Ha! Canuckistan! That's funny! I'm their southern neighbor, also known as Dumbfuckistan! That is a fantastic sleep system! The hood is cool too. You could keep it on outside the bags. Most of all, I agree with you about the YKK zippers. That's my main complaint about German kit is the cheap zippers that give out under stress. Fortunately with their flectarn shirts and parkas they also have a snap closure over the zipper.
Hi! No offense - just wondering: What exactly do You mean with "give out under stress"? Do You mean the zipper fails or that the zipper opens up without the using the gliding part? You are aware that the closed zipper of the german standard sleeping bag ("Schlafsack, allgemein II") should open by mere pushing from the inside in case the soldier has to get out very quickly? Just wondering what You mean... I have & use one, given to me by our army, and it is more solid than enough in my world... :-) ATB Gereon
19ghost73 - I meant the latter part that the zipper comes apart without the glider. I have to confess sir that it never occurred to me it was designed to do that. I can see the logic in it especially if it comes to treating a wounded soldier. I learned something today! It's just for my purposes it can be annoying. I should also say that when I called it my "main" complaint, I am also saying it was my "only" complaint. Bundeswehr kit is top notch!
19ghost73 - And I also was referring to the zippers on the clothing. My bag isn't German. I have mainly the shirts, trousers, puptent, etc., which is Bundeswehr surplus.
You are welcome. The main reason for the quick opening feature is when (during the night) the forward alarm post alerts the sleeping group: You push the bag open in one move, jump in your boots (don't fiddle with the lacing) and in seconds you are in your foxhole and ready to defend.
Lars we used the same bags summer and winter the cotton liner is like a boa constrictor and most annoying!!! It kept your bag clean when you crawled in with your boots on!! In the summer we would lay on the inner and just lay the outer over you or just lay on both and sweat with the smell of hot canvas plugging your nose! It is the one piece of kit no one complained about carrying. Our rucksack was made with space for it too be secured on. Our wash basin,towel, and other hygiene and shaving went in on top once you stuffed in the bags. If you had to go out to an OP you always took your bags it gets cold at night and before dawn as you know. You will love it!
Hi Lars, we never trusted the valise and always put a heavy duty garbage bag inside. There is a flap inside that has all the info on it. That is the top of the valise and should be pulled up to cover the contents before you use the draw cord around the top. The older systems (pre 90's), came with a black rubber air mattress as part of the kit. That was replced by a therma rest type, self inflating mattress and a Gortex bivi bag was added to the full kit. When I was stationed in Germany, we bought our own Gortex bivi bags and some of us bought U.S. foam sleep mats. They had to be cut down slightly for width and then we put them in the valise around the inside to form a tube that we stuffed everthing into. It made packing up quicker.
Hi again Lars, just another quick comment to share my experience with this sleep system. Alot of us hated the way it was restricted around the top, so we modified them. We would make a small cut on the inside of the channel where it meets one side of the zipper. Then you can get to the flat green fabric tape inside an cut it, then the top of the bag can open up quite a bit and it's a whole lot more comfortable. We did the same with the liner as well. As for the Dahli Lama hat (as we used to call it), I never used it. With the bag modified it was more comfortable just to wear our wool hats, called "Toques" (Tooks) here. I did alot of winter warfare training when I was in Petawawa and was very happy to have this great bit of kit.
Greeting from Canuckistan! Best cold weather sleep system I have ever used, been down to minus 48 with this system and slept toasty warm. The hood is amazing and really keeps the moisture from your breath out. I use a rectangular fleece liner instead of the cotton one, more comfortable and allows you to change sleep position (side/back/front) in the bag without moving the outer bags (thanks in part due to the weird closes around the neck design). Thanks for showcasing my favourite bag!
hmmm, the hood thing is cool. it's actually the preferred method because keeping ur head inside the bag causes ur breathe to be inside which freezes and sucks out ur body heat.
Good choice....absolutely. I ordered multiple times in Lasse´s Waldläufershop...never ever had any problems with the quality or the delivery! He´s a man of honesty who wants to deliver only quality stuff witch was tested by him self before selling/offering. Have fun with your new sleeping system. Greets from Berlin Germany!
I bought one of these too. It is great for outdoor sleeping. It is old school but I don't care, it works and provides great warmth and like you say at a reasonable price. I paid $ 200.00 Cdn for mine.
Thank you for being so practical ,, so many people have no idea about real life situations.. it is refreshing and a pleasure to listen to someone who really cares about others... Thank you for all your help
Bought a down sleeping bag when in my teens and still love it 40 years later. They are still cold in -36 degrees but can get a better sleep than most in the tent. That military Arctic Sleep system may be better since it has that awesome head/neck cover that is very well designed to stay in place and look like it will add a lot of warmth to the system. Watched the Russian school video and was amazed at how those kids were focused and got the job done so fast. Makes me wonder why we don't have anything like that here and what would happen if we were invaded.
Canukistan indeed. I've used one of those winter camping when I was a teen. Was fantastic and stayed soo warm and toasty. I do seem to remember the hood being incorporated though.
Gr8 video.i recently picked up polar u.s.military sleep system for -30.it has a hat also but mummy style with a special hood made to fit your head n keep warm.ty for all you share with us
I just picked up two of these for the family straight from canuckistan. Living in western Wyoming, just south of Yellowstone we need -40 bags if we want to get out and enjoy our gorgeous 9 months of winter. I'd love to see a follow up on this now that you've used it a few times.
I will do a sleeping bad video at some point, where these will be among the stars :) Damn! 9 months of winter.. Here I have about 6 or 7.Winter is quite nice actually.
I don't mind the winter here that much. It's a very dry cold, so it doesn't feel as miserable as the winters did in Germany when I was a kid. 9 months may have been a bit of an exaggeration but we can get snow anywhere from September to June here. However we also get some very nice days mixed in there. It's like living in the alps.
I had use them a lot during my service in the Canadian army except in summer, I used a Ranger blanket. the sleep system is a 6 piece. Valise, liner, inner bag, outer bag, gortex bivvy and the hoody.
The cords are paracord...I'm also CAF so I am very familiar with that kit as I have my own artctic sleep system like that. The trick with the valise (the bag) is to cinch down the outer paracord for initial compression. Then stand it up, rest your knee on the mouth of the valise to get the remaining air to escape. Then cinch off the paracord around the mouth of the valise. Hopefully I'm not telling you anything you already know. And, yes, it is a kick ass sleep system, used it many times, as cold as -40oC, and I barely noticed. Cheers
The cord on my stuff sack is surely not paracord :) It runs really bad in the channel. I cinched it down fully and applied some foot powder on the cord, and now it run better. I will change it out for paracord, but it's stitched to bag, so it will take a bit of fiddling to remove the original draw string. Anyway, thanks for the info on the bag and your experience with it. So far I have not heard a bad word about this system :)
I went to the website for The Sleep System bags and I wish I spoke German! I wonder if there is a English Canadian link for these! by the way, great video as usual!
I've been watching you channel for about a year now and all this time I felt you looked very familiar. I just figured it out! Drill Sergeant Zim (Starship Troopers). Concider it a compliment, hes one tough sob and one of the best characters in the movie ;)
About to travel to Siberia in car with my friend, so these tips are very helpful if our car brakes and we have to stay alive somehow lol Thanks & greetings from your neighbours Finland! :)
I searched through the shop for the sleep system and found nothing but knives galore, Axes, Rucksacks, cook utensils etc, a thing about sharpening knives and so on, but no mega sleeping bags...Shame it looks so good too, Lars. Take care...
Thank you, Lars. I will search more carefully next time. Now I must just learn a little of the German language and hopefully all will be well. Take care...
I've slept out in -25c on nothing more than a hole in the snow on a ground sheet with this bag and stayed warm. The only thing is that darned hood, the frost starts to build up around your breathing hole and eventually falls down your neck. It was rare for me personally to use both bags on a winter exercise if we were using bell tents , I just used the outer bag with the flannel liner, plenty warm enough,
Just checked out your link to awesome video, it's awesome what they teach their students at Russian school, brilliant and useful, strip an AK74, love it mate 👍🏻cheers Lars, your new sleep system should keep you warm too 👌🏻 atb.
Very good review and that kit looks like it can really do the job. Great material and thanks for sharing Your knowledge. Greetings from WW2HistoryHunter
Hello there. Great review. I have found this particular set Surplus New condition in Canuckistan for $400. Lots of Canadian Cold Weather sleep system component bags used and used as is for much cheaper. Probably same manufacturer. Will look around for different sources as it looks like a great quality piece of cold weather kit. Thank you.
the latest and greatest only, for the German military xD What I like most about it: it's only slightly bigger than my Berghaus Atlas Rucksack, and not quite as heavy. I would like to say what I really think of it, but then Lars and Lasse would probably rip me a second hole hahaha
If you have access to liquid silicone spray lubricant , spraying the draw cord down well might help with it sliding thru the channel. It waterproofs too. In fact there are silicone tent sprays as well, you may already know about, that may work too. I always use automotive / industrial grade silicone spray made by LPS here in the USA. It will go on wet but then dry leaving a film of slippery silicone.
No problem. Just try a sample test first. I don't have any experience in your application. Just know it has worked well in similar applications. Happy warm sleeping!
Hej there. Picked up a few Swedish poncho button tent quarters. Also decided to try a US Patrol bag as I believe an Arctic bag may be too much bag for my needs. May try the outer bag to have on hand. Found some older M49 Mountain feather/down US bags for $30 USD. Blanched canvas from the sunshine but still useable. Like the wool M45 bags that have the same Canvas cover for many USGI mummy bags. Gonna be a good summer. Skol from Sunny Okanagan BC 30C today. Swimming at the lakeside.
very good bag....used it minus 25 no issues. ..note the bag fits 19 year old soldiers better than 45 year old who have grown in size. ..I have also used 2 hudson bay queen sized blankets wrapped inside a large canvas tarp as the outer shell...both have plusses and minuses. ..get the down sleeping bag wet and it's shitty. like your work Lars. ..I will be in Russia this summer. all the best.
I got my order today. Excellent quality and good as new. Very unfortunately I am too tall for it. My shoulders are sticking out at least 10 cm. I am 192 cm and this does not fit at all. Will need to ship it back. Anyway thanks for sharing - great video as always.
+Survival Russia There are plenty of offers actually in Germany but I never saw any choice on size. Guess, there is just one size. I wonder if all the KSK soldiers have been choosen for their little height in order to fit the sleeping bags - just kidding ;-).
Great looking bag system and I hurried to the web site and couldn't read a thing !! Thought sure I could find a English translations. I didn't ?? I need a couple for the wife and I , just in case old people freeze too ?
Here is a link below to the bags, also known as Canadian Forces Sleep System. Scroll down the page, almost to the bottom and you will see some sleeping bags. Look for the "BW KSK Schlafsack". That's the bag. The owner of the shop, Lasse is a good uy and will reply in English. Tell him I sent you :) www.waldlaufershop.de/produkte/alte-gute-armeeware/
Hi! Very nice kit indeed. I have one that serves me well even below -30c. Don't forget to hang it when in storage, keeping it compressed will alter it's isolating properties. It seems you are missing the outer goretex shell, which is not that bad and can be bought separately anyway. ATB from Québec, Canada
Looks awesome, just very hard to carry without a pulk sled. What do you think of the Carinthia Sleeping bags? A lot of armies in Europe use them. And new gloves right? I own the very same pair!
Jason B As a US citizen, I resemble that remark. We can't help it, the Russians hacked our internet. If I were from Canuckistan, I'd build a wall on the Southern border. :oP
I almost didn't watch to the end before I began liking the German bag... I'd love to see you testing this in -15C. About the MSS... It has a cover over the face which I find useful in cold weather.
It's heavy, but I am not sure if it's heavier than the MSS. I will find out as I have that system too. We should have some more cold nights here, s o I will give it try :)
Helsinkipop Survival Russia One thing I'd like to point out, we use this system even in the summer here in Canada! As an Infantry soldier I would be issued ONE of the sleeping bags (I preferred the outer as it's bigger) and a liner in the summer. We would build a hooch(shelter) by teaming up with 1 or 2 other people and zipping our ground sheets together and stringing them between trees. We'd put down our air mattresses inside and then the sleeping bag. On a warm night you'd sleep inside the liner only with the bag under you. In Canada it's not uncommon to get down to just above freezing on an August night so we'd sleep inside the bag with it unzipped. In -15 you still want both bags but might leave one or more unzipped plus we sleep in just our underwear, not even long Johns at that temp. NORMALLY in the winter we have a 5 man insulated canvas tent with a coleman lantern and stove running all the time. We almost never used that stupid looking hood either, opting to wear our wool hats instead. As for the weight, each man would carry their own sleeping bag and mattress on their rucksack. Typical load out would be 60 lbs with extra cloths etc. Then we'd have on our parkas , wind pants, and white camoflauge over coat and pants. We'd have our firearms and ammo and be wearing snow shoes and THEN two of us would be tied into harnesses on the front of our 300 lb toboggan and one would be pushing and steering from the back with a bar. The toboggan contained our tent, stove, lantern, fuel, water, rations, saw, axe, shovel, and anything else we needed as a group. Each section of 8 to 10 had two toboggans and that would leave several soldiers not pulling a toboggan to lead and break trail and to provide defense.
You should check out some of the heavy winter clothing too. I almost bought a Canadian surplus winter parka a couple months ago in a surplus store near here. Very heavy duty, made to last a very long time, and pretty cheap too. I imagine it would be great for someone who would wear it hard. Same zippers btw. Only problem I had was the good was made big, for helmets I guess.
I thought I'd point out the flap with the label in the stuff sack is supposed to be pulled up and placed to cover the end of the inside of the hole. You should have no problem pulling that completely closed with the issued string too so I'm not sure why it's not working for you.
head out no breath inside no condensation good 5 6hrs at -60c strip down inside its warmer brand new 350 can. over 20 yrs ago. yours look new, good deal did your price include shipping?
That looks like the entire baggage Napoleon brought on caissons into Russia. You can pull out all the battalion cooking gear, a 15 man tent system, plus ammo, and armory therein.
The down bags I expect will rock during the russian winter. When I was young a new zealand company fairy down mad the premier sleeping bags in the world for cold weather and expeditions. As boys we new the catalogue of by heart and what ratings the bag,s had. I had the bush line which was -10 rated . It was about 4 or five in the order. The bag the rich kids had was the everest which from memory had a comfort level of - 28 and only weighed between 1.7 and 2.2 KGs. This model actually was the first bag to conquer everest. They also made a two bag system similar to your system but much lighter that was designed for sleeping outside at the south pole and was the first sleep system to cross Antarctica from side to side . The price for the everest was about six times the average salary about 40 years ago. I would keep these bags for the winter if you are sleeping on your woodsman's bed you will be plenty warm enough even without a fire. Down dosnt like water or lots of sweating body oils ect the down becomes clogged up. You also cant wash down bags as a rule. At the moment I am trying to convince my wife that I should pay $150.00 for a second hand sleeping bag that could be 40 -50 years old.
lars our Canadian Military Has Cold Weather Down lol...I watched the video of the school children very cool,in the West we coddle our children,we should take a play from Russias book and make warriors not wimps lol
Awesome little video. Those russian girls will turn in to intoxicatingly beautiful women, with hard inner shell. Back in times of Yugoslavia, this was part of high-school education, at a subject of defence and protection. In elementary school you would only learn about weapons on a Military day holiday, 4th grade and up. Today, we have discusions for Slovenia (one of former republics, now its own country) to bring back mandatory military service for men. Most people's argument, whom are for it, is just that: depussyfication of younger generation.
maritimespook this is old Russian tradition: one of the best world snipers of all time is Lyudmila Pavlichenko (309 hits) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
I have that too, it´s originally from Canada in lack of any even in german Army. I don´t know, if that ever was in use in the German Army as it´s way to heavy and bulky to be carried around. KSK was using an AJUNGILAK one. This system is great for dry (!) cold as it has a down filling. Didn´t you get the cotton liner that comes with it to keep it clean inside? That liner is pretty easy to wash and protects the sleeping bag from inside. I sell mine for €150 with brand new hood.
I have the cotton liner. I showed it in the video ;) Looking up the bag on the internet, I could see that only the Canadian Forced and KSK have been using it.
As mentioned before, I´ve never seen it in the German Army and I have no proof it was ever used by the German KSK (I´m from Germany). My very personal opinion is, it´s a myth copied by ebay sellers...
Rarely did I ever use the liner. Minus 40 outside the tent as long as the Coleman stove was on. On top of inner,boots and parka on, feet inside outer that was drapped over my back and shoulders. Only worry. That fcking stove catching fire because it's flooded. So we threw the book out and filled.lighted that stove INSIDE the tent
Awesome video as always Lars! Nice sleeping bags! And they actually use down! Oh, brass zippers! I wish they'd use them on more things. All I can find are these cheap plastic ones! Bah! Too much synthetic stuff now-a-days. Thanks for the links! The Star movie you linked in an earlier video was great! Oh my xD Just watched that video. I think it's important to teach knowledge on firearms in school. I hate how the school in the US treat firearms as miniature Hitlers... And it's safer for the kids. If your kid has no idea how to handle a firearm because you've "protected" them from firearms, they're more likely to end up killing someone or themselves.
Hej there. Awesome winter weather gear selections! Looking through surplus sleeping bags and leaning towards something flexible and always liked the goose down feather insulation. Old US intermediate bags, MSS Patrol, BW Tropen, British modular copies of Carinthia. Would like the Canuckistan cold weather although maybe too warm for Coastal climates and Interior BC Summer and Fall hunting camps. Oh well try and gather great info like the reviews you give. Thank you. Skol!
Have found some Canuck Bivy bags and some Patrol bags on sale for $50. Seems like a good deal. Bivy’s are $70. Looking the older US intermediate cold weather bags US surplus $38 US, borders are still restricted and shipping costs are brutal as I live 20 miles from the WA border. Looking forward to being able to drive down to pick parcels up in Washington again. Skol!
? Is the outer sleeping bag taller? So that it would cover your head and Hoodie. So the bigger sleeping bag I imagine is taller so you head is still undercover making the head cave for breath and ventilation consideration. I have made my own Canadian Tire Winter sleep system that cost about the same. that worked for -20c.
Ha! Canuckistan! That's funny! I'm their southern neighbor, also known as Dumbfuckistan! That is a fantastic sleep system! The hood is cool too. You could keep it on outside the bags. Most of all, I agree with you about the YKK zippers. That's my main complaint about German kit is the cheap zippers that give out under stress. Fortunately with their flectarn shirts and parkas they also have a snap closure over the zipper.
LOL :) Awesome!
Hi! No offense - just wondering: What exactly do You mean with "give out under stress"? Do You mean the zipper fails or that the zipper opens up without the using the gliding part? You are aware that the closed zipper of the german standard sleeping bag ("Schlafsack, allgemein II") should open by mere pushing from the inside in case the soldier has to get out very quickly? Just wondering what You mean... I have & use one, given to me by our army, and it is more solid than enough in my world... :-) ATB Gereon
19ghost73 - I meant the latter part that the zipper comes apart without the glider. I have to confess sir that it never occurred to me it was designed to do that. I can see the logic in it especially if it comes to treating a wounded soldier. I learned something today! It's just for my purposes it can be annoying. I should also say that when I called it my "main" complaint, I am also saying it was my "only" complaint. Bundeswehr kit is top notch!
19ghost73 - And I also was referring to the zippers on the clothing. My bag isn't German. I have mainly the shirts, trousers, puptent, etc., which is Bundeswehr surplus.
You are welcome. The main reason for the quick opening feature is when (during the night) the forward alarm post alerts the sleeping group: You push the bag open in one move, jump in your boots (don't fiddle with the lacing) and in seconds you are in your foxhole and ready to defend.
Lars we used the same bags summer and winter the cotton liner is like a boa constrictor and most annoying!!! It kept your bag clean when you crawled in with your boots on!! In the summer we would lay on the inner and just lay the outer over you or just lay on both and sweat with the smell of hot canvas plugging your nose! It is the one piece of kit no one complained about carrying. Our rucksack was made with space for it too be secured on. Our wash basin,towel, and other hygiene and shaving went in on top once you stuffed in the bags. If you had to go out to an OP you always took your bags it gets cold at night and before dawn as you know. You will love it!
Thank you for the constrictor info, and info in general A J!
Hi Lars, we never trusted the valise and always put a heavy duty garbage bag inside. There is a flap inside that has all the info on it. That is the top of the valise and should be pulled up to cover the contents before you use the draw cord around the top. The older systems (pre 90's), came with a black rubber air mattress as part of the kit. That was replced by a therma rest type, self inflating mattress and a Gortex bivi bag was added to the full kit. When I was stationed in Germany, we bought our own Gortex bivi bags and some of us bought U.S. foam sleep mats. They had to be cut down slightly for width and then we put them in the valise around the inside to form a tube that we stuffed everthing into. It made packing up quicker.
Just visited Waldlaufershop and spent my pension!!!! Beans on toast all next week...happy days! 😂
Hi again Lars, just another quick comment to share my experience with this sleep system. Alot of us hated the way it was restricted around the top, so we modified them. We would make a small cut on the inside of the channel where it meets one side of the zipper. Then you can get to the flat green fabric tape inside an cut it, then the top of the bag can open up quite a bit and it's a whole lot more comfortable. We did the same with the liner as well. As for the Dahli Lama hat (as we used to call it), I never used it. With the bag modified it was more comfortable just to wear our wool hats, called "Toques" (Tooks) here. I did alot of winter warfare training when I was in Petawawa and was very happy to have this great bit of kit.
Being from Canuckistan, I must endorse with this video. Thanks Lars🇨🇦
Soon as I heard the word "down", my ears perked up. Also brass zippers? This is good stuff!
It's good stuff alright :)
We had some of these Canadian Military sleeping bags growing up here in Canada 🇨🇦 Very warm! They have to be!
Stephen Scott We used to use the hood for sentry duty when we trained in the Arctic, good backup for the parka
Can't stop watching Survival Russia! It's a marathon I should be going to bed but to hell with it hahaha
Greeting from Canuckistan! Best cold weather sleep system I have ever used, been down to minus 48 with this system and slept toasty warm. The hood is amazing and really keeps the moisture from your breath out. I use a rectangular fleece liner instead of the cotton one, more comfortable and allows you to change sleep position (side/back/front) in the bag without moving the outer bags (thanks in part due to the weird closes around the neck design). Thanks for showcasing my favourite bag!
My dad was in the Canadian Forces and we used those sleeping bags for camping all the time. They are amazing.
Bought one used for 75 USD.
I’m so stoked to use it.
hmmm, the hood thing is cool. it's actually the preferred method because keeping ur head inside the bag causes ur breathe to be inside which freezes and sucks out ur body heat.
Good choice....absolutely.
I ordered multiple times in Lasse´s Waldläufershop...never ever had any problems with the quality or the delivery!
He´s a man of honesty who wants to deliver only quality stuff witch was tested by him self before selling/offering.
Have fun with your new sleeping system.
Greets from Berlin Germany!
I agree. It's a good shop :)
Greetings Kalle!
I bought one of these too. It is great for outdoor sleeping. It is old school but I don't care, it works and provides great warmth and like you say at a reasonable price. I paid $ 200.00 Cdn for mine.
Thank you for being so practical ,, so many people have no idea about real life situations.. it is refreshing and a pleasure to listen to someone who really cares about others... Thank you for all your help
Thanks :)
Bought a down sleeping bag when in my teens and still love it 40 years later. They are still cold in -36 degrees but can get a better sleep than most in the tent. That military Arctic Sleep system may be better since it has that awesome head/neck cover that is very well designed to stay in place and look like it will add a lot of warmth to the system.
Watched the Russian school video and was amazed at how those kids were focused and got the job done so fast. Makes me wonder why we don't have anything like that here and what would happen if we were invaded.
Looks like a great system. I like that it is down but damn it doesn't pack very small.
Canukistan indeed. I've used one of those winter camping when I was a teen. Was fantastic and stayed soo warm and toasty. I do seem to remember the hood being incorporated though.
Why Canukistan? I don't get it, but I would like to know.
I like the hood instead of a mummy style. It makes it easier to get out of the bag and you could also use it alone.
They are a great system for the winter used them for years still have an outer and usually it is warm enough for most nights great videos enjoy them
So far I have only heard good things about it in the comments here :) I also have the USMSS and I can't say it's a warm sleep system.
Gr8 video.i recently picked up polar u.s.military sleep system for -30.it has a hat also but mummy style with a special hood made to fit your head n keep warm.ty for all you share with us
Wow now that's a big sleeping bag! Great video as always Lars
I just picked up two of these for the family straight from canuckistan. Living in western Wyoming, just south of Yellowstone we need -40 bags if we want to get out and enjoy our gorgeous 9 months of winter.
I'd love to see a follow up on this now that you've used it a few times.
In point of fact it is the 12th of June and we are expecting a foot of snow in the mountains, and 2 inches of snow in the valley for tomorrow.
I will do a sleeping bad video at some point, where these will be among the stars :) Damn! 9 months of winter.. Here I have about 6 or 7.Winter is quite nice actually.
I don't mind the winter here that much. It's a very dry cold, so it doesn't feel as miserable as the winters did in Germany when I was a kid. 9 months may have been a bit of an exaggeration but we can get snow anywhere from September to June here. However we also get some very nice days mixed in there. It's like living in the alps.
Canadian winter time kit is world class! I wish the US Army would consult with them for gear ideas.
I had use them a lot during my service in the Canadian army except in summer, I used a Ranger blanket. the sleep system is a 6 piece. Valise, liner, inner bag, outer bag, gortex bivvy and the hoody.
Yes, I looked up the whole system. I have to find out what the "Ranger Blanket" is :) Ity seems like a good system this one.
Survival Russia the Ranger Blanket is also called a Poncho Liner or woobie :-)
Yep, its a Woobie.... Pack Light , Freeze At Night,.....
patriotpioneer lol. I found mine was only good in the summer. I also would put it over my shoulders and then put my rain coat on.
@@patriotpioneer Not anymore. There are so many better and very light options that are rated to low temps these days... In comparison to this stuff.
The cords are paracord...I'm also CAF so I am very familiar with that kit as I have my own artctic sleep system like that. The trick with the valise (the bag) is to cinch down the outer paracord for initial compression. Then stand it up, rest your knee on the mouth of the valise to get the remaining air to escape. Then cinch off the paracord around the mouth of the valise. Hopefully I'm not telling you anything you already know. And, yes, it is a kick ass sleep system, used it many times, as cold as -40oC, and I barely noticed. Cheers
The cord on my stuff sack is surely not paracord :) It runs really bad in the channel. I cinched it down fully and applied some foot powder on the cord, and now it run better. I will change it out for paracord, but it's stitched to bag, so it will take a bit of fiddling to remove the original draw string. Anyway, thanks for the info on the bag and your experience with it. So far I have not heard a bad word about this system :)
I went to the website for The Sleep System bags and I wish I spoke German! I wonder if there is a English Canadian link for these! by the way, great video as usual!
I've been watching you channel for about a year now and all this time I felt you looked very familiar. I just figured it out! Drill Sergeant Zim (Starship Troopers). Concider it a compliment, hes one tough sob and one of the best characters in the movie ;)
I just ordered one. I can't wait to use it this winter.
Yes, Lasse´s Shop is fantastic. Great gear for fair prices.
Nice find Lars, good content.
BTW Lars, the wind has blown around the world from Russia to US. It had the distinct smell of butter and pancakes! Made me hungry.
Those bags are awesome I just use a -30 bag with a wool blanket
About to travel to Siberia in car with my friend, so these tips are very helpful if our car brakes and we have to stay alive somehow lol
Thanks & greetings from your neighbours Finland! :)
Happy to help :) Good luck Guys! :)
Nice link to the Russian school test! Cool sleeping bag!
Since you said those were down filled bags don't you need some kind of water proof shell?
damn huuuuge bag 😉😉👍
I am from germany and now the online Shop. .. I bought also a few things from Lasse. good military stuff.
Best regards Torsten
Very nice set up, you would like my old school US military mountain -30 mummy bag
Just what I needed!!
Usefull like always, thanks my friend ! Cheers from France
I slept in one of those in -35C on top of some pine bows. I lived lol
you always have the greatest stuff !!! thanks much for everything you do sir!!
I searched through the shop for the sleep system and found nothing but knives galore, Axes, Rucksacks, cook utensils etc, a thing about sharpening knives and so on, but no mega sleeping bags...Shame it looks so good too, Lars. Take care...
Here it is. Almost at the bottom of the page. 3/4 down the page or so. www.waldlaufershop.de/produkte/alte-gute-armeeware/
Thank you, Lars. I will search more carefully next time. Now I must just learn a little of the German language and hopefully all will be well. Take care...
Thanks Lars .
Thank you too friend :)
I've slept out in -25c on nothing more than a hole in the snow on a ground sheet with this bag and stayed warm. The only thing is that darned hood, the frost starts to build up around your breathing hole and eventually falls down your neck. It was rare for me personally to use both bags on a winter exercise if we were using bell tents , I just used the outer bag with the flannel liner, plenty warm enough,
Interesting info Kelvin! Unfortunately I do not have the outer Gore-Tex bag. I have the USMSS outer bag though. I look forward to testing this bag :)
Great system for me if it comes in a 7ft length. Brass zippers and down filling is always the best. Thank you Lars.
Dang,7ft!
looks like a great bag Lars like the hood stay safe brother
Just checked out your link to awesome video, it's awesome what they teach their students at Russian school, brilliant and useful, strip an AK74, love it mate 👍🏻cheers Lars, your new sleep system should keep you warm too 👌🏻 atb.
Canuckistan has some good gear. We need it....it gets freaking cold in northern Canuckistan! Lol. Carry on,Lars!
Very good review and that kit looks like it can really do the job. Great material and thanks for sharing Your knowledge. Greetings from WW2HistoryHunter
Those are some comfy looking s-bags Lars, and I like that hood it comes with. I'll check out the links and thanks for sharing!
I've seen some of these Russian school videos before, that was very awesome!
the hat is called the dwarf hat by the forces!
Hello there. Great review. I have found this particular set Surplus New condition in Canuckistan for $400. Lots of Canadian Cold Weather sleep system component bags used and used as is for much cheaper. Probably same manufacturer. Will look around for different sources as it looks like a great quality piece of cold weather kit. Thank you.
That unit looks exactly like the Canadian military Arctic Sleep system I used in the 1970..
the latest and greatest only, for the German military xD What I like most about it: it's only slightly bigger than my Berghaus Atlas Rucksack, and not quite as heavy.
I would like to say what I really think of it, but then Lars and Lasse would probably rip me a second hole hahaha
Awsome bag alright, will be having a look at these Lar's. Cheers for the vid!!!
If you have access to liquid silicone spray lubricant , spraying the draw cord down well might help with it sliding thru the channel. It waterproofs too. In fact there are silicone tent sprays as well, you may already know about, that may work too. I always use automotive / industrial grade silicone spray made by LPS here in the USA. It will go on wet but then dry leaving a film of slippery silicone.
I actually have some auto- silicone spray :) Thanks for the tip!
No problem. Just try a sample test first. I don't have any experience in your application. Just know it has worked well in similar applications. Happy warm sleeping!
Hej there. Picked up a few Swedish poncho button tent quarters. Also decided to try a US Patrol bag as I believe an Arctic bag may be too much bag for my needs. May try the outer bag to have on hand. Found some older M49 Mountain feather/down US bags for $30 USD. Blanched canvas from the sunshine but still useable. Like the wool M45 bags that have the same Canvas cover for many USGI mummy bags. Gonna be a good summer. Skol from Sunny Okanagan BC 30C today. Swimming at the lakeside.
very good bag....used it minus 25 no issues. ..note the bag fits 19 year old soldiers better than 45 year old who have grown in size. ..I have also used 2 hudson bay queen sized blankets wrapped inside a large canvas tarp as the outer shell...both have plusses and minuses. ..get the down sleeping bag wet and it's shitty. like your work Lars. ..I will be in Russia this summer. all the best.
Joseph Henry , I imagine that is right . I also think if you have two wet Hudson bay blankets wet it would be a pretty crappy nights sleep ?
hood is important keeps you from breathing moisture into the bag and you should strip to your breifs before entering its warmer that way
Goose down is very warm.
Thanks for another great review! You're an inspiration to us all!
Looking forward to tomorrow's video!
Thanks :)
You are more than welcome Sir!
Another awesome video Lars, cheers..Playing catch up as I have been very busy the last few weeks and will be up North again in the next 2 weeks.
I got my order today. Excellent quality and good as new. Very unfortunately I am too tall for it. My shoulders are sticking out at least 10 cm. I am 192 cm and this does not fit at all. Will need to ship it back. Anyway thanks for sharing - great video as always.
That sucks. It says it should fit a person 190-195 cm. Maybe you got a smaller one? I'm not sure if they come in sizes.
+Survival Russia There are plenty of offers actually in Germany but I never saw any choice on size. Guess, there is just one size. I wonder if all the KSK soldiers have been choosen for their little height in order to fit the sleeping bags - just kidding ;-).
Great looking bag system and I hurried to the web site and couldn't read a thing !! Thought sure I could find a English translations. I didn't ?? I need a couple for the wife and I , just in case old people freeze too ?
Here is a link below to the bags, also known as Canadian Forces Sleep System. Scroll down the page, almost to the bottom and you will see some sleeping bags. Look for the "BW KSK Schlafsack". That's the bag. The owner of the shop, Lasse is a good uy and will reply in English. Tell him I sent you :)
www.waldlaufershop.de/produkte/alte-gute-armeeware/
Thanks Lars, for taking the time and effort to make this kind reply, with all the help.
Hi! Very nice kit indeed. I have one that serves me well even below -30c. Don't forget to hang it when in storage, keeping it compressed will alter it's isolating properties. It seems you are missing the outer goretex shell, which is not that bad and can be bought separately anyway.
ATB from Québec, Canada
Looks awesome, just very hard to carry without a pulk sled. What do you think of the Carinthia Sleeping bags? A lot of armies in Europe use them. And new gloves right? I own the very same pair!
Great video as always and the Russia school one is great if only the US as a whole would understand how important that is.
Thank you, and thanks for watching the link :)
Jason B As a US citizen, I resemble that remark. We can't help it, the Russians hacked our internet. If I were from Canuckistan, I'd build a wall on the Southern border. :oP
I checked out that site wow great stuff!! I have to figure out dollar's is all. thanks again 🤗🤗🤗
The owner is a stright up guy.
Survival Russia looks like they really care !!
Let's see a test before spring bro. Looks interesting.
It's forest time when the wife returns :)
I really need to find one of those bags, very nice
Your just missing the old black air mattress ,nowadays they use a goretex bivy also ,great kit
I almost didn't watch to the end before I began liking the German bag... I'd love to see you testing this in -15C.
About the MSS... It has a cover over the face which I find useful in cold weather.
It's heavy, but I am not sure if it's heavier than the MSS. I will find out as I have that system too. We should have some more cold nights here, s o I will give it try :)
Helsinkipop it's rated to -40 and I can confirm I slept out beside a tent at -37 one night in the system.
- 40? Then -15C will be like sleeping in an oven :-)
Helsinkipop Survival Russia One thing I'd like to point out, we use this system even in the summer here in Canada! As an Infantry soldier I would be issued ONE of the sleeping bags (I preferred the outer as it's bigger) and a liner in the summer.
We would build a hooch(shelter) by teaming up with 1 or 2 other people and zipping our ground sheets together and stringing them between trees. We'd put down our air mattresses inside and then the sleeping bag.
On a warm night you'd sleep inside the liner only with the bag under you. In Canada it's not uncommon to get down to just above freezing on an August night so we'd sleep inside the bag with it unzipped.
In -15 you still want both bags but might leave one or more unzipped plus we sleep in just our underwear, not even long Johns at that temp.
NORMALLY in the winter we have a 5 man insulated canvas tent with a coleman lantern and stove running all the time. We almost never used that stupid looking hood either, opting to wear our wool hats instead.
As for the weight, each man would carry their own sleeping bag and mattress on their rucksack. Typical load out would be 60 lbs with extra cloths etc. Then we'd have on our parkas , wind pants, and white camoflauge over coat and pants. We'd have our firearms and ammo and be wearing snow shoes and THEN two of us would be tied into harnesses on the front of our 300 lb toboggan and one would be pushing and steering from the back with a bar.
The toboggan contained our tent, stove, lantern, fuel, water, rations, saw, axe, shovel, and anything else we needed as a group. Each section of 8 to 10 had two toboggans and that would leave several soldiers not pulling a toboggan to lead and break trail and to provide defense.
You should check out some of the heavy winter clothing too. I almost bought a Canadian surplus winter parka a couple months ago in a surplus store near here. Very heavy duty, made to last a very long time, and pretty cheap too. I imagine it would be great for someone who would wear it hard. Same zippers btw. Only problem I had was the good was made big, for helmets I guess.
I thought I'd point out the flap with the label in the stuff sack is supposed to be pulled up and placed to cover the end of the inside of the hole. You should have no problem pulling that completely closed with the issued string too so I'm not sure why it's not working for you.
I know about the flap :) It's impossible to cinch down the opening. Really strange.
Survival Russia yea. That is strange. I've used lots of these and never had a problem unless perhaps the string was accidently sewn in place.
Good video.
head out no breath inside no condensation good 5 6hrs at -60c strip down inside its warmer
brand new 350 can. over 20 yrs ago. yours look new, good deal did your price include shipping?
laurent vilodeau look them up used. I got mine for 75
Yes I have to buy this one as well thank you for review!
That looks like the entire baggage Napoleon brought on caissons into Russia. You can pull out all the battalion cooking gear, a 15 man tent system, plus ammo, and armory therein.
That looks really comfy Lars, although a bit big for my needs. I'm thinking of getting the Carinthia Defence 4 and 1
hahaha I've slept in those a lot. they work really well.
theres a button on that chord you have to pull to loosten up the chord to be able to open it.
The down bags I expect will rock during the russian winter. When I was young a new zealand company fairy down mad the premier
sleeping bags in the world for cold weather and expeditions. As boys we new the catalogue of by heart and what ratings the bag,s had. I had the bush line which was -10 rated . It was about 4 or five in the order. The bag the rich kids had was the everest which from memory had a comfort level of - 28 and only weighed between 1.7 and 2.2 KGs. This model actually was the first bag to conquer everest. They also made a two bag system similar to your system but much lighter that was designed for sleeping outside
at the south pole and was the first sleep system to cross Antarctica from side to side . The price for the everest was about six times the average salary about 40 years ago.
I would keep these bags for the winter if you are sleeping on your woodsman's bed you will be plenty warm enough even without a fire. Down dosnt like water or lots of sweating body oils ect the down becomes clogged up. You also cant wash down bags as a rule. At the moment I am trying to convince my wife that I should pay $150.00 for a second hand sleeping bag that could be 40 -50 years old.
great video comrade!
cool sleep system. go test it!
Yes! :)
I checked the link but the shop is in German, or I am missing the English button somewhere? That's too bad :(
lars our Canadian Military Has Cold Weather Down lol...I watched the video of the school children very cool,in the West we coddle our children,we should take a play from Russias book and make warriors not wimps lol
Awesome little video. Those russian girls will turn in to intoxicatingly beautiful women, with hard inner shell.
Back in times of Yugoslavia, this was part of high-school education, at a subject of defence and protection. In elementary school you would only learn about weapons on a Military day holiday, 4th grade and up.
Today, we have discusions for Slovenia (one of former republics, now its own country) to bring back mandatory military service for men. Most people's argument, whom are for it, is just that: depussyfication of younger generation.
ObiwanSchinobi Very Cool theyre thinking of bring it back we need that in the west !
maritimespook this is old Russian tradition: one of the best world snipers of all time is Lyudmila Pavlichenko (309 hits) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
Yes, We don't even let them bring squirt guns in some school districts.
I have that too, it´s originally from Canada in lack of any even in german Army. I don´t know, if that ever was in use in the German Army as it´s way to heavy and bulky to be carried around. KSK was using an AJUNGILAK one.
This system is great for dry (!) cold as it has a down filling.
Didn´t you get the cotton liner that comes with it to keep it clean inside? That liner is pretty easy to wash and protects the sleeping bag from inside. I sell mine for €150 with brand new hood.
I have the cotton liner. I showed it in the video ;) Looking up the bag on the internet, I could see that only the Canadian Forced and KSK have been using it.
As mentioned before, I´ve never seen it in the German Army and I have no proof it was ever used by the German KSK (I´m from Germany). My very personal opinion is, it´s a myth copied by ebay sellers...
That is not unlikely at all :)
yeah, no room in a berghaus atlas for a sleeping bag which is as big like this one ... ;-)
Another tip for down bags is dont store then in the sacks hang them up like a suit.
Yes indeed. They are actually laying on the bed at the moment :)
Rarely did I ever use the liner. Minus 40 outside the tent as long as the Coleman stove was on. On top of inner,boots and parka on, feet inside outer that was drapped over my back and shoulders. Only worry. That fcking stove catching fire because it's flooded. So we threw the book out and filled.lighted that stove INSIDE the tent
Awesome video as always Lars!
Nice sleeping bags!
And they actually use down!
Oh, brass zippers! I wish they'd use them on more things. All I can find are these cheap plastic ones! Bah!
Too much synthetic stuff now-a-days.
Thanks for the links!
The Star movie you linked in an earlier video was great!
Oh my xD Just watched that video.
I think it's important to teach knowledge on firearms in school. I hate how the school in the US treat firearms as miniature Hitlers...
And it's safer for the kids. If your kid has no idea how to handle a firearm because you've "protected" them from firearms, they're more likely to end up killing someone or themselves.
Thank you! :)
Top quality for sure. Nice review Lars. ATB Moose
yup thats canadian my friend!!
i have the 6 piece sleep system works good
very cool system.
Hej there. Awesome winter weather gear selections! Looking through surplus sleeping bags and leaning towards something flexible and always liked the goose down feather insulation. Old US intermediate bags, MSS Patrol, BW Tropen, British modular copies of Carinthia. Would like the Canuckistan cold weather although maybe too warm for Coastal climates and Interior BC Summer and Fall hunting camps. Oh well try and gather great info like the reviews you give. Thank you. Skol!
Have found some Canuck Bivy bags and some Patrol bags on sale for $50. Seems like a good deal. Bivy’s are $70. Looking the older US intermediate cold weather bags US surplus $38 US, borders are still restricted and shipping costs are brutal as I live 20 miles from the WA border. Looking forward to being able to drive down to pick parcels up in Washington again. Skol!
I was looking at the same youtube video from Lasse Waldläufer :-) He has some very nice stuff in his shop.
Ahh, so you also watch his channel :)
Survival Russia Yes with subscibe and subbell and all that :-D
fantastic video
: ))
Thank you very much :)
Have you tried the Savotta finnish military sleeping bag? it´s also awesome.
Dude! It’s Taras Kul’s dad!
YKK Bross Zippas..Awesome !
? Is the outer sleeping bag taller? So that it would cover your head and Hoodie.
So the bigger sleeping bag I imagine is taller so you head is still undercover making the head cave for breath and ventilation consideration.
I have made my own Canadian Tire Winter sleep system that cost about the same. that worked for -20c.