman
Sad reacs only
Zatley lol
Ez ban for them
Sed lyf
you must be funny irl
Valve, why you dont ban blatant cheater called "The suspect". He is obviously hacking.
at first I thought this was serious then I read it again phew nearly called you an idiot now im smart cause im in on the joke!
if this comment was wished true it would be kinda funny if the guy who made the comment got reported for cheating and banned
Guy with Steam name “The Suspect”: yo wtf why am i banned
indeed, idk why, he appears in every overwatch case, must have a lot of accounts.
Yeah can’t they just ban him always cheating he’s problobly the number one cheater
never heard of HVH, insane..
NadeKing watch the videos on my channel for a little insight on what it looks like
Its pretty big tbh
Go on community and look for "pastepolizei" 20 server plus
Go to the community servers and search for hvh and join one to see it. Even if you don't cheat it's interesting to watch
Huehue it's actually very fun TBH. even though cheating in real comp matches is wrong but, when you do it on private servers it's fun
Check out my youtube to see some hvh... its cancer tbh
I've played against people who have that "I won't cheat if the enemy isn't a cheater" way of thinking. When you hit a decent shot versus them, they toggle because they convince themselves you're cheating so it's ethically ok. Pretty pathetic
yeah
Exactly that’s why this is BS
This is matchmaking right here
yeah have played against several people like this. I smurf sometimes and they actually think i am hacking and just spinbot. so pathetic
Levi Emery same
“He doesn’t like to kill real players”
“Professionals have standards”
Real players being the ones that he wins against.
Ngl hvh is the good shit, rage hacking against legits is the same as beating a child
@@schlong8276 *being a child
people trying to hvh get as frustrated when they find legits as legits do when they get matched with cheaters
yeah its boring to kill legits
Hacker: Pros won't cheat, theres too much on the line
Forsaken: Allow me to introduce myself
That was a relatively low tier team and he was super blatant. I Think cheating in csgo is less common than in traditional sports.
I know this is an old comment, but this actually shows exactly what the hacker meant. Forsaken cheated, got caught, ended his own career, and also caused the Indian CS scene to go back like 20 steps. OpTic completely pulled out of the scene along with all their publicity and money. All because one pro decided to cheat.
Yeah and even in real life sports there is illegal steroid use and corked baseball bats.
KQLY: Am i a joke to you?
Shouldve said hild my beer..... im dissapointed
valve finally did it! The official hvh gamemode!
With f2p csgo non prime matchmaking is almost always hvh game!
Thanks, valve!
Not so funny when you're the one playing it
poor heavy, i feel u man
and when they reach level 21 they are cheating on prime servers.... gj VALVE
should've bought the game lmao
@@lordharmy6455 yeah but i fucking hate valve false banning asses
This is why I love Philip, despite not agreeing with this type of community he still remains impartial and explains their side of the story in an informative and entertaining manner.
He respects them.
Him and sparkles are some of my favorite legit youtubers talking about us. They actually start to learn and understand, instead of throwing us under the bus.
@@caughtintheweb0 so you are a cheater ?
@@mrweezzx I in fact am. I'm going to be hvhing a lot more, once my new pc is built.
@@caughtintheweb0 im not mad at you but how do you have fun while cheating?
Awwww anti aim, i feel a lot better about missing those shots.
i used to always aim for the belly lol
quit cs go in 2016 but i enjoy watching phil
Be glad that fake angles don't exist anymore child. Hvh was impossible, and ragers in wingman were undefeatable.
@@caughtintheweb0 yeah but it was more fun for hvh desync sucks balls lol
Facts tho
@@authentic0001 fr tho, hvh desync is aids, kids nowadays just hold 1w and flex on awp kills lmaoo
I've cheated before...
on minecraft, using X-Ray to find diamonds.
Ahri you absolute mad lad
Lol you were indeed a noob Minecraft player
jokes on you, at the time you just needed to push a Glowstone block onto your head to see through walls in vanilla without suffocating
Dude that’s really not cool. People like you are why my mom doesn’t let me play Minecraft
You're going to hell
Rage hackers are hilarious and just showcase how terrible VAC is.
"legit" hacking, on the other hand, is a lot worse and you never know for sure if a good player is actually just good.
onscreen unless he's bad at hiding and damn I've seen lots of bad hiders in overwatch
Mathias Lui the bad hiders are the ones that get a lot of reports and the “legit” ones in ow were most likely cheating but with vis charms and low fov aimbot
vandu maybe
I get called a hacker every other match I play. Im not a smurf, I just have played cs for a long time but just now got into ranked and im ofc breezing through silver because of my prior experience. Im afraid of actually getting banned one day cuz of all the reports lol
TheBoss Same
Fun Fact: The water sound from AFK players dates as far back as Half-Life, when you exit out of noclip.
Поймавший Маслину neat
you can hear it a lot in GMOD
u still play gmod?
Valentin Popescu gmod can be fun
it's basically dead though
this is actually really good vid. I've seen videos like this where they have no clue what they're talking about but you have learnt a lot from this cheater and have provided others with knowledge. Great vid :)
exactly, he didn't go in with an entirely negative mindset about cheating and did concede why hvh isn't inherently bad. he even saw that there is skill in hvh, just a different kind of skill.
Exactly what a cheater would say , HUMMMMMM
nice bait
I haven't played on valve servers in months. All i do when I play is hvh, and there isn't anything wrong with that
yeah ahaah
I feel like the type of cheater you interviewed is part of that 1% deep-end cheaters, like the routing-experts and any-%'ers among speedrunners. Breaking the game, competing in how broken you can manage to get it.
99% of the ones you encounter are just there for the thrill and trolling.
There's a big community therem
Not really. He was actually more of the 10 percent, who legits, hvhes, makes his own cheats, and tells people about them. I'd say 40 percent are hvhers, all at different levels. And 45 percent are legit cheaters, trying to get to global. 4 percent are cheating youtubers. And 1 percent are the assholes in casual.
@@caughtintheweb0 Do you play cs? 1%? yeah, you're crazy.
@@ThePedro8161 I do in fact. How do you think I know this? I'm part of the 40 percent.
@@caughtintheweb0 well, your numbers are completely backasswards
Plot twist:
3kliksohilip is the cheater and he's the one that wants a hvh gamemode...
adshahahaahah
ohillip
Kek Gorilla well that could be because this video was uploaded a long time ago
"asking for a anonymous friend"
Chao Kevin Hahaha them bluelight days sonnnnn! “Swim wants to know”. Yeah cause that’ll save em! 😂✌️
Safe
Official hvh servers could be really beneficial, closely monitoring them would allow valve to improve their anti-cheat a lot more and help purge MM of the other 99% of cheaters who are just simply asshoes.
Absolutely. Agree.
valve:
never gets to this response
next day:
valve: lets update csgo from scaleform to some new ui! *something 3kliksphilip noticed*
While i completely agree with your point, the number of cheaters that are thought to be playing MM is blown way out of proportion.. I have been flamed countless times by the entire enemy team, and even some of my own teammates for cheating, although i have never used any form of cheats...
And now the game is free2play and everywhere will be cheaters
you obiously have no idea about cheats. You cant see or detect what cheat someone is using. You can’t either remove aa’s because it’s movement based.
types in match
"hvh?
Team responds with a "yes"
Reports
VAC Swat kicks down cheaters door
"THIS IS A BUST!"
GAME PRO24X LMAO
i got asked "hvh?" once today for the first time. i was wondering whether they watched Philip's video or it's actually serious
vac 2019
taps forehead
'VALVE, OPEN UP!'
Valve is too strict on skins because they don't want ANYTHING messing with their precious cash cow that is weapon skins.
They aren't wrong, I mean technically if you use skin changer it is stealing their money
@@xf667 They arent in your official steam inventory and you can't sell them so it's basically as worthless as EA microtransactions. Skins in csgo and tf2 actually have value when they are in your inventory. I got a gut knife, regret buying it and traded it away to a streamer.
It is almost impossible to make a server sided skin changer
@Stompyyy/yAkame link me his channel thx
@@xf667 it's not stealing their money at all :D I use skinchanger everytime I play csgo, for example Dlore for AWP. which means that without skinchanger I would buy dragon lore for hundreds of euros? NO, i would not. I just like the skin, im not going to pay that ammount of money for texture pixels... if I havent had any intention of buying that skin in the first place, there's no stealing involved...
Anti-cheaters cheaters are probably the most interesting bunch of hackers.
Unless the anti-cheater develops the cheats himself, financially support these cheat developers should be a no-no. Also, how would they determine who is cheating? What if someone is on a lucky streak and gets labeled a cheater?
It's easy to spot a cheater when you have skeleton esp, or chams because you can see the player looking at you trough the wall.
may it is true xD
fiske But if you keep cheats on to spot a cheater, you would be cheating throughout the entire match.
But theyre probably the most detrimental to the competitiveness of the game. Judging from the amount of fishy skill-boosts/comebacks I saw, there are extremely many "anticheat cheaters". In most games where I paly really well adn the enemies get rekt hard in the beginning, I expect them to toggle to still get the win. And in many cases, this actually happens, together with "LOL CHEATER" flames against me in the first few rounds...
Very intresting video thank you for making it!
ImAnderZEL sup
Hello boys and girls, it is AnderZel of course, and today...!
sheeter :)
suprised your mods didnt come in here and ban everyone for voicing an opinion
Hey anders! Jus got finished watching ur stream :)
It's very interesting that they crash the entire game so they don't get caught. The lengths cheaters will go to cheat.
AwesomeNarwhal seems like a pretty good idea to me
yeh, the lengths
Lengths isn't the correct term.
It's called being smart and using a feature.
Not that hard
iquityoutube the person who made the cheats might say otherwise. For example, try making a cheat that can crash a server dumbass
It's just that Valve is fucking trash at cheat detecting. I mean, you could just look up serverlogs and see when the server crashed and who was in the game. Then check for the person who sent the command that crashed the server. But.... fucking Volvo man...
HvH is like the CSGO equivalent of an underground fight club
I bet there's a big cultural divide among cheaters: The actual hackers who do it for the challenge, curiosity and passion for the game (like the one you interviewed), and the trash cheaters/script kiddies who buy cheats and just wanna enjoy ruining games for others.
You don't make sense
There is no such thing as what you're mentioning, you're clueless. Stop embarassing yourself with such comments.
This is very true and I'm saddened idiots like the two first commenters exist.
You're probably totally right except the amount of "curious" cheaters are most likely 1 in a million against normal trolling cheaters because if you're actually "curious" then you would proceed to a local game to try them out and not in mm.
Thank you for typing this for me. So aggressive without a single brain cell knocking around in their simple little heads and no attempt to understand a very simple and interesting point this guy made. Just your average randoms in mm..
I haven't seen a single cheater that is "humble" or "has moral standards" at all. It's all the same: Loses game, turns on cheats, wins, calls other team shit, repeat. VAC can barely detect any cheater, it's like holding a fish in front of a toddler, and if the fish doesn't move then it doesn't exist to the toddler.
that is a cheater who cheats to win. The cheaters that are at least "ok" are the ones who cheat to simply get past the anticheat. In HS I would spend hours writing bits of software to bypass the custom restriction program on the pc's in my computer lab. What did I do when I got though the system? nothing. I felt accomplished. And the whole time I was risking suspension and possibly expulsion. It was for the thrill, not the result.
@@marcusborderlands6177 what do you mean, im truly lost here
Cheaters are basically thrillseekers, cheating just to bypass the system. Also I esp in roblox CS so I have the moral high ground. But basically, a lot of people do things that are against the rules of something simply to get the small rush from it.
And so some of them are not too bad, they cheat and then stop, but whatever.
@@marcusborderlands6177 Oh yeah it makes sense but I wish you could consider my input and report back:
tl:dr background
I myself learned simple programming; Js first then delphi into vb, lastly c and c++ because I loved making my own scripts for some MMORPG bots, easy stuff but I loved the automation and how creative and unique you can be
The game I was cheating was a very grind intensive game (Tibia, lmfao) and leveling had no limits, the game was cruel eg; you needed to grind nonstop for 72 hours to get a single level or skillpoint but if you died (and that could happen anytime because peopel could simple kill you for your loot, even if they were higher leveled etc, nothing really would stop them mainly because a lvl 8 character could carry the same gear a lvl 200 character could, killing them would make them drop their backpacks 100% of the times and it had a 25% chance to drop any piece of gear you were using aswell, sometimes you could drop your entire set etc
People would cheat on this game and they didnt care about moral nor ethics simply because the game was very grinding based but the fun aspect was PvPing so yeah, very inocent cheating
I myself am a hardcore junkie (been to rehab, forced, for 12 ocasions) so I figured the thrill seeking behaviour was something that made sense BUT I never really got the thrill from cheating on competitive games such as counter strike, I tried cheating once and it felt like dirty as fuck and super overpowered but nowhere as close to the thrill you mentioned
Can you elaborate? Are you a reward seeker type of person?
thanks in advance
thanks to flusha for helping 3k making this vid :D
"cheating helps the game" yeah, that's why I left CS:GO
The hacker interviewed in the video is a dumbass thinking that saying that line would help him sound smart
i never meet a hacker before :D
i feel blessed and never quit the game
@@TrungNguyen-is6lq He never stated that the cheater in the video does it to annoy others or win games, he finds it as a hobby
@@SteveOnlin Cheating in and of itself annoys honest players. The hacker is just trying to justify his asshole actions by claiming to be one of the good ones to protect his own ego
@@Lex-jj7hb he said that he avoids cheating against honest players
"Make a game mode for hackers"
Yeah ok, you mean community servers?
Why would Valve make a game mode for something that voids their tos?
Arkady gosh never even thought of that. Well thought good man!
To keep them out of our legit matches :)
If admins see you hacking on their server then you !calladmin and the cheater is banned within 3 minutes. For softer cheats, I presume most people don't like playing on some of the servers like FFA, retakes or executes, so other community servers maybe but I haven't seen many. Only a few on 5v5 or retakes and they were all admin banned.
idk they could play on legitimately hvh dedicated servers
Did you even watch the fucking video? To keep many cheaters away from legit players. They also wants to have ranks. Just telling you in case you didn't watch the fucking video. Fucking donkey.
I don’t really care if someone cheats and can see why it’s appealing (hvh is really fun to watch), however I hate that they do it in competitive. Keep that shit in casual
I've cheated for a week with an alternate account. I wanted to know how it worked and if I could spot other cheaters. Played wingman and was appalled by how many cheaters there were. I would look at them through the wall and would see he or she was following me (no one else alive on either team). So fucking dumb.
Also, so boring and a huge waste of money, since I've only used it once and it requires a reboot and BIOS fiddling.
Also, also, I managed to lose even cheating because I suck.
Dux Nihilo Do you do it for fun or to just fuck around with people trying to play?
I do care if someone cheats even in casual, because you (me) are trying to play for the fun and competition, even if it's "casual", i'm trying to learn and gain experience, and then those "legit" cheaters show up and fuck your entire match. They just destroy what could have been a nice match. Feels bad man :(
Dux Nihilo damn that must have been a really shit cheat if it requires BIOS fiddling or even a reboot lol
Why do all these jobless brats place CSGO's competitive mode on some fake ass pedestal? Casual and Competitive are just words to describe two modes of a *fucking video game.* No matter how pretentious you try to be, Competitive CSGO will never matter any more than Casual CSGO. No amount of mental gymnastics can refute this fact. The only reason cheaters are accepted and bold today is because it's done anonymously across the internet, with no danger of reprisal. Try cheating at a basketball game with people from your neighborhood and watch how fast you stop being a cheater.
Damn, HvH sounds like would it be a blast to watch, like a team of overpowered anime characters against eachother
Seabass Even better to play
It isn't, it's just a bunch of people staring at the ground and spinning really fast and killing others, you can't even see the kills.
what you call "a spinbotter" isn't looking at the ground from his PoV, he is seeing the game in third person or in a normal first person perspective. Some servers allow you to spectate in thirdperson, so yes, you can see the kills
Seabass I can tell you it's a lot of fun if you have a good cheat.
there are some tournaments
I can’t believe valve added HvH matchmaking!
*Non-Prime Matchmaking!*
Too true...
f2p smurfing with a friend who's new can confirm that 80% of non prim games have one or two dudes with walls
now they did
I see a lot of people try to justify cheating by saying "Oh we just cheated because you did", when in fact no one on our team was cheating. It's these kinds of people that really tick me off.
hvh actually sounds like legit fun. If it's not hurting honest players, I could see it as a fun way to compete in programming skills. Reminds me of software engineers who would write viruses just for sake of creating complex soft.
Like the social media worm way back on Myspace?
hvh is fun! i suck, but it's fun nonetheless
At that point it's a modded server, with the mods being clientside. No problem there.
It’s not fun it’s very competitive once u start playing against the big boys, and don’t get me started with the toxicity! It was fun at the beginning doe, when ur first starting off.
Proteus he means programming better resolvers and features that make your hack better
It would actually be great cheaters would just play hvh, but most of them use them to climb, I don't get it what's so fun to some people about that...
Andrei Grozea normally I think a lot of them try to hide that they're cheating so that they can pretend they ranked up legit to their friends. I have a friend who went from nova 4 to LE in about a month who was apparently 'legit'
I think for most that make their own cheats its the thrill of being able to get through the anticheat with their programming skills
that would be understandable, I mean at least they work for something, but come on, 95% of cheaters just download the thing and try to impress their friends like Cody said...
Andrei Grozea exactly. What's the fun? I mean at first it feels good to be powerful and wreck people and troll em but after sometime it just gets boring to win and kill em in a second.
most people nowadays dont have their "programming skills", some dont even know the basics of some languages, cheating and making your own cheats or using/making an open source cheat undetected is literally up on youtube. You can make a mm ready cheat without ANY coding knowledge in 5 to 10 minutes
It’s a sad life when your biggest thrills come from avoiding bans in a free to play game
@@gloopington By "we" you mean hackers?
@@gloopington He referred to the hackers. What do "we" have anything to do with his point?
team fortress 2
Braiden lmao “we” alright kid
@@burgerking5256 what?
The worst kind are the ones who turn on hacks when they start to lose and justify it by accusing you of cheating...
We all know, you already made 330 accounts to downvote your own video Philip
_Stop disliking your own videos Philip_
this joke has not been funny for years
It's not even him disliking.
CoD MW2's hackers that made everyone have a super jump was the best, I like that sort of "cheating", as everyone got to enjoy it and have a blast together
Cola BotelsOVA except for those people who just wanted to play the game normally and put their skills up against others.
No shit man. But when you've played MW2 from since it came out to until last year, the occasional break is perfectly fine. It's a video game, have fun with it.
Sniper lobbies in bo2. Every kill is a level up. Every death a level down. Only way to leave is to turn of your console/pc
"how many pros cheat"
Coaches are sweating in the back
There is no excuse for cheating in public lobbies
Pierre Preuthun Cant disagree with facts
Thank you.
Like casuals? huehue
Besides how it's funny.
@@scout641 Only funny to dumbshits
0:52 FLICK SHOT MASTER
Davis1337 one gun for each opponent, ez :v
OH MY GOD!
Just gaming chair
Davis1337 he has the new headphones
INHUMAN REACTIONS
The only cheats that are OK are singleplayer cheats.
I remember when i used a cheat code playing Heroes of might and magic III Campaign when i was a kid, i couldn't live with myself and restarted the map. I can't even cheat in SP lol.
Spheracul - I think this is pretty normal
well for one, wrong, also, did you not listen to what the guy fucking said lmao
If it steals money from the company, then still no.
Ryan Smock neither steel money from the company...
I remember playing a wingman match, and I was really on my game, hitting headshots. But the other team didn't think I was legit and toggled on. That was the day I learned wingman was more hvh then legit. I hate wingman
LET'S MAKE A STEROID OLYMPIC GAMES FOR THE CHEATERS!!!!!
For Russia to only compete vs itself? :D
Actually an Olympic game where you have to take steroids to join sounds epic as fuck.
If it weren't so harmful in the longterm I would tune in. It'd be interesting to see where the limits are.
Thats just any official pro sports in general. 95% of athletes use illegal substancrs to gainan edge, only a small portion of them get caught
have you played wingman?
I don't like cheating in CSGO and I don't sympathize with cheaters, but these comments are legit cancer.
Tell me about it. Everyone's so goddamn defensive.
Same here. But despite the comments the video was actually good and kinda of an enlightenment. I have seen hvh on the chat before when I was in queue with some low ranked friends but never even knew wtf they were on about
nimrodery i was into gold 3 or 4, then i gave up playing cs go because of brazillian cheaters
nimrodery People took it too far, it's just a videogame... I don't really get it
@@XanderNiles I mean it's just a game tbh.
This video proves that I was right when I decided to stop playing.
Yep. I loved the game but the fact that it's now pretty much impossible to know if you are just bad or if the other player is cheating turned me away from it forever. All because some sad fucks don't want to lose at video games. And now making and selling cheats arguably makes as much money as the game itself. Cheaters are fucking cancer.
no, not really? I mean the amount of cheaters are the same as back in the 2013-14 days. I mean, the play base grows and so does the cheaters. But the % stays the same. Of course cheating is not a good thing for us, Valve and the game. But with things such as VACNET and so on things are looking better. I trust in Valve and their methods, and I like that they are secret about a lot of these stuff since the cheaters are, as in the video said, always trying to be one step ahead. Cheating, hacking nor crashing stuff in online video games will never end, so waiting until there are zero cheaters in CSGO and other games, you're just doomed to die. I'd also like to point out that a lot of people are ofter just better than you are, but since there are cheaters, you will think they are cheating aswell. Have a good day.
dude if only 7% of the playerbase cheats it like every 2nd to 3rd game
Still playing the game but never buy any skin again
Same here... I'm sure that there's a good percentage of these hackers playing at the major leagues.
But the ones who really harm the game and community are those who reach a hight rank and then start to de-rank intentionally, those f.... just download some sort of spinning tool and manage to stay afk at the spawn without getting kicked or banned because they usually play with someone else that doesn't help to vote-kick them. It is worse than playing with bots because you can't even surrender and you have to play the whole match or rage quit.
And when they are actually playing they start to troll the team and give up the game.
It reached a point where I got more than 5 matches in a row where there was people deranking intentionally and ruining the thing for the other 3 players... That's why I decided to delete the game...
Don't let this distract you from the fact that you're still a loser if you cheat in multiplayer fps games.
SandPaperToYourDickTip exactly this guy tried to make out he was the good guy
Unless he wins of course...
G Wizzy I don’t wanna be that guy but by definition wouldn’t the guy with the hacks be the nerd
If you cheat against other cheats your bad guy. if you cheat against legit players you're a loser. it's pretty easy to under it bruh.
@KM513 she's the reason this gonna happen to you
This is only one person and doesn’t represent most hackers I have met who blatantly hack and to tilt honest players by saying things like “you’re noob” “it’s skills” it totally ruins the game for people who put in hours of practice to improve but all the practice and effort they put in become null when facing a hacker they can’t possibly win.
nah it does. they just get toxic when you or the team bashes them.
That is the majority of people who just buy a hack and use it because they want to boost their ego. I personally am fine with the hackers who actually HACK and make the cheats for the thrill, and not the people who pay ten bucks for some cheat off aimjunkie or maverick and use it to get high ranks.
Even if you don't have hours into the game, some dipshit cheating still ruins it.
Play ESEA. Stop playing MM.
it ain’t gonna help anyone if you just keep saying “dumb hackers stop ruining our fun” over and over, perhaps take some time to think about why they cheat first. Sure, the interviewee certainly doesn’t speak for all hackers, but it’s still valuable insight on how to at least stem some hacking.
There are hvh servers as well. Just go to Community server. choose vac unsecured servers and type "hvh"
Levent Özden I don't cheat and i once joined one of those, it was insane xd
Levent Özden if im playing csgo (not really often) i always join hvh community servers. But i think many cheaters pay money for their cheats and then they want to kill legit players and not just play against other cheaters.
that's the opposite of what the "white hat" cheaters are trying, they believe with the addition of VAC they could inform valve in a harsh way, that some of this hack work.
HvH seems really interesting. I'd support these servers as sanctuaries to keep cheaters away from normal games.
or a place tha banned cheaters can go so they can still enjoy the game without makeing trouble
Wouldn't decrease cheaters on normal servers at all.
Crowborn I feel like lots of cheaters get a rush out of cheating on legit servers to anger others and to feel skilled, so it probably wouldn’t help very much.
Personally it sounds more fun to spectate than normal servers (to me, anyway)
back in the 1.6 days i played in hvh servers. it was all about changing the vectors to your cheat. movement was at 3x speed in battles and speedhack max speed was use able but not allowed to max speed in gun battles. to be honest it was fun. but never hacked in real servers.
"we want hack mode servers so we can do hvh", this guy ever heard of a non VAC secured community dedicated server? lol like just host a dedicated server with VAC secure mode disabled and have fun, just name the server HVH or something so everyone knows thats what its for
@@arseniybashirov3142 ranked cheating is the only TRUE not anymore cheatable ranking. THE true RANKING. think of it.
He's lying. He just enjoys being an asshole that's it lol
hvh
*_TOP 10 ANIME SUPERPOWER BATTLES_*
I would love to watch some HvH matches if Valve ever added support for those kinds of things on official servers. I'm just imagining all the flying terrorists with p90s fighting flying counter terrorists with p90s. It would be glorious!
had a stroke reading this
@Stompy hvh ns is just a bunch of people flying with AK 1 tapping each other.
WHAT THE FK, 2 hours after watching this, I get in a game of CS and this dude in my team is using scout and blatantly headshotting people. Everyone starting doubting him because he was aimbotting so blatantly, so I voted to kick him and then it said attempting to reconnect. Identified it as server crashing bug. Fking flashbacks to the video. Never thought it would happen to me. I have played this game for over 3000 hours in total and have not encountered a situation like this so far. There are hackers in prime matchmaking as well... Feelsbadman.
Vineet Bulbule Its been two weeks since they actually found the cause of the bug and fixed it.
That comment matches with your profile pic Vineet Bulbule.
I remember playing a game where my teammate was hitting nutty shots all the time. I suspected he was cheating. Then one guy from the other team started doing this. Turns out both were hacking, although they werent spinbotting
Play on FaceIt. Somehow their Anti Cheat system is a whole lot better thab VAC.
@@fatboi4511 yeah, but for me somehow faceit doesn't feel the same, somehow I don't get the feel, that I get in regular competitive and that doesn't please me.
It's so weird that alot of people don't know about HvH ... Videos of people playing HvH were once all over youtube.
Still are.
Still plenty of custom HvH lobbies as well. Although the lack of AC removes some of the fun.
or maybe i'm just not cheating and therefore im not interested in watching other people cheating?
I've been playing 3 years the game without actually knowing this term XD
YES
I kind of understand the idea of wanting to figure out how to break the system. Same sort of satisfaction you get from the end of the last chamber in Portal
I didn’t expect to see you here!
I remember I had a wingman game with a guy using anti aim, eventually he stopped using it. We hadn’t even known. He was just like “I’m sorry. I’m cheating I feel bad, but lemme show you what it is” and he showed us how it worked. It was very interesting. We didn’t report him, we instead gave him a commend, for at least teaching us something about the cheating community, and that not all of them are self centered jerks
I think they should create the hvh mode, then make their anti cheat better, but only on normal servers (on hvh servers, there would be no anti cheat)
actually it would be better if they had the vacnet running on the hvh server just to learn from how the cheats are working. It wont ban players but learn the system and then put it on the vac enabled servers.
this tbh. they basically will have a pool of server full of people willing by themself to teach VACNET a thing or two.
Craigslist Assassin there are hvh servers in the community list
lol that's a terrible idea. if that was the case then people will stop play on official hvh server, which will make the idea of HvH servers by Valve, so they can learn more and more about hacking, useless to begin with.
ooooh, this is actually a good idea, just the same as Dark Souls 2 way of handling cheater. they should do this.
I'm pretty sure everyone died in 2012 and we're all in hell. I'm convinced now.
Redooct 3 nah
Redooct 3 lol
Its like bacterial evolution. Cheats and Anti-cheats competes in defeating eachother. Both make eachother better than their former selves
It’s an arms race, it’s cool. But there’s also a working vac bypass on github rn lol.
Cool but he glorified hacking so much and made it seem noble.
That's what real-life criminals and negative people usually do. In psychology, the survival instincts of the ego has the ability to make a person justify and beautify anything and everything in life, including their own selfishness.
That is because most criminals are actually unconsciously against their own selfishness, but at the conscious level they choose and want to be selfish, so there had to be some compensating perception change, to allow them to express their selfishness freely without any guilt or responsibility.
rushbcykablyat you’re comparing a real life criminal to a hacker, there’s a pretty big difference
No doesn't necessarily have to be a criminal. The exact same psychology of justification applies to anyone who wants to engage in selfishness without feeling responsible for it.
So there's no difference between a cheater or a real life criminal, in terms of the basic psychology behind it.
He specifically said that it wasnt HIS view of hacking, but from the hacker's perspective. I think we all know that kliks hates hacking enough to not change sides just because a hacker said it wasnt that bad.
"he hates hacking enough to not change sides" He is doing their propaganda work though?
I knew a guy who thought that everyone would cheat if they knew how to. That person was even more oblivious of what he was doing than the guy in your video. Cheating is NOT good for the game, and never will..
Everyone knows or can learn how to cheat because of big youtubers that are publishing cheats to the public.
that is a very closed minded statement you made
@@CherryZ welcome to the csgo community
that "developer" is most likely a paster lmao
YO SPADE
>pastes skeet
Right. Cuz that's possible.
@@kyrize4269 You can find code on unknowncheats to get Skeet UI for your paste
wow skeet ui thats the most important part of it
@@decc7648 yez men put the imgui skeetui on and you gonna hit p))))
5:48 he doesn’t like cheating against honest players “aww” ,and turns on rage cheats for amateur closet cheaters who find enjoyment to cheat against honest players. “Awwww”
Alright! this was eye opener ...
I'm uninstalling CSGO. Losing battle this one.
already did a long time ago, it's just not worth it when you never know if the person killing you is a cheater, a dickhole smurf, or just an honest player. rage inducing.,
Cheating always have been an issue on online multiplayer games, let's get real...there really isn't a mp game without cheaters, but sometimes our lack of skill made us blame others.
+Xander Niles
It's a problem, no other game has it nearly as bad as CSGO.
Dover you sure about that? **cough** pubg **cough**
yep, sure. PUBG is nowhere near as influential or bad as csgo.
With the right words, you can make any topic sound wholesome
"panorama ui confirmed?"
phillip you need to become a predictor
Valve being very strict on skin changes (which usually costs money) vs being lax on actual game-breaking cheats is rather telling.
No they aren't. Skin changers are free and undetected. Also they are client side
Why didn't Valve banned "The Suspect"? Is he that good that he gets on Overwatch every time?
Xd
XD
@Monarch you gotta be kidding right LOL?
@@ThinkCS2 ...perhaps
@@MonCalypso you should know by now who the suspect is, been 11 months
A game mode where everyone has cheats? Huh, for some reason that actually sounds interesting.
It is, i actually play it on a daily basis, requires alot of skill, a good cheat and some map knowledge, i recommend you try it out it's pretty fun, that being said you'll actually need proper cheats made specifically for HVH.
For starters i'd recommend aimware or zeus, if you don't want to pay then you can find cracked or free cheats online although they won't do as good.
And not cheating will result in a 1 month cooldown
trust me it's just pure cancer.
Too bad that it's p2w /s
Stencil Zhi-Yi true
Maybe this is a dumb idea, but if a rage cheat can make a fake player model that other aimlocks lock on to, why doesnt valve just litter the maps with invisible "player models" so that when someone tries to use an aimlock it just locks onto some random space on the map instead of an actual player? This is the day i beat the aim lock
could be laggy
not how aimlocks work bud. Plus there are simple checks to see whether that “invisible model” is a actual dormant player or not
you could easily check if the player was dormant or use the check that valve would use to make the real players take damage.
You played to much minecraft, also theres an option to exclude those things out of your aimbot.
It's a great thought without coding knowledge unfortunately it just wouldn't work.
HvH meta on higher level would be pretty much baiting on wallbangspots with shoulderpeek
1:42 "You can hide them I want to be known please"
This is pretty accurate , but you should have talked to an actual coder of a paid cheat , would have given you even better insight
Ur a paster and not a coder so
Ruspy never said I was reffering to me lol
Ruspy plus i dont code nor paste
like if they would give info about their cheats so that valve can patch them. sure thing buddy
claptrap Kubrick doesn’t code skeetcheat ROFL who is winter ???
But clearely a lot of them like do cheat agaisnt legit players.
These are the worst, everytime they loose they think their opponents are using cheats instead of admiting there are people who are better at the game.
valve just ban the suspect -_-
good one
"The Suspect" is a suspected cheater and not one certain player
@@theCometPM whooosh
@@ethanguddal8593 Its not obviously a joke so I just wanted to let him know just in case
Ikr why didn't they just ban the suspect smh
Cheaters who deny cheating are the worst but the cheaters who blatantly do it and just for fun are not as bad as the 1st ones who say they’re good but their obvious cheaters those people piss me off
Next CSGO update: We've added a server just for HVH.
hvh game mode and then ban everyone who uses it GG
LOL no
Yes lets fucking do it make servers just for cheaters wait till all of them have used it then bammm get banned bitches
Great idea.
what if your legit but joins?
Then they'll come back and not go in the hvh mode. If they want to play against other hackers, then a hvh mode or mm would benefit legit players honestly.
I can hear the thumbnail saying “We’re done when I say we’re done.”
You treat cheaters as though you are another species XD I like that
This can be a problem, if cheaters get their dedicated space to play cs, then more and more players will be motivated to cheat which will result in a bad community.
"A cheating only server won't encourage more to cheat in online against legits."
How?
PUBG is an example of BattlEye banning thousands of non-cheaters just because they are running the "wrong" software in the background...
Yup I was one of those
Carbon stfu u hacker
what was the wrong software?
They're also banning tens of thousands of cheaters at a much higher rate though.
Dani hackers are typically willing to buy more than one account so thats not really an excuse for cheating innocent people out of a product they payed full price for
I must say this documentary was quite fascinating keep up the great work dude
* joins ranked *
-hvh?
* starts spinbotting *
-FBI OPEN UP
Plot Twist: Philip interviewed himself
I can understand the interest in developing cheats and searchig for new explotits. But there is no reason to test things in multiplayer. Test against bots in insecure mode. To say "It's my hobby" is a bad excuse to cheat online against normal players.
DerDango is this a joke right, how could you test something, if you cannot get in a sever that is controlled by Valve aka matchmaking
How is there no reason to test against other players? The cheat has to be tested against VAC, overwatch, other players and other hackers, otherwise its not really a test of anything.
If you want to test against VAC then start a bot match outside the insecure mode. A local server is VAC protected aswell. There is no need to harm honest palyers. The bots represent other players.
Vac is worth shit. Its about the psychology of the other players and overwatch, not about VAC and bots.
DerDango where's the fun in that
just watched this video back again, i must say this is probably the best video you have ever made.
asking for HvH from valve O M E G A L U L
Asking valve for anything O M E G A L U L
lol*
r/woosh
edit: ok since nobody has >3 IQ and can't put 2 and 2 together, or read the replies below, this was aimed at RHGravity, not petithor
C l a p
@@katra5673 it aint a woosh
I actually do have a MUCH better understanding of cheaters after watching this. I never knew that they were so detached from reality that they actually tried to justify what they were doing as being beneficial to others. Fascinating...
Sociopaths can still be friendly when they want...
Did you just compare cheating in an online video game to being a sociopath? Wow
Did you just compare cheating in an online video game to being a sociopath? Wow
Sociopaths tend to have a hard time actually being friendly, specifically because they can't recognize people as being as valuable as them and thus they will almost always reveal specific types of behavior. Most notably narcissism and self-importance. They also don't generally justify their behavior to other people because they find no value in such, they don't value other people so why would they care if they harm other people. There are also way too many hackers in CSGO for most if any of them to statistically be sociopaths hacking the game. The whole hvh thing also wouldn't be brought up if this was the subject of sociopaths. All in all this is a flawed comparison. It's also a rather degrading one, even most criminals aren't actually sociopaths, and often times they're just straight up murderers if they are gonna commit a crime. And at the end of the day I don't believe most hackers in any game are doing it out of malicious intent, most of them segregate themselves from the public community at large, and even the malicious community likely are only made up of a super minority of sociopaths at best.
@@Spartan322 u are crazy
@@brakintelektualny7291 Thank you.
This video was a lot different than I thought it'd be
Fidget spinner: active
cool
nice and simple.
Bronzewarrior comment off the year
Bronze indeed
Bronze &
WAAAAA
Cheaters have moral standards...
yeah right as if
hes talking about cheaters the coders th one who analyze the game not that russian kid who watched a youtube video on autoaim
@HdP Andrus you tried :D
Wow so informational, im really glad you had the chance for this interview!
3:18 predicting the future
former cheater here, hacking in csgo is fucking *boring*.
i got into it cause my friend had a cheat called Killit, and it was fun for a time going on Blacksite and shit.
then Killit stopped working, so i got OTC from my mate. that was a bit fun too, but not really as fun as i previously had.
then my other friend made his own wallhack which was completely undetectable (i used it on my main to win clan tryouts, they were shit anyway lol)
after a while though, my interest waded and i stopped. i still have the folder of like a billion unused DLL's that i injected once and never used again.
unless you play something like HVH with someone or against someone you know personally, cheating is fucking boring in regular MM, Wingman, Casual and HVH against randoms.
i got banned on my main, didnt care all that much since i didnt play CSGO much anyway.
a big problem with cheating is that you can make an account with the same email over and over and over and over and over again, nonstop, giving you pretty much infinite retries.
it sucks everyone, dont cheat in csgo cause its boring (unless you're mentally deranged lol)
Only time I had fun was trolling. It's a bit funny or not if no one talks
How HvH servers can help Valve
1. Cheaters do not have to disturb legit play, thus disrupting people's ranks and scores.
2. Valve can analyze the HvH matches and improve VAC with the information gained.
3. It can deter cheaters from cheating on a legit server, risking bans.
4. It gives a new reason to cheat, and to get better at cheating, rather than at the game itself.
A match with or against a cheater is not an actual match. You don’t actually play, you only wait for it to end being unable to do anything. That “match” takes time, your time! Time that you could spent chilling or even working. How valuable is your time? How should be called someone stealing something of value to you?
Those “legit” coward ones are the worst.
Thank you, all Hackers are just arse holes in my opinion