Cara currently has a large debt for maintenance services due to the huge influx of users, so guys, please support them and "buy them a coffee" or spread the word if you can't afford it.
I am really liking it! It does feel VERY similar to Instagram but I think that is a good thing. truly F meta for trying this, but also huge applause for the artist community for coming together and creating a space where we can actually be apart of an artistic community. The only problem I see is longevity. I know for a fact it is expensive to run platforms like Cara, so hopefully there are enough paying artists and supporters to help alleviate the financial burden of hosting. With that all being said, once again F meta, but also again F meta.
I think it has a lot of potential personally, reminds me in the best way of the best facebook-groups I've been in years ago. Friendly interaction and a focus on discussion about art, tooltips, or just appreciating the artworks of others. It does look very promising.
There is nothing wrong with AI taking your art for reference. Humans do it all the time, why are we so full of ourselves that its okay for US to do it but anything else and we throw a fit. Every single thing you draw, is from other people, visuals, references. You take a human and tell them to draw a bicycle without ever showing them one in their lives, no references, no looking at other people's art, they'd be helpless. Welcome to the future, artists are just like celebrities now, they have no say in who takes their face and does whatever they want to it because they are 'famous' we think we can do anything.
@@nicywicy you're confusing the issue. If a human steals from another's art we call that plagiarism as well and for good reason. examples were even given in this video, so I really don't know what you're talking about
and its not gonna stop anytime soon ...and also many small websites like these can eventually pop up where artists can migrate to only for them to eventually flip it for some cash
@@GoblinEgg Cara website creator already fought 2 Lawsuit against Big Companies and Winning. i would rather put my trust on someone who already fought and had the courage to not let them win. i'm questioning you dude, if you don't want Artists to have safe space and small win, then why don't you Donate your own Face, Fingerprint, Voice, Signature, and all of your personal information to Meta and Google First. so that the AI can impersonate you. or else why would anyone take your opinion seriously
Saying those just show you know nothing about Cara at all. The founder of Cara is Jingna Zhang, an artist who get damage by AI thief in the first place so she creat Cara as a safe place for artist like her. If you're still in doubt, you can alway do some research about Jingna Zhang, she had win the lawsuit again a plagiarism after go through 2 year of hardship. So please stop spread misinfomation and do some research before making any statement.
Value is created when something is sold. The dominant philosophy taught in MBA programs. Labor/material is an expense that should be kept as low as possible or free or subsidized *wink* working class foots the bill. The oroboros of monopoly will eat us all and then eat itself, it's a death cult.
But if you can't beat them, maybe join them? You might find something really amazing, I did! You can use pre trained AI to help visualize your ideas or even spark new ideas, not kidding it's been AMAZING. Don't forego what could be something beautiful.
Instagram isn't social media... It's algorithm media meant to keep your attention hooked for as long as possible... it's no longer about connecting with people you want to connect with.
Fully agree! A platform that ranks posts from people I explicitly FoLLoW lower than uncountable sponsored ads and suggestions of big unknown creators I’m not interested in - is not a social media platform to begin with. I constantly have to visit all my friends‘ and followed profiles to remain notified about their posts, otherwise it just stops showing them to me altogether, even when they post something. That’s 💩
On top of the AI crap, Meta became very problematic with artists these last years in terms of audience and visibility. I have a small 5k followers but still only 300 views when I post a new drawing. Only 1% of my audience comes from hashtags. Meta wants us to pay to show our art to the audience that already follows us and to pay more to get us new followers. I have even seen artists being banned for posting nude (but non sexual) pose studies. Meta hates artists. Meta is all about money and money never was the friend of creativity.
Truth. There's also the problem that their algorithms increasingly prioritize ragebait (eg intentionally inflammatorily worded clickbait articles exploiting existing controversies, real or imagined) because that shit has proven to draw much more engagement, which of course means more ad revenue potential for Meta. It's hard as a creative person not to feel constantly despondent these days.
its literally every site, every piece of software . Photoshop is now updated to scrape your art even as you are making it, Windows 11 just updated to do the same, it literally scrapes everything in your drive and takes random screenshots to upload to the cloud of your desktop
Just an added factor to Meta and it's stuff. Facebook is swamped with AI gen stuff that it's unreal. Most that use facebook will side with AI gen because it's swamped with it. Most of my family and friends that still use FB, follow at least 3-4 AI gen pages, un/knowingly. Specially with the elderly following every page they see. As well as Instagram being similar.. What I've noticed is the knowledge gap.. Most people live under a rock. You have to actively find AI news because 'Normal News/TV news' typically never touches AI gen topics. Plus typically the news is 'For' AI gen or play it off as a joke.. Like we still live in 2021 with DALL-E 1 with blobs of mass humans, 10 fingered demons, or 1000 teeth grins.
It gets worse: apparently Adobe just pulled the same thing with it's most recent updates--complete and total ownership + usage rights with your works, NDA or not. (You can't even unsubscribe or uninstall without agreeing to their terms first.)
@@Nek-my8jqit should have been just another tool. And in a better world I’m sure it would have been. All the people saying it’s a tool, like you said, don’t really see the broader systems at play here. These companies are literally trying to force us out of the job. It’s a very slow process but just like entropy its going to reach a point where there’s nothing left.
use, CSP or Krita, don't let them have their way and bully people around. all the other alternatives are already powerful enough to give them a real competition.
At the rate things are going with social media, I'm very much tempted to go old school and build my own website from literal scratch, and host it myself. Not sure how well that will work but I'm so tired of constantly having to migrate from platform to platform every time one of them sells out. I see the patterns. A new platform pops up, everyone migrates or "escapes" to it, and then once it's established and people are enjoying it for a while, they sell out to the Big companies, compromising the very values they claimed to uphold. This is nothing new to me. I'm very skeptical these days. Please forgive my skepticism.
Cara members are also artist and nothing like Elon or Zuckerberg, these two are a cancer for artist and creative people. I share your scepticism about new social media but I want to trust Cara, if even artist betray us for some profit I will just share art to my friend, traditionally.
The way things are going in social media, it's like making your own site is the only reasonable way to go :/ After all, with discoverability is the toilet om the main socials, I'm wondering what the advantage of them is anymore.
Having your own website is absolutely the way to go for artists! I’m currently trying out this very thing as an aspiring artist that would like to make comics and other artwork as a longtime dream. I only have hotlinked artwork to my Socials and never directly uploaded them because I was already aware of how these Social Media companies (Including Google) can claim ownership of your content via their TOS’s. Hosting your own site off a home PC isn’t a bad choice, but do consider that if you gain a high volume of traffic to your site, it’ll slow down your internet connection! Knowing how much traffic your connection can handle is a good thing to do and you can verify it with your ISP as well via Email or Phone. Do keep in mind that you’ll also have to maintain security for your PC, you’ll have to account for the potential of hackers, or just belligerent people who may wish to mess with you with say, DDOS attacks on your server! It’s not that artists usually have those issues, but, with any measure of success comes dangers of its own. “Plan for the worst, Hope for the best” kind of thing. Godspeed on your endeavors! I wish you great success.
Your skepticism is completely understandable and warranted. Just don't forget what happened to smaller companies like Parler when they started to rise as a competitor that opposed censorship. The big companies worked together against them under the guise of "safety" by kicking them off their app stores and disabling their web hosting. They were eventually bought out and shut down the same day. Even elbmuR (in case Big Mama YT tries to censor my comment) gets crap for being a competitor to YT.
What some artists don't understand is that all platforms start small. Only we, artists are able to make them known and let them grow by using and sharing them with others.
I missed the days of small, but sweet community driven websites. Over the years, I've seen a lot of new art websites pop-up and crash. Nonetheless, I'm always excited for them because I feel with each new one, they always improve compared to it's predecessors. So far, after doing a lot of research on Cara's creators, I like their dedication, direction, and transparency. Of course, they're now facing the challenge on the huge influx of users and it really make or break it. I still what to support them, because at heart, they want to support artists, as the creator is an artist herself, and even fought for herself from injustice. I want to have hope that one day in the future, it would be more normal for social media platforms to care about the users and communities, especially after more than a decade of so many big corpos pretty much selling us out and breaking our souls after many years of being on their platform (´._.`)
Legislation needs to catch up asap. All this AI nonsense is a basic Copyright and Privacy issue, we've had laws for these things for DECADES, we just need them to adapt to this new tech.
That's one of the issues AI is shining a light on. At least for those oblivious to it. Politics is sloooow. And AI won't stop for it. Politics are also different in different countries. Stop it in one, it'll continue in another. It's like the space-race all over again.
Although I agree, the problem is that in the terms of service of Meta's apps is that by using the app, everything you post is owned by Meta. It's very unfortunate but they have that as an excuse. And yes, they could make laws against this, but Meta works with the government and people's data makes both of them money. Meaning that it's probably unlikely to happen :/
There's copy right law, but pirating still exists. There's no law can stop this, the AI tech is far more superior than what laws can do to it, it will be impossible for them to get caught.
*_It's at 500,000 users now!! WOOP!_* We have to make sure to support Cara until the owners can find a way to keep it a float with so many users. *_Let's keep it standing guys!!! Show the corpos they're not the only game in town!!!_*
I read somewhere that they're going to start having it paid to keep it afloat. Others suggested having ads in it but not sure what's the current update on this one
@@pinktrash2720 No update, the team is exhausted, and working hard. They barely get to sleep. Those are just community recommendations - people suggesting stuff to help.
lol, smash cut a few months ahead: omg I can't believe this social media site is literally the same as every social media site ever made, but this OTHER new one is definitely THE ONE
Hearing about the small art community niche back when deviantart was the only platform was very nice to hear about, thank you for talking about it. I feel like not enough people talk about old times like that where you were just free to make your art, grow a small community, make friends, and the only worry was just art theft and scams. I miss those old times and finding out that now artists are just used as free real estate is so frustrating especially when deviantart has now changed along with other apps like twitter and instagram. Where at one time, deviantart was THE place for artists, has now back stabbed everyone that did feel safe, looked up to the website (was on there for 11+ years), and it feels like artists have to hide in a corner and live in fear and it shouldn't have to be like that but now it is. I've been on Cara for almost a week now and I hope it grows beyond deviantart, instagram and twitter.
This is exactly why opt-in should've been the default, NOT opt-out processes that require many hoops to jump through with a chance that the company will just reject your request and keep scrapping your work to begin with. Its so difficult to have respect for the tech industry anymore when they have THIS level of disrespect for artists in general. I am looking forward to using Cara, though. I may mainly a commissioner and viewer and mostly do art as a hobby, but I'm more than happy to support myself and all of the great creators I've been following through thick and thin over the years on a place that respects them and their craft.
at this point, I blame everyone using AI art, even "just for fun" or to "see what it looks like" more than the companies. Its the users that keep giving them enough money to justify these actions even knowing the art used to train the AIs was stolen and the work created from should fall under copyright infringement ....
I used to play with the free Bing Ai from time to time just for fun I liked understanding and figuring out how it works but it started feeling like I was feeding the beast so I haven't touch it since.
The issue here is, artists can fight it all they want, but it won't ever stop AI from taking their jobs in the end. IF, and that's a big if, *every* first world country in the world implements such restrictions, companies would then hire artists or pay for art to train it, as it wouldn't cost a fraction of its long-term profit. If one of said countries do not implement such restrictions, they would have a leg up in the AI game. There's always one. So they'd win the race.
@@ProxCyde the jobs being affected is a result of progress sadly. It as happened before and it will keep happening... Right now the issue is more the legality of the ai being made in my opinion. I can accept progress and my possible future plans having to be changed as long as copyright is being respected and artist are being treated fairly. I'm sure most of the artists wouldn't be as angry if ai had been trained correctly from the start
@@ErisFrance0honestly, the copyright system is completely broken. It was intended to be used for companies who have lawyers, because individuals couldn't make anything on their own without back then.
@@ErisFrance0 this is not progress, in fact we are at the throes of a new age of obscurantism, even feudalism might make a comeback if you listen what the elite think tanks are peddling
Would not be surprised if RUclips joins the AI bandwagon very soon. No doubt in my mind they're training something off the billions of videos they host.
This is precisely the first stage. Everyone thinks that AI won't destroy humanity, but these initial actions are exactly what open the door to AI. It seems insignificant, but the future is clear. Pray.
@@pastuh a few tech trillionaires with infinite money while billions of people live in extreme poverty. I mean, the people at the WEF already made it very clear that they plan to depopulate the world, have you eat the bugs, live in the pod, "own nothing and be happy". its clear as day what the plan is
@@pastuh the image of the beast: sounds like personal ai antichrist like in ready player one where the guy that created it put himself, his brain into the game
I'm personally just tired of A.I. invading all of my life :/ .The Adobe stuff that just came out , Instagram is on it too, and I just saw a fake A.I. made, "anatomy book" this morning. Besides nobody cares about A.I. Safety except a few people.
Just wait for jobs of the masses being affected directly by AI an you will see them suddenly understanding why artists (plus musicians and programmers now) are so much against it.
They want to do the same thing with Microsoft Recall. They'll basically have access to your source code if you're a programmer and be able to steal it. All of this new tech is being designed to eradicate our privacy and personal ownership. They'd invade your body if they had the legal means to do so.
But the companies that own those ads are the very people that push for art to be heavily and viciously censored-it's in their contracts and if the host site violates they lose the ads and get made to pay in legal fees and fines. THAT is the problem with ads
Its literally every single tech company, all social media sites and platforms do it, your phone does it, windows just updated to scrape your pictures, even Photoshop scrapes your work before you even post it. There's simply no way to be a digital artist anymore and not get your work stolen by the AI.
@@princessthyemis just learning about it myself, apparently with the latest update microsoft included a lot of AI stuff pre-packaged and it literally takes screenshots of what you are working on in your desktop to upload to the cloud, of course by default all of the scraping is turned ON. Apple actually got into deep shit for something like these because devices were uploading and saving files that were already deleted and due to a security failure or something a lot of users where getting them to show back up again, imagine seeing a picture you deleted years ago popping up today because it was scraped by them and saved without your consent.
@@princessthyemis It's called Microsoft Recall and it's probably the biggest violator of personal data privacy and security I've ever seen thus far. There is absolutely NO other reason for this tech to exist than for them to spy on you and steal from you.
I'm not a professional artist yet but i'll likely make an account on cara, I stopped using social media about 6 years ago. But i grew up using forums as the main way people connected online, they introduced me to community art contests & i really made some progress by giving & recieving constructive criticism in those smaller, more tightly knit communities back in the day.
Cara probably won't work as well as Instagram for artists because it's an art-focused platform. What makes Instagram a good place is that we also have non-artists to appreciate and hire.
I'm honestly just tired in general. I've always been in this position where regardless of where I go, nobody really cares. And I don't know if it's because of a lack of consistency of uploads, or because I'm not great at networking with other artists, but in general I have never felt like I was part of the art community. I have only ever felt like a floater among other subgroups and been an artist for them, and even then it's always on the outside looking in. It's honestly frustrating when you often try to go out of your way to try and build meaningful connections but you kinda just get the door slammed in your face regardless of where you go. I'll still be using Cara A. because Meta is trash, and B. because I've been a member since its inception, it's just from my POV, it feels like something that well established artists will benefit from ultimately, likewise with every platform move.
You can make all the beautiful art in the world but if no one knows you exist or have anyone to share it with it almost defeats the purpose of creating for many of us.
who cares though? its the same thing with voices you cant run forever when it comes to AI as a whole might as well fight for you're right to post because regardless it takes our jobs or not ART is a deeper then "let me protect my stuff " artist just forget what this profession means... its sad people would rather hide then to appreciate your own work and this isn't the first time the art community went through stuff like this if anything its no different from tracers the amount of people that quit over a minor inconvenience is sad RIP joy dreamer -DONT GIVE UP Y'ALL 😔 do art for yourselves
LOL....most artists are not leaving IG, they are just adding Cara to their social media accounts. They are waiting to see what happens to Cara before leaving IG. Biggest issue with Cara is will collectors and galleries join Cara. Cara is asking for donations to keep running. Hopefully Cara works out, but someone in the long run is going to have to pay for the site.......either artists or advertisers
The single thing I hate the most from twitter or instagram is that having visibility depends on the whims of a neural network that changes the rules of the game without anyone knowing. I want a platform that tells me clearly what are the rules to follow to get to my audience, even if that means having a monthly subscription. I don't mind, as long as it works, because paid promotions in twitter DO NOT WORK.
Id love the delete my old Insta account as a protest against the AI stuff, but , ironically, i cant because the CAPTCHA wont let me login. It refuses to recognize me as a human.
this CAPTCHA "glitch" is probably a Meta ploy to stop people from doing just that, closing their accounts in protest. Gotta keep those user account numbers/appearances up for investors after all! 👍😃
I left a comment as a protest against the AI on adobe pdf channel, they deleted it twice!!! They definitely don't want us to resist the fact that they are scanning our hard drive under the cover of so called AI -- 19 ;)
I think an artist only platform is fantastic and is exactly what is broadly needed in the art community right now - not widespread outreach. I get that some people's livelihoods are based on public outreach but its become a jungle that is too overrun with predators at the moment. A degree of regrouping and insularity is needed right now i think. Leave IG to become artistically inbred with AI to the point where the wider public recognize that there is another space that they will seek out themselves for better art consumption. Regarding sustainability, I really wouldn't worry about that right now. There is a major grass roots type vibe in the air which might provide enough numbers and engagement where the creators can be very selective with who they partner with for funding. In such times, i would be even willing to pay subscription fees to keep it aloft if they demonstrate clear and active protective measures to keep the environment safe for all work being shared.
Honestly, the best thing to do is to have your own website. You won't get the exposure, but at least your art is safer...even though that can still be harvested by AI.
DeviantArt had a great sense of community back in the day (2005 era). I learned a lot from other artists on there, got my first commission work on there, and made genuine connections with other artists. And maybe it's because I was much more...talkative back then than I am now lol, but the userbase felt much more alive if that makes sense. I just got Cara two days ago, and while I'm not expecting it to be like old dA, it does feel much more artist-friendly than other social media. It's actually very exciting to see my favorite artists pop up on there! I hope more artists can make the move, and that Cara gets enough support to sustain itself and grow.
Fun fact for Photoshop users. You gotta opt out of AI learning in your creative cloud user settings. The latest versions (the ones with generative fill) are set up to "learn from you". Kinda gross. I still use PS2020. In my ravenous hatred of the machine, I have been trying different styles in my art more so now. AI art has a look. Particularly in the soft rendering. And the hands... It's real bad at hands. I've done away with my smudge tool and am letting my bush strokes be. If it continues to stay bad maybe I'll go back to paper and pens. The dark ages.
I cannot assume to know the kind of art you use Photoshop for, but if it’s an illustrative type, I’d highly recommend Krita as a free, open-source alternative program, which in its current form even allows for animation capabilities and comic book production! It’s very impressive for what it is and offers to artists! Photoshop still reigns supreme as a photo editing and manipulation program, and I suppose its 3D rendering capability isn’t bad either. I tend to jump between Krita and PS CS6 often. Only gripe is Krita can open PSD file format but not vice versa! :(
At the moment I'm not posting my work because I'm making a short film (Id rather keep it secret for awhile) but it feels good to see art from Artists i care about & I'm gonna donate as soon as I get paid
Definitely made a Cara account myself but not trying to jump ship so suddenly. I think, and strongly hope , that this AI fiasco would be just a temporary road block and then it'll go away. For example when cameras were first invented all portrait artists thought that their job is over and so on... it did bring some problems for a while but after that everything came back to normal one way or the other. Until the day we can understand completely and create a human out of nothing we can't make AI 's mind better than ours. It's just a good thought to have...sadly some people don't realize that. Cheers!
a photo and a painting are two different things, this is an algorithm that actually makes the painting. Some market for "man made stuff" will always be there, but as far as professional fields and careers concern it seems to be over. Concept artist, illustrator, graphic designer, comic artist, t-shirt design, advertising illustration, editorial, etc are getting fucked over hard.
I'm on Cara as well, started my journey there during Plein Airpril. I'm excited to network with more artists and not be bombarded with content that I don't want because a social media company wants to be the other social media that is the trend and current rage. It's just disheartening that there's the incentive like Imorten Joe from Mad Max "you use our platform therefore we own you and will steal your content for using it."
"AI" is just a marketing term for more advanced algorithms, something we already had for a while. Investors just go "WOWIE" and clap like seals when they hear the word "AI" because we've heard it be used in Science Fiction movies so whenever you hear the word "AI" you think of very cool and advanced technology. Flying cars, laser guns, space ships!... In reality it's the same tech we had before just slightly better at doing certain calculations. It's not a 1 to 1 creation of a mind. Not at all, it's just a fancier calculator that can now translate pixels, words and sound to numbers, it is then told what the "correct answers" are via training data based on those numbers and it works the calculation based on what worked fine before. Objectively speaking, it cannot create. It quite literally just blends different images together into an abomination, it has no concept, inspiration nor thoughts. It's just a Photoshop Calculator.
I will start deleting all my artwork form Instagram - mainly concept art- in a few days. Already have acc on Cara I believe more then year, but in that time didn't noticed improvements there in usability. You and other big names with followers could propose subversive actions like: month where artist would post faces with eyes positioned incorectly - little bit lower - or too close, or mouth that are too big... things like that could ruin data for ai.
@@Erinba Glaze and Nightshade are "a tool with the explicit goal of protecting human creatives against invasive uses of generative artificial intelligence or GenAI" Just google Project Glaze for a better description than what I could offer
I’ve noticed consistently through social media and Cara, that there’s a dominant environment of artists who work in digital medium. I don’t know how involved a lot of these artists are in the fine art world, but I’d like to get to know some of those that do.
it's pretty much best you either RUclips your art, Cara is doing a good start but I won't review until I know(I have started using it), have your own website which is probably where people take you seriously. Probably best working on your art and products and marketing it like a business person other than socials is also gonna become important as time goes on. It's like starting a small business pretty much. This is going to have it's own set of problems for individuals. Thanks again for this video sir! Brush sauce and you are doing amazing stuff as always!
A major problem I see with this is neurodivergent people or any others who may have an innately harder time with marketing socialization and the like will struggle more regardless of their artistic level
@@Amaling it was already pointless on social media due to oversaturation and how algorithms work even before AI. Any meme reposting account beats artists, Social media already devalued artist work and made them into "content creators" who have to post crappy memes daily to even get seen
This was in my recommended and thanks to your vid, I now know about Cara. I might give it a shot once I have some art worth displaying. Thank you for the valuable info!
Im there. It’s been great so far. I chose to support them financially because I believe i the mission. I know it’s not the critical mass spot for meeting the outside world and potential customers but that isnt mattering to me that much. I’ve had interactions with artists ive admired for a long time now and it feels really wonderful.
The only reason I don't delete IG is because there are many non-artists there and that's the place where my clients find me. But since ArtStation sold us I was waiting for something to replace it and now Cara is doing that - it's both portfolio place and art social media - a lot of discussions between artists
Thank god I never started to post on Instagram, easier to transition or start anew. Screw them, not using Instagram anymore, or maybe I will uploading Cara processed images :)
I think the Cara situation is not only a testimony to the current state of the internet towards artists but to the current state of the internet as a whole. Unlike 10-15 years ago nowadays 4 to 5 major corporations run the majority of the traffic deciding what we see, what we can say and keeping track of every move we make. This is one of the first symtomph of a very needed decentralization process.
I think the way Meta formulated it is enough to deter many people from even trying to opt out, because they make you feel like you need to come up with some big fancy reason why. At least that was my thinking for about three days, until I finally decided to just say that if they don't opt me out I'll simply delete my account. Two seconds later I got an auto-reply saying my request had been granted 🤣
I’ve been a professional artist/ illustrator for over 40 years. Last year I stopped posting ANY of my art online because of the theft. Now it’s going to be even worse! I watched the system take away my right to royalties-all illustration jobs became “work for hire”. AI is another step in crushing our ability to earn a living.
Ads is what makes every platform go to trash. The owners of the ads make the host site sign a legal document that binds them to adhere to the kinds of content they do and don't want. This is where all the annoying censorship, seemingly random bans and viscous althogs everyone complains about actually comes from. If the host site does not comply, they get drug to court for violation, lose the ads, and have to pay legal fees and fines. Ads are sadly NOT the answer
Find like minded brands that are pro-free speech/anti-censorship, not hard to do. Also, the other solution to this is charge subscription fees. Unfortunately, artists will then complain that they don't want to pay for it even though it's in their best interests to do... user subscription fee to save your work from being ripped off by gen AI is too expensive? If you support the message talk with your wallet. If you want free and easy well then you learn nothing is truly free when you stolen from.
Personally, I think it’s less ads and more stock investors. Public companies have the legal fiduciary responsibility to maximize investor returns, which incentivizes extremely dehumanizing and short term solution to bringing in a profit. Sustainability goes out the window. If you’re not concerned with maximizing profits, then finding just enough ad sponsors to sustain operating costs seems doable.
The “right to object” link doesn’t appear on my settings. Now I have to jump through further hoops, write a 100 word paragraph of why I object scraping and provide a screenshot of my art being used for Ai art… RIDICULOUS!!! To top it off, Meta might reject my opting out altogether. UGH!
No doubt they will reject the 100 word paragraph written by an AI bot, as they are apparently trying to make it as difficult as possible so people just say "screw it!" and don't finish the process. Maybe not, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
I pretty much stopped posting art after Instagram started curating video instead of pictures. Trying to move to twitter but its still hard over there too.
Man, I'm old, I remember when Elfwood was around 3000 years ago. I miss the old Internet and communities like that, all this social network stuff isn't my thing really. I'll probably give Cara a shot, I like the vibe, haven't seen stuff like that in a long time.
Elfwood was wonderful until the moderators became elitists and only catered to the already-professional artists out there in the industry. I was still (and am, currently again) an aspiring artist that tried to join Elfwood but couldn’t because of the strong barrier of needing to be an established professional prior to joining (at least this was so when I tried to join, early 2000’s). DeviantArt was a decent successor, but has its share of issues too. I’m still unsure on how it promotes art lol. Can’t tell if I can base my “success” on views or likes! It’s confusing for me in that regard, but I’m old school myself.
@@auribusteneolupum2977 the experience you described reminds me a lot of Epilogue, which was a platform mostly targeted for professionals (and it didn't have section for writers like Elfwood did), it went instinct once they started censoring stuff, and I remember exactly what you described, really strict moderating process every time you wanted to publish something. And I agree about DeviantArt, however I may be a wrong person to judge, since I barely get any views there, let alone likes (I'm not that much active and I publish something one in a few years, for me returning to these sites is like coming back to a crime scene).
Thank you for the great video, Tyler! As a social media hater I still have to use it but now I have an excuse to jump the ship and maybe even enjoy the social media for once.
I don't think its really people jumping ship, but more that there are people who are hoping to get the early adopter boost of joining a new social media site. I would be surprised if many of the people who are joining Cara will stop posting in other platforms ( even if they don't opt out of the IG data collection ) That said its always good to see another platform appear that seems to have great potential. We just have to wait to see how they plan to make Cara sustainable since a 20k+ per month server bill is not something anyone can pay themselves for very long. If they go with ads then they will have to do some form of data-collection since all advertising clients demand some sort of ability to accurately target users and in order to target someone you have to have some information about them. If they go with a subscription model, they will kill the platform since most users won't pay. If they do both then its kind of the same as every other platform and that would not really be a bad thing, but it could make it harder for them to stay alive.
100%, you hit the nail on the head and no one else wants to admit this. Also, not to be negative, but ANOTHER glaring issue is that it doesn’t matter how many artists are “jumping ship” to Cara - or any other platform for that matter - if no one else is on it. I don’t like Instagram any more than the next person, but until another platform comes along that can support artists but ALSO be adopted by the mainstream, it won’t matter.
It's a tricky thing considering crap policy changes are sometimes requested by advertisers. "promote that or we will pull out" or "you better not be announcing that other thing, it's not on brand for us". I hope the site pulls through. It'd be nice if it sorted out the bugs too because it signed me out after the first evening of me uploading 1 image and I've been bugged out for days since xD
I just tried opting out just now and the page said that meta has sent a code to my gmail and I have to enter in this code, meta has yet to send the code and it’s been 30 minutes. I do not think I’ll ever get this code.
Hopefully Facebook will end up like My Space. I am not an artist but knowing that your art is being stolen aggravates me. I don’t like AI and have no intention of using it
This should be illegal. They're stealing copyrighted materials. There was no way people would've known AI on art would exist. All artists need to get together and bring a class action lawsuit against Meta, Chat GPT, etc, etc (& Adobe if they're doing the same thing).
As someone who's been in the online artspace like yourself since about 2006, I do like the idea of it but I think the eventual follow and scraping of data will happen regardless on any mass open platforms now. It's a war that can't be won because people want to monetize the convience of AI. Both sides eventually lose in war, I stopped posting much digital art freely online in these platforms years ago. I have no plans to return to these kind of platforms, I don't financially win for this but I've moved on I still make art and share it within small discord channels and with friends. This last month alone I've heard personal accounts of dozens of graphic artists and designers losing there jobs. If you want to stay in a commercial space doing grunt work as an artist right now your work and livelyhood is goning to be a casulty one day in the near future.
I think a subscription model is the best way to go. Ads would be a distraction, especially if they don't have the ability to moderate them. The ideal would be for them to figure out the average yearly cost for holding users' works in a scalable way, potentially allowing the platform to be cheaper as people join. An ad-free art club and union of sorts. People searching for real human artists can offer jobs there or find a support group. I can see it and I hope the business owners can find the most elegant financial solution so as to avoid harming the degradation of the sought-after experience.
you cant even object now, because they 'review' your objection, and 99% they will reject your objection. An objection is an objection; you cant review it. How is that even allowed?
I think the only way this may stop is if game company's and media groups realize they are just creating their own competition. When people can pop out full blown movies and games eventually easily.
I think I'm going to start Cara, and poison my future IG content, because my most connections with a huge part of my social group is through instagram.
It should be illegal for RUclips to shadow ban comments. Especially when they contain nothing offensive and you have no way to know which words cause it.
Let me tell you what will happen: once the new platform gets big enough, the owner will sell it and then it's the same old story with all big media platforms - ads, AI, subscriptions, etc, etc. They will simply change the TOS and all your work and dreams go into the toilet of AI. Enjoy while it lasts!
I've hosted my own website since 1995 (and it looks like it ;)) to post my comic art. A few years back I posted a few of my comics to deviant art to find a bigger audience. Was that a mistake? Is that website also scrapped? Was thinking about posting to fb but ive changed my mind about that, even though I opted out of their ai training thing, i simply don't trust ol Mark.
@@TylerEdlin84 I dont really. Im not a pro.. just a hobbyist. To be honest. I haven't done any serious work in about 3 years now. Trying to get my mojo back if u know what I mean. This a.i. crap hasn't been helping though. Like a lot of artists im feeling a bit demoralised.
cara feels slow for now. but i feel good about getting ahead of the game and getting the profile set up. it has some good features like portfolio view and categorization that I assume is linked to search results. easier to curate the varying art content you are interested in.
If only there were more ways for us to stay connected and share stuff without being predated by people or companies trying to commodify anything and everything, swindling people out of their privacy and intellectual property.
i doubt cara will last. i've seen plenty of these new social media platforms pass by as trends that aspire to be the new social media for artists. besides, they apperently are having an insanely hard time dealing with the expenses since the app has blown up this much. Adding on, cara is a general social media app. people keep promoting it as just for artists. this is like, disaster for any freelance artists who make money on social media. I draw book covers for authors, they are not on cara. Big ass chunk of my audience gone.
As a programmer and artist. The knowledge I have acquired about how the AI (Checkpoints, Loras, VAE, etc) work, I have come to simply understand that no matter where do you upload your art online, as long as a person can make a copy of it (not necessarily a company, platform, etc) those image database made by human beings, can be used to train these models. So really, the only way you can avoid anyone to use your original content for AI model training, is just getting out of the entire internet. This is just a fact, because I know how these models are prepared, I see people even taking thousands of still images even from videos, then training AI models. So yeah, the truth is, humans been doing this before AI came along, people blend in a human way everything they see, in reality those who have deep roots in art, know this, art is just inspiration of many little things we see around us, we train our brain "models" to make a unique style, but behind it all, there is a "data" we collected from many different places to come up with it all, in a conscious and subconscious way. Take care everyone! and no matter what, just keep doing what you love, and just keep moving forward! SeeYa!
I understand the complaints but I believe people are overreacting. This new world tech is crazy and sucks in some ways but going to this new platform probably won’t hurt Meta as much as the individual artists. Building a brand requires that we share our work in every way possible without fear and worry. If people or even Ai bots can see it they can steal it. I worry more about artists hiding their work away in fear and because of that Ai generative art will have even more visibility on the market.
You are aware that everybody can make a screenshot and feed the AI themselves. Even if an artist completely disappears from the internet, one can still visit the exhibition, take a photo, and feed it into MidJourney or whichever AI they choose. I don’t see any escape unless there are exhibitions without photography. Maybe we will find new solutions for how we present our art. The good thing is that AI can’t really paint, make sculptures or installations, or perform any kind of performance art. I made a lot of experiments with high-quality art pieces and tried to achieve a better result with AI, but that doesn’t work really because there are so many physical and real elements missing in an art piece. Experimenting with AI can give an artist very interesting new inspirations, but the execution would probably be very different from a real artist.
Silver lining is now between this, the Windows recall recording PC activity and Adobes recent sublicensing TOS changes, now the outcry over enduser exploitation (that ideally couldve started a decade earlier when these cloud centric spyware norms were being introduced) is finally gaining steam.
I get it. I just don't get what's gonna stop someone from just taking a pic of your work from their phone and putting it online via those databases. Art theft exists everywhere. Putting it out there is a risk regardless of how you do it
Social media fatigue describes me to a tee. However I was tired of drawing in the void and knew I needed a bit better reach to get more jobs coming in and also people I met at events would ask me for my socials and I wouldn't have much to show them. So, I decided to really start giving regular posting to my instagram a fair shot.... literally this April.... and now this. Back a while ago I thought that the artist focus social media might be Artstation, but that fell through as well, it seems. Idk if cara will have a similar vibe to Artstation (or a similar fate). As of right now I haven't jumped on the cara train yet, but if it proves to be a place where art directors might look I may give it a shot.
Cara has a problem as a replacement for Insta in that it will only have artists on there. Unless fans, clients & buyers download it too, then its just us looking at us which is fine, but until we are all ONLY on Cara, theyll all.prefer to find us in amongst the other content they enjoy.
at some point, hopefully soon, SCOTUS will settle the issue and it will be favorable to the artists ... i'm at the boiling point with these social platforms and text-to-image ai
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Cara currently has a large debt for maintenance services due to the huge influx of users, so guys, please support them and "buy them a coffee" or spread the word if you can't afford it.
I am really liking it! It does feel VERY similar to Instagram but I think that is a good thing. truly F meta for trying this, but also huge applause for the artist community for coming together and creating a space where we can actually be apart of an artistic community. The only problem I see is longevity. I know for a fact it is expensive to run platforms like Cara, so hopefully there are enough paying artists and supporters to help alleviate the financial burden of hosting. With that all being said, once again F meta, but also again F meta.
I think it has a lot of potential personally, reminds me in the best way of the best facebook-groups I've been in years ago. Friendly interaction and a focus on discussion about art, tooltips, or just appreciating the artworks of others. It does look very promising.
There is nothing wrong with AI taking your art for reference. Humans do it all the time, why are we so full of ourselves that its okay for US to do it but anything else and we throw a fit. Every single thing you draw, is from other people, visuals, references. You take a human and tell them to draw a bicycle without ever showing them one in their lives, no references, no looking at other people's art, they'd be helpless. Welcome to the future, artists are just like celebrities now, they have no say in who takes their face and does whatever they want to it because they are 'famous' we think we can do anything.
@@nicywicy you're confusing the issue. If a human steals from another's art we call that plagiarism as well and for good reason. examples were even given in this video, so I really don't know what you're talking about
they devalue artists' work, then go behind artists' backs and harvest their work for their own gain... I'd expect no less.
and its not gonna stop anytime soon ...and also many small websites like these can eventually pop up where artists can migrate to only for them to eventually flip it for some cash
@@GoblinEgg Cara website creator already fought 2 Lawsuit against Big Companies and Winning.
i would rather put my trust on someone who already fought and had the courage to not let them win.
i'm questioning you dude, if you don't want Artists to have safe space and small win,
then why don't you Donate your own Face, Fingerprint, Voice, Signature, and all of your personal information to Meta and Google First.
so that the AI can impersonate you.
or else why would anyone take your opinion seriously
Saying those just show you know nothing about Cara at all.
The founder of Cara is Jingna Zhang, an artist who get damage by AI thief in the first place so she creat Cara as a safe place for artist like her.
If you're still in doubt, you can alway do some research about Jingna Zhang, she had win the lawsuit again a plagiarism after go through 2 year of hardship.
So please stop spread misinfomation and do some research before making any statement.
Value is created when something is sold. The dominant philosophy taught in MBA programs. Labor/material is an expense that should be kept as low as possible or free or subsidized *wink* working class foots the bill. The oroboros of monopoly will eat us all and then eat itself, it's a death cult.
But if you can't beat them, maybe join them?
You might find something really amazing, I did! You can use pre trained AI to help visualize your ideas or even spark new ideas, not kidding it's been AMAZING. Don't forego what could be something beautiful.
Instagram isn't social media... It's algorithm media meant to keep your attention hooked for as long as possible... it's no longer about connecting with people you want to connect with.
well said
Preach 🙏🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌👏👏👏
Fully agree! A platform that ranks posts from people I explicitly FoLLoW lower than uncountable sponsored ads and suggestions of big unknown creators I’m not interested in - is not a social media platform to begin with.
I constantly have to visit all my friends‘ and followed profiles to remain notified about their posts, otherwise it just stops showing them to me altogether, even when they post something.
That’s 💩
Where’s my anti gravity skateboard. I was promised cool tech not predatory oligarchs. Phooey!
My Sonic Riders dream is not coming true, unfortunately. 🥲
Thats capitalism
You get the most boring version of the Cyberpunk Dystopia
😂🙌
you should have payed more attention to what cyberpunk really promised.
On top of the AI crap, Meta became very problematic with artists these last years in terms of audience and visibility. I have a small 5k followers but still only 300 views when I post a new drawing. Only 1% of my audience comes from hashtags. Meta wants us to pay to show our art to the audience that already follows us and to pay more to get us new followers. I have even seen artists being banned for posting nude (but non sexual) pose studies. Meta hates artists. Meta is all about money and money never was the friend of creativity.
Truth. There's also the problem that their algorithms increasingly prioritize ragebait (eg intentionally inflammatorily worded clickbait articles exploiting existing controversies, real or imagined) because that shit has proven to draw much more engagement, which of course means more ad revenue potential for Meta. It's hard as a creative person not to feel constantly despondent these days.
its literally every site, every piece of software . Photoshop is now updated to scrape your art even as you are making it, Windows 11 just updated to do the same, it literally scrapes everything in your drive and takes random screenshots to upload to the cloud of your desktop
Just an added factor to Meta and it's stuff. Facebook is swamped with AI gen stuff that it's unreal. Most that use facebook will side with AI gen because it's swamped with it. Most of my family and friends that still use FB, follow at least 3-4 AI gen pages, un/knowingly. Specially with the elderly following every page they see. As well as Instagram being similar..
What I've noticed is the knowledge gap.. Most people live under a rock. You have to actively find AI news because 'Normal News/TV news' typically never touches AI gen topics. Plus typically the news is 'For' AI gen or play it off as a joke.. Like we still live in 2021 with DALL-E 1 with blobs of mass humans, 10 fingered demons, or 1000 teeth grins.
@@bake-io1cf WTF?! I hadn't heard of this yet. F**k, this is so disheartening and aggravating.
None of you are creative or original, not in the slightest.
Remember when robots were supposed to replace manual labor, not intellectual one?
oh they do replace manual labor, mostly with immigrants and outsourcing, but thats only because a robot is more expensive to implement than a software
They replace all workers
It gets worse: apparently Adobe just pulled the same thing with it's most recent updates--complete and total ownership + usage rights with your works, NDA or not. (You can't even unsubscribe or uninstall without agreeing to their terms first.)
the goal is to completely replace artists and make it impossible for artists to have a job, any idiot saying "its just another tool" is way off.
@@Nek-my8jqit should have been just another tool. And in a better world I’m sure it would have been. All the people saying it’s a tool, like you said, don’t really see the broader systems at play here. These companies are literally trying to force us out of the job. It’s a very slow process but just like entropy its going to reach a point where there’s nothing left.
use, CSP or Krita, don't let them have their way and bully people around.
all the other alternatives are already powerful enough to give them a real competition.
Ups. So I can't make any more logos because it is my customer's property not even mine! So they are stealing my customer's property.
"How do we get more people to pirate our software?"
At the rate things are going with social media, I'm very much tempted to go old school and build my own website from literal scratch, and host it myself. Not sure how well that will work but I'm so tired of constantly having to migrate from platform to platform every time one of them sells out. I see the patterns. A new platform pops up, everyone migrates or "escapes" to it, and then once it's established and people are enjoying it for a while, they sell out to the Big companies, compromising the very values they claimed to uphold. This is nothing new to me. I'm very skeptical these days. Please forgive my skepticism.
Cara members are also artist and nothing like Elon or Zuckerberg, these two are a cancer for artist and creative people.
I share your scepticism about new social media but I want to trust Cara, if even artist betray us for some profit I will just share art to my friend, traditionally.
Do it. social media is the worst thing that has ever happened to art. stop wasting your time.
The way things are going in social media, it's like making your own site is the only reasonable way to go :/ After all, with discoverability is the toilet om the main socials, I'm wondering what the advantage of them is anymore.
Having your own website is absolutely the way to go for artists! I’m currently trying out this very thing as an aspiring artist that would like to make comics and other artwork as a longtime dream.
I only have hotlinked artwork to my Socials and never directly uploaded them because I was already aware of how these Social Media companies (Including Google) can claim ownership of your content via their TOS’s.
Hosting your own site off a home PC isn’t a bad choice, but do consider that if you gain a high volume of traffic to your site, it’ll slow down your internet connection! Knowing how much traffic your connection can handle is a good thing to do and you can verify it with your ISP as well via Email or Phone.
Do keep in mind that you’ll also have to maintain security for your PC, you’ll have to account for the potential of hackers, or just belligerent people who may wish to mess with you with say, DDOS attacks on your server!
It’s not that artists usually have those issues, but, with any measure of success comes dangers of its own. “Plan for the worst, Hope for the best” kind of thing.
Godspeed on your endeavors! I wish you great success.
Your skepticism is completely understandable and warranted. Just don't forget what happened to smaller companies like Parler when they started to rise as a competitor that opposed censorship. The big companies worked together against them under the guise of "safety" by kicking them off their app stores and disabling their web hosting. They were eventually bought out and shut down the same day. Even elbmuR (in case Big Mama YT tries to censor my comment) gets crap for being a competitor to YT.
What some artists don't understand is that all platforms start small. Only we, artists are able to make them known and let them grow by using and sharing them with others.
normies don't even care, they just want endless streams of crap and nevermind its its all produced by some robot or an indian content farm
I missed the days of small, but sweet community driven websites. Over the years, I've seen a lot of new art websites pop-up and crash. Nonetheless, I'm always excited for them because I feel with each new one, they always improve compared to it's predecessors. So far, after doing a lot of research on Cara's creators, I like their dedication, direction, and transparency. Of course, they're now facing the challenge on the huge influx of users and it really make or break it. I still what to support them, because at heart, they want to support artists, as the creator is an artist herself, and even fought for herself from injustice. I want to have hope that one day in the future, it would be more normal for social media platforms to care about the users and communities, especially after more than a decade of so many big corpos pretty much selling us out and breaking our souls after many years of being on their platform (´._.`)
Legislation needs to catch up asap. All this AI nonsense is a basic Copyright and Privacy issue, we've had laws for these things for DECADES, we just need them to adapt to this new tech.
That's one of the issues AI is shining a light on. At least for those oblivious to it. Politics is sloooow. And AI won't stop for it. Politics are also different in different countries. Stop it in one, it'll continue in another. It's like the space-race all over again.
Like the music industry
Although I agree, the problem is that in the terms of service of Meta's apps is that by using the app, everything you post is owned by Meta. It's very unfortunate but they have that as an excuse. And yes, they could make laws against this, but Meta works with the government and people's data makes both of them money. Meaning that it's probably unlikely to happen :/
There's copy right law, but pirating still exists. There's no law can stop this, the AI tech is far more superior than what laws can do to it, it will be impossible for them to get caught.
*_It's at 500,000 users now!! WOOP!_*
We have to make sure to support Cara until the owners can find a way to keep it a float with so many users. *_Let's keep it standing guys!!! Show the corpos they're not the only game in town!!!_*
700K now!
@@KookooruzArt WOOP WOOP!!! That's awesome! I can't wait to see where this goes.
I read somewhere that they're going to start having it paid to keep it afloat. Others suggested having ads in it but not sure what's the current update on this one
@@pinktrash2720 No update, the team is exhausted, and working hard. They barely get to sleep. Those are just community recommendations - people suggesting stuff to help.
lol, smash cut a few months ahead: omg I can't believe this social media site is literally the same as every social media site ever made, but this OTHER new one is definitely THE ONE
Turns out, Adobe Photoshop is trying to steal our art now too. Have you seen the new TOS?
Ups. So I can't make any more logos because it is my customer's property not even mine! So they are stealing my customer's property.
Just to be direct, if you don't p1r4te Adobe, you're doing it wrong. They always stood on the side of big corp, never the artists.
im so glad ive been pirating it since i was 12 lol
If you use older version of Photoshop CS6 like I do then you're safe from their new TOS
@@mustanggox arrgg mate, lets sing a sea shanty
Hearing about the small art community niche back when deviantart was the only platform was very nice to hear about, thank you for talking about it. I feel like not enough people talk about old times like that where you were just free to make your art, grow a small community, make friends, and the only worry was just art theft and scams. I miss those old times and finding out that now artists are just used as free real estate is so frustrating especially when deviantart has now changed along with other apps like twitter and instagram. Where at one time, deviantart was THE place for artists, has now back stabbed everyone that did feel safe, looked up to the website (was on there for 11+ years), and it feels like artists have to hide in a corner and live in fear and it shouldn't have to be like that but now it is. I've been on Cara for almost a week now and I hope it grows beyond deviantart, instagram and twitter.
This is exactly why opt-in should've been the default, NOT opt-out processes that require many hoops to jump through with a chance that the company will just reject your request and keep scrapping your work to begin with. Its so difficult to have respect for the tech industry anymore when they have THIS level of disrespect for artists in general.
I am looking forward to using Cara, though. I may mainly a commissioner and viewer and mostly do art as a hobby, but I'm more than happy to support myself and all of the great creators I've been following through thick and thin over the years on a place that respects them and their craft.
This was why they chose opt-out. They were always expecting people to be too lazy to do anything.
at this point, I blame everyone using AI art, even "just for fun" or to "see what it looks like" more than the companies. Its the users that keep giving them enough money to justify these actions even knowing the art used to train the AIs was stolen and the work created from should fall under copyright infringement ....
I used to play with the free Bing Ai from time to time just for fun I liked understanding and figuring out how it works but it started feeling like I was feeding the beast so I haven't touch it since.
The issue here is, artists can fight it all they want, but it won't ever stop AI from taking their jobs in the end. IF, and that's a big if, *every* first world country in the world implements such restrictions, companies would then hire artists or pay for art to train it, as it wouldn't cost a fraction of its long-term profit.
If one of said countries do not implement such restrictions, they would have a leg up in the AI game. There's always one. So they'd win the race.
@@ProxCyde the jobs being affected is a result of progress sadly. It as happened before and it will keep happening... Right now the issue is more the legality of the ai being made in my opinion. I can accept progress and my possible future plans having to be changed as long as copyright is being respected and artist are being treated fairly. I'm sure most of the artists wouldn't be as angry if ai had been trained correctly from the start
@@ErisFrance0honestly, the copyright system is completely broken. It was intended to be used for companies who have lawyers, because individuals couldn't make anything on their own without back then.
@@ErisFrance0 this is not progress, in fact we are at the throes of a new age of obscurantism, even feudalism might make a comeback if you listen what the elite think tanks are peddling
Last year I deleted all my photos and video's from Instagram and tiktok. Then I deleted my accounts. I am now only on RUclips. So glad I did this.
Would not be surprised if RUclips joins the AI bandwagon very soon. No doubt in my mind they're training something off the billions of videos they host.
Really wanting to go back in time these days
in the lore of the Matrix within the simulation technology is perpetually stuck in the year 1999 . Wouldn't that be great?
You’re already a caveman living in the before times.
I started my Cara account on a few days ago on Monday. So far, i'm having fun with it. It's like Art Station meets X or thread.
I'm there too, a lot of famous artist from deviantart move on there aswell.
The Ai and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
This is precisely the first stage. Everyone thinks that AI won't destroy humanity, but these initial actions are exactly what open the door to AI. It seems insignificant, but the future is clear.
Pray.
@@pastuh a few tech trillionaires with infinite money while billions of people live in extreme poverty. I mean, the people at the WEF already made it very clear that they plan to depopulate the world, have you eat the bugs, live in the pod, "own nothing and be happy". its clear as day what the plan is
The human race is worse than a cockroach.
It's crazy because IT'S NEW and it's already causing so many problems out of the gate.
@@pastuh the image of the beast: sounds like personal ai antichrist
like in ready player one where the guy that created it put himself, his brain into the game
Where are all those who were saying "oh ai is just anther tool and it will never replace artist as photoshop did not" now?
Those people just gaslight themselves for their own benefit without realize they're just another sheep in the farm of AI company.
Still saying it afaik.
Those people were probably talentless people who didn't want to put the effort in learning something. So they probably still don't care.
I'm personally just tired of A.I. invading all of my life :/ .The Adobe stuff that just came out , Instagram is on it too, and I just saw a fake A.I. made, "anatomy book" this morning. Besides nobody cares about A.I. Safety except a few people.
The overwhelm, burnout, and disdain for this AI revolution is real. And the AI revolution is just getting started sadly.
Just wait for jobs of the masses being affected directly by AI an you will see them suddenly understanding why artists (plus musicians and programmers now) are so much against it.
Did you saw the update on Adobes "Terms of use" ?? They can now access your work, even the NDA stuff to train their AI models... Thats fucked up.
NDA? sorry, what is that?
Does this apply to pirated adobe photoshop
@@kayleem563 no internet , no scraping. Just firewall adobe from connecting to the internet
If you have ever used generative fill your work would have had to have gone through their server. This is so they cannot be taken to court for that.
They want to do the same thing with Microsoft Recall. They'll basically have access to your source code if you're a programmer and be able to steal it. All of this new tech is being designed to eradicate our privacy and personal ownership. They'd invade your body if they had the legal means to do so.
Here's hoping Cara doesn't end up being a flash in the pan like Hive Social. I really hope it succeeds.
showing ads is not a problem.everyone is used to it.they should go for it for revenue
I agree!
I agree I only find ads annoying on long form videos.
But the companies that own those ads are the very people that push for art to be heavily and viciously censored-it's in their contracts and if the host site violates they lose the ads and get made to pay in legal fees and fines. THAT is the problem with ads
@@daneascott9645 write better contracts and stick to your guns solved....business is war
@@marsmotion good luck getting a company to agree with it
Its literally every single tech company, all social media sites and platforms do it, your phone does it, windows just updated to scrape your pictures, even Photoshop scrapes your work before you even post it.
There's simply no way to be a digital artist anymore and not get your work stolen by the AI.
Can you tell me more!about the windows update???
@@princessthyemis just learning about it myself, apparently with the latest update microsoft included a lot of AI stuff pre-packaged and it literally takes screenshots of what you are working on in your desktop to upload to the cloud, of course by default all of the scraping is turned ON. Apple actually got into deep shit for something like these because devices were uploading and saving files that were already deleted and due to a security failure or something a lot of users where getting them to show back up again, imagine seeing a picture you deleted years ago popping up today because it was scraped by them and saved without your consent.
I went bak to ink and nibs, shit’s fun ah
@@princessthyemis It's called Microsoft Recall and it's probably the biggest violator of personal data privacy and security I've ever seen thus far. There is absolutely NO other reason for this tech to exist than for them to spy on you and steal from you.
I'm not a professional artist yet but i'll likely make an account on cara, I stopped using social media about 6 years ago. But i grew up using forums as the main way people connected online, they introduced me to community art contests & i really made some progress by giving & recieving constructive criticism in those smaller, more tightly knit communities back in the day.
Cara probably won't work as well as Instagram for artists because it's an art-focused platform. What makes Instagram a good place is that we also have non-artists to appreciate and hire.
They don't see us
Goodbye artists in Instagram
I'm honestly just tired in general. I've always been in this position where regardless of where I go, nobody really cares. And I don't know if it's because of a lack of consistency of uploads, or because I'm not great at networking with other artists, but in general I have never felt like I was part of the art community. I have only ever felt like a floater among other subgroups and been an artist for them, and even then it's always on the outside looking in.
It's honestly frustrating when you often try to go out of your way to try and build meaningful connections but you kinda just get the door slammed in your face regardless of where you go.
I'll still be using Cara A. because Meta is trash, and B. because I've been a member since its inception, it's just from my POV, it feels like something that well established artists will benefit from ultimately, likewise with every platform move.
The only way to win as an artist is to not share your art at all at this point.
You can make all the beautiful art in the world but if no one knows you exist or have anyone to share it with it almost defeats the purpose of creating for many of us.
@@TylerEdlin84 by posting on social media you are only feeding the AI and devaluing work, even without AI social media is a net negative for art
@@TylerEdlin84 its turning art into "content" for social media what ruined everything in the first place
You can create art in real life and try to share it that way. Not going to put any of my art online
who cares though? its the same thing with voices you cant run forever when it comes to AI as a whole might as well fight for you're right to post because regardless it takes our jobs or not ART is a deeper then "let me protect my stuff " artist just forget what this profession means... its sad people would rather hide then to appreciate your own work and this isn't the first time the art community went through stuff like this if anything its no different from tracers the amount of people that quit over a minor inconvenience is sad RIP joy dreamer -DONT GIVE UP Y'ALL 😔
do art for yourselves
LOL....most artists are not leaving IG, they are just adding Cara to their social media accounts. They are waiting to see what happens to Cara before leaving IG.
Biggest issue with Cara is will collectors and galleries join Cara. Cara is asking for donations to keep running. Hopefully Cara works out, but someone in the long run is going to have to pay for the site.......either artists or advertisers
The single thing I hate the most from twitter or instagram is that having visibility depends on the whims of a neural network that changes the rules of the game without anyone knowing. I want a platform that tells me clearly what are the rules to follow to get to my audience, even if that means having a monthly subscription. I don't mind, as long as it works, because paid promotions in twitter DO NOT WORK.
Id love the delete my old Insta account as a protest against the AI stuff, but , ironically, i cant because the CAPTCHA wont let me login. It refuses to recognize me as a human.
this CAPTCHA "glitch" is probably a Meta ploy to stop people from doing just that, closing their accounts in protest. Gotta keep those user account numbers/appearances up for investors after all! 👍😃
I left a comment as a protest against the AI on adobe pdf channel, they deleted it twice!!! They definitely don't want us to resist the fact that they are scanning our hard drive under the cover of so called AI -- 19 ;)
Also remember, Cara is a small team so don’t forget to donate if you can.
I haven’t heard of the app before watching this video, and honestly I RAN to make an account. Such a wonderful concept, i hope it is here to stay.
I think an artist only platform is fantastic and is exactly what is broadly needed in the art community right now - not widespread outreach. I get that some people's livelihoods are based on public outreach but its become a jungle that is too overrun with predators at the moment. A degree of regrouping and insularity is needed right now i think. Leave IG to become artistically inbred with AI to the point where the wider public recognize that there is another space that they will seek out themselves for better art consumption.
Regarding sustainability, I really wouldn't worry about that right now. There is a major grass roots type vibe in the air which might provide enough numbers and engagement where the creators can be very selective with who they partner with for funding. In such times, i would be even willing to pay subscription fees to keep it aloft if they demonstrate clear and active protective measures to keep the environment safe for all work being shared.
this is an unjustly underrated comment
Honestly, the best thing to do is to have your own website. You won't get the exposure, but at least your art is safer...even though that can still be harvested by AI.
exposure on mainstream social media is dead now anyway 🙃
Thanks for stand up in this period! Keep sharing the truth bro
DeviantArt had a great sense of community back in the day (2005 era). I learned a lot from other artists on there, got my first commission work on there, and made genuine connections with other artists. And maybe it's because I was much more...talkative back then than I am now lol, but the userbase felt much more alive if that makes sense. I just got Cara two days ago, and while I'm not expecting it to be like old dA, it does feel much more artist-friendly than other social media. It's actually very exciting to see my favorite artists pop up on there! I hope more artists can make the move, and that Cara gets enough support to sustain itself and grow.
Fun fact for Photoshop users. You gotta opt out of AI learning in your creative cloud user settings. The latest versions (the ones with generative fill) are set up to "learn from you". Kinda gross. I still use PS2020.
In my ravenous hatred of the machine, I have been trying different styles in my art more so now. AI art has a look. Particularly in the soft rendering. And the hands... It's real bad at hands. I've done away with my smudge tool and am letting my bush strokes be. If it continues to stay bad maybe I'll go back to paper and pens. The dark ages.
I cannot assume to know the kind of art you use Photoshop for, but if it’s an illustrative type, I’d highly recommend Krita as a free, open-source alternative program, which in its current form even allows for animation capabilities and comic book production!
It’s very impressive for what it is and offers to artists!
Photoshop still reigns supreme as a photo editing and manipulation program, and I suppose its 3D rendering capability isn’t bad either.
I tend to jump between Krita and PS CS6 often. Only gripe is Krita can open PSD file format but not vice versa! :(
Let’s rebuild what once was!
Viva la Revolution!
At the moment I'm not posting my work because I'm making a short film (Id rather keep it secret for awhile) but it feels good to see art from Artists i care about & I'm gonna donate as soon as I get paid
Happy to see such resurgence of old school community. I’m a 1997 kid myself and I still find the current stream too fast.
Definitely made a Cara account myself but not trying to jump ship so suddenly. I think, and strongly hope , that this AI fiasco would be just a temporary road block and then it'll go away. For example when cameras were first invented all portrait artists thought that their job is over and so on... it did bring some problems for a while but after that everything came back to normal one way or the other. Until the day we can understand completely and create a human out of nothing we can't make AI 's mind better than ours. It's just a good thought to have...sadly some people don't realize that. Cheers!
a photo and a painting are two different things, this is an algorithm that actually makes the painting. Some market for "man made stuff" will always be there, but as far as professional fields and careers concern it seems to be over. Concept artist, illustrator, graphic designer, comic artist, t-shirt design, advertising illustration, editorial, etc are getting fucked over hard.
No, Instagram will never listen, these huge corporations will never listen... It's better to just leave now..
@@willowthelyxra Yeah, when it comes to corporations where money is involved...they're ready to sell their own parents in order to get what they want.
@@vadimartamonovchapenster9434lol
I'm on Cara as well, started my journey there during Plein Airpril. I'm excited to network with more artists and not be bombarded with content that I don't want because a social media company wants to be the other social media that is the trend and current rage. It's just disheartening that there's the incentive like Imorten Joe from Mad Max "you use our platform therefore we own you and will steal your content for using it."
Cara name is georgerahlmeyer
AI doesn't seem to be very intelligent. It has already so much data & still can't be creative on it's own?
AI can't be creative, it's a statistical model. It's streamlined to make the randomness feel intentional.
You’re a true numbskull.
"AI" is just a marketing term for more advanced algorithms, something we already had for a while.
Investors just go "WOWIE" and clap like seals when they hear the word "AI" because we've heard it be used in Science Fiction movies so whenever you hear the word "AI" you think of very cool and advanced technology. Flying cars, laser guns, space ships!... In reality it's the same tech we had before just slightly better at doing certain calculations.
It's not a 1 to 1 creation of a mind. Not at all, it's just a fancier calculator that can now translate pixels, words and sound to numbers, it is then told what the "correct answers" are via training data based on those numbers and it works the calculation based on what worked fine before.
Objectively speaking, it cannot create. It quite literally just blends different images together into an abomination, it has no concept, inspiration nor thoughts. It's just a Photoshop Calculator.
@@pyerack This isn’t true.
Thats how generative AI works... It uses datasets to generate images. Its not actually intelligent
I will start deleting all my artwork form Instagram - mainly concept art- in a few days. Already have acc on Cara I believe more then year, but in that time didn't noticed improvements there in usability.
You and other big names with followers could propose subversive actions like: month where artist would post faces with eyes positioned incorectly - little bit lower - or too close, or mouth that are too big... things like that could ruin data for ai.
same, but the adobe (well pirating is the best as usual ig) and especially windows updates are just... atrocious
But why not continue using it and only upload art with glaze + nightshade on top? Wouldn't that help destroying the AI dataset for the future?
What kind of glaze do you mean?
@@Erinba Glaze and Nightshade are "a tool with the explicit goal of protecting human creatives against invasive uses of generative artificial intelligence or GenAI"
Just google Project Glaze for a better description than what I could offer
I’ve noticed consistently through social media and Cara, that there’s a dominant environment of artists who work in digital medium. I don’t know how involved a lot of these artists are in the fine art world, but I’d like to get to know some of those that do.
it's pretty much best you either RUclips your art, Cara is doing a good start but I won't review until I know(I have started using it), have your own website which is probably where people take you seriously. Probably best working on your art and products and marketing it like a business person other than socials is also gonna become important as time goes on. It's like starting a small business pretty much. This is going to have it's own set of problems for individuals.
Thanks again for this video sir! Brush sauce and you are doing amazing stuff as always!
A major problem I see with this is neurodivergent people or any others who may have an innately harder time with marketing socialization and the like will struggle more regardless of their artistic level
@@Amaling it was already pointless on social media due to oversaturation and how algorithms work even before AI. Any meme reposting account beats artists, Social media already devalued artist work and made them into "content creators" who have to post crappy memes daily to even get seen
This was in my recommended and thanks to your vid, I now know about Cara.
I might give it a shot once I have some art worth displaying.
Thank you for the valuable info!
Im there. It’s been great so far. I chose to support them financially because I believe i the mission. I know it’s not the critical mass spot for meeting the outside world and potential customers but that isnt mattering to me that much. I’ve had interactions with artists ive admired for a long time now and it feels really wonderful.
The only reason I don't delete IG is because there are many non-artists there and that's the place where my clients find me.
But since ArtStation sold us I was waiting for something to replace it and now Cara is doing that - it's both portfolio place and art social media - a lot of discussions between artists
Thank god I never started to post on Instagram, easier to transition or start anew. Screw them, not using Instagram anymore, or maybe I will uploading Cara processed images :)
I think the Cara situation is not only a testimony to the current state of the internet towards artists but to the current state of the internet as a whole. Unlike 10-15 years ago nowadays 4 to 5 major corporations run the majority of the traffic deciding what we see, what we can say and keeping track of every move we make. This is one of the first symtomph of a very needed decentralization process.
I think the way Meta formulated it is enough to deter many people from even trying to opt out, because they make you feel like you need to come up with some big fancy reason why. At least that was my thinking for about three days, until I finally decided to just say that if they don't opt me out I'll simply delete my account.
Two seconds later I got an auto-reply saying my request had been granted 🤣
I’ve been a professional artist/ illustrator for over 40 years. Last year I stopped posting ANY of my art online because of the theft. Now it’s going to be even worse! I watched the system take away my right to royalties-all illustration jobs became “work for hire”. AI is another step in crushing our ability to earn a living.
Ads is what makes every platform go to trash. The owners of the ads make the host site sign a legal document that binds them to adhere to the kinds of content they do and don't want. This is where all the annoying censorship, seemingly random bans and viscous althogs everyone complains about actually comes from. If the host site does not comply, they get drug to court for violation, lose the ads, and have to pay legal fees and fines. Ads are sadly NOT the answer
Find like minded brands that are pro-free speech/anti-censorship, not hard to do. Also, the other solution to this is charge subscription fees. Unfortunately, artists will then complain that they don't want to pay for it even though it's in their best interests to do... user subscription fee to save your work from being ripped off by gen AI is too expensive? If you support the message talk with your wallet. If you want free and easy well then you learn nothing is truly free when you stolen from.
Personally, I think it’s less ads and more stock investors. Public companies have the legal fiduciary responsibility to maximize investor returns, which incentivizes extremely dehumanizing and short term solution to bringing in a profit. Sustainability goes out the window. If you’re not concerned with maximizing profits, then finding just enough ad sponsors to sustain operating costs seems doable.
Been on Cara for a year. Glad to see it get the recognition it deserves but I hope people will consider supporting the small team financially.
There is no hope for art, we really should just give up.
The “right to object” link doesn’t appear on my settings.
Now I have to jump through further hoops, write a 100 word paragraph of why I object scraping and provide a screenshot of my art being used for Ai art… RIDICULOUS!!!
To top it off, Meta might reject my opting out altogether. UGH!
No doubt they will reject the 100 word paragraph written by an AI bot, as they are apparently trying to make it as difficult as possible so people just say "screw it!" and don't finish the process. Maybe not, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
@@flickwtchr even if I did wrote it on my own they can outright just say “nah objection denied”
Build a website
I pretty much stopped posting art after Instagram started curating video instead of pictures.
Trying to move to twitter but its still hard over there too.
Man, I'm old, I remember when Elfwood was around 3000 years ago. I miss the old Internet and communities like that, all this social network stuff isn't my thing really. I'll probably give Cara a shot, I like the vibe, haven't seen stuff like that in a long time.
Elfwood was wonderful until the moderators became elitists and only catered to the already-professional artists out there in the industry.
I was still (and am, currently again) an aspiring artist that tried to join Elfwood but couldn’t because of the strong barrier of needing to be an established professional prior to joining (at least this was so when I tried to join, early 2000’s).
DeviantArt was a decent successor, but has its share of issues too.
I’m still unsure on how it promotes art lol. Can’t tell if I can base my “success” on views or likes! It’s confusing for me in that regard, but I’m old school myself.
@@auribusteneolupum2977 the experience you described reminds me a lot of Epilogue, which was a platform mostly targeted for professionals (and it didn't have section for writers like Elfwood did), it went instinct once they started censoring stuff, and I remember exactly what you described, really strict moderating process every time you wanted to publish something. And I agree about DeviantArt, however I may be a wrong person to judge, since I barely get any views there, let alone likes (I'm not that much active and I publish something one in a few years, for me returning to these sites is like coming back to a crime scene).
Thank you for the great video, Tyler! As a social media hater I still have to use it but now I have an excuse to jump the ship and maybe even enjoy the social media for once.
This corporate tech madness has to stop. When are governments going to step in
I don't think its really people jumping ship, but more that there are people who are hoping to get the early adopter boost of joining a new social media site.
I would be surprised if many of the people who are joining Cara will stop posting in other platforms ( even if they don't opt out of the IG data collection )
That said its always good to see another platform appear that seems to have great potential. We just have to wait to see how they plan to make Cara sustainable since a 20k+ per month server bill is not something anyone can pay themselves for very long.
If they go with ads then they will have to do some form of data-collection since all advertising clients demand some sort of ability to accurately target users and in order to target someone you have to have some information about them.
If they go with a subscription model, they will kill the platform since most users won't pay.
If they do both then its kind of the same as every other platform and that would not really be a bad thing, but it could make it harder for them to stay alive.
100%, you hit the nail on the head and no one else wants to admit this. Also, not to be negative, but ANOTHER glaring issue is that it doesn’t matter how many artists are “jumping ship” to Cara - or any other platform for that matter - if no one else is on it.
I don’t like Instagram any more than the next person, but until another platform comes along that can support artists but ALSO be adopted by the mainstream, it won’t matter.
It's a tricky thing considering crap policy changes are sometimes requested by advertisers. "promote that or we will pull out" or "you better not be announcing that other thing, it's not on brand for us". I hope the site pulls through. It'd be nice if it sorted out the bugs too because it signed me out after the first evening of me uploading 1 image and I've been bugged out for days since xD
What the hell did we think was going to happen when everything is stored in cloud
I just tried opting out just now and the page said that meta has sent a code to my gmail and I have to enter in this code, meta has yet to send the code and it’s been 30 minutes. I do not think I’ll ever get this code.
You cant opt-out, they just make the progress is impossible to get approved,
Hopefully Facebook will end up like My Space. I am not an artist but knowing that your art is being stolen aggravates me. I don’t like AI and have no intention of using it
This should be illegal. They're stealing copyrighted materials. There was no way people would've known AI on art would exist. All artists need to get together and bring a class action lawsuit against Meta, Chat GPT, etc, etc (& Adobe if they're doing the same thing).
As someone who's been in the online artspace like yourself since about 2006, I do like the idea of it but I think the eventual follow and scraping of data will happen regardless on any mass open platforms now. It's a war that can't be won because people want to monetize the convience of AI.
Both sides eventually lose in war, I stopped posting much digital art freely online in these platforms years ago. I have no plans to return to these kind of platforms, I don't financially win for this but I've moved on I still make art and share it within small discord channels and with friends.
This last month alone I've heard personal accounts of dozens of graphic artists and designers losing there jobs. If you want to stay in a commercial space doing grunt work as an artist right now your work and livelyhood is goning to be a casulty one day in the near future.
I think a subscription model is the best way to go. Ads would be a distraction, especially if they don't have the ability to moderate them. The ideal would be for them to figure out the average yearly cost for holding users' works in a scalable way, potentially allowing the platform to be cheaper as people join. An ad-free art club and union of sorts. People searching for real human artists can offer jobs there or find a support group. I can see it and I hope the business owners can find the most elegant financial solution so as to avoid harming the degradation of the sought-after experience.
you cant even object now, because they 'review' your objection, and 99% they will reject your objection. An objection is an objection; you cant review it. How is that even allowed?
I think the only way this may stop is if game company's and media groups realize they are just creating their own competition. When people can pop out full blown movies and games eventually easily.
Cara alternatives are Artfol and Glass (for photographers). Any reviews on these?
How do we support Cara in a way that they can pay the number of engineers and mods it will take to have a smoothly functioning app?
I think I'm going to start Cara, and poison my future IG content, because my most connections with a huge part of my social group is through instagram.
Believe me your artwork sucks and so do you.
Loving Cara right now!! The experience is so refreshing.
It should be illegal for RUclips to shadow ban comments. Especially when they contain nothing offensive and you have no way to know which words cause it.
Let me tell you what will happen: once the new platform gets big enough, the owner will sell it and then it's the same old story with all big media platforms - ads, AI, subscriptions, etc, etc. They will simply change the TOS and all your work and dreams go into the toilet of AI. Enjoy while it lasts!
I've hosted my own website since
1995 (and it looks like it ;)) to post my comic art. A few years back I posted a few of my comics to deviant art to find a bigger audience. Was that a mistake? Is that website also scrapped? Was thinking about posting to fb but ive changed my mind about that, even though I opted out of their ai training thing, i simply don't trust ol Mark.
What do you do to drive traffic to your own site that be the tricky part
@@TylerEdlin84 I dont really. Im not a pro.. just a hobbyist. To be honest. I haven't done any serious work in about 3 years now. Trying to get my mojo back if u know what I mean. This a.i. crap hasn't been helping though. Like a lot of artists im feeling a bit demoralised.
Even in europe, instagram will not send OTP codes to opt out
Cara is just fun, fun to post, fun to browse and fun to interact wit others.
I love seeing ya in my FEEEED!!
cara feels slow for now. but i feel good about getting ahead of the game and getting the profile set up. it has some good features like portfolio view and categorization that I assume is linked to search results. easier to curate the varying art content you are interested in.
You may find browser faster than app until they catch up with the huge influx.
If only there were more ways for us to stay connected and share stuff without being predated by people or companies trying to commodify anything and everything, swindling people out of their privacy and intellectual property.
i doubt cara will last. i've seen plenty of these new social media platforms pass by as trends that aspire to be the new social media for artists. besides, they apperently are having an insanely hard time dealing with the expenses since the app has blown up this much. Adding on, cara is a general social media app. people keep promoting it as just for artists. this is like, disaster for any freelance artists who make money on social media. I draw book covers for authors, they are not on cara. Big ass chunk of my audience gone.
As a programmer and artist. The knowledge I have acquired about how the AI (Checkpoints, Loras, VAE, etc) work, I have come to simply understand that no matter where do you upload your art online, as long as a person can make a copy of it (not necessarily a company, platform, etc) those image database made by human beings, can be used to train these models. So really, the only way you can avoid anyone to use your original content for AI model training, is just getting out of the entire internet.
This is just a fact, because I know how these models are prepared, I see people even taking thousands of still images even from videos, then training AI models.
So yeah, the truth is, humans been doing this before AI came along, people blend in a human way everything they see, in reality those who have deep roots in art, know this, art is just inspiration of many little things we see around us, we train our brain "models" to make a unique style, but behind it all, there is a "data" we collected from many different places to come up with it all, in a conscious and subconscious way.
Take care everyone! and no matter what, just keep doing what you love, and just keep moving forward!
SeeYa!
I understand the complaints but I believe people are overreacting. This new world tech is crazy and sucks in some ways but going to this new platform probably won’t hurt Meta as much as the individual artists. Building a brand requires that we share our work in every way possible without fear and worry. If people or even Ai bots can see it they can steal it. I worry more about artists hiding their work away in fear and because of that Ai generative art will have even more visibility on the market.
It’s time for as many people as possible to boycott social media. Yes text and email only for as long as possible
You are aware that everybody can make a screenshot and feed the AI themselves. Even if an artist completely disappears from the internet, one can still visit the exhibition, take a photo, and feed it into MidJourney or whichever AI they choose. I don’t see any escape unless there are exhibitions without photography. Maybe we will find new solutions for how we present our art. The good thing is that AI can’t really paint, make sculptures or installations, or perform any kind of performance art. I made a lot of experiments with high-quality art pieces and tried to achieve a better result with AI, but that doesn’t work really because there are so many physical and real elements missing in an art piece. Experimenting with AI can give an artist very interesting new inspirations, but the execution would probably be very different from a real artist.
i did experience it before, yes because my favorite artist are jumping ship and i’m following right behind them
Silver lining is now between this, the Windows recall recording PC activity and Adobes recent sublicensing TOS changes, now the outcry over enduser exploitation (that ideally couldve started a decade earlier when these cloud centric spyware norms were being introduced) is finally gaining steam.
I get it. I just don't get what's gonna stop someone from just taking a pic of your work from their phone and putting it online via those databases. Art theft exists everywhere. Putting it out there is a risk regardless of how you do it
Social media fatigue describes me to a tee. However I was tired of drawing in the void and knew I needed a bit better reach to get more jobs coming in and also people I met at events would ask me for my socials and I wouldn't have much to show them. So, I decided to really start giving regular posting to my instagram a fair shot.... literally this April.... and now this. Back a while ago I thought that the artist focus social media might be Artstation, but that fell through as well, it seems. Idk if cara will have a similar vibe to Artstation (or a similar fate). As of right now I haven't jumped on the cara train yet, but if it proves to be a place where art directors might look I may give it a shot.
no guarantee they won't just flip it to a larger tech company once they have enough data to sell. Every startup does that eventually
Cara has a problem as a replacement for Insta in that it will only have artists on there. Unless fans, clients & buyers download it too, then its just us looking at us which is fine, but until we are all ONLY on Cara, theyll all.prefer to find us in amongst the other content they enjoy.
at some point, hopefully soon, SCOTUS will settle the issue and it will be favorable to the artists ...
i'm at the boiling point with these social platforms and text-to-image ai
The chances that this particular right wing majority on the SCOTUS will favor artists, is almost zero.