You have my respect showing your methods to another seemingly without hesitation. I've always enjoyed your videos and I'm glad to see you spread the knowledge. 👏👏👏
@@copperinquarter wow I sure don't think there's anyone else other than him on RUclips who shows the processes that he shows I wouldn't know if he's wasteful or not but what other channel would you recommend that would show how wasteful stretips is ?
Thanks Sreetips! I really enjoyed this process and I think it will become very useful for me in the future. Thanks again for all your info and knowledge, it has been invaluable for learning the wet chemistry of precious metals!
The fact that you shared your mistakes with us is honestly worth a lot more than your successes. Significantly more educational than a heavily edited "perfect" process. Thanks for sharing!
Investing in precious metals such as gold and silver is a smart financial decision, in a few years people will be kicking themselves in regret for missing the opportunity of buying and investing in gold.
I'm at the 50 minute mark and and I was just thinking that I'd love to watch Sreetips have a go at his sample when I scrolled down and read your comment. I'm suddenly a lot more interested in what's happening.
Jason, when you showed that beggining shot of the sky... aka... daylight! It dern near skeer the daylights out of me... durn! Dat a long dong, way up! Whooo~wee baybe! Got any yeller in that shaft feller??? I'm talkin bout colors! You kno the kind... black, & gleaming gold color feller!
I think it's incredible I've watched you, Dan, Pauly, Chris and Sreetips (and others) separately only to see you've all found each other producing quality videos. I would love to see all of you incorporate and produce some joint venture some time with all the others!
agree wholeheartedly. it's a shame Sreetips does his refining more as a hobby. i'd like to see the full process from the mining/prospecting guys to Sreetips' chemically refined "three nines" fine metals. and i bet the silver crystals would be glorious.
The orange red in solution was the reaction of silver dissolving in nitric acid. If he had allowed the reaction to continue, the solution would have eventually became colorless. That reaction was nowhere near complete. That small amount of palladium in solution or traces of gold dissolved by nitric acid can not account for that deep of an orange red color.
I would recommend 2 things Jason: 1: you want to heat and then slowly boil your nitric acid with the alloy until there are absolutely zero fumes. This indicates there is little to no excess nitric acid. Another way would be to pour the hot nitric into a beaker with some sterling at a known weight in it. When you go to cement the silver, you can also weigh the sterling left to determine your silver yield. 2: get some stannous testing solution and check your acid for precious metal content. Based off the color, you have either iron, palladium, or platinum in solution. The ideal way to have separated those would have been to add either HCL, or salt water to precipitate the silver out as a chloride instead of cementing all metals including silver onto the copper. Convert the chloride with some lye, stir until no color change (it’ll turn black) and slowly add sugar, mix and rinse very well, then melt. Last option if you cement the silver instead of precipitation is to boil it in HCL to rid of palladium as best as possible before melting. Add zing powder or aluminum, copper etc to the remaining solution to cement out the remaining pms and save for a rainy day. I love your video, and could only wish I could be there to watch, learn, and maybe even help with your final refining 😊
I was going to mention Sreetips. But I believe this is your best video yet Sir. How much did it cost you to refine it to this state? And congrats man. Great job.
Hi Jason, Absolutely incredible! Job well done! The purity of the buttons is wonderful. Chemistry takes a lot of practice. Sreetips is an excellent teacher! Time to go mining again! Stay safe!! Jim
Great to see the shout-out to sreetips. Would be awesome with an outright collaboration series where you cupel and sreetips gives it some acid refining and check for other orecious metals.
Smh. . . Respect is earned and Jason I can't pay you enough respect for what you do. Each one of your videos are LOADED with excellent information, critical knowledge, experimentation.. And I can't tell you how valuable including your screw ups in the finished cut are. I can learn tons more by watching what didn't go right than I ever will by watching the times when everything went well. My hats off to you brother. You rock
That was a great video Jason. From mining the ore, concentrating the ore and then pulling out the chemistry set to produce high purity gold and silver. I think it would be awesome to see you and Sreetips do a collaboration. I’d love to see what he could do with your shaker table concentrates
I've been learning a lot from several utoobers Sreetips mbmm NerdRage HardRockU OwlTec just to name a few it's never as simple as it seems I am always learning more and I appreciate all their efforts. I've done more than some thought possible thank you all never give up Nile red and other's
Thanks for making all these how to vids! Love em. Can't wait to see more ming videos! I love the uploads that show you getting the material and processing it and then purifying it! They're my fav. You're amazing Jason!
@@mbmmllc100%! I do some placer mining. Just my little 3 foot sluice. Can't run anything motorized in my area. The place I go has been shut down from wildfires and bears for like 3 years 😔
Jason, Thanks for your honesty in this video. I imagine like myself, a bunch of us have been down this road and made these same mistakes out of impatience. But you're truly gapping the diy hard rock mining RUclips instructional videos department. I really appreciate you.
This was so awesome to see love all the education and the fact that mistakes aren’t hidden so we can all learn from a situation that might occur during the process! Seriously the best way to prevent someone else from getting hurt thanks again!
Thanks! Awesome video of the mine ore structure, beautiful mineral display of colors. Sreetips is one of my favs. I've been a fan of MBMM for years and have been on a parallel path of interest and I am a follower of many of the collaborators in your videos. Best Wishes
I love how you say you have to learn from your mistakes when you flip the cone over too early, but you keep doing it over and over again! You gotta start not only learning but practicing what you learn! Just giving you a hard time, much respect Jason!
Díky! Thanks for making interesting videos and teaching me a lot... Last week I cleaned some gold and silver by cupelation with bismuth, result is above expectation... Greetings from the Heart of Europe
Thank you! I am glad you are learning from the videos and finding some useful info. It's awesome that you are using these techniques yourself. Thanks again
I was hoping to eventually see a sreetips collab video going from raw ore to purified metal with the two of you but this will have to do for now. Thanks so much for showing the learning on camera. Really appreciate that about your videos.
YES!!!!! I have watched both yours and Sreetip’s channels for a while and always wanted to see you refine your precious metals like Sreetips!! GREAT VIDEO!!!!! Keep em coming!!!!
1:11:43 Question: When you have your silver nitrate solution, right after you finish pulling the gold out, would it be better to put in a small amount of copper, far less than what you'd need to fully pull the silver out of the solution, let it dissolve completely, then drain the silver nitrate/copper nitrate into another beaker and get your solidified silver out, then repeat the process again with a little more copper, drain it, get your silver out, and keep repeating this process until there's no more silver to come out? It'd take a bit more time, but I think you'd be more successful pulling your silver out of the solution...
Very cool video. :) I believe Sreetips has some videos where he takes pretty decent purity gold and makes it 99.999% pure... if I'm remembering correctly...
Excellent videos Jason ;) Happy to see you having gold and silver in hand. Silver needs a lot of water volume to put it into solution, the more the better. I hope you used distilled water vs tap water or well water for silver- even the slightest amount of chlorine or hypochlorite will throw your reactions way off.
Yea he was making a touch of aqua regia I suspect because of that orange color so he was pulling gold and silver out cause of the chlorine in tap I would bet but still awesome to see him add these steps to the tool bag! Way to go Jason
4:28 the blue is copper already familiar with that but what is the pink that I see quite a bit of alongside the blue in the heavily colored areas and what else can we discern from visual inspection in the way of color or Texture or co-occurring minerals (and how to specifically identify them visually) that are often found alongside gold?
Great video. Did you use tap water? The colour of the solution when dissolving the in quarter gold looks like you made aqua Regina and maybe dissolved some of the gold? What a great video though mining to refining.
Good work Jason, Solution goes blue from copper going into solution and silver coming out of solution. If it’s green like you have that means there’s palladium in it. Yellow in nitric could be iron contamination but also could be some gold that went into solution. Save that nitric solution just in case. Streetips is awesome. Learned most of my smelting chemistry from him.
Jason I'm a longtime subscriber but I've never left a message until today I want to say thank you for all the knowledge you've given me I'm not only what to do in the refining but how to find golden what to look for I love everything you do and I am looking forward to buying some of the items from you in the future, I have been doing Gold hunting a refining for long but I'm getting very deep into it thank you for all the knowledge you've given me it's priceless God bless you
Absolutely informative and entertaining! There are many things that we all would like to learn how to do but either time or opportunity never had the timing coming together! Very interesting and quite amazing to watch!
Us small-scale smelters and refiners benefit greatly from your series. The mine tours are educational too, that one guided tour was one of the best videos about mining there is!
This was the best definition you've ever given for your shaker table! 😊 This was amazing! A complete start to finish of the mining process! Streetips is the man btw! Soo cool your into his skills too!! 😉 lol, another edit: now we all can see why Sreetips is so painfully slow in his addition of nitric. Lol! 😅
Thanks loads for making this video Jason, Ya did a really wonderful job. I watch all your work, and also SREETIPS. I first thought of cleaning up copper watching you electro win copper from silver. Then watching SREETIPS building and running his silver cells, I decided to build electro winning cells for cleaning up copper to get lead, tin, zinc, iron and other impurities from scrap copper I convert into pure material I hammer into bowls spoons plates n such. It was you that first inspired me to mess with this, and I am very thankful to you for your great adventurousness and willingness to put what ever you discover out there for us all to see and learn from. I saw other comments, and agree, how cool would it be to send some #1 con's to allow SREETIPS to experiment and work his magic on!
One of your best videos Jason, really cool that you mentioned @sreetips I find his process spellbinding and try to visualise these chemical processes depositing the gold and silver in the hydrothermal systems. So the next Collab should be you dragging @sreetips down to the 700 level of Cerro Gordo and grab some Galena?
Thanks for showing us your methods of refining gold and silver. I really enjoyed watching. Sreetips makes it look so easy. You show that it is not as simple. I appreciate the mistakes because it is a learning endeavor. Thanks again for the video. I look forward to watching the process from mine to refinement. Good luck my friend.
You asked why the color of solution was tinged slightly yellow after your 3rd boil....it may be you had a small amount of gold go into solution.... sometimes if the heat is sustained at high temp or concentration of nitric is high gold can start to go into solution.....i don't think it was much but stanous chloride test your solutions... color indicates metal makeup
Great video bro, thank you for the whole process love the fact you show us what not to do thru your trials and tribulations 💪💪 we all learning together
I think you put a little gold into solution on the last nitric boil. It's possible. Silver preferentially goes into solution when it's with gold but when you remove the silver and base metals and boil the pure gold sponge in nitric for too long small amounts of AU will go into solution.
Fantastic video! Awesome that you started with chipping ore right out of the mine and then did a bit of refining to get those nice shiny bars/buttons. I really enjoy watching sreetips videos and it was great to see you following some of his processes and giving him a nice shoutout. Great video!
Jason, you've forgotten to consider that there might be other Platinum group metals in your solution, Palladium, iridium, Rhodium, Platinum, etc. Your assay or XRF should show the trace elements which is the staining in your solution. By the looks of it your "stock pot" might have a little bit of it by the red colouration of your first pours.
None of these dissolve in nitric acid except for palladium and at a very slow rate. The intensity of the orange red color suggests there would be a high concentration of palladium dissolved in solution, which is highly unlikely. The orange red color comes from the reaction of silver dissolving in nitric acid. It would have eventually became colorless if he would have allowed the reaction to continue. Don't believe me? Nile Red has a great example of what happens when silver dissolves in nitric acid.
@ThrowingItAway Yes, like I said, very little palladium. The orange red color is a result of the reaction of silver dissolving in nitric acid, which eventually becomes colorless. His reaction was nowhere near complete. I should mention that I'm a gold refiner.
@@copperinquarter I disagree, having seen many of these reactions the colour looked to be from the Pd. Can you tell me what silver ion or compound is producing the red colour? Silver Nitrogen compounds range from white to black but none are red to my knowledge. However, Palladium Nitrate is a nice deep red colour in solution. =]
1. There is no reason to use precious copper to precipitate silver. This solution contains silver nitrate. When chlorine ion is added to a solution of silver nitrate, it replaces the nitrate with chlorine, forming insoluble silver chloride (a white precipitate). All you have to do is pour a solution with dissolved table salt into the silver nitrate solution and you will immediately see white insoluble silver chloride. When silver chloride is heated (or exposed to sunlight) the chlorine is driven off and it becomes elemental (metallic) silver. 2. It almost looks like your nitric acid solution contained chloride. This has led to the fact that gold has also gone into solution. Chloroauric acid has formed. Chloroauric acid is yellow in color. As a chemist I can only recommend the book "Refining Precious Metal Wastes - Gold, Silver, Platinum Metals - A Handbook for the Jeweler, Dentist and Small Refiner (CM Hoke)". 3. Just a little hint! The filter crucible you used is called the Büchner funnel. It is actually intended to filter solids with the help of a vacuum. For this you need a vacuum pump, a suction bottle, a rubber funnel holder and the round sheet of filter paper in the funnel.
To properly refine your silver, you need to finish the process by making yourself a silver cell and grow silver crystals in a solution of silver nitrate on a cathode using a DC power supply. The material you have so far is still including some copper and possibly some platinum group metals. I know, more sreetips videos to go through and a rig to build; but it appears he’s able to really mow through the silver shot to produce amazingly beautiful (and pure) silver crystals that can be melted down for 3 9’s fine silver.
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Just a thought, but maybe you should either do episode numbers, or episode names, or something descriptive about what new technique you're testing? I lose track of which refining videos are ones I've already watched, and which are new, since you have like 100 refining and mining videos at this point. I think this leads to me skipping videos because I assume I've seen it, and/or assume it's exactly the same as a previous video (even though I know that's probably not true). I don't usually have time to watch the video and see if it's something you've already done, so will only watch if I am confident it's something I haven't seen.
Hey Jason, It's HowRad here. I'm in lake Havasu City, Arizona. When you going to come see me and take this load of rocks that I've been hauling around homeless. It crushed him up and get the goodies out for me? You're pretty good at smelting. These rocks are disappearing into the ground that's how saturated they are!!! Please help the homeless!!! No matter what you get out of I'll donate half of it to the children's society!
I can hardly wait for your next video. This one was especially good. I love watching all of the processes you take us through. From inside the holes chipping out samples to the final test results. Thanks Jason. Waiting to see if you get into the gold rich mine you took us to.
This has been my favourite video of yours so far Jase. Loved every second of it! Refining is fantastic fun but certainly takes a lot of patients and practice. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
your "mistakes" make others successes seem positively boring (well maybe not boring, but your mistakes are amazingly interesting).......also that slag was really pretty and the black slag you get is often very pretty as well.....is there any value to the slag or use for art or something else
What an educative video; even though chemistry was never my favourited subject, but this is fascinating and shows how smart our forefathers were ! Nice to see these talents being revived by hobbyists and small scale prospectors. Thanks!
Sreetips is the best at refining, but even he occasionally makes mistakes. He shows his mistakes and we all learn from them. He is super methodical and safety conscious. You did a great job taking it from rocks to precious bullion.
My two favorite refiners here street tips for his preciseness and you Jason for your willingness to experiment and I don’t just get the order but experiment with trying to refine it. I think you’re on the right step here. Good job.
Hi i Haven Been a FAN Of Sreet tips for a long time and for sure he is your go to guy re refining metals the hard way and the easy way as he has done It a lot and changes stuff but for sure he refines Silver Really Well worth spending some more time to watch him Wont be a Waste of your Time it was Great to see the whole Proses from you that's a First so Thank You Great Vlog
Ive been wanting this channel for a while and i enjoyed this one alt. That silver gold mix is absolutely beautiful. I love the lighter color of it better than pure gold
The fact that you show this process from the mountain to the very end of getting the actual gold out is amazing. Thanks for all the great videos. I learn something from every one of them! 👏👏👏👏
Great content Jason. I enjoy all that you share! Especially the problems as you are learning the new process/es. Keep the smelting and chemistry videos coming.
Nice to see another sreetips sub! That's why sreetips does his home-made electrolysis process to get pure silver after displacing with copper tubes. Another nice thing is that from the crusher to the shaker table you got basically a free Inquartation gold piece. You're just missing the steps of taking the base metals and the lead. I'm sure you will improve your chemical skills to turn ore into gold and silver.
That was a well done start to finish video. I appreciate all the starts and stops, different days that you put into this. Thats a lotta math and chemistry stuffed into a rock video!
...it was fascinating to watch sreetips a few times, as it has been to follow you through your quest to purify your pm piles, as it is to watch the adventures and antics through which you and our Dan Hurd bash yourselves...pure golden entertainment...pure platinum fun!...
All right Jason, thanks again for the great video! Can't wait till you're out on another adventure with someone like Brent, Jeff, Dan! The educational videos are a must, however all those great characters are always hard to beat unless it's a AU crystal or a wire specimen lol! Love it all! Just never personally cared for the classroom, compared to an outdoor excursion!😅
Brilliant video! Keep these coming. And I love the fact that you credit Sreetips. I love his stuff as well And I totally agree with @John Sanford about all you awsome guys finding eachother :-) According to Sreetips, the Nitric WILL slightly dissolve gold as well, so the yellow tint in that 3rd boil is probably a tiny amount of gold in solution.
A great video ! @1:11:20 I probably would have chosen sulfuric acid (H2SO4) to dissolve the copper and silver aggregate, as Ag2SO4 has a very low solubility in water (0.83 g/l at 25C) and will precipitate out, while copper sulfate pentahydrate (CuSO4*5H2O) has a solubility of 317 g/l at 20C and at 25C even higher. As a next step probably I would boil the Ag2SO4 with aqueous NaOH to form AgOH and Na2SO4 and from there either again HNO3 or other steps.
I was hoping the suggestion would help out. Glad you checked it out. Loved this video Jason thanks! You killed it on the gold recovery. Chemistry takes time but, lot's of fun.
I can't always comment Jason because I watch all your videos on my smart TV...but I got on my phone for this video! I think its one of your best yet...but I live them all!! Tjanks for sharing your experiences with us!! We love it...and if you ever want to enjoy a vacation get away to SC look me me up! We don't have any gold mines here...so you'll be able to relax some!! Bring your family too!! Love ya Man....
I loved that! (38:10) It's all about the learning process. I've learned so much from your videos and really enjoy them! Going from mine to button is just a blast to watch. Your really intelligent and your machines are awesome. I could watch you do this all day. So much fun and really informative. Thank you!
The copper wire is copper1 and the pipe is copper2, I wonder how much of a difference that makes? I've been wanting to see you refine things using acids, I'm confident you'll get it down with experience. The slag being blue may mean there's a little silver in it, reminds me of the blue mud at the Comstock Lode. Keep the videos coming!
absolutely amazing, good show. I would have never guessed gold was disolved into a complete liquid form to be purified, after watching Sreetips I wish I had learned chemistry.
Keep watching sreetips and you'll know the needed chemistry! He uses pretty easily available chemicals, and is vigilant about describing his processes.
There may be PGMs and copper in your silver. This is why sreetips uses an electrolytic system for growing pure silver crystal. The residue from the process can contain gold and PGMs.
That gold looks outstanding for your first try, well done!
You have my respect showing your methods to another seemingly without hesitation. I've always enjoyed your videos and I'm glad to see you spread the knowledge. 👏👏👏
@@copperinquarter I don't think he claimed to be. He does make interesting videos and explain well to the lame like me
@@copperinquarter wow I sure don't think there's anyone else other than him on RUclips who shows the processes that he shows I wouldn't know if he's wasteful or not but what other channel would you recommend that would show how wasteful stretips is ?
Thanks Sreetips! I really enjoyed this process and I think it will become very useful for me in the future. Thanks again for all your info and knowledge, it has been invaluable for learning the wet chemistry of precious metals!
Hello Sir, All the good golden people meet each other...
The fact that you shared your mistakes with us is honestly worth a lot more than your successes. Significantly more educational than a heavily edited "perfect" process. Thanks for sharing!
Exactly. Cheers brother
YES ! Absolutely !!!! from Germany 👍
I agree.
Time to start a silver cell Jason
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@@reevesheather7331 You are right!!. Considering the continuous devaluation of the usd.. buying and storing gold is the only way out of this tragedy
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@@nicholausstreich5551 Purchasing gold and precious metals isn't as difficult as most people make it seem.
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Finally you talk about Sreetips. Been watching him for years!!!
I'm at the 50 minute mark and and I was just thinking that I'd love to watch Sreetips have a go at his sample when I scrolled down and read your comment. I'm suddenly a lot more interested in what's happening.
Jason, when you showed that beggining shot of the sky... aka... daylight!
It dern near skeer the daylights out of me... durn! Dat a long dong, way up!
Whooo~wee baybe!
Got any yeller in that shaft feller??? I'm talkin bout colors! You kno the kind... black, & gleaming gold color feller!
I think it's incredible I've watched you, Dan, Pauly, Chris and Sreetips (and others) separately only to see you've all found each other producing quality videos. I would love to see all of you incorporate and produce some joint venture some time with all the others!
agree wholeheartedly.
it's a shame Sreetips does his refining more as a hobby.
i'd like to see the full process from the mining/prospecting guys to Sreetips' chemically refined "three nines" fine metals.
and i bet the silver crystals would be glorious.
Paulie is trash.
Watch Tassie boys for the best sniping work and videos.
That would be awesome. Was definitely thinking of Sreetips on this one.
@@derekjinks5640 When hobbyist has a bucket full of silver, that is not a hobby anymore. That is a small one man company.
Each to their own but I find Chris and Pauly to be annoying and childish but it's only my opinion ❤❤😂
Boiling nitric will dissolve traces of gold and turn it yellow. Also could be some PGMs.
i think his xrf showed .125% Pt at the end for sure PGM
The orange red in solution was the reaction of silver dissolving in nitric acid. If he had allowed the reaction to continue, the solution would have eventually became colorless. That reaction was nowhere near complete. That small amount of palladium in solution or traces of gold dissolved by nitric acid can not account for that deep of an orange red color.
I was thrilled to hear you mention Sreetips I watch him all the time, as I do you. thx for the great content
Woo hoo!!
Another epic long show with mining, milling and refining!!!
It’s a golden kind of day! 🌟
Thank you for making this. I like he unedited video. Everybody learns DON'T RUSH. This video shows what happens when you do! Well done thank you!!!
I would recommend 2 things Jason:
1: you want to heat and then slowly boil your nitric acid with the alloy until there are absolutely zero fumes. This indicates there is little to no excess nitric acid. Another way would be to pour the hot nitric into a beaker with some sterling at a known weight in it. When you go to cement the silver, you can also weigh the sterling left to determine your silver yield.
2: get some stannous testing solution and check your acid for precious metal content. Based off the color, you have either iron, palladium, or platinum in solution. The ideal way to have separated those would have been to add either HCL, or salt water to precipitate the silver out as a chloride instead of cementing all metals including silver onto the copper. Convert the chloride with some lye, stir until no color change (it’ll turn black) and slowly add sugar, mix and rinse very well, then melt.
Last option if you cement the silver instead of precipitation is to boil it in HCL to rid of palladium as best as possible before melting. Add zing powder or aluminum, copper etc to the remaining solution to cement out the remaining pms and save for a rainy day.
I love your video, and could only wish I could be there to watch, learn, and maybe even help with your final refining 😊
Thanks Jason!
I was going to mention Sreetips. But I believe this is your best video yet Sir. How much did it cost you to refine it to this state? And congrats man. Great job.
Hi Jason, Absolutely incredible! Job well done! The purity of the buttons is wonderful. Chemistry takes a lot of practice. Sreetips is an excellent teacher! Time to go mining again! Stay safe!! Jim
Great to see the shout-out to sreetips. Would be awesome with an outright collaboration series where you cupel and sreetips gives it some acid refining and check for other orecious metals.
Smh. . .
Respect is earned and Jason I can't pay you enough respect for what you do.
Each one of your videos are LOADED with excellent information, critical knowledge, experimentation..
And I can't tell you how valuable including your screw ups in the finished cut are. I can learn tons more by watching what didn't go right than I ever will by watching the times when everything went well.
My hats off to you brother.
You rock
That was a great video Jason. From mining the ore, concentrating the ore and then pulling out the chemistry set to produce high purity gold and silver. I think it would be awesome to see you and Sreetips do a collaboration. I’d love to see what he could do with your shaker table concentrates
I've been learning a lot from several utoobers Sreetips mbmm NerdRage HardRockU OwlTec just to name a few it's never as simple as it seems I am always learning more and I appreciate all their efforts. I've done more than some thought possible thank you all never give up Nile red and other's
Thanks for making all these how to vids! Love em. Can't wait to see more ming videos! I love the uploads that show you getting the material and processing it and then purifying it! They're my fav. You're amazing Jason!
Thanks MadMan! I'm glad you find them useful. Hopefully you have some gold and silver to practice these techniques on :)
@@mbmmllc100%! I do some placer mining. Just my little 3 foot sluice. Can't run anything motorized in my area. The place I go has been shut down from wildfires and bears for like 3 years 😔
Jason,
Thanks for your honesty in this video.
I imagine like myself, a bunch of us have been down this road and made these same mistakes out of impatience.
But you're truly gapping the diy hard rock mining RUclips instructional videos department.
I really appreciate you.
I'm so glad you started experimenting with refining with reaction.
It really gets it down to pure metals
I've watched sreetips before
This was so awesome to see love all the education and the fact that mistakes aren’t hidden so we can all learn from a situation that might occur during the process! Seriously the best way to prevent someone else from getting hurt thanks again!
Thanks! Awesome video of the mine ore structure, beautiful mineral display of colors. Sreetips is one of my favs. I've been a fan of MBMM for years and have been on a parallel path of interest and I am a follower of many of the collaborators in your videos.
Best Wishes
Awesome, thank you!
I love how you say you have to learn from your mistakes when you flip the cone over too early, but you keep doing it over and over again! You gotta start not only learning but practicing what you learn!
Just giving you a hard time, much respect Jason!
Díky! Thanks for making interesting videos and teaching me a lot... Last week I cleaned some gold and silver by cupelation with bismuth, result is above expectation... Greetings from the Heart of Europe
Thank you! I am glad you are learning from the videos and finding some useful info. It's awesome that you are using these techniques yourself. Thanks again
I was hoping to eventually see a sreetips collab video going from raw ore to purified metal with the two of you but this will have to do for now.
Thanks so much for showing the learning on camera. Really appreciate that about your videos.
He won't do that cause he finding 24k gold already while sreetips is only refining..
And invite BigStackD Casting to do the molten metal pours
YES!!!!! I have watched both yours and Sreetip’s channels for a while and always wanted to see you refine your precious metals like Sreetips!! GREAT VIDEO!!!!! Keep em coming!!!!
Congratulations!
A new era in MBMM!
Exciting!
Jason, Dan, Mr. Sreetips... all the good guys connected with gold...
Great video! Yeah, Sreetips videos are always interesting!
1:11:43 Question: When you have your silver nitrate solution, right after you finish pulling the gold out, would it be better to put in a small amount of copper, far less than what you'd need to fully pull the silver out of the solution, let it dissolve completely, then drain the silver nitrate/copper nitrate into another beaker and get your solidified silver out, then repeat the process again with a little more copper, drain it, get your silver out, and keep repeating this process until there's no more silver to come out? It'd take a bit more time, but I think you'd be more successful pulling your silver out of the solution...
Very cool video. :) I believe Sreetips has some videos where he takes pretty decent purity gold and makes it 99.999% pure... if I'm remembering correctly...
Excellent videos Jason ;) Happy to see you having gold and silver in hand. Silver needs a lot of water volume to put it into solution, the more the better. I hope you used distilled water vs tap water or well water for silver- even the slightest amount of chlorine or hypochlorite will throw your reactions way off.
Yea he was making a touch of aqua regia I suspect because of that orange color so he was pulling gold and silver out cause of the chlorine in tap I would bet but still awesome to see him add these steps to the tool bag! Way to go Jason
yeah that was my guess as to why the orange color
4:28 the blue is copper already familiar with that but what is the pink that I see quite a bit of alongside the blue in the heavily colored areas and what else can we discern from visual inspection in the way of color or Texture or co-occurring minerals (and how to specifically identify them visually) that are often found alongside gold?
This is probably one of the coolest videos I've seen in a long time good work Jason I do not have words to explain how jealous I am
Great video. Did you use tap water? The colour of the solution when dissolving the in quarter gold looks like you made aqua Regina and maybe dissolved some of the gold? What a great video though mining to refining.
Good work Jason,
Solution goes blue from copper going into solution and silver coming out of solution.
If it’s green like you have that means there’s palladium in it.
Yellow in nitric could be iron contamination but also could be some gold that went into solution. Save that nitric solution just in case.
Streetips is awesome. Learned most of my smelting chemistry from him.
Jason I'm a longtime subscriber but I've never left a message until today I want to say thank you for all the knowledge you've given me I'm not only what to do in the refining but how to find golden what to look for I love everything you do and I am looking forward to buying some of the items from you in the future, I have been doing Gold hunting a refining for long but I'm getting very deep into it thank you for all the knowledge you've given me it's priceless God bless you
Absolutely informative and entertaining! There are many things that we all would like to learn how to do but either time or opportunity never had the timing coming together! Very interesting and quite amazing to watch!
Us small-scale smelters and refiners benefit greatly from your series. The mine tours are educational too, that one guided tour was one of the best videos about mining there is!
This was the best definition you've ever given for your shaker table! 😊 This was amazing! A complete start to finish of the mining process! Streetips is the man btw! Soo cool your into his skills too!! 😉 lol, another edit: now we all can see why Sreetips is so painfully slow in his addition of nitric. Lol! 😅
Thanks loads for making this video Jason, Ya did a really wonderful job. I watch all your work, and also SREETIPS. I first thought of cleaning up copper watching you electro win copper from silver. Then watching SREETIPS building and running his silver cells, I decided to build electro winning cells for cleaning up copper to get lead, tin, zinc, iron and other impurities from scrap copper I convert into pure material I hammer into bowls spoons plates n such. It was you that first inspired me to mess with this, and I am very thankful to you for your great adventurousness and willingness to put what ever you discover out there for us all to see and learn from. I saw other comments, and agree, how cool would it be to send some #1 con's to allow SREETIPS to experiment and work his magic on!
One of your best videos Jason, really cool that you mentioned @sreetips I find his process spellbinding and try to visualise these chemical processes depositing the gold and silver in the hydrothermal systems. So the next Collab should be you dragging @sreetips down to the 700 level of Cerro Gordo and grab some Galena?
Love it, excellent work Jason! Great educational content, very informative and entertaining, thank you.
Thanks for showing us your methods of refining gold and silver. I really enjoyed watching. Sreetips makes it look so easy. You show that it is not as simple. I appreciate the mistakes because it is a learning endeavor. Thanks again for the video. I look forward to watching the process from mine to refinement. Good luck my friend.
You asked why the color of solution was tinged slightly yellow after your 3rd boil....it may be you had a small amount of gold go into solution.... sometimes if the heat is sustained at high temp or concentration of nitric is high gold can start to go into solution.....i don't think it was much but stanous chloride test your solutions... color indicates metal makeup
This is one of my favorite videos! On mining, refining ore, smelting, pouring, and chemistry. You make amazing content.
Great video bro, thank you for the whole process love the fact you show us what not to do thru your trials and tribulations 💪💪 we all learning together
Excellent! Watched the whole vid, when i didn't have time too.
Thanks Jason.
I think you put a little gold into solution on the last nitric boil. It's possible. Silver preferentially goes into solution when it's with gold but when you remove the silver and base metals and boil the pure gold sponge in nitric for too long small amounts of AU will go into solution.
Fantastic video! Awesome that you started with chipping ore right out of the mine and then did a bit of refining to get those nice shiny bars/buttons. I really enjoy watching sreetips videos and it was great to see you following some of his processes and giving him a nice shoutout. Great video!
Jason, you've forgotten to consider that there might be other Platinum group metals in your solution, Palladium, iridium, Rhodium, Platinum, etc. Your assay or XRF should show the trace elements which is the staining in your solution. By the looks of it your "stock pot" might have a little bit of it by the red colouration of your first pours.
None of these dissolve in nitric acid except for palladium and at a very slow rate. The intensity of the orange red color suggests there would be a high concentration of palladium dissolved in solution, which is highly unlikely. The orange red color comes from the reaction of silver dissolving in nitric acid. It would have eventually became colorless if he would have allowed the reaction to continue. Don't believe me? Nile Red has a great example of what happens when silver dissolves in nitric acid.
@@copperinquarter Look at his XRF result at the end with the silver. it shows the Palladium content that was in the solution.
@ThrowingItAway Yes, like I said, very little palladium. The orange red color is a result of the reaction of silver dissolving in nitric acid, which eventually becomes colorless. His reaction was nowhere near complete. I should mention that I'm a gold refiner.
@@copperinquarter I disagree, having seen many of these reactions the colour looked to be from the Pd. Can you tell me what silver ion or compound is producing the red colour? Silver Nitrogen compounds range from white to black but none are red to my knowledge.
However, Palladium Nitrate is a nice deep red colour in solution. =]
@ThrowingItAway Nile Red has a nice silver dissolving in nitric acid video you can look at. I'm also a gold refiner, but don't take my word for it.
1:22:28 - you can see the silver bead roll out when you pour the molten material that made the awesome blue slag. Keep up all the great explorations!
1. There is no reason to use precious copper to precipitate silver. This solution contains silver nitrate. When chlorine ion is added to a solution of silver nitrate, it replaces the nitrate with chlorine, forming insoluble silver chloride (a white precipitate). All you have to do is pour a solution with dissolved table salt into the silver nitrate solution and you will immediately see white insoluble silver chloride. When silver chloride is heated (or exposed to sunlight) the chlorine is driven off and it becomes elemental (metallic) silver.
2. It almost looks like your nitric acid solution contained chloride. This has led to the fact that gold has also gone into solution. Chloroauric acid has formed. Chloroauric acid is yellow in color. As a chemist I can only recommend the book "Refining Precious Metal Wastes - Gold, Silver, Platinum Metals - A Handbook for the Jeweler, Dentist and Small Refiner (CM Hoke)".
3. Just a little hint! The filter crucible you used is called the Büchner funnel. It is actually intended to filter solids with the help of a vacuum. For this you need a vacuum pump, a suction bottle, a rubber funnel holder and the round sheet of filter paper in the funnel.
To properly refine your silver, you need to finish the process by making yourself a silver cell and grow silver crystals in a solution of silver nitrate on a cathode using a DC power supply. The material you have so far is still including some copper and possibly some platinum group metals. I know, more sreetips videos to go through and a rig to build; but it appears he’s able to really mow through the silver shot to produce amazingly beautiful (and pure) silver crystals that can be melted down for 3 9’s fine silver.
Yeah I agree he made cement silver but then deviated from sreetips but what the hey like he said this is the first time.
@@dantadysak5485 yeah, I forgot to include something about him being more comfortable with smelting.
Thank you so much! I learned so much and love it. Smelted my first gold as a young sidekick 49 years ago. Great work. Your style is world-class.
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That's so true. but if i may ask, do you trade all by yourself?
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Well done Jason, lots of lessons learned but the results were spot on. Amazing to see the process from mining right through to refining
Just a thought, but maybe you should either do episode numbers, or episode names, or something descriptive about what new technique you're testing? I lose track of which refining videos are ones I've already watched, and which are new, since you have like 100 refining and mining videos at this point. I think this leads to me skipping videos because I assume I've seen it, and/or assume it's exactly the same as a previous video (even though I know that's probably not true). I don't usually have time to watch the video and see if it's something you've already done, so will only watch if I am confident it's something I haven't seen.
Dan hurd thank you
RUclips puts a red line at the bottom of the thumbnail if you have seen it.
@@FollowMe2aMillion true, but he reposts some stuff, as well as splits adventures into two videos some times.
man i never get tired of watching gold refining, it's so cool!
Hey Jason,
It's HowRad here. I'm in lake Havasu City, Arizona. When you going to come see me and take this load of rocks that I've been hauling around homeless. It crushed him up and get the goodies out for me? You're pretty good at smelting. These rocks are disappearing into the ground that's how saturated they are!!! Please help the homeless!!! No matter what you get out of I'll donate half of it to the children's society!
I can hardly wait for your next video. This one was especially good. I love watching all of the processes you take us through. From inside the holes chipping out samples to the final test results. Thanks Jason. Waiting to see if you get into the gold rich mine you took us to.
Sreetips makes it look so easy!
that is because he does simple things
This has been my favourite video of yours so far Jase. Loved every second of it! Refining is fantastic fun but certainly takes a lot of patients and practice. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
your "mistakes" make others successes seem positively boring (well maybe not boring, but your mistakes are amazingly interesting).......also that slag was really pretty and the black slag you get is often very pretty as well.....is there any value to the slag or use for art or something else
Absolutely loved every second of this one. As always learned lots! Thank you for such awesome teaching!
Jason this the best video you ever made. I watch all your videos. Thanks for all the work you did to complete this movie.
thank you Dan Hurd, also at 51:20 you killed a bug with th blow torch.
Thanks!
Thank you for all your support! It means a lot!
Love it! Love watching sreetips. Great first attempt on the refining process.
What an educative video; even though chemistry was never my favourited subject, but this is fascinating and shows how smart our forefathers were ! Nice to see these talents being revived by hobbyists and small scale prospectors. Thanks!
Sreetips is the best at refining, but even he occasionally makes mistakes. He shows his mistakes and we all learn from them. He is super methodical and safety conscious. You did a great job taking it from rocks to precious bullion.
My two favorite refiners here street tips for his preciseness and you Jason for your willingness to experiment and I don’t just get the order but experiment with trying to refine it. I think you’re on the right step here. Good job.
Hi i Haven Been a FAN Of Sreet tips for a long time and for sure he is your go to guy re refining metals the hard way and the easy way as he has done It a lot and changes stuff but for sure he refines Silver Really Well worth spending some more time to watch him Wont be a Waste of your Time it was Great to see the whole Proses from you that's a First so Thank You Great Vlog
Ive been wanting this channel for a while and i enjoyed this one alt. That silver gold mix is absolutely beautiful. I love the lighter color of it better than pure gold
The fact that you show this process from the mountain to the very end of getting the actual gold out is amazing. Thanks for all the great videos. I learn something from every one of them! 👏👏👏👏
Awesome hustle to get to the perfect ending. Great job
That was absolutely spellbinding! One of the best videos I've watched on RUclips!
Thank you so much!
Great content Jason. I enjoy all that you share! Especially the problems as you are learning the new process/es. Keep the smelting and chemistry videos coming.
Great work Jason. Always a joy watching you. Thanks. 😎👍
Nice to see another sreetips sub! That's why sreetips does his home-made electrolysis process to get pure silver after displacing with copper tubes.
Another nice thing is that from the crusher to the shaker table you got basically a free Inquartation gold piece. You're just missing the steps of taking the base metals and the lead.
I'm sure you will improve your chemical skills to turn ore into gold and silver.
That was a well done start to finish video. I appreciate all the starts and stops, different days that you put into this. Thats a lotta math and chemistry stuffed into a rock video!
...it was fascinating to watch sreetips a few times, as it has been to follow you through your quest to purify your pm piles, as it is to watch the adventures and antics through which you and our Dan Hurd bash yourselves...pure golden entertainment...pure platinum fun!...
found you through dan and yeah its incredible. i watched this beginning to end and showed some friends as well. i learned a lot!
Sreetips vids are great, cool you watch too. Different oxidation state for blue/green copper solutions.
All right Jason, thanks again for the great video! Can't wait till you're out on another adventure with someone like Brent, Jeff, Dan! The educational videos are a must, however all those great characters are always hard to beat unless it's a AU crystal or a wire specimen lol! Love it all!
Just never personally cared for the classroom, compared to an outdoor excursion!😅
Brilliant video! Keep these coming.
And I love the fact that you credit Sreetips. I love his stuff as well
And I totally agree with @John Sanford about all you awsome guys finding eachother :-)
According to Sreetips, the Nitric WILL slightly dissolve gold as well, so the yellow tint in that 3rd boil is probably a tiny amount of gold in solution.
A great video ! @1:11:20 I probably would have chosen sulfuric acid (H2SO4) to dissolve the copper and silver aggregate, as Ag2SO4 has a very low solubility in water (0.83 g/l at 25C) and will precipitate out, while copper sulfate pentahydrate (CuSO4*5H2O) has a solubility of 317 g/l at 20C and at 25C even higher. As a next step probably I would boil the Ag2SO4 with aqueous NaOH to form AgOH and Na2SO4 and from there either again HNO3 or other steps.
I am glad to hear you guys are so busy Jason. I wish you the best on your well deserved success.
I was hoping the suggestion would help out. Glad you checked it out. Loved this video Jason thanks! You killed it on the gold recovery. Chemistry takes time but, lot's of fun.
Need Sreetips to come over and mention what's up with the color of the acid!
I loved seeing the whole process from start to finish in one video great work dude
Great video Jason! Well done on that gold bar on your first try. Looking forward to more of these!! :D
I can't always comment Jason because I watch all your videos on my smart TV...but I got on my phone for this video! I think its one of your best yet...but I live them all!! Tjanks for sharing your experiences with us!! We love it...and if you ever want to enjoy a vacation get away to SC look me me up! We don't have any gold mines here...so you'll be able to relax some!! Bring your family too!! Love ya Man....
I loved that! (38:10) It's all about the learning process. I've learned so much from your videos and really enjoy them! Going from mine to button is just a blast to watch. Your really intelligent and your machines are awesome. I could watch you do this all day. So much fun and really informative. Thank you!
Great video Jason, and the results are spectacular. I had no idea of the complexity involved in the refining process.
The copper wire is copper1 and the pipe is copper2, I wonder how much of a difference that makes? I've been wanting to see you refine things using acids, I'm confident you'll get it down with experience. The slag being blue may mean there's a little silver in it, reminds me of the blue mud at the Comstock Lode. Keep the videos coming!
Depends who your buyer is, here in Ohio the pipe is considered 1 and stranded wire is 2. Our number 1 has to be at least 14 gauge.
Congratulations Christine. We love you guys . you guys it's our mini date . ❤
Jason you are a great man and we appreciate all you do to show us through this process thanks for your time
This is very educational video.
Thank you for showing how to purify gold, silver and bronze from rock materials.
absolutely amazing, good show. I would have never guessed gold was disolved into a complete liquid form to be purified, after watching Sreetips I wish I had learned chemistry.
Keep watching sreetips and you'll know the needed chemistry! He uses pretty easily available chemicals, and is vigilant about describing his processes.
Such an informative video thanks for taking the time to share and explain the process of refining the raw ore from start to finish.
There may be PGMs and copper in your silver. This is why sreetips uses an electrolytic system for growing pure silver crystal. The residue from the process can contain gold and PGMs.