Great review! Absolutely concur. After using the TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle Quadrant for the last few weeks, I can say without a doubt that the yoke is excellent. My biggest complaints come from the quadrant. My reversers respond precisely like yours (although I agree this is on MSFS 2020's end), but the overall build quality does not match the yoke's. The clamp securing the quadrant to the desk requires me to tighten it to the point that the metal begins to warp below the desk. Even tightened to such a degree, the quadrant doesn't feel nearly as secure as it should. Plus, the lack of a flaps lever, even without detents, is a cost-cutting measure that will undoubtedly leave many disappointed.
Hello!! Is there a throttle quadrant that has the detents for the flap control? Maybe I could pair this quadrant with another to create the ultimate cockpit? Thanks!!
Perfect review, very professional. Thanks a lot, subscribed! Now I've ordered the set and I'm really looking forward to use them in my next vatsim session :)
Great review ! I’ve got a GF Boeing yoke I used for my cockpit setup for Xplane 10/11 and the dimensions look about right for the TM. I will be getting it since the GF has some button problems and isn’t designed with the pendulum system as in the real ac. I too will be using the Bravo for my quad. Thanks for this review. Once I get the TM, I’ll be using it mainly for MSFS especially after pmdg releases their much anticipated 737. Hopefully it’s as good or better than zibos. Tho that may be close to impossible! Zibo has done excellent work on that ac! Cheers
For reverse thrust in msfs just use the same as the f2 button on the keypad decrease throttle and to cancel reverse briefly open and shut the throttles.This is for the PMPG 737.
amazing review patrick, proper information( although I didnt understand the 65536 because I am not a full on airliner pilot just a highschool student XD) . You killed it man!
Same bro I'm a freshman and all I have is a Logitech X-52 Professional of which I wish to have independent flight peripherals for airliners and general aviation.
65536 has nothing to do with being an airline pilot. That number basically means how many points the computer has to sense movement on the yoke. Hope this helped
Nice review! LOL for the crazy throttle jumps in FS 2020. Glad to see Thrustmaster have done a decent job in terms of build quality, at least with the yoke. Shame they did a little too much cost-cutting (I guess) with the throttle. I would have considered buying this kit if the throttle was a complete unit - with 6 axes (1 x flaps, 1x spoilers, 2 x thrust and 2 x reverse thrust). I wonder if the community are going to be modding this, fixing some of the shortcomings with 3D prints and custom electronics.
Yes that quad would be nice with it. The only thing this Boeing one left me wanting on the Bravo is bigger handle grips. I might pick up some aftermarket handles now.
Just an idea for you that i thought of, use the landing gear lever on this yoke as parking brake and landing gear on the bravo as the actual gear lever
Great First Look/Review Pat. I can't remember if you have the Honeycomb Bravo or not. If you do, what do you think of how the throttles compare to the Bravo? I'm quite interested in the Yoke, less so in the throttle unit. I second @Death Donky interest in follow up/long term review. -Lee
I'm having a lot of fun with my Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle. Nothing wrong with the throttle quadrant IMHO and I prefer it to the Honeycomb, as it looks nice, does not take up much space and functions as it should.
I see on you video you also have a deadzone. Strange how you dont mention this. I did also buy a TCA but after detecting a deadzone on both x- and y-axis I returned it and got back my money. Even tried a firmware update first... A deadzone simply makes a joystick or yoke useless for me as you would not find that in any real aircraft. Fly safe ....
Nice video mate. What do you think about the deadzone? Is it as bad as on the honeycomb? I want to combine it with the Thrustmaster Airbus Throttle Quadrant.
I've had my thrustmaster TPR pedals for a while, and if they came with a cable to plug into this, I would have misplaced it. What kind of cable is used to plug the pedals in? (I have the boeing tca pack on order, but it hasn't shipped yet).
It's a small thing, but it sure is a shame they didn't include the approach chart clip :( I assumed it was functional, so thanks for the heads up - other videos skipped over it.
Thank you for a nice review. Toggle/hold reverse thrust is the MSFS 2020 update 7 bug. Before it worked normally. I have to use decrease throttle instead. Could you please measure the yoke desk clamp dimensions? What ist the maximum desk thikness it can handle? Thank you.
Looks great except for the throttle quadrant not having flaps (detents) or TO/GA buttons. Also the reverser input just being a button instead of an axis. I'm curious how the yoke feels with other GA aircraft in MSFS? Trying to decide between this and honeycomb yoke. (Don't forget to deploy the speedbrake upon landing).
This was an incredible review!! You didn’t really cover the buttons located below the throttle levers. Do they light up? Stay depressed when pushed or pop up? Thanks!!
I'm pretty disappointed with the reverse levers though. They have no detents so it's either full reverse or idle throttle. It'd be great if they could add that in the future.
@@harrisonknight2562 This is also the problem with companies like FS elite. They are distributors and Have to say nice stuff so they can make money regardless of selling dogshit to us
In MSFS you can map the reverse buttons to “Hold Reverse Throttle” then use the throttle axes to set reverse throttle power. When you flip the reverse switches back, the throttle again acts as the throttle.
Hello guys! Im using mfs2020 on my xbox does anyone know how to setup the flaps on the tca quadrant? And do you guys know if i use dubble quadrant on the xbox does they both work Or only single one?
I have the alpha yoke which when compared to CH products is nice but it still suffers when trying to fine tune inputs while landing that I hope will not be a problem with this yoke.
Shouldn’t be a problem for you if coming from CH. This yoke has a much high resolution on Hall effect sensors, meaning it’s going to pick up very fine movements.
Can you try to connect it to Xbox series X to see if the reverse yoke it’s working properly or not in MFS2020? If not, Can you send an email to them, Or if you could contact them on their forum to request them fix this matter. I’m planning to have the Yoke as you made me hesitate once you told me about the reserve issue. Also, Do filming to record this on RUclips. Hopefully, they can fix it sooner with the incoming update. Thank you.
i do like the look, but common a landing gear switch like that, and i gues 15 cents extra for 3 lights that show red or green would be to expensive, i have the airbus throttle set myself and the thrust reverse works mutch better on it , so i gues using the joke with the airbuss throttle would be a better option
Anyone else having a problem with the throttle quadrant turn dial. As it's always in either speed, heading or altitude mode this then cause flightsim to think that button is being pressed continually and it then causes the heading, speed and altitude windows to go up and down in 10s rather than 1s
Yes exactly, I don't know how in the video are the settings, but I have only one quadrant and I can't chose to select altitude or heading or IAS, once I assigned the button them the knob will only works for heading, I havr to go to the settings each time which is not the case, the knobs is not working properly
I have one on pre-order, just wondering if I should order another boeing quadrant throttle. Or perhaps I'll just use it with the Bravo Quadrant instead.
The Bravo is great. As I was telling someone else. This Boeing quad made me want larger handles for the Bravo, which they do sell. I think I'm going to pick some up.
My Mach/HDG/Alt rotating outer knob is very "crunchy" instead of a smooth click to each station, Is this normal? Its almost like TM doesnt have any real gamers working there, just college grads with laptops. The gear lever needed to be a three way switch. They only put three levers so you will have to buy another throttle just for the one more they could have put on the first one, lol.
Hello. In my area, the Turtle-Beach velocity one is 500$ whilst the Thrust-Master is 750$. Is the 250$ extra for the Thrust-Master worth it? How does the Turtle-Beach compare to the Thrust-Master?
I’ve got the velocity one, it’s great for starters but if you want to get serious get this, I’m getting this aswell as the Airbus side stick captain pack
Calum is working on a full review of that unit. So far, It's $380, The TPM and 4 arm throttle quad with trim are a nice combo if you do GA. The yoke turns 180 degrees, typical straight shaft, and I'm not sure what sensors they use.
@@FSElite sounds good. Maybe give your thoughts on a comparison with the Turtle Beach one you reviewed recently. I think that would be very helpful to us viewers trying to decide between the two systems. Just a suggestion.
@@Thrust-Set-Simulations Tested and the Saitek pedals are working off the yoke USB port. Calum is working on a full review for the VelocityOne set by Turtle Back. The main differences I can tell so far are, price at $380, more features, on a fictional design. The TPM and 4 arm throttle quad with trim is a nice combo. The yoke turns 180 degrees, typical straight shaft, and I'm not sure what sensors they use. Reminds me of a premium modern day Saitek setup.
@@FSElite Thanks. Yeah, I saw the unboxing one. I have had a Saitek yoke and pedals for almost 10 years now, maybe longer. Thinking of upgrading. I do mostly airliner flying.
Hi Great review! very precise. What we can see: 1. difficult for any player out there to manage 3 different sim perfectly 2. Nobody has the real thing for reverse thrust I am surprise you don't use the 2 axis available on the Yoke for Flaps or even reverse thrust! you could avoid having 2 quadrants, no?
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The one thing that annoys me most is msfs does not allow us to export these controls setups so the community can share their mappings like in dcs
Great review! Absolutely concur. After using the TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle Quadrant for the last few weeks, I can say without a doubt that the yoke is excellent. My biggest complaints come from the quadrant. My reversers respond precisely like yours (although I agree this is on MSFS 2020's end), but the overall build quality does not match the yoke's. The clamp securing the quadrant to the desk requires me to tighten it to the point that the metal begins to warp below the desk. Even tightened to such a degree, the quadrant doesn't feel nearly as secure as it should. Plus, the lack of a flaps lever, even without detents, is a cost-cutting measure that will undoubtedly leave many disappointed.
Hello!! Is there a throttle quadrant that has the detents for the flap control? Maybe I could pair this quadrant with another to create the ultimate cockpit? Thanks!!
Great review! Reversers work now too, and you can put a USB reading light into that open USB slot for night flights
Very professional review and I like that product after watching this. Thank you so much for the demonstration and explaination.
Perfect review, very professional. Thanks a lot, subscribed! Now I've ordered the set and I'm really looking forward to use them in my next vatsim session :)
Excellent review! Seriously considering picking this yoke up. & yes, MSFS is weird with ‘reverse thrust’.
Great review ! I’ve got a GF Boeing yoke I used for my cockpit setup for Xplane 10/11 and the dimensions look about right for the TM. I will be getting it since the GF has some button problems and isn’t designed with the pendulum system as in the real ac. I too will be using the Bravo for my quad. Thanks for this review. Once I get the TM, I’ll be using it mainly for MSFS especially after pmdg releases their much anticipated 737. Hopefully it’s as good or better than zibos. Tho that may be close to impossible! Zibo has done excellent work on that ac! Cheers
What a great review Patrick!
Great review, enjoy your new throttle! Thank you!
Great review! I've pre ordered my set... would be nice if the flap lever had detents.
Good review of the Yoke and Throttle for the TCA Product. I fly a B-767 for UPS.
For reverse thrust in msfs just use the same as the f2 button on the keypad decrease throttle and to cancel reverse briefly open and shut the throttles.This is for the PMPG 737.
amazing review patrick, proper information( although I didnt understand the 65536 because I am not a full on airliner pilot just a highschool student XD) . You killed it man!
Same bro I'm a freshman and all I have is a Logitech X-52 Professional of which I wish to have independent flight peripherals for airliners and general aviation.
65536 has nothing to do with being an airline pilot. That number basically means how many points the computer has to sense movement on the yoke. Hope this helped
Awesome congratulations 🍾
Nice review! LOL for the crazy throttle jumps in FS 2020. Glad to see Thrustmaster have done a decent job in terms of build quality, at least with the yoke. Shame they did a little too much cost-cutting (I guess) with the throttle. I would have considered buying this kit if the throttle was a complete unit - with 6 axes (1 x flaps, 1x spoilers, 2 x thrust and 2 x reverse thrust). I wonder if the community are going to be modding this, fixing some of the shortcomings with 3D prints and custom electronics.
Thank you! That is the cool thing about the 3D printing era now.
@@FSElite how can i get your desk i love it
in MSFS you can map the side button on the throttle to Toggle reverse thrust, and then you can use the throttle to have full range of reverse thrust.
I'd love to see Yoke moving while A/P engaged.
I bet you would.
@@cbowers318haha
Yeah but it would cost like a thousand bucks
I’ll be getting the stand alone and pair it with the Bravo. Should be a nice combo
Yes that quad would be nice with it. The only thing this Boeing one left me wanting on the Bravo is bigger handle grips. I might pick up some aftermarket handles now.
Absolutely doing the same thing, my honeycomb yoke is having some massive issues now so a great time for an upgrade
Just an idea for you that i thought of, use the landing gear lever on this yoke as parking brake and landing gear on the bravo as the actual gear lever
@@morenutshell1565 Will probably do that, currently it’s on the GA flaps lever
Will get this when PMDG releases their much anticipated 737/777
Great First Look/Review Pat. I can't remember if you have the Honeycomb Bravo or not. If you do, what do you think of how the throttles compare to the Bravo? I'm quite interested in the Yoke, less so in the throttle unit. I second @Death Donky interest in follow up/long term review. -Lee
I'm having a lot of fun with my Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle. Nothing wrong with the throttle quadrant IMHO and I prefer it to the Honeycomb, as it looks nice, does not take up much space and functions as it should.
It looks great 👍
This Yoke is amazing
I see on you video you also have a deadzone. Strange how you dont mention this. I did also buy a TCA but after detecting a deadzone on both x- and y-axis I returned it and got back my money. Even tried a firmware update first... A deadzone simply makes a joystick or yoke useless for me as you would not find that in any real aircraft. Fly safe ....
again you can remove it in the settings
What are your recommended sensitivity settings for this yoke in MSFS and Xplane? Any deadzone? Also, are you using 3 springs or 4?
Best review, thanks a lot!
Like very much ir is down to facts and not hysterical at all.
i wonder how pairing the yoke with the airbus throttles and controls would work. might be a better setup for airliners
I'm going to be using this yoke on GA aircrafts as well
Nice video mate.
What do you think about the deadzone? Is it as bad as on the honeycomb?
I want to combine it with the Thrustmaster Airbus Throttle Quadrant.
hey, Thoughts on the Boeing vs the XPC yoke? also, how would this fare for mostly GA flying?
I've had my thrustmaster TPR pedals for a while, and if they came with a cable to plug into this, I would have misplaced it. What kind of cable is used to plug the pedals in? (I have the boeing tca pack on order, but it hasn't shipped yet).
It's a small thing, but it sure is a shame they didn't include the approach chart clip :( I assumed it was functional, so thanks for the heads up - other videos skipped over it.
Hi, can you explain how you set the Boeing throttle to the shelf level for each number? (1,2,5,10,15,25,35,40)
top review !
18:31 “this time without the use of TO/GAaAa”
For the reverse, my solution is keep as default setting (equal to keyboard F2), and set the same button on release for cut off :)
Great review, did Thrustmaster send you this randomly? Enjoy it! It looks so cool, I’m definitely getting it.
Not sure "randomly" is the right word lol
17:29 the throttle stick 😂😂😂
Do you have any experience of Flightgear. I am wondering if the yoke would work out of the box for PC on FG.
hello i love your desk how can i get it please and can u do a video on your setup please i would love to have a setup like yours
Thank you for a nice review. Toggle/hold reverse thrust is the MSFS 2020 update 7 bug. Before it worked normally. I have to use decrease throttle instead.
Could you please measure the yoke desk clamp dimensions? What ist the maximum desk thikness it can handle? Thank you.
I am also curious on max desk thickness.
Hey, does the ThrustMaster yoke itself come with both throttles so you can control a 4 engine jet?
thanks for sharing us. Can you post the measure of the base? height, width ecc ecc
is Xplane better than MSFS? I have the same setting but I can't get the throttle quadrant to work properly!! Any suggestions?
Does the extra throttle come with it or did you Buy it separate
How high is the top of the yoke from your desk cause my monitor is realitvley low and want to know tif it will cover my screen to much?
HELP - When I create a profile the landing gear doesn’t open, just retract - HELP. How do I fix it?
Looks great except for the throttle quadrant not having flaps (detents) or TO/GA buttons. Also the reverser input just being a button instead of an axis. I'm curious how the yoke feels with other GA aircraft in MSFS? Trying to decide between this and honeycomb yoke. (Don't forget to deploy the speedbrake upon landing).
They do on the side of each throttle the black button he literally said it.
Do you get 2 throttle quadrants in 1 pack or do you have to order another?
This was an incredible review!! You didn’t really cover the buttons located below the throttle levers. Do they light up? Stay depressed when pushed or pop up? Thanks!!
Thank you! No they don't, would have been so cool.
I'm pretty disappointed with the reverse levers though. They have no detents so it's either full reverse or idle throttle. It'd be great if they could add that in the future.
this would be $3k if it were any good. I bet a huge part of the price goes to boeing licensing and not much else left for quality
@@pgreenx Exactly
@@harrisonknight2562 This is also the problem with companies like FS elite. They are distributors and Have to say nice stuff so they can make money regardless of selling dogshit to us
In MSFS you can map the reverse buttons to “Hold Reverse Throttle” then use the throttle axes to set reverse throttle power. When you flip the reverse switches back, the throttle again acts as the throttle.
I don’t think the real 737 has detents for reverse thrust
Great review! ahh comments lol 😂
Hello, the flaps don’t have points?, 1,5,10,15 etc...?, thank you.
Anyone know what program that was to assign the binds?
Which rudder are you using with it?
How did you map the flaps on MSFS? ie: 5/10/20/30
Has the reverse thrusters been fixed yet?
Hello guys! Im using mfs2020 on my xbox does anyone know how to setup the flaps on the tca quadrant? And do you guys know if i use dubble quadrant on the xbox does they both work Or only single one?
How your flaps make noise?
What rudder pedals do you use?
I have the alpha yoke which when compared to CH products is nice but it still suffers when trying to fine tune inputs while landing that I hope will not be a problem with this yoke.
Shouldn’t be a problem for you if coming from CH. This yoke has a much high resolution on Hall effect sensors, meaning it’s going to pick up very fine movements.
I think buying the yoke alone, and the airbus throttle could work the best
Is the reverse thrust fixed for FS20?
where to find the clamp for throttle?????
I wich thrustamster did the boing throttle like the airbus throttle
Can you try to connect it to Xbox series X to see if the reverse yoke it’s working properly or not in MFS2020? If not, Can you send an email to them, Or if you could contact them on their forum to request them fix this matter. I’m planning to have the Yoke as you made me hesitate once you told me about the reserve issue. Also, Do filming to record this on RUclips. Hopefully, they can fix it sooner with the incoming update. Thank you.
Can you use two throttle quadrants on xbox?
i do like the look, but common a landing gear switch like that, and i gues 15 cents extra for 3 lights that show red or green would be to expensive, i have the airbus throttle set myself and the thrust reverse works mutch better on it , so i gues using the joke with the airbuss throttle would be a better option
LINDA can map these in p3d available on AVSIM forums.
Anyone else having a problem with the throttle quadrant turn dial. As it's always in either speed, heading or altitude mode this then cause flightsim to think that button is being pressed continually and it then causes the heading, speed and altitude windows to go up and down in 10s rather than 1s
Yes exactly, I don't know how in the video are the settings, but I have only one quadrant and I can't chose to select altitude or heading or IAS, once I assigned the button them the knob will only works for heading, I havr to go to the settings each time which is not the case, the knobs is not working properly
I have one on pre-order, just wondering if I should order another boeing quadrant throttle. Or perhaps I'll just use it with the Bravo Quadrant instead.
The Bravo is great. As I was telling someone else. This Boeing quad made me want larger handles for the Bravo, which they do sell. I think I'm going to pick some up.
@@FSElite Yeah I agree, the Bravo handles are a bit too tiny. In terms of the friction, would you say it's similar to the Bravo?
My Mach/HDG/Alt rotating outer knob is very "crunchy" instead of a smooth click to each station, Is this normal? Its almost like TM doesnt have any real gamers working there, just college grads with laptops. The gear lever needed to be a three way switch. They only put three levers so you will have to buy another throttle just for the one more they could have put on the first one, lol.
13:07 reminds me off asiana flight 214
I'm asking me which to buy...
Honeycomb Alpha Bravo Yoke or the Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke?!
Try the Boeing yoke if you like airliners primarily. If you fly GA mostly and some airliners then Honeycomb.
Hello. In my area, the Turtle-Beach velocity one is 500$ whilst the Thrust-Master is 750$. Is the 250$ extra for the Thrust-Master worth it? How does the Turtle-Beach compare to the Thrust-Master?
I’ve got the velocity one, it’s great for starters but if you want to get serious get this, I’m getting this aswell as the Airbus side stick captain pack
How to install the Boeing 737-800- I can not see it in MSFS. I put it in Community folder, but that is maybe wrong. Thanks for answer.
The 737 you saw was X-Plane 11.
You can to upgrade to premium edition for MFS2020 to get it.
what desk is that?
Whatis the phone stand for?
If I buy this can I fly a Airbus and other planes with this or is this only for the Boeing
You can fly Airbus with it. I used to do that with my first yoke, before having a joystick.
How does it compare to the turtle beach velocity yoke ? Thanks !
Calum is working on a full review of that unit. So far, It's $380, The TPM and 4 arm throttle quad with trim are a nice combo if you do GA. The yoke turns 180 degrees, typical straight shaft, and I'm not sure what sensors they use.
How did you map the rotary knob for hdg. speed and alt on the throttle quadrant?
Which sim are you using? I ask because they have different names for the mappings.
@@FSElite XP-11.
is the review trust fixed yet?
Why with rudder bro?
hi is this for windows 10 or windows 11
Where to buy ?
"TM, reinvents the 1:1" "your nxt 1:1 is not a 1:1"
How do you wire the second quadrant on xbox?
USB to USB. But to Xbox one USB point only
Do you think Saitek rudder pedals could be plugged into that USB rudder input?
Good question. I will try that next I'm in the sim, and report back here.
@@FSElite sounds good. Maybe give your thoughts on a comparison with the Turtle Beach one you reviewed recently. I think that would be very helpful to us viewers trying to decide between the two systems. Just a suggestion.
@@Thrust-Set-Simulations Tested and the Saitek pedals are working off the yoke USB port. Calum is working on a full review for the VelocityOne set by Turtle Back.
The main differences I can tell so far are, price at $380, more features, on a fictional design. The TPM and 4 arm throttle quad with trim is a nice combo. The yoke turns 180 degrees, typical straight shaft, and I'm not sure what sensors they use. Reminds me of a premium modern day Saitek setup.
@@FSElite Thanks. Yeah, I saw the unboxing one. I have had a Saitek yoke and pedals for almost 10 years now, maybe longer. Thinking of upgrading. I do mostly airliner flying.
do you know if the yoke can be used as direction wheel in race games?
That should work. I used my Saitek Yoke for years on American Truck Sim and Project Cars. Just need to assign the steering axis to the aileron.
Which do you think is better this or the T flight hotas one?
If you plan on flying more stick aircraft, then the Hotas would be better for you. Otherwise this is the best airliner yoke.
FSUIPC can map these buttons
how this tablet mod called?
Guys, has your yoke a dead zone when turning sideways to the extreme? I mean, axis Y
Mine has a center deadzone and a size deadzone and I can’t figure out how to adjust it. Been looking through videos trying to figure it out
Do the back triggers work as rudders ?
If you bind them in simulator, prob yes
I do wonder if you are able to connect this to your laptop?
Yes if the laptop has modern USB it should work just fine.
What aircraft did you use for this video?
Zibo 737, TDFI 717, Asobo 787.
Do you know any wireless rudders to go with it?
Nothing that I know of yet.
Hi Great review! very precise. What we can see:
1. difficult for any player out there to manage 3 different sim perfectly
2. Nobody has the real thing for reverse thrust
I am surprise you don't use the 2 axis available on the Yoke for Flaps or even reverse thrust! you could avoid having 2 quadrants, no?
6 months late. No each quadrant has 3 levers including the flaps, so you need 4 levers for you to use 2 engines and flaps and speed brake
What plane model is this and where did you get it?
Which time stamp? Or do you mean the yoke overall?
@@FSElite 12:00 and 17:20
hi, what is this boeing? Pmdg or 737 from market?
X-Plane Zibo Mod 737-800X.
@@FSElite ok thanks 🙏