It's very important that we are educated about infertility and not be swayed by our emotions. My husband and I started trying 2013 when I was 30. We started IVF treatment in 2015 after 3 rounds of IVF, one round didn't take, the second round I went into preterm labor and delivered at 6 months pregnant, my son Kj died 7 days after he was born in July 2016. The third round my son Kai was born this May. We still have one embryo in the freezer. Sistas act fast. Love this interview.
This is an interesting subject. I was thinking it's the food and water. Think about it. We live in a country with way more processed food (which I confess I eat too much of) and water filled with lead (government's fault). A lot of what's going into our bodies is not healthy, so I'm sure that has something to do with it - not to sound crazy. I wasn't too concerned about age. As we evolve socially and have kids at older ages, so does medical tech - which could compensate for the societal change... But now I'm a tad bit scared. I'm not ready to have kids. I'm only 18. But if what this doctor is saying is true, then I don't have an eternity to wait.
Lex Yes, but I'm primarily concerned about African-American women like myself atm, especially when we look at how many black women live in impoverished areas - food desserts, where they are almost always exposed to unhealthy, processed materials to eat.
You should not be fearful of anything and you are quite young also...you made great points about the food supply--I actually agree with your point in addition to the social challenges...
The black community does not approach the medical community with a healthy mindset. Healthcare disparity is very real and deadly for black women. The fertility cycle starts well before a girls first menstrual cycle. Early intervention and prevention needs to a two part action: black women need to feel comfortable talking about their bodies and physicians need to learn what problems are specific to black women. Good video
When you guys says black women, are you referring to black american women? I was watching a documentary on black American infertility and it says statistically it's mostly amongst black Americans because Caribbean black women had babies even after 50 with no problems.all my friends has their first child after 40 no problem. I think it's the foods in America that trigger this.
It's about catering to your patients. We need healthcare in the here and now not in some unknown amount of time from an independent system that we can't even fully imagine. We buy in to the current system everyday so yes we are owed better care.
tweety's life I think so. I agree it is the food. We're subject to just about every negative aspect of capitalism. My mom had my brother at 45 just fine.
We need to realize that for black women finding a man (of any race but especially black men) is hard if he’s not already married, *doesn’t* have a ‘preference for black women’, or you’d have to be okay with a sub bar man just to say you ‘got’ one. When you’re out here trying to make a better future for yourself finding a man that can contribute to this is hard. Plus with the economy and fear of sending kids into debt before they even know what the word debt means is scary.
I'm so glad you're covering this. I am 41 and trying to conceive my first child and my Fallopian tubes are occluded. I want to be a mom so badly but can't afford IVF so I may never be a mom. My husband has 3 kids that he calls 'our kids' but it's not the same at all.
I've been telling people this information for YEARS, but people often don't want to hear it. They really believe that just because some celebrity had a kid at 45, they will be able to as well. Very sad for those who want to have kids and find out too late that their window of opportunity may have passed them by. Also, women's reproductive health is something that is grossly under-taught, at ever level of the education process. We need to make reproductive health a cornerstone of education not an elective.
What a way to depress the fuck out of somebody and make them feel hopeless. Society is set up so that those of us without resources don't have access to family planning, which means that you have a permanent underclass of people who are poor and under educated. Meanwhile, those of us who are pursuing education and careers in hopes of financially stability to support a family are not a the prime age of conception. I don't hear of any new, ground-breaking research in fertility, but I'm hearing so much about erectile dysfunction and penile implants. It is so fucking hard to be a woman. Harder to be a black woman. Signed, single, never been married, no children, degreed professional at 39. Now, let me go home and cry.
Ladies as someone who's been avidly following fertility since 2007 let me say please be very proactive. There are very lot of things that you can do on your own. I suggest by starting at age 21(I didn't start until 34). I would have loved to have known my hormone baseline levels in my 20s. Every woman knows what her hormone levels are FSH, E2, LH and AHM. If your medical doctor is unwilling to get give you those tests, you can get them on your own they're relatively inexpensive.
@@woldegebrielsara The tests FSH and E2 are different hormone measurements of estrogen that test how hard your body is working to “produce” an egg each month (provide you are have normal monthly cycles). Normal levels for FSH fall between levels 4-10. Levels over 10 could be indications of a fertility problem. Normal levels for E2 or under 80, however, levels under 75 are optimal. It is important to test FSH and E2 together for you could have a FSH reading of 7 which looks good BUT your associated E2 reading for the cycle is 121 (potentially indicating there is problem). Note: For the most accurate assessments of your fertility health it is important to have your tests (which are blood tests) done no later than the 3rd day of your normal NON MEDICATED menstrual cycle. If you a good relationship with your Dr., try to get these test done as part of your overall women’s wellness check. If your insurance covers these tests (check before hand), try to get them all done. If your medical doctor is unwilling to give you those tests or refer you to get the tests [you may want to concerned changing doctors. You can get tests test done on your own via online referrals to labs; they're relatively inexpensive. AGAIN: FSH, E2, LH testing is most accurate taken (no later than the 3rd day of your cycle). These three tests help determine how balanced and in alignment your hormones are during your cycle. AMH is another hormone level that is used to measure the ovarian reserve (i.e., your measurable storage of eggs). AMH (may be taken any day of your cycle). It’s great to have a baseline (i.e., reference point) from your healthiest time. Since youth is on your side, the thought is your body and eggs are in their best state; provided you are not overweight, you are having normal cycles and ARE eating moderately healthy meals and living a moderate healthy lifestyle. Please do not get overwhelmed, once you get it, it is actually pretty cool info to know and easy to understand your fertility. I am happy to walk you through things, for most women know very little about their fertility when there younger other than “I don’t want to get pregnant,” and that not a healthy relationship to have with your body. I’m happy to see you ladies having these discussions, kudos. I am happy to continue the conversation directly, if needed. I will send you some healthful reference links, and I’m happy to explain what I can.
@@odetochef Thank you much. The information is a bit overwhelming but I am very interested and dying to learn. I would love to continue the conversation directly as I have several questions. Links would be helpful as well. Maybe we can exchange emails?
Momma Beekay They’re talking about Black women who are in the West. African women start having babies and families much younger- when they are at peak fertility. Black American women wait longer so they can get stability. So by the time they start trying to conceive, they lose fertility and have issues. It’s mostly a timing issue, not a fertility issue.
Its a hard place to be I have a few single friends who are trying to do the right thing by not having kids without marriage but they tend to get a lot of push back from men who oppose marriage and monogamy. Then we get accused of being picky at 30. Its like black women are fun to sex up and leave but not for Wifey. As soon as we set standards now we asking for too much.
The women in my family have repeatedly had oops babies after 38.....i mean aunts cousins etc.....so someone please explain to me whats going on in my family. Lol
I was diagnosed infertile at 19, told I was never gonna have kids, never had a regular period, pretty much checked off all the symptoms of pcos BUT last 2 month's we celebrated my daughters first birthday conceived naturally with herbs remedies
Margaret Sanger is dead but family is supposed to b alive. Poverty is a point I mean the point. Black mothers and black children r dieing in U.S. WAY more . The con to have kids just keep u poor aren't black WOMEN poor enough and suffering enough. No body is talking about black WOMEN being so poor welfare is poverty and fatherless households is also poverty. This helps these death rate but not just that. Black WOMEN r relaying on everybody but the actual man that got them pregnant.
No that's not it those women weren't taking birth control since they were young teens, us women nowadays started having sex as teens a lot of us, we start taking birth control as teens and by the time we start trying to get pregnant we have so much of that stuff backed up in our system it becomes more difficult.
Sorry but I don't believe age is the primary factor for infertility for black women under 35. What's missing from this discussion? It sounds like more options to get pregnant is the discussion instead of what the factors preventing a natural pregnancy in otherwisw heathly women.
Thats because you can think for yourself..really listen to what she saying .this lady is white..talkung about black women but say she had a baby at 32 but didnt affect her..this is bs
It’s interesting that up until the modern era women’s fertility cut off was a blessing. Before birth control, a woman would just keep getting pregnant until her fertility declined. Imagine having to deal with that into your 40’s and 50’s. Yikes
If you try to have a baby YOUNG, then you are more fertile. But American women (black and white) wait longer to get stability first, so children come later. African women start motherhood much younger. That explains their fertility statistics.
Food alone won't cure or even treat infertility all by itself, but a healthy diet does help alleviate symptoms of conditions like inflammation and insulin resistance, which are only two of several factors that contribute to infertility. People eat what they can afford. If you live in a food desert where convenience stores and fast food chains abound... If you live in an apartment with 2-3 kids on a single mother's income... If there are no Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, or Sprouts in your community -even if there were, you couldn't afford to shop there weekly... If there are no community gardens to buy affordable, fresh foods, what would you eat? Just last month, an order was made that SNAP recipients cannot purchase fresh fruits and vegetables at local farmer's markets.
Happy Life evidentally you aren't black, and you definitely don't live in the South, because beans, sweet potatoes, greens, corn, broccoli, tomatoes and green beans are STAPLES. Greens used to be 49 cents a bunch until white people declared them a superfood. Now the same bunch is $1.50 - and smaller! While you're talking about frozen foods, let's talk about the fact that ConAgra is about to take over the frozen food industry... So what good is it to eat vegetables if they are laden with chemicals? Healthy is not affordable.
Okay I'm 39 with one child I had at 18 she's now 21. I been practicing safe sex and learned it was hard being a single mom so I waited. Now I'm thinking I might want another kid she's off to college and I'm missing being a hands on mom.
Listen to the full episode here: www.patreon.com/posts/podcast-what-20114159
It's very important that we are educated about infertility and not be swayed by our emotions. My husband and I started trying 2013 when I was 30. We started IVF treatment in 2015 after 3 rounds of IVF, one round didn't take, the second round I went into preterm labor and delivered at 6 months pregnant, my son Kj died 7 days after he was born in July 2016. The third round my son Kai was born this May. We still have one embryo in the freezer. Sistas act fast. Love this interview.
This is an interesting subject. I was thinking it's the food and water. Think about it. We live in a country with way more processed food (which I confess I eat too much of) and water filled with lead (government's fault). A lot of what's going into our bodies is not healthy, so I'm sure that has something to do with it - not to sound crazy.
I wasn't too concerned about age. As we evolve socially and have kids at older ages, so does medical tech - which could compensate for the societal change...
But now I'm a tad bit scared. I'm not ready to have kids. I'm only 18. But if what this doctor is saying is true, then I don't have an eternity to wait.
Logan Cooper i feel you but don't u think it would effect every women? Not just black women?
Lex Yes, but I'm primarily concerned about African-American women like myself atm, especially when we look at how many black women live in impoverished areas - food desserts, where they are almost always exposed to unhealthy, processed materials to eat.
You should not be fearful of anything and you are quite young also...you made great points about the food supply--I actually agree with your point in addition to the social challenges...
The black community does not approach the medical community with a healthy mindset. Healthcare disparity is very real and deadly for black women. The fertility cycle starts well before a girls first menstrual cycle. Early intervention and prevention needs to a two part action: black women need to feel comfortable talking about their bodies and physicians need to learn what problems are specific to black women.
Good video
Physicians also need to listen and care what we have to say. So many stories.
When you guys says black women, are you referring to black american women? I was watching a documentary on black American infertility and it says statistically it's mostly amongst black Americans because Caribbean black women had babies even after 50 with no problems.all my friends has their first child after 40 no problem. I think it's the foods in America that trigger this.
It's about catering to your patients. We need healthcare in the here and now not in some unknown amount of time from an independent system that we can't even fully imagine. We buy in to the current system everyday so yes we are owed better care.
tweety's life I think so. I agree it is the food. We're subject to just about every negative aspect of capitalism. My mom had my brother at 45 just fine.
Hi, womans have diferent phisic problem that white? Please explain to me, I never heard about that and sounds important.
I had my first child at 38 and I am now pregnant at 39 with my second child. Thank you for sharing this topic.
I’d rather take my chances later on than waste my youth changing diapers I’m just saying...
Sometimes it is not a choice to have a child after 35. I am 37 and not married yet so I am waiting until I get married to get pregnant.
We need to realize that for black women finding a man (of any race but especially black men) is hard if he’s not already married, *doesn’t* have a ‘preference for black women’, or you’d have to be okay with a sub bar man just to say you ‘got’ one.
When you’re out here trying to make a better future for yourself finding a man that can contribute to this is hard. Plus with the economy and fear of sending kids into debt before they even know what the word debt means is scary.
I'm so glad you're covering this. I am 41 and trying to conceive my first child and my Fallopian tubes are occluded. I want to be a mom so badly but can't afford IVF so I may never be a mom. My husband has 3 kids that he calls 'our kids' but it's not the same at all.
Have you been successful yet?
I've been telling people this information for YEARS, but people often don't want to hear it. They really believe that just because some celebrity had a kid at 45, they will be able to as well. Very sad for those who want to have kids and find out too late that their window of opportunity may have passed them by. Also, women's reproductive health is something that is grossly under-taught, at ever level of the education process. We need to make reproductive health a cornerstone of education not an elective.
Sophia Harrison 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
What a way to depress the fuck out of somebody and make them feel hopeless. Society is set up so that those of us without resources don't have access to family planning, which means that you have a permanent underclass of people who are poor and under educated. Meanwhile, those of us who are pursuing education and careers in hopes of financially stability to support a family are not a the prime age of conception. I don't hear of any new, ground-breaking research in fertility, but I'm hearing so much about erectile dysfunction and penile implants. It is so fucking hard to be a woman. Harder to be a black woman. Signed, single, never been married, no children, degreed professional at 39. Now, let me go home and cry.
Ladies as someone who's been avidly following fertility since 2007 let me say please be very proactive. There are very lot of things that you can do on your own. I suggest by starting at age 21(I didn't start until 34). I would have loved to have known my hormone baseline levels in my 20s. Every woman knows what her hormone levels are FSH, E2, LH and AHM. If your medical doctor is unwilling to get give you those tests, you can get them on your own they're relatively inexpensive.
Im 22 and would like to know more about this.
@@woldegebrielsara The tests FSH and E2 are different hormone measurements of estrogen that test how hard your body is working to “produce” an egg each month (provide you are have normal monthly cycles). Normal levels for FSH fall between levels 4-10. Levels over 10 could be indications of a fertility problem. Normal levels for E2 or under 80, however, levels under 75 are optimal.
It is important to test FSH and E2 together for you could have a FSH reading of 7 which looks good BUT your associated E2 reading for the cycle is 121 (potentially indicating there is problem). Note: For the most accurate assessments of your fertility health it is important to have your tests (which are blood tests) done no later than the 3rd day of your normal NON MEDICATED menstrual cycle.
If you a good relationship with your Dr., try to get these test done as part of your overall women’s wellness check. If your insurance covers these tests (check before hand), try to get them all done. If your medical doctor is unwilling to give you those tests or refer you to get the tests [you may want to concerned changing doctors. You can get tests test done on your own via online referrals to labs; they're relatively inexpensive. AGAIN: FSH, E2, LH testing is most accurate taken (no later than the 3rd day of your cycle). These three tests help determine how balanced and in alignment your hormones are during your cycle.
AMH is another hormone level that is used to measure the ovarian reserve (i.e., your measurable storage of eggs). AMH (may be taken any day of your cycle).
It’s great to have a baseline (i.e., reference point) from your healthiest time. Since youth is on your side, the thought is your body and eggs are in their best state; provided you are not overweight, you are having normal cycles and ARE eating moderately healthy meals and living a moderate healthy lifestyle.
Please do not get overwhelmed, once you get it, it is actually pretty cool info to know and easy to understand your fertility. I am happy to walk you through things, for most women know very little about their fertility when there younger other than “I don’t want to get pregnant,” and that not a healthy relationship to have with your body.
I’m happy to see you ladies having these discussions, kudos. I am happy to continue the conversation directly, if needed. I will send you some healthful reference links, and I’m happy to explain what I can.
@@odetochef Thank you much. The information is a bit overwhelming but I am very interested and dying to learn. I would love to continue the conversation directly as I have several questions. Links would be helpful as well. Maybe we can exchange emails?
What black women? Google the nations with the highest birth rates and only 1 in the top 10 is not african.
Momma Beekay They’re talking about Black women who are in the West. African women start having babies and families much younger- when they are at peak fertility. Black American women wait longer so they can get stability. So by the time they start trying to conceive, they lose fertility and have issues. It’s mostly a timing issue, not a fertility issue.
@@TheMorganVEVOor a robot
Its a hard place to be I have a few single friends who are trying to do the right thing by not having kids without marriage but they tend to get a lot of push back from men who oppose marriage and monogamy. Then we get accused of being picky at 30. Its like black women are fun to sex up and leave but not for Wifey. As soon as we set standards now we asking for too much.
Egg donation is EXPENSIVE.
Any sort of fertility treatment is expensive and not covered by insurance. That's a huge part of it.
I'm 19 but i still wanted to know why these issues happened. This is sad but this is reality😶
I just turned 37 last Tuesday and I've become comfortable with the possibility of never conceiving. It's just not worth stressing about anymore.
@Jessica Hello Adoption is definitely an option once I'm more financially comfortable to do so. It's extremely expensive, even for domestic adoptions.
"fertility declines at age 28" wow!
these stats are blowing my mind
if this doesnt put some fire on your behind, idk what will
Yall believe anything.where the proof.l never had a problem
Never was on birth control nor have I ever had any STD’s or STI’s I’m 25 years old and it just has never happened
Nora Jones as long as you are celebate no problem
I miss your beautiful lipstick & big hair, I didn't know you had a syllabus ?
you are sweet. i've been working on a long video.
The women in my family have repeatedly had oops babies after 38.....i mean aunts cousins etc.....so someone please explain to me whats going on in my family. Lol
ChattinWithJoJo I’m saying
This is this lady opinion.thats all..u see she said she was 33 band didnt have a problem..black people so stupid they believe anything.
I was diagnosed infertile at 19, told I was never gonna have kids, never had a regular period, pretty much checked off all the symptoms of pcos BUT last 2 month's we celebrated my daughters first birthday conceived naturally with herbs remedies
Margaret Sanger is dead but family is supposed to b alive. Poverty is a point I mean the point. Black mothers and black children r dieing in U.S. WAY more . The con to have kids just keep u poor aren't black WOMEN poor enough and suffering enough. No body is talking about black WOMEN being so poor welfare is poverty and fatherless households is also poverty. This helps these death rate but not just that. Black WOMEN r relaying on everybody but the actual man that got them pregnant.
Wow.what black women u know
No that's not it those women weren't taking birth control since they were young teens, us women nowadays started having sex as teens a lot of us, we start taking birth control as teens and by the time we start trying to get pregnant we have so much of that stuff backed up in our system it becomes more difficult.
LA L. I don’t agree I never been on birth control I’m 24 been trying for maybe 4 years and still haven’t gotten pregnant
Sorry but I don't believe age is the primary factor for infertility for black women under 35. What's missing from this discussion? It sounds like more options to get pregnant is the discussion instead of what the factors preventing a natural pregnancy in otherwisw heathly women.
Thats because you can think for yourself..really listen to what she saying
.this lady is white..talkung about black women but say she had a baby at 32 but didnt affect her..this is bs
This was a great discussion. Thank you.
Sooo basically I’m screwed 😆 😭
Don't believe the bs..everybody body is different.
Yall believe anything
It’s interesting that up until the modern era women’s fertility cut off was a blessing. Before birth control, a woman would just keep getting pregnant until her fertility declined. Imagine having to deal with that into your 40’s and 50’s. Yikes
That was great Thank you so so much!!!!
I thought we were the most fertile, I'm surprised.
AWizardMummyandMartian ImUnique We are!
It’s true , african women are the most fertile.
If you try to have a baby YOUNG, then you are more fertile. But American women (black and white) wait longer to get stability first, so children come later. African women start motherhood much younger. That explains their fertility statistics.
Wow this is great!
This was a
Lie
Have you ever looked at the foods that the average black woman eats? Disgrace.
and what the government and cooperate system provides in the community? Agreed
Nikki true but beans and legumes are in the hood. Black people don't eat that.
Food alone won't cure or even treat infertility all by itself, but a healthy diet does help alleviate symptoms of conditions like inflammation and insulin resistance, which are only two of several factors that contribute to infertility.
People eat what they can afford. If you live in a food desert where convenience stores and fast food chains abound... If you live in an apartment with 2-3 kids on a single mother's income... If there are no Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, or Sprouts in your community -even if there were, you couldn't afford to shop there weekly... If there are no community gardens to buy affordable, fresh foods, what would you eat?
Just last month, an order was made that SNAP recipients cannot purchase fresh fruits and vegetables at local farmer's markets.
autsim bullshit. They sale beans, legumes, spinach, and broccoli at every supermarket. Those items are 1 dollar and they are super foods
Happy Life evidentally you aren't black, and you definitely don't live in the South, because beans, sweet potatoes, greens, corn, broccoli, tomatoes and green beans are STAPLES. Greens used to be 49 cents a bunch until white people declared them a superfood. Now the same bunch is $1.50 - and smaller!
While you're talking about frozen foods, let's talk about the fact that ConAgra is about to take over the frozen food industry... So what good is it to eat vegetables if they are laden with chemicals? Healthy is not affordable.
Okay I'm 39 with one child I had at 18 she's now 21. I been practicing safe sex and learned it was hard being a single mom so I waited. Now I'm thinking I might want another kid she's off to college and I'm missing being a hands on mom.
Because no one wants to touch them?
Nobody wants you...