How to Build a Supersonic Trebuchet

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
  • What do you get when you combine ancient designs with modern engineering? An exciting new way to convert time and money into heat and noise! I'm not sure whether to call this a catapult or a trebuchet, but it's definitely the superior siege engine.
    3d drawing of the arm: grabcad.com/library/supersoni...
    Simulation tool: github.com/Ennsye/CDT
    Instruction manual for the simulation tool: www.overleaf.com/read/ftdshxy...
    There are several safety problems present in this video. I would hope it goes without saying, but the lack of eye protection and proximity to the line of fire while cranking are bad ideas. Don't do that.
    Errata: at 14:00, I say 1/66. The actual value is 1/32. This doesn't affect the speed measurement, but reflects an error in the video editing.

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  • @smartereveryday
    @smartereveryday 2 года назад +6863

    This is going to be fun. Looking forward to working with you.

    • @moldy_banana5015
      @moldy_banana5015 2 года назад +258

      Looking forward to seeing the video!

    • @sirdickons2779
      @sirdickons2779 2 года назад +112

      @@moldy_banana5015 Beware the foreskin walker 😳🚬 It took my dog 🐕

    • @themadscientest
      @themadscientest 2 года назад +89

      Heck yes supersonic trebuchet vs supersonic baseball needs to happen!

    • @agamijonathan
      @agamijonathan 2 года назад +9

      How fun!

    • @thehulkyman
      @thehulkyman 2 года назад +6

      Can't wait for the vid!

  • @themeatpopsicle
    @themeatpopsicle 10 месяцев назад +566

    "An exciting new way to convert time and money into heat and noise" is a really outstanding phrase

    • @MP-vc4nu
      @MP-vc4nu 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ah so this is how it was before supersonic missiles was invented

    • @David-wu4vl
      @David-wu4vl 7 месяцев назад

      Like Bitcoin

  • @TomStantonEngineering
    @TomStantonEngineering 10 месяцев назад +1770

    Wow! Finally the YT algorithm showed me this masterpiece! I was running simulations to build a supersonic trebuchet around the same time you posted this video, however I found it to be near impossible (I think my simulations used a counterweight), but hearing that sonic boom was insane. Would love to see some high speed footage of this thing launching!

    • @parkeryj3135
      @parkeryj3135 10 месяцев назад +7

      Love your content Tom, thanks for putting out quality content!

    • @richardb4313
      @richardb4313 10 месяцев назад +8

      Tom, I wasn't paying attention when I clicked on this from the side bar, and I assumed RUclips had simply served me your latest video! Took a few seconds of "hey, that's not his voice"

    • @snarevox
      @snarevox 10 месяцев назад +20

      i wonder why le algorithm is bringing this around again now?? i just got it too.. do you think something happened to get the video back into rotation as it were, or is it showing up based purely off of our own search/subscription activity??
      i feel like its something internal and unrelated to our actions as users.

    • @MalgumMusic
      @MalgumMusic 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@snarevox Just found this today and super glad

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  10 месяцев назад +60

      Hey Tom! Love your channel. Yeah, this would be really hard using a counterweight at such a small length scale. If I was trying to do that, my first guess would be to increase the angular stroke to some huge number and run it in a vacuum, but it's maybe possible to do with multiple arms in series? Haven't done any serious study of those machines. Triggering would be very tricky of course.

  • @thethoughtemporium
    @thethoughtemporium 9 месяцев назад +618

    Can't believe I'm just seeing this. This is rad. The crack when it fires is wild

    • @trminer1
      @trminer1 9 месяцев назад +1

      same

    • @Bruno-cb5gk
      @Bruno-cb5gk 9 месяцев назад +6

      looks like there was another wave of recommendations of this video, really glad I came across it because it's a masterpiece

    • @leandrogoethals6599
      @leandrogoethals6599 8 месяцев назад

      Do a video togetther that would be so cool

    • @Arcae95
      @Arcae95 7 месяцев назад

      so cool to see you seeing this

    • @nedisawegoyogya
      @nedisawegoyogya Месяц назад

      Yknow, whem math is mathing

  • @zachsowell8845
    @zachsowell8845 10 месяцев назад +1711

    I can’t get over how dangerous being at the business end of this thing cranking up that much potential energy is.

    • @0bucklin
      @0bucklin 10 месяцев назад +122

      I know! where are the safety squints!

    • @getahanddown
      @getahanddown 10 месяцев назад +73

      Then he touches it lol.

    • @angusmatheson8906
      @angusmatheson8906 10 месяцев назад +48

      Loaded it before cranking too. 5he c4ank should maybe be at the other end lolol

    • @thefreese1
      @thefreese1 10 месяцев назад +35

      Agree ... i would think that a 12v wench with a battery would be a much safer proposition... but it wouldn't have fit tje budget unless he could scrounge a used one cheap.

    • @annoyed707
      @annoyed707 10 месяцев назад +60

      "12 volt wench"? So that's what they call those now...

  • @Hamporkchop
    @Hamporkchop 2 года назад +1417

    So incredible that it's powered by rubber! JoergSprave would be proud!

    • @PatrickKQ4HBD
      @PatrickKQ4HBD 2 года назад +112

      I immediately produced a deep belly laugh when I heard that first supersonic crack.
      AAHA HA HA HA!

    • @jacobdavidcunningham1440
      @jacobdavidcunningham1440 2 года назад +120

      let me show you its features

    • @HiberNAT
      @HiberNAT 2 года назад +40

      So I added a bunch of pulleys here, and bualah hOAHOAHOAHOA WE GOT HUAHUAHOA A 9MM SPEED COMPARABLE handheld trebuchet legolini

    • @just1689
      @just1689 2 года назад +25

      Joerg, we would like one with a magazine and a pull back to reload mechanism please

    • @just1689
      @just1689 2 года назад +9

      Maybe a sight for targeting high value targets on the battle field

  • @BallisticHighSpeed
    @BallisticHighSpeed 7 месяцев назад +114

    Hey David! We specialize in capturing super-sonic object with our high-speed cameras. We'd be happy to get some incredible footage of this!

    • @johnsimons92
      @johnsimons92 7 месяцев назад +3

      Hurray! Have been waiting for this ever since @davideade8692 posted the video first.

    • @Urartus
      @Urartus 7 месяцев назад

      Let's go guys! Make this happen 💪🏻🙌🏻@@johnsimons92

    • @travis1043
      @travis1043 6 месяцев назад +3

      Love your channel guys!

  • @yokowan
    @yokowan 2 года назад +310

    i love how you go into the proper engineering process instead of oversimplifying everything and jumping straight into the build like a lot of big youtubers who optimize for mass appeal

    • @trif55
      @trif55 2 года назад +24

      Yea, I wish this was an advert for an engineering degree, I've never really seen the engineering design process explained like this, or used so effectively! As markserbu said above, sadly the most common encounter with someone who knows those formulae and the process is the least able to apply them or communicate them effectively! I'm sure you will go on to do great things!

    • @yokowan
      @yokowan 2 года назад +3

      @@trif55 yeah! I really wish I had this guy as one of my professors. the same content is so much less engaging when you're just having formulas read at you

    • @MrSurrealKarma
      @MrSurrealKarma 2 года назад +1

      You're kinda making that sound like a bad thing, the simplification.

    • @yokowan
      @yokowan 2 года назад +11

      @@MrSurrealKarma simplifying things allows the content to reach a wider audience, which is great in its own right, but i personally enjoy deep dives like this a lot more

    • @Imaboss8ball
      @Imaboss8ball 10 месяцев назад +3

      A lot of big RUclipsrs just guess and do things through trial and error. I'm personally surprised that he did actual engineering and got the results correct on the first try.

  • @flechette3782
    @flechette3782 7 месяцев назад +21

    As an aerospace engineer that graduated in 1997, I am jealous that you young un's get to do all this with such great tools. It looks like playing a video game. Calculating this stuff by hand or even a programmable calculator was not nearly as cool. Those were the days of waiting in line to use the computer room.

  • @alexkram
    @alexkram 10 месяцев назад +140

    It would take me a long time to understand all of this, but I love how you minimized the "hardness" of the design. This is an engineering master's thesis right here. Would love to see what you are working on now.

  • @senjoronie3971
    @senjoronie3971 10 месяцев назад +44

    Slow-Mo Guys, right now! I would love to see that. What a cool project this is, seriously. It sounds like a gunshot almost, or rather, like the crack of a bullet passing at supersonic speed. Amazing work. I'm thinking about building one now.

  • @TheAnachronist
    @TheAnachronist 3 года назад +274

    I'm really glad you decided to use LaTeX to describe a latex-driven catachet. Super impressive work. I had also recently started to gather supplies to make such a device but was planning on using just a less efficient simple catapult arm and brute-forcing the ratio between amount of rubber and the payload, with a properly tapered arm. Your design (and the process that went into it) is far more elegant, and the tell-tale supersonic crack on the video of the plywood version is unmistakable and very satisfying.

  • @TheBohrokMan
    @TheBohrokMan 2 года назад +455

    As a grad student in fluids who's done some control theory, it was incredibly satisfying to see this idea cast as a constrained optimization problem simplified with scaling laws, and to see it work spectacularly. I saw that you even accounted for hysteresis in the rubber! It's awesome to see actual engineering used for this kind of project. Judging by the snow, I'd guess you're not near the LA area, but in case you ever are, I have access to a high speed camera and a small schlieren setup. I'm sure the shockwaves coming off the ball and sling would look incredible during launch

    • @deepdivyam3437
      @deepdivyam3437 2 года назад +5

      Maybe you could make your own trebuchet and shoot a slow motion video. Would love to see that if you ever have a chance.

    • @evilynux
      @evilynux 2 года назад +27

      Seeing that iron ring in his right-hand pinky, I'm guessing he's in Canada. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring)

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +58

      Thanks! I'm quite far from LA, as Pascal correctly inferred, but I'll keep you in mind if the opportunity comes up.

  • @Kayaz48
    @Kayaz48 9 месяцев назад +155

    I’m hoping that this was a doctoral thesis. An accredited institution sure as hell should give you credit for this brilliant analysis, modeling and results. Well done!!

    • @railgap
      @railgap 9 месяцев назад

      Um, this could have been done using high school algebra. OP is just flexing to make his viewers feel dumb. Further: he provides only fuzzy circumstantial evidence of success: no actual measurements. OP is a poor engineer, which is probably why he is chasing YT money instead of, you know, actually working in engineering.

    • @treOODA
      @treOODA 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@railgap Columbus faced the same naysayers when he stood an egg on its end.. who else has built a supersonic trebuchet?

    • @test5093
      @test5093 7 месяцев назад +5

      A doctoral thesis? More like a bachelors. Maybe a masters but i doubt it.

    • @Kayaz48
      @Kayaz48 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@test5093 Trolls. Keeping the Internet entertaining since 1995.

    • @test5093
      @test5093 7 месяцев назад

      @@Kayaz48 I'm quite serious. Do you have a degree?

  • @TheLifeFruit
    @TheLifeFruit 9 месяцев назад +12

    This is the old youtube quality in more modern times. Love it

  • @StankyBud93
    @StankyBud93 10 месяцев назад +190

    Wow the way it breaks the sound barrier is incredible. Thank you for building this!

    • @protorhinocerator142
      @protorhinocerator142 10 месяцев назад +4

      It sounds like a small cannon. Powered by a rubber band.
      Brings a whole new meaning to "You'll shoot your eye out."

    • @tomchelle1
      @tomchelle1 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah can you imagine if this could be pulled off in the day without the rubber. The sound alone would make the defenders soil their pants and raise the white flag

  • @foolwise4703
    @foolwise4703 2 года назад +382

    Dude I am loving this way too much :D "Turns out its pretty easy" - and continues with the most awesome optimization procedure that I have ever seen for a mechanical design. Now I wish I had had a lecture in mechanical design optization :P I will definitely look into your data. Doing this in three weeks also seems fairly amazing.

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +37

      Thanks! To be fair, I had certainly worked on catapults before, and already had a simulation tool written from a previous project. Just hadn't investigated the limits of the concept.

    • @foolwise4703
      @foolwise4703 2 года назад +7

      @@davideade8692 That sounds realistic. Still amazing work!

  • @SAFEpanki27
    @SAFEpanki27 9 месяцев назад +5

    You say "turns out it's pretty easy" and then go completely over my head within the first 2 slides. Thank you for this video David, I loved watching this.
    Now I need to bust out the Lego and get started on a mini trebuchet :D

  • @PlasmaChannel
    @PlasmaChannel 10 месяцев назад +4

    This is remarkable. The report is even better!

  • @balkedaquino1268
    @balkedaquino1268 2 года назад +39

    I love the fact that you actually talk about the math behind it, too few engineering youtubers do that

  • @janeymers7154
    @janeymers7154 2 года назад +40

    As a mechanical engineer myself (thou i oriented towards IoT and automation), this was honestly humiliating. What you have achieved in the given timeframe is pretty respectable!

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +15

      I think the video doesn't make it clear that I'd already built the model and done a few projects in the trebuchet field before starting this project. Building all that groundwork in a month would be truly ridiculous.

  • @pashagaranin9571
    @pashagaranin9571 22 дня назад

    Among the more useful guides on youtube, I couldn't find anything else on the web explaining how to build my supersonic trebuchet.

  • @TipsyCHUBBZ
    @TipsyCHUBBZ 3 месяца назад +1

    Only supersonic trebuchet on youtube, only 1 video to the channel, 1.6 million views in 3 years and 16.6k current subscribers. The man is doing things. Thank You

  • @someoftheyouse
    @someoftheyouse 2 года назад +77

    That is some PROPER engineering. Fantastic job.

  • @briandalrymple9986
    @briandalrymple9986 2 года назад +400

    Well done David. Loved watching this video.
    Only one thing made me cringe though, when you were cranking up the springs / rubbers, I kept on thinking, “You are standing in front of a loaded weapon”, and I cringed but took solace from the fact the video was produced meaning you survived safely.
    Cheers, Brian from NZ.

    • @Topsrek
      @Topsrek 2 года назад +74

      IRL plot armor

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +147

      Thank you for a civil comment about a real safety concern. The issue is rather nuanced, but I support your recommendation not to do it this way.

    • @boots7859
      @boots7859 2 года назад +45

      @@davideade8692 Agree with Brian. The smart alternative would be to load after fully energizing the system. Potential for finger/hand mangling, which is decidedly less final than supersonic projectile to the head. Very interesting design process in this project, which I can't recall seeing anywhere else on YT. Real engineering.

    • @tombushell1276
      @tombushell1276 2 года назад +28

      Cool video, and a great result, but I share the safety concerns of the other commenters.
      This is based on my experience designing and testing hang glider tow releases, where I was aware of a famous Canadian instructor who had lost an eye to a towline break because he used overly elastic rope for the towline bridle.
      My big concern is structural failure while tensioning the system….especially since wood tends to fail catastrophically.
      A simple plywood shield (or polycarbonate would be even better), shop safety glasses, and /or a helmet would go a long way to reducing the risks.

    • @rey_nemaattori
      @rey_nemaattori 2 года назад +10

      @@boots7859 One can simply block the arm with a safety pin(like with the knex model), allowing you to span the rubbers without the arm possibly moving.

  • @bold-Motion
    @bold-Motion 9 месяцев назад +18

    I know it's been a while, but I'm sure the Slow-Mo Guys would love something like this!

    • @robertmiller8529
      @robertmiller8529 9 месяцев назад

      Came here to say the same thing this would be perfect.

  • @discerningx3375
    @discerningx3375 10 месяцев назад

    Love that you show the math and relevant equations. The understanding of the relationships involved will stay with you a lifetime.

  • @markserbu
    @markserbu 2 года назад +855

    Fantastic! I always love seeing engineering used for interesting stuff, and this is it for sure! Nice job! BTW I have a "fancy" high-speed camera but judging by your surroundings and that odd white stuff on the ground, I gather you're not too close to Florida. ;-)

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +102

      Thanks Mark! Love your work, by the way. Unfortunately, you're correct about the white stuff - I'm a long way from Florida.

    • @ozzymandius666
      @ozzymandius666 2 года назад +14

      @@davideade8692 That was excellent. You just earned yourself a subscriber.
      I'm not an engineer, but I'm pretty good at math and physics, I'll have to look into that design process, see if I can grock it.
      If I understand correctly, you could scale the projectile weight up by adding more rubber...a pulley system that takes advantage of all the surface area under the frame? (and an electric engine to crank it)

    • @markserbu
      @markserbu 2 года назад +54

      @@davideade8692 Thanks! You know, I traverse two different worlds with a lot of what I do...the world of engineering, science, math, and then the world of GIT 'ER DONE! The latter, the fabricator types, generally have disdain for degreed engineers because most of the ones they meet are "math heads" who can't even change the oil in their car. What you're showing here is extremely valuable in showing that "all them thar numbers" CAN be important, and sometimes crucial to getting a task accomplished! I'm going to spread your video far and wide and I hope to help you inspire future generations of engineers.

    • @Flumphinator
      @Flumphinator 2 года назад +12

      @@markserbu Mark confirmed new Bill Nye the Science Guy, since the old one is broken.
      I’m a random dude, but this is spot on. I’m in construction, and I don’t have a college degree, but I’m shoulders with some dudes with masters degrees who don’t know which way to turn a screw.

    • @SegwayBossk
      @SegwayBossk 2 года назад

      I'm in Florida, but I have nothing interesting to film. Unless you want to film various fruits being shot with a pellet gun lol

  • @treOODA
    @treOODA 10 месяцев назад +379

    As a student of ballistics for 30 years, I had no idea that was possible. Great explanation of the math application.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 9 месяцев назад +5

      Consider that when someone cracks a whip, it's breaking the sound barrier.

    • @railgap
      @railgap 9 месяцев назад +17

      "I like to shoot things and math with squiggly lines impresses me"

    • @treOODA
      @treOODA 9 месяцев назад +2

      I wonder if you could use a hydraulic cylinder to leverage the same output..

    • @michawolski4741
      @michawolski4741 8 месяцев назад

      No wonder you're still a student

    • @bormisha
      @bormisha 7 месяцев назад

      @@treOODAI guess you could use a cylinder to load the rubber springs, but not for the final release of energy. It would go too slow. A quick-release energy storage device is necessary, which is basically what those rubber springs are.

  • @kborak
    @kborak 10 месяцев назад +86

    How on Earth, has this video not taken off as fast and hard as those shots? Brilliantly done!

    • @PLAYERSLAYER_22
      @PLAYERSLAYER_22 10 месяцев назад +11

      ive been getting some banger engineering vids recently on reccomended

    • @agentmueller
      @agentmueller 10 месяцев назад +7

      I just got recommended it and if you hit newest comments first you can tell it’s buzzin right now. What I don’t get is what did him and destin collab on? Smarter every day said can’t wait but this guy only has one video and it’s this one from two years ago, and I can’t find anything on SED’s channel.. what gives?

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  10 месяцев назад +38

      @@agentmueller The SED collab is still in the works. It's a big project. I guarantee you'll like it.

    • @Mateus_Coutoo
      @Mateus_Coutoo 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@davideade8692 Can't wait! Destin is an awesome guy, really hope your channel can grown even more with his help

  • @CanyonWanderer
    @CanyonWanderer 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hats off Sir!, what an excellent analysis on how to achieve this result. You took most of the trial and error out of the equation and it shows in the end!

  • @icycoral
    @icycoral 9 месяцев назад +3

    That was an excellent presentation of the engineering design process, along with a very exciting demonstration. Very very cool!

  • @patrickstrasser-mikhail6873
    @patrickstrasser-mikhail6873 2 года назад +105

    I love how you engineer the engineering. The meta-analysis is great, its like instead of just walking towards a goal (naive approach), or using a map (engineering) rather finding the best tool to select the best map to decide the best way how to get to the goal with the least total effort.

    • @dextruax4903
      @dextruax4903 2 года назад +3

      That sounds like more work lol

    • @PeanutPirate1
      @PeanutPirate1 2 года назад +5

      Work smart, not hard 😉

    • @NeverTalkToCops1
      @NeverTalkToCops1 2 года назад +1

      @@PeanutPirate1 Do neither. That gets you into Elon Musk territory. Trust me.

  • @boblandowski6960
    @boblandowski6960 2 года назад +494

    You should contact either James the Hacksmith he is in Kitchner, Ontario or Destin from Smarter everyday from US. Love this video thank you for showing the engineering process, wouldn't mind seeing the actual build video if you have it.

    • @petiepooo2
      @petiepooo2 2 года назад +27

      I second the Destin recommendation

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +127

      I actually did contact Destin about it, but he wasn't interested at all. The Hacksmith is an interesting suggestion though, I think I'll follow that up. Thanks!
      Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, given how messy my shop was at the time) I didn't record the build.

    • @JosephParker_Nottheboxer
      @JosephParker_Nottheboxer 2 года назад +65

      Possibly Gav of the Slo-mo guys.
      The other option is contacting universitys of some form because of the practical application of physics and maths to make somethng quite tangible. Added in it's portability and I can see this easily as an educational tool for people.

    • @Tuppirauta
      @Tuppirauta 2 года назад +1

      Definately contact Smarter Everyday!
      Superb work, absolutely. Maths and design, you got brilliant future where ever you wanna build it. Go for it!

    • @arasin.staubly
      @arasin.staubly 2 года назад +36

      The Slingshot Channel needs to see this one!

  • @joe-dp3ng
    @joe-dp3ng 6 месяцев назад

    Hearing the sound I'm familiar with of the projectile breaking the sound barrier is proof enough for me. Good job.

  • @dragchute1
    @dragchute1 10 месяцев назад +13

    I cudda done that if it hadn't been for all that science stuff! Seriously .. awesome. I was a biologist and fighter pilot. The sound barrier was controlled by my left hand and permission of ATC. To imagine a ball bearing moving faster than me without coming from a gun, fascinating. Well done.

  • @larryscott3982
    @larryscott3982 2 года назад +34

    I like the sonic boom. You know positively when Mach is achieved.
    And a nice deep dive into critical parts before fabrication. And minimal ‘trial and error’.

  • @Ikbeneengeit
    @Ikbeneengeit 2 года назад +36

    Never thought of optimizing an engineering problem with a difficulty function. Beautiful modelling work!

  • @Atmos_Glitch
    @Atmos_Glitch 8 месяцев назад +3

    Ahh, a video, that really feels like it's made for just sharing what how like, how you like it, for others to like too!

  • @jobobminer8843
    @jobobminer8843 9 месяцев назад +1

    Exactly one video on RUclips. 1.2 million views. Excellent work sir

  • @johnchase9054
    @johnchase9054 2 года назад +899

    Now that you've got the object at supersonic speeds how about the more difficult problem of getting it to repeatedly impact a distant stationary object at a precise location?

    • @Allahuma.sali.ala.muhammad.
      @Allahuma.sali.ala.muhammad. 2 года назад +28

      i like that idea!

    • @Doeff8
      @Doeff8 2 года назад +4

      lol

    • @JoseRodriguez-go5do
      @JoseRodriguez-go5do 2 года назад +104

      Yeah, let this guy further develop a military weapon by improving accuracy using shit from your cellar. This sure will come in handy in these times of social revolts and demonstrations….

    • @AidaMusic03
      @AidaMusic03 2 года назад +121

      @@JoseRodriguez-go5do Shut up "Jose Rodriguez"

    • @zippyllama177
      @zippyllama177 2 года назад +63

      mate.... a gun is cheaper and more effective. This would have 0 impact on the issues you named.

  • @evancourtney7746
    @evancourtney7746 2 года назад +99

    This is amazing! I love how your solution vs. the Smarter Everyday guy's to throwing something over Mach 1 illustrates the difference 10M subscribers make to your design choices.

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +105

      In fairness to Destin, building one of these to throw a baseball at Mach 1 would cost a fortune. I did a few studies on how scaling affects the cost, and it's essentially linear with the energy. Getting his performance with this design would likely cost $10k or so.

    • @KevinToppenberg
      @KevinToppenberg 2 года назад +16

      I wonder if Destin would be available to use his equipment to film your machine... Anyone know how to ask him?

    • @filfil9902
      @filfil9902 2 года назад +2

      @@davideade8692 looking at his contraption this would be cheaper

    • @Sgrunterundt
      @Sgrunterundt 2 года назад +2

      @@davideade8692 Only linear with energy? I'd expect much worse.

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +18

      @@Sgrunterundt I expect the linear scaling would break when the parts got large enough to be non-standard sizes, but that happens well above baseball scale.

  • @jamesbrown9736
    @jamesbrown9736 10 месяцев назад +4

    As a fan of siege machinery this is about the coolest one I have seen. Of course watching the guys from Top Gear hurl a car and it presumably destroying a barn was very satisfying as well. 😊. Can’t begin to anywhere understand the math you presented but still very satisfying. Great job! Glad you didn’t take your head off with all the potential energy you produced!!!

  • @martingraser6938
    @martingraser6938 10 месяцев назад +1

    Rally great understanding of kinetic and physic. Extraordinary work.

  • @mwsletten
    @mwsletten 2 года назад +106

    This was really fun to watch, but it was also nerve wracking. I have a suggestion: When working with a machine that can accelerate a projectile to speeds fast enough to cause injury don't stand in the path of the projectile after it's loaded. For example, I would not load the projectile on the machine until AFTER preloading the rubber bands. Call me a worry wart, but I've seen firearms discharge in all kinds of different situations where they were not supposed to.

    • @lowskillcamper
      @lowskillcamper 2 года назад +14

      Yes, a ball like that has more "muzzle" energy than many pistol bullets.

    • @mriguy3202
      @mriguy3202 2 года назад +6

      Yes higher safety margins are a good idea.. The more times you try it out the more chances for the trebuchet to tip over sideways or timber fastener fail, etc. I'd suggest finding a way to add lateral stability and a way to crank the winch while standing off to the side a few feet. Wonderful work, though!

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek 2 года назад +7

      both he and the camera person clearly exercised some level of caution to not stand directly in the plane of rotation, but I think they got too close to it. the most worrying part in my opinion is the cranking.

    • @darth_dan8886
      @darth_dan8886 2 года назад +3

      I've honestly been watching carefully and saw that he was off the axis of the trebuchet at all times when it was loaded, but the criticism is fair.

    • @kaminelson1277
      @kaminelson1277 2 года назад +1

      It's more dangerous loading it after cause it could rip your hand off. Also the projectile will likely just go over your head and if you watched his head never went directly in front of the projectiles path

  • @andrewphillip8432
    @andrewphillip8432 2 года назад +225

    To be honest I was most surprised that the rubber was able to move itself fast enough. Even with such a large motion amplification that the arm and sling give, I somewhat expected the rubber to have too much mass relative to its stored elastic energy. I suppose thats the beauty of the optimization approach - that it quickly guides you to the correct intuition. I am now 100% signing up for the optimization elective at my school!

    • @ddexter8723
      @ddexter8723 10 месяцев назад +7

      You can get double the speed from the rubber by using a pulley system

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ddexter8723can you quadruple it with a double pulley?

    • @von...
      @von... 10 месяцев назад

      @@williamchamberlain2263 if you set up a quad pulley... noble peace prize right there. truly the peak of all engineering feats.

    • @phildavenport4150
      @phildavenport4150 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@derekgross7852 Who was it that said there is nothing as practical as a good theory?

    • @plasmaastronaut
      @plasmaastronaut 10 месяцев назад +4

      why would u be surprised? small rubber balloons pop with supersonic speed without any engineering.

  • @WHIRLWOLF
    @WHIRLWOLF 10 месяцев назад

    First video I'm watching of yours. Love it !

  • @igiwarcraft
    @igiwarcraft 9 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing. So very well explained and boy, how well articulated. Props for that and thank you!

  • @meem6227
    @meem6227 2 года назад +582

    THIS IS YOUR ONLY VIDEO ?!!?!
    I'm honestly so surprised. This has such a good production quality I thought you've been doing this for at least a while. Please post more :D this was awesome and I honestly desire more. Also, if you keep this up, you'll probably eventually get up there in the fun youtube science part along Mykull, Nile, William Osman and his friends and all the big boys

    • @speedweasel
      @speedweasel 10 месяцев назад +37

      Given the lack of safety controls and the way he kept sticking his hands and face in and around the mechanism, I just assume this thing killed him. My condolences to his family if that's true.

    • @psychosis7325
      @psychosis7325 10 месяцев назад

      @@speedweasel Wohin Corporation

    • @teaboy9614
      @teaboy9614 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@speedweasel ye i was anxious watching him touch that ball in armed supersonic trebuchet

    • @arturjogi2667
      @arturjogi2667 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's a trebuchet. The only part going a deadly speed is the ball and string

    • @asmodiusjones9563
      @asmodiusjones9563 10 месяцев назад +5

      ⁠@@arturjogi2667with a firearm, the only thing going a deadly speed is the bullet. Doesn’t mean it’s not deadly.
      If he had a .22 handgun on the end of the frame pointing towards him while he cranked it up, I think it would be obvious how dangerous that is.

  • @BobbyDukeArts
    @BobbyDukeArts 2 года назад +106

    That's pretty amazing

  • @gavinlamp
    @gavinlamp 9 месяцев назад +2

    when I was 15 my uncle and I built 4 ton weighted trebuchet on our ranch and would throw 10lbs cinderblocks like 500 yards at a half loaded bucket (it was like a 20 ft tall machine). A fully loaded weight bucket would throw a brick out of the property line and into the state road. That thing moved in slow motion when it fired, and I can not imagine a full scale version of this set up. It would be a menace. Amazing stuff even after 2 years, great work and great math

  • @mbainrot
    @mbainrot 10 месяцев назад +10

    Mate this is sooo bloody cool, can't wait to see the collab with you and Destin.
    Thank you for sharing the drawings/simulations thou, if i were still into making loud noises (use to use a capacitor bank to see how loud I could make components/wire atomically cover the containment box) I'd totally build one 🤣

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  10 месяцев назад +5

      Funny you mention this, as I'm working on refurbishing my old pulsed power system at the moment. 25kJ at 16kV :D

    • @TheExplosiveGuy
      @TheExplosiveGuy 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@davideade8692 Man, here I was thinking my 1.5kJ 1kV capacitor bank was loud, I'll bet that thing could make you go deaf! 25kJ, good lord...

  • @Jackknifegyp
    @Jackknifegyp 2 года назад +36

    This falls into a huge vat of projects wherein my ambition, and desire, are whelmed over by my impatience, talent, energy, persistence, and other attributes to break the sound barrier. But having spent a month attempting to build trebs and cats, to hurl tennis balls for the pupster to chase and retrieve, I can appreciate the raw awesomeness of your efforts, and final success. As others have noted, the 'thud' is very satisfying. Like an applause from the cosmos.

    • @HarveyCohen
      @HarveyCohen 2 года назад +2

      The first time I read this I thought you were hurling cats. I'd pay to see that.

  • @dittilio
    @dittilio 2 года назад +14

    I got completely nerd sniped by your design process. Absolutely love that parametric optimisation design approach.

  • @MacsMachines
    @MacsMachines 10 месяцев назад

    Great video, it’s content like this that still makes RUclips No 1 for thinkers and learners 👍

  • @juhotuho10
    @juhotuho10 8 месяцев назад

    I would never even have thought of including design difficulty in optimizing the trebuchet, this is exteremely interesting
    super cool video, thank you

  • @mrkb34
    @mrkb34 3 года назад +29

    This is fantastic. The trebuchet community will be very excited. Thanks!

  • @tristanwegner
    @tristanwegner 2 года назад +13

    I love that you go more in depth with the math and modeling than most build channels on youtube! Good way to stand out!

  • @charger1369
    @charger1369 7 месяцев назад

    Strange I haven't seen this yet. Strange that you don't have more videos. You've got my subscription, I really enjoyed hearing your highly technical descriptions and explanations, without watering it down for people who don't understand it. I didn't understand it, by the way, that's me lol
    Very interesting, hope you continue.

  • @caleblloyd2781
    @caleblloyd2781 7 месяцев назад

    This thing is so awesome!! That crack is one of the coolest things I've ever heard considering it's only powered by rubber bands. Great work!

  • @antoniowoods9583
    @antoniowoods9583 2 года назад +61

    Loved this! Buy yourself a blast shield and some safety goggles, then make more videos! I'd happily watch.

    • @mcfail3450
      @mcfail3450 2 года назад +13

      I'm glad someone else noticed he was being pretty dangerous during the cranking. One thing breaks and his head has a steel ball through it. Cringed the most during the measurement. Like bro if it snaps your hands go bye bye. You can just glue or screw a yard stick to it for measurement.

    • @Slipperygecko390
      @Slipperygecko390 10 месяцев назад

      @@mcfail3450 Well I hate to say it but he's only every posted one video so I hope the worst hasn't happened. It would be 100 times safer to point a gun at yourself while you load it, at least a guns safety mechanism is proven.

  • @abs_official
    @abs_official 2 года назад +54

    This is awesome. I remember building a ~2 foot tall trebuchet out of KNEX back in the 90's as a kid. This is pure nostalgia right here

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +23

      Nice! I spent so much time with KNEX as a kid.

    • @PLAYERSLAYER_22
      @PLAYERSLAYER_22 10 месяцев назад +3

      the knex got me lol as a 90's kid

    • @EternamDoov
      @EternamDoov 9 месяцев назад +1

      '90s *

  • @jamesr736
    @jamesr736 7 месяцев назад

    I can't believe this is your only video, it would be so cool to see you do more.

  • @ThoughtsAreReal
    @ThoughtsAreReal 6 месяцев назад

    I am amazed. Fantastic work David!

  • @RobertMilesAI
    @RobertMilesAI 2 года назад +65

    Amazing how modern engineering allows you to do extraordinary things without using modern materials. It seems to me that something almost as good as this could be built with Renaissance technology, if they'd only known how to design it

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +71

      Probably, although the efficiency would be much lower, as the sling line would have to be much heavier to work with the fibers they had at the time. The Dyneema string I use for the sling has something like ten times the specific strength of anything that was available in the Renaissance.

    • @jopo3616
      @jopo3616 2 года назад +12

      Design a Supersonic Trebuchet with Renaissance materials? Sounds like a problem only a super AI could solve.

    • @James_Hallam
      @James_Hallam 2 года назад +12

      @@davideade8692 dyneema is incredible. We use it in high performance sailing and run relatively massive loads on tiny bits of string. Blows my mind on a daily basis.

    • @thextremeking
      @thextremeking 2 года назад +3

      @@jopo3616 I agree, we need the give the AI the instruction to make it shoot projectiles as fast as possible using any resources it can get it's hands on and of course no robotic laws are implemented ;)

    • @trif55
      @trif55 2 года назад +1

      @@davideade8692 what sort of forces are experienced by the line?

  • @AnkushGirotra
    @AnkushGirotra 2 года назад +23

    Beautiful lesson on how to approach real world optimization problems. Why introduce parameters into a design when one can simply derive them from root constraints like an absolute chad.
    Great work 👍

  • @BytebroUK
    @BytebroUK 10 месяцев назад

    OK, I see you made this about 2yrs ago, but it's new to me. At first I thought it was just another yahoo making things go bang, but then you hit the analysis and maths. Now, sadly, I'm hooked. I hope you're still making vids.

  • @miserablemosquito462
    @miserablemosquito462 7 месяцев назад

    This is absolutely insane. I would love to see some more videos.

  • @joelfilho2625
    @joelfilho2625 2 года назад +13

    You have a rather soothing voice, a charming personality, and the machine itself looked like a rather outstanding piece of engineering. While I'm about as dumb as a bag of rocks on the design optimisation stuff, it's clear you put in a lot of thought and calculations on the project and the video was a joy to watch as a whole. Excellent content!

  • @tedmankowski5490
    @tedmankowski5490 10 месяцев назад +118

    For your next assignment, please design a larger version that can cast an object into stationary orbit. We've already seen the big spin, but it's way too expensive. 🙂

    • @EnderRobber101
      @EnderRobber101 9 месяцев назад +33

      You need a secondary push from orbit so a Trebuchet shooting a Trebuchet shooting a payload

    • @alexCh-ln2gw
      @alexCh-ln2gw 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@EnderRobber101 I bet you could get funding from elon musk if it launched a tesla into space.

    • @EnderRobber101
      @EnderRobber101 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@alexCh-ln2gw basically the concept of spin lauch

    • @RRKS
      @RRKS 8 месяцев назад +3

      Imagine seeing a thousand people cranking a huge wheel to toss a rocket into orbit 🤣

    • @ricahrddowner6016
      @ricahrddowner6016 7 месяцев назад +3

      Anything you want to launch from the ground into orbit, is like a meteor going into earth at a very bad angle. The projectile itself would burn up, that's the scale of energy to get into orbit BTW

  • @waitemc
    @waitemc 10 месяцев назад

    That was the most awesome thing I've seen in a while. Thank you

  • @user-zk1vv9ob6w
    @user-zk1vv9ob6w 7 месяцев назад

    this video literally brought a tear to my eye. FANTASTIC JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @1495978707
    @1495978707 2 года назад +3

    This is absolutely fantastic. A much needed and well done explanation of a rigorous design process

  • @TheEveryDayC
    @TheEveryDayC 2 года назад +9

    it's so interesting to me how similar the sounds are to a gunshot for what you hear as the sound echoes out. mechanically it's the same factor that causes it, the projectile breaking the sound barrier, but achieved completely differently. you would still then, presumably hear a ballistic snap in the direction the projectile is moving. would love to see a camera put out there to hear it and confirm

  • @user-ux1qv8rw6y
    @user-ux1qv8rw6y 10 месяцев назад +1

    That is some PROPER engineering. Fantastic job.. That's pretty amazing.

  • @ranibearsilva5883
    @ranibearsilva5883 10 месяцев назад

    HI David , we loved your enthusiasm for engineering

  • @josuelservin
    @josuelservin 2 года назад +5

    The design optimization study is great to see and the musings on the creakines of wood just wonderful, thank you for this magnificent video and design, it is inspiring to say the least.

  • @knowledgelover2736
    @knowledgelover2736 Год назад +10

    Great work!
    Now that you have proven the concept, the crank effort at the end is another design optimization for scaled production.
    In industry we always design to 50% engine capacity so that if we have to step outside job parameters we don’t break the system.

    • @00bean00
      @00bean00 10 месяцев назад

      Time for a mini Lego version with motors

  • @justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
    @justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have a personal rule not to subscribe to a channel unless I have seen more than 1 video from that channel and enjoyed both.
    Any man who can build a supersomic trebuchet easily is worth breaking that rule.

  • @christianlucy3053
    @christianlucy3053 9 месяцев назад

    Was not expecting to come across this video today but so glad that I did. Amazingly cool.

  • @iain3713
    @iain3713 2 года назад +3

    This is incredibly impressive, cool to see the optimisation too.

  • @vonniemason2730
    @vonniemason2730 10 месяцев назад +55

    Watching the model arm form a golden ratio shape for optimal inertia was fascinating

  • @420gasstation
    @420gasstation 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is amazing! You need to do more videos like this! You would have a following like no other.

  • @johnwheatley231
    @johnwheatley231 10 месяцев назад +15

    Great engineering feat. Would love to see some slo-mo and impacts of the projectile.

    • @reno3
      @reno3 9 месяцев назад

      I'm guessing it is not relatively accurate over long distances.

  • @arcadely
    @arcadely 2 года назад +3

    David's done one video and it's absolute gold. More, please, if you have the time and the interest!

  • @aaronfranklin324
    @aaronfranklin324 2 года назад +4

    I achieved mach2 with nothing but a car inner tube back in 1988. Cut the whole thing into a 1 inch wide strip, tied one end to a power pole and walked the other end about 400m up the road.
    It was shocking. Less than half a second to get well past the pole. It touched a parked cars wing mirror about 50m past the pole, which exploded into tiny fragments of glass and metal.
    A hard grade of nylon monofilament works better than rubber as a tension spring. More energy storage per mass, and less hysteresis.

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  2 года назад +2

      Well, it is my first time editing a video. Had I had the faintest idea of its eventual spread, I probably would've put in a bit more effort.

  • @bluebearcreativeAU
    @bluebearcreativeAU 10 месяцев назад

    very cool to watch the process and the result

  • @EnderSpy007
    @EnderSpy007 2 года назад +38

    if im not mistaken trebuchets are powered by gravity via a counterweight, and catapults are powered via tension. Great video either way!

    • @connerferguson1667
      @connerferguson1667 2 года назад +4

      Thank you! I though I was the only person that caught that detail.

    • @jamesedwardrichardson2131
      @jamesedwardrichardson2131 2 года назад +1

      I think that a trebuchet, ballista, or mangonel are all catapults, but mangonels are tension and trebuchets are gravity powered. But I would definitely not call this a trebuchet. This machine I would call a mangonel.

    • @SoWhat1221
      @SoWhat1221 2 года назад +3

      @@jamesedwardrichardson2131 I just want to point out that, while you're technically correct that mangonels were tension-powered, it's important to note that, that tension laid in the muscles of the men. Mangonels were not torsion powered, like onagers. They were powered by a group of men, giving the machine a solid pull. Importantly, so were the first trebuchets, the so-called traction trebuchets.

  • @minhducnguyen9276
    @minhducnguyen9276 2 года назад +6

    That's insane. I would expect a mechanical device to barely break the sound barrier, not going nearly 100m/s over the speed of sound. Your work is truly impressive.

    • @mitchellcouchman1444
      @mitchellcouchman1444 10 месяцев назад

      The next question is how hard is hypersonic

    • @htomerif
      @htomerif 10 месяцев назад

      Uh... purely mechanical whips have been breaking the sound barrier for at least centuries. Possibly millennia? I wouldn't be surprised if you could attach a small ball bearing to the end of a bullwhip and have it break free at supersonic speeds. Kinda simplify this whole thing.

    • @ludovicoch3997
      @ludovicoch3997 10 месяцев назад

      @@htomerif😂 it’s a bit more complicated than that

    • @htomerif
      @htomerif 10 месяцев назад

      @@ludovicoch3997 oh, why don't you tell me how its "more complicated than that"?

  • @triders
    @triders 10 месяцев назад

    Incredible dedication to the science and fun!

  • @robbennett6053
    @robbennett6053 7 месяцев назад

    Bloody hell! You're a clever lad! Really interesting, though I must admit, it was well over my head.

  • @danielnorman8595
    @danielnorman8595 10 месяцев назад +5

    At first you wouldn't think it was possible. But then I realized every time I cracked my bull whip it does the same thing. Very cool

  • @ACDC5968
    @ACDC5968 3 года назад +46

    This is absolutely amazing, nice work on everything and I have no doubt you'll have a lot of interest. I commend you on this project I really do personally I'm thinking how amazing it would be scaled up lol.

    • @davideade8692
      @davideade8692  3 года назад +14

      I've been thinking about one powered by a gas ram that launches golf balls, but I can't quite justify the cost to myself :P Nice K'nex trebuchets, by the way.

    • @mb-3faze
      @mb-3faze 2 года назад

      @@davideade8692 It would be great to see the pressure and shock waves. Maybe contact the 'Slow-mo guys' or The Backyard Scientist.? They have some high-speed cameras.

  • @ludwigneyen
    @ludwigneyen 8 месяцев назад

    amazing video, pls give us more :) loved the deep diving engineering approach

  • @abolfazlmirboland4659
    @abolfazlmirboland4659 7 месяцев назад

    that was perfect
    Excellent
    I am sending a message from Iran
    I used Google translator to convey the message
    I am an ordinary citizen. Not an expert. And I enjoyed your video immensely.
    Science is useful when it can be explained fluently and popularly.
    long live you

  • @Connor_Montgomery
    @Connor_Montgomery 2 года назад +6

    How is this your only video? It feels like a well established channel that has tons of uploads and really good videos

  • @bobsaccomanno5822
    @bobsaccomanno5822 2 года назад +3

    Just found your video yesterday. Very well done. Took almost a year for RUclips to recommend it to me (an engineer). If this only took you 3 weeks, your channel can rivel that of similar content.

  • @jayjarrett732
    @jayjarrett732 10 месяцев назад +6

    This guy is next level brilliant. You can almost see the gears and calculators inside his head when he rattles off those numbers.

  • @nikolaiivankin
    @nikolaiivankin 9 месяцев назад

    amazing, the most amazing home made project I've seen!

  • @D70Dug
    @D70Dug 2 года назад +4

    It's a hybrid of a trebuchet and a catapult
    Trebuchets are usually powered by a falling weight
    Catapults by tension springs ( Rope Timber or rubber in modern times )
    It's way cool thought