@@INZEM Aight personally, imma go with my boy Android 17. Initially it was difficult to say since I’m fine with whatever..but I feel as if 17 has so much potential with his rekka system in particular in how it can be used as a pressure, reset, mixup, conditioning tool and possibly more. I haven’t seen too many real guides or character overviews on him but I would really like or hear your fleshed out thoughts on him and how good he really can be if fleshed out at his max potential. 💪🏾
@@imortaljooj i love playing her but shes not that good imo, i want her to have a rejump meterless, wasting 0.5 bar just to have decent damage on a rejumo is ass
i miss when people used to call him trash and i wouldnt get hate mail for using him. now i have to drink peoples tears while i falcon punch them fullscreen
Vegito is a prime example of why MIX is kind of overrated in this game. Like yes, if you cant hit your opponent, how do you win- but at the same time, there are characters who have crazy mix but cant get in on their opponents. Having strong neutral is equally if not more important in this meta since technically on some level, every character has access to univeral options like 6M, DR, delaying buttons, IAD Cross up etc.
You are a very eloquent speaker, very well thought out analysis. You should consider definitely doing this more often. Also question, you mentioned that vegito is the only character in the game that has full screen combos and can control where you land on the screen but doesn’t labcoat do the same thing? She, just like vegito can also choose to vanish and do a command grab to put you in the corner or use command grab without vanish to put you midscreen behind her or just use 214X spin and make you land right in front of her
Really good. Another issue with his mix is he doesn’t have a command grab to layer with and his 5L->DR on block is super slow (maybe slowest in the game) cause he can’t cancel it off 5L as quick. So for the most part, he’s banking that you balk at his pressure game and get baited into mashing.
If they just reverted his a assist and 5M I think he would be a lot more tolerable but that would probably kill him since no body was doing anything with him before he got those buffs
thanks, having a hard time fighting against him and im too lazy to lab him 😂, yes his A assist is his strongest tool kit, imagine someone on block string just mashing assist call when theres gap , easy punish
I’ve recently been playing vegito and he’s pretty hard to open up sometimes unless you have the high hit-stun assist up of course and go for some ambiguous command grab falling mix. I also have been playing 16 and sometimes go for a dr in between his assist because it has 2 waves, so I just sneak it in lol. Solo it’s not happening though.
Does fuzzy jumping up and back still make his normals miss? I feel like his normals will touch your hurtbox and jumping straight up feels a bit risky. I'm back and forth on fuzzy jumping vs him, because you have to pick your jump timing very well since any hit from Vegetto means death. It's more a matter of reading the player than reacting to what he's doing and punishing for a character fault, I feel. The weak whiff frame data on the ground is a good point, though.
it all depends on the timing, sometimes he will punish your jump startup, sometimes you will block the first part of 5L in the air, and sometimes he will completely miss(This is the one you should try to get most often as it results in a punish more often then not.)
This might be just be me but vegito A assist I think is half as good as is bcs since this game reward ehem mashing in certain way , his assist being so od punishes this interaction more than the other characters , i would still say he's assist and rocks are the best at doing such things but that's just my opinion I guess definitely needs to be toned down but don't need to absolutely nerf it to the ground
I think 3rd, I think gogeta 4 is the weakest of the 4 because out of lab, gogeta blue, vegito and him, gogeta 4’s assists are garbage compared to the three I mentioned so he will always be a point character, unlike the other 3 which are flexible at any spot
![VEGITO Guide by [ Tyrant ] | DBFZ | DashFight | All you need to know](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ua0tABCOFsQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Honestly, I think his A assist is the strongest part of his kit.
it is
You mean spirit sword?
@@KingPhoiinex no no his split finger shots (236s)
5m right behind it tho
yeah it is
Please do more character overviews like this. I really appreciate how well thought out your analysis on the cast is. 🤙🏾
17👀
any suggestions for the next character?
@@INZEM Aight personally, imma go with my boy Android 17. Initially it was difficult to say since I’m fine with whatever..but I feel as if 17 has so much potential with his rekka system in particular in how it can be used as a pressure, reset, mixup, conditioning tool and possibly more. I haven’t seen too many real guides or character overviews on him but I would really like or hear your fleshed out thoughts on him and how good he really can be if fleshed out at his max potential. 💪🏾
@@INZEM could u do with Kefla, plz? She's so underrated
@@imortaljooj i love playing her but shes not that good imo, i want her to have a rejump meterless, wasting 0.5 bar just to have decent damage on a rejumo is ass
I miss when Vegito was underrated
honestly, same
i miss when people used to call him trash and i wouldnt get hate mail for using him. now i have to drink peoples tears while i falcon punch them fullscreen
Vegito is a prime example of why MIX is kind of overrated in this game. Like yes, if you cant hit your opponent, how do you win- but at the same time, there are characters who have crazy mix but cant get in on their opponents. Having strong neutral is equally if not more important in this meta since technically on some level, every character has access to univeral options like 6M, DR, delaying buttons, IAD Cross up etc.
yes mix IS super important, but that means you gotta win neutral first to do it
@INZEM love you INZEM more of these videos please.
That’s why I still have faith in Ssjku
This type of content seems tailor-made for you, you have a lot of knowledge to share on the game
thank you! ill focus more on this
You are a very eloquent speaker, very well thought out analysis. You should consider definitely doing this more often. Also question, you mentioned that vegito is the only character in the game that has full screen combos and can control where you land on the screen but doesn’t labcoat do the same thing? She, just like vegito can also choose to vanish and do a command grab to put you in the corner or use command grab without vanish to put you midscreen behind her or just use 214X spin and make you land right in front of her
Dope video, patiently waiting for the M21 video like this 😎
Very informative man. I hope you this kind of breaktime with every character.
This is like exactly the type of videos I'm tryna see related to dbfz on YT. Reminds me of the Char analysis vids KnowKami used to do (come back Kami)
Hey bro, I just wanna say GGs for the matches we had recently? Had a lot of fun!
I was twotime5691 btw
Really good.
Another issue with his mix is he doesn’t have a command grab to layer with and his 5L->DR on block is super slow (maybe slowest in the game) cause he can’t cancel it off 5L as quick. So for the most part, he’s banking that you balk at his pressure game and get baited into mashing.
I always wanted LK to finish his version of this kind of series but he dropped the game so it's going to be nice see you go do it.
I saw this thumbnail and then I saw what happened in the intro and thought to myself "yeah I got mixed IRL"
This was a great video, please do more of these breakdowns! Man, Vegito is a good character
will do! thanks for watching i appreciate it
Thanks inzem.
I would also love more informative videos like this
If they just reverted his a assist and 5M I think he would be a lot more tolerable but that would probably kill him since no body was doing anything with him before he got those buffs
Love these types of videos keep it up
236S is what we Namekians call the “Michel” angle hggLul
LMFAO
Great vid
thanks, having a hard time fighting against him and im too lazy to lab him 😂, yes his A assist is his strongest tool kit, imagine someone on block string just mashing assist call when theres gap , easy punish
Can you do one for the other fusions ?
👍🏾
I liked Vegito on release, he was cool. The buffs were so unnecessary and stupid
I’ve recently been playing vegito and he’s pretty hard to open up sometimes unless you have the high hit-stun assist up of course and go for some ambiguous command grab falling mix. I also have been playing 16 and sometimes go for a dr in between his assist because it has 2 waves, so I just sneak it in lol.
Solo it’s not happening though.
Does fuzzy jumping up and back still make his normals miss? I feel like his normals will touch your hurtbox and jumping straight up feels a bit risky. I'm back and forth on fuzzy jumping vs him, because you have to pick your jump timing very well since any hit from Vegetto means death. It's more a matter of reading the player than reacting to what he's doing and punishing for a character fault, I feel. The weak whiff frame data on the ground is a good point, though.
it all depends on the timing, sometimes he will punish your jump startup, sometimes you will block the first part of 5L in the air, and sometimes he will completely miss(This is the one you should try to get most often as it results in a punish more often then not.)
miss the days when ppl thought kid buu assist was busted and vegito was mid tier
This might be just be me but vegito A assist I think is half as good as is bcs since this game reward ehem mashing in certain way , his assist being so od punishes this interaction more than the other characters , i would still say he's assist and rocks are the best at doing such things but that's just my opinion I guess definitely needs to be toned down but don't need to absolutely nerf it to the ground
Reminds me of when Knowkami did the same series back in the days.
lmao good attempt king, but they finna cook our boy :(
i want them to reverse that 5m and nerf the A assist for the love of god
yamcha technically has a level 4
Love the video, hate the character
I personally think he is 4th out of the top 4
I think 3rd, I think gogeta 4 is the weakest of the 4 because out of lab, gogeta blue, vegito and him, gogeta 4’s assists are garbage compared to the three I mentioned so he will always be a point character, unlike the other 3 which are flexible at any spot
5L 5L 5L 5L 5L
Nerf Gogeta Blues 2 M please
Inzemm click bait is amazing
I honestly don't want them to nerf his a assist.
You’re the problem
Also his 2m has a gap so yeah
what do you mean his 2M has a gap? you're thinking of his 2L.
@@aaronbenno1849 oh yeah u rite