Leaving dreamworks animation for the fifth time
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2024
- I talk about my experience coming back and leaving dreamworks for the fifth time!
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I don´t care which Industry are you in. Just the fact that you made it possible to have an animation career, work in the industry, and share your experience makes you a big inspiration for me
This is the attitude we all need to have.
Well said!!
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Yes
I get knocked down, but I get up again, but I get knocked down, again, but I get up again
They're never gonna keep him down
Just sip the night away Danny boy
Get the lyrics right lol
never ever gonna get knocked up again
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You left just in time before that "Megamind 2" trailer.
That wasn't made in-house but by another studio
They did WHAT
@@cavemann_dreamworks + peacock (some streaming service or something) are making megamind 2 and it looks like a blend between cocomelon and the dreamworks tv shows like the puss in boots one and penguins of Madagascar
Who's gonna tell him...?@@cavemann_
@@yusufcoskun7914 I already found out. The quality of my day has overall decreased...
It is a very toxic mindset to blame someone or oneself for not liking their current job, and guilt-tripping them into staying.
If a job does not fulfill one's needs or pay enough, there is no reason NOT to quit.
"but someone would give anything to get into your position!" Is a sentence born of ignorance and obliviousness, with maybe a bit of even jealousy.
I completely feel you on that one... ruminating about possibilities always come to me, but being true to myself and to MY craft is what lead me to be happier with my art profission.... Thanks for sharing with us your thoughts, Toniko! I really look up to you!
wow, animation industry is really tough and even tougher when i hear your story in this video. I hope for the best to happen in your animation career, mr. pantoja and good luck with your future endeavors, wherever you end up!
It's crazy that you were working on the Croods 2 at one point, considering a lot of people from that movie went on to make Puss in Boots: The Last Wish
Your experience tells that it's actually not bad to work from studio to studio, as it allows you to feel refreshed with the projects and workflow without feeling stagnated with the same repetitive process, sure it can be stressful to be in a new environment from time to time, but I believe you'll become more used to the experience. In the end, you have gained reputation among multiple studios so you'll have a higher chance of working with them :)
Maaan, I feel you. I also boarded on PIB back in 2015 (from Vancouver). I held for almost a year before quitting.
One of the best bits of reflectivity that you've shared in your videos is your admittance to jealousy or poor behaviour. I think a lot of people need to hear that kind of openess to take some time to reflect on their own mindset and behaviour. Its all too easy to get stuck in a way of thinking that you can't do anything wrong and you deserve to be recognised, while that very behaviour is whats holding you back. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the video 🥺💖
Im only at the beginning of my storyboard adventure but i feel so scared when i see almost raw animation on twitter and its called "storyboard".😅
At first I was going to comment in the video and say how ungrateful you are, and that there are people that work their asses for years but because they may not be a social/visible/skilled enough they may never enter such big productions. But after watching your video, I understand your perspective.
It´s going to be an odd comparison but, while I´m studying to become a game character artist, I´m working part time at my local bar. I´ve worked in hospitality since I´ve had legal age to do so because my parents basically kicked me out of my house(but in a good way, to become independent). I´ve worked in big time restaurants and more casual bars. And man oh man, let me tell you that from my experience, working at the local bar near my house has been a much better experience compared to working at a two michelin star italian restaurant.
They expected me to know every single italian word, to have perfect posture, etiquette, be always polite, patient. They were extremely strict and threatened employes of firing them constantly on a daily basis. The working space seems like a shark tank where everyone is competing to not get replaced and there was a culture of gossiping and hate. Clients were downright unsufferable and expected a whole fully homemade meal to be ready in 5 minutes.
Down at my local bar, my boss is the chillest person I have ever met. My coworkers and I are like a family, we help each other and sometimes have drinks together. Clients are lovely residents and I know many of them because they are from the same neighborhood.
You know what is the funniest part? Both jobs paid the same salary.
I think that poretty much sums it up. I understand you leaving a company for a more interesting project and a better work environment. Job loyalty is not as important nowadays, unless you really love said company and want to stay in it.
That first part is exactly what a lot of artists tell themselves when they think they're being ungrateful while working under HORRIBLE pay and treatment.
"I wanted this, so not liking it is my fault, there are surely others who would've done better than me in this environment".
People who work don't work for the good of the job. In the end of the day it is about getting enough money to get by and feel fulfilled by your job.
There is nothing wrong with leaving a job that doesn't do one or both.
Bad leadership and a poor working environment are detrimental regardless of the field of work. They destroy the morale of good animators and degrade work quality. Life is not a sprint; it's a marathon. If you're always sprinting when you work, it's going to be hard to last long.
Hi, Toniko! I really love and appreciate the time you take to speak about your intimate experience within the industry and opening up to perspectives often not talked about enough such as work visas, the paradox of choice, and curbing burnout! Especially because it's difficult to find anyone speak on more "intermediate" levels of difficulty or knowledge that goes beyond beginners' starts and talking about the basics. I really appreciate you talking about how different productions are not made equal, and experiences even within professional spaces and productions vary.
I was wondering if you would ever take the time to speak more about the variety of experiences in productions and how to manage expectations? (Besides the types of people who chase after "the dream job") A lot of common feelings as a recent animation grad is the, "get a job, any job" within the industry, mostly led by the feelings of needing to prove yourself or to learn more about the pipeline better due to lack of concrete mentorship in some schools. I've seen some go into professional jobs only to get disillusioned after one or maybe even a few industry jobs because the jobs themselves had poor management that led to low morale on a production. I have a feeling that there are many that quit after a few negative working experiences in the industry, because some may be convinced that the industry is largely comprised of poorly managed productions, but it's to my understanding that it's not necessarily true and should not be treated is if it's a norm that shouldn't be improved upon.
What are your thoughts in general on negative experiences working on specific productions? (without needing to name them, of course.) And what is some advice to those who may have felt a little disillusioned, especially towards those who are trying their best to learn on the job due to lack of proper training/resources?
its a fantastic topic id love to explore.
Watched the video, and it helps me out a lot that you're posting about this stuff. You're a big inspo of mine.
However, I do have a few questions. When working in any of the studios, did you find that you sometimes wished you had a different job? Either a different job entirely, or a different position in the studio? (aka maybe a character designer instead of a storyboard artist).
Also, when you leave a company, have you noticed a difference in if they hire you back, or something? Like, does the leaving go on your resume, or damage your relationship with the company? Leaving work, to come back again, to leave again, makes me nervous due to like, if it was to leave permanent or even just long-lasting effects on where you get hired somewhere.
(Also I'm thinking of taking a peek at your courses, because I am very interested. It is nice to be able to connect + ask questions to someone that has already been in the industry, to see sort of some insight on it all before I make decisions about what I do.)
Hey Toniko! I am interested in buying "The Complete Introduction to 2D Animation" Full Package and was wondering if you offer any feedback on the exercises? Also, have you considered making a course on the process of making an animated short film?
When your art, craft, creativity and visions are being smothered and crushed, it leaves one feeling empty. There’s more important things in life than money. Sadly, that creepy AI will smother artist and art will lose its soul. Greedy corporations want to just push for the fast, easy big bucks they can make and to hell with anything or anyone else. You do you and make your life pleasant, and fulfilling.
On the topic of promotions, they remained because they were getting promoted, they didn't get promoted because they remained.
Would you reccomend qorking at dreamworks? Im planning to become a animator for my job after highschool :DD
This!!
I think everyone’s experiences are different. Some experienced at Dreamworks were great, others were terrible - so it’s been mixed. I think if you’re in it for the community, there’s a lot of good folk there at the moment!
@TonikoPantoja EEE thanks for the response, I probably will try to go there at some point :DD
honestly man just do what you can and want. you dont have to stay in one job forever since life is constantly changing. you can always come back clearly since they like having you there. plus you dont get locked down to one place
hearing your comments about poor leadership on dreamworks tv ( puss n boots ) makes me realy think that an union would solve a good part of thoses issuses
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It up to you . Personal I would stay
TONIKO! 🫶🏽😁
omg whaaaat
the title of this video is the biggest humblebrag I've ever seen
I think it's a good choice to leave, the problem you've been through is just going worse and worse, and it's doomed because how the industry works now, as long the industry doesn't change, it won't change.
I watched this vid
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Huh?
Margie Colon and Randy Snake (and their cockroaches) killed what DreamWorks was.
But the artists are my favorite people in the world, I would go back for them.
Shrek 5 leaks ?
DreamWorks is trash. Ruined by The Bad Guys, a movie I REALLY do not like. It's new Kung Fu Panda movie is a sham having a terrible fox character overshadowing Po, and giving us a lazier story. DreamWorks is too useless. I was a fan and I use to enjoy some of its fun stories like Sweeney Todd, Kung Fu Panda, Dragon Trilogy, and Prince of Egypt. I am just disappointed to the max.
The new story I made is too strong. Hollywood1 was too evil to people like me when I wanted to help out with new ideas. Been rejected and the trash woke1 system made DreamWorks a big disgrace. I made God1 Bow to be greater when i keep getting worse stories now from the industry1.
The how to train your dragon sequels were trash
@@mako3951 remake will be worse