@@majedulhayat4518 at least AD wants to play. Kawhi and PG are always injured but even when they're not, they load manage and sit out games 😂 they have 0 fire
@@Piochasinchinaa lot of the stars are divas. Love the game of basketball but I can’t stand a lot of these guys. Thank fully the best players in the league- antentekoumpo, Jokic and embiid are foreigners and well rounded
Ayton is the biggest fall guy to me. I have never seen a softer bigman in my 24+ years watching the NBA. Dude is Charmin soft. Westbrook was bullying him in the paint in the Clippers series. Ayton is going to end up on one of those lists of worst contracts in the NBA a few years down the road.
@@MrJCerqueira in game 6 at home, he was terrible. 12 points on 4-13 from the field and -27 +/-. Just like last year in game 7 at home against the Mavs, Booker came up less than small with the season on the line.
If you're unbothered with getting blown out at home for 2 straight seasons then you're not a real competitor. When the Lakers lost to the Celtics, their whole team was bothered and made it a mission to get them back.
Crazy how coaches get fired for under achieving players. Suns gave up WAY TOO much to get Durant. Now those players are flourishing in NY. Sometimes basic common sense is overlooked.
As much as I love Mikal and Cam, picking up Durant was the right move. Makes the Suns a free agent destination and they weren’t going to win the title with that roster anyway
What a contrast between Booker and Giannis… If I’m a coach looking for a job and I have a choice between those 2 stars… well… it’s honestly not much of a choice. Booker rapidly becoming a guy I love to root against.
All those post game interviews are lame anyway. They ask the same stupid questions win or lose. It isn't for the players. it's for the media to make money off of the players. Without those post interviews the media has sh!t to talk about because the interviewers are all lame and the answers are always the same. But I agree with you.
90s nba was fairly weak compared to other decades. In 80s there was too many great players on too few teams. 2000s ushered in the lakers/spurs. Look at the teams bulls played in the finals. Which one of them really had a chance? 1994 bulls were couple plays away from making ecf WITHOUT Jordan. There’s so many great players in the nba today. It’s really not comparable. You can talk about the physicality all you want but todays players would’ve adjusted.
Devin Booker posting like he didn't have an epic choke job... And Nick, KD suffered arguably the worst injury a player can suffer especially at his age. He's made a surprising recovery and still a top 10 player, but the KD of old is gone.
Booker literally averaged over 30 points a game and shot over 50% in the playoffs but yeah he choked. It had nothing to do with KD being inefficient, the roster construction, and having no bench…
Is it really a choke job when Book was playing 40+ every game and other than game 6, he was historically efficient!? If not for Books first 11 games in the playoffs, they wouldn't have won any games.
Monty had lost the locker room... We knew he was gonna get fired after we saw the Clippers series.... Struggled against a team without kawhi and PG... When your strategy is hope your top guys score 70+ on 60+fg % yeah.....
The problem with KD's string of recent failures is that it recontextualizes his legacy with GSW. He has shown a lack of ability to make decisions and hit shots when defenses focus on him and they don't have to deal with the greatest floor spacing of all time surrounding KD. It isn't just the lack of intangibles that stop him from winning a championship outside of GS, but it is also just an issue of skill and IQ, and it has painted his years with GSW in a new light. Now almost everyone believes that Curry is better than KD and that KD needed curry.
Yall do realize no player in NBA History has come back and played at the level he has post Achilles. They are bringing all this context and leaving out the Achilles injury. Kevin Durant is just not the same player he used to be post-injury. He can put up numbers, but when you get physical his body cannot take the same punishment. Before the injury getting physical never bothered him but now it seems to be something that can work. He is only getting older also. He might need to put on some weight or something.
Do you remember when Kd, Kyrie, Harden, Blake Griffin & Deandre Jordan blew a fully healthy warriors team out by 23 points in their 3 or 4th game played together the season before last? That same season/post season Kd got called for 2 when it was an actual 3 against the Bucks; the same post season Kyrie & James harden suffered injuries and Kd beat a healthy Milwaukee with a 49 point triple double all by himself? The same season Kyrie’s off the court bs interfered with their play time. The same season Kd was injured a few months before the playoffs? If this team stayed together and everything went right they would be working on their 3rd ring right now. That’s 2020 - 2021 season is enough to show anyone that what you’re implying about KD is absolutely ridiculous
Brou is right about that 90s defense portion...theyre not used to players caring about defense that much so when they experience it their game/numbers look different
7:44 Brew was about to go IN on Nick for that "Iverson is not a legend" comment, but kept his cool lol. He was chillin and that made him sit up in his chair.
Look any suns fan knows Monty’s questionable lineups and game management as well as questionable play calling was the problem, in the huddle down 30 he was talking to them like it was a normal regular season game
Well can’t wait to hear suns fans explanations if another coach comes in and the suns still don’t get the job done. Teams always change coaches and people cheer it on and support it. But when the coaching change doesn’t make it any better no one ever comes back and just call it what it is. Players who aren’t capable of getting it done plain and simple
Why would a team give multiple players for Chris Paul who is on his last legs? He would at best, be the 3rd best player on a championship team and at worst, not even play when it matters.
CP3 is too susceptible to injuries come playoff time, making him unreliable and he’s too old at this point! A trade like Nick stated wouldn’t even make sense Imo
Stop promoting these immature kids to superstars when they can’t be professional enough to man up to the media after the game and show real respect to their coaches and the people who have helped their career. It’s not Monty fault they traded the bench for Durant.
Same story for the Bucks. Coach Bud took a team that won 15 games all year with Giannis and Khris Middleton. And instantly gave them success. In his 5 years he led them to the best record in the entire NBA by a wide margin, giannis developed into an MVP, and got them their first championship in 50 years.
This is the most entertaining debate show out there and it aint even close First take is just 30 sec hot takes Undisputed skip and shannon is basicly the Lebron show here i can see the sinergy and they actually have a disscusion.
@@fracmas5481 i agree. Just started watching this a couple weeks ago and i want to watch this over first take and undisputed sometimes cuz they all cover the same topics
He and KD are perfect for each other, neither are good enough to win anything on their own, and now they need ANOTHER star on the team to bring them home. They deserve each other. Nobody better EVER compare KD to Lebron ever again.
He could have been referring to the playoff elimination. It might not be about Monty. At the same time, he could have been echoing what Monty's attitude was. Did he go all out with his coaching? No. At least Nash went berserk before being fired.
Booker will be that guy every time he loses an important game. KD has a history of this as well. Any coach worth his salt should avoid the Suns like the plague.
Problem with KD is people know how to guard him in the post season now where a little physicality is allowed. He needs to hit the weights this summer and bulk up a bit so he can muscle through contact better. Also the coaching was terrible, Monty just shoved KD in a corner like he was Joe Harris or something, and let Booker hog the ball all game.
I doubt he is ready to make that great change at 34. Adding extra muscles may change his shooting dynamics and that may take him 1 or 2 seasons to relearn. I think he just needs a team that complements his strength not expose his weaknesses. If he plays for a team like Bucks that has 3 Elite defenders in Giannis, Lopez, and Jrue, they won't really need him to play through contact or defend at a top level. He just needs to hang around and shoot. Also, he can defend the easiest man on the opposing team.
People that tell pro athletes, ESPECIALLY highly skilled ones like basketball players to “just put on muscle” really don’t understand how adding muscle can completely negatively affect certain players. KD, Chet, Brandon Ingram are all players with naturally wirey frames that are NOT built to pack on a bunch of weight at once. These are players who have played a majority of their lives at a slim build. KD is as deadly as he is because of his build… If he packs on a bunch of muscle at this age, his career/ankles are over. There is a reason lebron plays at a much lower weight now and he STILL gets hurt a bunch😂. KD is old, u get less athletic as u get older. Everyone isnt lebron, KD is losing a step. Muscles aint going to slow that down, appreciate him while he is here
So does Steoh, Klay and Draymond. All carried by GOAT Kerr and his system. Kerr is like a super rich mans Popovich. Turned 2 role players into Hall Of Famers. Thats what made KD work and thats what made Warriors Work. GOAT Kerr. Turned Wiggins from a bust to an all star starter.
I'm pretty sure he was referring to all the negative chatter and doubts about them since they keep coming up short and not necessarily referring to monte. But I could be wrong
People seem to forget KD left the Warriors with an achilles tear. He basically hasn't been the same player since that happened. That's what it boils down to. On top of that he is aging.
He definitely almost beat the bucks by himself after his achilles tear. You cant use the injury as an excuse everytime he falls short. He even said himself that he felt healthy while he played
Kd was phenomenal against the Bucks 2 years ago, but he lost. It happens lol. To say he ain't the same is silly to me. Chemistry and a solid 8 man rotation are important in the playoffs. Suns had neither, that's why they lost.
Monty was an awful coach. He was portrayed as a good man but that can only get you so far. Monty never had the Suns ready and never made proper adjustments. He relied to much on Booker and too many isos. Monty was outcoached every series
What adjustments can you make when your stars are constantly underachieving? Players have way more impact in winning and losing than coaches. All the X's and O's Coach Spo is crafting means nothing if Jimmy isn't balling. CP3, Book and Ayton constantly let Monty down when it counted
Monty didn’t even have half the squad he needed to get anywhere near a championship. And I’m saying that as a huge Sun’s fan. The GM/organization let him down by not giving them a full team to work with. No one could have coached that mess. They didn’t even have a steady starting 5. The lineup changed every game, regardless of injuries. He was set up to fail.
@michaelkelly4314 did you watch the suns? Lol I can go through paragraphs as to why they're were no proper adjustments. You can tell by then getting blown in the 1st and 3 quarters when the other coach made adjustments. Did you watch the clippers series? Ty Lue made proper adjustments and made his role players look like a really good team. Monty was outcoached that series and if Kawhi and PG were healthy than the Suns would've lost in the first round. Denver series Monty ran nothing but iso ball. Denver was bound to double and even triple Booker and KD. We're there any adjustments? Nope. Now that Monty is fired, do you wonder why any Suns players haven't sent any tribute or thanks to Monty? None.
@shaybelle8495 yeah maybe 1 series or 1 year, but Monty has been outcoached every series since even the finals run. Booker bailed him out almost every year. He should've been fired last year when they got blown out after the first quarter by a mavs team that should've been swept.
Bru is insane about Ayton. He needs to go. And his point about "A guy who gives you 18 and 10" isn't even accurate. Ayton doesn't even consistently produce those numbers. Bru is always talking about "trying" something when the writing has been on the wall for years. Just cut the losses and let him go somewhere he wants to be. The clock is ticking on KD and wasting time on Ayton is just going to squander that.
As a Suns fan I'm going to miss Monty, but unfortunately it was his time to go. I'm happy that he and CP got us back to a winning team after 10 years, but they never let players develop or create their own shots. Look at Bridges and look Ayton for example. I always said Bridges has Kawhi potential (skill wise) and now look. As far as Ayton goes, it is both their faults. Monty and CP used the #1 pick (over Luka and Trae Young!) as a pick and roll player which lowered his stats, but on the other hand Ayton is soft and clumsy. However, Ayton does have a lot of skill offensively. Suns need to find more players that want to create their own shots and a coach thats not afraid to let players outside of Booker and KD do that as well.
Agreed with you.. however wouldn’t blame him on the Ayton draft, as Ayton’s caliber was the prevailing narrative at the time, with Luca being touted as the hit or miss pick.
Crazy how they never point out this guy came back better than any player that had the same injury. Can’t name one that made the all start team after that injury. Clowns. 🤦🏽♂️
So what you’re saying is that he isn’t that guy anymore ? Ok that’s all we want to hear, not KD is the best player in the world lol, he isn’t even Top 5 at this point, and barely Top 10 i would put him around 8-9
@@Anthonydu01630 KD was in MVP talks last year and this year before freak accidents of people falling into his leg. He’s def top 5 if not 6 but can’t stay healthy
Booker needs to grow up and tone the ego down. Kobe would have never tweeted this after being bounced out like that nor dismissed an exit interview. As for KD, yes staying in BK until at least this summer was definitely the wizest decision from a basketball and business perspective. Could have had a similar or maybe even deeper playoff run there. I mean look at the Knicks this year and the Heat back to the ECF again
@@nopainnogain4147 I hear you. Not trashing but Booker is one of the few select graduates from the 'House of Mamba', graduating under the tutelage of Kobe Bryant. His public communication though more often than not doesn't reflect this at all. I've never seen Kawhi for e.g. who also was mentored by KB tweet something like this. KB talked after he walked not the other way around
@@nopainnogain4147 Lol Exactly. Instead of showing up at his exit interview, face questions, and take some accountability, he tweets these 2 words. As if not showing for his interview wasn't enough... I don't recall Booker missing 1 post game interview while he was averaging 40PPG on 70% shooting in that series against Denver As for Kawhi, maybe that's your perception bro but it's definitely not mine. #1 he always shows up to his interviews #2 he has carried a franchise to their first Chip as the lone star (Toronto). I think it takes a player some kind of personality (whether you're in introvert or extravert) to be the guy other players look up to
I'm sorry but no NBA team is winning a championship in this era with Booker as their best player. No defense, no slashes to the paint, just midrange jumpshots all day and culturally soft af
Monty got fired because of a guy that's not even in the playoffs this year. Not saying it's his fault, but he would've definitely had some more leeway if his players came through for him against the Mavs
yeah i think as time passes, KD's legacy will be looked upon more and more harshly. as you get further away from the moment, the 2 rings he won get bigger and bigger asterisks. and the way he's played worse in the playoffs lately due to more physical defense destroys the notion he would've dominated back in the '90s and '00s like Brou said. and they didn't even mention, other guys are going to potentially start passing him like Giannis and Jokic.
@@cozyay3768 i'd acknowledge that if he didn't look like the exact same player now as he did pre-injury. his game hasn't changed at all. the only difference post-30 is he seems more injury-prone.
@@evanclp514 his game has completely changed the production just hasn’t kd’s game used to be completely well rounded as a scorer and he was extra athletic..rn kd is not nearly athletic and his game has became midrange or nothing he has never had a problem getting to the basket but now his first step is completely gone
people criticize KD as if he didn’t have an Achilles tear 😂 an injury even normal human beings wouldn’t be themselves afterwards let alone a professional athlete & he’s still playing well
That's actually not a bad pickup. As goofy as he is, from a purely basketball stand point, he'd be a great 6 man that you play 28+ minutes. Fr, I ain't mad at that pick up.
Booker is softer than Charmin, and people at one point had the audacity to compare him to Kobe. Stay out of the yard where the big dogs play Book, it’s not for you.
I'm so happy to hear the real about KD. He can't fix teams with actual problems. You need a leader, sol. You need an iso guy for a superteam, call the jeweler.
Monty is a good coach. But he is the reason why they haven't won a chip yet. Suns up2-0 against bucks... Game 3 book is on 🔥 16 point lead... Monty benches him and loses lead. Mavs series he gets out coached by kidd and waits till down by 20+ before calling a Time out. Proceeds to use cam Payne and ayton.. when he should use holiday and mcgee. This year he uses his boys payne and shamet and waits until down by 30 with his arms crossed before calling a Time out. You can't come back from that kinda deficit... Glad he is gone
Stephen Jackson, said it was racist that Doc and the Suns coach were fired😂… racism???…. this is the NBA… 98% of players and coaches are BLACK….. i mean this literally: people are just crying racism for ZERO reason (examples: Stephen Jackson and Kendrick Perkins) don’t you think that it’s THESE people who should be “cancelled”?
They should ALL skip media, it's Hard to answer Questions as to why you LOSS! You are still Emotional after a Loss and the MEDIA continually try's to set these players up !! I would SKIP TO. 😮
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Bird and all the old greats were out of the league at this age
KD blew his Achilles out and haven’t been the same since..
DeAndre Ayton to play Milwaukee bucks that’s my pick
The jazz have walker Kessler. He's got potential.
CP3,Kawhi, and Paul George on the same team. Team doctor and trainers gonna be working overtime.
Trainer gonna need a trainer
i need to apply, i would be rich by end of the season
Best comment in the thread 😂😂😂😂
Add AD
@@majedulhayat4518 at least AD wants to play. Kawhi and PG are always injured but even when they're not, they load manage and sit out games 😂 they have 0 fire
Man is Devin Booker tough. It takes real courage to duck the media and tweet a number and a word instead.
Frfr. Say it with some bass in your voice Book.
The NBA is full of spoiled brats these days, a few notable exceptions but that’s it
@@Piochasinchinaa lot of the stars are divas. Love the game of basketball but I can’t stand a lot of these guys. Thank fully the best players in the league- antentekoumpo, Jokic and embiid are foreigners and well rounded
@@Piochasinchina same in soccer
Quit crying dog wtf 😂
I’d feel “unbothered” too if I could get bounced in the playoffs and just have my coach be the fallguy.
look at his actual numbers, he was the most productive on the team
Ayton is the biggest fall guy to me. I have never seen a softer bigman in my 24+ years watching the NBA. Dude is Charmin soft. Westbrook was bullying him in the paint in the Clippers series. Ayton is going to end up on one of those lists of worst contracts in the NBA a few years down the road.
@@MrJCerqueira in game 6 at home, he was terrible. 12 points on 4-13 from the field and -27 +/-. Just like last year in game 7 at home against the Mavs, Booker came up less than small with the season on the line.
He and KD did good though
@@MrJCerqueira great athletes have to step up when nobody on the team can contribute. Just like Steph with the Lakers series.
I love Wildes and his one liner punches 😂
you want him to say the club superstar part too? hahaha 😂
"wearing his uniform...like a baseball manager"
If you're unbothered with getting blown out at home for 2 straight seasons then you're not a real competitor. When the Lakers lost to the Celtics, their whole team was bothered and made it a mission to get them back.
Lmao 36 definitely bothered
It's like when someone in the comment section says "I don't care", it means they really really do care. 😋
Crazy how coaches get fired for under achieving players. Suns gave up WAY TOO much to get Durant. Now those players are flourishing in NY. Sometimes basic common sense is overlooked.
Yea, I agree. Giannis not working on his FTs got a championship coach fired. Tragic.
@@smoothsavage2870 these ppl in comments are lost asf bro
As much as I love Mikal and Cam, picking up Durant was the right move. Makes the Suns a free agent destination and they weren’t going to win the title with that roster anyway
@MarcusJohnson-ix2jt injury prone and doesn't win you big games? I dunno.
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If we have "Club Superstar", can we have a "Club Meltdown"? 🤣🤣
Yes please. Plenty of options these days. Heck if they did this then Dillon Brooks might finally win something.
Staring CP0, KD, harden, embiid
LeBron is the CEO, established in 2011
@@PearlJamGuy10 nahhh 2016 offsets it
@cali1427 how you end up down 3-1 against the same team you were up 2-1 against without Love and Kyrie? Nah, doesn't offset anything
What a contrast between Booker and Giannis… If I’m a coach looking for a job and I have a choice between those 2 stars… well… it’s honestly not much of a choice.
Booker rapidly becoming a guy I love to root against.
He's a touch better than basic.
He’s immature, and Durant is injury prone. Giannis is in a class by himself!
I’m a Lakers fan, so d love to see him in the Gold and Purple!!
As a suns fan i unfortunately agree
@@eileennardinever happening
Because skipping the exit/postgame interview after getting blown out on your own floor really screams “unbothered” to the general public.
All those post game interviews are lame anyway. They ask the same stupid questions win or lose. It isn't for the players. it's for the media to make money off of the players. Without those post interviews the media has sh!t to talk about because the interviewers are all lame and the answers are always the same. But I agree with you.
Yeah he’s one of the most mentally weak players I’ve ever seen, pairs perfectly with KD, who is the also the most sensitive
He's down bad
This pairing is probably the most sensitive players in the NBA today.
@@ConnorDamewood i love it...!!!!!!!...well said
Player's ego are crazy. It's rare to see a player taking responsibility, almost all of them are into the blame game.
Steph...
Todays culture I’m afraid. Embarrassing
I wonder why? 99% of them are black and have been told all their lives to play the victim role.
Brew kills it once again!! Great 90’s D take!!
96 Bulls > 17 Kd warriors. Bulls easy. Even more evident Kd soft locked by Tatum and Gordon Steph loss to a 38 yr old lebron .
@@wayne1698only think I can say here is that the Celtics was a group effort lol they circled that man like a group of vultures 😂😂.
90s nba was fairly weak compared to other decades. In 80s there was too many great players on too few teams. 2000s ushered in the lakers/spurs. Look at the teams bulls played in the finals. Which one of them really had a chance? 1994 bulls were couple plays away from making ecf WITHOUT Jordan. There’s so many great players in the nba today. It’s really not comparable. You can talk about the physicality all you want but todays players would’ve adjusted.
Facts Scottie & Dennis would've loved to lock down KD.
Devin Booker posting like he didn't have an epic choke job...
And Nick, KD suffered arguably the worst injury a player can suffer especially at his age. He's made a surprising recovery and still a top 10 player, but the KD of old is gone.
I want to like Devin, he went hard with his Kobe idol. But Devin is annoying, good sometimes then chokes. All the time!
Brooker was balling all playoffs carrying KD and the sun is should've carry him for once
Booker literally averaged over 30 points a game and shot over 50% in the playoffs but yeah he choked. It had nothing to do with KD being inefficient, the roster construction, and having no bench…
KD shot more out of iso in this series than any other in his playoff career. Kd is a rhythm scorer not a ball dominant scorer
Is it really a choke job when Book was playing 40+ every game and other than game 6, he was historically efficient!? If not for Books first 11 games in the playoffs, they wouldn't have won any games.
36? Denver owned him by 25, and last year Doncic violated him by 33. Book needs to get some math classes and grow up.
36 ....Durant number 35 and Bookers number 1 =36 did you not watch the video? 😂😂
@mj is goat did you get the joke ?
Lol still not as bad as Dillon Brooks saying he doesn’t respect anyone until they give him 40, and then losing the close out game by… 40.
I like how you didn’t give confirm if you watched the video 😂😂😂
@@anthonyauthentic7934 what video?
If I’m Monte, I could care less. Go coach another team Mr. Williams and do better. The knowledge is there, just display and demand more discipline.
Monty had lost the locker room... We knew he was gonna get fired after we saw the Clippers series.... Struggled against a team without kawhi and PG... When your strategy is hope your top guys score 70+ on 60+fg % yeah.....
Wildes going crazy on the adlibs😂
Players do not want to be coached anymore.
“I’m going to wear my jersey like a baseball manager.” 💀💀
The problem with KD's string of recent failures is that it recontextualizes his legacy with GSW. He has shown a lack of ability to make decisions and hit shots when defenses focus on him and they don't have to deal with the greatest floor spacing of all time surrounding KD. It isn't just the lack of intangibles that stop him from winning a championship outside of GS, but it is also just an issue of skill and IQ, and it has painted his years with GSW in a new light. Now almost everyone believes that Curry is better than KD and that KD needed curry.
You sound mentally ill lmao, KD is 35 coming off of a career ending injury
Yall do realize no player in NBA History has come back and played at the level he has post Achilles. They are bringing all this context and leaving out the Achilles injury. Kevin Durant is just not the same player he used to be post-injury. He can put up numbers, but when you get physical his body cannot take the same punishment.
Before the injury getting physical never bothered him but now it seems to be something that can work. He is only getting older also. He might need to put on some weight or something.
Do you remember when Kd, Kyrie, Harden, Blake Griffin & Deandre Jordan blew a fully healthy warriors team out by 23 points in their 3 or 4th game played together the season before last? That same season/post season Kd got called for 2 when it was an actual 3 against the Bucks; the same post season Kyrie & James harden suffered injuries and Kd beat a healthy Milwaukee with a 49 point triple double all by himself? The same season Kyrie’s off the court bs interfered with their play time. The same season Kd was injured a few months before the playoffs?
If this team stayed together and everything went right they would be working on their 3rd ring right now. That’s 2020 - 2021 season is enough to show anyone that what you’re implying about KD is absolutely ridiculous
That*
Kd is the only player in the league that is expected to win it all no matter the circumstances it could be 1on5 if ppl still hate
Brou is right about that 90s defense portion...theyre not used to players caring about defense that much so when they experience it their game/numbers look different
I would liked to have watched Dennis Rodman playing defense on Kevin Durant.
7:44 Brew was about to go IN on Nick for that "Iverson is not a legend" comment, but kept his cool lol. He was chillin and that made him sit up in his chair.
Look any suns fan knows Monty’s questionable lineups and game management as well as questionable play calling was the problem, in the huddle down 30 he was talking to them like it was a normal regular season game
Well can’t wait to hear suns fans explanations if another coach comes in and the suns still don’t get the job done. Teams always change coaches and people cheer it on and support it. But when the coaching change doesn’t make it any better no one ever comes back and just call it what it is. Players who aren’t capable of getting it done plain and simple
Why would a team give multiple players for Chris Paul who is on his last legs? He would at best, be the 3rd best player on a championship team and at worst, not even play when it matters.
Facts
Not sure if it is but possibly expiring contract ?
CP3 is too susceptible to injuries come playoff time, making him unreliable and he’s too old at this point! A trade like Nick stated wouldn’t even make sense Imo
Stop promoting these immature kids to superstars when they can’t be professional enough to man up to the media after the game and show real respect to their coaches and the people who have helped their career. It’s not Monty fault they traded the bench for Durant.
Same story for the Bucks.
Coach Bud took a team that won 15 games all year with Giannis and Khris Middleton. And instantly gave them success. In his 5 years he led them to the best record in the entire NBA by a wide margin, giannis developed into an MVP, and got them their first championship in 50 years.
Fox, please give First Things First a slot where they don't have to keep losing their shows because of other things airing.
This is the most entertaining debate show out there and it aint even close First take is just 30 sec hot takes Undisputed skip and shannon is basicly the Lebron show here i can see the sinergy and they actually have a disscusion.
@@fracmas5481 i agree. Just started watching this a couple weeks ago and i want to watch this over first take and undisputed sometimes cuz they all cover the same topics
There chemistry is unmatched there #1 sports cast to me😂💯
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Maybe Booker should be bothered by the fact that they got bounced by the Nuggets.
why? they had no bench
A lot of people in these comments don’t know ball and it shows. Suns do have a lot of work to do
Show that you do
Clueless
CP3 + Kawhi + PG13 = Team Triage
Devin booker aint that guy ...dude is a pure front runner
He and KD are perfect for each other, neither are good enough to win anything on their own, and now they need ANOTHER star on the team to bring them home. They deserve each other. Nobody better EVER compare KD to Lebron ever again.
@@ConnorDamewood lebron needs superstars too. No one can win alone lol
@@ConnorDamewood don’t compare Lebron to Goat Jordan.
90% of the nba is front runners. After all, only one team wins the chip 😂
First of all what LeBron had to do with this? LeBron need superstars?? You can't Name not one person on the lakers a superstar besides a.d
He could have been referring to the playoff elimination. It might not be about Monty. At the same time, he could have been echoing what Monty's attitude was. Did he go all out with his coaching? No. At least Nash went berserk before being fired.
Or he's just playing with millions of people
Speculation.
And just let them run rampant
What a stunning and brave comment from Dbook
Giannis and DB tweets - a clear example of humility and class versus the absence of both
These players are like teenagers sending out these little tweets.
Ayton for Myles Turner and Buddy Hield??
Booker will be that guy every time he loses an important game. KD has a history of this as well. Any coach worth his salt should avoid the Suns like the plague.
At this point, Devin Booker’s had as many coaches as years in the league.
I’d be quite bothered if I were him.
Booker and harden don’t do well in playoff elimination games they disappear when facing elimination
You don't do well in playoff posts.
you forgot embiid on that list
Chris Broussard’s commentary stays on point.
If you have to announce that you’re “unbothered”, it’s probably because you’re bothered.
People with courage usually say that to a person's face.
Problem with KD is people know how to guard him in the post season now where a little physicality is allowed. He needs to hit the weights this summer and bulk up a bit so he can muscle through contact better. Also the coaching was terrible, Monty just shoved KD in a corner like he was Joe Harris or something, and let Booker hog the ball all game.
I doubt he is ready to make that great change at 34. Adding extra muscles may change his shooting dynamics and that may take him 1 or 2 seasons to relearn. I think he just needs a team that complements his strength not expose his weaknesses. If he plays for a team like Bucks that has 3 Elite defenders in Giannis, Lopez, and Jrue, they won't really need him to play through contact or defend at a top level. He just needs to hang around and shoot. Also, he can defend the easiest man on the opposing team.
People that tell pro athletes, ESPECIALLY highly skilled ones like basketball players to “just put on muscle” really don’t understand how adding muscle can completely negatively affect certain players. KD, Chet, Brandon Ingram are all players with naturally wirey frames that are NOT built to pack on a bunch of weight at once. These are players who have played a majority of their lives at a slim build. KD is as deadly as he is because of his build…
If he packs on a bunch of muscle at this age, his career/ankles are over. There is a reason lebron plays at a much lower weight now and he STILL gets hurt a bunch😂. KD is old, u get less athletic as u get older. Everyone isnt lebron, KD is losing a step. Muscles aint going to slow that down, appreciate him while he is here
Devin choker and Kevin Ducant need to be traded
😂😂😂😂
cornball
Yep let’s call LeGM James to trade them.
Devin and Kevin need to be traded NOT Chris Paul or Deandre.
@@PenaldoWheresYourWorldCup troll comment
When a person talks about themselves in the 3rd person, I am sure they are not a real teammate yet
90s-00s was peak basketball.
If Durant doesn’t win another title, he’s going to have one of the oddest careers to dissect of all time.
Kd is overrated and overhyped
@@devontacosby8593 foolish. Casual take
Not really, KD could do it as a mercenary but couldn't do it for 'his own team ' . Boom simple
@@devontacosby8593his numbers aren't.. check the stats.
So does Steoh, Klay and Draymond. All carried by GOAT Kerr and his system. Kerr is like a super rich mans Popovich. Turned 2 role players into Hall Of Famers. Thats what made KD work and thats what made Warriors Work. GOAT Kerr. Turned Wiggins from a bust to an all star starter.
As fan of the Nets.. the way the three of those guys left!! I’m glad they’re out and didn’t make the playoffs.
They both did just kyrie didn’t
atleast y’all still got superstar ben 10
"Devin Booker... who had a good series... until he didn't" 😂😂😂
The idea of KD's talent is bigger than what he has actually done
No one giving multiple picks for CPZERO. Common Nick! He WASHED!
Why would the Clippers want Chris 😂😂
I'm pretty sure he was referring to all the negative chatter and doubts about them since they keep coming up short and not necessarily referring to monte. But I could be wrong
People seem to forget KD left the Warriors with an achilles tear. He basically hasn't been the same player since that happened. That's what it boils down to. On top of that he is aging.
Bro it’s a ton of players that are hurt or got hurt. KD should have never left OKC or GSW he was set up nice on both of those teams.
He definitely almost beat the bucks by himself after his achilles tear. You cant use the injury as an excuse everytime he falls short. He even said himself that he felt healthy while he played
Kd was phenomenal against the Bucks 2 years ago, but he lost. It happens lol. To say he ain't the same is silly to me. Chemistry and a solid 8 man rotation are important in the playoffs. Suns had neither, that's why they lost.
even before injury he cant carry a team to championship
Not the same player since achilles tear? Lmfao 😆 same stats, just more injury prone. Now if you want to applied that to klay,then you got my vote 😆
Funny how KD said LeBron brings drama, but since he's said that all his teams have been nothing but negative drama
That Kd stat shows you they just be looking for something to talk about
I just got to that part of the video 🤦🏾♂️
Booker is a diva , I’ve lost a lot of respect for that dude.
So it's the coach fault they got no bench😂
I was thinking the same thing 🤔
Booker could have responded differently. Not a fan.
Monty was an awful coach. He was portrayed as a good man but that can only get you so far. Monty never had the Suns ready and never made proper adjustments. He relied to much on Booker and too many isos. Monty was outcoached every series
He won coach of the year twice and got to the finals. DGFUK U TALKING ABOUT
What adjustments can you make when your stars are constantly underachieving? Players have way more impact in winning and losing than coaches. All the X's and O's Coach Spo is crafting means nothing if Jimmy isn't balling. CP3, Book and Ayton constantly let Monty down when it counted
Monty didn’t even have half the squad he needed to get anywhere near a championship. And I’m saying that as a huge Sun’s fan. The GM/organization let him down by not giving them a full team to work with. No one could have coached that mess. They didn’t even have a steady starting 5. The lineup changed every game, regardless of injuries. He was set up to fail.
@michaelkelly4314 did you watch the suns? Lol I can go through paragraphs as to why they're were no proper adjustments. You can tell by then getting blown in the 1st and 3 quarters when the other coach made adjustments. Did you watch the clippers series? Ty Lue made proper adjustments and made his role players look like a really good team. Monty was outcoached that series and if Kawhi and PG were healthy than the Suns would've lost in the first round. Denver series Monty ran nothing but iso ball. Denver was bound to double and even triple Booker and KD. We're there any adjustments? Nope. Now that Monty is fired, do you wonder why any Suns players haven't sent any tribute or thanks to Monty? None.
@shaybelle8495 yeah maybe 1 series or 1 year, but Monty has been outcoached every series since even the finals run. Booker bailed him out almost every year. He should've been fired last year when they got blown out after the first quarter by a mavs team that should've been swept.
Thought Monty was a player's Coach. Apparently the players were not infatuated with Monty
Bru is insane about Ayton. He needs to go. And his point about "A guy who gives you 18 and 10" isn't even accurate. Ayton doesn't even consistently produce those numbers. Bru is always talking about "trying" something when the writing has been on the wall for years. Just cut the losses and let him go somewhere he wants to be. The clock is ticking on KD and wasting time on Ayton is just going to squander that.
How does he not consistently average 18 and 10 when they were his averages from this past season casual 😂
@@harrissr.615 He averages 18 and 10 in meaningless games. The Suns need those averages in the playoffs. Not the regular season
@@mactrilogy6030 the team was trash till ayton came,he has made a difference
My jazz aint touchin DA...brooo lololol
It's funny how no trolls mentioned Booker injury game 5 😂
I thought it meant Marcus Smart was winning NBA Finals MVP
As a Suns fan I'm going to miss Monty, but unfortunately it was his time to go. I'm happy that he and CP got us back to a winning team after 10 years, but they never let players develop or create their own shots. Look at Bridges and look Ayton for example. I always said Bridges has Kawhi potential (skill wise) and now look. As far as Ayton goes, it is both their faults. Monty and CP used the #1 pick (over Luka and Trae Young!) as a pick and roll player which lowered his stats, but on the other hand Ayton is soft and clumsy. However, Ayton does have a lot of skill offensively. Suns need to find more players that want to create their own shots and a coach thats not afraid to let players outside of Booker and KD do that as well.
Warriors can use um oooooowwp
Booker needs to show up in big games. 2 years in a row he is missing in elimination games
Agreed with you.. however wouldn’t blame him on the Ayton draft, as Ayton’s caliber was the prevailing narrative at the time, with Luca being touted as the hit or miss pick.
Mew coach next year let's see what u say next year
Don't you ever disrespect me lookin like a hotel concierge in Paris.
Crazy how they never point out this guy came back better than any player that had the same injury. Can’t name one that made the all start team after that injury. Clowns. 🤦🏽♂️
Dang u right. I even forgot he tore his achilles. It felt like so long ago. Still amazing to watch
So what you’re saying is that he isn’t that guy anymore ? Ok that’s all we want to hear, not KD is the best player in the world lol, he isn’t even Top 5 at this point, and barely Top 10 i would put him around 8-9
@@Anthonydu01630 KD was in MVP talks last year and this year before freak accidents of people falling into his leg. He’s def top 5 if not 6 but can’t stay healthy
I was just thinking Ty Lue to Philly or Milwaukee
Booker needs to grow up and tone the ego down. Kobe would have never tweeted this after being bounced out like that nor dismissed an exit interview.
As for KD, yes staying in BK until at least this summer was definitely the wizest decision from a basketball and business perspective. Could have had a similar or maybe even deeper playoff run there. I mean look at the Knicks this year and the Heat back to the ECF again
You disrespect Kobe every time you use his name to trash another player
@@nopainnogain4147 I hear you. Not trashing but Booker is one of the few select graduates from the 'House of Mamba', graduating under the tutelage of Kobe Bryant. His public communication though more often than not doesn't reflect this at all. I've never seen Kawhi for e.g. who also was mentored by KB tweet something like this. KB talked after he walked not the other way around
@@beyondXnOs Kawhi has no personality and Booker tweeted 2 words lol
@@nopainnogain4147 Lol Exactly.
Instead of showing up at his exit interview, face questions, and take some accountability, he tweets these 2 words. As if not showing for his interview wasn't enough...
I don't recall Booker missing 1 post game interview while he was averaging 40PPG on 70% shooting in that series against Denver
As for Kawhi, maybe that's your perception bro but it's definitely not mine. #1 he always shows up to his interviews #2 he has carried a franchise to their first Chip as the lone star (Toronto). I think it takes a player some kind of personality (whether you're in introvert or extravert) to be the guy other players look up to
@@beyondXnOs Why are you so obsessed that he didn't talk to the media? Why is it so important to you that he talks to the media?
I'm sorry but no NBA team is winning a championship in this era with Booker as their best player. No defense, no slashes to the paint, just midrange jumpshots all day and culturally soft af
Monty got fired because of a guy that's not even in the playoffs this year. Not saying it's his fault, but he would've definitely had some more leeway if his players came through for him against the Mavs
The media are the only ones actually upset at all about Book not doing media availability
Unbothered cuz he's going on a fishing trip
KD is learning that the grass is not always greener on the other side. Wherever you go, there will be problems.
yeah i think as time passes, KD's legacy will be looked upon more and more harshly. as you get further away from the moment, the 2 rings he won get bigger and bigger asterisks. and the way he's played worse in the playoffs lately due to more physical defense destroys the notion he would've dominated back in the '90s and '00s like Brou said. and they didn't even mention, other guys are going to potentially start passing him like Giannis and Jokic.
Or maybe just maybe he’s at a new stage of his career due to going through one of the worst injuries a nba player can go thru..
KD was never "him". He is a really talented scorer during the regular season but he is not clutch.
@@cozyay3768 i'd acknowledge that if he didn't look like the exact same player now as he did pre-injury. his game hasn't changed at all. the only difference post-30 is he seems more injury-prone.
@@evanclp514he could drive to the rim way better. Go watch okc id
@@evanclp514 his game has completely changed the production just hasn’t kd’s game used to be completely well rounded as a scorer and he was extra athletic..rn kd is not nearly athletic and his game has became midrange or nothing he has never had a problem getting to the basket but now his first step is completely gone
Paul i understand but ayton I'm not sure of.. They will be like the nets no rim protection..
My armpits smell good , real gooood..
people who listen to Nick wright talk about basketball dont love anything
I can’t believe anyone would listen to anything nick wright has to say trade for 38 year old always injured Chris Pual can’t stop laughing 😂🤡🤡🤡
people criticize KD as if he didn’t have an Achilles tear 😂 an injury even normal human beings wouldn’t be themselves afterwards let alone a professional athlete & he’s still playing well
Why is the media so obsessed with KD's legacy. Harden and Kyrie's legacy never get any air time
Kyrie destroy they whole run besides 2021
Almost like KD had a career ending injury but came back 🤔
The Clippers better have the best training and medical team in NBA history if Chris Paul goes there 😅
Suns should go after Dillon Brooks. They need some defense
That's actually not a bad pickup. As goofy as he is, from a purely basketball stand point, he'd be a great 6 man that you play 28+ minutes.
Fr, I ain't mad at that pick up.
Yes cause they’d do well with more self inflicted pressure with the trash talking.
U heard em 🗣🗣
Miami is getting Ayton mark my words. The land of misfit toys, they always land the talented undervalued guys
Ayton is trash. He's overrated, not underrated. A poor man's Greg Oden. Oden had more heart.
For what? Jimmy Butler is the only thing you could want from that team aside from Tyler Herro and Bam.
Bam is better than Ayton so not sure about this one.
If Jimmy hated KAT I could only imagine how he would react
Bam is already better than Ayton
Booker is softer than Charmin, and people at one point had the audacity to compare him to Kobe. Stay out of the yard where the big dogs play Book, it’s not for you.
Accountability! Booker needs to own up. They lost because of the players not the coach. The other team played better plain and simple.
Greatest chemistry on tv. Tell me I’m lying!
Skip n Shannon then this show for sure. I love this group!
I'm so happy to hear the real about KD. He can't fix teams with actual problems. You need a leader, sol. You need an iso guy for a superteam, call the jeweler.
i can't stand the way booker is
Ayton to the Knicks for Randall watch
'Utah is not doing that trade' said Wiles lol
Funny how all the suns haters show up only when they up.
Delusional
@@AttackOnCowboys Go outside and touch grass.
Monty is a good coach. But he is the reason why they haven't won a chip yet. Suns up2-0 against bucks... Game 3 book is on 🔥 16 point lead... Monty benches him and loses lead. Mavs series he gets out coached by kidd and waits till down by 20+ before calling a Time out. Proceeds to use cam Payne and ayton.. when he should use holiday and mcgee. This year he uses his boys payne and shamet and waits until down by 30 with his arms crossed before calling a Time out. You can't come back from that kinda deficit... Glad he is gone
Devin booker is Dylan Brooks with a jump shot.
Nope, that post crashed hard core .
@@PlanetOfTheAztecs what's the difference? They're both punks that think they better than IRL
Stephen Jackson, said it was racist that Doc and the Suns coach were fired😂…
racism???…. this is the NBA… 98% of players and coaches are BLACK…..
i mean this literally: people are just crying racism for ZERO reason (examples: Stephen Jackson and Kendrick Perkins)
don’t you think that it’s THESE people who should be “cancelled”?
They should ALL skip media, it's Hard to answer Questions as to why you LOSS! You are still Emotional after a Loss and the MEDIA continually try's to set these players up !! I would SKIP TO. 😮