@@marcelavargasavila7938 I've never had any employer double-check my undergrad degree. So I doubt anyone will check to see if someone got a master's degree online. I also don't see why it would matter.
I graduated with a master's degree in STEM a couple of years ago. Salary before master's degree: $20k a year The total cost of an online master's degree (2 years): $30k Salary now: $80k a year. Lesson learned: Get a master's degree in something marketable from the best school you can afford.
It seems like a Master's degree is the new Bachelor's degree. I wonder if the things will ever revert back to less "formal" education as people focus on technical training and learning from the wealth of free resources we have available to us nowadays.
To be honest, I don’t see there being a breaking point. Education is becoming more and more of a necessity and yes information is also more available, but I think in the eyes of employers they need objective proof that an applicant is legit and that comes with a college degree. Also it seems like in the US there are too many educated people and not enough jobs so that may be another reason that more education is becoming the norm
@@ruchirpatel1933 I think newer Millennial and Gen-Z run companies will be open to people of different educational backgrounds in the future though. And people will stop buying into the education system as it is now as they realized sometimes the student debt is not worth it. It will definitely be interesting to see.
@@AboutAysha yea I didn’t consider that. I would be excited to see that as well. Anyone can start a business and even right now we hear a lot of “he’s smart why isn’t he in an ivy” rhetoric and it’ll be interesting to see how traditional thought processes like “you need to go to college to be successful” would be challenged in the coming years.
Absolutely! I’m studying for digital marketing and Google provides the courses I need to get a job I’m using google and Udemy rn That’s all I need for an entry level position
@@AboutAysha I’ve seen a trend of people saying college is a waste here on social media It’s not worth the price tag anymore You just need the skill and with innovation we now have access to learn those skills I’ve seen many people get the certificates instead of the degree That’s what I’m doing as well My university offers a certificate “bootcamp” for my program
Couldn't have said it any better. Do it because you want to advance in your field or it could be of use to your career. Otherwise, it is 2 years of precious time and money wasted.
What if you can get a masters program for free o: ? My employer is willing to pay 100% for an MBA and I’m not sure if an MBA is what I’m interested in. I’m also not sure if I should take it on because there is a stipulation to stay with the company for a couple extra years or I will have to pay them back.
@@izzie.bellie It depends on if getting the MBA is worth being with your company for the next few years. If you find a better paying job or want to be a stay at home mom, then you'll be paying for that degree.
It depends on the type of major you're doing. For me, I worked and did an online degree in data analytics. I also obtained 3 industry certifications near the end of my master's program. 5 months after graduating, I got a job and increased my salary by 70%. I suggest get the most affordable master's degree you can and supplement it with industry recognized certifications. I only have 36K total in loans and am on track to pay it back within 2-3 years.
@@peppydude9656 Sure! Dell EMC Data Science Associate, CompTIA Project+, Six Sigma Yellow Belt. I did self-training and it all cost me less than $1,000. Now, I'd also suggest Tableau Desktop Specialist and AWS Solutions Architect Associate. Those two additional certs would cost you under $500. With all that you can easily nab a gig between $75-85K fresh out. After 2 years, you'll crack 6 figures without a doubt.
well he did say the companies had a hard time allocating him a position so he needed direction...he ain't entirely wrong though but that's some insane amount to pay for it
it is junk.. since alot of skill you need to dev with your profess and peer... other wise you just fool around people who just going talk alot busienss jargon..
It actual is if you have a good job lined up after graduation. Oddly enough, I’ve benefited financially because of the pandemic. I don’t have to pay for room and board, transportation fees, and supplies (like paper and pencil). Don’t get me wrong, tuition fees are still extremely high, but at least I got to save some money and time.
Its the best time to. There is less jobs in a recession, you could use that time to study rather than being unemployed. once you finish the economy would have recovered and maybe in a peak.
Online master's degrees are great if you are working and gaining experience at the same time. The covid forced online degree where you attend full time at home is not a great idea.
I think there needs to be a genuine look at quality of online college education. I’ve been taking online classes since Covid and I believe it’s the biggest waste of time and money, honestly feels like you’re learning nothing just checking boxes to get a piece of paper.
What money ? Laughing in European 🥶😂 I Pay 200 a semester in a top German university for my M.Sc in business administration. Maybe fix your college system, rather than bankrupting students. A recession shouldn’t decide your future.
Yeah, I came to Europe for a master's and am currently finishing another one in an American university online---I'll be heading back soon to earn a real salary again. Laughing in American and European. ;)
I think Cars are cheap in usa as compared to Germany but I like Germany education system that they provide education at very low cost if yoo know german
It's interesting to see how people generally say degrees are worthless these days, and then when you go through the job search engine you see employer's posting "Tertiary qualification in..." or "A Degree in ...". BUT you will ALSO see "At least 2 years experience in..." and the list goes on. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE, but oh wait, YOU CAN'T GET EXPERIENCE BECAUSE EMPLOYERS DON'T HIRE PEOPLE WITH NO EXPERIENCE.
Depends on the company though. Some companies value a "cheaper" workforce more than experienced. I do have a masters degree just not within the field of this company. My current employer chose to hire me even though I have no experience within my field from previous jobs or education during this pandemic. If I had experience from the industry I could've easily significantly increased my salary 2-3k.
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Very true. I already have a master's degree and had no desire to get a second one. Then I joined a company that gives its employees $6,000 per year for education. So I figured since it was free why not go back for another Masters? That's the best way to do it when someone else is paying for it.
@@devilsadvocate7059 I have a bachelors in mechanical engineering work as an automation. Engineer getting about to get masters in engineering management
Honestly spending a 100K for a graduate degree in conflict resolution is not worth it. Get a certificate in data analytics while you are there. That kind of debt is crippling and you won't have the salary to pay it off
There are very few professions that justify a 100k education. Conflict resolution is not one of them. If that’s your interest maybe be a psychologist or social worker? 🤷🏻♂️
comments like these are paternalistic and incredibly unhelpful. that person made an informed decision to apply to that program and accept admission, which should be respected. whether you think it's a good decision doesn't matter because they quite literally didn't ask you for advice. comments like these are milennials/gen z feel pressured to pursue careers they never had an interest in to begin with, instead of transforming the job market altogether.
Why are the cost for an online degree the same as someone who attends the university? If you getting your degree at home you're not using the college's resources, (room and board) you're using your own electricity, gas and wifi. I know a lot of people with degree that are not working in their chosen fields.
@@StilettoShay While that is true, that's not the entire picture. Much of it falls on two factors: the student and instructor. If both are willing participants, the location is irrelevant. However, if one party isn't committed because they only "learn/teach one way," then you're already at a disadvantage. One can learn from anywhere but to dismiss online as a lower tear way of teaching/learning shows bias towards one methodology over another.
The video stated that obtaining and maintaining the technology is really no cheaper than using physical facilities. The real issue is how colleges don’t receive half the government support they it used to. Taxpayers dollars used to actually be allocated to their education once upon a time, not just the military or to bail out multimillion dollar companies (who ultimately just gave their executives bonuses while they laid off millions of lower level employees).
I started my masters right before the pandemic hit. Mine was already an online program and the college has been providing online programs for quite sometime. But I got my new job mainly because I am in a masters program. I think if the reasons are right there is no problem with doing one, but doing one just to do it is not the way to go.
Well the idea behind getting your masters early on indicates you have a good foundational level of skills and still have your whole life ahead of you. Experience will be inevitable for those in the labor force.
"Get field experience" rather than study during a time of high unemployment? Maybe good advice for those who can afford to do unpaid internships, but ...
@@faithlesshound5621 Who said anything about unpaid internships? You're not a college student anymore, you don't even have access to unpaid internships. Those are for college students (even though it is unethical). They are telling you get a job and gain experience in that job before going to do your masters. I mean at least attempt going into the workforce, instead of operating from a position of fear that if you don't get your masters no one will want. To me it just doesn't make sense to double down in area/field that you don't have any experience working in. You might not even need it given that with enough time in the field, employers see the experience as an equivalent. Like we have to stop playing into the college pyramid scheme. I mean we keep this up by the time our kids want to go to school, phds will be the new bachelors.
Saying that the average person with a graduate degree out earns the average person with a bachelor's ignores the significant spread and overlap in the earning potential of the 2 populations. Of course, if you pursue more education with a plan and intentionality (and you have a job that might already be paying for that degree), you can be successful enough to pull up the average for the graduate degree group. If you default yourself into paying outrageous amounts of money for a piece of paper with no plan on how to convert that investment into a job, you have a high likelihood of being that part of the graduate degree population with limited economic opportunities and high debt burden.
I agree. I think those averages are misleading. A median statistic on masters degree holders’ earnings or statistics that would measure debt accumulated vs earnings would be much more informative in this situation. People with medical degrees will of course move the average way up above most earners with Masters degrees. Teachers for example require an advanced degree for the most part but are paid dirt. Then the economic factors are also not considered as wages have been consistently stagnating, cost of living has been sharply increasing (especially in large cities) and college degree cost has been consistently rising. I think these factors have to be involved when considering a masters degree. That said, some jobs are only achievable with masters degrees and many jobs that only required Bachelor degrees before now require masters as so many Bachelors are being pumped out every year. I think, the bottom line is that unless you have a concrete plan on what you’re trying to achieve, how to minimize your debt and pay it off quickly, a masters degree is just another way for universities to scam you out of your money. Unless your parents are rich. Then who cares.
$10K is my tuition too After fafsa it’s not much at all Plus I did my first two years at a two year junior college Doing it online saves me living expenses staying home But my program was online long before the pandemic
The biggest myth being peddled is that "college is a scam" and that the 'debt' is not worth it. College is absolutely worth it if you're majoring in something worthwhile (ie. something in demand). Remember, college is the fastest way to enter the middle class. The average college grad (out of ALL majors) makes 50K
Im in a completely online masters program for cyber security. Its a quarter of the price as the in person classes and right now it’s totally worth it. Same degree, same content, but online and asynchronous.
Lol I'm finishing my B.sc in Mechanical Engineering and I barely went to any presential classes, 90% of them were pointless. Studying from a book, RUclips a old student notes were the best solution for me.
@@reminadaze i think its fine. I was talking about programs that require hands on experience, like doing lab work. You cant learn that just with online classes or for example if you want to be a physician, nurse, vet, etc. Even Bill Gates said some programs will never work 100% online
I'm kind of surprised this video did not touch on the type of student that would not have the opportunity to further their education without online classes. Regardless of the pandemic or not, if I got my masters I'd need it to be almost completely online because I would also want to keep my full time job or move to a part time job where I currently live.
@@gothops154 Normally, I'd agree, but she's getting a degree in Urban Planning from Harvard. She shouldn't have a problem getting a job wherever she wants, and Harvard has some pretty generous need-based grants.
well depends on the degree. a degree in dentistry, MD, mba, etc sure are worth a lot. a masters in engineering is barely worth the cost of paper it is printed upon.
2018. My program was 2 years long and we’re only roughly 7 months into the pandemic. I think earning a Masters from a credible University is an awesome idea to help ride out the pandemic.
I’m currently in a master’s program, and it does not cost at all what the video suggests. It is around $6k annually. The tuition plus fees per semester is about $2.7k, rounding it up to $3k we have a liberal estimate of $6k annually, still ~$3k lower than the estimate the video provided ($8.9k). This program is only a 2 year program, so in the end it will cost about $10.8k. I do not live on campus and because of the pandemic my work and school are both online. I do not wish to dox myself, however the school I attend is a California State University (public school) and I am not even using any financial aid or scholarships. I am very lucky to have both my work and school be online, however I do not believe to be the only one who has this arrangement. With that said it really can be affordable, most employers will pay for your post graduate education (provided that you will continue to work for them for some set amount of time) in some sort of tuition reimbursement. This would mean you would have to upfront the initial cost, and if your grades are decent enough then they will reimburse you. Not to mention as well, but any scholastic expenses can be written off on your tax forms, and increase your tax return, money that can go back to your education (or anywhere else really). The caveat is that work and school can be incredibly exhausting, even if they are both online. Your grades will have to be higher as C’s are failing, so you must maintain at least a B- in all your classes, which is easier said than done. However, I truly believe the return on investment is the right decision if you think that this will advance your career. For myself, my BSc was in chemical engineering, and I am earning a MSc in mechanical engineering. With this degree, the required time of experience most employers expect decreases significantly, meaning that the barrier of entry to most jobs is much lower. Furthermore, as the video stated, the rate of pay increases significantly. With a BSc and 3 years of work experience, I am currently making $35/hour or $72.8k annually. With a MSc in engineering, one can expect earnings to be around $100k on the low end to even $200k depending on the job/experience. Ultimately, I would encourage anyone to pursue higher education but only on two conditions: 1. You are able to afford this without requiring (potentially additional) student loans 2. You have actual evidence that this will increase your net earnings and provide a good return on investment. If you do not fulfil either of these requirements, then I suggest reconsidering this pursuit.
Word of mouth!! You are saying it like it's been given as a piece of cake at ease. If we take an example of 10 students applying for those positions, only 1-2 would get them. So it's not a cheery on top available for everyone to get plucked by.
If there were enough positions to cover everyone that would be an ideal alternative but there are usually only a small amount of positions. Even at large research universities.
Generally speaking, I’ve always been told if you’re paying for grad school you’re doing it wrong. At least for a thesis/research based masters, potential advisors should be very transparent about how much money they have to fund you, if TA or GA ships are available, and if you will get a tuition waiver. Most programs also have financial and merit based scholarships purely for graduate students. Don’t go into a program that you haven’t thoroughly investigated to figure out how you will fund yourself- it’s hard work yes but its possible to avoid huge debt.
@@princesninah I think you’re referring to PhD programs. Those are usually paid for. I’m looking to do a masters myself and most programs I’m looking into are crazy expensive, The exception being state universities. From what I’ve seen, most state universities offer tuition wavers for TA/GA positions, however you still have to pay for the thousands of dollars of fees and books, etc. This means you’ll often still end up with at ten grand of debt. That’s better but still a lot in comparison to universities abroad. Some state schools only offer partial waivers tho and the private schools I’ve looked at (including those with giant endowments *cough* UPenn *cough*) sometimes offer no financial support at all for tuition cost upwards of 40,000 per year. I guess it might also depend on what kind of Masters you’re looking at but honestly it’s still a huge financial risk. Particularly if you still have debt from undergrad like me. Also what if you can’t do a TA/GA position for some reason or you don’t get one. Then you’re stuck with so much extra debt. Despite all of this, I’m still going to apply for a Masters for 2022 (if the world hasn’t ended by then) but I’m doing a ton of research and making a financial and job plan now to doubly make sure that it’ll pay off in the end. Also I’m a privileged middle class white dude that has parents that could financially support me, so I have time for the research, and could be supported financially while I study. Sooooo what I truly want to say is: free college for everyone to fight our unjust educational system pls!
I'll be 100% honest - these degrees are valuable if you already work FULL-TIME and have obligations that require you to not be physically present at a University. Anything in business like an MBA isn't worth it to do online since you lose ALL the networking opportunities with alumnus and your peers (which is why you pay top dollar). Computer science, engineering, design are all great programs to do online. 🌟
Agreed I’m learning Digital marketing online which is a business degree but I just need to learn the software to get an entry- level job Everyone in the field has told me a degrees not needed but mine is cheap so..
@@tracy_cakkes Tracy you're so right, digital marketing is a great field to be in and the software for SEO can be tough to master (plus certifications are important) so you could easily get away with just doing a few cheap classes and taking the tests!
In one of my Uni classes the teacher literally doesn’t teach us anything, she/ he idk , gives us RUclips videos to watch and a basic neuroscience book to read and then we take a quiz and do discussion post. Like brah Y’all raised the tuition and I’m paying for something that I could do on my own... if it wasn’t a requirement in my degree plan I would have dropped that class. I really hope the master’s level stuff at least is really helpful or you learn something you wouldn’t have of done on your own otherwise Uni really isn’t worth it.
Exactly! Oh my god that’s all we do in my classes All the information is on RUclips I’m hoping after finishing gen ed classes I’ll learn some skills for my major
Same I'm taking some classes at a institution in Texas the biggest in the state and the teaching online is trash and lecturers really dont want to help
I already have a bachelor's degree from an in-state public university, but I'm learning to code in a free online certificate course. I can't wait to start applying to jobs and getting a high salary.
@Kamilah Douglas Not trying to demotivate you but I would advise against being so optimistic. The CS field is SUPER competitive. People with degrees from top schools cant even get jobs right now. You have to work extremely hard. Don't take the easy route. Good luck
@@theendurance sir, how could you wish her the best and tell her to work hard, but then tell her not to be so optimistic? I’m sure she’s researched about the competitive CS field, no need to worry her anymore.
Financial security through diligent saving and investing should be ontop of everyone's priority and when the economy burns you out, you can pursue other options at the time of your choosing. My Son thought I was crazy to put 70% of my paycheck towards investment for 3yrs. I never see it. Today I am blessed with more than I could ask for and currently control 8 rental properties all which I acquired by doing nothing except being smart with my money! You can feel the pain of discipline early or feel the pain of regret later. I wish everyone well!
Hello Jeremy, it took a lot of discipline and sacrifice! I am with USAA and very lucky to have the bank's Fiduciary wealth advisor (Rita Drace Lind) guiding me through this journey. I see her often to discuss my financials but you can use something else. Vanguard is easy to start a account.. The best avenue is to contact your financial advisor. He/she would be a good source for a reputable advice. Rita really pushed me and made me realize what is possible when you're intentional with your finances.
That's the smartest thing to do honestly, the price of labor is tanking but the price of capital certainly isn't. The best way to move forward in the world is through property.
Hi, I agree with you. For me, pursuing a masters would be for the financial gain. Right, hopefully see in increase in wages. But for the 2 years of education, plus the tuition, I feel that I am better off buying a rental property. For example, using the $20k as a down payment and cosmetic renovations for a rental property in a good rental market would give me the income increase. Everyone has their own journey for how to obtain wealth. If a person wants to truly learn more and dig deeper into their field, then a masters is great. But again for myself, there are better tools of investments to get me to my financial goals.
I got my undergrad degree from Georgetown University. But I got my dual master degrees elsewhere. I'm astonished that it cost 80K to get a master's degree there. It's unreal
Yo I saw your video on is university worth it and that's what you said I really liked it man. You should mention that in your comment more people could go there
That’s what I’m doing! The same information I learned in college is right here Only problem with RUclips is you can’t say “I watched some videos” on your resume
I'm currently in an MBA and it goes like this >checks online lesson *sees equations* >checks homework *completely different* >RUclips search how to ACTUALLY do the homework
@@RoyKoopaling That was my experience too. I was really surprised the video didn't touch on that aspect and just focused only on the price aspect. But more than anything, if you are somebody who cannot become an autodidact then online education is not for you, bachelors or masters. Because you're essentially teaching yourself the materials and the school is just charging that ridiculous tuition fee to grade your work.
@@youandme9569 Worse, they're charging that fee to CERTIFY your work. And remember, US institutions don't believe in external examiners to guarantee quality.
I’ll have to disagree with you on this. I’ve learned more about team building and leadership in the military, which I’ve applied to manufacturing than I have in my online classes. There is good material in my courses, but it’s given me definitions and reasons for tools I’ve used naturally.
The military and college are what you make of it. I’m doing both. If you’re smart about both, they’ll contribute a ton and set you up for life, but if you party away your life in college or go through the motions without developing yourself in the military, or at stupid with your benefits and finances, then you won’t get much out of it.
But the military gives you 4 years of free college AND monthly housing allowance while you’re in school which is huge. I pocket about $700 every month after rent is paid which I can use on gas/groceries/insurance payments/etc while my classmates have no money to spend whatsoever.
Master’s tuition is usually free at public accredited universities in Germany and Norway, even for US students - including for online programs. And the fees are relatively modest in other European countries (usually lower than $800 for the total program cost). Several of my Class of 2020 peers and I are looking at programs in Europe for the affordability, but also to get international experience and potentially work abroad afterwards. Unless I had the chance to study at a top-tier school in the US (with a high return on investment), the costs simply aren’t justified for me. I didn’t think I would go for a Master’s until 2-3 years after graduation but most entry-level jobs in big cities require a master’s degree these days in order to be taken seriously.
It also depends on your area of study. Several degrees from Europe require MULTIPLE hoops to jump through to be credentialed in the United States. Two of the highest median earners included: Law (specifically J.D.) and M.D.s Many mental health professions also have to be credentialed in the state they practice in which is harder to do with degrees from foreign universities. So if moving and practicing there, that works, otherwise you run the risk of wasting your time which is much more valuable than your money.
There is a difference between an online degree designed to be online versus one being forced to suddenly be online. I am pursuing a second master's online in a degree designed to be online and I think it works really great.
As a non-American, it is really hard for me to understand why someone chooses to go 100k in debt for a degree he may not use it after all! He probably didn't even join the workforce to know how hard it'd be to pay this debt for something that could be useless. I'd expect for someone who has already a degree to be smarter!
There’s this myth that college instantly leads to a reliable high paying career. Sure, that’s true if your field is medical, finance, or tech-but conflict resolution? This students going to have a bad wake up call when they leave campus.
@@joeyhyland medical is the only field with real job security, finance is actually very flimsy just like liberal arts is, maybe a bit better but still terrible.
@@Pclub4ever "Maybe you're just bipolar" perfectly illustrates the pointlessness of so much internet commenting: anonymous abuse delivered in your underpants from the security of your mother's basement.
Fyi, all the things that your professors teach you in class have been regurgitated from your textbook, a textbook that is available online to buy (or free if you're smart enough to figure out how).
A degree to help someone "gain direction". At the Masters level you had better already HAVE direction. Masters are meant as specialization degrees, not as generalist degrees. You want a generalist degree in a discipline, get a Bachelors. You want a specialization degree, Masters. Terminal/Business degree? That's an MBA. Research degree? PhD. But getting a degree to help you figure out what you want to do...that is completely stupid and a waste and the same people who typically do that turn around and cry because they have X degree in a subject that doesn't make any money and wonder why they don't have a job. I worked at Target once with a bright girl who had a 3.7 GPA in her Bachelors in Archeology...what could she do with it? Well, she was on year 3 at Target in an hourly position because there are absolutely no jobs for Archeology majors unless you go overseas and have a minimum of a Masters AND be en-route to a PhD.
Jesus thats brutal that girls dreams got crushed... reminds me of my ex, she had a bachelors in History and 2 associates degrees for knowing korean and farsi (she also knew spanish and english) and she was actually completely fluent in all 4 languages (it wasnt like half baked broken knowledge). This girl was working as a dental assistant because she could only get a job in a museum as a curator and even that was hard to come by and very low paying (hourly). So sad.
I started my masters of science in user experience online this fall and honestly I feel it’s gonna get me far. I already have a software engineering degree but I did want to explore more of the business aspect of user research . I’m also gonna be doing my thesis at a lab that specializes in data collection of user data and the lab partners with company sponsors that students can write their thesis in so this degree will also make me develop further technical skills in data research.
The short answer is no. The long answer is no with an asterisk*, most people should not be getting one anyway because of the cost and the fact you can do just fine in numerous ways and little debt you have down on you, the more quickly and with the agility you can move about to make smart financial moves. Lawers, doctors, data scientists, and software engineers will always be in demand but just because you heard your parents and all of your buddies say it was a good idea doesn't mean that is the path for you.
Omfg no that’s not true. The whole STEM thing is a myth. Trust me I know I have 3 degrees in cs, and specialize in oncology. Supposed one of the most lucrative fields in medicine and not using any of my degrees. It’s a scam. Don’t fall for it.
In addition becoming a lawyer today is definitely not worth it. The saturation level is off the charts. I think every 1 American can have 2 lawyers assigned to them...
If you're paying tons for a master's degree, you're doing it WRONG. I got my Msc in a specialized computational field at a great public university. I worked hard and got a research assistantship that covered the tuition of 2/3 of the semesters and also got paid a $1,000/month stipend that mostly paid me back for the first semester that I paid out of pocket for. My total out of pocket cost was $3,000 and I got a job right out of graduation making $80k/year.
@@erhunolaye4640 if youre studying statistics, com sci, engineering etc most grad programs should have funding for you (all PhDs and a lot of masters). In fact, during undergrad, my profs told me to RUN AWAY from any grad program that didn't offer funding
Don't forget about the people who are earning masters for a career change. They may need to do this because their undergrad degree is completely different.
Probably not. But it’s going to depend on your major. I would only do it if my company pays for it or It will make me more Money (significantly more money)
Online class is “busy work”. Group projects don’t exist, there is no sense of interaction, and you basically just sit there and look at a PowerPoint presentation.
Try to learn from it. Have been a few remote positions and not everyone able to do remote work. Ex, unable to do work without direct supervision, don't have enough discipline to work at home etc. If you can work it out, it can be a valuable skill in the future as it associates with time management skill, communication skill, self-discipline, etc.
I'm getting a masters in cybersecurity. The kicker is MOST employers want a significant amount of experience in this field, despite the large need for CS workers
I'm in the same boat. Get a general IT job as soon as you can (if you haven't already), and then transition to cybersecurity once you have 5 years of experience in the computer industry. Also, get your Security+ CE certification and start studying for your CISSP exam.
Georgia Tech's Online Masters programs are nothing like the video shows. It's high quality, makes use of multiple LMS platforms and has significant amounts of collaboration built-in. As a USC grad and current Georgia Tech M.S. student, I feel the quality is equal and I've had the privilege of learning from professors in the tech industry such as Sebastian Thrun (Waymo @ Google) and Ayana Howard (NASA robotics).
Yeah, I notice how they skipped over asking the Georgia Tech student how her experience was. The media will always spin the most controversial narrative over the actual truth. These articles are basically clickbait. CNBC makes money from the ad rev, they don't care about how accurate it is, just that it's eye-catching enough.
The big question is if a masters degree in general is a returned investment in your particular field of study. More and more fields don’t “need” a degree to be successful. Also there is a higher demand for trade jobs and skilled laborers. Then look into how you learn as a student. If you thrive on a online platform go for an online program. If you absolutely need the physical learning environment, maybe wait it out until you can get to a physical class. It’s not a one size fits all answer.
Degrees are generally not worth the money and by doing then online you lose the best part! The interaction with your fellow students, getting to know interesting new people and University vibe...
That's an idealized view of the college experience. Maybe that's real in some places. But once you're over 30, have both job and life experience and you're trying to get that education merit raise or promotion, the last thing you want to do is spend hours on a campus dealing with a bunch of kids who barely care and spending weeks at a time listening to theory about things you've already done for real. Btw, online classes do have interaction with other classmates. Some schools have both message boards and video class setups. The no-interaction thing is an antiquated concern.
Isn't the best answer it depends? Cost, networking, etc or whether your dream job requires an actual masters? I'm doing the 2nd half of my degree online bc of Covid but without one, no career opportunities period. That being said for most MA degrees you can learn a chunk of the material online....
Depends on the program and why you think you’ll need one for the future. If you’re looking for more money within your career, you’re more likely to get a bigger base salary if you churn jobs every 2-3 years, rather than hope for a 10% raise at that same company.
@@HaiLeQuang that's none of her business...if your management allows it that's all that matters...meanwhile you get your skill set up by moving around...who wants to stay in the same position forever?
@@HaiLeQuang Maybe something like, at the time I was trying to gain insight on how my skill set could be an asset to each company while also trying my hand in several different roles further challenge myself so that I can prove to be more of an asset to the company???? How does that sound???
Get your employers to foot the bill if they really want you to have a masters degree. They’re the ones who want you to have it. Definitely don’t go into debt for a degree that won’t guarantee you a job anymore than a bachelor would.
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taurence doesn't need $80k of debt to learn to resolve conflicts, he has the softest, most feminine, calming voice that nobody would dare to shout back at him.
For me, going back to university for masters is not just for knowledge but the experience especially the cultural and social differences. Why online degree is a no no. I already take a lot of certification courses online.
in 5-10 years, people would not consider going to colleges and even take the student loan for attending the college. Educational business just got disrupted
Thank God. A few years ago, I was accepted into a private college to earn a Master's in Psychology. I calculated the degree would have been upwards of $100,000. I declined getting my Masters. While I'm still a bit unsure of the direction I'm going in, I do not regret turning down that school. I worked for a total of about 4 years in higher education, and I've realized more and more just how much of a cash grab it all is. Now with the pandemic, people are realizing they're paying an astronomical amount of money for a piece of paper when you can learn everything online. I'm *thrilled* to see where this new direction might be going toward. I hope we *do* change our higher education institutions. They're hundreds of years old. What business lasts for hundreds of years without changing their practices? Let's hope for more affordable options with the intention that education should be for all.
It's only partly about the knowledge. It's just as much about the networking, the project/internship opportunities, and the credential - all of which gain you a lot more access than knowledge alone.
Actually, the online learning model is more efficient and flexible compared with the traditional way, for example, once I wake up, I can open my compmuter to start the lecture without catching the bus to the campus, and you also have high quality recording, which you can revise again and again if you don't catch the points in class or you miss the lecture, This means that you can arrange your time more flexibly. I usually revise the coure content after I have reviewed the lecture note in details, it is very helpful. So in terms of learning knowledge itself, there is nothing wrong even better, But in terms of social life and meeting the leactuers and students, this is really bad. For a master course, you even don't have any chance to meet your cohort only by watching their names on the virtual meetings. And you don't have too many friends to talk with if your master unversity is at a new country. That is very suffering.
Same here, union job. Software dev, going for my 2nd Masters for the credential to advance. But I'm still paying off my 1st Masters that I got at the start of the last recession (I was already in grad school when it hit - no point leaving then).
I went to an online-based master program. I think, overall, the program material is definitely accessible online but I did enjoy collaborating with my peers. I think that environment is what made my Masters Program rewarding.
@Alishbah Shahid I have to double check but I think it's just say my degree and not being online or not. Most interviewers will assume it's in person from my experience.
If you want to teach college, you'll either need the PhD or 20+ yrs experience in the field, or both. Unless it's a smaller community college, or rural K-12 school, they might let you teach with just the Masters.
@@kizarumelon2477 You’re wrong!! There’s ways he can leverage his education and previous projects, internships or previous jobs as EXPERIENCE. Plus, all he needs is an entry level position to get his foot in. STEM programs like CS people make 6-figures salaries PLUS BONUSES after a few years maybe even less that 2 years if lucky.
@@Melanated483 lmfao i interview people all the time and i talk from experience from being in the dev market for over 20 years. what is ur opinion based off of?.
I’m in graduate school studying leadership online for free through my job. Definitely worth it. Deferring loans and free education while I’m already working full time and pursuing my passion. Unless you can do it like this (or another finesse), please, DONT DO IT
I received a master's degree in Teaching English as a Second Language online. As an expat, the M.A. helped me immensely. I went from working at soul-crushing English "academies" with pitiful pay to a legitimate international school. I can confidently say that I more than doubled my salary AND I have accommodations from the school (housing stipend, relocation stipend, etc).
Hello Darren, I am also a TESOL certified ESL teacher who seeks to boost his career. Could you share which university did you study and which masters did you get?
Some schools also do 5 year programs when you’re an undergrad with the fifth year being the year you get your masters. Oftentimes they’ll extend your scholarships over that extra year too.
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I definitely don’t think graduate degrees r worth it unless your going for a specific field that requires it and you better be sure that that field is what you want to do before signing for any loans
RUclips, Google, and Amazon is helping improving there life.? After having the knowledge., you invest in the market by working and help it grow. I have an associate degree in account and a nursing degree. Yet! When I connect on RUclips, or Amazon and google., I learn so much more then from the learning I have took in college and universities. People have life and responsibilities. Seating in college for years after years just to make a living and yet still can’t find a job ended to you after graduation is ridiculous. Colleges and Universities isn’t a bad way to learn but with this video promoting that it should be the only way in 2020 is ridiculous.
You can teach yourself to code for free and then make 100k+ . This is a no brainer. Pursue your dreams but learn to code as a backup plan when things don't go your way.
you can practically learn everything for free or even at 1/10th the cost of a masters degree. One misses out on the brand name that's all but the industry is moving towards hiring skill oriented people than fancy degree holders
You wont get the same structure and guidance if you learn by yourself. Most people dont have the motivation because there is no pressure. With school, you HAVE to do you assignments and finish your work.
Checking the requirements of the job you want to have will give you an idea if u need masters or not. A lot of professions though value more hands on training. Also some companies when you get hired will even pay for your masters for professional development. You should have a clear career path in mind.
I graduated with my master's degree in 2007. Tuition was $170 per credit hour. The program was 33 hours long. Total tuition price $5,610. I purchased my books via eBay! I was working full time and was able to pay as I go with no student loan. I taught a handful of adjunct college courses and easy made this back. Today, the total tuition is the price of a luxury vehicle or a small home in some places! This is not good, especially with tools like EdX, Coursera and of course RUclips freely available. I see why many are predicting a bubble burst in the higher education industry.
From my experience in the IT field for +15 years, I think technical and soft skills are more important than degrees...Get certified through Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Cisco, etc. depending on your specialty...My graduate degree in engineering helped me get hired though...
The degree helps you obtain promotions, although I second the call for soft skills. Too few programs, and no bootcamps, emphasize writing, working in teams, or evaluating the real-world factors along with the technical ones.
I’ve had friends regret getting their MBA they said learning about the theory of starting a business is a waste of time when they should have just actually started a business. Some of the entrepreneurship professors have never started a business in their life That’s why billionaires never have a college degree, they just did it and learned through trial and error
Before you guys keep reading the comments, know this. Online Bootcamp coders are not considered by myself or anyone who has hired me to be on par with experience and/or a bachelors. If anything, if you cannot learn on your own, I really don't want you. It takes sweat and persistence to make it in life. Free online bootcamps are nice but they are there to accelerate learning among the experienced. The attitude here is a bit disgusting. I graduated in 2011 with a liberal arts degree but went right into interning as a coder and earning a CS degree [I was lucky to have college nearly entirely paid for because my uni thought I was worth a forgiven scholarship]. I ended up with a math and cs degree, well completing CS next year. I made it to Data architect and lead on a few corporate projects before that earning good money but that was not the point. I now run 2 projects through my own company, am the lead backend engineer for a startup, and technical write. I WILL NOT HIRE YOU IF YOU ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY. That is where you go wrong. It is also why I ignore most business school degrees who act like they know math and analytics. News flash, you don't even know as much as a math major unless you pick up the credits and go to a STEM related masters program. Finally, IT recruiters are notoriously horrible. They will give anyone a shot because if even one person makes it, they earn a commission equal to 1-2 years of your pay.
It certainly depends on the industry and concentration. For industries such as accounting and Finance it’s certainly beneficial. My wife saw a 35k salary increase getting her master’s in accounting
I earned an MBA from an AASCB accredited state university (Lamar U) online for less than 13K. I worked full-time while earning it. Learned a ton, expanded my network, and am now highly-qualified for an upcoming promotion. No it's not HBS, for it worked out great for me!
I did my master’s online. It taught me that I can teach myself.
How was it like? How did your employer viewed it?
Masters in what field and where???
@@marcelavargasavila7938 I've never had any employer double-check my undergrad degree. So I doubt anyone will check to see if someone got a master's degree online. I also don't see why it would matter.
@@ahndrayuh very interesting.....hmm
@@ahndrayuh true
I mean I learned more on RUclips than from the University.
Amen to that!
Same...
Same here You can learn anything online for little to no price at all
One day student will have diplomas from RUclips university
Facts 😩🤷🏽♀️I just rewired a lamp thanks to RUclips University
I graduated with a master's degree in STEM a couple of years ago.
Salary before master's degree: $20k a year
The total cost of an online master's degree (2 years): $30k
Salary now: $80k a year.
Lesson learned: Get a master's degree in something marketable from the best school you can afford.
What degree did you get?
Same boat I’m in basically
@@Paramoristic An IT degree
Bro where are you from ?
@@Paramoristic He received his Master in STEM. Cant you read. Master of STEM. Its a very popular option we are told.
It seems like a Master's degree is the new Bachelor's degree. I wonder if the things will ever revert back to less "formal" education as people focus on technical training and learning from the wealth of free resources we have available to us nowadays.
To be honest, I don’t see there being a breaking point. Education is becoming more and more of a necessity and yes information is also more available, but I think in the eyes of employers they need objective proof that an applicant is legit and that comes with a college degree.
Also it seems like in the US there are too many educated people and not enough jobs so that may be another reason that more education is becoming the norm
@@ruchirpatel1933 I think newer Millennial and Gen-Z run companies will be open to people of different educational backgrounds in the future though. And people will stop buying into the education system as it is now as they realized sometimes the student debt is not worth it. It will definitely be interesting to see.
@@AboutAysha yea I didn’t consider that. I would be excited to see that as well. Anyone can start a business and even right now we hear a lot of “he’s smart why isn’t he in an ivy” rhetoric and it’ll be interesting to see how traditional thought processes like “you need to go to college to be successful” would be challenged in the coming years.
Absolutely! I’m studying for digital marketing and Google provides the courses I need to get a job I’m using google and Udemy rn That’s all I need for an entry level position
@@AboutAysha I’ve seen a trend of people saying college is a waste here on social media It’s not worth the price tag anymore You just need the skill and with innovation we now have access to learn those skills I’ve seen many people get the certificates instead of the degree That’s what I’m doing as well My university offers a certificate “bootcamp” for my program
Please don't get a masters just to get a masters. You'll be just as qualified as you were before the program with more debt.
Couldn't have said it any better. Do it because you want to advance in your field or it could be of use to your career. Otherwise, it is 2 years of precious time and money wasted.
What if you can get a masters program for free o: ? My employer is willing to pay 100% for an MBA and I’m not sure if an MBA is what I’m interested in. I’m also not sure if I should take it on because there is a stipulation to stay with the company for a couple extra years or I will have to pay them back.
@@izzie.bellie It depends on if getting the MBA is worth being with your company for the next few years. If you find a better paying job or want to be a stay at home mom, then you'll be paying for that degree.
@@izzie.bellie If your boss is 100% paying for it and you don’t hate your job then sure go for it.
Couldn’t agree more
It depends on the type of major you're doing. For me, I worked and did an online degree in data analytics. I also obtained 3 industry certifications near the end of my master's program. 5 months after graduating, I got a job and increased my salary by 70%. I suggest get the most affordable master's degree you can and supplement it with industry recognized certifications. I only have 36K total in loans and am on track to pay it back within 2-3 years.
That’s awesome! I’ll probably have less than $10,000 when I graduate
@@tracy_cakkes That's what I'm talking about!!
may i know which industry certifications did you obtained?
@@peppydude9656 Sure! Dell EMC Data Science Associate, CompTIA Project+, Six Sigma Yellow Belt. I did self-training and it all cost me less than $1,000. Now, I'd also suggest Tableau Desktop Specialist and AWS Solutions Architect Associate. Those two additional certs would cost you under $500. With all that you can easily nab a gig between $75-85K fresh out. After 2 years, you'll crack 6 figures without a doubt.
well congrats Lance and thank you!
Im tryna figure out why Taurence is paying $80k/yr for a degree in conflict resolution.
well he did say the companies had a hard time allocating him a position so he needed direction...he ain't entirely wrong though but that's some insane amount to pay for it
Probably because he wants to work in the humanitarian sector
He wants to be in deep debt, then cry about it
you might get conflicting answers
@@007akshays solid take
Now is NOT a good time to get in debt. Save your money.
I've been rejecting all the Masters program offers lol
it is junk.. since alot of skill you need to dev with your profess and peer... other wise you just fool around people who just going talk alot busienss jargon..
@@campkira not all Masters are created equal
It actual is if you have a good job lined up after graduation. Oddly enough, I’ve benefited financially because of the pandemic. I don’t have to pay for room and board, transportation fees, and supplies (like paper and pencil). Don’t get me wrong, tuition fees are still extremely high, but at least I got to save some money and time.
Its the best time to. There is less jobs in a recession, you could use that time to study rather than being unemployed. once you finish the economy would have recovered and maybe in a peak.
Online master's degrees are great if you are working and gaining experience at the same time. The covid forced online degree where you attend full time at home is not a great idea.
And they did not even cut the tuition fee. If you have to learn online the fee should be less than if you attend the lecture in person.
Mine is online but I have over $2000 clinical hours in a hospital so for me it’s still valuable
@@ebonystone8890 Professors still have to be paid though. Online or not
junk degree... master mean you had to be good in what you do not just go online to get degree...
I think there needs to be a genuine look at quality of online college education. I’ve been taking online classes since Covid and I believe it’s the biggest waste of time and money, honestly feels like you’re learning nothing just checking boxes to get a piece of paper.
What money ? Laughing in European 🥶😂 I Pay 200 a semester in a top German university for my M.Sc in business administration. Maybe fix your college system, rather than bankrupting students. A recession shouldn’t decide your future.
therefore you gotta pay 65% taxes afterwards
And I'm considering getting my masters in the Netherlands in the future because it's much cheaper there XD If everything goes according to plan
Yeah, I came to Europe for a master's and am currently finishing another one in an American university online---I'll be heading back soon to earn a real salary again. Laughing in American and European. ;)
@Nuby Unless you are basically a millionaire you'd never need to do that. And if you are that rich you can afford it. 😂
I think Cars are cheap in usa as compared to Germany but I like Germany education system that they provide education at very low cost if yoo know german
Colleges are getting the wake-up call they needed. Adapt to the times or get left behind.
100% agree
Wdym, demand is higher than ever. They've got no incentive to change.
It's interesting to see how people generally say degrees are worthless these days, and then when you go through the job search engine you see employer's posting "Tertiary qualification in..." or "A Degree in ...". BUT you will ALSO see "At least 2 years experience in..." and the list goes on.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE, but oh wait, YOU CAN'T GET EXPERIENCE BECAUSE EMPLOYERS DON'T HIRE PEOPLE WITH NO EXPERIENCE.
THE ACCURACY 😤😭😭
Thank you!
Depends on the company though. Some companies value a "cheaper" workforce more than experienced. I do have a masters degree just not within the field of this company. My current employer chose to hire me even though I have no experience within my field from previous jobs or education during this pandemic. If I had experience from the industry I could've easily significantly increased my salary 2-3k.
Internships!! Undergrads don’t realize that the competition starts the summer of their Freshmen year. Just doing your coursework isn’t good enough.
@@totallytalia its hard do get internships in corona , I have been rejected 3 times and didn't get a response yet from 2 more
Absolutley!!!!!....... when your company and military pay for it 😂
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Very true. I already have a master's degree and had no desire to get a second one. Then I joined a company that gives its employees $6,000 per year for education. So I figured since it was free why not go back for another Masters? That's the best way to do it when someone else is paying for it.
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The VA Bill.
@@devilsadvocate7059 I have a bachelors in mechanical engineering work as an automation. Engineer getting about to get masters in engineering management
Honestly spending a 100K for a graduate degree in conflict resolution is not worth it. Get a certificate in data analytics while you are there. That kind of debt is crippling and you won't have the salary to pay it off
There are very few professions that justify a 100k education. Conflict resolution is not one of them. If that’s your interest maybe be a psychologist or social worker? 🤷🏻♂️
comments like these are paternalistic and incredibly unhelpful. that person made an informed decision to apply to that program and accept admission, which should be respected. whether you think it's a good decision doesn't matter because they quite literally didn't ask you for advice.
comments like these are milennials/gen z feel pressured to pursue careers they never had an interest in to begin with, instead of transforming the job market altogether.
@@ipsilonia No, he’s young and dumb. College is an investment, there should be return $$$.
@@ipsilonia stfu
@@FabioTheGreat yes, agreed.
Why are the cost for an online degree the same as someone who attends the university? If you getting your degree at home you're not using the college's resources, (room and board) you're using your own electricity, gas and wifi. I know a lot of people with degree that are not working in their chosen fields.
Did you pay attention to the video or just read the headline?
...they're paying for the "prestige" behind the name--Georgetown.
@@StilettoShay While that is true, that's not the entire picture. Much of it falls on two factors: the student and instructor. If both are willing participants, the location is irrelevant. However, if one party isn't committed because they only "learn/teach one way," then you're already at a disadvantage. One can learn from anywhere but to dismiss online as a lower tear way of teaching/learning shows bias towards one methodology over another.
The video stated that obtaining and maintaining the technology is really no cheaper than using physical facilities. The real issue is how colleges don’t receive half the government support they it used to. Taxpayers dollars used to actually be allocated to their education once upon a time, not just the military or to bail out multimillion dollar companies (who ultimately just gave their executives bonuses while they laid off millions of lower level employees).
I think if you're studying online, your work is still to be marked by a tutor who gets paid for it.
way too many bachelor degrees.... not a lot of jobs which is why ppl go for their masters
I started my masters right before the pandemic hit. Mine was already an online program and the college has been providing online programs for quite sometime. But I got my new job mainly because I am in a masters program. I think if the reasons are right there is no problem with doing one, but doing one just to do it is not the way to go.
Same employers only were interested after I said I was a graduate student
Get field experience first. What the point of masters with 0 experience? Especially now with all these experienced people laid off.
Well the idea behind getting your masters early on indicates you have a good foundational level of skills and still have your whole life ahead of you. Experience will be inevitable for those in the labor force.
Experienced people laid off ???
"Get field experience" rather than study during a time of high unemployment? Maybe good advice for those who can afford to do unpaid internships, but ...
@@faithlesshound5621 Who said anything about unpaid internships? You're not a college student anymore, you don't even have access to unpaid internships. Those are for college students (even though it is unethical). They are telling you get a job and gain experience in that job before going to do your masters. I mean at least attempt going into the workforce, instead of operating from a position of fear that if you don't get your masters no one will want. To me it just doesn't make sense to double down in area/field that you don't have any experience working in. You might not even need it given that with enough time in the field, employers see the experience as an equivalent. Like we have to stop playing into the college pyramid scheme. I mean we keep this up by the time our kids want to go to school, phds will be the new bachelors.
@@birdiewolf3497 It's news to me that unpaid internships are only for current college students.
I earned both my MBA and doctorate online. Both have helped me exponentially in my career. In addition, My knowledge grew tremendously.
Name of uni plz
@@iqrariaz94 I hate that so many don't give the name of their school.
Saying that the average person with a graduate degree out earns the average person with a bachelor's ignores the significant spread and overlap in the earning potential of the 2 populations. Of course, if you pursue more education with a plan and intentionality (and you have a job that might already be paying for that degree), you can be successful enough to pull up the average for the graduate degree group. If you default yourself into paying outrageous amounts of money for a piece of paper with no plan on how to convert that investment into a job, you have a high likelihood of being that part of the graduate degree population with limited economic opportunities and high debt burden.
well said
I agree. I think those averages are misleading. A median statistic on masters degree holders’ earnings or statistics that would measure debt accumulated vs earnings would be much more informative in this situation. People with medical degrees will of course move the average way up above most earners with Masters degrees. Teachers for example require an advanced degree for the most part but are paid dirt. Then the economic factors are also not considered as wages have been consistently stagnating, cost of living has been sharply increasing (especially in large cities) and college degree cost has been consistently rising. I think these factors have to be involved when considering a masters degree. That said, some jobs are only achievable with masters degrees and many jobs that only required Bachelor degrees before now require masters as so many Bachelors are being pumped out every year.
I think, the bottom line is that unless you have a concrete plan on what you’re trying to achieve, how to minimize your debt and pay it off quickly, a masters degree is just another way for universities to scam you out of your money.
Unless your parents are rich. Then who cares.
Degrees are worth it for select majors. Georgia Tech's online master's for CS or Analytics is only $10k total.
Yep major matters most.
Yep, the OMSCS (Computer Science) is equivalent to the on-campus degree and costs, at most, $8410 (assuming no classes are dropped).
Yeah it depends on what you are getting a degree in and which online college or university
$10K is my tuition too After fafsa it’s not much at all Plus I did my first two years at a two year junior college Doing it online saves me living expenses staying home But my program was online long before the pandemic
The biggest myth being peddled is that "college is a scam" and that the 'debt' is not worth it. College is absolutely worth it if you're majoring in something worthwhile (ie. something in demand). Remember, college is the fastest way to enter the middle class. The average college grad (out of ALL majors) makes 50K
I'm an American paying $2k total for a two year Master's in Analytics in Switzerland. For me, worth it.
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@@pamelapadilla1928 University of Geneva. Most of their Master's programs are $500 per semester
@Nixon E Here in Switzerland!
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@@piusaeneas92 How much does it cost to live in Switzerland?
Im in a completely online masters program for cyber security. Its a quarter of the price as the in person classes and right now it’s totally worth it. Same degree, same content, but online and asynchronous.
Any idea about online batchelors degree in CS or cyber security?
What u think about Information system/tech? Is that a good major?
Secure set?
@jacob can I please get the link of your program?
My online program is 3x as expensive in comparison to in person :/
im a chemist so its an absolute NO for me. Any graduate program related to STEM should be taken in person
what about computer science?
Lol I'm finishing my B.sc in Mechanical Engineering and I barely went to any presential classes, 90% of them were pointless. Studying from a book, RUclips a old student notes were the best solution for me.
@@reminadaze i think its fine. I was talking about programs that require hands on experience, like doing lab work. You cant learn that just with online classes or for example if you want to be a physician, nurse, vet, etc. Even Bill Gates said some programs will never work 100% online
@@trembling3674 nope
@@philipe1502 Where did you study ?
I'm kind of surprised this video did not touch on the type of student that would not have the opportunity to further their education without online classes. Regardless of the pandemic or not, if I got my masters I'd need it to be almost completely online because I would also want to keep my full time job or move to a part time job where I currently live.
This exactly!! I’m a rural living & online uni student. I have a family farm and still need a way to get the education I need to do what I want.
Taurence is getting his masters in conflict resolution and is paying 80k/year for it. He’s screwed
on the fast track to be calling dave ramsey
Conflict resolution??? O.o
This other lady is getting a masters in urban planning lol she will never make that money back working in urban planning
...false; he can take that and become CHRO anywhere.
@@gothops154 Normally, I'd agree, but she's getting a degree in Urban Planning from Harvard. She shouldn't have a problem getting a job wherever she wants, and Harvard has some pretty generous need-based grants.
Every online master’s feels like a degree mill. No reason it should be that price if you’re not getting hands on experience.
Every one? You have no idea what you’re talking about. Mine for one was a ton of work and worth every penny.
well depends on the degree. a degree in dentistry, MD, mba, etc sure are worth a lot. a masters in engineering is barely worth the cost of paper it is printed upon.
@@gregoryvierra6114 Did you get yours during the pandemic?
2018. My program was 2 years long and we’re only roughly 7 months into the pandemic. I think earning a Masters from a credible University is an awesome idea to help ride out the pandemic.
@@gregoryvierra6114 what are you taking?
I’m currently in a master’s program, and it does not cost at all what the video suggests. It is around $6k annually. The tuition plus fees per semester is about $2.7k, rounding it up to $3k we have a liberal estimate of $6k annually, still ~$3k lower than the estimate the video provided ($8.9k). This program is only a 2 year program, so in the end it will cost about $10.8k.
I do not live on campus and because of the pandemic my work and school are both online.
I do not wish to dox myself, however the school I attend is a California State University (public school) and I am not even using any financial aid or scholarships. I am very lucky to have both my work and school be online, however I do not believe to be the only one who has this arrangement.
With that said it really can be affordable, most employers will pay for your post graduate education (provided that you will continue to work for them for some set amount of time) in some sort of tuition reimbursement. This would mean you would have to upfront the initial cost, and if your grades are decent enough then they will reimburse you.
Not to mention as well, but any scholastic expenses can be written off on your tax forms, and increase your tax return, money that can go back to your education (or anywhere else really).
The caveat is that work and school can be incredibly exhausting, even if they are both online. Your grades will have to be higher as C’s are failing, so you must maintain at least a B- in all your classes, which is easier said than done. However, I truly believe the return on investment is the right decision if you think that this will advance your career.
For myself, my BSc was in chemical engineering, and I am earning a MSc in mechanical engineering. With this degree, the required time of experience most employers expect decreases significantly, meaning that the barrier of entry to most jobs is much lower. Furthermore, as the video stated, the rate of pay increases significantly. With a BSc and 3 years of work experience, I am currently making $35/hour or $72.8k annually. With a MSc in engineering, one can expect earnings to be around $100k on the low end to even $200k depending on the job/experience.
Ultimately, I would encourage anyone to pursue higher education but only on two conditions: 1. You are able to afford this without requiring (potentially additional) student loans 2. You have actual evidence that this will increase your net earnings and provide a good return on investment. If you do not fulfil either of these requirements, then I suggest reconsidering this pursuit.
Be a TA or a GA and get that stipend + tuition waiver!!!! Not much but enough to get by.
Exactly. Common sense has now left the chat. LOL.
Word of mouth!!
You are saying it like it's been given as a piece of cake at ease. If we take an example of 10 students applying for those positions, only 1-2 would get them. So it's not a cheery on top available for everyone to get plucked by.
If there were enough positions to cover everyone that would be an ideal alternative but there are usually only a small amount of positions. Even at large research universities.
Generally speaking, I’ve always been told if you’re paying for grad school you’re doing it wrong. At least for a thesis/research based masters, potential advisors should be very transparent about how much money they have to fund you, if TA or GA ships are available, and if you will get a tuition waiver. Most programs also have financial and merit based scholarships purely for graduate students. Don’t go into a program that you haven’t thoroughly investigated to figure out how you will fund yourself- it’s hard work yes but its possible to avoid huge debt.
@@princesninah I think you’re referring to PhD programs. Those are usually paid for. I’m looking to do a masters myself and most programs I’m looking into are crazy expensive, The exception being state universities. From what I’ve seen, most state universities offer tuition wavers for TA/GA positions, however you still have to pay for the thousands of dollars of fees and books, etc. This means you’ll often still end up with at ten grand of debt. That’s better but still a lot in comparison to universities abroad. Some state schools only offer partial waivers tho and the private schools I’ve looked at (including those with giant endowments *cough* UPenn *cough*) sometimes offer no financial support at all for tuition cost upwards of 40,000 per year. I guess it might also depend on what kind of Masters you’re looking at but honestly it’s still a huge financial risk. Particularly if you still have debt from undergrad like me.
Also what if you can’t do a TA/GA position for some reason or you don’t get one. Then you’re stuck with so much extra debt.
Despite all of this, I’m still going to apply for a Masters for 2022 (if the world hasn’t ended by then) but I’m doing a ton of research and making a financial and job plan now to doubly make sure that it’ll pay off in the end. Also I’m a privileged middle class white dude that has parents that could financially support me, so I have time for the research, and could be supported financially while I study.
Sooooo what I truly want to say is: free college for everyone to fight our unjust educational system pls!
I'll be 100% honest - these degrees are valuable if you already work FULL-TIME and have obligations that require you to not be physically present at a University. Anything in business like an MBA isn't worth it to do online since you lose ALL the networking opportunities with alumnus and your peers (which is why you pay top dollar). Computer science, engineering, design are all great programs to do online. 🌟
completely agree Peter, online MBA programs are a scam
Agreed I’m learning Digital marketing online which is a business degree but I just need to learn the software to get an entry- level job Everyone in the field has told me a degrees not needed but mine is cheap so..
@@tracy_cakkes Tracy you're so right, digital marketing is a great field to be in and the software for SEO can be tough to master (plus certifications are important) so you could easily get away with just doing a few cheap classes and taking the tests!
In one of my Uni classes the teacher literally doesn’t teach us anything, she/ he idk , gives us RUclips videos to watch and a basic neuroscience book to read and then we take a quiz and do discussion post.
Like brah
Y’all raised the tuition and I’m paying for something that I could do on my own...
if it wasn’t a requirement in my degree plan I would have dropped that class. I really hope the master’s level stuff at least is really helpful or you learn something you wouldn’t have of done on your own otherwise Uni really isn’t worth it.
Exactly! Oh my god that’s all we do in my classes All the information is on RUclips I’m hoping after finishing gen ed classes I’ll learn some skills for my major
Masters not worth it w wrong profs. I feel like Covid profs are being lax and lazy as well
Yup .
I'm taking an environmental course and I'm learning more about US politics, and I don't even live in the US...
Same I'm taking some classes at a institution in Texas the biggest in the state and the teaching online is trash and lecturers really dont want to help
My name is Daniel, I'm 29 years old, and spending my days watching RUclips videos...
I swear I’ve seen you multiple places before.
Dream job 😅
I already have a bachelor's degree from an in-state public university, but I'm learning to code in a free online certificate course. I can't wait to start applying to jobs and getting a high salary.
If you don’t mind, what’s the name of your free online certificate?
@@larklarkleahleah62 freecodecamp.org
@@kamilahdouglas1609 thanks a lot, and good luck on your journey.
@Kamilah Douglas Not trying to demotivate you but I would advise against being so optimistic. The CS field is SUPER competitive. People with degrees from top schools cant even get jobs right now. You have to work extremely hard. Don't take the easy route. Good luck
@@theendurance sir, how could you wish her the best and tell her to work hard, but then tell her not to be so optimistic? I’m sure she’s researched about the competitive CS field, no need to worry her anymore.
Financial security through diligent saving and investing should be ontop of everyone's priority and when the economy burns you out, you can pursue other options at the time of your choosing. My Son thought I was crazy to put 70% of my paycheck towards investment for 3yrs. I never see it. Today I am blessed with more than I could ask for and currently control 8 rental properties all which I acquired by doing nothing except being smart with my money! You can feel the pain of discipline early or feel the pain of regret later. I wish everyone well!
Hello Jeremy, it took a lot of discipline and sacrifice! I am with USAA and very lucky to have the bank's Fiduciary wealth advisor (Rita Drace Lind) guiding me through this journey. I see her often to discuss my financials but you can use something else. Vanguard is easy to start a account.. The best avenue is to contact your financial advisor. He/she would be a good source for a reputable advice. Rita really pushed me and made me realize what is possible when you're intentional with your finances.
@Jeremy Keefer Can I suggest to you a few books that will keep you mindset in sync with your goals?
That's the smartest thing to do honestly, the price of labor is tanking but the price of capital certainly isn't. The best way to move forward in the world is through property.
Hi, I agree with you. For me, pursuing a masters would be for the financial gain. Right, hopefully see in increase in wages. But for the 2 years of education, plus the tuition, I feel that I am better off buying a rental property. For example, using the $20k as a down payment and cosmetic renovations for a rental property in a good rental market would give me the income increase. Everyone has their own journey for how to obtain wealth. If a person wants to truly learn more and dig deeper into their field, then a masters is great. But again for myself, there are better tools of investments to get me to my financial goals.
@@cheyenneharmon1022 Smart. You are really smart.
I got my undergrad degree from Georgetown University. But I got my dual master degrees elsewhere. I'm astonished that it cost 80K to get a master's degree there. It's unreal
Why did u get it? And what was it? Lol
If you were in georgetown why Didn't you keep your high quality education status?
Honestly apart from specialised jobs you are better of learning things from RUclips, google searches and books.
Yo I saw your video on is university worth it and that's what you said I really liked it man. You should mention that in your comment more people could go there
I agree totally
That’s what I’m doing! The same information I learned in college is right here Only problem with RUclips is you can’t say “I watched some videos” on your resume
We are also better OFF, LOL!
Hope you're not home-schooling anyone above the 2nd-grade level, lol.
Not at all. School will go into MUCH more depth and teaches things in detail. RUclips videos on online resources are too basic.
Moral of the Story: Learn how to code and pass test, this is your only way to pass the bureaucratic of a 'college degree'
Are you legit? I just finished learning html. I am still wondering if I should keep going or look for a higher paying job
@@parodoxicalization HTLM isn't really coding...
@@parodoxicalization bruh you should apply for NASA
@@muhammadahmaad833 thank you
Lol coding scams again
I'm currently in an MBA and it goes like this
>checks online lesson *sees equations*
>checks homework *completely different*
>RUclips search how to ACTUALLY do the homework
Sorry - equations? I’m about to start an MBA. But no one said anything about equations.
@@RoyKoopaling That was my experience too. I was really surprised the video didn't touch on that aspect and just focused only on the price aspect. But more than anything, if you are somebody who cannot become an autodidact then online education is not for you, bachelors or masters. Because you're essentially teaching yourself the materials and the school is just charging that ridiculous tuition fee to grade your work.
@@youandme9569 Worse, they're charging that fee to CERTIFY your work. And remember, US institutions don't believe in external examiners to guarantee quality.
Asking a professor if college is worth it is like asking a military recruiter if the military is worth it
I’ll have to disagree with you on this. I’ve learned more about team building and leadership in the military, which I’ve applied to manufacturing than I have in my online classes. There is good material in my courses, but it’s given me definitions and reasons for tools I’ve used naturally.
The military and college are what you make of it. I’m doing both. If you’re smart about both, they’ll contribute a ton and set you up for life, but if you party away your life in college or go through the motions without developing yourself in the military, or at stupid with your benefits and finances, then you won’t get much out of it.
I don't know if college is worth it after all, but the military definitely is.
But the military gives you 4 years of free college AND monthly housing allowance while you’re in school which is huge. I pocket about $700 every month after rent is paid which I can use on gas/groceries/insurance payments/etc while my classmates have no money to spend whatsoever.
I recognize that guy’s voice at the end of the video. Is that Khan Academy?
Too easy, it’s worth it if someone else pays for it. Getting my masters on the governments dime, in Economic Development & Entrepreneurship.
What are you going to do with that ?
@@BigOdog work for the small business administration while start multiple businesses on the side
Governments Dime? You mean the taxpayers dime. Government has no money except what it takes (taxes) from us the people.
@@WhoIsJohnGaltt thank you for your service.
How do did you manage to do this on the gov't's dime?
Master’s tuition is usually free at public accredited universities in Germany and Norway, even for US students - including for online programs. And the fees are relatively modest in other European countries (usually lower than $800 for the total program cost). Several of my Class of 2020 peers and I are looking at programs in Europe for the affordability, but also to get international experience and potentially work abroad afterwards. Unless I had the chance to study at a top-tier school in the US (with a high return on investment), the costs simply aren’t justified for me. I didn’t think I would go for a Master’s until 2-3 years after graduation but most entry-level jobs in big cities require a master’s degree these days in order to be taken seriously.
It also depends on your area of study. Several degrees from Europe require MULTIPLE hoops to jump through to be credentialed in the United States. Two of the highest median earners included: Law (specifically J.D.) and M.D.s Many mental health professions also have to be credentialed in the state they practice in which is harder to do with degrees from foreign universities. So if moving and practicing there, that works, otherwise you run the risk of wasting your time which is much more valuable than your money.
@@christopherbennett8973 given the shitshow that is the US right now, you might as well stay in Europe
@@johnforestersworstnightmar3756 Yeah that's the other reason we're all heading over there 😂
@@christopherbennett8973 Good points
May I ask which university in Germany offer free online master program for non erupean students? Thank you :)
There is a difference between an online degree designed to be online versus one being forced to suddenly be online. I am pursuing a second master's online in a degree designed to be online and I think it works really great.
As a non-American, it is really hard for me to understand why someone chooses to go 100k in debt for a degree he may not use it after all! He probably didn't even join the workforce to know how hard it'd be to pay this debt for something that could be useless. I'd expect for someone who has already a degree to be smarter!
There’s this myth that college instantly leads to a reliable high paying career. Sure, that’s true if your field is medical, finance, or tech-but conflict resolution? This students going to have a bad wake up call when they leave campus.
The medical finance or tech is a myth. Trust I been there and haven’t used any of my 3 degrees.
@@Pcarnevaaa maybe you're just bipolar. How do you get 3 degrees and not use any of them?
@@joeyhyland medical is the only field with real job security, finance is actually very flimsy just like liberal arts is, maybe a bit better but still terrible.
@@Pclub4ever "Maybe you're just bipolar" perfectly illustrates the pointlessness of so much internet commenting: anonymous abuse delivered in your underpants from the security of your mother's basement.
Fyi, all the things that your professors teach you in class have been regurgitated from your textbook, a textbook that is available online to buy (or free if you're smart enough to figure out how).
In this economy, the real question is: is a Master’s degree worth the money? online or on-campus ...
if you learned something and those skills are applicable to make more money, then yes it's worth it.
A degree to help someone "gain direction". At the Masters level you had better already HAVE direction. Masters are meant as specialization degrees, not as generalist degrees. You want a generalist degree in a discipline, get a Bachelors. You want a specialization degree, Masters. Terminal/Business degree? That's an MBA. Research degree? PhD. But getting a degree to help you figure out what you want to do...that is completely stupid and a waste and the same people who typically do that turn around and cry because they have X degree in a subject that doesn't make any money and wonder why they don't have a job. I worked at Target once with a bright girl who had a 3.7 GPA in her Bachelors in Archeology...what could she do with it? Well, she was on year 3 at Target in an hourly position because there are absolutely no jobs for Archeology majors unless you go overseas and have a minimum of a Masters AND be en-route to a PhD.
Jesus thats brutal that girls dreams got crushed... reminds me of my ex, she had a bachelors in History and 2 associates degrees for knowing korean and farsi (she also knew spanish and english) and she was actually completely fluent in all 4 languages (it wasnt like half baked broken knowledge).
This girl was working as a dental assistant because she could only get a job in a museum as a curator and even that was hard to come by and very low paying (hourly).
So sad.
I started my masters of science in user experience online this fall and honestly I feel it’s gonna get me far. I already have a software engineering degree but I did want to explore more of the business aspect of user research . I’m also gonna be doing my thesis at a lab that specializes in data collection of user data and the lab partners with company sponsors that students can write their thesis in so this degree will also make me develop further technical skills in data research.
Hi. May I ask where you are studying please?
Me too!
The short answer is no. The long answer is no with an asterisk*, most people should not be getting one anyway because of the cost and the fact you can do just fine in numerous ways and little debt you have down on you, the more quickly and with the agility you can move about to make smart financial moves. Lawers, doctors, data scientists, and software engineers will always be in demand but just because you heard your parents and all of your buddies say it was a good idea doesn't mean that is the path for you.
Omfg no that’s not true. The whole STEM thing is a myth. Trust me I know I have 3 degrees in cs, and specialize in oncology. Supposed one of the most lucrative fields in medicine and not using any of my degrees. It’s a scam. Don’t fall for it.
In addition becoming a lawyer today is definitely not worth it. The saturation level is off the charts. I think every 1 American can have 2 lawyers assigned to them...
@@Pcarnevaaa WOW it's that bad now? WTF happened in America. I can't believe it's gotten worse.
If you're paying tons for a master's degree, you're doing it WRONG. I got my Msc in a specialized computational field at a great public university. I worked hard and got a research assistantship that covered the tuition of 2/3 of the semesters and also got paid a $1,000/month stipend that mostly paid me back for the first semester that I paid out of pocket for. My total out of pocket cost was $3,000 and I got a job right out of graduation making $80k/year.
Were you in the military? I only hear about the military offering those kind of benefits through the military 😭
@@erhunolaye4640 Nope. Just a typical master's program at a public uni
@@erhunolaye4640 if youre studying statistics, com sci, engineering etc most grad programs should have funding for you (all PhDs and a lot of masters). In fact, during undergrad, my profs told me to RUN AWAY from any grad program that didn't offer funding
Wow, nice work!
@@aisherwasher6959 thank you for the advice !!!
People have 60k in debt and really tell themselves “yea let’s go get a masters to get more in debt”.
I have no debt and wouldnt consider it if this was the case.
Don't forget about the people who are earning masters for a career change. They may need to do this because their undergrad degree is completely different.
Yess!!!
Probably not. But it’s going to depend on your major. I would only do it if my company pays for it or It will make me more
Money (significantly more money)
Online class is “busy work”. Group projects don’t exist, there is no sense of interaction, and you basically just sit there and look at a PowerPoint presentation.
Interesting - my online MS had numerous group projects and presentations.
Have you actually taken Masters level classes? Because it’s really not like that
@@gregoryvierra6114 Doing a “group” project over webcam is not the same as in person... that’s my point.
Try to learn from it. Have been a few remote positions and not everyone able to do remote work. Ex, unable to do work without direct supervision, don't have enough discipline to work at home etc.
If you can work it out, it can be a valuable skill in the future as it associates with time management skill, communication skill, self-discipline, etc.
@@mariak4311 but you can learn that without takink an online masters degree
I'm getting a masters in cybersecurity. The kicker is MOST employers want a significant amount of experience in this field, despite the large need for CS workers
And the degree tends to lower the number of years of experience employers want. Henceforth the drive and need for the degree.
I'm in the same boat. Get a general IT job as soon as you can (if you haven't already), and then transition to cybersecurity once you have 5 years of experience in the computer industry. Also, get your Security+ CE certification and start studying for your CISSP exam.
Georgia Tech's Online Masters programs are nothing like the video shows. It's high quality, makes use of multiple LMS platforms and has significant amounts of collaboration built-in. As a USC grad and current Georgia Tech M.S. student, I feel the quality is equal and I've had the privilege of learning from professors in the tech industry such as Sebastian Thrun (Waymo @ Google) and Ayana Howard (NASA robotics).
Yeah, I notice how they skipped over asking the Georgia Tech student how her experience was. The media will always spin the most controversial narrative over the actual truth. These articles are basically clickbait. CNBC makes money from the ad rev, they don't care about how accurate it is, just that it's eye-catching enough.
Yeah it’s ga tech.
The big question is if a masters degree in general is a returned investment in your particular field of study. More and more fields don’t “need” a degree to be successful. Also there is a higher demand for trade jobs and skilled laborers. Then look into how you learn as a student. If you thrive on a online platform go for an online program. If you absolutely need the physical learning environment, maybe wait it out until you can get to a physical class. It’s not a one size fits all answer.
EXACTLY
Degrees are generally not worth the money and by doing then online you lose the best part! The interaction with your fellow students, getting to know interesting new people and University vibe...
That's an idealized view of the college experience. Maybe that's real in some places. But once you're over 30, have both job and life experience and you're trying to get that education merit raise or promotion, the last thing you want to do is spend hours on a campus dealing with a bunch of kids who barely care and spending weeks at a time listening to theory about things you've already done for real.
Btw, online classes do have interaction with other classmates. Some schools have both message boards and video class setups. The no-interaction thing is an antiquated concern.
An online degree isnt worth it period. Online college is RUclips. Seriously, you pay tons of money for your professors to say "Google or RUclips it"
Isn't the best answer it depends? Cost, networking, etc or whether your dream job requires an actual masters? I'm doing the 2nd half of my degree online bc of Covid but without one, no career opportunities period. That being said for most MA degrees you can learn a chunk of the material online....
Depends on the program and why you think you’ll need one for the future.
If you’re looking for more money within your career, you’re more likely to get a bigger base salary if you churn jobs every 2-3 years, rather than hope for a 10% raise at that same company.
And the school...
The HR woman makes hard time for me by asking:"Why you keep changing your job?", questioning my loyalty.
@@HaiLeQuang that's none of her business...if your management allows it that's all that matters...meanwhile you get your skill set up by moving around...who wants to stay in the same position forever?
@@born2reign90 But how do I respond for such question during a job interview?
@@HaiLeQuang Maybe something like, at the time I was trying to gain insight on how my skill set could be an asset to each company while also trying my hand in several different roles further challenge myself so that I can prove to be more of an asset to the company???? How does that sound???
Get your employers to foot the bill if they really want you to have a masters degree. They’re the ones who want you to have it. Definitely don’t go into debt for a degree that won’t guarantee you a job anymore than a bachelor would.
Better use the money to invest in stock or bitcoin
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I was triggered af when Sal Khan started talking- it reminded me the times I was struggling in ochem in college 😭😂
is studying at an University in the US worth it should be the Question
The US is full of top notch Universities and you’ll see many foreign students on campus.
Only if you study in an Ivy League university
School prices in USA are just crazy.
But the salaries justify it, right?
It depends. I’m still going to graduate school for speech pathology.
omg I was thinking of doing this after a bachelor’s in speech pathology assistant. Was it easy to find a job after graduating?
You're paying for the name on the degree.
That's it.
taurence doesn't need $80k of debt to learn to resolve conflicts, he has the softest, most feminine, calming voice that nobody would dare to shout back at him.
For me, going back to university for masters is not just for knowledge but the experience especially the cultural and social differences. Why online degree is a no no. I already take a lot of certification courses online.
in 5-10 years, people would not consider going to colleges and even take the student loan for attending the college. Educational business just got disrupted
Yep but I’d say more like 2-3 years. It’s game over for most colleges
Thank God. A few years ago, I was accepted into a private college to earn a Master's in Psychology. I calculated the degree would have been upwards of $100,000. I declined getting my Masters.
While I'm still a bit unsure of the direction I'm going in, I do not regret turning down that school. I worked for a total of about 4 years in higher education, and I've realized more and more just how much of a cash grab it all is. Now with the pandemic, people are realizing they're paying an astronomical amount of money for a piece of paper when you can learn everything online.
I'm *thrilled* to see where this new direction might be going toward. I hope we *do* change our higher education institutions. They're hundreds of years old. What business lasts for hundreds of years without changing their practices? Let's hope for more affordable options with the intention that education should be for all.
It's only partly about the knowledge. It's just as much about the networking, the project/internship opportunities, and the credential - all of which gain you a lot more access than knowledge alone.
@@lightsnow123 if education become cheaper, the salaries too
Actually, the online learning model is more efficient and flexible compared with the traditional way, for example, once I wake up, I can open my compmuter to start the lecture without catching the bus to the campus, and you also have high quality recording, which you can revise again and again if you don't catch the points in class or you miss the lecture, This means that you can arrange your time more flexibly. I usually revise the coure content after I have reviewed the lecture note in details, it is very helpful. So in terms of learning knowledge itself, there is nothing wrong even better, But in terms of social life and meeting the leactuers and students, this is really bad. For a master course, you even don't have any chance to meet your cohort only by watching their names on the virtual meetings. And you don't have too many friends to talk with if your master unversity is at a new country. That is very suffering.
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: it depends.
WTF 43,000 and 19,000?!!!
That is not average. That's is the lowest price you will find without factoring in fees and books
In the United States.
@@anoukc6928that's definitely not the average price in united states
I was thinking the exact same thing That out of state price is what most of my friends pay in state
I wanna get paid to be a professional student.
Thankfully my job is paying for my masters
...same.
@@StilettoShay That is awesome!!
Same here, union job. Software dev, going for my 2nd Masters for the credential to advance. But I'm still paying off my 1st Masters that I got at the start of the last recession (I was already in grad school when it hit - no point leaving then).
I went to an online-based master program. I think, overall, the program material is definitely accessible online but I did enjoy collaborating with my peers. I think that environment is what made my Masters Program rewarding.
@Alishbah Shahid I have to double check but I think it's just say my degree and not being online or not. Most interviewers will assume it's in person from my experience.
I am getting a bachelors in CS, and I want to get a masters. Not just for jobs, I actually have ambitions to maybe lecture one day.
lol. a masters in cs is not going to get u a better job. 3 years of actual job experience is
If you want to teach college, you'll either need the PhD or 20+ yrs experience in the field, or both. Unless it's a smaller community college, or rural K-12 school, they might let you teach with just the Masters.
@@kizarumelon2477 You’re wrong!! There’s ways he can leverage his education and previous projects, internships or previous jobs as EXPERIENCE. Plus, all he needs is an entry level position to get his foot in. STEM programs like CS people make 6-figures salaries PLUS BONUSES after a few years maybe even less that 2 years if lucky.
@@Melanated483 lmfao i interview people all the time and i talk from experience from being in the dev market for over 20 years. what is ur opinion based off of?.
I’m in graduate school studying leadership online for free through my job. Definitely worth it. Deferring loans and free education while I’m already working full time and pursuing my passion. Unless you can do it like this (or another finesse), please, DONT DO IT
I received a master's degree in Teaching English as a Second Language online. As an expat, the M.A. helped me immensely. I went from working at soul-crushing English "academies" with pitiful pay to a legitimate international school. I can confidently say that I more than doubled my salary AND I have accommodations from the school (housing stipend, relocation stipend, etc).
Hello Darren, I am also a TESOL certified ESL teacher who seeks to boost his career. Could you share which university did you study and which masters did you get?
I have one and it allowed me to switch my career. Although it is a state school, I guess that helps.
No, never. Please ask professionals, all will tell you no! Ask before you sign for the life changing loan, for the love of life, think!
All? I for one would say go for it as it’s paid off for me. Don’t knock something unless you’ve done it.
I wouldn’t say never... sometimes it works out quite well
Some fields REQUIRE a masters, like data science, AI, Machine Learning, Psychology, etc
All masters degrees are bad unless you are already working in the field full time.
@@Pcarnevaaa some actually require you to get a masters you know...
Once you do an online masters or even an online bachelors , boy you understand that you waste a lot of time in physical college
Got my masters paid for by the school through tuition waivers and stipends. Did it the right way.
Some schools also do 5 year programs when you’re an undergrad with the fifth year being the year you get your masters. Oftentimes they’ll extend your scholarships over that extra year too.
This video and the responses came at the perfect time as I’ve been weighing this exact question!
Maybe youtube knew what you were thinking and suggested this Video! Wake up guys Google is spying to our thoughts and dreams and suggesting stuff even before we think about it just by listening to our snores.
I definitely don’t think graduate degrees r worth it unless your going for a specific field that requires it and you better be sure that that field is what you want to do before signing for any loans
3:58 graduates earn &1,248 per week? Am I on the right planet?
RUclips, Google, and Amazon is helping improving there life.? After having the knowledge., you invest in the market by working and help it grow.
I have an associate degree in account and a nursing degree. Yet! When I connect on RUclips, or Amazon and google., I learn so much more then from the learning I have took in college and universities.
People have life and responsibilities. Seating in college for years after years just to make a living and yet still can’t find a job ended to you after graduation is ridiculous.
Colleges and Universities isn’t a bad way to learn but with this video promoting that it should be the only way in 2020 is ridiculous.
You can teach yourself to code for free and then make 100k+ . This is a no brainer. Pursue your dreams but learn to code as a backup plan when things don't go your way.
you can practically learn everything for free or even at 1/10th the cost of a masters degree. One misses out on the brand name that's all but the industry is moving towards hiring skill oriented people than fancy degree holders
You wont get the same structure and guidance if you learn by yourself. Most people dont have the motivation because there is no pressure. With school, you HAVE to do you assignments and finish your work.
Checking the requirements of the job you want to have will give you an idea if u need masters or not. A lot of professions though value more hands on training. Also some companies when you get hired will even pay for your masters for professional development. You should have a clear career path in mind.
I graduated with my master's degree in 2007. Tuition was $170 per credit hour. The program was 33 hours long. Total tuition price $5,610. I purchased my books via eBay! I was working full time and was able to pay as I go with no student loan. I taught a handful of adjunct college courses and easy made this back.
Today, the total tuition is the price of a luxury vehicle or a small home in some places! This is not good, especially with tools like EdX, Coursera and of course RUclips freely available. I see why many are predicting a bubble burst in the higher education industry.
Their estimates are for low to mid ranking schools. But if it's top 100, it's $40k at public universities and $70k+ at private
From my experience in the IT field for +15 years, I think technical and soft skills are more important than degrees...Get certified through Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Cisco, etc. depending on your specialty...My graduate degree in engineering helped me get hired though...
The degree helps you obtain promotions, although I second the call for soft skills. Too few programs, and no bootcamps, emphasize writing, working in teams, or evaluating the real-world factors along with the technical ones.
Education is always going to reward you after short period of time. So invest in yourself people are not dumb to get educated.
It’s such bs. They’re still charging us library fee, parking fee, gym fee, student union fee, and more...
All of you are getting Phoenix Online education at 50,000 a year.
I would personally start a business with 50,000 and learn from real world MBA.
I’ve had friends regret getting their MBA they said learning about the theory of starting a business is a waste of time when they should have just actually started a business. Some of the entrepreneurship professors have never started a business in their life That’s why billionaires never have a college degree, they just did it and learned through trial and error
@@tracy_cakkes education creates amazing worker bees.
...yeah, I would never attend a for-profit university.
Start a business is definitely harder than an MBA
Before you guys keep reading the comments, know this. Online Bootcamp coders are not considered by myself or anyone who has hired me to be on par with experience and/or a bachelors. If anything, if you cannot learn on your own, I really don't want you. It takes sweat and persistence to make it in life. Free online bootcamps are nice but they are there to accelerate learning among the experienced. The attitude here is a bit disgusting. I graduated in 2011 with a liberal arts degree but went right into interning as a coder and earning a CS degree [I was lucky to have college nearly entirely paid for because my uni thought I was worth a forgiven scholarship]. I ended up with a math and cs degree, well completing CS next year. I made it to Data architect and lead on a few corporate projects before that earning good money but that was not the point. I now run 2 projects through my own company, am the lead backend engineer for a startup, and technical write. I WILL NOT HIRE YOU IF YOU ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY. That is where you go wrong. It is also why I ignore most business school degrees who act like they know math and analytics. News flash, you don't even know as much as a math major unless you pick up the credits and go to a STEM related masters program. Finally, IT recruiters are notoriously horrible. They will give anyone a shot because if even one person makes it, they earn a commission equal to 1-2 years of your pay.
It certainly depends on the industry and concentration. For industries such as accounting and Finance it’s certainly beneficial. My wife saw a 35k salary increase getting her master’s in accounting
I earned an MBA from an AASCB accredited state university (Lamar U) online for less than 13K. I worked full-time while earning it. Learned a ton, expanded my network, and am now highly-qualified for an upcoming promotion. No it's not HBS, for it worked out great for me!