Why would anyone ever do that? This show is so bad, and this segment is just clickbait invented by espn that you took and ran with because you know anything JA#17 related will get engagement, fake or other. You can't even come up with your own clickbait
In their first 5 years of their careers Manning, Marino, Farve had more turn overs than Allen. In 5 years Allen has the most TD's in league history. I think he'll be okay.
So did Elway and Brees and is tied with Tom Brady. I think the exec that said this has to be in the division. Maybe the dolphins where he's 11-2 against 😅
Josh also has the most turnover at this point compared to Peyton. Josh has 102 Peyton has 100. Josh Allen averages 20 turnovers a season. In what world is that not awful his last 4 seasons has averages 43ish TDs a season. So he essentially has a 2-1 TD to turnover ratio (not just INT fumbles too and not just passing rushing as well) in what world is a guy a top 4 QB with a 2-1 TD to turnover ratio?
@@ricblic901 Josh Allen has 221 total touchdowns and 102 turnovers. INTs by season 12,9,10,15,14,18. That's 78. Then fumbles by seasons 2,4,6,3,5,4 that's 24. 78 plus 24 is 102. Then passing TDs 10,20,37,36,35,29. That's 167 passing Tds. Then rushing touchdowns 8,9,8,6,7,15. Total of 53 rushing. 167 plus 53 and 1 receiving TD. Now tell me where I lied at. 221-102 essentially 2-1 TD to INT ratio. Fact check it and tell me I'm wrong.
He is absolutely right. To see his logic, just pick anything you DON"T think is overrated, then think of some negative things about it (don't tell me there is none, because nothing is perfect), and put them together like that executive's statement. You can see then why the executive is so wrong. For example: "This Ferrari is so overrated, it's ugly, it's such a gas guzzler, it has terrible ground clearance, it has very limited space" - you see how this statement is so wrong now?
How can you say he’s overrated? He’s a top 5 qb is he not? I’m not saying he’s the best or even the second best. But in the 3-5 range is perfectly fine. And no one thinks he’s the 1st or 2nd, so how is he overrated?
@@huginnmuninn2155 maybe a year and a half ago before he won his second and third superbowl, but no one nowadays has or could even say that they’re even close
Because he's been the pre season mvp/SB favorite for the past 5 years. Until this year people were arguing him and mahomes. You can still think he's elite and admit he's overrated
He's not overrated but there was 1 exec that put him as the #1 QB in the poll. And most will put him over Lamar so if you think Lamar's better than Allen, then Allen is definitely being "overrated"
@justicegaddy dude hasn't played a full season in 2 years. Probability says he'll get injured again this year(would rather he not). Jake browning was playing better than he was last season.
Allen was making turnovers like he was a contestant on Hell's Kitchen, "Calling josh allen overrated? It ... IT MAKES ME MAD" Yall dont get mad when the 2 time mvp gets hate which is constantly
@@rafaelisslaam1894 That wasn't a choke. The Bengals ran the ball down the Bills' throat. The Bengals had the ball for like 41 minutes. Bills only had 19 minutes TOP. They couldn't get the Bengals off the field. Not a choke on Josh. If anything, it's a choke on the Front 7 of the Bills more than anything
Anybody that says a qb who has had 40+tds last 4years. And this past season including the playoffs had 51 tds to 18 interceptions are stupid and just haters. But we continue to make excuses for justin Herbert who's (30-32) no playoffs wins and Trevor Lawrence who is (20-30) blame coaching for their shortcomings. 😂😂😂😂😂
Bro, Herbert gets NO criticisms at all and is in every Top 10 QB list 😂. Crazy how they will say Josh Allen and Lamar are overrated but not Herbert. Blows my mind.
@@donnough2085 exactly these same sports" analysts " said in 2018 that baker Mayfield was better than both josh allen and lamar jackson 🤣😂😂😂 wtf are we doing bro- it's a slow news week 🤣😂😂😂😂
Zero SB appearances, Zero MVP, he’s favorited to win every award every year, cover of madden, And what does he have to show for it? He’s the definition of overrated, until proven otherwise.
The only QB to ever go for 40 plus TD’s in 4 years in a row and have some of the best statistics in NFL history is overrated because his defense chokes in games when he literally carries that team the whole way. Yep must be overrated because every other team besides KC would pick him up in a second if he was released. Even KC fans that i know says that as long as Allen is Buffalo’s QB the Super Bowl window will never close.
No excuses in the playoffs. We don't wanna hear what the defense does. If the defense gives up 30 then score 31 if you're that dude. That's what Mahomes does. Other qbs don't get passes...ask Lamar.
QBs Josh Allen has beaten in the playoffs: Old Phillip Rivers Lamar Jackson (DNF concussion) Mac Jones Mason Rudolph Skylar Thompson. In playoffs hes beaten 2.5 Backups, a man 2 weeks from retirement, and a man who got a Brain injury. Any other elite QB sends him home, Burrow 1x and Mahomes 3x.
Josh has historic numbers for his playoff career literally go look it up and he plays good against pat but his D don't so blaming him for that is insane josh doesn't play D 😂
Josh allen is inconsistent at times which is why there's even a need to question him at this point, he can silence it if he proves he didn't need Diggs. He's either the best qb in the world for 6-7 games or he's a mid level qb making mistakes, he's a top 3 qb in the league regardless and honestly I'd take him over burrow bc availability is the best ability. Just my opinion tho
@AlexRosner-v8t What? He beat the Chiefs essentially in 13 second game and defense couldn't come through and then this last playoff game, his defense didn't get one stop and kicker missed a FG. This is just dumb. Josh is known for showing up in big games, but losing in games against lesser teams lol. Like your assessment is totally wrong.
The odds of Allem or Lamar winning a SB with their current HC are 0% based on 100+ years of historical data. No QB + HC has ever won their first championship together beyond year 5 together. That's thousands of combinations. Burrow is close to that mark as well. I definitely don't see Harbaugh going anywhere. McDermott and Wilson will need to eventually get fired, but who knows what state the Bills and Bengals will be in by the time that actually happens. And who knows if they'll click with their next coaches. Edit: Overwhelming if a QB + HC don't win a SB by year 3 together they never win one. 5 years is the max it has ever happened to date.
I mean him by himself had as many touchdowns basically as the entire Baltimore ravens team…but go on lmao. What’s that say about your hero Lamar? Lamar is trash too my g
@@michaelmero426 not even a Lamar Jackson fan but I still doubt his throwing ability. However, any two time mvp In any sport can’t be trash. Josh must have more mvps?😭
@@braydenbp17 truth is, he has never lived up to the hype, he’s projected to win a SB 4 straight seasons didn’t come close, projected to be MVP last 4 seasons, never even came close, it’s time to realize who he is… a turnover in a jersey
@@TheRealMichaelP he was never projected to win those in four straight seasons that’s impossible and he has one of the best td/int ratios right now you cannot blame him for all of the times they could’ve been in the Super Bowl the defense has sold numerous times have you watched a single Bills game? 😂😂😂
@@braydenbp17 what’s his int/td radio have to do with anything when he fumbles twice a game? That’s why all the people who pick him for MVP and SB on Preseason TV jump right off the bandwagon at some point during the season
@@mikep3813let me ask you a question then would you consider Phillip rivers a top three qb when he played? If not then Josh is definitely over rated they numbers are very close in every way
Josh is so great that they found more success taking the ball out of his hands. Dude only constantly leads the league in turnovers. With taking the ball out of his hands he will be better
It says "more overated players" You can't even be just overated if there's only two QBs in the league better than you, and nobody is saying you're better than those two...
@@therocket280z7 Technically only one, Burrow is always hurt and has better coaching and talent. The only QB better than me might go down as the second best QB of all time.
@@AilmanF2P I'll agree it's debatable, primarily due to the injury problem. But, the other two are relatively even in my mind. Also, One thing that Burrow and Mahomes figured out real quick, that Allen has yet to, is game management. He needs to learn when to dial it back and keep the other guy off the field. That's why their D becomes a sieve, against the other two.
He's absolutely overrated if you think he's a top 3 QB in the NFL. He's not overrated if you think he's in the bottom half of the top 10. Josh Allen is the Carmello Anthony of the NFL.
Allen is overrated because some think he’s better than Lamar. It’s simple as that. Allen at 3rd I agree, but he is not a top 2 QB not right now today. That belongs to Mahomes and Lamar.
@@dmac33 think about that. Why didn’t Allen get the MVP if he had such a great season? lmao. Lamar’s better decision making was one of the determining factors.
I agree Allen isn’t even better than burrow, i got Allen as the 4th best QB in the league. Burrow has beat mahomes 3x and been to a SB & he’s also 2-0 against Allen.
@@goodnightmunchiethat black African American QB that you are talking about gets criticized way more than any Caucasian White QB🤷🏽♂️ That Black African you are talking about wins MVPs with no #1 type WRs💯 Although that White Caucasian QB they are talking about has had a #1 Wr & plenty good WRs his whole career & hasn’t even won a MVP at all. He turns the ball over a whole lot though😂😅🤣
@@goodnightmunchieCuz that black guy is doing it without a Top10 WR to throw to, also for 5yrs was killing while his OC couldn't even put together a NFL level passing scheme
The fact that two of these dudes mentioned Josh with the 3 time Super Bowl MVP is precisely why he’s overrated 😂 they literally did the thing the quote was talking about. Josh isn’t even close to a Mahomes but yall hype him up and try to do a comparison lol
@@biblebeltfishing Who cares about TDs in a specific span of years if you get spanked first round every year. Anybody can beat up on the usual 4-6 mid teams a year, not saying Josh is trash but he has done nothing to get the comparisons to Mahomes. Nobody looks back and say “Peyton led the league in TDs between 2008-2012” lol it’s irrelevant to the big picture. Turn on the tape and watch them play… Josh is better off being compared to a Burrow or maybe maybe shouldn’t even be compared to Lamar (2XMVP)
@@caroldavidson1891 So you think if Mahomes was on the Bills he would have 3 rings? Josh went to a team that hadn't gone to the playoffs in 20 years. His head coach should have been fired by now.
Josh Allen has had to be literal Superman every single game for the Bills to win. And you’re surprised he forces throws and turns the ball over sometimes? LOOK AT THE TOUCHDOWNS
Lmao why is everyone on his Nuts, stop this Josh Allen isn't better than Joe Burrow and to be honest he's not even better than Lamar Jackson. What has be done? I'll be honest as a Bengals fan. We love playing the bills, they're like our younger brothers. Josh Included
@Avsfan23 1000%. Are you serious? Josh Allen vs Lamar is not even a debate. Lamar shrinks in playoffs and can't throw accurately on a consistent basis.
@@prestonjohnson829hmm a QB that can throw the deep ball with better accuracy and spread the field better and can also run as well when the pocket collapses and much harder to bring down than Lamar.
@@leo29hornsfan ok, so wat hardware do he have again? Remember LJ and Josh came in together and Lamar has the 2nd best win/lose behind only Patrick! It is a job tackling Josh, but you can't catch LJ, plus Josh running is not the same as LJ's running! Josh throws a lot of pics way more than LJ. There's no way a GM is going to make that trade, bcuz it makes no sense! It's not an up grade at the position, so you never trade sideways! I kept this fun and did not get technical about the break down.
Who are the other overrated players, for point of reference? Josh had 44 combined TDs last year. His net of TDs minus turnovers over multiple seasons is second only to Mahomes. So what’s overrated with him? This sounds like an oldster exec who doesn’t understand stats and is flying by gut.
Listen up kids. Josh Allen. The lowest, lowest interception rate in the playoffs, all time. All time! 1.1% Most TDs in his first 6 years than any other QB in history. All time! If anything, he’s underrated.
sports media is not asleep concerning josh allen, he just hasn't lived up to ya'll's hype. his trophy case is bare. the dude needs to at least win an MVP to keep him relevant and to warrant all the sport media worship.
I think acho is a very eloquent and well spoken guy. They make him the lead for a reason! Idk why yall saying he talks too much maybe you’re too slow to keep up!
Anyone that thinks Allen is overrated has an imperfect understanding of football, probably due to the way the media controls the narrative of performance. Allen dominates both basic and advanced statistics. Even if you think he's a turnover machine, his positive plays outweigh the negatives so heavily that its not even remotely a net problem. People are just somehow not smart enough to remember that a quarterback only accounts for about 20% of a team's success.
Whoever said that quote is a clown. Just watch a bills game, Allen changes the play all the time and is really good at going through his reads. His biggest (and honestly only) issue is forcing crazy hard throws too often
If you subscribe to the thought that his expectations were to win a SB, i agree he’s “overrated”. With a normal level of expectation there is no way this man is anywhere near overrated
not to mention Allen has converted an absolutely absurd 49.0% of 3rd downs over the last 4 years, the highest percentage over any 4 year period in NFL history. To go along with leading the NFL ion the fewest punts during that time...and the Bills having the highest point differential as well. Now if the Bills defense could stop folding like a cheap tent in the playoffs we would get and win a super bowl(s)
Only Bills fans overrate Allen, they swear they have the best QB in the league. I think most generally have him properly rated, in the top 5 of the current pack of QBs.
Somehow Josh takes more arrows than any other qb. What would you say If I told you...last yr he somehow passed the dolphins last yr with different OC(couple weeks into the season), no #1 Davis and Diggs, absolutely did nothing after half season. He also had 3 second yr players doing the dirty work that got it done. Josh is currently the second best qb in this league..And I would argue he may be better than Mahomes!
Please do me a favor Speak. Look at Josh Allen's numbers coming out of college & Joe Milton's numbers. Tell me why wasn't Joe a 1st round pick & given the keys to a team like Josh. Watch the combine throws & velocity of the ball for both as well.
Dave said Josh was doing good thing the home stretch went 5-1 but Josh had a 7-6 Td-INT ratio. That's pretty bad. I think Josh is talented but definitely overrated.
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Why would anyone ever do that? This show is so bad, and this segment is just clickbait invented by espn that you took and ran with because you know anything JA#17 related will get engagement, fake or other. You can't even come up with your own clickbait
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Emmanuel "Let me make a long story longer" Acho
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😂😂😂😂😂 I knew it was something I couldn't figure it out
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At this point I 2x speed thru his takes 😂
Emmanuel "I have to remind people I played in the NFL because nobody else actually knows." Acho
Acho talks so much only to make a simple point.
Yeah like bro get to the point
Alotta times he'll say the same thing 3 different ways, and then repeat a couple of em. Like, bro, we get it.
That’s his thing lol
that opening was pretty bad
I forgot what the video was about and wanted to know if he ever got his soup?
This must be a relative of Nick Wright who is the NFL executive 😂
not even near top three, he is over rated
@bottomlineoutdoors6187 I found nick wrights burner account ^ 😂
Hes the most overrated qb by a mile
@@cameronbustos6059That would be Lamar. 6 tds-6 int's multiple fumbles and 2-4 with a 58 completion percentage.
Nick wright would back it up with facts though. The rollercoaster qbr
Sometimes I ask myself, “did I rewind this video or something?” Because Acho will repeat the same point in like 3-4 different ways 😂
Josh Allen is the guy that NFL executive wishes he had
What did being in Rome have to do with that story?
People with a lot of money like to talk about how they have a lot of money.
In their first 5 years of their careers Manning, Marino, Farve had more turn overs than Allen. In 5 years Allen has the most TD's in league history. I think he'll be okay.
So did Elway and Brees and is tied with Tom Brady. I think the exec that said this has to be in the division. Maybe the dolphins where he's 11-2 against 😅
Josh also has the most turnover at this point compared to Peyton. Josh has 102 Peyton has 100. Josh Allen averages 20 turnovers a season. In what world is that not awful his last 4 seasons has averages 43ish TDs a season. So he essentially has a 2-1 TD to turnover ratio (not just INT fumbles too and not just passing rushing as well) in what world is a guy a top 4 QB with a 2-1 TD to turnover ratio?
@@jaedon7022 huh, 2 to 1 td to turnover ratio in what world is that even true, it's not
@@ricblic901 Josh Allen has 221 total touchdowns and 102 turnovers. INTs by season 12,9,10,15,14,18. That's 78. Then fumbles by seasons 2,4,6,3,5,4 that's 24. 78 plus 24 is 102. Then passing TDs 10,20,37,36,35,29. That's 167 passing Tds. Then rushing touchdowns 8,9,8,6,7,15. Total of 53 rushing. 167 plus 53 and 1 receiving TD. Now tell me where I lied at. 221-102 essentially 2-1 TD to INT ratio. Fact check it and tell me I'm wrong.
@@jaedon7022Because he runs the ball 100x more than they did. Duh.
So Acho doesn’t think he’s overrated But agrees with EVERY reason for the exec thinking he’s overrated?? 😂😂😂
I mean he can think that despite all these reasons, he's not overrated
He is absolutely right. To see his logic, just pick anything you DON"T think is overrated, then think of some negative things about it (don't tell me there is none, because nothing is perfect), and put them together like that executive's statement. You can see then why the executive is so wrong. For example: "This Ferrari is so overrated, it's ugly, it's such a gas guzzler, it has terrible ground clearance, it has very limited space" - you see how this statement is so wrong now?
Make a left, a right ,a right , a right, a right, a left. Bro wtf
Left is not right & right is right but if I went left, but I had to go back to ensure left was right n right was left
LMAO
When you’re “anonymous” then your statement is irrelevant
It’s anonymous because it’s be the team they play for
@@manolopmblol I highly doubt that was the bill’s executive
@@manolopmb Copium of a Jests fan
Acho, man…he uses 6,872 words to make a 17 word point 😂
How can you say he’s overrated? He’s a top 5 qb is he not? I’m not saying he’s the best or even the second best. But in the 3-5 range is perfectly fine. And no one thinks he’s the 1st or 2nd, so how is he overrated?
But plenty of people do say he is about as good as Mahomes.
@@huginnmuninn2155 maybe a year and a half ago before he won his second and third superbowl, but no one nowadays has or could even say that they’re even close
Many people consider him #2. But he's #3 for me. Burrow is the one that's really overrated tbh
Because he's been the pre season mvp/SB favorite for the past 5 years. Until this year people were arguing him and mahomes. You can still think he's elite and admit he's overrated
He's not overrated but there was 1 exec that put him as the #1 QB in the poll. And most will put him over Lamar so if you think Lamar's better than Allen, then Allen is definitely being "overrated"
Does anybody just skip over Acho like I cannot listen to him! 💩
The NFL executive is right, Allen has been the preseason MVP favorite for several seasons and the only thing he’s the best at is turnovers.
Yea, cuz the touchdowns aren't a stat, right? Yall make me laugh.
Legit came off a season with most total touchdowns and yards lol
And touchdowns….
Tom Brady and Josh Allen have the same amount of interceptions in their first six seasons and Allen has about 70 more total touchdowns but you do you
4 years 40+tds
This is the first objective and true assessment of Josh Allen from a NFL executive I've seen. 👏🏿
Exec would almost certainly take him for the team though is the thing... as mistake prone as he is.
Wahhhhh Lamar isn’t as good. Cope
@@mikecoates5574Josh Allen is overrated
Racist blacks everywhere
@@roguemaster8099 better then lamar
It’s true. Just because he has a big arm doesn’t mean he picks apart defenses.
😂 but he does tho. As a chiefs fan, Allen is the only threat
@@Mr.Hall3850he really not.. Burrow more of a threat to Mahomes than. He is.. If he can stay healthy
@@justicegaddy burrow is going to lose his own division. The ravens are better
@@Mr.Hall3850 which my comment still stands ....after your opinion that's besides the fact...lol
@justicegaddy dude hasn't played a full season in 2 years. Probability says he'll get injured again this year(would rather he not). Jake browning was playing better than he was last season.
Allen was making turnovers like he was a contestant on Hell's Kitchen, "Calling josh allen overrated? It ... IT MAKES ME MAD"
Yall dont get mad when the 2 time mvp gets hate which is constantly
Lamar is 2 and 4 in the playoffs he choked big difference Allen dont
@@robertschoelerman7496he did choke against bengals in 2022 at home
The coaching staff choked, cut it out
@@rafaelisslaam1894 That wasn't a choke. The Bengals ran the ball down the Bills' throat. The Bengals had the ball for like 41 minutes. Bills only had 19 minutes TOP. They couldn't get the Bengals off the field. Not a choke on Josh. If anything, it's a choke on the Front 7 of the Bills more than anything
@@jctslicenope they had 26 min TOP. that was enough time to throw 42 passes and only get 1 INT out of it
If he's rated over the two-time MVP....he's overrated. Josh balled last year
That’s cause them white people don’t like Lamar 😂😂 Josh is not better then Lamar at all
Acho really said any of you ever been to Rome😂😂😂😂
We definitely needed a Joy Taylor take on this
Anybody that says a qb who has had 40+tds last 4years. And this past season including the playoffs had 51 tds to 18 interceptions are stupid and just haters. But we continue to make excuses for justin Herbert who's (30-32) no playoffs wins and Trevor Lawrence who is (20-30) blame coaching for their shortcomings. 😂😂😂😂😂
Bro, Herbert gets NO criticisms at all and is in every Top 10 QB list 😂. Crazy how they will say Josh Allen and Lamar are overrated but not Herbert. Blows my mind.
He's overrated
@@donnough2085 exactly these same sports" analysts " said in 2018 that baker Mayfield was better than both josh allen and lamar jackson 🤣😂😂😂 wtf are we doing bro- it's a slow news week 🤣😂😂😂😂
Zero SB appearances, Zero MVP, he’s favorited to win every award every year, cover of madden, And what does he have to show for it? He’s the definition of overrated, until proven otherwise.
Defense chokes in the playoffs dawg
The only QB to ever go for 40 plus TD’s in 4 years in a row and have some of the best statistics in NFL history is overrated because his defense chokes in games when he literally carries that team the whole way. Yep must be overrated because every other team besides KC would pick him up in a second if he was released. Even KC fans that i know says that as long as Allen is Buffalo’s QB the Super Bowl window will never close.
No excuses in the playoffs. We don't wanna hear what the defense does. If the defense gives up 30 then score 31 if you're that dude. That's what Mahomes does. Other qbs don't get passes...ask Lamar.
@@getmoney3806 You’re one of those guys. Just tell us you nothing about football while you’re at it. 😂
@@getmoney3806I kinda agree but I felt like Lamar got a bit of a pass for how he played against KC this year compared to how Allen played against KC
QBs Josh Allen has beaten in the playoffs:
Old Phillip Rivers
Lamar Jackson (DNF concussion)
Mac Jones
Mason Rudolph
Skylar Thompson.
In playoffs hes beaten 2.5 Backups, a man 2 weeks from retirement, and a man who got a Brain injury.
Any other elite QB sends him home, Burrow 1x and Mahomes 3x.
gave his defense the lead with 13 seconds tho, lol its funny how yall act like josh allen is the only person on the field
So....he's only lost to two QBs?
Lamar went out late in the game and they were down 2 scores lol
Josh has historic numbers for his playoff career literally go look it up and he plays good against pat but his D don't so blaming him for that is insane josh doesn't play D 😂
Josh allen is inconsistent at times which is why there's even a need to question him at this point, he can silence it if he proves he didn't need Diggs. He's either the best qb in the world for 6-7 games or he's a mid level qb making mistakes, he's a top 3 qb in the league regardless and honestly I'd take him over burrow bc availability is the best ability. Just my opinion tho
Top 3 qb , not up for debate
anyone not named Patrick Mahomes is considered overrated honestly. Herbert, burrow, hurts, Jackson, stroud, Lawrence
Josh doesn’t do what needs to be done in the realest moments
Im a Dallas cowboys fan i would love to have him over Dak
What, like drive the team to win the afc championship game and put them up with 13 seconds left?
Stop Dude just doesn’t have the it factor can’t win the big game never makes enough plays to win close games
@AlexRosner-v8t What? He beat the Chiefs essentially in 13 second game and defense couldn't come through and then this last playoff game, his defense didn't get one stop and kicker missed a FG. This is just dumb. Josh is known for showing up in big games, but losing in games against lesser teams lol. Like your assessment is totally wrong.
He wins more playoff games then black African QBs 🤨🚬
Sounds like the Dolphins GM 😂
That’s exactly what I would say if I didn’t have Josh Allen on my team
I was thinking the same thing
Oh look the Allen haters have come out, they been waiting for this moment forever 😂😂
It’s because he’s the most exciting to watch really.
The odds of Mahomes winning every SB till he retires are zero so eventually Allen, Burrow, Lamar etc. somebody will get one.
The odds of Allem or Lamar winning a SB with their current HC are 0% based on 100+ years of historical data. No QB + HC has ever won their first championship together beyond year 5 together. That's thousands of combinations. Burrow is close to that mark as well. I definitely don't see Harbaugh going anywhere. McDermott and Wilson will need to eventually get fired, but who knows what state the Bills and Bengals will be in by the time that actually happens. And who knows if they'll click with their next coaches. Edit: Overwhelming if a QB + HC don't win a SB by year 3 together they never win one. 5 years is the max it has ever happened to date.
@@vanillatornado8390 So you are saying the Dolphins are winning the Super Bowl this year? Nice.
@@richardolney1822 they have a better shot than Baltimore or Buffalo based on historical data. So does a team like Houston.
The Bengals are going to get one this year and Burrow will get another one before he leaves Cincinnati and maybe one more with another team.
@@NathanDean79 ya why don't u go to vegas and put your house on it since u sounded so confidence..smdh hahaha
Completely agree. Everyone says “most tds” blah blah he’s always top 2 in ints🤦🏾♂️
I mean him by himself had as many touchdowns basically as the entire Baltimore ravens team…but go on lmao. What’s that say about your hero Lamar? Lamar is trash too my g
@@michaelmero426 not even a Lamar Jackson fan but I still doubt his throwing ability. However, any two time mvp In any sport can’t be trash. Josh must have more mvps?😭
@@michaelmero426Are we talking playing TDs or rushing TDs?
@@michaelmero4262x MVP is trash? Definitely the dumbest thing ever said lol
@@user-lt1fx2he5s I’m talking total team touchdowns lol. He had as many as the entire ravens roster
Finally I won’t look like a hater when I truth tell about Josh Allen
Just because an executive said it doesn't mean its the truth buddy
@@braydenbp17 truth is, he has never lived up to the hype, he’s projected to win a SB 4 straight seasons didn’t come close, projected to be MVP last 4 seasons, never even came close, it’s time to realize who he is… a turnover in a jersey
@@TheRealMichaelP he was never projected to win those in four straight seasons that’s impossible and he has one of the best td/int ratios right now you cannot blame him for all of the times they could’ve been in the Super Bowl the defense has sold numerous times have you watched a single Bills game? 😂😂😂
@@braydenbp17 what’s his int/td radio have to do with anything when he fumbles twice a game? That’s why all the people who pick him for MVP and SB on Preseason TV jump right off the bandwagon at some point during the season
@@TheRealMichaelP fumbles twice a game? 🤣🤣🤣 man you definitely haven’t watched a Bills game if anything the fumbles are from stripped sacks dawg 🤣🤣🤣
The fact that they agree about everything on the back end but can’t call him over rated is crazy
@@MrTapout1989 they point out things he can work on, every qb has such a list. Doesn't mean he is overrated.
@@mikep3813let me ask you a question then would you consider Phillip rivers a top three qb when he played? If not then Josh is definitely over rated they numbers are very close in every way
The sports media is going to be outraged that someone finally said the truth about their beloved Josh allen
Josh is so great that they found more success taking the ball out of his hands. Dude only constantly leads the league in turnovers. With taking the ball out of his hands he will be better
wym? last season was josh allens worst year in the last 4 seasons, yall jsut show up to hate and lie while doing it
Josh never lead the league in turnovers
Apparently nobody on the panel knows what overrated means😂
It says "more overated players" You can't even be just overated if there's only two QBs in the league better than you, and nobody is saying you're better than those two...
@@therocket280z7 Technically only one, Burrow is always hurt and has better coaching and talent. The only QB better than me might go down as the second best QB of all time.
@@AilmanF2P I'll agree it's debatable, primarily due to the injury problem. But, the other two are relatively even in my mind. Also, One thing that Burrow and Mahomes figured out real quick, that Allen has yet to, is game management. He needs to learn when to dial it back and keep the other guy off the field. That's why their D becomes a sieve, against the other two.
40 touchdowns to those 18 INTs last year.
He's absolutely overrated if you think he's a top 3 QB in the NFL. He's not overrated if you think he's in the bottom half of the top 10. Josh Allen is the Carmello Anthony of the NFL.
Josh isn't overrated, he's a gun slinger and basically today's Brett Favre.
The black African community will not give him respect because he is white 😅🚬
That's why I wanted my Jets to draft him -- because he was exactly like Favre in college. But I also knew they would make the wrong choice.
Todays Reckless Tony Romo
@@Autobots12344 so Brett Favre...
Yea but Brett Favre Dial Down the Ints in the playoffs and won when it matters
Allen is overrated because some think he’s better than Lamar. It’s simple as that. Allen at 3rd I agree, but he is not a top 2 QB not right now today. That belongs to Mahomes and Lamar.
@@chrischilds368 Allen is #2 and is better than Lamar. Simple as that.
@@dmac33 if he gets a MVP and plays in a AFC championship that wasn’t 4-5 years ago then maybe we can talk.
@@chrischilds368 lol yeah that mvp that had 16 less tds than Allen and a team accomplishment is a great argument lol. Keep grasping
@@dmac33 think about that. Why didn’t Allen get the MVP if he had such a great season? lmao. Lamar’s better decision making was one of the determining factors.
I agree Allen isn’t even better than burrow, i got Allen as the 4th best QB in the league. Burrow has beat mahomes 3x and been to a SB & he’s also 2-0 against Allen.
I'd be willing to bet there are at least 25 teams who would gladly trade their starting QB straight up for Josh Allen.
Anyone who calls Diggs overrated needs to look at that pass Diggs dropped vs. the chiefs. Only 3 people alive could have made that throw.
He’s overrated because he’s tall, white and has a big arm. The Justin Herbert prototype.
Dude just doesn’t have the it factor can’t win the big game never makes enough plays to win close games .
But you can be a black African fella that can't win playoff games and you are the best 🤦🚬
He's actually more in the Cam Newton mold just an absolute beast of a QB. Except he's a better version of Cam.
@@goodnightmunchiethat black African American QB that you are talking about gets criticized way more than any Caucasian White QB🤷🏽♂️ That Black African you are talking about wins MVPs with no #1 type WRs💯 Although that White Caucasian QB they are talking about has had a #1 Wr & plenty good WRs his whole career & hasn’t even won a MVP at all. He turns the ball over a whole lot though😂😅🤣
@@goodnightmunchieCuz that black guy is doing it without a Top10 WR to throw to, also for 5yrs was killing while his OC couldn't even put together a NFL level passing scheme
He definitely over rated
And you're definitely a casual...
Your a idiot that don't watch football every metric and stat proves u wrong
Dude just doesn’t have the it factor can’t win the big game never makes enough plays to win close games
@AlexRosner-v8t defense is required. Woulda had a superbowl ring already if not for defensive blunders. And you'd know that if you watched football.
@@AlexRosner-v8t You are stupid
In other news, NFL Exec whose team will end the season with 4 wins thinks top 3 QB is overrated.
Overrated means he’s given more credit than he deserves. Saying he’s 3rd with no MVP or Super Bowl appearances makes him overrated
This is news? Dude has been the most overhyped player in the league for years now
Did you watch the video. They say he delivered. That is not overhyped.
Josh Allen not overrated yall tripping
What I would give to not have Acho on television anymore
why care about someone who dare not use his name to give an opinion?
Emmanuel “buck-dancing-I went to Rome but never Nigeria” Acho! I can’t stand this sellout 🤡
What? That comment made no sense
The fact that two of these dudes mentioned Josh with the 3 time Super Bowl MVP is precisely why he’s overrated 😂 they literally did the thing the quote was talking about. Josh isn’t even close to a Mahomes but yall hype him up and try to do a comparison lol
No other QB is close to Mahomes!!! No other QB has the TDS JOSH HAS...HE has more than any other QB in the NFL..1ST QB to have 40+ TDS 4 yrs in a row.
@@biblebeltfishingMahomes plays to win not beef up his stats
@caroldavidson1891 Josh can't help his team loses a game in 13 sec. Josh has lost more playoff games from his DDD than any other QB right now
@@biblebeltfishing Who cares about TDs in a specific span of years if you get spanked first round every year. Anybody can beat up on the usual 4-6 mid teams a year, not saying Josh is trash but he has done nothing to get the comparisons to Mahomes. Nobody looks back and say “Peyton led the league in TDs between 2008-2012” lol it’s irrelevant to the big picture. Turn on the tape and watch them play… Josh is better off being compared to a Burrow or maybe maybe shouldn’t even be compared to Lamar (2XMVP)
@@caroldavidson1891 So you think if Mahomes was on the Bills he would have 3 rings? Josh went to a team that hadn't gone to the playoffs in 20 years. His head coach should have been fired by now.
Agreed. Same for Jackson. There is Mahomes and there is nothing.
nah cj stroud next up
Jackson is PROVEN. Allen and Burrow not so much.
That doesn't mean they're overrated. That means that Mahomes is on another level. Those aren't the same thing
@aaronhugz4277 what has he proven in the playoffs?
@@dorothyhunter4656 the same thing Josh Allen and Joe Burrow proved😂😂😂
Josh Allen has had to be literal Superman every single game for the Bills to win.
And you’re surprised he forces throws and turns the ball over sometimes?
LOOK AT THE TOUCHDOWNS
1. Mahomes
2. Lamar
3. Allen
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Tua-Goff-Burrow etc....
Man I want to like Acho so much, but he can't help but come across as a dollar store Stephen A. Smith.
Best QB currently who hasn't won a SB
Better than Lamar? 🤔
He still wins more playoff games then black African QBs 🧐🚬
Lmao why is everyone on his Nuts, stop this Josh Allen isn't better than Joe Burrow and to be honest he's not even better than Lamar Jackson. What has be done? I'll be honest as a Bengals fan. We love playing the bills, they're like our younger brothers. Josh Included
@Avsfan23 1000%. Are you serious? Josh Allen vs Lamar is not even a debate. Lamar shrinks in playoffs and can't throw accurately on a consistent basis.
@TRX247 the bengals have as many super bowls as us 😂. What has burrow done? Allen's stats are way better than burrows in the playoffs it's not close
I bet The Ravens would not trade Lamar for Josh!
Bet the would...
@@davidmaly5464 why would they do that, what will they gain?
@@prestonjohnson829hmm a QB that can throw the deep ball with better accuracy and spread the field better and can also run as well when the pocket collapses and much harder to bring down than Lamar.
@@leo29hornsfan ok, so wat hardware do he have again? Remember LJ and Josh came in together and Lamar has the 2nd best win/lose behind only Patrick! It is a job tackling Josh, but you can't catch LJ, plus Josh running is not the same as LJ's running! Josh throws a lot of pics way more than LJ. There's no way a GM is going to make that trade, bcuz it makes no sense! It's not an up grade at the position, so you never trade sideways! I kept this fun and did not get technical about the break down.
I’d hope they wouldn’t. They can keep lamar
If somebody said Lamar overrated this show would’ve agreed with it 😂
Who are the other overrated players, for point of reference? Josh had 44 combined TDs last year. His net of TDs minus turnovers over multiple seasons is second only to Mahomes. So what’s overrated with him? This sounds like an oldster exec who doesn’t understand stats and is flying by gut.
That’s not evening showing the rushing yards, which puts him over Mahomes.
They always cut the years off to make Allen look closer to Mahomes. Do the last 6 years. Big difference lmao
Ignorance mixed with jealousy and envy and a touch of hatred
Left is not right & right is right but if I went left, but I had to go back to ensure left was right n right was left
Listen up kids.
Josh Allen. The lowest, lowest interception rate in the playoffs, all time. All time! 1.1%
Most TDs in his first 6 years than any other QB in history. All time!
If anything, he’s underrated.
Acho telling a story gives me extreme anxiety.
sports media is not asleep concerning josh allen, he just hasn't lived up to ya'll's hype. his trophy case is bare. the dude needs to at least win an MVP to keep him relevant and to warrant all the sport media worship.
Acho is the face of someone who loves to hear themselves talk
I think acho is a very eloquent and well spoken guy. They make him the lead for a reason! Idk why yall saying he talks too much maybe you’re too slow to keep up!
Anyone that thinks Allen is overrated has an imperfect understanding of football, probably due to the way the media controls the narrative of performance. Allen dominates both basic and advanced statistics. Even if you think he's a turnover machine, his positive plays outweigh the negatives so heavily that its not even remotely a net problem. People are just somehow not smart enough to remember that a quarterback only accounts for about 20% of a team's success.
This wasn't just anybody. This was "an anonymous executive". You put some respect on this faceless fool!
Those turnovers are a problem, my man.
The exect didn't lie....
Whoever said that quote is a clown. Just watch a bills game, Allen changes the play all the time and is really good at going through his reads. His biggest (and honestly only) issue is forcing crazy hard throws too often
Acho has been so much better the couple days just being watchable
I’m a Chiefs fan but I agree with Dave-Josh Allen should have been MVP last year.
Acho can talk the entire segment and still say nothing.
I don’t think Josh Allen is overrated if it wasn’t for maholmes in his way Allen would most likely have a couple rings at least
If you subscribe to the thought that his expectations were to win a SB, i agree he’s “overrated”.
With a normal level of expectation there is no way this man is anywhere near overrated
Plot twist, it was his own GM that said it. He’s trying to light the fire.
Aaron Jones is an elite analyst
I bet that same executive will give his quarterback up right now for old Josh😂
Why do the media go above and beyond to protect Josh Allen. I’ll never understand
Because he’s good and you’re just a hater like everyone else
not to mention Allen has converted an absolutely absurd 49.0% of 3rd downs over the last 4 years, the highest percentage over any 4 year period in NFL history. To go along with leading the NFL ion the fewest punts during that time...and the Bills having the highest point differential as well. Now if the Bills defense could stop folding like a cheap tent in the playoffs we would get and win a super bowl(s)
You can be a very good player and still be overrated. The two are not mutually exclusive
Acho, “what time is?”
Arch “what is time, and why is it important. Follow me big dawg, you see time…..(10mins later) it’s 5p”
Makes sense on why everyone hated Josh Allen coming out the draft and labeled him as a bust.
Only Bills fans overrate Allen, they swear they have the best QB in the league. I think most generally have him properly rated, in the top 5 of the current pack of QBs.
JA 17 the nicest guy ever and everyone hates him 😂
He hates it because it’s not about dak!
Somehow Josh takes more arrows than any other qb. What would you say If I told you...last yr he somehow passed the dolphins last yr with different OC(couple weeks into the season), no #1 Davis and Diggs, absolutely did nothing after half season. He also had 3 second yr players doing the dirty work that got it done. Josh is currently the second best qb in this league..And I would argue he may be better than Mahomes!
Would be hilarious if it was Brandon Beane who said that. Putting some anonymous bulletin board for Josh to add to that chip on his shoulder.
Of course turnover machine (Brett Favre Jr.) is overrated yo…!!!🙄🙄🙄
Please do me a favor Speak. Look at Josh Allen's numbers coming out of college & Joe Milton's numbers. Tell me why wasn't Joe a 1st round pick & given the keys to a team like Josh. Watch the combine throws & velocity of the ball for both as well.
I’m sorry I can get out of this is whether Acho goes left or right he’s always lost😮
I love how no one mentions he got good as soon as he got diggs
Allen been robbed of mvp 2 times he’s not overrated guy has most touchdowns every season yall delusional
Josh Allen and Herbert are the two most overrated qbs in the last 5 years
Dave said Josh was doing good thing the home stretch went 5-1 but Josh had a 7-6 Td-INT ratio. That's pretty bad. I think Josh is talented but definitely overrated.
David Helman is an expert on bad takes. As he has more in a week than I have in a year