No, Hip Hop is BLACK AMERICAN culture. Yall act as if New York is really an Island separate from the other blacks. See, blacks have a thing called Family Reunions, where we’d share culture, the new dances, while coming together as a family. To say that was isolated in the Bronx is 🧢
@@Assata_Shakur that's not Hip-Hop culture. The flavor, that flow, the style, is 100% NYC. Bombing trains, MC/DJ crews, B-Boy battles, etc. We brought our flavor to the world, and Black Culture ADOPTED elements of NYC culture, in order to identify with US!!!!
@@Assata_ShakurI can tell your not from NY especially the Bronx, for you other blacks not from NY telling a Rican from NY especially the Bronx that hip hop is not there culture sounds really stupid
My Brother, I just came across this video. On the subject matter you broke it DOWN….There were definitely Lations down with the get down. There alot of new heads and wanna be historians telling a different story. Peace and blessings 😎✊🏿
No one said Puerto Ricans did not support hip hop in the late 1960s & early 1970s & . Black Americans/ F.B.A.(s)/ A.D.O.S. r saying they created hip hop.
Yea Joe is buggin. The performers of Hip Hop were 95% black 5% New York Ricans. NOT Puerto Rican, NEW YORK RICANS. the crowd was like 65% black 35% New York Ricans.
@@luiscaban3301 That's just Rap. If we're gonna look at Hip-Hop culture, as a WHOLE, it's more like 75/25. 25 being Black. The rest were Hispanics, Caribbeans, and even some Whites. Don't be pandering to these clowns, bro. They will take whatever you say, outta context, make a video, and say some bullshit about you. These are outsiders, that don't know shit, about the culture.
@@luiscaban3301 sir what I’m saying is that “hip hop “ as culture was already rolling. Cold crush and the formation of “hip hop “ groups was something that came a few years later. When hip hop started it was no groups, and I believe hip hop first mc was coke la rock. No cold crush, crash crew, funky four none of them.
@@deefunkstrong7818 I understand exactly what you are saying. But it’s my opinion that those things are elements of hip-hop. I’m not saying that nobody said rhymes before Melle Mel. But what I’m saying is that the MC came to the forefront of hip-hop culture when Mel started writing because flash invented the quick mix theory. So they were people before that, but they were all saying short nursery rhymes and hyping up the crowd. Once flash created the quick theory, Mel was right there, and he was the one who switched it from a party Rapper New York City MC splitting and not just chants. So I agree that the elements of hip-hop were around before 1976 but most of it was just playing music with two turntables which is not necessarily hip-hop. Saying short little rhymes like Muhammad Ali but that was not hip-hop yet. Thank you for having an actual conversation and not just Being confrontational. I understand your point. I’m just saying that in my mind hip-hop was born in 1977 and as soon as it was born, they were Puerto Rican MCS and DJs contributing to the culture. It’s hard for me to hear people talk like they know because I was there watching and there was no difference between blacks and Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans were there contributing to the culture. If we have to use the word create, then there were only six people who actually created it and they were all black. But they were not all FBA. And if we only count those six people then that would mean that a person like grandmaster, Caz is not a creator of hip-hop? Rapping Existed before he started doing it, but he still contributed to it.
I CLEARLY stated it was NOT Puerto Rican culture. I CLEALY said it was BLACK, NEW YORK CULTURE. But the Puerto Ricans that were in New York helped create that culture prior to most Black people around the world and the rest of the country. So it was NYC culture. And Puerto Ricans we’re a part of that. CREATORS. WHIPPER WHIP, RUBY D, DEVASTATING TITO, CHARLIE CHASE, MASTER OC we’re ALL involved in creating the culture
We brothers to.... salute fam from the West Coast Killa Beez 🐝🐝🐝🐝‼️ Wu Tang 4 Eva 🐝🐝🐝‼️ When you get the history of hip hop from the horses mouth, the founder's, the originals from the 1960's telling you what was going on around those days.....then what ever race or culture you represent.... you should close your mouth and listen, because just like me, you weren't there.... period ‼️👉👍💪💯 🙏
The roots of hip hop came outta the black power movement of the 1960s through 1970s, black entertainment/ black is beautiful/ jive talking/ singing and dancing/ rapping/ Marching . The were the influences on the culture.
@@randee4550 you’re on every FBA HIP HOP channel in every comment 🍆 eating. No I lived through the era in the Bronx and I believe the OG’s. Is 1520 Sedgwick the start of hip hop? Riddle me that Batman
@@randee4550 name one Puerto Rican creator! Not a bystander. Not a so called “pioneer”. Name a Puerto Rican creator!! What did you create? It was jungle bunny music and Moreno music. Stop the cap
@@ricolaw1033 LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣 An OUTSIDER, wants the names of CREATORS, but not the actual Hip-Hop PIONEERS, huh? There's no CREATORS in Hip-Hop. This is why y'all can't name a single CREATOR. Hip-Hop CULTURE, has PIONEERS. But within those PIONEERS, we have so many CREATORS, it reduces the culture, to being dam near 80% PR!!! From the top graffiti crews, to the FOUNDATIONAL B-Boy Crews, those steps/moves, are 99.9% NYC. Which makes YOU the spectator.
@@leftlanehiphop6259 we participated, lived it and helped it become what it is. Please watch the Documentary “The Latin Breakdown” September 21 on you tube. It’s about the unity and love that black and Latin musicians had in the 1940s.
Hip hop, aka "break beat" parties, was house parties in the mid-60s. Break beats were being looped (black music), and people danced over the "break beat" loops. Hence, the name BREAK DANCING. Break beat parties started going outside in the late 60s and early 70s. That's how Puerto Ricans got exposed to hip hop. When hip hop came outside. Hip hop did not start in 1973.
@@prisonandgangs4174 I don’t know about break Beat parties in the mid 60s cool Herc created the merry-go-round in 1976 . Before that they were just playing records.
@luiscaban3301 Cool herc created nothing. This has been proven 1000 times. Hip hip is Black American music. No Jamaican, no puerto Ricans co created nothing.
@@luiscaban3301 Before Herc kids were manipulating records, one turntable to play the best part. At house parties. I wasn’t at any 60s parties, but I did the same thing on my toy turntable. It’s not looping. Herc probably improved on it in someway, but he got the idea from other DJ. He called it ‘going to the yoke’. And he called it ‘hooking it up in an American style’ He was never on beat. Flowers was extending records on beat. Flash brought those things together (claims it was without influence, but I doubt that - Pete DJ Jones) for the quick mix theory. But it all goes back to James Brown and the love of those breaks, started by kids in house parties because you could not do that at a club. It had to develop at house parties first.
Non Foundational Black Americans (F.B.A. (s) ) / non A.D.O.S. helped Hip Hop to become popular, mainstream, & commercialized but they did not create Hip Hop. Non FBA(s) discouraged each other from participating in Hip Hop b cuz Hip Hop was black music aka F.B.A. music. A lot of non FBA(s) did not associate with F.B.A.(s) from the early 1970s and earlier years.
Which of those acronyms was for the Puerto Ricans at THAT time. Because it’s a fact that our parents discouraged us from participating in Black music. That’s kind of, what makes it crazier. We fought our own family to be a part of the culture.
@@luiscaban3301 This is the problem with outsiders. They get their Hip-Hop history, from RUclips. This dude never watched Wild Style. Doesn't own any of the original live battle tapes. Never watched Rapmania. These are dudes, that are not part of the CULTURE, tryna tell us about our own lived culture. This is what FBA is. Ignorance.
I'm part PR and I gotta tell you ....Hip Hop Started Before the 1970s .... Most of my PR Brothers and Sisters was still on Salsa and calling our Black American Brothers and Sisters COCOLOS and other derogatory names and for the most part seperated from "Blacks" This is why most still will tell you " I'm not Black" .. "I'm Puerto Rican" What we "Call HIP HOP" has been around much longer than most of us think. Everything that truly encompasses this cultural lifestyle had begun in areas outside of the Bronx for years. Especially in parts of Queens, and Manhattan.. Brooklyn New Jersey and yes Philadelphia. All of the evidence is available. People just have to stop having a closed mind. And be honest about what's going on here. You cannot be an originator if you didn't originate anything.
You must have ran into the wrong Puerto Ricans. Because Puerto Ricans know that they have Afrikan Roots. PR Did & Still Do Bomba Song & Dance FYI Salsa comes from Cuba.
@@ginadoll00901 We know Salsa came from Cuba ...it was refined in New York City. It's not about me being right or wrong. It's just Historical documented Facts ... That unfortunately far too many of us want to deny and try to rewrite history. I have the integrity to tell the Truth and Facts. How many of us are willing to do so. Puerto Rico has so many great things it has brought to the world culturally. HIP HOP ISN'T ONE OF THEM ❗✌🏽
@@koreyp2845 Puerto Ricans took Hip-Hop CULTURE, around the planet, when Black rappers, were stuck as openers for Punk, and Funk bands. We have Rappers a lane.
@@MRTEE34 We were DJ'n way before you were even allowed inside an electronic store. Black Rap is wack. We let you in. Remember that. Breaking predates Rap. We threw a bone at y'all, with the Black Rap shit, and THAT shit is played out! Latin artists buried Rap years ago. Reggaetón, and Afro Beats, outsell, and outdo Black Rap, in every possible metric. It's why y'all crying about Hip-Hop
Bro, If this was the view most PRs was saying - we would have hardly no problems at all. Its Black Culture.... but now you are with Colon? This dont make sense.
@@AKiEM. I only co-sign things I know to be true. Colon is a good guy. I hope the more we learn the more respect we have for each others points of view. Respect
@@luiscaban3301 I don’t like saying this, but the more I see from Colon, the less respect I have…. and Randee… cmon bro. I can respect anyone’s point of view till it looks like lying or worse. I’m going to keep making vids, if you haven’t seen them.
Hip-hop was around before any of those groups that he named. You can’t say that the origins of hip-hop were like five or six years. It was 1971, the year I was born. But he’s actually making the point when he says that Puerto Ricans were doing black culture. That’s the point. So, there was something there before Puerto Ricans joined. You let Black people from that time, tell it: Puerto Rican wasn’t really messing with us like that.
@@logicalblackman8228 wrong. There were ELEMENTS of Hip Hop. It wasn’t completely “formed” until late 76. Something is not complete until all the elements are in place. All the elements were finally in place in late 76 when grandmaster flash introduced the quick mix theory and Mel started rhyming as an MC for the first time. Before that, it was incomplete.
@@logicalblackman8228 I have a documentary coming out September 21 on RUclips, which explains how Puerto Rican and black artist were involved and influenced each other since the 1940s. of course there was a time that there was racial tension but hip-hop changed that. So if you were not there, please don’t argue as if you were. You said something about to hear them tell it, I was there and I’m telling you.
@@randee4550 Disco King Mario and his Chuck Chuck City crew. B-Boy Trixie and Cholly Rock, to name a few. There is strong evidence to suggest that hip-hop started in the Bronxdale houses, not Bronx River
@@melanatedwarrior3530 yes we did. 1975 there were Puerto Rican rappers, DJ’s, graffiti, writers AND BBoys . The breaks that inspired hip hop (just begun) by Jimmy castor was influenced by Latin bands of the 1940’s & 50’s.
@@melanatedwarrior3530 explain capoeira influence in breakdancing?????? capoeira is 100 percent afro latino. graffiti is part of hip hop now your just lying!!!! if it would of been just fba doing graf you would not have said that. your all about a narrative not facts.
The claim that there is no Puerto Rican culture in Hip Hop is false. Before the USA even formed, Puerto Ricans on the island were battling each other with Controversias or rhythming to drum beats and the guitar repetitively with breaks. Anyone who bothers to study or take a Black and Puerto Rican studies course like the one at Hunter College would learn the real facts, not conjecture or personal takes. There is even a database. The fact is that Hip Hop would not exist without African Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Jamaicans. It was a collaborative effort with each contributing specific things about their culture. Without any of these groups, Hip Hop would simply not exist. Blacks would be with Disco, Puerto Ricans with Salsa, and Jamaicans with Reggae. This attempt to erase Puerto Ricans or Jamaicans is a false narrative that falls on it face when scrutinized by historians, musicians, and scholars of urban lifestyles.
You said Puerto Ricans were Black, but you did not specify exactly. Puerto Ricans are indeed part of the Black African diaspora. The fact that so many people here are not aware of that is scary and shows why they make these ignorant comments about Puerto Ricans attempting to divorce them from Hip Hop.
U hit- it rite there was no hip hop it was wat was going on in the bronx n other borough s later so guess wat if u lived here u did it. Wats the big deal
@@luiscaban3301 My question to you my brother do you know the difference in participating and evolving from culture because people need to know the difference because breaking and rapping and djing has always was part of black american culture that's what people are avoiding for sure!
ANYTHING called "Funk, Soul, Disco, Bugalú", is a derivative, from NY Latin culture, and sound. Cóngas, bongós, timbáles, clave, cencerro, are the make up, of the music, that was played at jams, and were known as the "B-Boy anthems". This is indisputable. When Rap was first recorded, between 1979-1982, before the beat machine era, it was all cóngas, bongós, and timbáles, to the point where even Latin superstars, such as Tito Puente, and Jimmy Delgado, were hired to play, for the first Rap recording super stars. No Disco. No Funk. No Soul. Nope. The record labels hired Latin musicians. Not Nat King Cole, or James Brown. No Aretha Franklin, or Barry White. It was two Puerto Ricans, from NYC. Tito Puente and Jimmy Delgado 🗽🇵🇷💪🏼💯
NOOOO its not, a few artists who used a few Africa instruments from afro cubans.. now y'all wanna claim our music.. you and the crumb crew are leeches and vultures
You people are desperate to steal our history. Puerto Ricans don't even like black people especially back in the early 70s. I hope God deal with y'all and send y'all a serious message.
He stated facts "Hip hop is *New York* Black culture" .
No, Hip Hop is BLACK AMERICAN culture. Yall act as if New York is really an Island separate from the other blacks. See, blacks have a thing called Family Reunions, where we’d share culture, the new dances, while coming together as a family. To say that was isolated in the Bronx is 🧢
@@Assata_Shakur Hip-Hop is 100% BRONX CULTURE!!! Blacks are included.
@@Assata_Shakur that's not Hip-Hop culture. The flavor, that flow, the style, is 100% NYC. Bombing trains, MC/DJ crews, B-Boy battles, etc. We brought our flavor to the world, and Black Culture ADOPTED elements of NYC culture, in order to identify with US!!!!
@@Assata_ShakurI can tell your not from NY especially the Bronx, for you other blacks not from NY telling a Rican from NY especially the Bronx that hip hop is not there culture sounds really stupid
My Brother, I just came across this video. On the subject matter you broke it DOWN….There were definitely Lations down with the get down. There alot of new heads and wanna be historians telling a different story. Peace and blessings 😎✊🏿
No one said Puerto Ricans did not support hip hop in the late 1960s & early 1970s & . Black Americans/ F.B.A.(s)/ A.D.O.S. r saying they created hip hop.
It was not 50/50
Yea Joe is buggin. The performers of Hip Hop were 95% black 5% New York Ricans. NOT Puerto Rican, NEW YORK RICANS. the crowd was like 65% black 35% New York Ricans.
@@luiscaban3301Respect……✊🏿
@@luiscaban3301
That's just Rap.
If we're gonna look at Hip-Hop culture, as a WHOLE, it's more like 75/25. 25 being Black. The rest were Hispanics, Caribbeans, and even some Whites.
Don't be pandering to these clowns, bro. They will take whatever you say, outta context, make a video, and say some bullshit about you. These are outsiders, that don't know shit, about the culture.
@@luiscaban3301 Not where I was at
Hip hop started before cold crush , and those groups you named. They were the first groups but hip hop was already rolling
@@deefunkstrong7818 I know. As of 76. Are you saying ColdCrush are not considered creators of Hip Hop?
@@luiscaban3301 sir what I’m saying is that “hip hop “ as culture was already rolling. Cold crush and the formation of “hip hop “ groups was something that came a few years later. When hip hop started it was no groups, and I believe hip hop first mc was coke la rock. No cold crush, crash crew, funky four none of them.
@@deefunkstrong7818 I understand exactly what you are saying. But it’s my opinion that those things are elements of hip-hop. I’m not saying that nobody said rhymes before Melle Mel. But what I’m saying is that the MC came to the forefront of hip-hop culture when Mel started writing because flash invented the quick mix theory. So they were people before that, but they were all saying short nursery rhymes and hyping up the crowd. Once flash created the quick theory, Mel was right there, and he was the one who switched it from a party Rapper New York City MC splitting and not just chants. So I agree that the elements of hip-hop were around before 1976 but most of it was just playing music with two turntables which is not necessarily hip-hop. Saying short little rhymes like Muhammad Ali but that was not hip-hop yet. Thank you for having an actual conversation and not just Being confrontational. I understand your point. I’m just saying that in my mind hip-hop was born in 1977 and as soon as it was born, they were Puerto Rican MCS and DJs contributing to the culture. It’s hard for me to hear people talk like they know because I was there watching and there was no difference between blacks and Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans were there contributing to the culture. If we have to use the word create, then there were only six people who actually created it and they were all black. But they were not all FBA. And if we only count those six people then that would mean that a person like grandmaster, Caz is not a creator of hip-hop? Rapping Existed before he started doing it, but he still contributed to it.
Hip-hop is not derived from Puerto Rican Culture it's derived from Black American Funk and Soul music
Agreed. Did I say something different?
@@luiscaban3301 I would say 1973 and under.
@@luiscaban3301 The title of the Video says something different.
No where does it say it was derived from Puerto Rican culture. It says Puerto Ricans prior to 1979 helped create the culture. They did.
I CLEARLY stated it was NOT Puerto Rican culture. I CLEALY said it was BLACK, NEW YORK CULTURE. But the Puerto Ricans that were in New York helped create that culture prior to most Black people around the world and the rest of the country. So it was NYC culture. And Puerto Ricans we’re a part of that. CREATORS. WHIPPER WHIP, RUBY D, DEVASTATING TITO, CHARLIE CHASE, MASTER OC we’re ALL involved in creating the culture
We brothers to.... salute fam from the West Coast Killa Beez 🐝🐝🐝🐝‼️ Wu Tang 4 Eva 🐝🐝🐝‼️
When you get the history of hip hop from the horses mouth, the founder's, the originals from the 1960's telling you what was going on around those days.....then what ever race or culture you represent.... you should close your mouth and listen, because just like me, you weren't there.... period ‼️👉👍💪💯 🙏
The roots of hip hop came outta the black power movement of the 1960s through 1970s, black entertainment/ black is beautiful/ jive talking/ singing and dancing/ rapping/ Marching . The were the influences on the culture.
1971 is the start of Hip Hop. Not 1973. 1520 Sedgwick isn’t the start of Hip Hop.
@@ricolaw1033 How do you know? Because you saw a video on RUclips?
@@randee4550 you’re on every FBA HIP HOP channel in every comment 🍆 eating. No I lived through the era in the Bronx and I believe the OG’s. Is 1520 Sedgwick the start of hip hop? Riddle me that Batman
@@randee4550 name one Puerto Rican creator! Not a bystander. Not a so called “pioneer”. Name a Puerto Rican creator!! What did you create? It was jungle bunny music and Moreno music. Stop the cap
@@ricolaw1033 LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
An OUTSIDER, wants the names of CREATORS, but not the actual Hip-Hop PIONEERS, huh? There's no CREATORS in Hip-Hop. This is why y'all can't name a single CREATOR. Hip-Hop CULTURE, has PIONEERS.
But within those PIONEERS, we have so many CREATORS, it reduces the culture, to being dam near 80% PR!!!
From the top graffiti crews, to the FOUNDATIONAL B-Boy Crews, those steps/moves, are 99.9% NYC. Which makes YOU the spectator.
@@ricolaw1033 Since you made the claim, then ran from answering, that means you can't name the 1971 Hip-Hop CREATOR CREW. Correct?
This is all we saying. It was black culture and yhall particpated. Thats all we asking for...that acknowledgement.
@@leftlanehiphop6259 we participated, lived it and helped it become what it is. Please watch the Documentary “The Latin Breakdown” September 21 on you tube. It’s about the unity and love that black and Latin musicians had in the 1940s.
@@luiscaban3301 No doubt about...
Hip hop, aka "break beat" parties, was house parties in the mid-60s. Break beats were being looped (black music), and people danced over the "break beat" loops. Hence, the name BREAK DANCING. Break beat parties started going outside in the late 60s and early 70s. That's how Puerto Ricans got exposed to hip hop. When hip hop came outside. Hip hop did not start in 1973.
@@prisonandgangs4174 I don’t know about break Beat parties in the mid 60s cool Herc created the merry-go-round in 1976 . Before that they were just playing records.
@luiscaban3301 Cool herc created nothing. This has been proven 1000 times. Hip hip is Black American music. No Jamaican, no puerto Ricans co created nothing.
@@prisonandgangs4174 Name one break, from before 1970. These niggas stay inventing shit
@@luiscaban3301 Before Herc kids were manipulating records, one turntable to play the best part. At house parties. I wasn’t at any 60s parties, but I did the same thing on my toy turntable. It’s not looping. Herc probably improved on it in someway, but he got the idea from other DJ. He called it ‘going to the yoke’. And he called it ‘hooking it up in an American style’ He was never on beat. Flowers was extending records on beat. Flash brought those things together (claims it was without influence, but I doubt that - Pete DJ Jones) for the quick mix theory. But it all goes back to James Brown and the love of those breaks, started by kids in house parties because you could not do that at a club. It had to develop at house parties first.
Non Foundational Black Americans (F.B.A. (s) ) / non A.D.O.S. helped Hip Hop to become popular, mainstream, & commercialized but they did not create Hip Hop. Non FBA(s) discouraged each other from participating in Hip Hop b cuz Hip Hop was black music aka F.B.A. music. A lot of non FBA(s) did not associate with F.B.A.(s) from the early 1970s and earlier years.
Stop talking nonsense. No one at that time was asking about fba.
@@fitawrarifitness6842 The term F.B.A. was not used back then but F.B.A.(s) have existed in the U.S. for hundreds of years.
Which of those acronyms was for the Puerto Ricans at THAT time. Because it’s a fact that our parents discouraged us from participating in Black music. That’s kind of, what makes it crazier. We fought our own family to be a part of the culture.
@@luiscaban3301 Puerto Ricans and other non FBA(s) participated in the early days of Hip Hop but did not create Hip Hop.
@@WorkInProgress-123 Puerto Ricans began around 1975. That is part of the creation of hip hop.
Factz! 🔥🔥🔥
I never heard of Whipper whip until Lord Jamar mentioned his name.
@@frayedends7291 how old are you. How long have you been listening to hip hop? He been reppin since 76
@@luiscaban3301 This is the problem with outsiders. They get their Hip-Hop history, from RUclips. This dude never watched Wild Style. Doesn't own any of the original live battle tapes. Never watched Rapmania. These are dudes, that are not part of the CULTURE, tryna tell us about our own lived culture.
This is what FBA is. Ignorance.
I'm part PR and I gotta tell you ....Hip Hop Started Before the 1970s ....
Most of my PR Brothers and Sisters was still on Salsa and calling our Black American Brothers and Sisters COCOLOS and other derogatory names and for the most part seperated from "Blacks"
This is why most still will tell you " I'm not Black" .. "I'm Puerto Rican"
What we "Call HIP HOP" has been around much longer than most of us think.
Everything that truly encompasses this cultural lifestyle had begun in areas outside of the Bronx for years. Especially in parts of Queens, and Manhattan.. Brooklyn New Jersey and yes Philadelphia.
All of the evidence is available. People just have to stop having a closed mind. And be honest about what's going on here. You cannot be an originator if you didn't originate anything.
You must have ran into the wrong Puerto Ricans. Because Puerto Ricans know that they have Afrikan Roots. PR Did & Still Do Bomba Song & Dance FYI Salsa comes from Cuba.
@@ginadoll00901 We know Salsa came from Cuba ...it was refined in New York City.
It's not about me being right or wrong.
It's just Historical documented Facts ...
That unfortunately far too many of us want to deny and try to rewrite history.
I have the integrity to tell the Truth and Facts.
How many of us are willing to do so.
Puerto Rico has so many great things it has brought to the world culturally.
HIP HOP ISN'T ONE OF THEM ❗✌🏽
They didn’t say Puerto Ricans didn’t help push it forward. You didn’t create it. Name one Puerto Ricans CREATOR
@@ricolaw1033 stop asking stupid shit. WTF did you CREATE?
They didn't help push it either
@@koreyp2845 Puerto Ricans took Hip-Hop CULTURE, around the planet, when Black rappers, were stuck as openers for Punk, and Funk bands. We have Rappers a lane.
@@randee4550doing what. You can’t DJ, you can’t Rap and that breakdancing sh!t was played out in 1978
@@MRTEE34 We were DJ'n way before you were even allowed inside an electronic store. Black Rap is wack. We let you in. Remember that. Breaking predates Rap. We threw a bone at y'all, with the Black Rap shit, and THAT shit is played out! Latin artists buried Rap years ago. Reggaetón, and Afro Beats, outsell, and outdo Black Rap, in every possible metric. It's why y'all crying about Hip-Hop
That would be a period of hip hop. Not the creation of hip hop.
@@AlbertEinstein-fv2sn what?
Bro, If this was the view most PRs was saying - we would have hardly no problems at all. Its Black Culture.... but now you are with Colon? This dont make sense.
@@AKiEM. I only co-sign things I know to be true. Colon is a good guy. I hope the more we learn the more respect we have for each others points of view. Respect
@@luiscaban3301 I don’t like saying this, but the more I see from Colon, the less respect I have…. and Randee… cmon bro. I can respect anyone’s point of view till it looks like lying or worse. I’m going to keep making vids, if you haven’t seen them.
@@AKiEM. I speak about my experience and my point of view. Hoping everyone can keep it respectful and positive.
@@luiscaban3301 what’s your contact? YT deleting my comments
@@AKiEM.let him change his story like Colon did because it don’t matter we got both of then on video saying it comes from blacks
Hip hop is a new york culture. Puerto Ricans are n.y, new york Ricans. If you didn't know now you know.
Jewish/Irish/Italians are NY also , so they were there too ?
@@Marvin-ut4xs Your ignorance is showing,they are whites.what do you consider prs,Dominicans to be?
Hip-hop was around before any of those groups that he named. You can’t say that the origins of hip-hop were like five or six years. It was 1971, the year I was born.
But he’s actually making the point when he says that Puerto Ricans were doing black culture. That’s the point. So, there was something there before Puerto Ricans joined.
You let Black people from that time, tell it: Puerto Rican wasn’t really messing with us like that.
@@logicalblackman8228 wrong. There were ELEMENTS of Hip Hop. It wasn’t completely “formed” until late 76. Something is not complete until all the elements are in place. All the elements were finally in place in late 76 when grandmaster flash introduced the quick mix theory and Mel started rhyming as an MC for the first time. Before that, it was incomplete.
@@logicalblackman8228 I have a documentary coming out September 21 on RUclips, which explains how Puerto Rican and black artist were involved and influenced each other since the 1940s. of course there was a time that there was racial tension but hip-hop changed that. So if you were not there, please don’t argue as if you were. You said something about to hear them tell it, I was there and I’m telling you.
@@logicalblackman8228 Why these dudes make CLAIMS, but can't name anybody?
@@logicalblackman8228 Name ANYBODY, that was Hip-Hop, before Herc.
Go..
@@randee4550 Disco King Mario and his Chuck Chuck City crew. B-Boy Trixie and Cholly Rock, to name a few.
There is strong evidence to suggest that hip-hop started in the Bronxdale houses, not Bronx River
Perfectly Bro......
We need a documentary. Theyre trying to cut us out the history smh..
@@melanatedwarrior3530 still part of it
@@melanatedwarrior3530 yes we did. 1975 there were Puerto Rican rappers, DJ’s, graffiti, writers AND BBoys . The breaks that inspired hip hop (just begun) by Jimmy castor was influenced by Latin bands of the 1940’s & 50’s.
@@melanatedwarrior3530 explain capoeira influence in breakdancing?????? capoeira is 100 percent afro latino. graffiti is part of hip hop now your just lying!!!! if it would of been just fba doing graf you would not have said that. your all about a narrative not facts.
Here it is. Coming soon
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@@luiscaban3301 love it
The Latin Breakdown - September 21, 2024 Peace...
Enlighten me brother?
Should be the Latin caribbean breakdown
Should be the Latin caribbean breakdown
Facts
Not you again.
@@stevehardison8768 That’s the same thing I said this person is in every video
@@terrencemalone2110 I have seen this lady in at least 3 different channels.
Hiphop started in “71” not “73”
@@D-unfadeable Who said?
The claim that there is no Puerto Rican culture in Hip Hop is false. Before the USA even formed, Puerto Ricans on the island were battling each other with Controversias or rhythming to drum beats and the guitar repetitively with breaks. Anyone who bothers to study or take a Black and Puerto Rican studies course like the one at Hunter College would learn the real facts, not conjecture or personal takes. There is even a database. The fact is that Hip Hop would not exist without African Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Jamaicans. It was a collaborative effort with each contributing specific things about their culture. Without any of these groups, Hip Hop would simply not exist. Blacks would be with Disco, Puerto Ricans with Salsa, and Jamaicans with Reggae. This attempt to erase Puerto Ricans or Jamaicans is a false narrative that falls on it face when scrutinized by historians, musicians, and scholars of urban lifestyles.
Your dealer just came by with a good batch of meth for you to write all of that
You said Puerto Ricans were Black, but you did not specify exactly. Puerto Ricans are indeed part of the Black African diaspora. The fact that so many people here are not aware of that is scary and shows why they make these ignorant comments about Puerto Ricans attempting to divorce them from Hip Hop.
U hit- it rite there was no hip hop it was wat was going on in the bronx n other borough s later so guess wat if u lived here u did it. Wats the big deal
Big deal?
PR are not black.
@@NativeisElla only about 33%
@@luiscaban3301 My question to you my brother do you know the difference in participating and evolving from culture because people need to know the difference because breaking and rapping and djing has always was part of black american culture that's what people are avoiding for sure!
@@42blackflag of course I do.
@@42blackflag it’s NEW YORK HOOD culture
@@42blackflagdon't be so sensitive
ANYTHING called "Funk, Soul, Disco, Bugalú", is a derivative, from NY Latin culture, and sound. Cóngas, bongós, timbáles, clave, cencerro, are the make up, of the music, that was played at jams, and were known as the "B-Boy anthems". This is indisputable.
When Rap was first recorded, between 1979-1982, before the beat machine era, it was all cóngas, bongós, and timbáles, to the point where even Latin superstars, such as Tito Puente, and Jimmy Delgado, were hired to play, for the first Rap recording super stars.
No Disco. No Funk. No Soul. Nope. The record labels hired Latin musicians. Not Nat King Cole, or James Brown. No Aretha Franklin, or Barry White.
It was two Puerto Ricans, from NYC.
Tito Puente and Jimmy Delgado 🗽🇵🇷💪🏼💯
NOOOO its not, a few artists who used a few Africa instruments from afro cubans.. now y'all wanna claim our music.. you and the crumb crew are leeches and vultures
You people are desperate to steal our history. Puerto Ricans don't even like black people especially back in the early 70s. I hope God deal with y'all and send y'all a serious message.