Al-Sūfī-the Persian astronomer, was a major contributor to the translation into Arabic of the Hellenistic astronomy that had been centered in Alexandria, Egypt. His was the first to attempt to relate the Greek with the traditional Arabic star names and constellations, which were completely unrelated and overlapped in complicated ways.
How come in Arabia whr Islam has started.. Thr is No such Art n Artifacts... bt they concurred the regions and claimed it a thr Arts... Whereas in Islam its Haram to carve any Idols Even today... Thr is some extremely incorrect with this Videos.
Thank you for mentioning that. as a moroccan myself I am sick of arabs wanting to arabize everything including us people of morocco, they want to eradicate our identity and race, which is Amazigh not Arab.
And - I am convinced that art and cultures are intertwined in many secret and important ways - maybe because all Human being recognize beauty, devotion and songs of longing and love 🎵💜🎶
It is painful for an Iranian to witness how all the Persian art and science that was created since the beginning of Islam, is referred to as "Islamic" or even "Arabic"
What is this object at video minute 53:29, in the far left corner? It is too large to be made of an animal tusk. It has many of the same characteristics of the small box you earlier claimed was made of Ivory animal tusk. I think you are lying.
47:00 The Ottoman empire map is wrong they never conquered Spain or Morocco, I am not sure about the rest of the African countries though. They tried invading Morocco but they were defeated at The wady labne battle and were pushed back to what is known today as the country of Algeria.
That contractor should be held liable if he didn’t build to spec. The design/engineering is responsible if it was. What is the figure for a priceless historical piece, and restoration efforts?
8.01mins This 12th.century lamp has cutwork panels which have perhaps been cut using metal dies and a press? The earliest examples of die cutting in Europe is in the 18th century ,but the Arab Artisans may have been using such methods 600 years earlier. On this lamp you can clearly see where the dies were attached when it was being pressed. I would suggest that this lamp is made of brass ( an alloy of copper and Zinc) rather than just copper?
Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi- the the Persian Mathematician and polymath who is The Father of Algebra. The name Algorithm is named after him. Al-Khwarezmi became Algorithm
Try as I might, I find most of Islamic art repetitive, unimaginative, and largely stale. It's abhorrence of naturalism doesn't help either (only Persian art or art inspired by Persian prototypes seems to be an exception in aesthetic terms)
So, Ibn Khaldun was right 800 years ago when he wrote that the so called "Islamic" science and art were actually "Ajam" (greater Iranian world and the Hellenic world) science and art.. Just look at this entire video: from the book of the astronomer Sufi Shirazi (the discoverer of the Andromeda galaxy) , to the astrolabes, the ceramics, the calligraphic works, the architecture, the fabrics, the utensils...... all are greater Iranian (Iran-Afghanistan-Central Asia-Kurdistan), or done by them working for the Mughals of India or the Ottomans of Turkey---that is, -except the two pieces from Egypt shown in this entire video! Geeeez vizzz, only the the very end of this vid has anything at Met or the Louvre that cover any other groups! So, why not just call it "Islamic art of the Iranic World at the Met"? I have visited it many many times, and that is the correct statement to make.
Yes and All from todays Afghanistan. The entire tradition was born under the timurid herat empire. And 90% of the paintings in tahmasb book of kings are made by Afghans.
@@MANCO513 So very true. Nearly all the people of Afghanistan and Iran (Ariana and Persia) are of greater Iranian world, in their roots and at present. There is a Turkic addition in Central Asia and Anatolia, but that can be distinguished easily by its simplicity. The art from Herat is supreme: better than those from either Samarkand or Isfahan. It was the apex. (And yet, the bloody British with the help of Abdulrahman Khan of Kabul, dynamited most of the priceless buildings and art work there in the 1880s. God damn them both)
@TWOCOWS1 can see u have good info. Very good. But there is no iranic world, there is only khorasan and khorasani world. The name Iran means khorasan. Iran was given to khorasan in the book of kings by Daqighi or Ferdowsi 1000 years ago. More than 90% of places in the book of kings of khorasan are in todays Afghanistan. The rest 10% are located in modern day Iran, tajikistan, Turkmenistan, uzbekistan and so.. . The country of Iran is making big crime and No one can see it, it's ridiculous.
Если бы я могла начать жизнь сначала я бы занялась изучением искусства люблю старый текстиль ковры картины музей искусств в Будапеште это восхитительно
I think most of the text specially what is at the Louvre was originalmente recorded in French a s well as Arab People problably used French, I'm afraid.
"Now all we have to do is convince you that there is something wrong with all of your stuff": I heard you folks over the radio, talking about how you planned to take all of my things. You have already stolen about ten million dollars worth of my personal possessions, plus my family's land, by doing just that - convincing us through acts of subterfuge, that there is something wrong with us. You have stolen at least two waterfront houses, plus another four homes from my family, by constantly distressing us until we fled the area. The "Ivory" box that appears at video minute 29:45 could just as easily be made of bakelite, or white wood, or anything else like white clay. You already know that collecting the tusks, or 'Ivory" from the animals is a felony. You already told me that over the television. Since I have no way of knowing for certain what this white box is made of, you imply that it is against the law to own this object. Right, Luke?
"americanmorningsupply.com", with Chuck Norris; My mom told me in 1998 that Chuck Norris studied Martial Arts with Mark Favre, her boyfriend. John Townsend studied Martial Arts with this same group of people. I paid for my two older children, Molly and James, to take Martial Arts with Mr. Townsend. This was before John Townsend at his DoJang in Poulsbo, Kitsap County Washington State, sexualy assaulted my orphaned daughter, Molly Lynn Dorsey. He took photographs of Molly with her shirt off, fed her alcohol and told her he was going to take her in his hot tub. My mother's boyfriend, Mark Favre, committed suicide with one of his guns about five years after this. I am not interested in anything that has to do with fighting or the Martial Arts. I think it makes friends into enemies. They all then ganged up on Molly and put her in jail. Molly has been a good and helpful child since she was a baby. She has never done anything to deserve any of this abuse. She has been mercilessly tortured since she was an infant, by the devil and his demons. Your efforts to sell me a product by using Chuck Norris are not going to be successful. I am not a fan of Martial Arts, or of John Townsend and his friends. They are determined to torture me until they have an excuse to put me in jail, as well. Violence is not the answer to our problems. I believe that Mr. John Townsend and his friend tortured my children and myself, hoping to put us in jail and to take our money. "We have thrown everything we have at this man, and we get nothing back" was John's comment to me in 1998. He did not elaborate, but after all the following events, like Mark Favre's suicide, I see a pattern of conduct; to foster a hostile environment until they provoked us to commit acts of violence, thereby giving themselves an excuse to take away our freedom and our money.
There exists no such as _"Muslim"_ Art. Islam doesn't have any arts. *This is Persian Art.* Tiling was invented by Persians and the Minarets of Persian Mosques are made from *Persian Arts and Architecture* that have nothing to do with Islam.
Curator Sheila Canby unwittingly makes a big mistake. There have been many changes in the words of the Quran, from the beginning until 1924. This used to be known only to Islamic Western academic scholars - the Islamic ones covered it up even from their own people, and the Western academics either were too ivory scholar or too afraid to make their findings known. The truth is easily uncovered now, in RUclips videos and books, such as by the best-selling scholar Ibn Waraq, and the entertaining and well-documented adventure novel "The Topkapi Secret" by Terry Kelhawk.
هدموا كل شئ جميل في الدول الإسلامية ثم نقلوا الرفات إلى المتاحف .. يا لهذا الترف الفكري. حقيقة لا أجد أي تعبير لأي تبرير، ولكن هذه المتاحف لن تغير الواقع الذي لاينصف الحضارات والثقافت بتاتا.
Beutiful art and nice documentary. I was completely appalled by Metropolitan Museum of Art placing ancient divine pieces strait into modern pretty replicas that half of admires could have in our own bathrooms. Replication of Moroccan court using mixture of modern decor and stunning pieces of the past looks like beautifully illustrated old books augmented where the missing pages with new pages done in the same style. Profanation of idea in the whole glory. Rather silly.
Persian Greek Roman’s they inherited their knowledge basically from old Egyptian Phoenician and babilon in irak all are semetic tribes related to each other, even the main world religions are from semetic origin, Oman and Jemen have very old civilizations. The Arabs of today are the grand grand children’s of these tribes , Arabs from Mecca and Medina who defeated the persian Greek and Roman’s were very welcomed by the native people from Iraq till North Africa since they were ethnically and culturally as well as language wise very related.
Talking about all the art shown in the film as Islamic art is the same as talking about the art of modernism, impressionism or post-impressionism as Christian art. Art critics of the 19th century were pathetic idiots who divided art according to the map and calendar, and not according to the morphology of its origin. It's time to stop this idiotic practice! Just because an image contains the Arabic alphabet does not mean that it is Islamic. In the Islamic country of Afghanistan, a monument depicting Buddha was carved into a rock. Everyone knows perfectly well what happened to him later - and this was done by people who consider themselves true followers of Islam. The very term “Islamic” or “Christian” or “Hindu” means one thing - religious doctrines. And if art does not follow the dictates of these doctrines, such a term cannot be applied to it.
Al-Sūfī-the Persian astronomer, was a major contributor to the translation into Arabic of the Hellenistic astronomy that had been centered in Alexandria, Egypt. His was the first to attempt to relate the Greek with the traditional Arabic star names and constellations, which were completely unrelated and overlapped in complicated ways.
yep
Thank you for these uploads! Among all these wonderful and incredible works of art, that "splashware" and that pitcher were absolutely astounding
How come in Arabia whr Islam has started.. Thr is No such Art n Artifacts... bt they concurred the regions and claimed it a thr Arts... Whereas in Islam its Haram to carve any Idols Even today... Thr is some extremely incorrect with this Videos.
The calligraphy at 11:18 is Farsi and not arabic!
It's a Hafiz poem and NOT a sentence from or about Koran.
Huge difference.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO.
Written in perso-arabic script ( a modified Arabic script for farsi language )
Wow thank you for informing!
Thank you for mentioning that. as a moroccan myself I am sick of arabs wanting to arabize everything including us people of morocco, they want to eradicate our identity and race, which is Amazigh not Arab.
FArsi is written in arabic script.. you sagg
Brilliant! What a wonderful presentation, and timely.
Its so beautifull …and the Music and song is just so wonderfull 🎵💜🎶
I find this art just so attractive - 🎶💜🎵
Am I right to recognize the voice of Philippe de Montebello in the video? It is wow! My respect to the great man!
You are damn right!
Nice 🌺 Many Thanks for presenting this excellent segment 🦋
Thanks so much for posting
Mesmerizing arts and artifacts.
خوب بود
And - I am convinced that art and cultures are intertwined in many secret and important ways - maybe because all Human being recognize beauty, devotion and songs of longing and love 🎵💜🎶
Mesmerizing
An amazing journey through this intricate expression of Love. Ravished.
It is painful for an Iranian to witness how all the Persian art and science that was created since the beginning of Islam, is referred to as "Islamic" or even "Arabic"
What is this object at video minute 53:29, in the far left corner? It is too large to be made of an animal tusk. It has many of the same characteristics of the small box you earlier claimed was made of Ivory animal tusk. I think you are lying.
wonderfull video✨
47:00 The Ottoman empire map is wrong they never conquered Spain or Morocco, I am not sure about the rest of the African countries though. They tried invading Morocco but they were defeated at The wady labne battle and were pushed back to what is known today as the country of Algeria.
I got million dollar feeling from these vedio
Присоединяюсь прекрасно
That contractor should be held liable if he didn’t build to spec. The design/engineering is responsible if it was. What is the figure for a priceless historical piece, and restoration efforts?
8.01mins This 12th.century lamp has cutwork panels which have perhaps been cut using metal dies and a press? The earliest examples of die cutting in Europe is in the 18th century ,but the Arab Artisans may have been using such methods 600 years earlier. On this lamp you can clearly see where the dies were attached when it was being pressed. I would suggest that this lamp is made of brass ( an alloy of copper and Zinc) rather than just copper?
lmao "arab" artisans 😂
Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi- the the Persian Mathematician and polymath who is The Father of Algebra.
The name Algorithm is named after him. Al-Khwarezmi became Algorithm
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Luke was born in China? I heard you over the RUclips channel.
5:38 God/Allah didn't bring a NEW faith, He completed the faith that already existed, the faith of Ibrahim.
“Lifting the veil” certainly a choice metaphor
Beautiful
Though I wish you showed some Timurid glazed brickwork (Banna'i/Hazarbaf)
FAITH IN HUMANITY RESTORED.
of course the white european renames a completely muslim crafted basin "baptistere de saint louis" ...
Try as I might, I find most of Islamic art repetitive, unimaginative, and largely stale. It's abhorrence of naturalism doesn't help either (only Persian art or art inspired by Persian prototypes seems to be an exception in aesthetic terms)
Yup this is all Persian art. Prrsian art is unqiue. There exists no such thing as Islamic Art. Islam has no Arts. Persian art isnt Islamic.
So, Ibn Khaldun was right 800 years ago when he wrote that the so called "Islamic" science and art were actually "Ajam" (greater Iranian world and the Hellenic world) science and art.. Just look at this entire video: from the book of the astronomer Sufi Shirazi (the discoverer of the Andromeda galaxy) , to the astrolabes, the ceramics, the calligraphic works, the architecture, the fabrics, the utensils...... all are greater Iranian (Iran-Afghanistan-Central Asia-Kurdistan), or done by them working for the Mughals of India or the Ottomans of Turkey---that is, -except the two pieces from Egypt shown in this entire video! Geeeez vizzz, only the the very end of this vid has anything at Met or the Louvre that cover any other groups! So, why not just call it "Islamic art of the Iranic World at the Met"? I have visited it many many times, and that is the correct statement to make.
Yes and All from todays Afghanistan. The entire tradition was born under the timurid herat empire. And 90% of the paintings in tahmasb book of kings are made by Afghans.
@@MANCO513 So very true. Nearly all the people of Afghanistan and Iran (Ariana and Persia) are of greater Iranian world, in their roots and at present. There is a Turkic addition in Central Asia and Anatolia, but that can be distinguished easily by its simplicity. The art from Herat is supreme: better than those from either Samarkand or Isfahan. It was the apex. (And yet, the bloody British with the help of Abdulrahman Khan of Kabul, dynamited most of the priceless buildings and art work there in the 1880s. God damn them both)
@TWOCOWS1 can see u have good info. Very good. But there is no iranic world, there is only khorasan and khorasani world. The name Iran means khorasan. Iran was given to khorasan in the book of kings by Daqighi or Ferdowsi 1000 years ago. More than 90% of places in the book of kings of khorasan are in todays Afghanistan. The rest 10% are located in modern day Iran, tajikistan, Turkmenistan, uzbekistan and so.. . The country of Iran is making big crime and No one can see it, it's ridiculous.
@@MANCO513 You are the enemy of yourself, isolating yourself into a smaller and weaker world, and this to the delight of your enemies. Enjoy yourself.
@TWOCOWS1 a typical Iranian says this.
Naguis buvertus asquo islamic kita memang gereja namun bangga dengan warisan muslim.. lihgvio adx xdut
At 9 minutes, do they really describe the temple mount, center of Judaism as "site of a former roman temple"?
It is
true tho
Yes, I agree with her, at video minute 54:00. Without the arts, we become robotic. We have no personality without the arts.
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Если бы я могла начать жизнь сначала я бы занялась изучением искусства люблю старый текстиль ковры картины музей искусств в Будапеште это восхитительно
Arabic calligraphy is so breathtaking....
@@kimberlyj4644This isn't _"Arabic"_ calligraphy. LOL!
the collection is indeed beautiful, but people voicing over with a quasi french accent are ridiculous and vexing
I think most of the text specially what is at the Louvre was originalmente recorded in French a s well as Arab People problably used French, I'm afraid.
"Now all we have to do is convince you that there is something wrong with all of your stuff": I heard you folks over the radio, talking about how you planned to take all of my things. You have already stolen about ten million dollars worth of my personal possessions, plus my family's land, by doing just that - convincing us through acts of subterfuge, that there is something wrong with us. You have stolen at least two waterfront houses, plus another four homes from my family, by constantly distressing us until we fled the area. The "Ivory" box that appears at video minute 29:45 could just as easily be made of bakelite, or white wood, or anything else like white clay. You already know that collecting the tusks, or 'Ivory" from the animals is a felony. You already told me that over the television. Since I have no way of knowing for certain what this white box is made of, you imply that it is against the law to own this object. Right, Luke?
the Spanish stuff was quite nice
Beautiful how they ended by the uniting of worlds , that is the only way forward
Islamic art is absolutely beautiful!❤
This isn't _"Islamic"_ Art. This is *Persian* Art.
It's Iranian art, the rest is just imitation
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It's persian words 11:18
Geometry and Algebra so they were master mathematicians.
The Persians were the master mathematicians who shaped geometry and algebra.
"americanmorningsupply.com", with Chuck Norris; My mom told me in 1998 that Chuck Norris studied Martial Arts with Mark Favre, her boyfriend. John Townsend studied Martial Arts with this same group of people. I paid for my two older children, Molly and James, to take Martial Arts with Mr. Townsend. This was before John Townsend at his DoJang in Poulsbo, Kitsap County Washington State, sexualy assaulted my orphaned daughter, Molly Lynn Dorsey. He took photographs of Molly with her shirt off, fed her alcohol and told her he was going to take her in his hot tub. My mother's boyfriend, Mark Favre, committed suicide with one of his guns about five years after this. I am not interested in anything that has to do with fighting or the Martial Arts. I think it makes friends into enemies. They all then ganged up on Molly and put her in jail. Molly has been a good and helpful child since she was a baby. She has never done anything to deserve any of this abuse. She has been mercilessly tortured since she was an infant, by the devil and his demons. Your efforts to sell me a product by using Chuck Norris are not going to be successful. I am not a fan of Martial Arts, or of John Townsend and his friends. They are determined to torture me until they have an excuse to put me in jail, as well. Violence is not the answer to our problems. I believe that Mr. John Townsend and his friend tortured my children and myself, hoping to put us in jail and to take our money. "We have thrown everything we have at this man, and we get nothing back" was John's comment to me in 1998. He did not elaborate, but after all the following events, like Mark Favre's suicide, I see a pattern of conduct; to foster a hostile environment until they provoked us to commit acts of violence, thereby giving themselves an excuse to take away our freedom and our money.
To me the best part of Muslim art is tiling and the most beautiful are Persian Mosque mineret.
There exists no such as _"Muslim"_ Art. Islam doesn't have any arts. *This is Persian Art.* Tiling was invented by Persians and the Minarets of Persian Mosques are made from *Persian Arts and Architecture* that have nothing to do with Islam.
Mosques have nothing to do with Islam?😂 Sure Persians made it but it's Islamic heritage and we're proud@texmexexpress
Curator Sheila Canby unwittingly makes a big mistake. There have been many changes in the words of the Quran, from the beginning until 1924. This used to be known only to Islamic Western academic scholars - the Islamic ones covered it up even from their own people, and the Western academics either were too ivory scholar or too afraid to make their findings known.
The truth is easily uncovered now, in RUclips videos and books, such as by the best-selling scholar Ibn Waraq, and the entertaining and well-documented adventure novel "The Topkapi Secret" by Terry Kelhawk.
You are such an evil liar!
هدموا كل شئ جميل في الدول الإسلامية ثم نقلوا الرفات إلى المتاحف .. يا لهذا الترف الفكري. حقيقة لا أجد أي تعبير لأي تبرير، ولكن هذه المتاحف لن تغير الواقع الذي لاينصف الحضارات والثقافت بتاتا.
Beutiful art and nice documentary. I was completely appalled by Metropolitan Museum of Art placing ancient divine pieces strait into modern pretty replicas that half of admires could have in our own bathrooms. Replication of Moroccan court using mixture of modern decor and stunning pieces of the past looks like beautifully illustrated old books augmented where the missing pages with new pages done in the same style. Profanation of idea in the whole glory. Rather silly.
Демократия как можно больше людей хотят приобщиться к искусству я благодарна за фильм просто смотрю языка не знаю,
Most -if not all - of the arts shown existed before the islamic invasion!
As a matter of fact they are pre-islamic.
Lmao
This art is not från islam .this art is from Iran
16. Century Turkish quartz tiles world in the best !
@@miraccanbakr9739 lol
Persian Greek Roman’s they inherited their knowledge basically from old Egyptian Phoenician and babilon in irak all are semetic tribes related to each other, even the main world religions are from semetic origin, Oman and Jemen have very old civilizations. The Arabs of today are the grand grand children’s of these tribes , Arabs from Mecca and Medina who defeated the persian Greek and Roman’s were very welcomed by the native people from Iraq till North Africa since they were ethnically and culturally as well as language wise very related.
no lol
Islam don't have art it is persian (Iranian) art.
Did you even watch the video !!💀
@@MFlare-ne4tcWhat the commenter above said is factually correct. Did you even watch the video? It literally exposes the same thing. LOL!
Talking about all the art shown in the film as Islamic art is the same as talking about the art of modernism, impressionism or post-impressionism as Christian art. Art critics of the 19th century were pathetic idiots who divided art according to the map and calendar, and not according to the morphology of its origin. It's time to stop this idiotic practice! Just because an image contains the Arabic alphabet does not mean that it is Islamic. In the Islamic country of Afghanistan, a monument depicting Buddha was carved into a rock. Everyone knows perfectly well what happened to him later - and this was done by people who consider themselves true followers of Islam. The very term “Islamic” or “Christian” or “Hindu” means one thing - religious doctrines. And if art does not follow the dictates of these doctrines, such a term cannot be applied to it.
correct
Too many very opinionated women.
The most steril unemotional bland stuff in the world of art.
better than any American art..... lol Washington Monument a tall pillar.
Your just jealous 😂