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No, I think he should be confronted and suspended. To be incarcerated for such pittances when interest on his accrued income since he became a minister could pay for all these “gifts”, the punishment seemed excessive.
In my opinion, no to jail term. If I hold such a position, people definitely would want to give me things or discounts. It is not wrong. Unless I request or demand. Removing him from his position is already a punishment n embarrassment. There are far more important crimes to look into it. Let Mr Iswaran move on. All humans make mistakes, and Singaporean should look at the bigger picture n forgive him. Who are we to judge.
It is just a case of 贪小便宜， greedy for small benefits. A jail sentence would be excessive,. Getting dismissal and being fined should be more appropriate punishment.
For countries that view corruption as likely or assuming it's alright for high position minister to acccept gifts and favours, this punishment is excessive. However, we Singaporean (at least me and my circles of friends) think the jail term should be handled out in accordance with the law regardless of one's status. Corruption is not to be tolerated in Singapore. He should know the consequences when he acccepted those gifts. If there is any hint of exception in the sentencing, come voting time, and the results will be reflected. By the way, the Singapore election is just months, if not a year, from now.
Iswaran should be given a very heavy punishment. The AG is only looking at 6 to 7 months of jail time. The defending lawyer Davinder Singh is pleading for just 6 to 7 weeks. But the public would like to see a 6 to 7 years of jail time. Here is my reasoning. All ministers have taken the oath of being clean and non bias or shown of favoritism in the execution of duty and always for the benefit for the nation. In return the minister will be paid highly as Singapore is renowned for being the highest paid civil servants and Prime Minister and President being the highest paid on this Earth. The public has given the confidence and high pay hence it is the party PAP who has the final say on how he will be punished. The former great leader LKY would have put him in jail no less than 3 years and maybe a cane. But the party has experience a moral decay by being lenient. His son LHL prefer to turn a blind eye and quickly sweep this incident under the carpet. Hence Iswaran and his lawyers plead guilty and seek leniency and wrap the case ASAP. There is no follow up on opinions in the country’s media such as ST and CNA. Even social media was quite quiet on this affair.
Stop you bullshit, the government have not direct involvement in the investigation and trial. Is impossible for the prosecutors to prove him guilty off corruption.
@haihuatlim8781 If you believed all this play acting, you have been totally hood-winked.This is just a script conjured by those involved. Iswaran may look glum, but he may be $5 -10 million richer for all you know. If there is a Hollywood in the US, there is also one in Singapore Just sit in jail for a while and prove to the world and ppl of Singapore that the CPIB are not corrupt and that the government has zero tolerance for corruption. Easy money.lol. Don't tell me you don't want?
It is laughable that the PAP insisted on astronomical tax-funded salaries and huge bonuses to eliminate corruption but time and again, they have been proven wrong. While they are enjoying sky-high salaries and bonuses, the average citizens are fighting for survival with escalating food, utilities and medical costs. Why was there no investigation into a certain Minister's sale of his bungalow for S$88m which he had bought for close to S$8m? Who is the benefactor or who is the trustee and why would they be willing to pay S$88m for a S$8m bungalow? Why was this not covered widely? Singapore has been used as a haven for money laundering. Please investigate the sale transaction and account for the huge profit to the Minister who is a Public Servant. It is a public matter because he is paid with public funds.
Maybe they will say iswaran's low salary led him to accept free gifts. If he was paid millions more then he would not have accepted the free gifts? Time to revise ministers salaries upwards again.... lol
Did any PAP MP take care of his/her constituency except to come out and shake hands with their fake smile and concern when the GE is near? How about the shady practice of bringing in unknown candidates into their GRCs without the voters' approval? A radio DJ can become an MP via LHL's GRC. A certain doctor can bypass the single constituency loss by riding on yet another GRC backdoor. The voters were blind-sided.
Technically No - Receiving gifts with no favours given. But with 165, he should have delcared. Whatever it is, never mixed business with friendship. When I was the decision maker for vendors in my company, giving me a lift home I will reject. Sending all the pretty sales persons to see me, i will have 2 or 3 of my staff to be around. Inviting me to restaurants for celebrate good business partnership, i will along 2 or 3 of my staff along. Giving hampers during CNY and EOY, they will be placed in a prominent place for everyone to share. Just do your job and be happy to collect your salary.
What about accepting holidays with rich business man eg staying in their villas. drinking the best whiskey, cognac and wine, not to mention eating the best food. According to the AGC chambers, this is an offence.
Which PAP MPs benefitted from the F1 event, if any? How come 2 MPs receiving salaries and bonuses from taxpayers were allowed to rent huge state-owned bungalows? Please have a COI on this matter.
Please give him THE maximum punishment ACCORDING TO THE LAW !! If NOT, kindly THROW AWAY THE LAW INTO A BIN, IT IS USELESS TO HVE A LAW WHICH IS NOT DO-able and is NEGOtiable !! Was'salam
The director of CPIB briefed the PM before the minister was arrested or charged. That suggests the PM always felt safe since no one would imagine he would approve an investigation on himself! Brilliant arrangement!
I've lost in PAP governance. There is slip in standard. During LHL period many corruption case. LTA HDB KEPPEL SPH even THEY used a scapegoat to sell NOL. SINGAPORE IS GONE . Sayonara
Better than your neighbor where corruption by ministers can have DNAA treatment and still keep their post, some found guilty are hail as hero putting them in house arrest 😅
Guilty as charged ..he is damn lucky it has been amended ..to me it's a damn shame for such high elites to even need to go down this road ..what irks me most is that all this time he said he was innocent ...why then suddenly he says guilty but of cos to a far lesser charge...
What Happened To The Monthly " REDUCED SALARY OF $8500 Which LEE HSIEN LOONG SYMPATHETICALLY INSISTED ON GIVING HIM For Over A Year ? WHAT NO NEED TO PAP AAaaaaGH ? It 's PUBLIC FUNDS YOU KNOW ?NOT A GENEROUS DONATION FROM THE EX PM 🗣️💦💦
For a minister earning millions in salaries, it's just beyond an ordinary folk like me to understand why such greed or foolishness or pure stupidity for him to risk it all for some gifts. Like most cases , Initially denying all charges until legal fees debt started piling up
Must be punished I think we are slacking in our system since LKY not in charge too many inference pressure from ruling party so our AGC AND CPIB AND COURTS CANT DO A HONEST JOB
Meanwhile in India a government bureaucrat has amassed 30 million usd via corruption just got suspension for 6 weeks and nolw is back to work again. Thats why we are a 3rd world country
Get all mp n ministers to declare their assets b4 appointment to cpib fm there they can have their assessment on each mp n minsters n do not over paid our ministers pack their salary n remuneration with the first world leaders n minister.The high salary implement by LKY to the minister is long gone cause at that time either they dont have people with mind or personality or they afraid n fear for being arrested .Anyway the ministers do not work alone they have many people working under each ministry.
Good idea, but then less people are willing to take up the post lol, indo can be an example, as any house member are required to declare, but they don’t
@@nunyabz9494 LKY n GJT era people are comfortable with their daily life n do not seek for office bearer but LSL n PM Wong are totally different fm the 21st century more are joining opposition party or incumbent cause allowance is high n is comfortable n can have other job,previously they are not allow n of course they want to improve the life of the people n if you are office bearer the status is totally different n their salary is the highest among the first world government,which I think do not justify
Just because the AGC's legal opinion that the Court of Law might NOT view their evident as strong enough to convict S Iswaran as guilty of corruption, they changed their charges to a less charge in which S Iswaran pleaded GUILTY to. Question: Was there a plea bargaining between the AGC legal team and S Iswaran legal team? That often happen when it is a win-win for everyone. No? 🤔🤔🤔
The reason that the high salaries meant the civil servants are not inclined to pursue commercial activities and corruption to be dedicated to their work, is clearly falling apart. This very disconcerting revelation for all to look into and work on. Promises are made to be kept.
Maybe without the high salaries, there will be another 10 corruption cases pending. There is no such thing as corruption free. What is not acceptable is the short jail term!
In my opinion all this is Bullshìt. "Had Iswaran not participated in the trip, his misconduct might have remained undiscovered." What a load of rubbish. All Ministers in charge of critical Ministries are under surveillance as a matter of routine. EVERYTHING that Iswaran did and took was known to Govt for many decades/years. The extremely detailed lists of services/items given to Iswaran shows that all along there have been people within the Govt and even employees within HPL and Lum Chang - who kept detailed records. Govt decided at one point that Iswaran had crossed the limit.
Yup, it is stated in the Civil service protocol that a civil servant can accept gifts but must be declared to the office. In the first instance he should have outrightly rejected Ong's gifts.. Why not just have lunch and dinner with Ong instead of accepting gifts.?
Tha opposition member must asked the senior minister Lee Sien loong its isarwan the minister's is above the law only 7 months jailed the judge study law of the jungle should be removed from the supreme court.😢😢😢😢😢😢
Watch the next election in Singapore the result will tsrnished the Name of PAP that LKY build with his iron hand. I believed LKY will wake up from his grave. So singaporean a wake up call to vote for the opposition in November election. I dont think PAP will last for another decade.😢😢😢😢😢
The judge should be removed in Iswaran sentence for 7 months is all bias the judicial is corrupted. The miinister's is highly paid dont tell me he cant afford to buy 14 bottle of fine wishkey' and a bike cyclec 700.00 and golf clubs. He is a clear greed.should not be sentence so lightly for 7 months plus minus good behivour the most he will be in prison for 4 months. Now l believed Lawrance wong the new PM must carry the bsby for Lee Sien Loong.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Our guess is that the prosecution don’t have a case against Ong Beng Seng and Lum Kok Seng. Section 165 applies to public servants accepting gifts but doesn’t penalize non-public servants from offering gifts. And since prosecution couldn’t prove that Iswaran had done any favours after receiving the gifts, it is unlikely the two men will be charged for corruption. Our two cents worth!
Iswaran became too arrogant for his own good and got careless. I don't think he was necessarily corrupted but just got careless and realized too late of the folly of his actions and in attempting to cover up, it just got worse for him. The Singapore SOP is great for making their employees toe the line and at the same can also be used as a tool to get rid of their opponents
If these were the charges, I can't help but wonder how many politicians in Malaysia would be lining up for their day in court-probably need a bigger courtroom!
In Malaysia, in 2009 and 2015, two persons were permanently silenced. Mr.Teoh Beng Hock discovered the irregularities which leads to investigation by MACC and was found dead on the 14th floor of the anti corruption bureau building. At that time, Teoh BH was a political aide to the then-Selangor executive councilor Ean Yong. Public prosecutor, Kevin Morais was found dead on one fateful day after family member found him unusually to return home late. Mr Morais never reached his house after leaving office on that day. Several months before his passing, he was involved in the investigation relating to high government officials.
@kamsiahg Corruption cases at the higher echelon of governance are kept at bay, and if necessary, it will be investigated by CPIP in Singapore. It is not so in Malaysia. Nevertheless, there is no such thing as a perfect country. We are human society with complex thoughts and desires. It is a matter of decision making and the corresponding consequences. We reap what we sown. There are no such things as zero crime countries in reality. A perfect country but hypothetical. " I think therefore I am." Translated from Latin, " cogito, ergo sum" The 1st principle of Rene Descartes' philosophy. What the statement is trying to convey is that if I doubt that I am doubting, then I am doubting, and if it is in fact the case that I am doubting, then it must be the case that I exist. It is important to see that this same type of analysis doesn't hold with other activities, such as walking. In the case of S Iswaran's corruption charges, he denied the reason for accepting gifts in the past from Mr.Ong Beng Seng, which was a form of bribery act. Therefore, he doubted those gifts were a form of bribery after certified procurement of a certain contract to the other party. This case also involves OBS and the chairman of Lum Cheng Contractors.
It’s very difficult to determine whether that giver has offered to bribe or is forced to provide when, obviously, he isn’t the one with authority or power.
@@marktn9851 yup obviously both of them will not incriminate themselves. Not a straight forward case. If u have difficulty to secure a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt then it is better not to even start to charge
It is by 'luck' that Iswaran was investigated because of CPIB's digging into OBS's case, else no one will ever know a minister is accepting gifts from a businessman. So an extremely well paid minister does not mean he or she will not do such things. Should the government employ undercover spies to monitor government officials, ministers and whistleblow on them, instead of 'by luck' such cases are found out ?
E is not wrong in this world you always receive free gifts from your rich friends because it's common! You can only charge a person for "helping or doing a big favor!" if receiving a free gift then there should be no road shows and free gifts for any shoppers! 😅😅😅😅 Own wife also can not accept free makan from brother inlaws😅😅😅 from relative 😅😅😅 see mahthir? 😅😅😅 Sons are billionaires 😅😅😅😅
Now that Iswaran has ben dealt with the next person to face the same punishment is Ong Beng Seng. He is the perpetrator who schemed the whole charade so well, a truly slimy individual in our society. The PAP government must punish and expel him from Singapore permanently, then I would say the PAP is being fair to Iswaran and just in the eyes of Singaporeans and the world at large. Yes Iswaran brought shame to his fellow Singaporeans through his greed and shameless behavior.
Civil servant should be about providing a service to its nation and SGP should not mind paying them more than they deserve in order to get the “best man” for any posts. However, they should be penalised much greater in any case as such… a balance.
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No, I think he should be confronted and suspended. To be incarcerated for such pittances when interest on his accrued income since he became a minister could pay for all these “gifts”, the punishment seemed excessive.
In my opinion, no to jail term. If I hold such a position, people definitely would want to give me things or discounts. It is not wrong. Unless I request or demand.
Removing him from his position is already a punishment n embarrassment. There are far more important crimes to look into it. Let Mr Iswaran move on. All humans make mistakes, and Singaporean should look at the bigger picture n forgive him. Who are we to judge.
@lilycool2601 even his own lawyer thinks he deserves 8 weeks of jail
It is just a case of 贪小便宜， greedy for small benefits. A jail sentence would be excessive,. Getting dismissal and being fined should be more appropriate punishment.
For countries that view corruption as likely or assuming it's alright for high position minister to acccept gifts and favours, this punishment is excessive. However, we Singaporean (at least me and my circles of friends) think the jail term should be handled out in accordance with the law regardless of one's status. Corruption is not to be tolerated in Singapore. He should know the consequences when he acccepted those gifts. If there is any hint of exception in the sentencing, come voting time, and the results will be reflected. By the way, the Singapore election is just months, if not a year, from now.
It is a shame on him it not fit to be sg citizen we can't affort to have ppl with corruption..
Iswaran should be given a very heavy punishment. The AG is only looking at 6 to 7 months of jail time. The defending lawyer Davinder Singh is pleading for just 6 to 7 weeks. But the public would like to see a 6 to 7 years of jail time. Here is my reasoning. All ministers have taken the oath of being clean and non bias or shown of favoritism in the execution of duty and always for the benefit for the nation. In return the minister will be paid highly as Singapore is renowned for being the highest paid civil servants and Prime Minister and President being the highest paid on this Earth. The public has given the confidence and high pay hence it is the party PAP who has the final say on how he will be punished. The former great leader LKY would have put him in jail no less than 3 years and maybe a cane. But the party has experience a moral decay by being lenient. His son LHL prefer to turn a blind eye and quickly sweep this incident under the carpet. Hence Iswaran and his lawyers plead guilty and seek leniency and wrap the case ASAP. There is no follow up on opinions in the country’s media such as ST and CNA. Even social media was quite quiet on this affair.
Stop you bullshit, the government have not direct involvement in the investigation and trial.
Is impossible for the prosecutors to prove him guilty off corruption.
@haihuatlim8781 If you believed all this play acting, you have been totally hood-winked.This is just a script conjured by those involved. Iswaran may look glum, but he may be $5 -10 million richer for all you know. If there is a Hollywood in the US, there is also one in Singapore Just sit in jail for a while and prove to the world and ppl of Singapore that the CPIB are not corrupt and that the government has zero tolerance for corruption. Easy money.lol. Don't tell me you don't want?
Drawing very high salary but accepting cheap favours is nothing but stupid.
High pay won't corrupt?
basically a cheapo nana
Being stupid or ignorant doesn't make him innocent without any conviction.
He thought "small price" is immaterial to get under the radar
Too greedy fir luxury despite earning a high salary. What a cheap and shameful behaviour.
It is laughable that the PAP insisted on astronomical tax-funded salaries and huge bonuses to eliminate corruption but time and again, they have been proven wrong. While they are enjoying sky-high salaries and bonuses, the average citizens are fighting for survival with escalating food, utilities and medical costs.
Why was there no investigation into a certain Minister's sale of his bungalow for S$88m which he had bought for close to S$8m? Who is the benefactor or who is the trustee and why would they be willing to pay S$88m for a S$8m bungalow? Why was this not covered widely? Singapore has been used as a haven for money laundering.
Please investigate the sale transaction and account for the huge profit to the Minister who is a Public Servant. It is a public matter because he is paid with public funds.
Pap is a corrupt party, all will be exposed if they lose the next election.
Maybe they will say iswaran's low salary led him to accept free gifts. If he was paid millions more then he would not have accepted the free gifts? Time to revise ministers salaries upwards again.... lol
Yes, please investigate and remember to return us in full $2 per Singaporean
He did Not take care of his dear residents in his constituency, especially the very poor residents for decades, while he was in the office..
Did any PAP MP take care of his/her constituency except to come out and shake hands with their fake smile and concern when the GE is near? How about the shady practice of bringing in unknown candidates into their GRCs without the voters' approval? A radio DJ can become an MP via LHL's GRC. A certain doctor can bypass the single constituency loss by riding on yet another GRC backdoor. The voters were blind-sided.
Yes, I heard of it too😢
Why still got fools still singing his praises out there?
Did he pay back all the minister salary and mp allowances that he was given pending investigation?
Vote wisely next time. The rot goes deep, we must unroot the rot.
Bigger shock wave is the charges were amended to lighter ones and he was sentenced lightly .
Shame on u as a high senior civil servant - job is to serve all singaporean citizens
he's obviously serving himself!!!
4G SELF SERVING ELITIST
OWNSELF CHECK OWNSELF
What about kepple bribing got of stern warning double standard 😂
Technically No - Receiving gifts with no favours given. But with 165, he should have delcared. Whatever it is, never mixed business with friendship. When I was the decision maker for vendors in my company, giving me a lift home I will reject. Sending all the pretty sales persons to see me, i will have 2 or 3 of my staff to be around. Inviting me to restaurants for celebrate good business partnership, i will along 2 or 3 of my staff along. Giving hampers during CNY and EOY, they will be placed in a prominent place for everyone to share. Just do your job and be happy to collect your salary.
Absolutely. 👍 And you are, presumably, not even having a salary of >$1mil.
@@JohnLee-gt3sr The $1M is also for the ministers to buy those gifts they may have received. So no excuses.
how wld we know if no favours or impacted decisions were made due to presents😮
Friendship? 3 year old write so well.
@@2bystander2 that was why the 30 charges were dropped. No evidence.
What about accepting holidays with rich business man eg staying in their villas. drinking the best whiskey, cognac and wine, not to mention eating the best food. According to the AGC chambers, this is an offence.
Which PAP MPs benefitted from the F1 event, if any? How come 2 MPs receiving salaries and bonuses from taxpayers were allowed to rent huge state-owned bungalows? Please have a COI on this matter.
As a season Ministers he should know the consequences. Earning so much money and yet involved with such corruption is no excuse. Just a frank opinion.
Please give him THE maximum punishment ACCORDING TO THE LAW !!
If NOT, kindly THROW AWAY THE LAW INTO A BIN, IT IS USELESS TO HVE A LAW WHICH IS NOT DO-able and is NEGOtiable !!
Was'salam
Give him Maximum Sentence set precedent for Ministers
The director of CPIB briefed the PM before the minister was arrested or charged. That suggests the PM always felt safe since no one would imagine he would approve an investigation on himself!
Brilliant arrangement!
In event it is pm in question, cpib will approach president
@@theyixman Who actually appoints the president? The PM of course! So the PM is always on the top of the food chain !! He would never be investigated.
@@theyixman and you think president is really an independent person!? not in Singapore 😊
Tip of iceberg compared to rig out
The pace to plea bargain him, we like to know who else involved
thank you for this objective and factual coverage on this case!
Why so light penalty ?????? Money is Evil……
I've lost in PAP governance. There is slip in standard. During LHL period many corruption case. LTA HDB KEPPEL SPH even THEY used a scapegoat to sell NOL. SINGAPORE IS GONE . Sayonara
Ownself check ownself
ONLY 6-8 mths for CORRUPTED MINISTER
In the end 6-8 wks Jail Term
LUDICROUS
Better than your neighbor where corruption by ministers can have DNAA treatment and still keep their post, some found guilty are hail as hero putting them in house arrest 😅
wait till final verdict...technicalty may let him off completely without any physical jail time
Most law abiding country in the world.
Great Escape
OBSTRUCTION of Justice as well
From Senior Minister
The FANTASTIC Ruling Party
Blatant PAP Cover Up 🗣️💦
The bribe taker must take responsibility. Let's see action on the bribe giver.
No givers, no takers!
Remembering Teh Cheang Wan, who could not face LKY's scrutiny after he was investigated for corruption.
Even Singapore high salary could not deter corruption 😂. There must be more
Biggest but the jail term is amongst the smallest
Hope AGC will reconsider on its judicial practice as the whole world is watching
Thanks for the updates.
Guilty as charged ..he is damn lucky it has been amended ..to me it's a damn shame for such high elites to even need to go down this road ..what irks me most is that all this time he said he was innocent ...why then suddenly he says guilty but of cos to a far lesser charge...
Can a leopard 🐆 really change its spots within a few months' jail?
because he is able to plea guilty to much lesser charges & punishment
Very stupid of him doing/receive cheap gifts ended his career and reputation. Highly educated with a pea brain.
What Happened To The Monthly " REDUCED SALARY OF $8500 Which LEE HSIEN LOONG
SYMPATHETICALLY INSISTED ON GIVING HIM For Over A Year ? WHAT NO NEED TO PAP AAaaaaGH ? It 's PUBLIC FUNDS YOU KNOW ?NOT A GENEROUS DONATION FROM THE
EX PM 🗣️💦💦
The money was paid back.
You forgot he is still receiving his MP allowance of $140k+.
Wow. Is not a conventional bicycle... Is the lightest ever weight T Line titanium bicycle.. Close to $8000... So envy...
For a minister earning millions in salaries, it's just beyond an ordinary folk like me to understand why such greed or foolishness or pure stupidity for him to risk it all for some gifts. Like most cases , Initially denying all charges until legal fees debt started piling up
Must be punished I think we are slacking in our system since LKY not in charge too many inference pressure from ruling party so our AGC AND CPIB AND COURTS CANT DO A HONEST JOB
It's look like who is the accused it's not how much u take and why still not OBS and Lum are charge
Meanwhile in India a government bureaucrat has amassed 30 million usd via corruption just got suspension for 6 weeks and nolw is back to work again. Thats why we are a 3rd world country
Get all mp n ministers to declare their assets b4 appointment to cpib fm there they can have their assessment on each mp n minsters n do not over paid our ministers pack their salary n remuneration with the first world leaders n minister.The high salary implement by LKY to the minister is long gone cause at that time either they dont have people with mind or personality or they afraid n fear for being arrested .Anyway the ministers do not work alone they have many people working under each ministry.
Good idea, but then less people are willing to take up the post lol, indo can be an example, as any house member are required to declare, but they don’t
@@nunyabz9494 LKY n GJT era people are comfortable with their daily life n do not seek for office bearer but LSL n PM Wong are totally different fm the 21st century more are joining opposition party or incumbent cause allowance is high n is comfortable n can have other job,previously they are not allow n of course they want to improve the life of the people n if you are office bearer the status is totally different n their salary is the highest among the first world government,which I think do not justify
35 Corruption Charges Reduced To 5 🤗😁
If It Was PRITAM SINGH 🧔 - 35 Charges
Would Have Been INCREASED TO. 70
OR MORE 😭💦 🗣️💦😩
were the WP MPs ever charges in the TC case?
😂😂😂 a good one.
@@lamsunyong343they were always been sabotage, just to con the voters nia, so that voters will believe in the accusations and don't vote WP
Been living under the rock. Was he charged for returning favours.
Just because the AGC's legal opinion that the Court of Law might NOT view their evident as strong enough to convict S Iswaran as guilty of corruption, they changed their charges to a less charge in which S Iswaran pleaded GUILTY to. Question: Was there a plea bargaining between the AGC legal team and S Iswaran legal team? That often happen when it is a win-win for everyone. No? 🤔🤔🤔
Come on, we can infer that all these excuses and reasonings for the changes are part of the plea deal between the AG and the accused.
Still guilty, public scrutiny is even worse than losing in trial
Tell lie - max jail n plus double pinishment
The reason that the high salaries meant the civil servants are not inclined to pursue commercial activities and corruption to be dedicated to their work, is clearly falling apart. This very disconcerting revelation for all to look into and work on. Promises are made to be kept.
Maybe without the high salaries, there will be another 10 corruption cases pending. There is no such thing as corruption free. What is not acceptable is the short jail term!
You overrating Singapore on Corruption 😂😂😂😂😂
He never refused a good gifts or offer from clients / friends . It’s greed ! Exchanging favours- - its bribery ! Should be found guilty .
In my opinion all this is Bullshìt. "Had Iswaran not participated in the trip, his misconduct might have remained undiscovered." What a load of rubbish. All Ministers in charge of critical Ministries are under surveillance as a matter of routine. EVERYTHING that Iswaran did and took was known to Govt for many decades/years. The extremely detailed lists of services/items given to Iswaran shows that all along there have been people within the Govt and even employees within HPL and Lum Chang - who kept detailed records. Govt decided at one point that Iswaran had crossed the limit.
ya , agreed, we used to have peoples keeping tab at the cabinet level , not sure now still this SOP or not.
Saw an ad by a law firm,
"Just because you did it doesn't mean you're guilty."
Yup, it is stated in the Civil service protocol that a civil servant can accept gifts but must be declared to the office. In the first instance he should have outrightly rejected Ong's gifts..
Why not just have lunch and dinner with Ong instead of accepting gifts.?
Corruption exists in all societies. The question is what you do when you find out about it.
One country,one nation,
Two Systems and two types of laws punishments
Hahahaha
Still, some are more equal than others.
Losing his job over small flavours is not worth it.
Plus risks of jail time some more.
He’s born in India
Under the table exchanging gifts is Corruption
Now you know why the massive MRT break downs
He should know the
Code of Conduct
Put in place way back in 1954
Sooo happy he is going to jail....
IF LKY is still around today, He will order for a 10 year jail sentence on S Iswaran
You are a disgrace to Singapore and discrediting LKY to suggest that a PM can do that?
In ess than one year this case was concluded and sentence, This is how the judicial must work, We must learn from Singapore,
House of Cards....Who else is involved??? 🤔🤔🤔
Mayb just tips of an iceberg
Tha opposition member must asked the senior minister Lee Sien loong its isarwan the minister's is above the law only 7 months jailed the judge study law of the jungle should be removed from the supreme court.😢😢😢😢😢😢
Watch the next election in Singapore the result will tsrnished the Name of PAP that LKY build with his iron hand. I believed LKY will wake up from his grave. So singaporean a wake up call to vote for the opposition in November election. I dont think PAP will last for another decade.😢😢😢😢😢
The judge should be removed in Iswaran sentence for 7 months is all bias the judicial is corrupted.
The miinister's is highly paid dont tell me he cant afford to buy 14 bottle of fine wishkey' and a bike cyclec 700.00 and golf clubs. He is a clear greed.should not be sentence so lightly for 7 months plus minus good behivour the most he will be in prison for 4 months. Now l believed Lawrance wong the new PM must carry the bsby for Lee Sien Loong.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Good START
Why take the gifts since you know the gifts will make you suffer
What about OBS? He can walk free?
Our guess is that the prosecution don’t have a case against Ong Beng Seng and Lum Kok Seng. Section 165 applies to public servants accepting gifts but doesn’t penalize non-public servants from offering gifts. And since prosecution couldn’t prove that Iswaran had done any favours after receiving the gifts, it is unlikely the two men will be charged for corruption. Our two cents worth!
It’s not so riveting, it’s a stupid mistake done by someone who did not need to receive any of those “gifts”
Totally agreed.
Iswaran became too arrogant for his own good and got careless. I don't think he was necessarily corrupted but just got careless and realized too late of the folly of his actions and in attempting to cover up, it just got worse for him. The Singapore SOP is great for making their employees toe the line and at the same can also be used as a tool to get rid of their opponents
It's not careless it's corrupt and public trusts is gone
Just remember! "There is no free lunch! You will pay one way or the other"!
He is not an arrogant man by nature. distant family friend. Surprised he folded.
If these were the charges, I can't help but wonder how many politicians in Malaysia would be lining up for their day in court-probably need a bigger courtroom!
Malaysia biggest problems is CORRUPTION Capital Punishment is necessary
In Malaysia, in 2009 and 2015, two persons were permanently silenced. Mr.Teoh Beng Hock discovered the irregularities which leads to investigation by MACC and was found dead on the 14th floor of the anti corruption bureau building. At that time, Teoh BH was a political aide to the then-Selangor executive councilor Ean Yong.
Public prosecutor, Kevin Morais was found dead on one fateful day after family member found him unusually to return home late. Mr Morais never reached his house after leaving office on that day. Several months before his passing, he was involved in the investigation relating to high government officials.
Ai ya, u want to spend more money to build a courtroom meh?? Just use a football field can liao. Can use the Shah Alam stadium
Malaysia is a messed up county! Do u want such leadership???
@kamsiahg Corruption cases at the higher echelon of governance are kept at bay, and if necessary, it will be investigated by CPIP in Singapore. It is not so in Malaysia.
Nevertheless, there is no such thing as a perfect country. We are human society with complex thoughts and desires. It is a matter of decision making and the corresponding consequences. We reap what we sown. There are no such things as zero crime countries in reality. A perfect country but hypothetical.
" I think therefore I am." Translated from Latin, " cogito, ergo sum"
The 1st principle of Rene Descartes' philosophy.
What the statement is trying to convey is that if I doubt that I am doubting, then I am doubting, and if it is in fact the case that I am doubting, then it must be the case that I exist. It is important to see that this same type of analysis doesn't hold with other activities, such as walking.
In the case of S Iswaran's corruption charges, he denied the reason for accepting gifts in the past from Mr.Ong Beng Seng, which was a form of bribery act. Therefore, he doubted those gifts were a form of bribery after certified procurement of a certain contract to the other party. This case also involves OBS and the chairman of Lum Cheng Contractors.
What he received is what the authorities managed to find out. Do you think there might be more or maybe not...
If you work as a cashier in a bank and you just take a nickel out and return it later you are still a honest employee. Not guilty.
He can be bought.
look at his charges !!! will be reduce until low …🤔🤔🤔😢😢😢
How come giver not charged?
Takers especially civil servants will be charged!
AGC is still deciding whether to do so
POWER of $$$$$
It’s very difficult to determine whether that giver has offered to bribe or is forced to provide when, obviously, he isn’t the one with authority or power.
@@marktn9851 yup obviously both of them will not incriminate themselves. Not a straight forward case. If u have difficulty to secure a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt then it is better not to even start to charge
Well, when u hired an ex- member of parliment, can 'negotiate' better rite. Sg version of Najib & 1MDB, slap on the wrist.
Shame on you.
This would make a great conspiracy story........
Greedy and shame
Just side show 😂😂😂
Was he really corrupted.seeing other corrupt caßes no bribes were seen
Karma at its best.
One law for you and one law for my cronies and me. This is always the case everywhere.
Brompton bicycle. F1 tickets.
Nightmare for Iswaran now 😂
@nazurahaziz1424 only 12 mths sentence. If he maintains good conduct, he may be out in less than 12 mths.
Similar perks were deemed innocuous for the supreme Court justices of the US.
He's been given a fair trial. Move on.
It is by 'luck' that Iswaran was investigated because of CPIB's digging into OBS's case, else no one will ever know a minister is accepting gifts from a businessman.
So an extremely well paid minister does not mean he or she will not do such things.
Should the government employ undercover spies to monitor government officials, ministers and whistleblow on them, instead of 'by luck' such cases are found out ?
E is not wrong in this world you always receive free gifts from your rich friends because it's common! You can only charge a person for "helping or doing a big favor!" if receiving a free gift then there should be no road shows and free gifts for any shoppers! 😅😅😅😅 Own wife also can not accept free makan from brother inlaws😅😅😅 from relative 😅😅😅 see mahthir? 😅😅😅 Sons are billionaires 😅😅😅😅
He got free gifts plus free accommodation from a public business man not government 😂he did under table it's corruption
Pap cannot be trusted
..they have taken down the corruption charges...
Reminds me of ‘stand by bed stand by area’ in the army 😅
唉，只是坐一趟免费飞机而己，他应該是筱被人线害的，为什么王富豪在这困难时刻，没有出手相助而选择逃去英国躲起来呢. ?? 这要深思了！🤔🤔🤐🤐
not the first, definitely wouldn't be the last
hell knows how many other case waiting to be uncovered
Rich man world 🤑
Now that Iswaran has ben dealt with the next person to face the same punishment is Ong Beng Seng.
He is the perpetrator who schemed the whole charade so well, a truly slimy individual in our society.
The PAP government must punish and expel him from Singapore permanently, then I would say the PAP
is being fair to Iswaran and just in the eyes of Singaporeans and the world at large. Yes Iswaran brought
shame to his fellow Singaporeans through his greed and shameless behavior.
Does this guy have the IRON in him as what LKY was referring to? I dont mean the iron in the rolling stock which is not a laughing stock
Think some ppl were jealous,hence he had to pay:$380,000*Therefore his wife n fam does not need 2attend trial
Civil servant should be about providing a service to its nation and SGP should not mind paying them more than they deserve in order to get the “best man” for any posts. However, they should be penalised much greater in any case as such… a balance.
Ag shd say 6-7 years
Funny Singapore. Giving is encouraged but Giving is Corruption 😂😂😂
Give him his Taylor swift and F1 tickets, at least there was no train breakdown when he was MOT
He is not charged for corruption. Get the facts right.