In all sincerity, you are one of the few tech reviewers that never wastes my time, and I appreciate the time and effort you put in to your builds, reviews and videos. That having been said, my wife is not as fond of you, as you cost HER money (my money!). Going to build in this case, been meaning to update a modest TrueNas build that also is hitting it's limits. I use 12 TB "refurb" drives from Amazon, normally HGST or WD Gold. Give me a few weeks to build it, and will come back and attach pics!
Bought one after seeing your video (my NAS was overdue for an upgrade). Build quality is impeccable, and it is gorgeous. The instructions are a bit lacking (I still have a bunch of screws that I have no idea what they're for), and the order of operations is strange (why is manual saying to stick the filters AFTER installing everything, it makes no sense) The space between the 4x drive bay and the PSU is TIGHT on mine, I have had to use quite a bit of strength to get everything to fit. Plugging in the whole backplane from the back was also a bit of a pain, but manageable. Airflow seems good for now (all bay populated, I'm at 40°C on full load with no tweaking of the fans). Also, you are right : only using 4 rubber thingies is much smoother for the drives than using all 6. and I also wished they'd gone with actual trays. I guess it's a space constraint more than anything else. Overall : good stuff !
Is the A2000 *only* for your media server transcoding? (If so) I'm surprised you hadn't switched to an Intel Arc A310/A380 card for AV1 encoding support. I know plex doesn't support AV1 yet but the resale value of the A2000 allows one to replace it with an ARC card AND have money for more drives/other server upgrades. I recently did this exact thing paired with a switch to Jellyfin to leverage the AV1 functionality.
I'm not sure the 2990wx supports rebar. From what research I could manage in the past, it seems the Arc cards will encode one stream really well without it, but two simultaneously and the performance apparently tanks.
The transcoding workload is for my footage ingestion, not for media. All my BRAW and Prores raw footage gets transcoded to HEVC as it enters the server prior to cataloging and archiving.
Thanks for taking the time to produce this review, however, don’t let the lack of a reset button worry you. If you need to use a reset button on your server, then the lack of the button isn’t your biggest problem.
I considered getting this case, but decided to go with the jmcd. Like you mentioned, the biggest downside of the jmcd is the size limits for the cooler and the gpu.
I've been looking to build in this case for a while. There are not many options for E-ATX motherboards with a lot of drive bays. The only thing holding me back right now is the uncertainty of the backplane compatibility with SAS drives. I can see in the pictures that they could fit on the backplane, but not sure if SFF to sata cables would actually carry out SAS signals to the drives. I don't think anyone has tried that so I thought maybe you could expand a little on that?
I have actually been looking for a case like this as I game on my PC but also run a plex server off of it too and I am currently out of storage slots as i need to add more drives. I currently have a thermaltake core v21 cube case so this isn't much bigger area wise than what i currently have.
Its looks like an ultimate home lab machine. Can fit video-cards for AI, can fit lot of hard-drives for storage. Putting that in storage room is a nice thing.
Silverstone makes a few, they max out at 8 bays I think, and one from Corn just popped up in my Newegg suggestions that looks like a standard ATX tower with 10 hot swap bays. I may check that one out.
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What is the point of mixture of molex and sata on the backplane?
I'm planning to build a small server too, but was wondering if i could have some advice. I noticed in your setup you had an RTX A2000, and i was also planning on using those originally , but for the jonsbo N4 as I didn't know the N5 was out. Now that with the N5 you have the option of adding full sized graphics cards i wanted to ask if you had a good recommendation on a not too overly expensive GPU dollar per vram kind off. To be able to use as a storage server / locally hosted language model , and homeassistant etc. My original plan would've been to get a 12GB A2000, and add another one later. In pair with a Ryzen 7 9700x and 4 sticks of 48GB Crucial DDR5 5600Mhz on a B650
I do quite like this case of looking for a tabletop format. If i werent fully rack mounted i would consider it. That said, i hate their drive sled mechanism. I have an N2 that i use for drive testing and its easily the worst thing about it.
Missed opportunity to include an affiliated link. Why not include them for good reviews by yourself? (I am aware it is sold out. But doesn't hurt to include a link!)
I don’t have affiliate relationships with any of the brands I review, but there are tagged products in the description, or in the products icon on the lower left side of the video. This is a RUclips feature and I do earn a small commission on sales.
I don't speak english as my first, my bad. I believe you misunderstood me. After your review process when you found the product to be good... given you found the product to be good... why not add a link to the product (affiliated. At least non affiliated.) Thanks for the review!
Too many factors to consider. Does the 12V rail on the PSU the molex cable uses provide the max 10-11 Amps? Can the wiring used actually handle a full 120-132 watt load? What is the spin surge wattage of the drives used? Are you using spin-up surge staggering? I’m not powering 8 16-24 tb drives on 2 molex connections, and I’m definitely not doing it on a single cable.
The cost might be a deal breaker, because I'm also having a hard time stomaching HexOS and they're $200-300 cost. Lets say I buy them now and not wait that's about $460+Tax&Shipping and all I have so far is a empty case and an OS.. Though I do have an old PC that I can repurpose I'll have to rebuy a cheap GPU because no dedicated graphics but most of those parts I believe should fit inside the N5. Clearly I'm a noob and could use some help, is roughly $500 good for a base NAS without the drives? And second I can start it up with 1 SSD(For OS) and 2 HDD is enough to set it up for raid?
@@ElevatedSystems I guess I should've looked at the physical dimensions a little closer, N2 is about the same volume as the other cases I was looking at, despite taking a larger PSU. It is almost double the price.. but having built a friend a PC in a D31, I know I'll be much happier with the Jonsbo in the long run.
I do quite like this case of looking for a tabletop format. If i werent fully rack mounted i would consider it. That said, i hate their drive sled mechanism. I have an N2 that i use for drive testing and its easily the worst thing about it.
Ty for reviewing this case. I think this is going to be a gem that the DIY community is going to love.
In all sincerity, you are one of the few tech reviewers that never wastes my time, and I appreciate the time and effort you put in to your builds, reviews and videos. That having been said, my wife is not as fond of you, as you cost HER money (my money!). Going to build in this case, been meaning to update a modest TrueNas build that also is hitting it's limits. I use 12 TB "refurb" drives from Amazon, normally HGST or WD Gold. Give me a few weeks to build it, and will come back and attach pics!
Mine should arrive Wednesday. First NAS build and I think this will help a LOT.
Bought one after seeing your video (my NAS was overdue for an upgrade).
Build quality is impeccable, and it is gorgeous.
The instructions are a bit lacking (I still have a bunch of screws that I have no idea what they're for), and the order of operations is strange (why is manual saying to stick the filters AFTER installing everything, it makes no sense)
The space between the 4x drive bay and the PSU is TIGHT on mine, I have had to use quite a bit of strength to get everything to fit.
Plugging in the whole backplane from the back was also a bit of a pain, but manageable.
Airflow seems good for now (all bay populated, I'm at 40°C on full load with no tweaking of the fans).
Also, you are right : only using 4 rubber thingies is much smoother for the drives than using all 6. and I also wished they'd gone with actual trays. I guess it's a space constraint more than anything else.
Overall : good stuff !
I love the N1. Been running it for over a year and it's been great. But I want more hardware in the future. This could be the right case.
Is the A2000 *only* for your media server transcoding? (If so) I'm surprised you hadn't switched to an Intel Arc A310/A380 card for AV1 encoding support. I know plex doesn't support AV1 yet but the resale value of the A2000 allows one to replace it with an ARC card AND have money for more drives/other server upgrades. I recently did this exact thing paired with a switch to Jellyfin to leverage the AV1 functionality.
I'm not sure the 2990wx supports rebar. From what research I could manage in the past, it seems the Arc cards will encode one stream really well without it, but two simultaneously and the performance apparently tanks.
The transcoding workload is for my footage ingestion, not for media. All my BRAW and Prores raw footage gets transcoded to HEVC as it enters the server prior to cataloging and archiving.
Thanks for taking the time to produce this review, however, don’t let the lack of a reset button worry you. If you need to use a reset button on your server, then the lack of the button isn’t your biggest problem.
I really like how that case looks like even though it's quite big; would totally get it if I would need a NAS
All the small components are overpriced af, so big sometimes is the only way
I considered getting this case, but decided to go with the jmcd. Like you mentioned, the biggest downside of the jmcd is the size limits for the cooler and the gpu.
Nice review. Thank you. This helped me decide and so, I pulled the trigger.
Just ordered one--have several mods planned
I've been looking to build in this case for a while. There are not many options for E-ATX motherboards with a lot of drive bays. The only thing holding me back right now is the uncertainty of the backplane compatibility with SAS drives. I can see in the pictures that they could fit on the backplane, but not sure if SFF to sata cables would actually carry out SAS signals to the drives. I don't think anyone has tried that so I thought maybe you could expand a little on that?
I have actually been looking for a case like this as I game on my PC but also run a plex server off of it too and I am currently out of storage slots as i need to add more drives. I currently have a thermaltake core v21 cube case so this isn't much bigger area wise than what i currently have.
Its looks like an ultimate home lab machine. Can fit video-cards for AI, can fit lot of hard-drives for storage. Putting that in storage room is a nice thing.
Does this case even have competition ? Are there other ATX cases with hotswap bays that aren't rack mounted ?
Silverstone makes a few, they max out at 8 bays I think, and one from Corn just popped up in my Newegg suggestions that looks like a standard ATX tower with 10 hot swap bays. I may check that one out.
What is the point of mixture of molex and sata on the backplane?
Wonder if jonsbo will come with 24-bay rack mount solution next. Would be nice though..
can you do a video on how you setup the temp monitoring probes on the HHDs and setup the fan curve?
what tempature sensor do you use?
I'm planning to build a small server too, but was wondering if i could have some advice. I noticed in your setup you had an RTX A2000, and i was also planning on using those originally , but for the jonsbo N4 as I didn't know the N5 was out. Now that with the N5 you have the option of adding full sized graphics cards i wanted to ask if you had a good recommendation on a not too overly expensive GPU dollar per vram kind off. To be able to use as a storage server / locally hosted language model , and homeassistant etc. My original plan would've been to get a 12GB A2000, and add another one later. In pair with a Ryzen 7 9700x and 4 sticks of 48GB Crucial DDR5 5600Mhz on a B650
good review thanks
just bought it, ali express, nice!
Can it handle sas drives?
That thing is a beast, but way overkill for my needs. I still want one though😄
Way to OP, i love it😂
Pretty sure the backplane power is meant to be either Sata or molex not both.
The 8 drives on the single backplane can draw about 10 more watts than I’d feel safe putting on a single SATA cable.
@@ElevatedSystems Then use molex. Why would you use both?
Yes, exactly. Both SATA and Molex can safely power those drives, but Molex should be able to provide even more power.
reminds me of the old coolermaster haf xb...obv this is a lot more modern and sleek looking
the Jonsbo North XL N5! 😅 nice piece tho!!
The 8 LED makes no sense to me. Jonsbo... 4 on the left, 4 on the right... easy peezy.
My old dusty house would make this case a problem, but overall I still like it.
That looks like a sick case, but i have my nas crammed into a fractal meshify 2XL
Thank you.
🎉🎉🎉 LETS GOOO !!! 🎉🎉
I do quite like this case of looking for a tabletop format. If i werent fully rack mounted i would consider it.
That said, i hate their drive sled mechanism. I have an N2 that i use for drive testing and its easily the worst thing about it.
Unraid does not need threadripper lol. What a waste of money. Also I'm jealous.
I'll trade it's looks for it's performance.
a light lubricant on the slides will make them slide just fine.
Good idea, just need to be sure its a silicone based lubricant.
Missed opportunity to include an affiliated link.
Why not include them for good reviews by yourself?
(I am aware it is sold out. But doesn't hurt to include a link!)
I don’t have affiliate relationships with any of the brands I review, but there are tagged products in the description, or in the products icon on the lower left side of the video. This is a RUclips feature and I do earn a small commission on sales.
I don't speak english as my first, my bad.
I believe you misunderstood me.
After your review process when you found the product to be good... given you found the product to be good... why not add a link to the product (affiliated. At least non affiliated.)
Thanks for the review!
Shouldn't 1 Molex be able to power 4 HDDs? You shouldn't have to use both SATA and Molex, they are there just as extra options.
Too many factors to consider. Does the 12V rail on the PSU the molex cable uses provide the max 10-11 Amps? Can the wiring used actually handle a full 120-132 watt load? What is the spin surge wattage of the drives used? Are you using spin-up surge staggering? I’m not powering 8 16-24 tb drives on 2 molex connections, and I’m definitely not doing it on a single cable.
A AMD Threadripper isn't that a little OP for a home nas😂
Like I said it was recycled from my old production workstation. Nothing is cheaper than something you already own.
The cost might be a deal breaker, because I'm also having a hard time stomaching HexOS and they're $200-300 cost. Lets say I buy them now and not wait that's about $460+Tax&Shipping and all I have so far is a empty case and an OS.. Though I do have an old PC that I can repurpose I'll have to rebuy a cheap GPU because no dedicated graphics but most of those parts I believe should fit inside the N5.
Clearly I'm a noob and could use some help, is roughly $500 good for a base NAS without the drives? And second I can start it up with 1 SSD(For OS) and 2 HDD is enough to set it up for raid?
Don’t pay for a NAS OS. Just use TrueNAS Core.
Don't use HexOS.
I hope they decide to make an n5 mini that takes an itx board, flex atx PSU and 4 hdds. The china-brand cases of this size on Amazon look pretty meh.
So like the Jonsbo N2?
@@ElevatedSystems I guess I should've looked at the physical dimensions a little closer, N2 is about the same volume as the other cases I was looking at, despite taking a larger PSU. It is almost double the price.. but having built a friend a PC in a D31, I know I'll be much happier with the Jonsbo in the long run.
Piercing blue indicator lights?! Nooooo!!! And in a chassis that's clearly meant to be in an environment that isn't just a server closet.
You can turn off the indicator lights if you don’t want to look at them.
I bought one 8|
It's only overpriced (for my budget) and the drives setup is a little quirky as you pointed out. All else is just fine.
I boycott manufacturers that copies other manufacturers. Jonsbo totally rips off Fractal Design. How can you have a review and not mention this?
getting way to big
Not a fan of this case
I do quite like this case of looking for a tabletop format. If i werent fully rack mounted i would consider it.
That said, i hate their drive sled mechanism. I have an N2 that i use for drive testing and its easily the worst thing about it.
If you never have to pull them the rubber is pretty good for vibration dampening.
But for å drive testing machine? No thanks!