Thanks for the ride along, my brother built one of these. His CFI took me up and have not been up since. I subscribed to some of you commentors just for fun.
Kudos for staying calm but with both of them concerned about the hiccup and the rising head temperature, it means something is wrong and the prudent thing to do is get heading for the nearest airstrip first and then do what they were doing, thinking through and analyzing the situation.
With fan belt broken surprised CHT only rose a little - if I have a problem I keep high until landing place is in gliding distance - but guys kept very calm - nice landing.!
That was a lot less dramatic than I would have expected. I'm rebuilding and modifying a Challenger 2 with a 503, and was wondering how drastic the over heating would be if the fan belt let go. It does heat up, but it doesn't seem to be catastrophic and is manageable. That sure is a relief. Cheers from Winnipeg.
The decision to return to the airport should have happened either as soon as the engine hiccuped or definitely when the cyl head temp started to rise... why did you wait?
Did the owner actually say 1100 degrees when asked what a normal cylinder head temperature was? Jesus Christ! When asked what it was the day before, he had no idea. They put those instruments in for a reason. Use them, and know where they belong. Not sure what engine you have in that thing, but I try to keep my cylinder head temps around 360 degrees and will never go above 400. Above that, the wear on the cylinders due to oil thinning goes way up. Continentals usually have a 460-degree red line, but that should be considered an emergency limit.
Yes, you’re absolutely correct. I didn’t have a pre-flight check list at the time and so it was missed. I have since put together a checklist and the belt is on the list.
Yes, I have replaced the belt a couple of times since then. There was corrosion on the pulley causing premature wear on the belt. The pulley has now been replaced and a new belt installed. The cost was minimal. There are RUclips videos showing the replacement and adjustment procedure for the 503 fan belt.
It failed. Pulled the exhaust manifold the following day to make sure the rings weren’t stuck. Replaced the belt and it’s been good ever since. Tension and visual check is definitely part of my pre-flight check now.
Soooo, let's recap shall we....these pretend pilots hear a strange and "concerning " noise coming from this flying coffin and instead of returning immediately to the field, they continue on? Outstanding safety plan. These guys are to pilots what Jeremy Dimwitte is to cops.
Landing on green in a sea of green.. I was clueless that this was going right until he touched down. Good work.. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the ride along, my brother built one of these. His CFI took me up and have not been up since. I subscribed to some of you commentors just for fun.
Kudos for staying calm but with both of them concerned about the hiccup and the rising head temperature, it means something is wrong and the prudent thing to do is get heading for the nearest airstrip first and then do what they were doing, thinking through and analyzing the situation.
With fan belt broken surprised CHT only rose a little - if I have a problem I keep high until landing place is in gliding distance - but guys kept very calm - nice landing.!
Wow, as an aspiring pilot, this makes me so jealous you have that plane! also, good recovery!
That was a lot less dramatic than I would have expected. I'm rebuilding and modifying a Challenger 2 with a 503, and was wondering how drastic the over heating would be if the fan belt let go. It does heat up, but it doesn't seem to be catastrophic and is manageable. That sure is a relief. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Wrong. Hope you found out how wrong before it happened
Install a fresh air scoop and do away with the cooling fan belt. Gains extra 2 H.P. as well.
In the states we say, “entering the pattern.” I thought I heard you announce, “joining the circus.” LOL
That fly on the windscreen probably thinking "How the hell did I get way up here"
Increase fuel mixture, decrease RPM's, and pick up some airspeed on a slow descent to the airport to cool the heads.
For future reference...Max EGT 1200° with a 50° Split @ max, CHT Max 350°
If power had quit at the tree line they would not be here today. They should have stayed high till the last minute over the runway coming back in
I dunno, they gained a lot of extra speed trying to get down there
Plenty of energy, maybe a little low but had options, plus many a pilot have stuck there plane in tree canopies and lived to tell about it.
The decision to return to the airport should have happened either as soon as the engine hiccuped or definitely when the cyl head temp started to rise... why did you wait?
At the time, I was a student in training waiting for direction. I definitely know better now.
Did the owner actually say 1100 degrees when asked what a normal cylinder head temperature was? Jesus Christ! When asked what it was the day before, he had no idea. They put those instruments in for a reason. Use them, and know where they belong. Not sure what engine you have in that thing, but I try to keep my cylinder head temps around 360 degrees and will never go above 400. Above that, the wear on the cylinders due to oil thinning goes way up. Continentals usually have a 460-degree red line, but that should be considered an emergency limit.
Mate thats melt down Temps
Not to nitpick, (too late) shouldn't the deteriorating belt been detected on the pre-flight?
Yes, you’re absolutely correct. I didn’t have a pre-flight check list at the time and so it was missed. I have since put together a checklist and the belt is on the list.
@@chrisgeneau1023 Excellent!
These guys should practice over a cemetery. Saves time.
Hi Chris… trying to get a contact at the Stouffville fly club for passenger endorsement flight training. Any thoughts?
Try Bill Bryan at Toronto Aerosport 1 (647) 218-5403
Nice video, great u got back to base to chk the issue
did u put blet urself? how much it cost u
Yes, I have replaced the belt a couple of times since then. There was corrosion on the pulley causing premature wear on the belt. The pulley has now been replaced and a new belt installed. The cost was minimal. There are RUclips videos showing the replacement and adjustment procedure for the 503 fan belt.
Chris Geneau thx
At 5:13, did anyone else think that there was a bug on their phone screen?? Lol
Easy to solve, have the fanbelt only complete a set number of flights and log it. Simples!!
Should head back at first sign of trouble. Not worth it
If the fan belt failed you would have landed in about 2 minutes
It failed. Pulled the exhaust manifold the following day to make sure the rings weren’t stuck. Replaced the belt and it’s been good ever since. Tension and visual check is definitely part of my pre-flight check now.
Heavy left foot
It sounds like it's already in a rad spin into the ground
Soooo, let's recap shall we....these pretend pilots hear a strange and "concerning " noise coming from this flying coffin and instead of returning immediately to the field, they continue on? Outstanding safety plan. These guys are to pilots what Jeremy Dimwitte is to cops.
massively overblown clickbait title, to a very dull video. very very dull
maybe: "Challenger II fan belt failure in flight lightly lukewarms things up" - could be more accurate
In aviation, that is exactly what you want. Dull is good!
Not sure if I would want to fly in something that sounds like a sewing machine