This is a standard issue Swiss military hat. Why don't we take camera back and take a closer look at these very interesting weaves and threads, which you don't see very often in modern military hats
When buying one of the swiss revolvers, always check the hammer for cracks. They break a LOT.. You dont have to shoot 7.5 swiss ord. You can use .32 S&W just fine. Greetings from a gunsmith in switzerland.
That revolver is gorgeous. I love older weapons like this. The action, loading, unloading, etc all looks so satisfying... What is the caliber? I missed it
@Heyward ShepherdHeyward, I have a Colt Police Positive Special in .32 New Police. It is (was) essentially the same round the S&W long. Colt would never give credit to Smith for any reason, hence a rebranding. I bought my ammo at various gun shows. I mostly shoot both the .32 S&W and the S&W long rounds in mine. Many I picked up on the cheap, as they were broken boxes. I do reload for mine now. A few gun shops might carry it also. Still in production. Powerwise, It wouldn't be my first choice for anything that might shoot back.
@Mr. Shlock The .22 is certainly better than nothing at all. Please understand, I do indeed like the .32 revolver. As a reloader, there is not a tremendous amount of info out there, but, there seems to be ever increasing interest. I load for the .32 S&W, the S&W long, the H&R magnum, the .327 Federal mag. and the .32-20 Winchester. In the recent past, I also loaded the 7.62x38r Nagant and the .32 ACP. But, all this being said, I understand the limitations here. Were I fore-knowingly to face a deadly scenario...I'd most likely choose something bigger, and something that offers more possibility of follow up shots...a 9mm or .38 Special. Another thought, for me anyway, is I reside in an area that is laden with both Water Moccasins and Eastern Diamondbacks ...and both of these rounds have factory shotshells easily found. YMMV
Absolutely love mine. Truly a gem. Its an 1892 mfg plastic gripped model. Its classified as an antique so theres no liscence required and I can bring it on camping trips. I load .314 diameter hollow based wadcutters in cut down .32-20 brass. Using .30 Carbine resizing and .30 Luger flare and bullet seating dies. its quite accurate, at good as my more accurate modern handguns.
As far asi know, these revolvers came out of service in 1975, the last users had been some elderly army craftsmen, auxillary policemen and railway guards.
When I was a teenager I had one with the hard rubber grips which I used to hunt rabbits with. I tinkered with it so much and finally ended up lightening the trigger pull by carefully grinding down the main spring to make it thinner and therefore lighter. I guess the military didn't want to risk having misfires due to insufficient hammer striking force hence the heavy trigger pull when that big V spring is compressed.
@GunsOfThePhoenix you can actually shoot .32 S&W Long out of the 1882 just fine. The guns are stong enough to handle modern loads. See this Bloke On The Range video: ruclips.net/video/4v0NQKoQuHA/видео.html
That's a damn clever loading mechanism, I can totally believe it could get it's market share if someone did that in a modern firearm, even making it a viable EDC since the loading mechanism can easily be made to work as a safety (if it doesn't already) so you don't need to carry on an empty chamber.
That revolver fits right into a story an officer told me during my time in the swiss army...He told me that the only reason he, and other officers who do the same work as him, had a handgun, is that in case the enemy breaks thru he has something to shoot himself with after he destroied all the important papers...So that could be a reason why so many rear line officers had one of these...
I was wondering already when you are going to do a video about the Swiss revolvers! a small sidenote: we don't actually speak German, we Speak Swiss-German of which there are several regional varieties ;)
Thank you very much for actually doing a video as i wished i love it and the ammo problem is also here in Switzerland present so you are no likely to find ammo even here where it was produced. Again thank you for your excellent work and please keep doing such great videos. Es Grüessli us de Schwiiz ; )
Very nice video. Just some more information: Original ordinance ammunition was black powder! as ordinance ammunition it was produced until 1960, precision of this gun is excellent, which means offhand at 25 m 2 2 1/2 " easily, sights where actually set for 50m , so shooting at 25 m You have to keep low. Thanks for the nice work!
Ian I really enjoy watching your vids. I've fallen on "hard times" as the saying goes basically im broke as fark! But when work comes my way brother I won't forget you I will be a patreon supporter. I've watched all your video's on my phone outsider MacDonalds for free WiFi and you've really helped take my mind off hard times. Kind regards Ben McIntyre.
Thank you very much for covering this beautiful revolver. I think i have seen one of these at my local gun club. but so far, from all the ordonanzwaffen there are i have only shot the P06 (Parabellum 1906), the P49 (SIG P210) and the P75 (SIG P220). It would be amazing if you got the chance to cover more swiss weapons. And by the way, switzerland has 4 national languages: German, French, Italian and Romansh. Thanks again for all the great videos you make. Greetings from Switzerland
To quote Harry Lime, "In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace - and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock." Well, I guess some of that cuckoo clock technology found its way into this gun.
I've found that the .32 S&W long (or short for shorter chambered recolvers) work in basically all 32 rimmed revolvers. My old 1896 S&W hand ejector police model shot the tightest groups at 10-15 yards of any handgun I have owned, its a remarkably accurate cartridge especially for its time.
Still not sure about those ballistics. Mine shoot 115gr .32-20 LFN at 920 fps over a modest charge of red dot. Not overly stout, but certainly not the pipsqueak round described.
The Portuguese army adopted in 1878 an Abadie revolver manufactured by L. Soleil et Fils in Liége, and in 1886 a second lot with minor modifications. They remained in servce until replaced by the 7.65 mm Luger in 1907-8. Using this revolver right-handed is awkward for loading as the gate and ejector are on the right like with most other contemporary revolvers. In my opinion this points to the revolver being used in the LEFT hand, with an edged weapon in the right hand. You could easily unload the cases and reload with the sword hanging from your wrist by the sword-knot. For cavalrymen the drill would differ as traditionally the reins are held in the left hand and the sabre in the right. The regulation holsters for the Portuguese Abadies were supposed to be worn on the right as shown in contemporary photographs, and are not suited to a left-hand draw, anybody got any ideas? I recommend "Revólver 9,1 mm Abadie M/1878 e M/1886" by Jaime Ferreira Regalado, editor Fronteira do Caos, 2017. Text in Portuguese, but excellent photographs and coverage.
My grandpa was an officers aide and was issued the modernized M1929 Revolver, Later in 1962 he got a K31 for railway security ( he worked for the national railway)
bloke-on-the-range (in Switzerland) has a 2017 you-tube video on the subject of ammo for these pistols. apparently the swiss are in the habit of using 32 s&w long in these pistols. much cheaper than the local 7.5 swiss ammo, loaded there at least into the 1960's and still available.
beautiful video as all your videos on you tube. However you have not mentioned that you can shoot the 1882 7.5 swiss revolvers with 32 S&W long (we use Magtech made ammunition here in Switzerland). As the pressureof the 32 S&WL is less than the original 7.5 black powder Suisse federal ammunition there is no risk for the revolver and as it is smokeless no need of the trouble for cleaning after a visit to the shooting range. Maybe you should have a try and have a video on it. This could make more popular a wonderful revolver that here in Switzerland in extremely cheap (~200 CHF for a perfect one with the original holster.). Thanks and best regards Lorenzo
Does that even have as much power as a relatively fast .22lr? The 7.5 might be double the weight but almost half the speed! And as we know doubling the speed is exponentially more effective than doubling the projectile weight!
Why hasn't somebody started a gun company issuing lovely pieces like this and the Nagant in modern calibers? Car companies do retro designs? We need to start something like Cowboy Action Shooting for turn of the century secret agents... then Pietta et al will swing into business to supply that market.
So what you are saying is this 7.5mm cartridge used in this gun is on par with a .22 caliber short.. fun to shoot but less than effective for anything but last ditch self defense.
Those are very nice. I think i saw one in person once, a bumber of years ago. They shoukd have bumped their velocity spec up to 800-850 fps, then it would be in 38 Special territory ballistically. The loading system is ingenious, and definitely quicker than other gate loaders. I would take this over a Russian Nagant anytime. Love the cap too- Swiss veraion of a garrison cap? Great video as always. Thank you
Intersting looked up the original loading was black powder! 7g 210 m/s adding to 160J :D Found some smokeless data "Waffenjournal" recommends not to use smokeless in the early guns, especially a first edition with weaker frame - only the Mod. 29.
I enjoy how you always give historical antidotes..... a lot of gun channels are way too.......rural for my tastes..... your videos are always elegant with just enough "murica" to make it fun.
Ian needs to start a new channel - Forgotten Hats.
This is a standard issue Swiss military hat. Why don't we take camera back and take a closer look at these very interesting weaves and threads, which you don't see very often in modern military hats
STOUT SHAKO! FOR TWO REFINED! :)
Team fortress 2 already has a channel
This cap goes by the nickname "couvert", which is french for "envelope"; french idioms are all around switzerland
When buying one of the swiss revolvers, always check the hammer for cracks.
They break a LOT..
You dont have to shoot 7.5 swiss ord.
You can use .32 S&W just fine.
Greetings from a gunsmith in switzerland.
can you get me one shipped to belgium from Schweiz?
They are free to possess here but i don't want to pay 1500 to buy a decent one from naturabuy in France ;)
The kind of firearm you leave beside a glass of whisky in the expectation that the chap "will do the decent thing."
@Dusty I could be wrong, but I assume he means suicide over dishonor… after partaking of the whiskey, of course.
That is truly, a neat little revolver. The trigger clicking sounds nice, almost cute sounding.
That revolver is gorgeous. I love older weapons like this. The action, loading, unloading, etc all looks so satisfying... What is the caliber? I missed it
7.5 Swiss Ordnance.
You can shoot .32 ACP S&W LONG out of them ;)
@@BL00DSETTAKINOVA .32 ACP S&W long? That cartridge would be more rare than the revolver.
@Heyward ShepherdHeyward, I have a Colt Police Positive Special in .32 New Police. It is (was) essentially the same round the S&W long. Colt would never give credit to Smith for any reason, hence a rebranding. I bought my ammo at various gun shows. I mostly shoot both the .32 S&W and the S&W long rounds in mine. Many I picked up on the cheap, as they were broken boxes. I do reload for mine now. A few gun shops might carry it also. Still in production. Powerwise, It wouldn't be my first choice for anything that might shoot back.
@Mr. Shlock The .22 is certainly better than nothing at all. Please understand, I do indeed like the .32 revolver. As a reloader, there is not a tremendous amount of info out there, but, there seems to be ever increasing interest. I load for the .32 S&W, the S&W long, the H&R magnum, the .327 Federal mag. and the .32-20 Winchester. In the recent past, I also loaded the 7.62x38r Nagant and the .32 ACP. But, all this being said, I understand the limitations here. Were I fore-knowingly to face a deadly scenario...I'd most likely choose something bigger, and something that offers more possibility of follow up shots...a 9mm or .38 Special. Another thought, for me anyway, is I reside in an area that is laden with both Water Moccasins and Eastern Diamondbacks ...and both of these rounds have factory shotshells easily found. YMMV
Absolutely love mine. Truly a gem.
Its an 1892 mfg plastic gripped model.
Its classified as an antique so theres no liscence required and I can bring it on camping trips.
I load .314 diameter hollow based wadcutters in cut down .32-20 brass. Using .30 Carbine resizing and .30 Luger flare and bullet seating dies. its quite accurate, at good as my more accurate modern handguns.
How is it to load for a right hander, looks like it would be awkward.
Swiss military hardware: It occasionally catches fire, but it keeps prefect time.
Beautiful gun and well made. You can tell just by its sound
J N Morgan its a very specific bang
Every gun makes its own tune. - Blondie.
The finish on that thing is amazing.
As far asi know, these revolvers came out of service in 1975, the last users had been some elderly army craftsmen, auxillary policemen and railway guards.
When I was a teenager I had one with the hard rubber grips which I used to hunt rabbits with. I tinkered with it so much and finally ended up lightening the trigger pull by carefully grinding down the main spring to make it thinner and therefore lighter. I guess the military didn't want to risk having misfires due to insufficient hammer striking force hence the heavy trigger pull when that big V spring is compressed.
😂lo echaste a perder
@@sargentobarakusacevedo6993 Not at all.
Bonjour, Guten Tag, Buongiorno, and Bun dì, Ian... Don't forget Switzerland has four official languages! ;-)
Grüezi ;-)
As loading gate revolvers go, that loads & unloads fairly quick. It's a beautiful gun in my opinion.
I'm not a revolver guy, but this one is pretty cool for the time period it is from.
A .357 reproduction of this would be great.
Probably not strong enough frame but it takes .32 S&W long iirc
@GunsOfThePhoenix you can actually shoot .32 S&W Long out of the 1882 just fine. The guns are stong enough to handle modern loads. See this Bloke On The Range video: ruclips.net/video/4v0NQKoQuHA/видео.html
It sure would.. of course to reproduce the old world craftsmanship it would probably cost about $4000
Hey Ian, thanks for showing us all of these awesome weapons and their histories.
man you can just hear how smooth that thing runs...beautiful!
im not so much into guns, but the mechanical details (especially of the older guns).. The way you go into detail is awesome!
6:15-6:20 So satisfying. I could watch that for hours.
That's a really nicely engineered and thought out pistol!
That's a damn clever loading mechanism, I can totally believe it could get it's market share if someone did that in a modern firearm, even making it a viable EDC since the loading mechanism can easily be made to work as a safety (if it doesn't already) so you don't need to carry on an empty chamber.
Its amazing how much thought went into designing those old revolvers. Interesting how old ideas come back later on in modern firearms.
A beautiful weapon, it is one of my favourites. I had one commisioned with custom engravings, so I can look stylish on the gun range.
If I am right the Bloke from "BotR" used the screwdriver that is integrated into the cylinder pin to unscrew the side plate.
My swiss patriot ego loves the forgotten weapons episodes abbout swiss firearms. ❤🇨🇭🇨🇭
I love the swing out side plate.
Better than a pointy stick.
Are you shure, the pointy stick is kind of good :)
Exploatores I'm a big fan of the pointy stick. We should never have taken them out of inventory.
Point-ed stick*
Kenny VanCleave depends on how big the pointy stick is
A metal pointy stick may be better.
Is it wrong to want to see this in a 2 Gun match with a schmidt-rubin?
That revolver fits right into a story an officer told me during my time in the swiss army...He told me that the only reason he, and other officers who do the same work as him, had a handgun, is that in case the enemy breaks thru he has something to shoot himself with after he destroied all the important papers...So that could be a reason why so many rear line officers had one of these...
I was wondering already when you are going to do a video about the Swiss revolvers!
a small sidenote: we don't actually speak German, we Speak Swiss-German of which there are several regional varieties ;)
Thank you very much for actually doing a video as i wished i love it and the ammo problem is also here in Switzerland present so you are no likely to find ammo even here where it was produced.
Again thank you for your excellent work and please keep doing such great videos. Es Grüessli us de Schwiiz ; )
2:17 "Less powerful than 8 mm Nambu." That's when you know a pistol cartridge is terrible, when even a Nambu has more power.
Very nice video. Just some more information: Original ordinance ammunition was black powder! as ordinance ammunition it was produced until 1960, precision of this gun is excellent, which means offhand at 25 m 2 2 1/2 " easily, sights where actually set for 50m , so shooting at 25 m You have to keep low. Thanks for the nice work!
Beautiful revolver. Thanks for the video.
That's a gorgeous wheelgun there, Ian! Thanks for the video!
That is an outstanding mechanism. Does any company do modern reproductions of this?
6:15 Game of Thrones :P
KenworthW900HG . i had no idea what you mean. then i was like. dun dun du du dun dun
Lol :v
Now I can't unhear it, lol.
i love that loading gate and i love that ejection rod. This is a nice little pistol, thanks for showing us!
I love opening sytem and easy to clean up and repair
This is mechanical genius...!
Ian I really enjoy watching your vids. I've fallen on "hard times" as the saying goes basically im broke as fark! But when work comes my way brother I won't forget you I will be a patreon supporter. I've watched all your video's on my phone outsider MacDonalds for free WiFi and you've really helped take my mind off hard times.
Kind regards Ben McIntyre.
I couldn't imagine unloading and loading this under fire.
have been watching for a while now and really enjoy your videos. i also enjoy learning about the history of the weapons as well.
Bonjour and Guten Tag! You missed italian, Buongiorno!
And Romansh, bun di!
Tommaso Morandini
and Hello, that's English.
Badolla, l'ingles l'è mia na lingua cunfederata, orca sidela
Tommaso Morandini « Allegra »?
Yeah , I believe Switzerland has three official languages. The important information is printed in German , French and Italian on my GP-11 ammo cases.
Very nice piece. Love the finish on the hammer and trigger.
Thank you very much for covering this beautiful revolver. I think i have seen one of these at my local gun club. but so far, from all the ordonanzwaffen there are i have only shot the P06 (Parabellum 1906), the P49 (SIG P210) and the P75 (SIG P220). It would be amazing if you got the chance to cover more swiss weapons.
And by the way, switzerland has 4 national languages: German, French, Italian and Romansh.
Thanks again for all the great videos you make.
Greetings from Switzerland
I love the numbered/ordered parts. More guns need that.
when you said european revolvers all look the same i honestly thought this was a bodeo m1889 when i saw the thumbnail..
bodeo m1889 doesn't have a trigger guard
true but at a quick glance especially when you go trough email notifications fast
Ikaros The round barreled model of the Bodeo, made for officers, did have a trigger guard. However, they're far less common.
nice to see it shooting great video Ian keep up the great work
thats a very cool revolver
I love this revolver I've never seen one but I'm my opinion it seems to be a very easy handling and quick loading/unloading wheel gun
So, so many cool little ideas in this. I mean, a number of them didn't work out well (stock, cartridge, is still single loading), but still.
I'm a simple Swiss guy. I see Swiss guns and I subscribe. Btw how the heck did you get a hold of the old Swiss "Schiffli" hat in the US?
A lot of surplus is imported to the US, youd be surprised the kind of stuff that ends up here.
We called it "Toblerone" for the shape.
Hated it and only used in my recruit school.
Excellent job you did! This gun looks like a dang good armadillo pistol. Modern propellant, etc.
Outstanding! My grandfather left me one of these. It’s -engraved 1939 by the original owner I think. Military serial number. Thanks for the info
i really want one of these. for some reason this revolver speaks to me
You forgot "Grüezi" ;-)
And also saddlers or blacksmiths were equipped with this revolver.... my granddaddy had one, and he was a blacksmith
What a nicely made piece!
To quote Harry Lime, "In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace - and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
Well, I guess some of that cuckoo clock technology found its way into this gun.
Except that cuckoo clocks are German and not Swiss. The Swiss don't wear Lederhosen either...
You can shoot .32 ACP S&W LONG out of them! the cartridge is a lil bit thinner but it fires perfectly
Sigh... 4am. Looks like I'm going to postpone sleeping by about 15mins.
The cartridge was also only loaded with black powder for the entirety of its service life.
You can shoot 32 S&W long in those revolvers
I've found that the .32 S&W long (or short for shorter chambered recolvers) work in basically all 32 rimmed revolvers. My old 1896 S&W hand ejector police model shot the tightest groups at 10-15 yards of any handgun I have owned, its a remarkably accurate cartridge especially for its time.
Still not sure about those ballistics. Mine shoot 115gr .32-20 LFN at 920 fps over a modest charge of red dot. Not overly stout, but certainly not the pipsqueak round described.
Well done video for a remarkable revolver. Thanks!
I don't know why, but seeing the ejector rod knock the spent casings out of the cylinder is really satisfying.
Quality like a swiss watch!
Loving the hinged side plate! 👌🏻
Wow this looks so nice to me I kind of want to get one!
This is a really nice looking revolver.
The Portuguese army adopted in 1878 an Abadie revolver manufactured by L. Soleil et Fils in Liége, and in 1886 a second lot with minor modifications. They remained in servce until replaced by the 7.65 mm Luger in 1907-8. Using this revolver right-handed is awkward for loading as the gate and ejector are on the right like with most other contemporary revolvers. In my opinion this points to the revolver being used in the LEFT hand, with an edged weapon in the right hand. You could easily unload the cases and reload with the sword hanging from your wrist by the sword-knot. For cavalrymen the drill would differ as traditionally the reins are held in the left hand and the sabre in the right. The regulation holsters for the Portuguese Abadies were supposed to be worn on the right as shown in contemporary photographs, and are not suited to a left-hand draw, anybody got any ideas? I recommend "Revólver 9,1 mm Abadie M/1878 e M/1886" by Jaime Ferreira Regalado, editor Fronteira do Caos, 2017. Text in Portuguese, but excellent photographs and coverage.
The Rast-Gasser 1898 seems remarkably similar, would it be one of the many service revolvers you said were pretty much identical?
My grandpa was an officers aide and was issued the modernized M1929 Revolver, Later in 1962 he got a K31 for railway security ( he worked for the national railway)
damn that's a nice revolver I would mind having one even though its an anemic round.
that whole system of loading and not is reallly better than anything that there is.
Just a quick question Ian, who started the trend towards fluted cylinders and why?
I like it! looks better quality than the 1895 nagant and more user friendly
bloke-on-the-range (in Switzerland) has a 2017 you-tube video on the subject of ammo for these pistols. apparently the swiss are in the habit of using 32 s&w long in these pistols. much cheaper than the local 7.5 swiss ammo, loaded there at least into the 1960's and still available.
I like it! Looks really nice
A beautifully worked murder weapon. A dainty thing.
"Stupidly hard to find ammo". That's way better than unobtainium ammo.
That revolver is in very nice condition.
Norway also used the 7.5mm cartridge in the Nagant
beautiful video as all your videos on you tube. However you have not mentioned that you can shoot the 1882 7.5 swiss revolvers with 32 S&W long (we use Magtech made ammunition here in Switzerland). As the pressureof the 32 S&WL is less than the original 7.5 black powder Suisse federal ammunition there is no risk for the revolver and as it is smokeless no need of the trouble for cleaning after a visit to the shooting range. Maybe you should have a try and have a video on it. This could make more popular a wonderful revolver that here in Switzerland in extremely cheap (~200 CHF for a perfect one with the original holster.).
Thanks and best regards Lorenzo
Does that even have as much power as a relatively fast .22lr? The 7.5 might be double the weight but almost half the speed! And as we know doubling the speed is exponentially more effective than doubling the projectile weight!
Why hasn't somebody started a gun company issuing lovely pieces like this and the Nagant in modern calibers? Car companies do retro designs? We need to start something like Cowboy Action Shooting for turn of the century secret agents... then Pietta et al will swing into business to supply that market.
Швейцария не разочаровывает) отличный ствол, очень красивый и необычный
Very cool! The internal guts look very Colt-like
Bonjour and Guten Tag
I never felt that welcome
So what you are saying is this 7.5mm cartridge used in this gun is on par with a .22 caliber short.. fun to shoot but less than effective for anything but last ditch self defense.
But last ditch self defense ws the purpose, so its not that bad...
Hurrah for the Swiss!
Those are very nice. I think i saw one in person once, a bumber of years ago. They shoukd have bumped their velocity spec up to 800-850 fps, then it would be in 38 Special territory ballistically. The loading system is ingenious, and definitely quicker than other gate loaders. I would take this over a Russian Nagant anytime. Love the cap too- Swiss veraion of a garrison cap? Great video as always. Thank you
Ian! You forgot “buongiorno” and whatever hello is in Romansh lol
Love the hat, I have one and they convert for use in winter, pulls down to cover your ears and chin! You have to love the Swiss!
Extra LETTER at the end of the serial number Ian! 😋 (I'm drunk, love forgotten weapons man it's my favorite show drunk or sober hehehe)
I don't know why but you seem like the person to me that really likes vintage british and german Motorcycles.
Intersting looked up the original loading was black powder! 7g 210 m/s adding to 160J :D Found some smokeless data "Waffenjournal" recommends not to use smokeless in the early guns, especially a first edition with weaker frame - only the Mod. 29.
nice video, but please find a bigger sock for the mic! :)
I enjoy how you always give historical antidotes..... a lot of gun channels are way too.......rural for my tastes..... your videos are always elegant with just enough "murica" to make it fun.
A cool little revolver.