Jesus Movement 2.0: Episode 1: Ron Juncal & John Ruttkay:

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  • @rogerrabbit5014
    @rogerrabbit5014 Год назад +29

    I live in West Michigan and I was called 27 years ago out of the world by Christ. The area we live in has dozens of churches, all shapes and denominations, but they ALL do the same thing on Sunday mornings. They sing a couple songs, give announcements, take an offering and then the same people speak week after week. My wife and I became grieved in the Spirit after a few years and one day we showed up at our beloved church and we literally could not open the car doors to get out. After trying several times we decided to pray and ask God what’s going on. I bowed my head and I heard God say “why do you go here”, I said I love the people, I love the teachings and the worship and I went thru a list of what I considered great things and reasons. Then God said “ it’s all a substitute for me”, I was shocked and I lifted my head and looked at my wife and she said I don’t think we were supposed to go here anymore. So we left this wonderful fellowship of several thousand people and after a month of searching we found a small church 65 miles away where they let The Holy Spirit have His way. It was incredible to see the people come in hurting and hungry and see them getting touched, changed and healed.

    • @corina77
      @corina77 Год назад +4

      I’m in West MI too! Can you share what church you’re going to? I would love to check it out.

    • @rexsheeley8177
      @rexsheeley8177 Год назад +3

      43 years ago Jesus called me am now 63. My wife and I have been married 41 years we have 11 grown children. We too experienced your situation. Jesus should us the Bride and the Bridegroom are not there. In a very clear dream.

    • @srivera6111
      @srivera6111 Год назад +2

      We’re in west Michigan & cannot continue to be Sunday morning pew warmers. That is not Gods plan. Maybe you could share your church with us 🙏😊

    • @ronjuncal4680
      @ronjuncal4680 Год назад

      Such an awesome testimony! It is so typical of the biblical stories where we have to make decisions about our understanding of God.
      When Jesus came to this world he dropped the plumb line on this very thing! Will you cling to the past when God comes in a new and fresh way. The basic crossroads of the simple , adventurous life in Christ or the traditions if men who can't understand the humble Jesus because he comes in a package we don't understand.
      Nicodemus comes to mind in this epic battle of Truth and religion.

  • @andyrobinson5829
    @andyrobinson5829 Год назад +2

    I was birthed into the KOG, Kingdom of God, 1971 part of the Jesus Freak Movement on the east coast. What do us "Old Believers" who have seen the marvels fo God back then DO KNOW? He is beginning to reveal himself to another generation! I want to see God Break out again@!

  • @andyrobinson5829
    @andyrobinson5829 Год назад +2

    Wow! I re-listened to this video. . . you guys are correct. Outside the "organized church" is the real body of Christ. Relational NOT heirarchial!!! Friendship / Descipleship - Organic Growth out of our Love for Christ and what he has and is doing in our lives!!!!

  • @acts29today
    @acts29today Год назад +7

    Right on I came out of the Jesus movement saved 1972 after a revelation on the beach in San Diego as a drug dealer went through the shepherding movement and vineyard to then the prosperity pirates 😂 then left the building completely when I discovered we are the church, did mission ministries in many countries for years now living in Thailand and connecting the dots for the people here 😮 blessings the church has left the building 😂😂

    • @JesusMovement2.0
      @JesusMovement2.0  Год назад +4

      our friend daniel adams is doing or just did a revival in Thailand! People looked hungry out there for Jesus ! They were getting wrecked in the videos !

    • @acts29today
      @acts29today Год назад +2

      @@JesusMovement2.0 yeah that’s right we are working outside the systems of the organization standards being as opposed to just going to church making a huge difference and being a Buddhist country lots of challenges but no problem for the Holy Spirit power keep on keeping on God bless

    • @pstudio2
      @pstudio2 7 месяцев назад +1

      Stand strong in your adventure in Him!

  • @jaanabanana7048
    @jaanabanana7048 Год назад +7

    I feel tearful in my heart watching this video (but also joyous and hopeful!) hearing the testaments of people who truly experienced what “discipleship”, “ministry”, and “the body of Christ” feel like, the pure impact of it, and how it contrasts to what we have as churches and ministries today.
    I’m considered a millennial. Was raised a Christian from an early age, but while growing up, I’ve always noticed the disparity of what the bible says a follower of Jesus looks like verses how most churches operate... Which is why I hadn’t placed importance in attending a physical church, and would only watch tv/online sermons. Perhaps (and unfortunately) it made me a passive believer for many years, till I encountered a newfound understanding of my salvation back in 2020.
    Being a hungry believer is difficult, especially when we are made for community but find none with the same hunger. I’ve struggled in times of isolation, wondering what it’d be like around passionate believers, who are enacting God’s character and working towards serving His ministry actively. But that’s why I’m so excited at the shift we’re seeing. I also believe a revival of Spirit is on the brink of happening, and I’ve been praying to be apart of it.
    I was a distracted believer before all of this, but right before the Asbury revival happenings, I felt God calling me out of my distractions to watch and wait. Through that, I feel that I see Him working on this generation to make a powerful movement, and thus have been fasting/praying He’d make me a part of it.
    This is a lot to read, but I just thank you for sharing your testimonies, as I’ve felt greatly blessed by it. God bless the both of you and your families! These are troubling times, but God is on the move 🙏🏻

  • @garymcgoff6946
    @garymcgoff6946 Год назад +3

    more more more; more Fire

  • @AV-gu3cu
    @AV-gu3cu Год назад +1

    God bless you Brother John and Brother Ron . Yes, I bear witness to your words on how the days are Short the days of the Parousia are upon us. Gathering us in our homes where the Fire of Gods Open Heaven Dwells. Maranatha

    • @ronjuncal4680
      @ronjuncal4680 Год назад

      These are powerful moments in God's Church and its important for each cell of the Body to band together in Spirit and create a gentle network where believers can find unity in spirit.

  • @joeesposito9772
    @joeesposito9772 2 года назад +8

    Some good stuff. Let's walk in the light of His countenance. Another dot connector. Lets be about it. Love u2

  • @cherylrightnour9918
    @cherylrightnour9918 Год назад +3

    You guys are blessed to have that- wish we did & our kids too 😔🙏🏼

  • @rogerheltonmusic
    @rogerheltonmusic Год назад +4

    Yes, Resonating!

  • @kevinegly6388
    @kevinegly6388 Год назад +14

    I just saw the Jesus revolution a few hours ago. Great movie. I was 16 when I received Jesus in 1971. I have been effected by the Jesus Movement, vineyard, Charismatic renewal and word of faith. Was a pastor for awhile. I am now 67. I stumbled across this this evening and it spoke to my heart. Thank you for posting. I am going to listen to the three episodes. Pray that at 67 I can still reach people for Jesus. I love the church universal but the church “Organization has organized God right out of our services. I want to see Holy Spirit move in the body once more and ALL peoples gifts be functional in the church universal again. I want to be part of that again. I want to be that Sheppard that lets Holy Spirit have reign in his body and see a body of believers demonstrating the love of God to one another and to the world around us.

    • @jodie9700
      @jodie9700 Год назад +2

      I totally agree with what you said , I feel the same way so hungry for the lord to move once more before he returns ,which by the way is not far off, feel'n it bro .

    • @nancyallor476
      @nancyallor476 Год назад

      Oh you will! In the year 2000 the Lord starting showing me that a Third wave would come and it would bring His Glory in a move unseen and bigger than all the past visitations!
      Rick Joyner got a vision of it and it in May 2000 called
      It the Revolution! He wrote about it in his magazine.
      I asked if it was true and fir 23 years I was given old books describing
      HOW MIRACULOUS this last great move would be to bring in the great world HARVEST. God will use the young people and undergird them with the older stable still on fire for God ready Warriors, teachers, wise and wonderful faithful ones, with good hearts , pastor and caring souls to encourage and help these new souls for Christ! The prophets tell us that this Glory time is advancing! I also was given a vision of the dark times too. You are SO needed and will be used. I was in the 70s and the wonderful Jesus movement! I was told when I was 11 that I would be part of the end years, in a vision. We were born for such a time as this! The Glory will rock every nation!
      Miracles so wild! Millions are about to be saved! Get in the word and roll up your sleeves! It will be Gods greatest time to show up and show off. We just come along to assist!!!

  • @hamprepper
    @hamprepper Год назад +5

    WE Need yall to document as much as possible before any of yall move on to the next phase of life (aka GLORY!). Please as we can learn from yall about how to embrace the next BIG move of The Holy Sprit! God Bless You, Hamp

  • @padrejohnruffle
    @padrejohnruffle 2 года назад +20

    "I've always been a nobody but always been with somebody.." -John Ruttkay, 11:51 Wow, now that defines my life. Wonderful, and honestly, I've no regrets! Thanks Ron & John.
    "I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked." - Psalm 84:10.

  • @JulieMelberg
    @JulieMelberg Год назад +3

    Thank you for the wisdom you grew into. The richest church I've ever experienced was a home church. Growing in Christ together, having fun times together like meals, opportunities to minister outside the walls, play time like game nights and drawing others into that, praying over our homes, etc. So many good things.

    • @pstudio2
      @pstudio2 7 месяцев назад

      I pray your walk is increasing and you have found others who are hungry

  • @deanastanton4657
    @deanastanton4657 Год назад +2

    Powerful statement "I've always been a nobody but always been with somebody" Sure can relate to that. And looking forward to what the Lord leads. Thank you, for your words on the Pastor. So good.

  • @becktimmons9116
    @becktimmons9116 Год назад +3

    I’m so thankful for fathers in the faith. As a 23 year old youth pastor in Texas this speaks deeply to me.

  • @jessicamartinez3613
    @jessicamartinez3613 Год назад +1

    Amen to everything you said! We need the book of Acts church! We need the Holy Spirit and not quench Him.

  • @cramster1
    @cramster1 Год назад +2

    Love you guys and all you’re doing and saying 😊

  • @Caderdi
    @Caderdi Год назад +7

    Thanks brothers, this is so encouraging. I visited a house meeting one time when I was 14 years old, a freshman in High School in 1974. I didn't go back because, well I was 14 so I didnt drive. I didn't get saved until I was 19 but was never satisfied with any church after that just because of the stuff that didn't really matter was everywhere, and I think you know what I mean. I just couldn't get that simpler, organic gathering out of my heart. I've been having house meetings on and off for 35 years. I recently started up again in the fall 2022. I just felt in my spirit this is going to be the new normal going forward. Please pray for me and the little " Church that meets at Diana's House". I just recently saw your video on Lonnie. I'd love to connect with you all. I'm in Columbus, Ohio area.
    Jesus is still Lord
    And there is still only One Way.
    Im 63, I still want to RUN with what God is doing.
    Any advice would be welcomed.

    • @NinaStone63
      @NinaStone63 Год назад +1

      Where in the Columbus area are you? I have a 27 year old son who lives in Bellefontaine.

    • @ronjuncal4680
      @ronjuncal4680 Год назад +1

      Praise God for you! This simple testimony is being played over and over as God's People begin finding one another organically.
      It is exactly what I experienced in 1970. People all over the world bonding together in small pockets and searching for one another as we would with lost loved ones.
      Press into whatever networks are encouraging to your process. Stay true to a pure and simple heart toward God and from time to time make the trip to one of these larger gatherings for encouragement and support.
      Bless you in your journey and pass it along, others need to hear your voice.

    • @johnruttkay8612
      @johnruttkay8612 Год назад

      Yes brother keep moving forward. Seek the Lord while He may be found.

  • @cherylrightnour9918
    @cherylrightnour9918 Год назад +3

    Exactly what I’ve been saying & wanting- is coming together- not just sitting in a church- you go in & then you go out- but as a Tribe sorta speak- to learn to grow- experience God & Holy Spirit- not just church! It’s hard to find that 😔

  • @erikaavalos7894
    @erikaavalos7894 Год назад +3

    I’m 9 min into this conversation and I’m crying already… desperation inside is saying yes! 🔥

  • @Fl0wer1001
    @Fl0wer1001 6 месяцев назад

    Nobody is everywhere but Jesuslove ❤

  • @jodie9700
    @jodie9700 Год назад +11

    Thank you for your words,you are gorgeous the both of you. I would like to share a word with you that I believe was from the lord , about ten years ago I was watching a video about the Jesus movement, and I heard the lord say I am going to do that again but this time it's going to be even greater. Now I believe it's started and all you pioneers will be ushered back into the scene to help create this new wineskin . It is so true , Christianity is not a competition of who is the greatest or who gets more numbers or money it is supposed to be about family and serving one another. So get ready guys the body of Christ needs you . I would really like your thoughts on this lots of love Jodie.

    • @johndoherty9992
      @johndoherty9992 Год назад +1

      Sorry, but my Bible says that there will be a great 'falling away '. This is what I'm seeing.

    • @ronjuncal4680
      @ronjuncal4680 Год назад

      Jodie,
      Please continue to pray with us about this ingatgering that is once again sweeping the earth. Yes, there will be a falling away but those will be the ones who are in it for the smoke machines and special people.
      Stand fast in what you were shown, sister. And find a spiritual network that draws you deeper into relationship with believers of like mind.

  • @TheBelovedDisciple144
    @TheBelovedDisciple144 2 года назад +13

    Fire on these young men of God

  • @monabellem
    @monabellem Год назад +2

    AMEN!

  • @TheRevivalChannel
    @TheRevivalChannel Год назад +3

    Wow, everything you guys are saying resonates on the inside of my spirit.
    The Holy Spirit really needs to kick down all four walls of the church in these days we're living in.
    I'm looking forward to listen to episode two and every other episode that you guys put up.
    I'd like you to talk more about the nuts and bolts of how we the cash cows for the corrupt church leaders can transition from the corporate, hyper controlled religious system that we now have to the living body of Christ, where every joint has a song or a word or something to contribute.
    I've been hearing for decades that the day of the big I's and the little U's are over but I don't see that happening yet. Please talk more about how we can transition from the machine known as the modern Church to the living Church.
    I was high on Angel best when I got saved unexpectedly in New Jersey. In my early days as a Christian there were no mega churches. You could talk to your pastor. Today most pastors are hiding from their sheep 🐑🐏🐑🐑🐑.

  • @kennethhettinger3577
    @kennethhettinger3577 11 месяцев назад

    This is so Good and true we had groups and meals together all the time to Just grow In Jesus!!

  • @rhondadillon9158
    @rhondadillon9158 Год назад +3

    How do you start a home church community 🤔. I track with every thing you are saying. Yes thank you for posting with wisdom and discernment. I was born again in early 80's raised up in a Christian home so to speak. But I truly didn't meet Jesus until 1983 I have experienced all the things you talked about. I am outside the church walls unable to connect back with the religious spirits that are inside the church. But I love the church, the body of Christ 🙏🙌🙏🙌🙏
    I was hosting a prayer call 2 time a week until about possibly 6 months ago now. I recognize we need to steward this movement for such a time as this. Standing at the crossroad 🧍‍♀️

  • @cdaubert1782
    @cdaubert1782 Год назад +1

    Amen! Brothers, thank you for sharing - this resonates so much in my spirit- The Lord called us out of the corporate gathering years ago and my husband and I started a house church. We’re still growing in this, as we all are, but I’m so encouraged to hear this truth being echoed by others that are sensing what the Lord is doing.

  • @lcasale
    @lcasale Год назад +6

    You both are speaking my language and everything you are saying is deeply resonating and in line with what the Lord has impressed on me in regards to the church system. OH, that we would all return to our "First Love" and go back to the old foundations of our faith. Thank you again for all you are sharing!

  • @sophoslife
    @sophoslife Год назад +1

    Thank you for this guys.

  • @lisao1186
    @lisao1186 Год назад +2

    Couple of cool wise guys. Lots to gleen!

  • @paulkeniston5699
    @paulkeniston5699 Год назад +3

    Glory Be to God in His People. I believe the voice of the Church is mostly heard Off of a Platform and in the daily encounters Christians have with people. We are each a Living Epistle designed to be know and read by all men. The anointed teachers and pastors and prophets and apostles are given to equip this grassroots expression of the gospel. The Holy Spirit is the best and most effective governor of the saints

  • @darlaheflin9227
    @darlaheflin9227 Год назад +6

    This is so good! We began a house church in 2020 in pursuit of Jesus and wanting t to see the relational instead of hierarchal. The five fold ministry is so vital! Many churches and pastors don’t want a five fold operating. But I like what John said... a new wine skin is forming! 🙌🏼🤍🕊✝️🔥 So refreshing to hear this from this generation! Exciting times.

  • @raebeebe6325
    @raebeebe6325 9 месяцев назад

    Ron, so good to see you here. Ive been listening to stories about Lonnie's life, and thinking, "My, he sounds alot like Ron Juncal, who is also an artist. I'm so glad to see you continuing the move of God 2.0. Be being blessed my friend!

  • @Misskitty15
    @Misskitty15 Год назад +3

    You are describing what I have been longing for & searching for! However, I have a couple of obstacles...
    1) Haven't met anyone else who feels this way in my area.
    2) I ain't young anymore and wonder just what can I do at this point....am praying...
    3) health issues but still believe in healing, God’s word is Truth!
    Never even seen a mighty move of God altho He has made His presence, grace & mercy known to me.
    Am born again, Baptised and filled but pretty much bed bound so opportunities are very limited as well as experience & no spiritual leaders or fellowship.
    Any ideas?
    I really want more. Not satisfied!
    Been trying a church & after hearing you, it's like you which is why I've never had a church but really would like fellowship.
    After I saw the movie, Jesus Revolution, I was like WOW!!!
    I wish I had known about & now maybe it's too late?
    I do sense that God is up to something...I try to talk to the young ppl but I don't know how to reach them...😢

    • @JesusMovement2.0
      @JesusMovement2.0  Год назад +1

      try to make it to the Jesus Gathering in san diego next month ! www.TheJesusGathering.org

    • @Misskitty15
      @Misskitty15 Год назад +1

      @@JesusMovement2.0 I'll need a miracle!

  • @robertlester4569
    @robertlester4569 Год назад +2

    Thank you guys. I'm so hungry for authentic Christianity. Praying about coming to your gathering in April.

  • @likudra7110
    @likudra7110 Год назад +3

    Amen! Brothers!

  • @pilotblueca007
    @pilotblueca007 Год назад +3

    Jesus is king ❤😂🎉😮😮😊😮😢🎉😂❤

  • @c4ward1
    @c4ward1 Год назад +3

    I think I wrote something to John Ruttgay on the gentleman singing Kieth Green. I’m praying John Ruttgay reads it. But I put it in God’s hands. I’m a middle age who has difficult time with posting.

  • @waltersantosdoowop
    @waltersantosdoowop 2 года назад +3

    Hey brother John, great to see you, I agree and I am praying alongside you, I am Pastoring a small Christian fellowship here in NJ by the sea. Eph 3:14-21 < < < < <

    • @ronjuncal4680
      @ronjuncal4680 2 года назад

      Thanks for your comment. Please continue to connect as we network for the Kingdom together.

    • @TheRevivalChannel
      @TheRevivalChannel Год назад

      I was high on angel dust when I got saved in New Jersey back in 1975. I grew up mostly in Long Branch.
      Back then there were no mega churches. I went to a lot of home fellowships I believe it helped me to continue with my walk with the Lord.
      God bless you with your work in New Jersey.

  • @patandwindy6268
    @patandwindy6268 2 года назад +3

    Writing you from HongKong. Just want to say it's good to see you guys. Nice to speak of those issues of what happened, what should happen, but it appears to me that it's 11:59 on the clock and there are a zillion "believers" but few Disciples. And it's not enough to pursue cerebral or emotional mania like millions of lemmings do in the NAR, but to bear FRUIT that remains, to be TRANSFORMED. Not just tweak one or 2 slices of a complex 20-slice wheel, but to surrender ALL and be ye mature and GO YE! Amen!

  • @baileygracehinzo
    @baileygracehinzo Год назад +2

    Amen amen amen!!!

  • @webshepherd1852
    @webshepherd1852 Год назад +3

    Ron where were you at in northern California? I ministered at Calvary Chapel of Chico in the 80s.

  • @lookup1542
    @lookup1542 2 года назад +8

    Praise the Lord. I'm excited to see the Holy Spirit moving and the younger generation on fire in Jesus. God bless you both.

  • @brookie991boo
    @brookie991boo 2 года назад +7

    Bless you both 😊

  • @shanemiller1894
    @shanemiller1894 2 года назад +5

    Love you guys!

  • @jonmarkbaker
    @jonmarkbaker 2 года назад +8

    Everything you are saying is what God is doing in our house church network in Detroit. I would love to get in touch with you guys via email if that's at all possible. Blessings to you brothers.

  • @joseortega-betancourt7373
    @joseortega-betancourt7373 Год назад +3

    Thank You, this needs to be a daily podcast...time is short

  • @matsswede
    @matsswede Год назад +2

    Realy exiting to listening to you just sad that here where i live understand this. Everyone is so focused on traditional church buisness.

  • @Fl0wer1001
    @Fl0wer1001 6 месяцев назад

    The problems of the univers is deeper than most ppl are able to reconize on some days we feel it very strong

  • @keithbryan4re
    @keithbryan4re Год назад +2

    Thank you for sharing. So blessed by your stories, insight, and encouragement. God bless you, John and Ron.

  • @markstroh7358
    @markstroh7358 Год назад +3

    Aloha John and Ron so good to hear your contributions. I don’t know if you have seen the Jesus Revolution movie yet but I think they did Lonnie a good shake and we’re honest about his clashes with Chuck but they didn’t bring up any of Lonnie’s “issues”-Danny Lehmann

  • @mikeoc217
    @mikeoc217 Год назад +3

    Thanks again for another great sermon. I get a bit confused when y'all talk of the $ changers. It is biblical that the Lord asks for your first fruit. I mean that's why Cain 💀 Able cause he knew he didn't give his best & was jealous. I look at it differently I guess. Everything I have is a gift from God. So I tithe to my small church. My rational is better to have 90% blessed then 100% cursed. I donate for their mission trips & other causes as well. I always keep a spare check in my pocket In case of a guest speaker so I can help his or her cause. I enjoy giving to my church. I also donate to different ministries I listen to. It takes $ to keep the lights on so if I can help... I know it is abused I live in deep Dixie now & there are some doozies down this way. They brag of owning multiple Boeing jets and chastise their flock for not coughing up more $! 👹 It does get nuts. Anyhow I love listening to y'all cause I know that whole era y'all were birthed outta was a pure love for Jesus. 🙏😇

  • @danevosler
    @danevosler Год назад

    This is right on time

  • @sidv192
    @sidv192 Год назад +2

    A sit down with the elders?? Count me IN😁

  • @GraemetheGuiriLordHaHa
    @GraemetheGuiriLordHaHa Год назад +3

    Good talk.

  • @nancymarco8476
    @nancymarco8476 Год назад +1

    Wow! So good

  • @jsean13
    @jsean13 2 года назад +3

    Loved this!

  • @manclimbtree3622
    @manclimbtree3622 Год назад

    Love this channel!!

  • @ieuancilgwri3230
    @ieuancilgwri3230 2 года назад +6

    Bless you both and your God given mission. Discipleship is in all our hands and it’s for sharing! ❤

    • @ronjuncal4680
      @ronjuncal4680 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your reply of encouragement. Please stay tuned

  • @MadlyinLovewithJesus-1953
    @MadlyinLovewithJesus-1953 Год назад +2

    I lived in Texas when the Jesus Revolution started -- was not a churchgoer -- and heard NOTHING about it. Instead, I heard all about Charles Manson. The ONLY indication I can remember of being aware of the movement was the term "Jesus freaks" and visiting California in 1970 and someone who picked us up hitchhiking kept talking about things being "righteous," which sounded Christian to me. That's it. That is just about ALL I heard until this year (and I'm turning 70 this year). Shows how much the media affects that we know and what we do NOT know...!

  • @stephanosdoulos
    @stephanosdoulos 8 месяцев назад

    ‘Need to make a Lonnie movie, and make it raw, explosive, like the Spirit’s effect on Lonnie. Tell the whole unvarnished truth. Millions will relate.

  • @matsswede
    @matsswede Год назад +3

    Let me ask you something. The way the church works today is that how God wants it ? I mean theres not many peaple saved today thrue todays church. As soon as the churches has been established as a church and try to bottle up God he disapear. Thrue history over and over again same story...When Lonnie left calvery shapel and they closed the dores to the church revival ended.

  • @marykaepalloni1282
    @marykaepalloni1282 Год назад +1

    Today, many churches have home gatherings and they're calling them home groups or life groups. These are folks you learn to do life with. It's more intimate. During Covid, I was hearing that I was to start stock piling bibles because there will be folks coming to our home and we will need Bibles for them. I have no idea what will happen. I feel like I will really miss the corporate gathering. In the Bible, they still had temple, the places of higher learning. I feel like both are needed. Having said that, I do want Holy Spirit to lead and guide me to wherever the new wine skins is will take me.
    Question: What do you guys do about tithing?

    • @johnruttkay8612
      @johnruttkay8612 Год назад

      We give to our local houses that we meet at and we encourage people to give as the Lord leads to those in need

  • @stephanosdoulos
    @stephanosdoulos 8 месяцев назад

    I suppose that it could be said that the paradigm for today’s organized Christianity is the Judaism of the time of Jesus! It was orthodox and Biblical, but those people of the Bible rejected Jesus; and, what’s more: how hard it was even for Paul to come out of his native religion!!!

  • @elainemarlett2550
    @elainemarlett2550 Год назад

    Are you guys speaking against God's organized church???

    • @j7489
      @j7489 Год назад

      They aren’t at all. Listen carefully.

  • @craigertlmaier9113
    @craigertlmaier9113 Год назад

    Jesus movement ended in 333ce as Nazarene Jewish Christianity on Amazon confirms. This makes him a false Messiah like the others Rabban Gamaliel mentioned in Acts chapter 5 33-39.