Blueprint 101 - Using Micrometers, Calipers, & Bore Gauges

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • THESE MICROMETERS ARE PROPS. They're cheap, easy-to-read, and they were defective straight out of the box. They couldn't be calibrated. The graduated sleeve was seized up and rusted to the bodies of each one. They're also not accurate enough to measure taper or runout on a bearing journal which is necessary if you're rebuilding an engine. If you're going to rebuild an engine and you're not already familiar with these kinds of tools, this video is required material. None of your measurements mean anything if they're not accurate. I illustrate the calibration and use of 3 major tools needed for taking measurements, and a brief demonstration of how they work. These are by no means the ONLY ways to use or calibrate these tools. This is simply the method I will employ to measure parts in later videos so this instruction doesn't distract from their intended messages. Even if you're familiar with these tools, you may find something useful here, or even be able to correct me and my rusty skills.
    When I can afford a $1200 set of Micrometers, I'll re-make this video.

Комментарии • 128

  • @TheBartvdv
    @TheBartvdv 11 лет назад +20

    As a quality engineer, I have to make some comments on your measuring techniques.
    1. Your micrometer: You should use your reference piece to set it.
    And this is how it goes:
    Make sure all surfaces are clean. Tighten your micrometer with your reference piece in between. Read it. If it differs from your reference piece, you lock it, and then use the special wrench given in your kit to adjust it to whatever your reference piece say.

  • @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr
    @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr 9 лет назад +14

    Folks! Where is the love,this chap is helping us lesser knowledged occupants of earth a way to expand our miserably poor mental database,he has taken the time to make this video so please respect this.i am currently stuck in costa rica(not a bad thing),with a dead engine on a old diesel landcruiser,it has just been to the engineers and i am busy checking all his work before assembly,thanks for the video and I will look forward to more!.

  • @aetlas5000
    @aetlas5000 11 лет назад +5

    This is different than what I've learned. In the past, I was told to set the dial bore gauge to the spec. and any variation from that setting indicates over sized or undersized.

  • @zext0r
    @zext0r 11 лет назад +2

    I want to thank you Jafro, because i used the video's in this playlist at my Trade school to help explain to the other students in my class how to use these tools. It's a section in the course and they came in very handy and helped me pass my test on the subject of measurement and engine servicing!. My Teacher was very impressed!

  • @bobisthebuilder3982
    @bobisthebuilder3982 6 лет назад +2

    Quick tips.
    Most decent micrometers can be final calibrated adjusted of the spanner wrenches are included.
    Also, with budget calipers break off the thumb wheel. It helps with accuracy.

  • @Dino30ish
    @Dino30ish 10 лет назад

    You have no clue how much this video helped me understand the Dial Bore Gauge. I have a nice set of 3 that has been in my arsenal for a few years (passed down from my late uncle) . While in school to get my associates in automotive repair I took this set of tools to my teacher to see if we would use them and if he could explain it to me .... Needless to say during the 2 years of class's none of my teachers would explain how this works or show me how to use it (Not even my engine building class , because most "students" can afford this style tool)................ Thank You .... Now I can use one of the best tools in my arsonal ......

  • @turningpoint6643
    @turningpoint6643 7 лет назад +6

    Well it was a pretty good video about how the equipment works, but at the very best even Mitutoyo or Starrett will only guarantee there far better dial and digital calipers to around .002". With a lot of experience and double checking yourself with gauge blocks they can usually do a bit better than that if your careful. But the way digital calipers work is the last digit will always be a 0 or 5 since the internals round off the last number unless you get into a couple of the very expensive specialty European brands of digitals that supposedly will do down to .0001". The number of digits to the right of the decimal point is called resolution, or how the tool is numbered. It's actual accuracy is completely different.Setting a bore gauge with any of the 3 types of the more common calipers is pretty much worthless for any dependable accuracy when your trying for .001". Even a top quality .0001" reading micrometer is still only guaranteed to + - one count. The only two common ways most of us would have access to for accurately setting bore gauges would either be by very expensive certified ring gauges, or second best a good set of gauge blocks. Check with any good engine machine shop and they'll say the same. And any good shop will also have those ring gauges for checking and setting there bore gauges. Probably about the very best bore gauges available would be Sunnen with a price to match. Almost everything I've said here can be verified on Starrett's or Mitutoyo's websites with a bit of searching. Measuring reliably to .001" is a whole lot more complicated than it first seems. .Down to 0001" takes an order of magnitude more. As a rough double check on what an engine machine shop did then yes I guess you could figure on being within maybe .005" with the way it's shown here. And I certainly don't mean any of this as being critical of your video.
    A Google search for metrology, uncertainty of measurement, and the difference between resolution verses accuracy will teach anyone a lot if there interested.

  • @gradertfamilymakes
    @gradertfamilymakes 13 лет назад

    Oh damn. I see big things coming. It's a huge commitment. I wish you luck, I just started a video of installing a Saturn 105 amp Alternator in a DSM. I got about to the point where I was shaving little by little to get it to sit flat on the bracket and I stopped recording. Though I have most of the footage complete. I gave up as the car is a DD and needed to be finished. It takes a lot of effort to make these videos. Thanks for your DSM contributions.

  • @brucewilliams6292
    @brucewilliams6292 4 года назад

    Nicely done. Thank you for the explanation. Your video is one of the few that make sense to me as to how to measure a bore with a dial bore gauge.

  • @iexploderacoons
    @iexploderacoons 13 лет назад

    I had a quiz today on micrometers in auto! Weird coincidence, we measured brake rotors, a cylinder on a Honda block, and tons of other random stuff! Well explained and as always great vid!

  • @BryantKieu
    @BryantKieu 13 лет назад

    Jafro its me again. The guy from the clutch adjustment video. Just want to thank you for this one! Could not have come at a better time. My car overheated the other day and boom goes the head gasket. Spark plug wires are melted into the head. So I am assuming the head is gone. I'm going to be ripping it apart soon and checking it out. Just haven't had the time. Cant wait for the next videos!

  • @melissawilliams7409
    @melissawilliams7409 3 года назад

    Using a dial bore gauge like this seems counter productive. This is the more common and more accurate method: Set a micrometer (unless you have a ring gauge or bore gauge calibration tool) to the specification for the bore and clamp it gently in a vise by the frame. Let's say our bore specification is 4". Select the right adapters and shims to get dial bore gauge head length close to that 4" and then place the dial bore gauge into the micrometer set to 4". Rock the bore gauge it to find the centered value, hold it there, and zero the dial bore gauge by turning the face of the gauge so that the zero is under the needle. This zeros the gauge so now when you place it into the cylinder to be checked you have a base reading already and you don't have to do any math. Hope that makes sense. Setting it up the way it is in the video adds steps and more chance of errors. I have never seen anyone do it like that.

  • @BoostedBeaverGarage
    @BoostedBeaverGarage 13 лет назад

    I tried to find a digital gauge when I was doing my build and it would have been invaluable, but I had to purchase the Micrometers, Board gauge, and digital calipers all at the same time. Great explanation on how to zero the gauges. It took me hours of searching and reading to figure out what you taught in 10 min.
    FWIW there is an event (Import shootout) at Virginia Motorsports Park this weekend. Come by if you are around. I will be trying to scratch my way to the winners circle.

  • @lathiat
    @lathiat 13 лет назад

    This looks like the start of an engine building series.. go jafro.. looking forward to it!

  • @gradertfamilymakes
    @gradertfamilymakes 13 лет назад

    @Jafromobile Indeed. Even for a refurb autozone alternator. Lifetime warranty you can't beat. The gentleman told me that as long as I kept the alt in good shape after "Machining" it to fit. He could pass it off as a normal one and do a free replacement. Can't beat that.

  • @vanessamarie6589
    @vanessamarie6589 Год назад

    Thank you for this video. It's very resourceful.

  • @TheBartvdv
    @TheBartvdv 11 лет назад

    2 The caliper: please don't use this for any correct measuring. This is ok to check general tolerances. But when it comes to engines building specs, there's far more precise tools you should use.
    3. The bore gauge: setting it should be done with a reference ring (ideally), or with a micrometer.
    Easiest way is to have the exact same dimension like the bore to measure.
    Assemble the bore gauge to fit that dimension (as you explained very well)

  • @dsmandparty1225
    @dsmandparty1225 10 лет назад

    Aha finally can message I thank ye for the DSM Motor build knowledge. I soon hope to start restoring my 1989/90 AWD TSi. It's going to take a lot of time. I have a lot panels to replace and a new harness maybe and I would like to go as far as re-installing the factory emissions. Then slowly start adding to it. Kinda like Tom's Project Sleeper but with factory 14b.

  • @michaelovitch
    @michaelovitch 13 лет назад

    Temperature.
    All tools and parts must be at the same temperature around 20°C.
    they are at the factory and they should in your shop.
    otherwise you will never have a consistent and accurate measurment.
    important to remember when you work in a garage or if your parts are stored outside......

  • @Alex3000GT
    @Alex3000GT 10 лет назад +1

    Cool. Just learned how to use my new Christmas gifts. Thanks!

  • @jl2un
    @jl2un 13 лет назад

    Dude, No Homo but i love you! These videos that you're about to make are going to be so educational for me and the rest of the world ! Great Job!

  • @Bevoin1970
    @Bevoin1970 13 лет назад

    Wow, this was brilliant, just like I was back at college learning my Toolmaking trade. I was always going to make a video like this once upon a time, but never did, I still have all my Mics. One snag, I needed to see the thimble up close to see the graduations on the Mic, I couldn't see them, which means if I was a complete beginner I would struggle a little. Its only my opinion. I love this topic, I could go on... ha ha Great video, 5*

  • @SimpliCharts
    @SimpliCharts 10 лет назад

    Thank you so much! Going out to buy my first bore gauge & this was very informative!

  • @jtmagicman25
    @jtmagicman25 12 лет назад

    just so you know, @ 3:36, use the very end of the caliper and it will be more accurate. You are supposed to take the measurement from the part with a blade cut in, the other part is not the same.

  • @KangaMotorsports
    @KangaMotorsports 8 лет назад

    Thanks for your videos they inspired me to make some while rebuilding my Datsun 240z motor

  • @TheBartvdv
    @TheBartvdv 11 лет назад

    Now, rock it left to right(so towards tip and back),while giving slight angular adjustments(+ and -)
    And as we're in a circle right now, and you are looking for your diameter(on that line)
    You need to look for the the smallest dimension with the rocking lef to right, but the largest with your angular adjustments.(Imagine yourself in a cylinder, and you have to point out the exact diameter).
    There is no such thing as taking an average for any exact measurement. At a point the gauge will tell you.

  • @XBLoganSX
    @XBLoganSX 13 лет назад

    You use the telescoping bore gauge, measure it with the micrometer then zero the dial bore gauge in the micrometer and use it for reference to see what the size of the bore is.

  • @red666A
    @red666A 11 лет назад

    I have been told that you can use telescopic gauge to measure inside cylinder wall and measure it with micrometer. I'm not use of using the dail bore gauge. I have dial bore guage and i use it measure the clyinder but sometime i don't know which guide i need to use because all engine block clyinder head have different sizes and sometimes i might measure wrong. Dial bore gauge complicated sometimes..

  • @jajajaja2006
    @jajajaja2006 10 лет назад +2

    Love your videos! keep making em.

  • @John4566442
    @John4566442 12 лет назад

    Might want to take another look at those micrometers. The spanner should fit a lock nut and into a small hole on or near your scale. Once the lock nut is loosened, the scale should be able to be rotated. Even my cheap import micrometer can be adjusted. The standards included in your set are used for the 1" and larger micrometers to set to zero using the spanners. If your's cannot be adjusted, then you have a very strange set of micrometers and if it were me, I'd sell them and get something else.

  • @masonhoughland1215
    @masonhoughland1215 10 лет назад

    When you order from MSC, go all digital or all mechanical. You will give yourself a headache using both. MSC has the best stuff and I love the Big Blue Book, but when you find what you want, try the part numbers at other places on the internet and you will definitely be able to save some money.

  • @Sandbag1300
    @Sandbag1300 10 лет назад

    Great video. I have that digital caliper and have found it only accurate to only .01".

  • @wwcrxww
    @wwcrxww 6 лет назад +1

    "1.9995 ... welcome to A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A" LMAO! I love how you sneak these witty remarks and stuff in some of your videos.. I'll be completely focused on what your explaining and the next thing you know I'm blowing a 1.9995 on a breathalyzer lol. Keep educating me, you have a way of holding my attention.. other videos are dull, boring and drawn out..

  • @patrickbradford6223
    @patrickbradford6223 6 лет назад +1

    Jafro- Usually I agree with you. However The way you accounted for the inaccuracy of the caliper was incorrect. The last digit displayed is always uncertain... So really, with both your calipers and mic's the 0.001 is the uncertain digit. With the dial bore gauge the uncertain number is in the 1 ten thousandths place. Setting up a dial bore gauge with a less precise caliper is not good practice. You should use a micrometer with a similar or finer resolution.

  • @michaelovitch
    @michaelovitch 13 лет назад

    @Jafromobile
    Thanks but i'm not brilliant.
    i'm just a random dumbass who try to go a bit further.
    i've visited a machining shop and talked a bit with the cool owner
    temperature is an important part but often forgotten that' why i made a comment on it (and the winter is coming so...)
    Happy to know that you have a thermal expansion vid it's very interesting yet.
    the problem is you don't know as a viewer what it's prepared or what vid will follow.

  • @sanghametrology4656
    @sanghametrology4656 11 лет назад

    One type of system not seen here is the three point bore gauge system as manufactured by Sangha Metrology.
    See this on

  • @santiagotorres3883
    @santiagotorres3883 9 лет назад

    thank you, this helps me alot with measurements. you have good teaching skills. any new engine building videos coming?

  • @slimhavoc4290
    @slimhavoc4290 4 года назад

    Very helpful thanks man

  • @zeferrum
    @zeferrum 10 лет назад

    very informative, useful information! Great to learn from

  • @KenFerris
    @KenFerris 12 лет назад

    If I used the same standard to test more than one micrometer for accuracy and found that each mic was off by the same amount I'd suspect the standard - especially if it had been dropped and mishandled as this fellow did right on the tape.

  • @DrJerryrigger
    @DrJerryrigger 13 лет назад

    @Jafromobile You can get some cheap used mics at flea markets or ebay. Just get a good brand (I like Starrett), and you should be able to measure to +/- one tenth (that's 0.0001) with out any problem.
    I guess you could zero it with your mic's and a short probe and just switch in a longer one. Still not ideal, but maybe a little better.

  • @billygarduno9347
    @billygarduno9347 10 лет назад +1

    You say it is off 14 thousanth but when I do the math it comes to 3.3474-3.3460=
    .0014 and thats not 14 thousanth of an inch is it?

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  10 лет назад +7

      No, it's not 14 thousandths. You should try making a video sometime. It's an awful lot to keep track of ensuring I'm in the shot while talking un-scripted to an invisible audience, operating a camera, fiddling with what's on the workbench, what I need to grab next... etc... it's maddening. Most people forgive minor instances like this, but those who continually feel the need to correct me are why I don't do live narrations anymore. It's tripled the time associated with my production, but now I do each one of those things in layers so that I'm not multi-tasking on-camera while dealing with technical details.

  • @mazzmari
    @mazzmari 13 лет назад

    High quality video, Jafro

  • @TrueBlueEG8
    @TrueBlueEG8 13 лет назад

    Jesus , its about time, i was wondering if you were still alive! Good video man, look forward to seeing more from you, and id love to see that colt running! I have a question for you, any idea how to get the diagnostic codes out of a 2003 carisma, it should have a 16 pin eodb plug but i cant find it, its a 1.3 petrol engine, 5speed manual, maybe you can shed some light, i would really appreciate it!

  • @crystalbarickman
    @crystalbarickman 5 лет назад

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @laserspeeddemon
    @laserspeeddemon 12 лет назад

    Mr Jafro,
    It may be helpful if you post links to where you can buy the products you are featuring in the video's description.

  • @benjaminsorenson3183
    @benjaminsorenson3183 3 года назад

    When you measure the probes are you supposed to compress the end piece or is the correct mesurment without the end piece compressed?

  • @TriniRogue
    @TriniRogue 7 лет назад

    Question, when you do a bore/hone you use a torque plate to ensure perfect roundness of the cylinder wall when the engine is all together, my question is should you take the measurements with a torque plate on the engine to check for egg shaped warping or it doesnt matter?

  • @jomjast8861
    @jomjast8861 11 лет назад +1

    Hi jafro, its me again jom. hehehe. have a question, i removed my oil jet squirters (2g) to have it cleaned using ultrasonic method since im having problems looking for a replacement parts here in the Philippines, is there a way to check if its working in a good condition? any specs that i should check? thanks again!!

  • @1014ans
    @1014ans 8 месяцев назад

    I don't get it. How is it that the digital calippers are off if it was the micrometer being off?

  • @jayosborne1565
    @jayosborne1565 7 лет назад +1

    mastering your bore gauge off of a silly digi mic was not a good idear...
    i'm sure it was done for video sake, but snapping the gauge at multiple heights & perpendiculars will give a good idea of taper and roundness!

  • @iexploderacoons
    @iexploderacoons 13 лет назад

    @Jafromobile I find that I learn faster and better methods and techniques when I experiment and learn on my own. Auto isn't fun for me anymore because just a few people in there work including myself.

  • @PhunkBustA
    @PhunkBustA 5 лет назад

    2:30 just idk there reference cant be entirely accurate unless measured at the proper reference temperature aswell (idk usually somewher around ambient temp but yeah weather and all..)

  • @aleks138
    @aleks138 13 лет назад

    I have the same exact micrometer set, but I've never figured out what that double sided hook is for? it's the weird piece by the 1" and 2" reference rods.
    Thanks

  • @tecnoaddicted
    @tecnoaddicted 8 лет назад +1

    hi and congrats for the very useful video. dear, how could you measure inner diameter or valve guides? i mean for motorbikes, that usually have valve stems from 4.0 to 5.0 mm diameter and valve guide accordingly. are you aware or bore gauges able to measure such tiny diameters? or shoul we use " pass non-pass" calibrated cilinders? thanks again and great video! cheers from italy.

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  8 лет назад

      +Alberto Gulmini It's a dial-gauge type inside micrometer. Those things are crazy expensive. Machine shops have a justifiable reason to buy them, but the average back yard mechanic does not. They usually start at around $300 and only go up from there. The last method you mentioned can work, but they don't measure taper. Usually a valve guide wears un-evenly, so taper actually does matter.

    • @tecnoaddicted
      @tecnoaddicted 8 лет назад

      Hi and thanks for the answer. here in italy these stuffs costs " quite a lot" but not that much.as you may know can you suggest me some brands that manifacture dial gauges for so small inner diameters? thanks

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  8 лет назад

      There is one tool called a "split ball gauge" or "split ball probe". If you have a set of .0001" or .005mm micrometers, you could get by with those. Mitutoyo and Starrett are my favorite brands regarding quality, but you don't need expensive probes as badly as you would need expensive micrometers. The split ball gauges are much more affordable than the dedicated dial-type valve guide inside mics.

    • @tecnoaddicted
      @tecnoaddicted 8 лет назад

      +Jafromobile ohhh yessss Thanks. i found around the net what you say. Thanks mate

  • @jordanhurley5146
    @jordanhurley5146 3 года назад

    If i bought one of these can i attach the gauge to a magnetic stand to do other measurements?

  • @red666A
    @red666A 11 лет назад

    I was wondering how you set your dial bore gauge? Do you set it at zero then insert into the cylinder wall and move side to side to get it correct measurment, is this correct? Isn't the dial gauge similar the dail bore gauge?

  • @Chuffin_ell
    @Chuffin_ell 10 лет назад

    Thank you, thank you, thank you....

  • @wheelerwheels
    @wheelerwheels 13 лет назад

    Good stuff!

  • @sivucit
    @sivucit 12 лет назад

    hi, i think the wear is 14 10,000 of an inch not 14 000 of an inch.. please advise it is (3.3474 - 3.3460) gets .0014 . you can see this at 9.58 run tim of ur show. I may be wrong, pls comment. Second to go with digital guage, i assume you just change Dial guage with Digital guage and use same adapter, avnils etc. is that right.

  • @omranimounir2999
    @omranimounir2999 4 года назад

    According to what i can the specified spacers of bore gauge

  • @ThatDanDude
    @ThatDanDude 9 лет назад

    Excellent video, but suppose I want to check my lifter bore? Those are pretty small and even though that is a good tool I'm pretty sure that it won't fit that small of a bore so is there an alternative?

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  9 лет назад +1

      ThatDanDude They make smaller snap gauges than mine. I just have an ultra-cheap set.
      There are also a few dial-type units that can measure teeny-tiny holes like valve stems. I don't think they'd even measure anything as big as a lifter, and you have to be made of money to buy them. Even the old-skool units are crazy expensive, usually more expensive. If anyone reading this receives one handed down to you from grandpa, don't ever sell it, and don't think it's just some crappy tool. Everyone who rebuilds a cylinder head wants them, needs them, but usually rely on blind luck when presented with the price tag. Grandpa might not have sold the farm to buy it, but he might be missing a few cows.

  • @adamryanclark
    @adamryanclark 13 лет назад

    When you going to do a video on the tear down on your motor.

  • @red666A
    @red666A 11 лет назад

    Dial bore gauge get me confuse than the dail caliper and micrometer. How do i know which guide do i need to use for measuring cylinder? Or do just play with it

  • @jonathaneriksson2413
    @jonathaneriksson2413 10 лет назад

    when i push that very little buttom type this at the bottom the needle moves

  • @bobisthebuilder3982
    @bobisthebuilder3982 6 лет назад

    Most inexpensive sets are accurate to 0.0005 or five (tenths) a tenth is one tenth of one thousandth of an inch.

  • @O-Ben
    @O-Ben 11 лет назад

    i always fail on bore gauge.. i don't know why my tutor do it look easy..but in my hand, i always get diff result.

  • @dunxy
    @dunxy 4 года назад

    Dont by cheap measuring stuff guys,sure you CAN get by with some cheaper items but when it comes to measuring i have a no-crap-tools policy! I see SOO many people overpaying for brand new chinese junk it makes me cringe! Cheapest chinese dial caliper on eGay is about $25AUD here, ive seen used Mitutoyo stuff sell as cheap as $15 with my cheapest being $28.10AUD (including shipping!) that are seriously mint inside case with ligth wear on case, im talking older Japanese made stuff without plastic housings as well,i personally steer clear of current production stuff as too much plastic.Why buy chineesium? I not long bought a boxed un-used (NOS)set of 6 Mitutoyo mics with standards for only like $100 more than a chinese set would sell for here,$100 over 6 mics is FUCKALL to pay to go from chinesium to vintage japanese quality. Other stuff i recently got was boxed mitutoyo bore guage(17 to 35mm IIRC) mint condition complete in case all accessories and paperwork, plastic still on id label on the bore gauge extension tube thingy (lol i dont know its name!) i think that was $180 and a boxed NOS depth gauge with all the rods for i think only $120aud. You dont have to spend the earth (prices in my local weaker currency,convert to yours and take into account stuff is generally more expensive here in Australia) if you hunt around.I bought a nice dial indicator from an ebay seller who stocks crazy amount of vintage stuff and threw his card in, all that came from the one guy.

  • @Jafromobile
    @Jafromobile  10 лет назад +12

    +SamDearn it's *you're
    It helps if you're insulting someone's intelligence that you use proper grammar and punctuation. Just for the record, you've been banned.

    • @Kj16V
      @Kj16V 9 лет назад +1

      ***** Aww! How are we supposed to give numpties the abuse they deserve if you ban them?! :D

    • @Bryan_Kay
      @Bryan_Kay 8 лет назад

      lol

  • @John4566442
    @John4566442 12 лет назад

    Did a search on Harbor Freights website and found your micrometer set. One of the reviewers said they don't come with instructions. No wonder.
    Cen-Tech - Item#66512, right?
    The reviews mentioned calibrating them using the supplied standards or gauge blocks. Double check for a nut and hole that the spanner fits into. If you send me pics I might be able help you figure it out.

  • @DrJerryrigger
    @DrJerryrigger 13 лет назад

    It's a shame to zero your most accurate tool to your calipers. Would be nice to have a set of 3-4 mics, but you could measure out the attachments with your mics and add them up. Though that gets messy.

  • @jonathaneriksson2413
    @jonathaneriksson2413 10 лет назад

    one thing i don't get is that i saw in a couple of other videos they said to set the dial bore gauge to the cylinder bore specifikations but you seem to set it a little bit bigger which way is right????

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  10 лет назад

      The best way to do it is to measure the piston with a micrometer, lock it, and use that micrometer to zero the dial bore gauge. When you take your measurements, the result on the gauge IS your piston to cylinder wall gap. ;)
      Add that to the size of the piston, and that's your bore diameter.

  • @jonathaneriksson2413
    @jonathaneriksson2413 10 лет назад

    this might be a stupid question but if the needle doesn't move around is the bore gauge broke or have a set it wrong

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  10 лет назад

      Make sure the gauge is inserted far enough to reach the plunger. Make sure the tool on the probe end is jigged up with the right spacers which make it slightly bigger than the hole. It only reads measurements as the probe is compressed.

  • @berockization
    @berockization 11 лет назад

    Can't you just zero the micrometer? I just did mine by twisting the fixed vernier barrel with the included tool... (Awesome videos BTW!)

  • @glideamerica
    @glideamerica Год назад

    If both tools measure the same reference at the same .0005 perhaps your reference is the thing that is off.

  • @edbrown1080
    @edbrown1080 4 года назад

    It has the wrench to calibrate mic,

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  4 года назад +1

      The barrel was rusted to the mic so that it wouldn't turn straight out of the box, brand new. Blame saltwater and shipping from China. Junk. Should never have bought them even as a prop.

  • @jesseduke694
    @jesseduke694 3 года назад

    I can see this is from 9 yrs ago. You do understand your reference for what the graduations are is not correct. .0001 the first number is tenths of a thousandth, 2nd is thousandths, 3rd is tenths, 4th is hundredth, then of course on the left side of decibel would be inches. So you were looking for a bore of 3.7460 & you got 3.3474 that would be 3inches 3hundred & forty-seven thousandths & 4 tenths. Im not trien to be to critical, I just thought it should be clarrified for others that may view & not know.

    • @jesseduke694
      @jesseduke694 3 года назад

      P.s. the confusing part might be that there are tenths & there are tenths of a thousandths. Thenths are .01 witch is ten one thousandths. & tenths of a thousands are .0001 witch that would be one tenths of just one thousandths. Im probably making some people more confused. I never knew how hard it is to explain using only typing.

  • @meocats
    @meocats 8 лет назад

    how much travel does the bore gage have? not the dial that it comes with.

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  8 лет назад

      +meocats About twice the range of the gauge (gauge is graduated to .0500" movement but it goes a little higher than 500 and lower than 0). The bore gauge has attachments for measuring bores up to 6".

  • @jasonjones7321
    @jasonjones7321 2 года назад

    not to whip a dead horse here but your wear was .0014 which is fourteen tenths of a thousandth of and inch, not 14 thou (.014)

    • @jasonjones7321
      @jasonjones7321 2 года назад

      oops didnt realize this point had already been made to the point of breaking the op, sorry sir, it was a excellent video made it easy for me the machinist to explain to my non machinist friend how this tool was setup and used in a case where you didnt have ring gauges to master the tool off of

  • @jonathaneriksson2413
    @jonathaneriksson2413 10 лет назад

    well when i compress the probe the needle is completely still

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  10 лет назад

      Usually the gauge is clamped into the handle. If you look at the thumbnail for this video, you'll see the gauge in the box, separate from the handle. It has to be pushed deep enough to contact the plunger on the dial gauge.

  • @John4566442
    @John4566442 12 лет назад

    Check out MrPete222 Machine Shop Tips Number #21 for further information on how to use a micrometer, including the proper way to zero it.

  • @TrueBlueEG8
    @TrueBlueEG8 13 лет назад

    @Jafromobile Aw, you made me feel bad then, i was just kidding with you! Sorry about your technological problems, your poor eclipse included, hope shit starts to look up for you soon!

  • @jonathaneriksson2413
    @jonathaneriksson2413 10 лет назад

    okay thanks

  • @driftadjiev
    @driftadjiev 10 лет назад

    the minimum reading is not 0,005, the minimum is 0,001 as it says. How ever, this problem what u have discovered means that reading is starting little bit late (or earlier) :)

  • @olivierblochet6430
    @olivierblochet6430 10 лет назад

    Nice, how could you do that with inches ....Ce n'est déjà pas si facile en métric, je n'aurais jamais pu utiliser des comparateurs ext ou int avec ces horribles inches perso.
    Quelle chance d'etre né en france (je plaisante.. ;-) )
    Belle explication

  • @davidpesarchick5483
    @davidpesarchick5483 8 лет назад

    looking for a good set of micrometers a middle of the road set any thoughts

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  8 лет назад

      Go to MSCdirect dotcom, and search 06400865. There's middle of the road. The same size Mitutoyo set you've seen me use in other videos is $875 new. The ones in this video are instructional props.

  • @adamwagner1059
    @adamwagner1059 7 лет назад

    how do you get a .05 spacer for the bore gauge?

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  7 лет назад

      That's a great question. My bore gauge came with one, and I dropped it on my floor. It rolled to ? Have no idea where... my garage got cleaned several times looking for it. One day I found it in a pile of debris I had swept up and mine has been re-united with the set once again. I don't know where you can get a replacement short of buying a new bore gauge?

  • @MrTurbo4G63T
    @MrTurbo4G63T 13 лет назад

    bought all the tools at harbor freight eh??

  • @1kleineMax1
    @1kleineMax1 11 лет назад

    A digital caliber that is accurate to 0.0005? h, even in inches i dont believe so :D
    I would more trust the mic

  • @Shovelheads4ever
    @Shovelheads4ever 4 года назад

    Where to even begin I understand you want to help ppl learn but everything I seen here is wrong a calibrate the mic that's what the supplied wrench and standards are for second calipers are NOT an accurate measurement device use mics to set the bore gauge and set it to zero at the desired measurement and then you check the bore off of that in which once the bore gauged has been set and zeroed for example at let's say 3.5000 inches you angle it into your bore until it reaches the largest number on the dial gauge before it begins to fall back off and that number be it on the zero you set or however far deviated from that is the correct bore measurement sorry to leave a negative comment but this is going to completely screw up people who don't know and if you attempt to do it this way you need to either a look into channels such as abom79 or suburban tool to see the correct way to measure with precision tools or take it to a reputable machine shop to do for you I own my own shop and build and rebuild Harley motors and have seen first hand the devastation on several occasions that can take place because of guys watching a RUclips video and doing things the wrong way because they wanted to learn and we're misinformed

  • @playa220022
    @playa220022 11 лет назад

    micrometers and vernier cals are easy but i hate bore guages_-_

  • @theonlyalan731
    @theonlyalan731 6 лет назад

    Rather than a bore gage, I just use regular telescoping snap gauges and mic them.

  • @jbradley920rox
    @jbradley920rox 7 лет назад

    hey jaffro, I'm having an issue...
    so I'm measuring a Subaru ej257, stock bore 99.5 mm= 3.917 inch. I used the 4' extension. I keep getting. 165 as my reading pretty much all the way around, but my math is leading me to 3.9835' which leads to over 101 mm but that can't be right the Max bore is 100 mm... lil help?

    • @jbradley920rox
      @jbradley920rox 7 лет назад

      now I took my extension, measures to 4 inches. took my reading number and subtracted reading number from extension number. is that correct?

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  7 лет назад

      No. Best way to do it is... measure your piston and lock your micrometer. Set up the dial bore gauge and zero it to the measurement of your piston. Measure the bore. Add the measurement of the piston to the value measured on the dial bore gauge. There's your cylinder bore ID. The value on the dial bore gauge is your piston-to-cylinder wall clearance. Both measurements in 2 steps.

    • @jbradley920rox
      @jbradley920rox 7 лет назад

      OK will do thank you

    • @jbradley920rox
      @jbradley920rox 7 лет назад

      I feel so dumb sometimes lol. So I'm a bit lost with this thing. My piston is at 3.89. I set it to 3.89 on the dial indicator. Upon doing that my readings then were. 015-.0215
      The readings are getting bigger as I go down the cylinder, and there is a point where my bore gauge has trouble staying on the walls when measuring closer to the bottom of the cylinder. My readings are varying to 3.91 which is in spec, the bottom I'm getting. 0215, which 3.891( piston) + .0215 ( bottom reading) = 4.105 '= over 100 mm which means my case halves are extravagant paperweights smh...

    • @jbradley920rox
      @jbradley920rox 7 лет назад

      Fyi I'm certain my anvil is correct because it's a 4' setting on a 3.9179 spec cylinder. Any suggestions would be fantastic and thanks for your help!

  • @russell76531
    @russell76531 13 лет назад

    nice :D

  • @Boodins
    @Boodins 9 лет назад

    What brand are your micrometers?

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  9 лет назад +1

      Boodins I no longer own a set of Micrometers. The ones in this video I gave away. They're junk. Props. Harbor Freight. Nothing at Harbor Freight has the accuracy necessary for engine assembly. All these did is let me get a rough idea of what I was sending out for precision work. The sleeve with the printed graduation was rusted solid to the barrel and it couldn't be rotated. I broke the spanner trying to adjust them and threw them in the trash can. A friend of mine said he wanted them, and I said "okay, there they are, you can dig them out of the trash".
      A different friend who lives near by has a complete set of Mitutoyo's, and now when I need Mics, I make a phone call. You can't go wrong with Starret or Mitutoyo.

    • @usherly
      @usherly 9 лет назад

      +Jafromobile
      Or Moore and Wright
      I picked up 2-3" and 3-4" mics in 0.0001" graduations for $120 AUD for both from the UK

  • @djdarkmunk
    @djdarkmunk 13 лет назад

    hey ya back :) i got a new vid you should see

  • @speedfreak247
    @speedfreak247 11 лет назад

    Don't use digital precision measuring tools!!!!! If you go to any top nascar engine shop they never use digital measurement tools for engines. Digital angle meters are ok. But when we are measuring oil clearances in the range of 0.0015 to 0.003. An error of 0.0005 is common with digital tools of comparable prices. Google Precision & accuracy.

  • @shellyalibangbang3314
    @shellyalibangbang3314 7 лет назад

    regarding to ur block gage u have to use two words a thousand or a hundred because u confuse the new learner ,,

    • @Jafromobile
      @Jafromobile  7 лет назад +1

      .01" is hundredth. .001" is thousandth. On the dial bore gauge, it reads .0001", which is ten-thousandths. I''m not trying to confuse anyone.

    • @shellyalibangbang3314
      @shellyalibangbang3314 7 лет назад

      k.... thanks :)

  • @Maxi_jedd
    @Maxi_jedd 4 года назад

    Welcome to aaaaaaaa aaaaaaa 😂🤣

  • @traqnsavov822
    @traqnsavov822 3 года назад

    omg all wrong, look at other videos of how it is done..