Niko, Johnnie, Gunther, and all the rest of the CineD crew are doing outstanding work. Thank you for all your efforts in conducting these tests, creating these databases, and making them available to the public. You are a HUGELY helpful resource for the filmmaking world.
Global shutters need time to read out the entire sensor just like rolling shutter sensors do. The ADC can only process a given number of (sub)pixels a second. They just have on board circuitry that makes the image capture happen all at once unlike a rolling shutter. So no, just because a camera has a global shutters doesn't mean that there is no sensor level limitation for higher frame rates. Also want to appreciate you guys for doing great work in acquiring objective data to fact check absurd DR claims and educate the filmmakers about the more important factor that is latitude.
Thank you SO much for the work you do! It’s truly a public service to everyone trying to make informed decisions about what can be very expensive purchases. Not to mention the tests hold the camera companies to account for what they claim. Kudos to you!!!’
I can confirm, the A9III has features Sony’s best sensor for video. It’s a wonderful camera to work with. I would like to see Sony address the corner distortion with IBIS that currently plagues wide lenses… So far only Panasonic has addressed this issue. Ideally, Sony could add open gate and internal raw… all of these features could be added via firmware update. The sensor, processor and cards are all easily fast enough,
Interesting, by the way Magic lantern totally reliable can record 4K 14 bit uncompressed with 12 14 years old cameras limit is 24P and 14 bit Un compressed 30P Open Gate at 1080, NO THIS OR NEXT YEAR, seems like manufacturers are holding features that already exist, By the way very interesting Focus check
The sensors are read out at 12 bit or sometimes even 10 bit in some older cameras. Producing a 14 bit uncompressed RAW is just wasteful of processing power and storage. That is like shooting 1080p video and exporting it in 4k. Another problem with those cameras is the readout speed. Most of those older cameras can't even do 24 fps full width readout in 12 bit. So they either drop the bit depth to 10 bit or take a substantial crop to deliver an acceptable frame rate.
@@jamesbridges1107 The latest version named Cropmood after a couple of years of using it, is as I said totally reliable, however is not for anyone you really need to know what you are doing.
Niko, Johnnie, Gunther, and all the rest of the CineD crew are doing outstanding work. Thank you for all your efforts in conducting these tests, creating these databases, and making them available to the public. You are a HUGELY helpful resource for the filmmaking world.
Such an important independent test in a wild west of inflated claims.
Global shutters need time to read out the entire sensor just like rolling shutter sensors do. The ADC can only process a given number of (sub)pixels a second. They just have on board circuitry that makes the image capture happen all at once unlike a rolling shutter. So no, just because a camera has a global shutters doesn't mean that there is no sensor level limitation for higher frame rates.
Also want to appreciate you guys for doing great work in acquiring objective data to fact check absurd DR claims and educate the filmmakers about the more important factor that is latitude.
Great discussion, thanks guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I really appreciate this video. Well done!
Great talk, learnt quite a few things, some important insights, so thanks guys, keep up the excellent work! Very much appreciated.
Great talk !
Hope for global shutter on S1HII in 2025 🙏🏼
Thank you SO much for the work you do! It’s truly a public service to everyone trying to make informed decisions about what can be very expensive purchases. Not to mention the tests hold the camera companies to account for what they claim. Kudos to you!!!’
I can confirm, the A9III has features Sony’s best sensor for video. It’s a wonderful camera to work with. I would like to see Sony address the corner distortion with IBIS that currently plagues wide lenses… So far only Panasonic has addressed this issue. Ideally, Sony could add open gate and internal raw… all of these features could be added via firmware update. The sensor, processor and cards are all easily fast enough,
I'm just glad Black Magic has good customer service in case issues arise. As long as they take care of it and it doesn't fail on set, we're set.
Very informative! 👍🏾🙏🏾 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
Glad it was helpful!
Test have really slowed down. I wanted to see thd test if the Nikon z6 iii camera that came out more than 6 months ago.
Have a look at the lab database! You will find it there!
Interesting, by the way Magic lantern totally reliable can record 4K 14 bit uncompressed with 12 14 years old cameras
limit is 24P and 14 bit Un compressed 30P Open Gate at 1080, NO THIS OR NEXT YEAR, seems like manufacturers are
holding features that already exist, By the way very interesting Focus check
The sensors are read out at 12 bit or sometimes even 10 bit in some older cameras. Producing a 14 bit uncompressed RAW is just wasteful of processing power and storage. That is like shooting 1080p video and exporting it in 4k.
Another problem with those cameras is the readout speed. Most of those older cameras can't even do 24 fps full width readout in 12 bit. So they either drop the bit depth to 10 bit or take a substantial crop to deliver an acceptable frame rate.
@@Wildridefilms Try ML if possible you get a Photographic 14 bit RAW Codec however watch how you work.
@@felipehenaovideo as I said, the final file is "14 bit RAW" but the sensor readout is in 12 bit at best, most likely 10 bit in those older cameras.
@@felipehenaovideo sure, just tell your client your software hack screwed up so the project needs to be reshot. That should go over really well.
@@jamesbridges1107 The latest version named Cropmood after a couple of years of using it, is as I said totally reliable, however is not for anyone you really need to know what you are doing.
Love my Burano
Dear Cinema 5D... The old Canon 5D Mark III could shoot Raw video in 14 Bit depth with the aid of Magic Lantern firmware.and looked awesome! Smile
True that... seems like a century ago ;)
@@CineD It does...