Why Dragon Ball Heroes newest episode looked so bad
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- This month has certainty has brought some interesting art style shifts within the Dragon Ball franchise, however Heroes most recent episode takes the prize for the most jarring of all.
So join me today as we delve into why this change was made, and why it simply looked so bad.
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Can't believe I live in a timeline where I say I miss how SDBH looked. I thought it couldn't get worse but here we are
SDBH had Peak Designs and sometimes good Animation but when it was good it Was Good👀
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For sure lmao
Ay, don't cap bro, I don't like SDBH but it definitely had some great art and animation at moments, such as Goku vs Hearts. I'd say the show was at its BEST in terms of consistent animation at the start. The prison planet arc was consistent, and it kept ToP quality animation for the most part. However, by the Gogeta vs Hearts fight, the animation quality had already began to drop.
Bro didn’t watch the video, it isn’t permanent, it’s cutscenes and models from the game while the 2d staff gets a WELL DESERVED break.
Bro they didn’t even bother updating Gohan’s model 😭
Well, they've been using it since 2003, might as well not fix what ain't broke.
@@FutureRevolut10naryIt is broke 💀 For animations like they it 100% is broke
@@Kaizoo2010 Not broke enough to rework for Heroes, apparently.
@@Kaizoo2010 DB Heroes don't care what broke and ain't broke,
Gohan and Piccolo did get new models, but it's only their DBS Super Hero versions.
This DBH episode is what people think DB super hero looks like
Oh yeah, especially before it came out, right after everyone was riding the high of DBS: Broly’s animation style.
This is how people swore DBS Superhero would look like before it actually came out lol.
People see 3d animation and no matter how great it looks they say it looks like this
@@artizzy2k2k 3d does not belong in anime
@@NatCo-Supremacist 3d is used in a lot of anime. Even past ones.
Glad Budokai 4 finally got released.
Does he mean Infinite World?
Budokai 5@@FutureRevolut10nary
@@Naruku2121 burst limit left the chat
To me Burst Limit was more like a Reboot of Budokai 1@@Father_Venti
Lol
The animation finally matched the shows quality
Funny af
honestly, story concept seems interesting, but was taken out by the cgi 😂
majin ozotto is a very obscure character and they chose to bring him into SDBH this way lol
Funny thing is, he was actually in the story before, but the anime never had him even though he was in the arcade and manga stories for the arc two years ago.
They should've put a notice out towards their fans that they were willing to test and "temporarily" staff anyone who was willing to help draw and animate some episodes (while some staff were out). Guarantee they wouldn't've had to resort to this b/c they would've had folks jumping at the hook just to help, some would've probably done it for free lol
Rookie animators (who are often fans) are commonly brought onto shows these days to help alleviate the pressure off the main team. However it often leads to creating more trouble than its worth due to there inexperience, such as Animation Directors having to completely redraw poorly done layouts, putting further work on there plate. As well as lack of general understanding to how the Japanese animation pipeline works, effecting other departments outside of just the animation team.
-twitter.com/nataflare/status/1718517559761478040
@@lollolsonIt would definitely be cool. Just unrealistic tho for an actual episode.
@@forgottenrelics1197Get the guys from dragon ball deliverance to do it. They’d put the actual professional animators working on it to shame.
I like 2004-era CHADhan.
Honestly I like it in a very strange way. It reminds of janky fan animations/machinima. It’s charming.
God, I love the limited 3D they used in this episode. It's so charming.
@@HiperPivociarz holy shit shencomix reference
Reminds me of Unrealentgaming's intro lol
When animators go on break, you 1) get the B-Team in, or better yet, 2) have the show go on break as well. In no scenario is "creating scenes using ugly low-polygon video game graphics" a good idea.
they fr used budokai 2 models bruh
looks like a fan animation too(no diss towards fans)
I swear when I saw the scene with Yamcha being sad I thought that Daitomodachi made it.
None taken, as one of the biggest CG acceptors my main source if disdain is when the models move amateurishly awkward, this is one of those
When you dont think you can be more disappointed just look at what the DB community has gone through this year
What do you mean? This year has been great for Dragon Ball so far. We got really cool DLCs for DB games, we got a MASSIVE announcement for a new Budokai Tenkaichi and FINALLY, we got announcement of a brand new series coming next year that actually looks promising. There really hasn't been much that has been negative in the DB space this year. Aside from this DB Heroes situation obviously.
reminder that db had basically zero content outside the games for well over a decade
we’ve gotten spoiled, a lull of content for a year or two doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things
@@MAHDI-kw4pr
-DBFZ is basically a dead game without the promised rollback netcode update
-DBS manga rehashing a movie from a couple months ago
-no DBS anime continuation
-no movie announced for the 40th anniversary
-I'm cautious about the new DB game since there's no details especially if cyberconnect 2 is making it
@@MAHDI-kw4prhold the f on - what looks promising about the new series??
@@turbotrup96Beautiful animation, new plot, going back to an adventure rather than the non-stop tournament arcs and mindless fighting. Reasons to watch the show that isn't "WHOA, GOKU GOT STRONGER".
I genuinely can't believe this they've done this.
This looks the same as how people described DBS' animation back in 2015.
Dragonball is milked like too much,it should have been left alone years ago.
This is all just a mess
They should have tried getting a small crew of animators or a small studio and animating over the models like with Superhero, still cheaper and wouldn't have been so jarring
At least now Heroes animation matches the shows quality🤣😂😄😀🙂😐🙁😧😥😣😞.... WTF!?!?
Part of me wonders if this might be due to Daima. They might have moved all of their 2D staff to work on that series since they've done something pretty new for the industry and have had 2 years worth of preemptive work done on DB Daima beforehand prior to its airing.
They might've just not had the staff available to work on the Heroes anime during that time, so they did...*this* instead.
I prefer the 2D animation over the 3D models but if you do follow people who talk about Heroes, it was stated that at least the 1st episode would be 3D (not sure about the rest)
At this point I think people just enjoy to complain about Heroes no matter how good or bad it is 🤷♂️
To be fair, they never mentioned it would be made up of in game cutscenes in either the stream or the promo art, so naturally the lack of quality came as a surprise to many.
@@forgottenrelics1197 not saying that the surprise is unvalid either, just said that the 3D animation was mentioned within the Heroes community for a while now (which many people don't follow for obvious reasons)
And SDBH still receives way too much for what it is ... Lost the amount of times people mocked me for enjoying it for what it is
In terms of quality the promotional anime has too many inconsistencies and Ultra God Mission had the worst animation by far, so not that surprised that Meteor Mission seems to be going the same route ... Hopefully the quality will improve but we have to wait and see
If the 2d animators are on break, just put it on pause.
On the brighter side, since this uses the budokai engine and likely all the models and assets (including the previously lost, unused models of the missing members of the ginyu force), there is a really high possiblity we'd see returning what-if characters like Cellin, vegeta absorbed buu and majin cell and friend returning. Characters exclusive to these games.
In fact Frieza's son Kuriza is in budokai 2 ! So the fact there is a chance (unlikely but still) is one positive for this negative news! ^^
Ripped DragonBall everything 😢1999-2023
DBZ ended in 1996. 1999 was when the Funimation dub started.
It's literally a cutscene from the game.
The anime staff is on break, it'll come back after a while.
ik, its what i mentioned in the vid
I stopped caring about Dragon Ball after the Black Zamasu arc so idk why they think i want this
I wonder if the people who modeled the characters for the Budokai games realized just how much mileage they'd get so many years from release
Probably the most lucrative models and assets made outside of the New Super Mario art that was reused ad nauseum
Ngl, this looks like a downgraded devilartimest video
Lowkey like the shitty ps2 graphics. Beats the shitty dbs style animation
They really took Yamamuro's opportunity to redeem himself as a good DBS artist
DBS artist? He's been on DB since the early 90's. 😂😂
@@jasonone8726 I think you didn't read carefully.
@scriptblox8100 Yes, I did. You referred to him as a DBS artist.
@@jasonone8726 Well you missed the point. I stated "redeem himself as a good DBS artist" which means he is a bad DBS artist. The point is that he is improving a lot in DB Heroes and Bandai took away his opportunity to push it further
@scriptblox8100 His art style has been the same for the last two decades. He hasn't improved in Heroes. It only looks slightly better than Super because that show had a rushed schedule in the beginning and throughout most of it until the TOP, which showed improvement. The animators didn't have much time.
I think CG can look good its just how you approach it. Its thought to be a lazy practice but Jojo proves you can have amazing looking cgi animation. It requires wffort and style just like normal animation. If toei did a David productions like CGI opening or episode i would probably die of happiness
DBS Super Hero exists
Definitely could, DBS Super Hero should be the standard for how 3D Anime should be executed--
Although controversial, DBS Super Hero was really well done, Animations actually felt impactful, The movement is snappy yet smooth,
The physics in movement and choreography is on point,
The blend of 2D and 3D Art-style works almost perfectly
@@stan52323 And Trigun Stampede
the 3d in jojo is terrible.
@@NatCo-Supremacist You don't get to disrespect the cgi in the JoJo openings
Insane these models are still being used almost 20 years later. Still look better than Xenoshit's models lol.
Look at Gohan modelnabd Goku you see tfry Ben updated and only Gohan is like years old
I saw this episode and I knew it had to be footage straight from the arcade machine. There was no way a production like this that was in 3D was pre rendered like your typical TV show. Too bad it looked so bad and animated so stiffly. Timing was also all off and nothing seemed right
they been lacking in animators cause they focusing on trash like one piece they should just drop that garbage
theyre not gonna do that so youll have to deal with it
Remember when people where complaining about the Dragon Ball Super Superhero CGI 😂
This was the first video I saw when I woke up today and I thought what I was seeing was still part of my dream 💀
I don’t really understand what the fuck is going on because we have animators, and teams drawing and making (whatever they do I have no idea) who have made 1080+ one piece episodes plus literal movies, the fact they need a “break” after making 7 minute episodes once every 3 months is just ridiculous I mean cmon, maybe someone here can let me know how big their team is to make these episodes but seriously the 2D team don’t need a break as they literally have 3 months to make a 7 minute fucking episode. The have made some good stuff, but honestly I was fine with 7 minute episodes every 2-3 months but with CG looking this bad and once every 3 months aswell until 2D team come back is just a dick move - let the fans at least know about this change - communication is key
One piece staff probably gets paid more
It’s because there not on an actual break. Rather there being re shuffled into more important projects. It’s just PR talk.
@@forgottenrelics1197and how do you know? Do you work with them?
Why is Dragonball Heroes looking like Budokai 3?
0:27 It was made in the same engine and is intended to be run on arcade machines.
Wait... Is that the villain from that old Punch-out-style DBZ arcade game?! I think his name was "Ozotto The Super Monster" or something to that effect.
To be honest, 3D animation could work on dragon ball
You just need a good 3D Art style though.
Look at dragon ball fighterz for example.
they take a WHILE to perfect though, theres a couple videos exp,aining how Adc Systems does it. From what im gathering in this video the 3d animators barely had tmie to do any real polish (typical nidustry bullshit who's suprised....) especially not anything substantial like what Arc Systems can do.
what a shit show this series is going through rn lol
1:26 Damn, well as a turn off brain individual this is interesting.
I have mastered the waysof fried processed brain powers 😎👌
You Accidentally Roasted The Design and said PS2 Game 😂
Was toei(or whomever) really so adamant about releasin new eps(even though theses shits have next to NO regular schedule & jus come out wheneves) that they ACTUALLY HAD TO resort to usin VIDEO GAMES!? not even jus CG, FUCKIN VGs!? I get it kinda makes sense cus this promotes a vg but like this is so odd. I've never seen a studio resort to this🤣🤣🤣
When i see it....i though it's a fan made...but when i realised like WTF HAPPEN TO MY SHOW I WAITED MONTHS FOR EVERY EPISODES FFS
First of all, Damn Gohan really just gets no respect. Second of all I feel like it's mostly the fault of the animation rather than the models on the looking not jank part
Oh for sure, the jank is definitely related more to the animation then the models themself
They could've just rendered it in Xenoverse 2 engine at least..
this shi look like one of the dbz ps2 games but with updated lighting 💀💀💀💀
Y'all tripping, it's toei animations that made this not Akira toriyama. This is just promotional anime not Canon. It looks weird sure but it's the stage right before using that same money to make actual anime. Dragon ball super was $200K an episode and Dragon ball daima looks better than this. Pay your respects to dragon ball now🎉
There were some arguably good moments in heroes
Goku vs heartz
Vegeta evil ki controlled ( fuck that name is stupid anyway )ssjblue
and even black coming back and reaching wathever ass pull that was
Its a horrible narrative, but it has its moments
But this ow god
Dude... Just... Just don't make a series if all you're gonna do is mash up a bunch of low render cut scenes from an arcade game, it literally the same as watching an "Zelda TotK full movie" on youtube
Bro the used the models of the game, if wich are basically the ones of Budokai 3 an Infinite World but with shaders, so you can say it has actual PS2 graphics xD
Also DB Daima was confirmed right before this
i also wanted the episodes to look better now that i see them but honestly as long as you dont have to pay for those episodes thats completly fine. maybe its just me thinking very foolishly but i was always interested in dragonball heroes as a kid and wanted to play it so badly so seeing those really rough animations from the arcade game kinda make me smile abit. ofc you still could have atleast try to make everything look abit cleaner its just my 10-12 year old me who thinks that these scenes are really cool because of nostalgia.
Wait is dragon ball heroes a show? Thought it was shorts animated for the mobile game
Isn't that character from a japanese exclusive arcade fighting game? That's an obscure reference.
actually.. im not really mindd with the animation, which is still can tell the stories....
but the camera choices/move ugh.... its bothering me.....
Aint no fucking way there’s now an official episode of a DB series with fucking Budokai models
i don't mind them switching to CGI.... Just wish it looked better XD
I don't follow Heroes, but I was shown this a few days ago... I just assumed on the spot that this was some kind of silly bit where they go meta and travel to some kind of Ps2 dimension or something. I mean, it looking intentionally crappy was the only reasonable explanation for official material looking like this, so I didn't give it a second thought. But this was played straight??? HOLY SHIT, really.
Looks like Shin Budokai CGI models.
Bring that man who made animation ask him hurry up come back why he is on break 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
You could kinda tell it was coming to a end they went from dropping it once a month to once every 3-4 months
The fighting looks stale as Hell, and something feels off about Vegeta's aura...
On the bright side people that thought the games weren't canon can cope now
The animation looks like is was straight ripped from RWBY, no hate tho
i'm just impressed it got worse, i watched the first few episodes and dropped them after noticing it was shit
I mean who really cares man it’s just heroes. It really doesn’t matter that much.
Daima`s gettin the attention
So they plucked a bunch of cutscenes and called it an episode.
Hope they get back to animating. Not even worth watching.
I’m just shocked people still watch heroes lol.
god damn and i thought boruto's anime was a disappointment
How can someone get access to those models they used for the cgi animation?
Literally the old budokai games😂
Why goku super didnt fuse with goku xeno? Imagine the supersaiyan 4 ultra instinct
Goku xeno want back to heal up so he can't join right now
0 Budokai fans in the comment. Sad.
why are we using the budokai models
PETITION TO MAKE DRAGON BALL LEGENDS ANIME !!
تقوله مياو يقولك خليها على لله*
got me 😂 0:58
It's like Xenoverse 1 on Intel HD 4000
Thank you been trying to figure it out I hate it
bro you should do a Kurapika vs Uvohin comparison between hxh 99 and 2011, also a gon vs genthru with the OVA footage and the remake one, the contrast is material for hourlong videos lmao
The models look way better than anything I've seen on the PS2 to PS3 edition that's for sure.
It's like if Budokai 4 (Not Tenkaichi) could have existed back then well at least in the cutscenes.
Eat that toxic fandom
Yeah, since Budokai to Infinite World they've kept that animation style in game which I never thought it would look like that but I'm glad and don't mind it however for the SDBHeroes anime promotion itself, I was just like wow this was something new, different, if not just unexpected entirely.
I personally don't mind it but I can see why others wouldn't like it and how it coild be annoying for some people through out prolonging... I mean if they just show one episode like that then fine, it's okay whatever but of they're gonna make an entire set of episodes on SDBH then it might suck and be tough for some people.
They should have used the ps5 engine
So it won't be reanimated as usual
This show always looked bad what're you tal- OH MY GOODNESS. CG??
So pretty much what you just trying to say is we should accept mediocrity
Nope, I'm explaining why it looked bad and thats it. Genuinely unsure how that was your takeaway.
This is so bad as an animated series lol
This looks just as or worse than the berserk 2016-17 anime
Definitely worse. However in fairness this is an arcade game cutscene.
Great quick video lol
please make a video talking about FLCL! the one from 2000's
when people say 3D animation isn't that bad I want to point at this and say that THIS is the equivalent of those rough looking 2D episodes
Most of the time 3D Animation isnt bad. A-1 Pictures, Ufotable and Mappa basically perfected CGI. Studio Bones is pretty good aswell.
@@OK-69420 I'm aware, I just like to be a hyperbolic asshat because I prefer 2d lmao
@@cia4u401 even over Studio Oranges CGI?
@@OK-69420 Yee, not that it's bad or anything, I just like 2D more.
@@OK-69420I've seen people also complain about Mappa CGI, like Attack On Titan.
Infinite World 2 🔥🔥🔥
I think it look kinda sick
If it's 3d so that animators can take a break, I'm all for it. Nobody really cares about SDBH anyways so. Let the animators rest so they make the stuff we like look good
And people thought DBS Superhero looks awful in computer animation.
SDBH isnt know for quality 2D animation either, anyway.
it isn't known for anything good except for fanservice, and even that feels rushed and cheap (like Janemba vs Buu-- remember that?).
It's like Super itself on steroids.
The 16th episode of new Jujutsu Kaisen. I'm pretty sure we have a pair of interesting moments over there. Yep, definitely we do.
One thing I like about this Budokai/Infinite world nostalgia it gives me
What episode is this ?
honestly is this really that different from how stiff and kind of boring a lot of the newer 2D animated heroes episodes looks