Islamic Art and Culture in the Renaissance-The True Moor of Venice
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2009
- Michael Barry, the Patti Cadby Birch Consultative Chairman, Department of Islamic Art, MMA, presents this examination of the mysterious central figure in one of the most enigmatic paintings of the Italian Renaissance, Giorgiones "Three Philosophers" (Venice, 1504). The discussion of this work, which is now in the Kunsthistoriches Museum in Vienna, sheds light on the role that Islam and Islamic philosophy played in late medieval and early Renaissance European perceptions.
See the Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History for the following related essays:
Venice and the Islamic World, 828 1797
www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/vnis...
Islamic Art and Culture: the Venetian Perspective:
www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/isac...
Amazing, graceful, and so well presented. Inspiring شكرا جزيلا
Common knowledge in the middle east that ibn rashid's
philosphy kickstarted the renaissance..Great lecture .
Thank you for spreading the truth ..
no it didn't plus he was born in Spain that's were got his ideas from
Common knowledge but also wrong knowledge
Not Spain, Al Andalous …
beautiful, thank you!
Brilliantly insightful! So grateful for scholars and teachers in their many many forms
Thanks for sharing with us this video, it's great thanks again.
Wonderful lecture.
very interesting. I am very interested in symbolism and ancient art. I love it.
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Excellent. Thank you.
Engaging and illuminating. Thank you.
Brilliant, though there are some smaller Errors, e.g the photo of the church at 54:11 is NOT San Giovanni degli Eremiti, but San Cataldo with the Tower of Santa Maria dell'ammiraglio in the background. And Frederick was the second of his Name as Holy Roman Emperor, but the first as King of Sicily.
you mean Andalus :P
It’s awesome to learn about my history... but why is not like my grandparents have told me?
Because they have been taught to be ashamed of it.
Nice, nicc and nice, fino i lijepo i predivno...
This is brilliant. The trolling below is outrageous.
Nice presentation. Makes you wonder what the heck is going on in today's Catholic Church.
TRADERS is the great word to explain the painting the True Moors of Venice
and it has to be said that Armenians traders "Khojjah" were since centuries used to occupy a first place in the International trade ... a banker of the Medecis was armenian origin ... and as traders who wants to developp their business in peace, they promote PEACE vs war !
this is the deep meaning of this painting ... it is a painting to glory of understanding between main military and economical strengths
Since when Ibn Rushd became European? Did i miss something? 🤔
he said " Islamic philosopher " !
The Moors of Venice were depicted with Othello, so idk what's going on here.
Looks like white folks to me.
There is nothing you can do unfortunately, history is being twisted even by the Met to please Muslims
Ya...moors got expelled out of Spain (which they ushered in Spains Renessiance ) then went into Europe, and saved them from medevil feudalism..what did you miss??
Our Great amazigh ancestors ❤️❤️
I recommend: "Bound in Venice" by Alessandro Marzo Magno.
Just got it...I recommend the Great Sea by Abulafia..
Right on! It's funny how His-Story only goes back so far to reinforce His-Story
Canaanite-Phoenician-Venician
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Thats a good point. Not all of the Moors were black or from N. Africa. The word Moor has ancient roots. The people today known as mid-easterners are actually descendents of the Hyksos invaders. they are mixed with 9 different blood types and are relatively new to the planet. They are not the original of anything.
there are seven root races, two that are future races...all others came from the original 5 root races
Abu Walid Mohammad Ibn Rushd, born in 1128 C.E. in Cordova, Spain, has been held as one of the greatest thinkers and scientists of history. His name is often Latinized as Averroes. A product of twelfth-century Islamic Spain, he set out to integrate Aristotelian philosophy with Islamic thought.
Ibn Rushd - Biography, Facts and Pictures
www.famousscientists.org/ibn-rushd/
He was born in Al Andalus not in Spain.
I know what you mean Moor. So called "blacks" are actually Moors. There's really no such nationality as "black", although many have adopted that term. The true identity of so called "black" people is Moor. That does not mean that "black" implies Moor or "Moor" implies black. These term are not related, although connotations have been added to them over time. My point is, I know what you mean by saying they were "black" but melanated people, if you will, were called "Moors" at that time. Peace
hhhh let me correct u, moor came from old mauritania(old morocco), it came also from amur (land) example mourakush is (amur n wakuch)(land of the god), not as you think + north africans are berbers not sub saharians
@@atlas6397 A people is named after the land or the land after the people 🇲🇦
Three is also an allegory of plurality!
Note to self: I left off at 41:00
I hope you completed it haha
Very well and helpful! And hey people I made a video about the venetian renaissance so if you guys need some extra information in addition to this video you are free to take a look:
The "final" interpretation of Giorgione's La Tempesta! What about the 2015 publication, "Hesiod's Theogony as source of the
iconological program of Giorgione's "Tempesta" : the poet, Amalthea, the infant Zeus and the Muses" - it also claims to be "definitive".
Some very insightful points made throughout - however, Averroes sidelined in the early sixteenth century??? Averroes CONTINUED to have a huge influence in Padua. In fact, Michael Barry, failed to mention that Paduan universities championed Averroes' interpretations of Aristotle in opposition to Aquinas (and later Scholasticism). Furthermore, when Aristotle's Poetics gained a huge influence in Paduan universities in the mid-sixteenth century, Averroes middle commentary was regularly employed in its analysis. So hardly sidelined. The depiction of Averroes to the side of the so called 'School of Athens' (a seventeenth century title) merely mirrors the negative or secondary position of the philosopher that Barry showed in earlier works of art. If anything Petrarca's views were further negated in the Padua of the mid-sixteenth sixteenth century, post Raphael's work.
Averroes wasn't merely seen as being a commentator, some medieval scholastics and Renaissance scholars believed he drew upon lost works by Aristotle and his peripatetic followers. It would thus be most strange that such an author would be sidelined.
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True Moors is a exaggerated overstatement. Moor like the true Mamalukes.
Edit Mameluk
@קומפרסור יהודים arabic population in North Africa is a minority, moors were amazigh berbers with a small number of arabic and black people with them
the hi-jack
The true Moor is Morocco 🇲🇦
Moors are the Berbers in general not only morroco
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GIOGIO & Not all berbers but the moroccan berbers
@@nomorenoless3273 Who tell you that and how Moroccan
Morocco is founded after the independence from France before that they was ruled by dynasties kingdoms like miniride so don't say the moors of Al andalus was Moroccan because this is a big lie
@@nomorenoless3273 Majority of morocans are berbers
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This dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about 😂
Dude, listening to this fellow is more effective than popping a box full of quaalude tablets.
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Yes Yes indeed u r correct yet I employ u to continue researching without bias and u will indeed see why it's funny how His-Story only goes back so far to reinforce His-Story. You even described 'Medieval.' My dear friend even to use that word excludes much story. Just like saying Egypt without knowing the word Kemet shows a lack of reference to time. Today indeed "Moorish" isn't distinct, oh but 'Moor' denoting black Aboriginal Indigenous was indeed so in the distant past. Harmony and Love Fam.
Oh, Noooo, I'm so sorry. It's the MOOPS. The correct answer is, The MOOPS.
LOL! I just saw that episode last week lol!
@@lorettalynndavis9695 Classic !
Right! Reinforced in the paintings that they they created themselves. Very fallacious.
In the first painting Yahawah Sha is white...🤔🤔🤔
we wuzz da real kangz. love from Numidia
Here in 2021 anyone
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"Moor" became a broad term for a number of associated ethnic groups who have been historically designated as "Moors". Used more generally in Europe to refer to anyone of Arab or African descent. But you're right, it's a nationality. However Moors were another name for the African American and Arab Muslims trading and living in medieval Europe. There were even Muslims from the Philippines who were called Moors. So Islam is still tied to the term in history.
There were no "African Americans" in Medieval Europe.
@@cgoode4471 There were no European Americans in Medieval Europe.
@@NationalDeputy No one said there were
@@cgoode4471 LOL... go snd check Spain and Portugal there was plenty.
Lmaooo... Oh boy! Beware of His-Story
So long😪
Not a Dark skin man in sight
how wild the art of telling stories about religion seems to depict reality, even though no art is perfect, and art is only an illusion of uncontrollable fantasy. It is easy to mislead and turn the imaginary into a real one.
It's moops
Moors are Africans not Europeans come from the word Mauri Mauritania, Morocco Africa stop try to take our history.
who said thet are not
and not just Morocco
Looking at your name
I believe you will try to blkwash North Africans
Am I wrong?
Nothing called Moors. Al Andalus with Andalusians who have Arabic roots
How can it be called a Renaissance when you had no prior showings of a great civilization. Have we forgotten the dark ages when Europe was 90% illiterate. Moors had to civilize things up there.
Moores in Europe. ruclips.net/video/tL-t0LIBnqQ/видео.html
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Must you go that extreme, ignoring Greco-Roman heritage in western Europe?
@Witch Chan Must you hide the fact that the Renaissance in Europe was paved by the Islamic Al-Andulus. Why do you people dont care about historical facts?
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How so? I find the humanist values, Greco-Roman aesthetic and Roman coding of law, double-entry accounting, prototypes of mass industrialization (as is seen with the Venetian shipyards), the proliferation of printed literature, and the legal principles of private property to be all rather dissonant to anything gleaned from Islamic and/or Moorish culture; be it the indigenous or the product of conquest.
The Islamic/Moorish cultures had admirable attributes, whenever they were allowed to be enjoyed (such as in a secular Baghdad in the 1200s), but to accredit it as a progenitor to the Rinascimento is quite the mental leap.
the moors were the enhabits of the anceint kingdom of mauritania known now as morocco
🤷♂️why do these lectures always auto play on my feed. I've never even clicked on one. I'm a truth seeker and I'm bombarded with these lectures. Why?
without the muslims scientist it would't be any European Renaissance. Galilio took so many findings from muslim scientist such as Ibn Haytham(the greatest and the first astronomist who measured the diameter of the moon, good times
you didn't watch the video did you? plus majority of Muslim scientist were Persian aka European most muslim scientist are from Iran or lived near there
@messiah no. They were Persian.
His view is apologetic. Indeed he no consider many elements for example the neo-platonism, that arrived in Venice with Greek diaspora and the fall of Constantinople (1453). Indeed there is a strong influence of byzantine "icon". Unfortunately Islam philosophical influences in this period were almost nil. The Turks and Mongols were practical people. The Mamluk Egypt was decadent and besiged. In the Tamerlane Empire, the philosophers lost the heads not only ideally.
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Obviously you are ignorant on the opinion that the Venetians had on the moors.
Unfortunately this is not a lecture about facts but about pleasing today's Muslims
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It literally is facts tho
everything is A LITTLE WHITE LIE
Stop hating yourself
Averroes was a jew (Aben Rosh) whose books were prohibited by the muslims. But it's true that the European philosophers appreciated his Aristoteles interpretations. On islamic philosophy (as such thing exist) Averroes had no influence at all.
no sir averoes like what moors you always speculate about ...and who are imazighen of morocco, originally Mauretanians who welcomed many of world jews since 2000 years..
***** Averroes was banned by the mohammedans and his writings burned. End of all islamic philosophy till this day. Who's the idiot here? The mohammedans, who else?
cad80 24 Anyway, the koran preaches hatred against the jews and all mohammedans are ordered to fight them. Don't tell me you love Israel or the jews.
+pieter lucas maria lemmens beaid being funny ignorant you are so ireespextuous that you don't worth to be answered you better stay in your mind darkness
pieter lucas maria lemmens yeah and during the centuries we ruled half Spain, us and our cousins the andalucians (Berbers) produced the human civilisation while you and Europe used to eat each others...if we are late now that's because your hatred countries imposed to us conti nual wars during centuries like savages...look to north Morocco and see if your army of Catholic psychopaths left any civilisation
No paintings of the slaves they had
repeating same video again and again
Wrong information Totally!
EVERYTHING about Moors is synonymous to dark skinned people lol. Even a Spanish dish of WHITE rice and BLACK beans is called MOOR Y CRISTIANOS, The Moor = Black Beans, the Cristianos = White Rice. Nice try though.
no moors are mostly Arab slash Persian slash Ethiopians
Stop your cancer, moors in our language meaning land not black just you say
Where is the orientalists art?🤔
I said the same thing.. TY
Google it?
Islam has no art other than arabic calligraphy
I seen a hour plus long video of my people then seen he waa stealing my history
I saw you on another video about the Moors I swear
@@-xnnybimb-9398 we out here
Not all of the 'Moors' were black or from northern Africa.
north Africa is not black
Help me understand this????
@Salvatore Lanzieri Syria is next to Canaan and the Canaanites are a dark people how did Syrians become so white
a another white Jesus lol
The moors had dark skin 😄😄😄😄 Beauty of the night ✊🏾❤
They didn't, stop stealing history.
@@hb7090 😳 Only creation of history criminals are the Europeans because they have no history 👽 😈 came from no where!! Why they need this 💉💊 to live here 🌎
@@hb7090 Do your history research!! Dark skin and only thing back then that was white,was their horses!!
@@daraalexander8039 People actually believed that white people erased everything, don't get me wrong they did that a few times. But not with the Moors, the Moors are berbers and they have a white to brown skin but not black. I am an actual berber not like those blacks in America claiming my culture, language and history. It's the most disgusting thing you can do
@@daraalexander8039 There seems to be a conspiracy among black people that white people erased everything. Black people did the same thing to Egypt, Greece, Rome etc.
hahah ahh one of theses guys the etymology absoluty matters if something was green would you call it white? umm yeah i diddnt think so dont try to claim the few products of mix racing to be the moors the original moors where black moor means black look it up if it where white they would have a word that means white anyway you obviously have alot to learn friend
@Angel Noel Moors were black wtf is a middle eastern
Angel Noel your ignorance is very telling of your failed study, and sand in your eyes and ears...(BlackaMoor)
Etymology does not lie, the term Middle East misnomer, White wight has a beginning not original study or allow your ignorance to swing the sword of Justice your way, Being out of harmony with natural law brings instant death, Natural laws bring life the latter death culture need we say Moor history reveals the death bringers with false claims-and no facts to support. Peace And Love keep researching be honest, not foolish we can read now..,
You do know Moor means black. Let that sink in...then reevaluate his lecture and you will realize the lies
IN WHAT LANGUAGE?
@@dbcooper28 Get over it the Moors were black people. Before the renaissance you do know black people ruled Europe for over 1,000 years
@@jayjohnson7708 how are moors black? moors first conquered europe through the umayyad caliphate, which is based from damascus, syria, not sub saharan africa. black and white folks are just as guilty for stealing history. its the same people saying that sumer and elam was also black
hhhh let me correct u, moor came from old mauritania(old morocco), it came also from amur (land) example mourakush is (amur n wakuch)(land of the god), not as you think + north africans are berbers not sub saharians
@@dbcooper28 Tamazight, and it does not mean black, and berbers are not sub saharians neg***
hhhh let me correct u, moor came from old mauritania(old morocco), it came also from amur (land) example mourakush is (amur n wakuch)(land of the god), not as you think + north africans are berbers not sub saharians
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Lol moses is europran n so is Muhammad lol Caucasian stop it 😂
Islamic art, this is almost all occidental art, in islam the representation of the nature is blasphemy
+Marceline The Dragon No, it's not. Nature is often represented even in mosques--scenes of nature with cities, vegetation motifs, and so on, are actually fairly common. Representations of animals, people, and even sometimes the Prophet himself and angels are common in art of the Islamic world, like in manuscript illuminations, panel paintings, etc. What is NOT allowed are representations of God, and images of the Prophet that show his face--whenever he's depicted he always has a veil over his face, even when he's shown as a new-born infant.
Also, mosque paintings cannot have images of the human form. From the point of view of Islamic theology, it makes complete sense that this would not be allowed: the Christian Church makes such images b/c they believe Jesus Christ was human as well as divine, so they show him as a human to emphasize he's both, while Islam doesn't believe this: to them, Jesus was a great prophet but certainly not 'God made flesh'. But the Christians have certainly had their share of controversies about such images: the Byzantine Iconoclasm and Protestant image-smashing show that Christianity has the same tendency as Islam, if it weren't for the doctrine of "God became Man" it probably would've gone in the same direction as the Muslims and the Jews.
Brilliant.
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Operation white wash
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