@@RobertElderSoftwareI hope this video actually gets 10 billion views because then you will know for sure there was a message and you actually decoded it without even knowing
i got about a hundred of these on a popular white noise video of mine over the summer. interesting offset pattern and i appreciate you taking the time to explain the code and logic being your approach to the problem
I only learned recently that you can re-use a previously defined group inside of grep's pattern match (from Stand-up Math's video on regex to find prime numbers and some related explanations from other channels) so you can rewrite the first grep from grep -P '^([A-Z][a-z]+ ){5} [A-Z][a-z]+$' to instead: grep -P '^([A-Z][a-z]+)( \1)+$' to the same effect! Apparently this is not possible using just a regular language, so technically grep is not using regular expressions, but a higher order of expressions on the Chomsky hierarchy. Regardless, it's very cool to see practical usage of grep and other command line tools in a video, great stuff!
@@alkumathri_alhanafi Ah, you're totally right, it would be matching the exact same text (as opposed to a new contiguous set of characters). Oh well, lol. I still feel like it could be shortened, maybe "( ?[A-Za-z])+" would work instead though?
I think the theory that it's someone experimenting with RUclips's spam filters the most likely. The main clue is the offset. I recently read about how a few clever RUclipsrs were able to bypass the RUclips content ID filter when uploading a video, in order to upload movies and TV shows. They were able to do this by understanding how RUclips is able to scan so much data - it does so by checking every X number of bytes / segments (I don't recall the exact term). What they would do is change just that part to something benign, and RUclips would therefore accept the video on upload. However when it was played, the preview window inside the video player would show a completely different video to the one playing, due to the deliberate tampering. So my theory is that RUclips may use the same method to scan large numbers of comments, by taking every other word and checking if anything is untoward. This explains why they have tried both odd, even, and a mixture of the two. It's possible that these names are just a simple test / proof of concept, prior to the creator starting the test proper.
I am curious about the connection between account names and comments. Maybe these comments are used as a trigger for bot accounts to do something if their name is mentioned? This could also explain why some names are repeated, e.g. to define a bot group and/or action. This would support the theory about someone trying to reverse engineer RUclips's algorithm or spam detection.
Actually, I had thought about that but forgot to mention it in the video. On one of the music videos that I looked at, there were some bot looking comments that I saw @ing other bot looking names. It might be some kind of bot coordination protocol.
My guess is it is a poorly designed programing technique for introducing new bot accounts for later use boosting particular videos and creators. The first and last names probably pull from a list of names randomly taken from something like a phone book, which created the consistent numerical patterns across it's primitive randomization technique. I'd also guess the comments that have things like foods or places are just different versions of the same coded software. The scammers need so many fake accounts that it's probably like a hail mary passing approach to getting enough fake accounts coded and active to make their money.
I don't like writing or modifying shell scripts because I think they're old-fashioned and obtuse compared to a proper programming language such as Python! Also, I don't like imperial bolt sizes, so I only have metric spanners in my toolbox. 🙂
"Most likely" why exactly? They can use any random sentence for that. I don't get why people are just repeating this. And i don't expect a response since you are just repeating someone else's thought anyway
@@Noirrrx4 i see, but it wouldnt be hard to make it a random sentence with a random number of words. Making it specifically 5 first/last names just makes it way easier to mark as spam. But yes might be a weird test. Just doesnt seem like the "most likely" imo
Perhaps someone is using bots to write “marker comments” under RUclips videos and other content. With the goal of determining whether an AI model has been trained with the comments. By asking ChatGPT or similar AI chatbots for the exact sequence of names, one could find a violation of TOS or something (after the next AI training round, of course). Just an idea. Thanks for the interesting video, thought provoking!
im considering intentionally blocking a fake name just to try to see if someone tries to claim the blocked name is my own. if someone does try that, then ik for a fact that's what the name bots are for and will be able to watch my target reveal themself to me in the future
I still haven't gotten around to figuring out what that weird hash looking thing was that you posted on one of my sha shorts. BTW, I've been meaning to ask you: Are you an FBI honeypot by any chance?
@@RobertElderSoftware The concept of open source beer refers to the practice of sharing beer recipes, brewing processes, and knowledge among breweries and homebrewers. This movement is inspired by the open source software philosophy, where developers collaborate and share code to create innovative and community-driven projects. Examples of Open Source Beer Modern Times Beer: This San Diego-based brewery has been sharing their popular beer recipes on BeerSmith, a popular brewing software, since the beginning. Brewdog: The Scottish brewery has been annually publishing their beer recipes in a massive PDF called DIY Dog since 2016. MadTree Brewing: This Ohio-based brewery shares their beer recipes and brewing processes on their website, providing a “blueprint” for homebrewers to work from. Loaded Dice Brewery: This Michigan-based brewery has committed to being an “open brewery,” sharing their recipes, mash schedules, fermentation profiles, and brew house schematics with the public. Taiwanese Breweries: The Taipei Biennial has collaborated with local breweries to produce FREE BEER, an open source beer project that applies free software/open source methods to traditional beer production. Tools and Resources Brewtarget: A free, open source brewing software available for Linux, Mac, and Windows, which helps calculate beer parameters and provides a recipe creation tool. Homebrew: A package manager for macOS (and Linux) that installs non-open source software, including brewing software and apps. Philosophy and Benefits The open source beer movement promotes collaboration, innovation, and transparency within the craft brewing industry. By sharing knowledge and recipes, breweries can: Encourage homebrewing and community engagement Foster innovation and experimentation Build relationships with suppliers and customers Demonstrate a commitment to transparency and openness Overall, open source beer represents a shift towards a more collaborative and community-driven approach in the craft brewing industry, mirroring the principles of open source software development.
I hope you see this comment. Those aren't lists of 6 names, they are lists of 3 in Lastname Firstname format. All of your even indexes are typical lastnames, all your odds are typical firstnames, and Thomas is typically either. I guess this is for SEO purposes.
Maybe a state / corporate sponsored AI training poisoning campaign? It's the only thing that make sense to me. If it were glowies, there are less noticeable ways to communicate, if is it would be recruitment. Or Google's AI has learned to skirt containment by hiding its weights in coded google comments.
If I recall correctly, you're the guy who superchatted me a couple times, and you had a project that you were working on (I forget what it was) and you were looking for people to test it? If so, and you want me to give your project a bit of attention, let me know.
In a Nutshell- I'm old, raised in isolation, lived isolated, in fact this moment speaking from farm I was born. ... Blissful ignorance Ten years ago sat in front of a computer for the first time, also first cell phone, now im awake. My whole worldview perception has changed. There must be a correlation? .... rhetorical
Weird, you comments don't show up in 'held for review' either. I've heard from other people that YT does that. I've even had YT make my own comment disappear sometimes.
2:55 i dont think it rlly matters and this is more my inability to not be annoying than actual criticism _but_ your sample was like 4-5 news videos from or about a couple different countries and one music video. Which is only really 2 different types of videos at the end of the day. News and music.
The sample size was 46 different videos, mostly Canadian news channels. Like I said, I would like to collect a much larger sample size, but there's only so many hours in the day to waste on stuff like this.
For what it's worth I have seen something similar w kpop idols name, I assumed that they are bots made by fans. Intentions being something like tell new fans about the idols and increase the views music videos have. And the bots just comment those things under videos randomly, bc of some bug where attempts to make them look human went wrong. But maybe it is more connected to this
Made me think of this video, where someone was trying to store information on RUclips. Could be another RUclipsrs project that you’ve stumbled upon. ruclips.net/video/_w6PCHutmb4/видео.htmlsi=byru3KZe7okgtflP
Ringway Manchester page, referenced at 16:01
youtube.com/@ringwaymanchester?si=DKKp3pK9MFI0JQl8
dont copy si= string, its just a tracking string and does nothing
I use the grep command to unravel a massive conspiracy happening in my comment section.
27 users gave you a like but could resist asking you if grep happened to be your favourite Linux command. 👍
😂😂😂😂Blew my mind when he started doing random commands making it all make sense
I read this in his voice in my head, honestly maybe it's just me but i love RobertElder's voice acting in his "my favorite linux command" videos.
that now has to make grep Robert's favouritest Linux command!
wonder if its chinese or russian bots malfunctioning
that is a really unnecessarily deep dive into the situation i love it
They are not bots, they are the souls of dead people trapped inside youtube servers, they post their names so people don't forget.
Terry Pratchett lives on!
I believe you
Knowing they have biological ai from human brains
Poor Gonzalez
That's why this is my favorite youtube channel.
This is my favorite comment.
@@RobertElderSoftwareI hope this video actually gets 10 billion views because then you will know for sure there was a message and you actually decoded it without even knowing
i got about a hundred of these on a popular white noise video of mine over the summer. interesting offset pattern and i appreciate you taking the time to explain the code and logic being your approach to the problem
Cool video. Immediately clicked the thumbnail because I'd been noticing those comments too.
I only learned recently that you can re-use a previously defined group inside of grep's pattern match (from Stand-up Math's video on regex to find prime numbers and some related explanations from other channels) so you can rewrite the first grep from grep -P '^([A-Z][a-z]+ ){5} [A-Z][a-z]+$' to instead: grep -P '^([A-Z][a-z]+)( \1)+$' to the same effect! Apparently this is not possible using just a regular language, so technically grep is not using regular expressions, but a higher order of expressions on the Chomsky hierarchy. Regardless, it's very cool to see practical usage of grep and other command line tools in a video, great stuff!
actually you can't because the \1 will match the same word, so it won't match 6 different names, idk why there are upvotes tho
@@alkumathri_alhanafi Ah, you're totally right, it would be matching the exact same text (as opposed to a new contiguous set of characters). Oh well, lol. I still feel like it could be shortened, maybe "( ?[A-Za-z])+" would work instead though?
Sarah, Ethan, Charlotte, Ryan, Emily, Tyler, Michael, Emma, Sophia, Samuel, Ava, Grace, Ethan
it says "secret message" lol
@@o1-preview That's only the small part of the puzzle, you are missing something.
11:30 Check the first letter of each country.
(C)ONGO (P)ERO (U)RUGUAY
Woah.
Pero isn't a country
Indonesia Dominica Kenya, Myanmar Yemen Mauritius Armenia Nauru
@@酗 I just write the same thing then search for this comment 🤣
I think the theory that it's someone experimenting with RUclips's spam filters the most likely. The main clue is the offset. I recently read about how a few clever RUclipsrs were able to bypass the RUclips content ID filter when uploading a video, in order to upload movies and TV shows. They were able to do this by understanding how RUclips is able to scan so much data - it does so by checking every X number of bytes / segments (I don't recall the exact term). What they would do is change just that part to something benign, and RUclips would therefore accept the video on upload. However when it was played, the preview window inside the video player would show a completely different video to the one playing, due to the deliberate tampering. So my theory is that RUclips may use the same method to scan large numbers of comments, by taking every other word and checking if anything is untoward. This explains why they have tried both odd, even, and a mixture of the two. It's possible that these names are just a simple test / proof of concept, prior to the creator starting the test proper.
The way that you talk about using simple programming to analyze data is really really fascinating and genuinely makes me smarter so thank you
John Jacob Jingleheimerschmidt Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
I am curious about the connection between account names and comments. Maybe these comments are used as a trigger for bot accounts to do something if their name is mentioned? This could also explain why some names are repeated, e.g. to define a bot group and/or action. This would support the theory about someone trying to reverse engineer RUclips's algorithm or spam detection.
Actually, I had thought about that but forgot to mention it in the video. On one of the music videos that I looked at, there were some bot looking comments that I saw @ing other bot looking names. It might be some kind of bot coordination protocol.
Soulless Gray Bots Spam Furiously
Lol the CONGO PERU URUGUAY is clearly an attempt at a joke (CPU = Congo Peru Uruguay)
I hate the modern Internet. The anxiety of not knowing if im talking to a real person or bot is something else. 😅
Very intriguing observations
I was wrong, this is now my new favourite kind of RobertElderSoftware content
Odd/Even offsets can be first/last names. Some names can be both first/last but others are only first or last.
Lorem Ipsum Dolor Sit Amet
this is my favorite video in RUclips
Invitation to join select service was mailed 👍
My guess is it is a poorly designed programing technique for introducing new bot accounts for later use boosting particular videos and creators. The first and last names probably pull from a list of names randomly taken from something like a phone book, which created the consistent numerical patterns across it's primitive randomization technique. I'd also guess the comments that have things like foods or places are just different versions of the same coded software. The scammers need so many fake accounts that it's probably like a hail mary passing approach to getting enough fake accounts coded and active to make their money.
John John John John John
John John John John John John John
Random distribution
Let's get this video to 10B
This is the funniest program related content I have ever seen. Belee Dat.
Barbecue Bacon Burger
Shotgun You Complete Me
Really neat video! What did you use to acquire the jsons of comments for a video?
I think that yt-dlp can do it.
Either an official API provided by RUclips or a library that scrapes the data from the comment section
yt-dlp --write-comments --dump-single-json "$url"
I would suggest to you, you look into python f-strings. It makes writing formatting of strings so much nicer imho. Crazy video!
Python f-strings are my favourite code to formatted text language.
I don't like writing or modifying shell scripts because I think they're old-fashioned and obtuse compared to a proper programming language such as Python! Also, I don't like imperial bolt sizes, so I only have metric spanners in my toolbox. 🙂
Most likely a bot army trying to earn the trust of the algorithm before they start taking part in some coordinated campaign
"Most likely" why exactly? They can use any random sentence for that. I don't get why people are just repeating this. And i don't expect a response since you are just repeating someone else's thought anyway
@@MikeLit939because the person operating the campaign probably does this with ease lol I imagine this is just a warm up / test
@@Noirrrx4 i see, but it wouldnt be hard to make it a random sentence with a random number of words. Making it specifically 5 first/last names just makes it way easier to mark as spam. But yes might be a weird test. Just doesnt seem like the "most likely" imo
Perhaps someone is using bots to write “marker comments” under RUclips videos and other content. With the goal of determining whether an AI model has been trained with the comments. By asking ChatGPT or similar AI chatbots for the exact sequence of names, one could find a violation of TOS or something (after the next AI training round, of course). Just an idea. Thanks for the interesting video, thought provoking!
Yeah I also thought it could be LLM Training Set poisoning or something like that, but the intent or method is beyond me
I get these too!! 😆
You have the best-looking tinfoil hat I’ve ever seen 😂
I mean this is probably less than clean people trying to see how good RUclips's let's say targeted harassment content filter is...
How did you get the json file. Copy from the source of the website(RUclips).
interesting and informative, thank you!
6 goes into 24. Its a 24 word reconery to a crypto wallet on the blockchain full of bitcoin.
im considering intentionally blocking a fake name just to try to see if someone tries to claim the blocked name is my own. if someone does try that, then ik for a fact that's what the name bots are for and will be able to watch my target reveal themself to me in the future
Clever clogs 😆
Yes
I still haven't gotten around to figuring out what that weird hash looking thing was that you posted on one of my sha shorts. BTW, I've been meaning to ask you: Are you an FBI honeypot by any chance?
@@RobertElderSoftware The concept of open source beer refers to the practice of sharing beer recipes, brewing processes, and knowledge among breweries and homebrewers. This movement is inspired by the open source software philosophy, where developers collaborate and share code to create innovative and community-driven projects.
Examples of Open Source Beer
Modern Times Beer: This San Diego-based brewery has been sharing their popular beer recipes on BeerSmith, a popular brewing software, since the beginning.
Brewdog: The Scottish brewery has been annually publishing their beer recipes in a massive PDF called DIY Dog since 2016.
MadTree Brewing: This Ohio-based brewery shares their beer recipes and brewing processes on their website, providing a “blueprint” for homebrewers to work from.
Loaded Dice Brewery: This Michigan-based brewery has committed to being an “open brewery,” sharing their recipes, mash schedules, fermentation profiles, and brew house schematics with the public.
Taiwanese Breweries: The Taipei Biennial has collaborated with local breweries to produce FREE BEER, an open source beer project that applies free software/open source methods to traditional beer production.
Tools and Resources
Brewtarget: A free, open source brewing software available for Linux, Mac, and Windows, which helps calculate beer parameters and provides a recipe creation tool.
Homebrew: A package manager for macOS (and Linux) that installs non-open source software, including brewing software and apps.
Philosophy and Benefits
The open source beer movement promotes collaboration, innovation, and transparency within the craft brewing industry. By sharing knowledge and recipes, breweries can:
Encourage homebrewing and community engagement
Foster innovation and experimentation
Build relationships with suppliers and customers
Demonstrate a commitment to transparency and openness
Overall, open source beer represents a shift towards a more collaborative and community-driven approach in the craft brewing industry, mirroring the principles of open source software development.
@@RobertElderSoftware also NO 🫂
@@RobertElderSoftware also
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I just knew it was gonna end like that 😂
I hope you see this comment. Those aren't lists of 6 names, they are lists of 3 in Lastname Firstname format. All of your even indexes are typical lastnames, all your odds are typical firstnames, and Thomas is typically either. I guess this is for SEO purposes.
Maybe a state / corporate sponsored AI training poisoning campaign? It's the only thing that make sense to me. If it were glowies, there are less noticeable ways to communicate, if is it would be recruitment. Or Google's AI has learned to skirt containment by hiding its weights in coded google comments.
Bro what the fuck lmao this is wild
what a cool way to use linux commands
Theyve got you right where they want you
Those are the nuclear codes
Dear minko, tomato explosion
Click farms doing random activity to hide from detection?
If I recall correctly, you're the guy who superchatted me a couple times, and you had a project that you were working on (I forget what it was) and you were looking for people to test it? If so, and you want me to give your project a bit of attention, let me know.
This is my favorite youtube conspiracy
This is my favourite comment.
Thomas
Thomas
Thomas
Thomas 😎
In a Nutshell- I'm old, raised in isolation, lived isolated, in fact this moment speaking from farm I was born. ... Blissful ignorance
Ten years ago sat in front of a computer for the first time, also first cell phone, now im awake. My whole worldview perception has changed.
There must be a correlation?
.... rhetorical
Only nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand five hundred thirty six views away from getting the second part!
congo peru uruguay on your cpu video. feels too dumb to even mention but too convenient to ignore
They are trying to find your name or password
Bob Alice Bob Another Bob Melvin
Indubitably
Someone is just telling their favorite alias for their favorite command.
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
This is my favorite spam comment
This is my favorite comment.
This feels like a movie trailer for that movie Pi
aww i want you to dig moreeee ;-;
Strange. If I comment like thanks or good video. It gets deleted by yt
Weird, you comments don't show up in 'held for review' either. I've heard from other people that YT does that. I've even had YT make my own comment disappear sometimes.
2:55 i dont think it rlly matters and this is more my inability to not be annoying than actual criticism _but_ your sample was like 4-5 news videos from or about a couple different countries and one music video. Which is only really 2 different types of videos at the end of the day. News and music.
The sample size was 46 different videos, mostly Canadian news channels. Like I said, I would like to collect a much larger sample size, but there's only so many hours in the day to waste on stuff like this.
I also thoght news and music where particular interrests
For what it's worth I have seen something similar w kpop idols name, I assumed that they are bots made by fans. Intentions being something like tell new fans about the idols and increase the views music videos have. And the bots just comment those things under videos randomly, bc of some bug where attempts to make them look human went wrong. But maybe it is more connected to this
You read names like the lady reads numbers in black ops
It’s probably some poorly coded bot that’s supposed to generate western sounding names for scam accounts
Ham Bacon Spam Eggs Hash Browns
penus
Gonzalez
Adam Charlotte Andrew Lee Alexander Jessica Elizabeth John Henry
Actually an amaznig vid
on dearrow it was called Data/cipher analysis of strange RUclips bot comments lol
likely AI learning/ practicing
Spell icup!
Maybe malware cnc. 🤷♂️
I'm proud to be the 970th viewer
3/4 of RUclips is bots lol
Robert Linus Terry Stallman Lennart
Commenting for the algo.
.... interesting
Try gematria.
Matila Henry David Joseph Leon Ean
Alex Jordan Taylor Casey Morgan Riley Sam Chris Jamie Devin
Is this good enough? Am I spammy?
Thomas
This is the only guy who can understand and write regexp
James Poopypants
John Jessica Tom Clark Joshua
NO. ITS BOTS TRYING TO MAP USERS AND GREP PERSONAL INFORMATION. IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT YOU ARE SMARTER THAN I.
Derek Anderson Monty Niel Perez Randy Eric Timothy Thorpe York Cole Olivia Owen Liam
Spam and egg
Spam and chips
Spam and news
Spam and jobs
My favourite linux command person names are:
Joe
Rex
Zoe
Tina
Cal
Lynx
Deb
Nano
Sed
Echo
More
Less
Jackd
Free/Man
This is my favourite comment.
Jim jim jim jim jim jimothy
Casey Rob Taylor Brendan Robert Michael Rasmus Linus Bram Dennis Brian Donald
It is a bot trying to dox by trying names until they get automoderated by a banned name i think
blud didnt even watch the video, theres more than one theory dummasf
This Has No Meaning You Wasted Time
John Sharon Maria Taylor Robert Laura
Made me think of this video, where someone was trying to store information on RUclips. Could be another RUclipsrs project that you’ve stumbled upon.
ruclips.net/video/_w6PCHutmb4/видео.htmlsi=byru3KZe7okgtflP
Nathan Ivy George Gavin Emily Richard
Based