Elizabeth I and William Camden: The New Information and Findings in Context
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- Last month we got news of an historical text discovery that is providing us with new information about the Elizabethan period and its legacy. Today, I want to talk about this text as a whole, to explore it within its historical context - what do we know about the author? What did we think we knew about his work? And how much has this discovery changed our earlier understanding?
Let’s take a look at William Camden and his Annales…
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Images (from Wikimedia Commons, unless otherwise stated):
Screenshots for title sequence from:
1) www.theguardian.com/books/202...
2) www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-...
3) www.finebooksmagazine.com/fin...
Screenshots from British Library press release from: www.bl.uk/press-releases/2023...
The title page of William Camden's Britannia (1607 edition).
Portrait of Gabriel Goodman, a copy by George Perfect Harding, after an unknown artist’s watercolour (early 19th century). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Map showing the rivers of England only.
Detail from the funeral procession of Elizabeth I of England, 1603. William Camden, Clarenceux King of Arms is shown bearing the Tabard or "coate", between two gentleman ushers (c.1603). From Richard Marks and Anne Payne, eds. “British Heraldry, from its origins to c. 1800”, British Museum Publications, 1978.
Detail from the funeral procession of Elizabeth I of England, 1603 showing "The Helme and Creaste borne by Raffe Brooke Yorke Herald of Armes" (c.1603). From Richard Marks and Anne Payne, eds. “British Heraldry, from its origins to c. 1800”, British Museum Publications, 1978.
Portrait of William Camden by or after Marcus Gheeraerts the Younger (17th century, based on a work of 1609). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Frontispiece and titlepage from a 1675 edition of William Camden's biography of Queen Elizabeth I. From the private Collection of S. Whitehead.
Quoted texts:
www.bl.uk/press-releases/2023...
Wyman H. Herendeen, ODNB entry on William Camden.
Also consulted, were:
Other relevant entries from The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography Online.
openlibrary.org/books/OL69288...
www.bl.uk/collection-guides/c...
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It is known that the empress Agrippina, Nero's mother, wrote an autobiography but unfortunately it hasn't survived . Even though the chances are slim I still hope that this book is waiting on a dark shelf of an obscure monastery to be discovered by a courageous researcher.
I literally just watched a documentary about Nero's beginnings on Friday and that Agrippina had a sad ending. It would be interesting to know more about her from her own words.
Yes!!
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Something tells me that given the time it has passed and the way she fell from grace, the chances of finding that autobiography are very very very slim
According to the public of that time all we know about Nero today is a lie. The citizens were just as literate them as they are now. In most cases multi lingual. The slaves did all the business of the day so they were very much multi lingual. Anyway, hundreds of thousands of artifacts, letters, etc have been found in garbage heaps, graffiti, etc claiming the people absolutely loved Nero. That he was a true blessing to the citizens and it was the senate who hated him. It was they whom began a propaganda campaign against him. Much like the cia against Trump today. I'd like to know for sure which side is telling the truth. Although I know already the citizens are. Because we don't need monuments built to tell us people are bad. We only do that when they are loved and the state needs to convince the next generation otherwise.
I'm an American but I find British history fascinating. Thank you for your videos.
I totally agree with you!! Fascinating!!❤️
Depending on your bloodline, this could be your history too.
@@tergre54 so true!!
@@tergre54 You're right. Most of my family is from the UK so that's probably why I love it.
🌹(Wars of the Roses emoji) This American loves Dr. Kat too!
Brilliant, it shows that history is not always what were told and even lost or hidden histories are coming to light📜📜✒
Thank you, Dr. Kat, for producing such interesting and informative videos! I very much enjoy not only your content, but the manner in which you present it. I live in a rural area in Western Maryland and know very few people who share my interest in English history. I truly appreciate you and your channel.
I've been obsessed with Elizabeth I since I was 7 (and a lot more figures/events as I've gotten older) and it was definitely lonely before finding all the awesome historians and fellow always-students online. It's so nice having ways to always explore and find new content, research, etc
I am an American listening. I am fascinated by the pilgrims who went to Leiden then onto the new world. The Pilgrims appear to be separatists, not Puritans. I would like to know more about what drove these groups to actually leave Europe w/out them being lumped together.
Thank you Dr. Kat for another wonderful video! Nice to see hard evidence of censorship in historical documents. 🕯️👑💂🏻
@garyallen8824 no, I did not say or imply that I am pro-censorship. I merely pointed out that it is nice to see the physical evidence that censorship is not a recent invention. One always hears the “history is written by the victors” spiel and now we have proof.
Would love to see a video on the religious art created during the Tudor era. It was such a tumultuous time, in terms of religion, I would like to see how artists were expressing their beliefs, and what prior time periods they drew inspiration from. (For instance, the way artists of the Dark Ages patterned their Madonna and Child after Egypt’s Isis.) 🖼️ 🎨 👩🎨
Interesting idea
It is fascinating what we are learning from the past using modern technology. Thank you for bring this to our attention. ❤❤
We must always remember that history is written from someone’s point of view and the facts that are presented are always bias even when when trying our best to be truth and unbiased.🫅👑🌹🏰 Dr. Kat , your presentations always look at not only the historical event, but the background, sources and the attached biases. Your work is excellent and always a joy to behold!
I think that the present is also written from someone else’s point of view. You only have to look at how the various newspapers report the same incident to see that there are biases and points of view that dictate how they report current affairs.
In high school I took extension history (a subject which looks at history and how it is told) and this was a big part of it, as well as the different lenses History can be viewed through.
Yes it and she is a joy to behold.
Which is why > critical thinking <
and analysis are important tools when studying history and present day politics 😉
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❤ Thank you, Dr. Kat! Love the way that you bring history to life!
I can't remember what it was, but I read an intriguing theory where it was posited that Henry the 8th's difficulty with fathering a male heir was due to Rh factor incompatibility or McLeod syndrome, another blood antigen disorder . Being in the medical field, this theory fascinated me, and the way it was presented checked out. I doubt any genetic testing would be allowed, but that would be an interesting thing to find out. Staying within the Tudor family, I think it was mentioned that Elizabeth the first may have had Marfan syndrome (but I don't think this theory is especially likely ). Fascinating video, as always.
Love your content girl! Thanks for all your dedication!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Thank you for your kind words and encouragement 😊
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I would love a video on the most important English antiquaries and their famous discoveries and works. In many cases, their records and drawings are all we have of lost places and events. Thanks, Dr. Kat. Love your channel❤
It is 2.55am in Aoteara N.Z. And I am in bed waiting for the programme to start. It sounds very interesting! Thanks for sharing it with us ❤
Shout-out from middle-of-the-night Ōtautahi/Chch! 😊
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 😊I’m in Christchurch also Anna. Have a good night dreaming of Elizabethans 😴
It's always great to hear you present these bits of history
It’s always good to remember that primary documents were written by people, with all the biases and influences that implies. 👑
Really interesting video. When it comes to a history mystery, I've always wished that the two children's skeletons found under the tower of london were DNA tested to confirm whether or not they are the princes of the tower who went missing. I don't really understand why the royal family don't want to have that confirmed, when they were perfectly happy to provide DNA for the murdered Romanovs to confirm those bodies found. It might give us more clues as to what happened to the princes and who is to blame, but for now we just don't know.
Thank you for simply and clearly describing the background to help us understand these fascinating discoveries. As always, very enlightening.💡
another fascinating piece of history brought to light. Historians are among my favourite people and Dr. Kat is one of the most informative - thank you for your content 😊
I find these kinds of discoveries so amazing. It makes me image what could be hidden, somewhere and what we could learn from it.
I think perhaps a valuable and timely reminder that written historical documents as they come to us are not neutral or necessarily 100% accurate to real life...? Even though they do tend to be relied on so heavily in academic research, and also usually given great weight over oral or pictorial accounts (or even contextual object finds)?
Kudos Dr. Kat as always for your clear, fluent & concise narration (presumably from pre-written script?) even in a livestream! Not all RUclipsrs manage such a natural style when transmitting live!
Gosh, an Elizabethan emoji... Perhaps this one 💎 Given how invested their monied classes and nobles/royals were in the conspicuous display of wealth at the time?! 😝
Other than the obvious crown emoji, I think that some possible contenders for an Elizabethan-themed emoji include:
1. 🌍 or 🌎 (the globe) - This can obviously be because of the beginnings of globalization and the numerous colonies under Elizabeth I, but also a reference to the Armada Portrait, where she's holding a globe.
2. 💃 (the dancing woman) - Queen Elizabeth I loved dancing, so this one feels like an obvious choice to me.
3. 🧦 (socks) - This choice might seem a bit odd, but as someone who loves knitting-themed history tidbits, there are 2 well-known stories that often make me think of socks whenever I think of Queen Elizabeth I: First, there's that story about how, shortly after she became queen, a lady-in-waiting gifted her her first ever pair of knitted silk stockings. Up until that point in her life, Elizabeth had only worn/owned woven wool stockings. She was so delighted with her new pair that she declared that she would only ever silk knitted stockings for the rest of her life. Second, there was a man named William Lee who invented the first ever knitting machine; when he showed it to Elizabeth I, she refused to grant him a patent, and explained that it was because she did not want to destroy the livelihoods of those who knit stockings for a living.
👸 Thank you for another wonderful podcast. And to think that somebody actually edited to historical documents! Who knew? And this is the best Elizabeth Emoji I could find.
This video is very, very interesting. History is written by the victors…or the successor. Thank you for bringing it to us! 👑🥳
🎭🪡 I love how even our understanding of history can change with new data. Love your content Dr Kat, keep it up.
This is so interesting. Your analysis and the analysis of the doctoral student makes sense. I know that history that I have personally witnessed and experienced isn't necessarily portrayed as I saw it. ❤❤
This period is so fascinating. Exploration of the world, the records that were kept, the splitting up of the church, science was beginning to become mainstream. So many interesting characters.🌎
Won’t be able to make the premiere but will be watching as soon as I get home. As always thank you so much Dr Kat!
After seeing records being sealed by the British monarchy recently, I now am very curious about how many secrets will ever come out about the royals of the past. All very intriguing.
I had read of this discovery but found your discussion of the context and probable reasons for the changes fascinating. I’d like to hear more about the roles in court, and how people used the savages gained by these appointments. ❤
It’s always exciting to hear about what is new in the discovery of history. 🎉
I agree that, having steadfastly refused to name a successor all this time, Elizabeth is not at all likely to have changed her mind at the last minute and signaled her approval of James. I wonder if she really would have approved of him? If she didn’t, that’s all the more reason for her to have said nothing at all!
She did approve of him. She and her advisors were prepping him and she was in contact with him. She simply was never going to name a successor anyways.
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Perhaps her advisers did not want a female queen again and that's why they got her cousin killed.
Hello from Japan!😊
🧱🧱🍗 ⚔️ 🕯️ 👑..A few red bricks for Hampton Court, a swan drum stick, swords, a candle and *THE* crown for Elizabethan England. Ha! I am also feeling a bit smug with this new discovery! I have always doubted *Elizabeth I* would willing designate James as her rightful successor. I have honestly always thought she died without naming anyone. Thank you and cheers!
Wow, that's amazing that Elizabeth never wanted James to succeed her to the throne. I never knew that. Thank you for the information!😯
This is absolutely fascinating! It is much more true to character that Elizabeth I did not - under any circumstances! - designate a successor.
Thank you Dr Kat, you have a wonderful speaking voice, an amazing way explaining.
I have always be fascinated by history and religions. How they enter twine and how they have shaped our world.
I’ve enjoyed every one of the subjects you’ve brought to life for us.
So, thank you
I'm so glad that new information can still be discovered with enough research! I'm glad you have been vindicated. 👑👑👑
Thank you Dr Kat💜🫅🏰🎪⚔️👑🛡️⚜️🚩🔔🕯️
It's always interesting when new information is found. Thank you, Dr. Kat♠️♠️♥️♥️
Only a bit in but had a record scratch moment when you quoted Dr. Wyman Herendeen - who works at the institution I received my BA in History. One of those moments of recognition you aren't expecting. He was chair of the English department for a long while when I worked in the college in the Dean's Office. Nice fellow, from the limited interactions I had with him (I worked primarily with arts departments).
The English mystery that I wold love to hear new breakthrough evidence about is the “princes in the tower.” 👑 🏰 I enjoy your videos, Dr. Kat!
I need to read Camden to gain a greater understanding on this topic. Unlike other books I haven’t read yet (Suetonius is giving me a glare from the bookshelf), I didn’t know Camden existed. 📕 📖 📚 👑👑🕯️⏳⌛️
The mind always boggles at the toxicity of the Tudor court. Finding Camden's revisions is very interesting.
Thank you for the historical news videos. Love learning all of the "new" old history discoveries. 📜
❤❤❤❤you move inspired me to get my MA in history.✨
Wow, this is huge! Can't wait to find out what else they can glean from these newly found writings.
You were right!! I am excited to hear more of their findings !
Historical sleuthing is so exciting! Thank you for sharing.
Wow! I would say that you are entitled to be feeling a bit more than smug. I was basically taught that Elizabeth indicated that it was her wish that James succeed her on the throne by a gesture, as she was too ill to speak. 👑
Hello from South Africa, Dr Kat. I would like to thank you for your fabulous videos and for the way you teach history so that the persons become so very human. I have always found history fascinating and you definitely feed my appetite for it! ❤❤❤
I was hoping you would talk about this! keep us posted with any new info. Thank you for your hard work. The recap of his life was very helpful.
Very interesting! What a lucky discovery to shed light on the truth vs PR. 🍷
This is a comment about how much I enjoy and learn from this channel. Thank you for all you do to inform us about so many fascinating subjects. I look forward to the future installments you post.
Hello Dr. Kat! I absolutely LOVE your videos-thank you for making them. I tried to leave an emoji, but RUclips wasn't having it. Instead, and this is not so much a mystery, but I have a question that has been on my mind for a while now, or a possible idea for a future video? How violent was the ‘Pilgrimage of Grace’ of 1536? I hear different versions from different historians. It doesn’t sound like it was a violent protest… or was it? How bad would it have been so bad as to scare Henry VIII? Or was he so indignant that his people would make demands of him, for his violent (and very underhanded) response? Or was he being ignorant, or arrogant, to the demands of his people? Also, were any Reformers involved? I understand that a great deal of a county’s economy often relied on the prosperity of the Abbeys… would the Reformers be concerned about this as well? Thank you- Love from Canada!
I haven't actually heard of William Camden before. His life sounds very interesting, and the insights about his writing on the Elizabethan age are fascinating. Hopefully as time goes on will learn more about events of the past by finding new ways to examine the historical documents.
Thank you for covering this great topic, Dr Kat! 💗👑
Checking out the annals of history.
Good times.
Good times.
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10:06 This colour plate. It’s glorious.
The composition is so unusual. I just love their little feet/shoes.
Fantastic.
Thank you so much Dr Kat for sharing this with me.
I very much appreciate it.
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Amazing that new historical detail is still being found.😊
Amazing how much info can still come
To light after 400 years
I, for one, confess to feeling a tad smug when I’m vindicated. 😄 Your videos are amazing. Many thanks! 🪶📜🌹
Interesting! As usual you give a clear explanation of complicated event. Thanks!!
I love history - so really enjoy your vlogs!! 🇨🇦👑
How absolutely fascinating to find this after so long 😊🌹
Think of all the discoveries to come! 💀💕
📖👑🏵 Love a good discovery story. Thank you.
Thanks again for the most interesting facts. ❤😊❤
It's always great to hear you present these bits of history. Love your content girl! Thanks for all your dedication!.
Vindication...the dish best served cold or hot....so pleased, but not surprised that you already knew this.😋
Very interested to see if there will be more interesting new information in Camden's Annals. Love your videos Dr. Kat. 🏵
Fascinating stuff Dr Kat! 📜👑👸🏼🏵️
👑 an unimaginative social glyph. Another interesting video - thank you.
Great video, as always! I hope this technology can unearth more information about history!
I think an Elizabethan emoji should be a ruff!
👍👍👸. Great video. There are so many histories that may someday be rediscovered.
Lovely understandable lectures again. Thanks 🤩
This has been a most interesting and enlightening video Dr Kat 😊👸🌞
Thank you Dr. Kat. I truly love watching your videos. Here are my Elizabethan emojis - ❤🏴☠🏵🎭👑🎼
Thanks so much! I'd like to see a video on some of those who lived a long life and prospered, despite being in Henry VIII's court. And what was the likelihood of surviving his court?
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I've always been interested in the Princes in the Tower. 🎭
👑 Well done, Kat! Thank you.
23:01 The two mysteries that shall, most probably, never be categorically solved in this time period are (1) was the marriage of Arthur and Catherine of Aragon ever consummated, and was Mary Queen of Scots forced to marry Bothwell?😮
More what ifs please
❤Also a friend of mine has just been accepted to join the Charterhouse community Given it is such an historic establishment an investigation by you of its history would be of great interest
Thank you for this video Dr. Kat. The historical mystery I wish new evidence would arise about is the fate of the princes.
⛪📔 for the Reforming measures of the Elizabethen period.
Oh, thank you for this new information! I follow Elizabeth 1 life and reign.
I actually just started this year. 🎆🌍🏰🌟🌌🌈
As always, fascinating content🗝🪓⛓
NEW HISTORY JUST DROPPED! I REPEAT! NEW HISTORY HAS JUST DROPPED!
This is very exciting!
I am wondering how, when previously unavailable information is uncovered (in this case, literally UNDER canon documents), historians determine which version is closest to the true recording of events? It seems in this case that the BM is interpreting the heretofore hidden information as closer to the truth, so how have they determined that the final drafts were embellishments or simply less accurate? Couldn't the overwrite have been to correct the first draft because that was inaccurate? How in the world do historians decide which version to propound as most factual?
As always, I really enjoyed your presentation.
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TY Dr. Kat for ALL TH E WORK U put into your research And Presentation of THAT research! You put SO MUCH into bringing us ALL this knowledge and bringing us So Many videos! 😊
🕯🍖 Okay, it's not very "Elizabethan" but a candle and joint of roasted meat is certainly associated with the Tudor court. 😋
Another awesome Topic, Thank You, Dr.Kat.
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I just wish there was an unadulterated contemporary account for Richard III and the lost Princes in the Tower. ⚓👑⚔
I'd love some information about the collection of relics held by the Elector "Friedrich der Weise" during the German Reformation... I always wondered if they were given away, put in storage, destroyed....
As always. Another great topic. Thank you Dr Kat ❤❤❤
I am always enthralled by the information you provide and the energy/enthusiasm you bring to your presentations.
Wonderful presentation, and I'm now subscribed. I would LOVE some definitive info on the Princes in the Tower. Thanks for the fascinating vid. I'm off to binge your channel:)
Another fascinating video, as always. Thanks Dr. Kat for another great Friday!🏵🗡🦁
💃She was a dancing queen!
Your thoroughness continues to astonish me. Thank you!
thank you Dr. Kat!
Thanks you for this update. 👸🏼👏🏼👏🏼🌹🌹🌹