I feel like if the warhammer was used initially, we wouldn't have that element of surprise that the titans are controlled by humans. Collossal and armored feel way more organic among other titans so they don't immediately scream "intelligent human beings", as opposed to warhammer titan creating advanced man-made weapons.
Exactly! the dynamic would be completely different and i feel as if it wouldn't be as interesting to see all the plot twists since you most likely would of realized/guessed them all beforehand. Initially it would still be a cool concept but it would not be the same Thats for sure.
@@Sarah_Redfox why would titans act like humans though, human intelligence is one of a kind and expecting every other form of intelligence to behave in the same way is ignorant, that's why collosal titan appearing in shiganshina like a god to only destroy the wall was a better way to start the plot instead of dropping a human like giant titan that behaves in a planned and organized mayter
@@Sarah_Redfox Nah, a titan that can use human weapon and can even adapt and change on the fly? And one of our recruit just turn into a fking titan? = Oh shit smart titan mean human controlled. The Warhammer exist in the story that early gonna jump start Eldian understand about titan alot, and...other shifters is kinda boring after that too, just a bunch of kick punch bite vs the grand entrance of sword and shield.
The thing about this titan is that it’s so powerful, yet not as destructive as the colossal, that it was always to be kept in Marley for defense. Like in chess, you never bring the queen out too early.
I’d be incredibly interested to see more of this concept. Like, how would Lara Tybur blend in with the populace? Would she encounter the Shiganshina Trio? Would she have second thoughts about her mission? Would she be emotionally devastated by what she had done?
@@cyber151 that would be interesting, she would have to lay low for a long while tho because foreign gems too early in the show would look suspicious. She would still have to be introduced later in the show after paradis island realized there was a civilization beyond their walls.
@@txbased1752 Depends on whose hands you are putting them in. The warhammer can tunnel right under the walls deep enough and pop out the other side. Marley knew paradis well. If she was dropped off to the north east of the island, there wouldnt be titans on her way down to wall maria on that side. Tunnel in and yes lay low long enough to find somebody willing to make the exchange for coin. She could even sell them for cheap and live in a wall maria district. Cost of living their is lower since the properties arent luxurious and the houses are all jam packed next to each other so you only get enough land to own for the house itself. She could also just tunnel in and do odd jobs for money, pedaling, ahem, "deliveries" in the slums for quick coin. Honestly it was always stupid that the warriors kicked in the gates to begin with. It set them back 2 years thanks to the crisis. Then again they didn't have a titan that could bypass the walls....on the other other hand...they could have just climbed a section of wall that didnt have guards on it. Paradis only had a handful of guards for every few miles of walls.
Does anyone think the Warhammer Titan was a bit of a missed opportunity? I mean it’s one of the more stronger titans, and it fell too easily to Eren. I think it would have been better as a season-spanning villain. Also with the Tybur family being more closely intertwined with Karl Fritz, I think it would have been cool if it was a key or more closely related to the Founding Titan.
I loved it. The Tyburs kept, essentially, the strongest one to themselves so its 'missingness' is built into the story. At the stage it was shown, the fact Eren did so well against it (with some help) showed how ruthless and calculated he's become in the timeskip.
@@DilmahkanaNo yeah, I liked it too. I probably wasn’t specific in that they invaded Paradise with it in Season 4 not the early seasons. I just wished it lasted a bit longer, and your right about Eren. I’ve seen a analysis video about how much more ruthless he became, and it being one of the defining moments.
Thats the point of it falling to eren so fast, we havent seen him in several episodes and he beats the strongest titan without yelling, crying or even breaking a sweat.
I got annoyed by the way she got defeated. I get that she doesn't want to put her human body inside the nape because it's predicatble but putting herself outside of the titan body is plain stupid. The whole point of the titan body is to protect the host inside. Not to mention how easy it is to find the human body given how obvious the "cable" is. She got defeated like in 5 seconds the momment her position get discovered. Putting her human body in the heart or inside the torso area would've been a way better idea.
One thing you didn't touch on, is the fact that Hange/Survey Corp will start speculating on the existence of intelligent Titans YEARS before Eren is revealed to be a shifter due to the Warhammer creating very specific weapons. Titans could then be theorized to have some sort of actual society/hierarchy instead of just a bunch of mindless beasts. Eren's existence would then basically confirm without a doubt that the Warhammer likely contained a human within. This might result in certain plot points being sped up.
I feel like Erwin knew there was Intelligent Titans when Shiganshina fell. The attack was too coordinated to just be random & in his 10-20 Scout career they never ran across Titans like the Colossal or Armored. So it would probably more convince the rest of the military specifically Premier Zachary they had spies
@@realjohnlovehow? There were no hints towards it Erwin is intelligent but he cant speculate without evidence, hell even when they knew intelligent titans were humans they didnt know all titans were.
@finitoackermann during the capture of Annie, they explained that they had already theorized smart titans the moment Colossal burst open the wall. Eren confirmed their theory just by existing already. Thats why they planned to capture Annie from the start, because they knew some smart titan would go after Eren. They didnt know it would be Annie, but whoever it was, they intended to catch it at that first mission Eren went to
@@finitoackermann The titans had never breached the gates. It was irregular. He also always suspected humanity was still alive outside the walls. He also didn’t seem surprised Eren could turn Titan. To their perception Titans are mindless but somethings even on instinct require some level of intelligence especially how they were jumping & we know that if someone with military training or high intelligence becomes a mindless titan they became an even bigger threat: Levi’s army in the forest, Dina Fritz, the Restorationist in general, Falco, the military officers
I think it's too risky to send Warhammer Titan because it's Marley's ace card, thus losing it to the enemies would be a massive setback. Warhammer Titan drains the shifter energy quite fast (unless the shifter trained a lot), which doesn't suit in long fights. The shifter might not be able to transform several times like Eren or Pieck. WH also has limited combat range where it couldn't move around as much as others, thus WH suits better for defensive instead of offensive.
Laura would most likely feel incredible amounts of guilt for the initial attack on the walls mainly because when Williy was giving his speech those truths via the war hammer titan he was referring to where discovered my Laura with the war hammers power. She’d probably realize that this isn’t the eldians fault on the island for what happened and was strictly for the benefit of Marly and the already failing titan warfare. In the main timeline tho Laura doesn’t even seem concerned with eating eren and gaining the founder so I highly doubt she would even go along with the plan along side the Marly trio.
I mean similar to the marleyan shifters they get brainwashed or if they rebel their family and loved ones are at risk so laura wouldn't be sent unless she was fully trained
I also gotta wonder, is Laura even able to move vary far? Her real body is on the ground attached to her Titian body via cord. So how long is the cord? Realistically Laura might not be able to even break the second gate cus she can’t reach it
@@Chip_124 thinking about it more, hypothetically speaking there’s nothing stopping Laura form just grabbing her ball self and cutting a wound on her gut before shoving herself in and rehardening that wound. That would allow her to gain mobility but wouldn’t be vary practical in the heat of battle, since it would be a few minutes of paying attention to something other than her opponent and then actively wounding herself before just able to run around freely. She would definitely need Annie to hold eren back in the meantime before she do too much, and still chances are her cord thing would still be exposed at least some of it anyway.
@@Berserker3624 Can you understand you don't HAVE TO attach your body via cord? Lara can perfectly stay in the Titan nape. Hiding her body in another location was just a choice to hide from Eren, and she use a shell made of hardening to hide herself in the ground, yet she needed to remain attached to her Titan. It's not a power obligation of the War Hammer. All shifters have the nape as their standard location.
Really makes you wonder why Marley would send a bunch of kids, regardless of how strong they were, to do such an important job over the Warhammer Titan (and Anne of course). Exactly what you would assume would happen happened: there was infighting, which led to them making the wrong decisions, and they ultimately failed.
Because the Warhammer is their ultimate Trump card, to the degree its safety cannot be risked whatsoever. If you remember Laura only used the Warhammer after eren ate Willy, it was do or die so the Warhammer had no choice but to reveal itself
Because kids are easier to indoctrinate, a group of adults would most likely have used their powers to fight Marley either with the people on Paradis or started a civil war of some kind in Liberio.
Also was Laura not about the same age as Eren and the others during the liberio raid? Marley would have still been sending out a kid and then even worse one that isn't in their military.
The only thing I wonder is how old is Lara when we see her, and thus how old would she be if she was sent at the same time as Reiner and everyone else?
this is really well written but i think what it lack is the mystery which the colossal and armored has when they attacked because they don't seem human or intellegent enough but if you put the warhammer in their place and have it even use weapons like what humans use would make the audience think right away that these titans are either human or being controlled by one.
Given how close titans look to humans that would be the guess anyway, that titans at least have a relation to humans. Later we learn about abnormals so maybe the Warhammer is just that abnormal.
The most interesting thing about this what if would be the implications of the weapons + the armour. At the start of the series no one understood hardening and pure titans always dissolved into nothing just like what happened to Female, Armoured and Colossal. Maybe the survey corps would've had more time to research the weapons and could some how used them as weapons themselves if the material was introduced this early
the point of the warhammer isn’t its offense, it’s a defensive titan. very strong offensively on paper, yes. but the tether really means it’s a better shield than sword…
Solid vid I like it, like it so much i subscribed I liked how u tried and make this feel like the same unlike some what if we’re it’s just and entirely different thing I think this something u should continue cause it’s very interesting
If Lara ended up somehow becoming mother figure for Eren, Mikasa and Armin, it will be awkward. Very awkward. And when they learned the truth about her and Annie. It will be pure pain. However, Lara has value as hostage as well. Just think about it. When the peoples of Paradis learned the truth of the outside world, the animosity between Marley and the Mid-Eastern nations included, Lara Tybur will be the perfect gift from Paradis to the Beys, the Sultans or whoever happened to be in charge of the Mid-Eastern nations as a way of securing the good relations between Paradis and the Mid-Eastern nations. With such an important political hostage, Marley might be forced to give what Paradis and the Mid-Eastern nations wanted. Of course, this can happened only if the wiser and cooler heads within Paradis' government prevailed or if Lara was being motherly enough to Eren, Mikasa and Armin to the point that they don't have the guts to kill her. And why would she becomes a mother figure for them? Well, she didn't know who they are and simply attempt to blend into the Paradis' society as a widow who just adopted three orphans. As for Annie, she can played the role of being Lara's maid, her niece or a fellow orphan she just adopted. But if you decided to use the last option, it will make things between Armin and Annie awkward. Also, would you like to do a video about the Heraclius Plan of mine? i explained about it in details in the discord server and even given you the videos that are the sources of inspiration for it.
I heard someone mention that the Mid-East Allied Forces where like the Ottoman Empire, but the idea of having a nation of Republics sounds pretty cool too. Imagine if there was a Neo Byzantine Empire apart or it or even Mongolians. Though with most governments in AOT shown to be autocracies it might be far fetched for any sort of republicanism to take root. It certainty sounds fascinating in plan, and I heard in another analysis that the Mid-East Alliance was a missed opportunity for Paradis, after all they had only heard rumors about the Eldians devils and seen a few. Maybe it might change their mind if a few got on their side, or maybe they would be just as manipulative as Marley in trying to use them as living weapons.
@@silvertemplar8061 I'm glad you like my idea! Also, did you see the plan I published on discord? Also, you're correct the Marley Mid-East War was a wasted opportunity. If Paradis entered the war, it will changed the war's outcome for the better of the world.
Whilst I wouldn’t have changed the Attack on Shiganshina, I would’ve brought another shifter for travel reasons considering how dangerous getting to and from the walls is. However I guess the trade off for that is more chance to get exposed
I think it would be more interesting if the Warhammer showed up in season 3 instead of the Beast, so in episode 1 it’s still Reiner, bertholdt, and Annie, but after shit hits the fan and they report back to Marley, then the Warhammer shows up to try and take back the founder. I think Eren would have a better chance but they’d have to work out some pretty interesting strategies in order to beat her
If the Warhammer Titan was sent to Paradis the series would probably be over after episode 1. They could have easily just used hardening to block all the exits once some titans got into the walls, then bing, bang, boom, one Omnicide prevented
Realistically given the tyburs position, i don't believe the premise is feasible at all. I understand it's for the sake of the what if, but the Tyburs leave the identity of the wielder purposefully vague for protection. Any enemies of the family would immediately use that weakness once they know that member was deployed and they know that.
Ooh, if there does end up being a part 2 I've got a fun idea for the battle to retake Shiganshina! You mentioned that the Warhammer's weapons remained after she disappeared, and considering everyone was evacuating and fleeing for their lives, surely no one like Hange would have been able to take them for research. That means when Eren and the scouts finally return to Shiganshina and have to face off against Lara, Eren could pick up and use the very weapons she used to destroy his home against her! Just a fun moment and probably would make for some insane visuals!
The warhammer titan would have not been practical and most likely killed with ease by eldians.the reason is the obvious, the weakness of the user being stuck in the crystal. Reiner and berthold was their best shot due to their mobility to dismount and hide asap. Also zeke intelligence was clutch in the invasion of paradis
I feel as though you’re underselling Carla a bit here vin the guidebook, she’s given a strength of will score of 8/10. Not to mention, this is the same woman who was willing to let herself get eaten alive in order to save her children. I think it’s likely Carla escapes with Eren, Mikasa and Hannes, as a result, I think Grisha would give her the Attack Titan.
The Warhammer titan is a bit overrated it's ability is strong but did you see how Lara could only transform once and then she was waiting to be eaten after that. And the same with the attack titan it has no ability (future memories useless in a fight) so it is just a normal titan with a jacked body.
I wish we saw more of the warhammer. We saw 8 of the 9 throughout s1 & 3 & for it to be shown once & eren useing its powers twice was just underwhelming, in my opinion.
It would play out much the same in which Eren and co would be traumatized that Laura is a titan, but it would be different in the idea that the Warhammer would dominate pre time skip eren.
The war hammer could simply just make its way to the reiss family, and eat the founder and get some royal blood to come with her by force... Then return to Marley like nothing took place
I enjoyed the video, but the "s" is silent in both "Paradis" (pair-uh-DEE) and "debris" (duh-BREE). Those are French-origin words in English, so the pronunciation gets a bit funky. Even worse, there are some British variations of "debris" that pronounce it completely differently (DEH-briss).
Eren would be fine he lives on Paradis not Pair-uh-diss. (lol /j) In all seriousness though, if they sent the Warhammer Titan in my opinion they would have succeeded in killing the Eldians of Paradis, but wouldn't have succeeded in finding and capturing the Coordinate. I feel like a Tibur wouldn't be so quick to want to go home as the Reiner and Burrito was, and it wouldn't become apparent that Eren had it until Eren discovered it himself, which would've been harder for him to discover. I feel like the Warhammer wouldn't have waited for a responce from the Founder, but would've just simply targeted the kings as they are supposed to be the only ones able to control it, and I don't think she'd be as willing as Reiner and Burrito to wait to get the plan done.
so id assume eren would still gain the coordinate as the day after shiganshina he would still get it, but i wouldnt assume the Warhammer would let him live long enough to discover it himself.
Plssss make a WHAT IF..... Eren eat the Jaw Titan before, or after Reiner appears..... That would change the whole ending! And to this day it's the thing I understand the least, as it would have taken just seconds to eat the Jaw Titan
I don’t care anymore, I’m commenting. I love this guy’s videos, do not get me wrong. The one gripe I have is with the pronunciation of Paradis. I grew up learning French I know that you don’t say pear ah dis, it’s more pronounced parody or Pah Rha Dee. Meaning Paradise. Before I started watching these videos I always read it like I read French, so when I finished the manga and started watching the videos it came as a shock. Not in the sense of how does he not know, but that I never read it like that before and it’s just an agitation. Nothing against anyone but myself for having this stupid behaviour. Yes youtube whatever it doesn’t matter blah blah blah there’s the comment lol.
Why exactly would the warhammer titan mindlessly attack civilians and lead pure titans into the city? Her goal is not to wipe out the people of paradise, but to get the founder back, so I feel like it's a bad idea to make her presence known. Why not just dig the tunnel and try to infiltrate the paradise eldians?
I dont think war hammer titans can move that far, as we all fans are comparing it to charger wires, it has its length limit and can’t move high distance in its titan form, unless im missing something i dont even think it can travel from one side of the wall to the other
Before watching.. paradis would have gotten demolished. The WH's uniqueness in not having to stay in the nape, and conjure up any weapon would be too much for a first appearance.
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I feel like if the warhammer was used initially, we wouldn't have that element of surprise that the titans are controlled by humans. Collossal and armored feel way more organic among other titans so they don't immediately scream "intelligent human beings", as opposed to warhammer titan creating advanced man-made weapons.
Exactly! the dynamic would be completely different and i feel as if it wouldn't be as interesting to see all the plot twists since you most likely would of realized/guessed them all beforehand. Initially it would still be a cool concept but it would not be the same Thats for sure.
i think most people would just assume that there is a sentient species of titans somewhere out there, not immediatelly conclude that they are human
@@Sarah_Redfox why would titans act like humans though, human intelligence is one of a kind and expecting every other form of intelligence to behave in the same way is ignorant, that's why collosal titan appearing in shiganshina like a god to only destroy the wall was a better way to start the plot instead of dropping a human like giant titan that behaves in a planned and organized mayter
People forget Marley had no idea what would happen if they invaded. Only Zeke knew about the vow and didn't tell anyone
@@Sarah_Redfox Nah, a titan that can use human weapon and can even adapt and change on the fly? And one of our recruit just turn into a fking titan? = Oh shit smart titan mean human controlled. The Warhammer exist in the story that early gonna jump start Eldian understand about titan alot, and...other shifters is kinda boring after that too, just a bunch of kick punch bite vs the grand entrance of sword and shield.
The thing about this titan is that it’s so powerful, yet not as destructive as the colossal, that it was always to be kept in Marley for defense. Like in chess, you never bring the queen out too early.
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Yes it was 😂
Why does he hate Berthold that much? 🤣🤣
I had to rewind it 4 times! I was like….WHO?!?
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I’d be incredibly interested to see more of this concept. Like, how would Lara Tybur blend in with the populace? Would she encounter the Shiganshina Trio? Would she have second thoughts about her mission? Would she be emotionally devastated by what she had done?
Id guess something similar to Annie minus the crystalized body
@@txbased1752 Lara is rich. She could bring over expensive gems to exchange for currency and set up shop in Sina if she wished.
@@cyber151 that would be interesting, she would have to lay low for a long while tho because foreign gems too early in the show would look suspicious. She would still have to be introduced later in the show after paradis island realized there was a civilization beyond their walls.
@@txbased1752 Depends on whose hands you are putting them in. The warhammer can tunnel right under the walls deep enough and pop out the other side.
Marley knew paradis well. If she was dropped off to the north east of the island, there wouldnt be titans on her way down to wall maria on that side.
Tunnel in and yes lay low long enough to find somebody willing to make the exchange for coin. She could even sell them for cheap and live in a wall maria district. Cost of living their is lower since the properties arent luxurious and the houses are all jam packed next to each other so you only get enough land to own for the house itself.
She could also just tunnel in and do odd jobs for money, pedaling, ahem, "deliveries" in the slums for quick coin. Honestly it was always stupid that the warriors kicked in the gates to begin with. It set them back 2 years thanks to the crisis. Then again they didn't have a titan that could bypass the walls....on the other other hand...they could have just climbed a section of wall that didnt have guards on it. Paradis only had a handful of guards for every few miles of walls.
Does anyone think the Warhammer Titan was a bit of a missed opportunity? I mean it’s one of the more stronger titans, and it fell too easily to Eren. I think it would have been better as a season-spanning villain. Also with the Tybur family being more closely intertwined with Karl Fritz, I think it would have been cool if it was a key or more closely related to the Founding Titan.
I loved it. The Tyburs kept, essentially, the strongest one to themselves so its 'missingness' is built into the story. At the stage it was shown, the fact Eren did so well against it (with some help) showed how ruthless and calculated he's become in the timeskip.
@@DilmahkanaNo yeah, I liked it too. I probably wasn’t specific in that they invaded Paradise with it in Season 4 not the early seasons. I just wished it lasted a bit longer, and your right about Eren. I’ve seen a analysis video about how much more ruthless he became, and it being one of the defining moments.
It was her first time using the titan, compared to eren, shes outskilled
Thats the point of it falling to eren so fast, we havent seen him in several episodes and he beats the strongest titan without yelling, crying or even breaking a sweat.
I got annoyed by the way she got defeated. I get that she doesn't want to put her human body inside the nape because it's predicatble but putting herself outside of the titan body is plain stupid. The whole point of the titan body is to protect the host inside. Not to mention how easy it is to find the human body given how obvious the "cable" is. She got defeated like in 5 seconds the momment her position get discovered. Putting her human body in the heart or inside the torso area would've been a way better idea.
One thing you didn't touch on, is the fact that Hange/Survey Corp will start speculating on the existence of intelligent Titans YEARS before Eren is revealed to be a shifter due to the Warhammer creating very specific weapons. Titans could then be theorized to have some sort of actual society/hierarchy instead of just a bunch of mindless beasts. Eren's existence would then basically confirm without a doubt that the Warhammer likely contained a human within. This might result in certain plot points being sped up.
I feel like Erwin knew there was Intelligent Titans when Shiganshina fell. The attack was too coordinated to just be random & in his 10-20 Scout career they never ran across Titans like the Colossal or Armored.
So it would probably more convince the rest of the military specifically Premier Zachary they had spies
@@realjohnlovehow? There were no hints towards it Erwin is intelligent but he cant speculate without evidence, hell even when they knew intelligent titans were humans they didnt know all titans were.
@finitoackermann during the capture of Annie, they explained that they had already theorized smart titans the moment Colossal burst open the wall. Eren confirmed their theory just by existing already. Thats why they planned to capture Annie from the start, because they knew some smart titan would go after Eren. They didnt know it would be Annie, but whoever it was, they intended to catch it at that first mission Eren went to
@@finitoackermann The titans had never breached the gates. It was irregular. He also always suspected humanity was still alive outside the walls. He also didn’t seem surprised Eren could turn Titan.
To their perception Titans are mindless but somethings even on instinct require some level of intelligence especially how they were jumping & we know that if someone with military training or high intelligence becomes a mindless titan they became an even bigger threat: Levi’s army in the forest, Dina Fritz, the Restorationist in general, Falco, the military officers
I think it's too risky to send Warhammer Titan because it's Marley's ace card, thus losing it to the enemies would be a massive setback.
Warhammer Titan drains the shifter energy quite fast (unless the shifter trained a lot), which doesn't suit in long fights. The shifter might not be able to transform several times like Eren or Pieck. WH also has limited combat range where it couldn't move around as much as others, thus WH suits better for defensive instead of offensive.
its called a what if for a reason
Laura would most likely feel incredible amounts of guilt for the initial attack on the walls mainly because when Williy was giving his speech those truths via the war hammer titan he was referring to where discovered my Laura with the war hammers power. She’d probably realize that this isn’t the eldians fault on the island for what happened and was strictly for the benefit of Marly and the already failing titan warfare. In the main timeline tho Laura doesn’t even seem concerned with eating eren and gaining the founder so I highly doubt she would even go along with the plan along side the Marly trio.
I mean similar to the marleyan shifters they get brainwashed or if they rebel their family and loved ones are at risk so laura wouldn't be sent unless she was fully trained
I also gotta wonder, is Laura even able to move vary far? Her real body is on the ground attached to her Titian body via cord. So how long is the cord? Realistically Laura might not be able to even break the second gate cus she can’t reach it
@@Berserker3624 thats a really good point
@@Chip_124 thinking about it more, hypothetically speaking there’s nothing stopping Laura form just grabbing her ball self and cutting a wound on her gut before shoving herself in and rehardening that wound. That would allow her to gain mobility but wouldn’t be vary practical in the heat of battle, since it would be a few minutes of paying attention to something other than her opponent and then actively wounding herself before just able to run around freely. She would definitely need Annie to hold eren back in the meantime before she do too much, and still chances are her cord thing would still be exposed at least some of it anyway.
@@Berserker3624 Can you understand you don't HAVE TO attach your body via cord? Lara can perfectly stay in the Titan nape. Hiding her body in another location was just a choice to hide from Eren, and she use a shell made of hardening to hide herself in the ground, yet she needed to remain attached to her Titan. It's not a power obligation of the War Hammer. All shifters have the nape as their standard location.
Nice what if stories. Can't wait to see what awesome ideas you come up with
God damn Marley's idea to send child soldiers to carry out what shouldve been an espionage mission thay wouldve taken years is a really big plot hole
Brilliant video! Loved it
Really makes you wonder why Marley would send a bunch of kids, regardless of how strong they were, to do such an important job over the Warhammer Titan (and Anne of course). Exactly what you would assume would happen happened: there was infighting, which led to them making the wrong decisions, and they ultimately failed.
Because the Warhammer is their ultimate Trump card, to the degree its safety cannot be risked whatsoever. If you remember Laura only used the Warhammer after eren ate Willy, it was do or die so the Warhammer had no choice but to reveal itself
Because kids are easier to indoctrinate, a group of adults would most likely have used their powers to fight Marley either with the people on Paradis or started a civil war of some kind in Liberio.
The Warhammer is not as experienced in combat. Tis what it tis.
It’s because of the 13 year limit for titans, so they want them to be in the best physical condition for those 14 years and not old
Also was Laura not about the same age as Eren and the others during the liberio raid? Marley would have still been sending out a kid and then even worse one that isn't in their military.
Do more of these! Very much like the thought process on this, very fun speculation
The way the attack Titan can access future memories pretty much means Eren ends up in a similar path.
The only thing I wonder is how old is Lara when we see her, and thus how old would she be if she was sent at the same time as Reiner and everyone else?
Lara was 19 during the Liberio fight and had the Warhammer Titan for 5 years
@@My_Lacrimosado we know for a fact she already had the Titan for 5 years?
I think she was a little younger than Reiner and the other warriors
this is really well written but i think what it lack is the mystery which the colossal and armored has when they attacked because they don't seem human or intellegent enough but if you put the warhammer in their place and have it even use weapons like what humans use would make the audience think right away that these titans are either human or being controlled by one.
Facts
Given how close titans look to humans that would be the guess anyway, that titans at least have a relation to humans. Later we learn about abnormals so maybe the Warhammer is just that abnormal.
Excellent job!... yes, I also want to see more scenes of the Warhammer Titan
The most interesting thing about this what if would be the implications of the weapons + the armour. At the start of the series no one understood hardening and pure titans always dissolved into nothing just like what happened to Female, Armoured and Colossal. Maybe the survey corps would've had more time to research the weapons and could some how used them as weapons themselves if the material was introduced this early
the point of the warhammer isn’t its offense, it’s a defensive titan. very strong offensively on paper, yes. but the tether really means it’s a better shield than sword…
Solid vid I like it, like it so much i subscribed
I liked how u tried and make this feel like the same unlike some what if we’re it’s just and entirely different thing
I think this something u should continue cause it’s very interesting
If Lara ended up somehow becoming mother figure for Eren, Mikasa and Armin, it will be awkward. Very awkward. And when they learned the truth about her and Annie. It will be pure pain. However, Lara has value as hostage as well. Just think about it. When the peoples of Paradis learned the truth of the outside world, the animosity between Marley and the Mid-Eastern nations included, Lara Tybur will be the perfect gift from Paradis to the Beys, the Sultans or whoever happened to be in charge of the Mid-Eastern nations as a way of securing the good relations between Paradis and the Mid-Eastern nations. With such an important political hostage, Marley might be forced to give what Paradis and the Mid-Eastern nations wanted. Of course, this can happened only if the wiser and cooler heads within Paradis' government prevailed or if Lara was being motherly enough to Eren, Mikasa and Armin to the point that they don't have the guts to kill her. And why would she becomes a mother figure for them? Well, she didn't know who they are and simply attempt to blend into the Paradis' society as a widow who just adopted three orphans. As for Annie, she can played the role of being Lara's maid, her niece or a fellow orphan she just adopted. But if you decided to use the last option, it will make things between Armin and Annie awkward.
Also, would you like to do a video about the Heraclius Plan of mine? i explained about it in details in the discord server and even given you the videos that are the sources of inspiration for it.
I heard someone mention that the Mid-East Allied Forces where like the Ottoman Empire, but the idea of having a nation of Republics sounds pretty cool too. Imagine if there was a Neo Byzantine Empire apart or it or even Mongolians. Though with most governments in AOT shown to be autocracies it might be far fetched for any sort of republicanism to take root. It certainty sounds fascinating in plan, and I heard in another analysis that the Mid-East Alliance was a missed opportunity for Paradis, after all they had only heard rumors about the Eldians devils and seen a few. Maybe it might change their mind if a few got on their side, or maybe they would be just as manipulative as Marley in trying to use them as living weapons.
@@silvertemplar8061 I'm glad you like my idea! Also, did you see the plan I published on discord?
Also, you're correct the Marley Mid-East War was a wasted opportunity. If Paradis entered the war, it will changed the war's outcome for the better of the world.
Whilst I wouldn’t have changed the Attack on Shiganshina, I would’ve brought another shifter for travel reasons considering how dangerous getting to and from the walls is. However I guess the trade off for that is more chance to get exposed
Im not asking you to make part 2, i demand it!
I think it would be more interesting if the Warhammer showed up in season 3 instead of the Beast, so in episode 1 it’s still Reiner, bertholdt, and Annie, but after shit hits the fan and they report back to Marley, then the Warhammer shows up to try and take back the founder. I think Eren would have a better chance but they’d have to work out some pretty interesting strategies in order to beat her
I was wondering why I was suddenly thinking of final fantasy while watching this. Mans put in a sneaky piano rendition of answers.
Will like to watch What if Berthold told Annie how he feels
Yo do more of these please bro this was heat
You did a good job on this video 👍
Its entirely possible that Paradis would have called the Warhammer Titan the Armored Titan, or the Battle Titan.
I really love this what if I can’t wait to see part 2 thanks for something really enjoyable ❤
9:59 İn this what if. Return to Shiganshina arc, Eren could use those hardened weapons against Reiner right?
i had this running in the background while i was drawing and i didnt even notice
Yes please part 2.😊
If the Warhammer Titan was sent to Paradis the series would probably be over after episode 1. They could have easily just used hardening to block all the exits once some titans got into the walls, then bing, bang, boom, one Omnicide prevented
Realistically given the tyburs position, i don't believe the premise is feasible at all. I understand it's for the sake of the what if, but the Tyburs leave the identity of the wielder purposefully vague for protection. Any enemies of the family would immediately use that weakness once they know that member was deployed and they know that.
Amazing with the ort theme in the beginning. ❤️
was not expecting FFXIV "Answers" to start playing lol
Ooh, if there does end up being a part 2 I've got a fun idea for the battle to retake Shiganshina! You mentioned that the Warhammer's weapons remained after she disappeared, and considering everyone was evacuating and fleeing for their lives, surely no one like Hange would have been able to take them for research. That means when Eren and the scouts finally return to Shiganshina and have to face off against Lara, Eren could pick up and use the very weapons she used to destroy his home against her! Just a fun moment and probably would make for some insane visuals!
4:42 wasnt there a story about a miner that wanted to go under the wall but couldnt
The warhammer titan would have not been practical and most likely killed with ease by eldians.the reason is the obvious, the weakness of the user being stuck in the crystal. Reiner and berthold was their best shot due to their mobility to dismount and hide asap. Also zeke intelligence was clutch in the invasion of paradis
Considering 4 other Titans went with her and if you add Zeke there isn’t much Paradise could do if they all attacked at once.
Please do a part 2 🙏
i feel like AOT would only be 2 episodes if this was real
thisman did bertholth dirty 💀
Peick should have been picked for this mission as well
This video could’ve been 1min. War hammer would’ve leveled paradis island. AOT - 3 episodes tops
RIP Pieck being left behind
DEAR GOD ITS PRONOUNCED PAIR-AH-DEE
Love how you used one of the FFXIV songs for this video
I feel as though you’re underselling Carla a bit here vin the guidebook, she’s given a strength of will score of 8/10. Not to mention, this is the same woman who was willing to let herself get eaten alive in order to save her children. I think it’s likely Carla escapes with Eren, Mikasa and Hannes, as a result, I think Grisha would give her the Attack Titan.
The Warhammer titan is a bit overrated it's ability is strong but did you see how Lara could only transform once and then she was waiting to be eaten after that.
And the same with the attack titan it has no ability (future memories useless in a fight) so it is just a normal titan with a jacked body.
This titan could have been worth a whole season...
I’m assuming Willy’s sister only recently possessed the War Hammer. I doubt she got it the same time as Reiner & Annie
I wish we saw more of the warhammer.
We saw 8 of the 9 throughout s1 & 3 & for it to be shown once & eren useing its powers twice was just underwhelming, in my opinion.
It would play out much the same in which Eren and co would be traumatized that Laura is a titan, but it would be different in the idea that the Warhammer would dominate pre time skip eren.
The war hammer could simply just make its way to the reiss family, and eat the founder and get some royal blood to come with her by force... Then return to Marley like nothing took place
But does this put into consideration when lara becomes the warhammer titan? She only has 13 years to work with
Am i hearing ffviii’s ultimicia’s final stage theme right after the silent hill theme?
5:53 Kingdom Hearts Mentioned
Good theory
I hate that isayama forgot that the warhammer titan can be isconnected from the nape
loved the silent hill music
Didn’t think the war harmer titan would go for the over kill
Good luck to Erwin identifying the shifters now
Homie with the Nier automata ost
Here's a what if for ya: what if Diana was saved instead of Grisha? Or what if she ate Bertholdt instead of Carla? Maybe both?
I'd have wait for the second or third season, and introduce it within the walls similar to the beast titan.
I enjoyed the video, but the "s" is silent in both "Paradis" (pair-uh-DEE) and "debris" (duh-BREE). Those are French-origin words in English, so the pronunciation gets a bit funky. Even worse, there are some British variations of "debris" that pronounce it completely differently (DEH-briss).
What’s the name of melody that plays at 4:00 Anyone knows??
Silent Hill 2 - Promise (Reprise)
this was dope
Eren would be fine he lives on Paradis not Pair-uh-diss. (lol /j)
In all seriousness though, if they sent the Warhammer Titan in my opinion they would have succeeded in killing the Eldians of Paradis, but wouldn't have succeeded in finding and capturing the Coordinate. I feel like a Tibur wouldn't be so quick to want to go home as the Reiner and Burrito was, and it wouldn't become apparent that Eren had it until Eren discovered it himself, which would've been harder for him to discover. I feel like the Warhammer wouldn't have waited for a responce from the Founder, but would've just simply targeted the kings as they are supposed to be the only ones able to control it, and I don't think she'd be as willing as Reiner and Burrito to wait to get the plan done.
so id assume eren would still gain the coordinate as the day after shiganshina he would still get it, but i wouldnt assume the Warhammer would let him live long enough to discover it himself.
Here is another idea for a what if.
What if the 7 homunculus from Fullmetal Alchemist landed in Attack on Titan?
They’d impossible for the Titans to kill & for the main cast. Maybe the Rumbling could kill them because fire is a huge weakness but huge maybe
barculafocus might aswell make it berutoto:)
im pretty sure marcel wouldve survived if tyber was there
Plssss make a WHAT IF.....
Eren eat the Jaw Titan before, or after Reiner appears.....
That would change the whole ending!
And to this day it's the thing I understand the least, as it would have taken just seconds to eat the Jaw Titan
Paradis was lucky that warhamer didnt come 😂
This guy uses the song from Silent Hill 1 st movie
3:03 BRO
now this is good
Yo make part 2
I don’t care anymore, I’m commenting. I love this guy’s videos, do not get me wrong. The one gripe I have is with the pronunciation of Paradis. I grew up learning French I know that you don’t say pear ah dis, it’s more pronounced parody or Pah Rha Dee. Meaning Paradise. Before I started watching these videos I always read it like I read French, so when I finished the manga and started watching the videos it came as a shock. Not in the sense of how does he not know, but that I never read it like that before and it’s just an agitation. Nothing against anyone but myself for having this stupid behaviour. Yes youtube whatever it doesn’t matter blah blah blah there’s the comment lol.
I can see Eren's attack titan using the armored titans weapons it left before escaping
Can we get the next episode
Why exactly would the warhammer titan mindlessly attack civilians and lead pure titans into the city? Her goal is not to wipe out the people of paradise, but to get the founder back, so I feel like it's a bad idea to make her presence known. Why not just dig the tunnel and try to infiltrate the paradise eldians?
I dont think war hammer titans can move that far, as we all fans are comparing it to charger wires, it has its length limit and can’t move high distance in its titan form, unless im missing something i dont even think it can travel from one side of the wall to the other
This What If destroys allat of Plot tbh.
brooooo like i also think that warhammer is very underrated titan
Wheres part 2 at lil bro
Before watching.. paradis would have gotten demolished. The WH's uniqueness in not having to stay in the nape, and conjure up any weapon would be too much for a first appearance.
what if Ervin got the colossal
i like the thougth of eren using the weapons that the warhammer left
(Time to joke about Warhammer Titans)
Ain't no chance Paradise could survive against the Collegia Titanica.
Need and part two and three
What happend if warhammer titan atacks Paradise?
Awnser: GG
Today's episode brought to you by- the original ff7 ost
Where part two
I don't know about this, the warhammmer was not experienced at combat so that's a negativ but the abilities them self are good
Bro the war hammer Titan would be actually broken if it had modern warfare war hammer Titan use Glock summons Glock it’s over
What if Eren wasn’t shot by gabi when becoming the founding Titian. Or the classic what if Erwin became the colossal titan
nothing would change
plss part 2