I have Gen 1 heads and a 2022 GT500 blower, I had to cut off the dowels, but I didn't have to drill for the fuel rail bolts. It already had the bolts with it and they thread right into the heads with no issues. I replaced by cam cap bolts and luckily I saved the old ones because they are the perfect size to use to mount the blower. I'm probably going to run the full Predator FEAD on mine so I'll have an 8 rib belt on the blower. I believe I'll have less than $5K into the entire setup.
Some GT500 Predator Superchargers have the four holes predrilled and some do not, mine did not. Those cam cap bolts should not be reused as most of the factory bolts on the engine are torque to yield bolts and are a one time use only. I have first hand watched torque to yield bolts snap when reused. The VMP Predator FEAD is a 6 rib kit and you will have to upgrade all of the pulleys and tensioner to run an 8 rib.
@@OrlandoMustangResto I might get some new bolts soon. Oreilly's has the right size/grade bolts for about $10 for all 6. I was going to re-use the ones I have but IDK. Technically they're torqued to barely 8ft/lbs from the factory so they can't possibly be stretched, but I'm paranoid.
@@Lilljoescratch You can - but generally, aftermarket throttle bodies do not have as good driveability as the factory OEM throttle body. Also, you would maybe gain 5hp so no real gain to chase. All tuners always recommend stock OEM Ford throttle body.
Pretty cool. What would you say it cost you all said and done. I can easily do all the work myself so just curious on cost of parts. Im debating of doing an ess kit or if i can actually save a good amount of money i may do this ony gen 2
Depends how you want to use and drive the car. An ESS kit is not the same style supercharger as this and the power curves on a dyno look different. I would choose a TVS style blower like this Predator again because it gives a much more consistent low end torque that carries all the way through where an ESS is great for only mid 4,500+ rpm. The Predator swap all depends on how cheap you buy the blower and right now they are the cheapest 2650 TVS for sale on the market so yes it’s worth it esp if you are handy and can do everything yourself like I did also. Shelby American (aka Shelby Auctions) sells them directly on eBay for really cheap!
What size bolts did you use to mount the blower? (Not the 4 bolts/studs used for the fuel rails that you drilled out) Were they the 6 bolts from your intake manifold from when you were procharged?
Nice, I was looking at doing the same swap on my 14 GT. What did you pay for the blower and how much would you say you have as a total investment into doing this blower swap?
I’d say it all depends on how cheap you buy the blower as that’s really the most expensive part to the conversion. Shelby American on eBay (shelbyauctions) sells these blowers from take off gt500’s for dirt cheap and when I got mine from them it was in almost brand new condition.
Hi there and thank you!! So far I landed on K060685 for the 11-14 factory cars with AC, using the VMP No-grind FEAD kit (6 Rib). I'm also running a 2020 + GT500 5.2 Predator Balancer from Ford Performance.
@@OrlandoMustangResto Perfect, thank you. The 2011-2017 GT's run the same air conditioning belt so that'll help tremendously, should be the same for all Gen1&2 with the VMP kit which I also have!
You kept mentioning you got it cheap, what was the price of the head unit? Just wanting to compare that to prices I’m seeing to gauge what’s a good deal or not.
How do you drill and tap into the blower ? I know it a dumb or sound stupid but never really did nun like this and scared to drill into this expensive blower and mess it up?
Thank you! Just wanted to make these videos to help others do the same. For the evap solenoid, I removed the factory plastic hard line between the solenoid and the intake and just used a rubber hose with clamps to connect directly into the edge of the solenoid to Predator blower.
@@chrisfowler7135 I’m glad to hear it! It’s a great setup and it’s a ton of fun once your tune is dialed in. I have some other videos on my channel that may help you get it together faster.
@@chrisfowler7135 sorry I missed your comment, but plenty loud and well worth the conversion to do this. The VMP Apex Predator Lid definitely makes it SING!
Good video man. I sorta want to do this on my 2015 GT. I just with there was a hard copy write up and a parts list everything you need and have to do. I feel like I'm going to get into swap and run into a lot of custom stuff having to be done and very few people will be able to help me out. lol... That's why I will probably just go with a ESS kit.
Hi, You have to cut the intake flange off to allow the blower to sit down in the valley. I used moving blankets to cover everything and 3M auto paint tape over the intake ports and took a cutting wheel on a grinder and cut about 1/4" off of the edge of the cylinder heads where the intake sits down on (similar to how Gen 1 heads look).
@@OrlandoMustangResto you are correct, last question. What did you use for a heat exchanger? I was doing research and asking around and 2 people said I could use mishimotos 1000hp universal heat exchanger
@@manlikeghidorah1994 Department of Boost Titanic heat exchanger with their biggest CWA pump running 1” lines - works so well and barely any heat soak at all while dyno pulling.
Hi there, the Predator balancer is not required. I only picked it because I would like to upgrade one day to an 8 rib drive setup and the other alternative rear 8 rib balancers were more expensive at the time I built the motor. If you are staying with the 6/6 rib Coyote balancer, I would use an ATI 11-14 or 15-17 Coyote balancer and not the stock ford balancer.
@@austinstull25I will say though, I’m on a 2.9” VMP pulley right now and with their 6 rib no grind FEAD kit, there is ZERO belt slip which is really amazing. I hope that reassures you also!
@@zekevillarreal2694I’m on a 2.9” pulley now but going to dyno tune again with VMP Performance at Carlise Ford Nationals and try to go down to 2.7 or 2.6 - but my block is a 9.5:1 compression Gen 3 Aluminator so I can push it unlike an 11:1 or 12:1 motor.
@@zekevillarreal2694 so I’m on pump gas because I can’t get E85 where I live. So I’m on a 2.9” upper for now and going to see at Carlise what VMP Performance says we can pulley down to while on pump and be safe for daily driving. Keep in mind, I built myself a 3-2-1 9.5:1 Gen 3 Aluminator and not a 11:1 or 12:1 motor which shouldn’t go past 10psi or so to keep it safe. It’s actually more beneficial to have the Predator supercharger at that boost level to maintain decent IAT2 (with stock oem made in china intercooler and lid.) I upgraded to the VMP Apex Race Intercooler and VMP Apex Lid only because I want to push max safe boost on pump with the Aluminator and leave it alone to live a happy life.
@@OrlandoMustangResto cool deal. I’m running a 3.4 pulley. Getting my swap all done this week ! Haven’t had nobody to really help me so just looking for some insight !
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I have Gen 1 heads and a 2022 GT500 blower, I had to cut off the dowels, but I didn't have to drill for the fuel rail bolts. It already had the bolts with it and they thread right into the heads with no issues. I replaced by cam cap bolts and luckily I saved the old ones because they are the perfect size to use to mount the blower. I'm probably going to run the full Predator FEAD on mine so I'll have an 8 rib belt on the blower. I believe I'll have less than $5K into the entire setup.
Some GT500 Predator Superchargers have the four holes predrilled and some do not, mine did not. Those cam cap bolts should not be reused as most of the factory bolts on the engine are torque to yield bolts and are a one time use only. I have first hand watched torque to yield bolts snap when reused. The VMP Predator FEAD is a 6 rib kit and you will have to upgrade all of the pulleys and tensioner to run an 8 rib.
@@OrlandoMustangResto I might get some new bolts soon. Oreilly's has the right size/grade bolts for about $10 for all 6. I was going to re-use the ones I have but IDK. Technically they're torqued to barely 8ft/lbs from the factory so they can't possibly be stretched, but I'm paranoid.
Can I use an 85 mm BBK throttlebody
I have that on my NA build right now G1 coyote
@@Lilljoescratch You can - but generally, aftermarket throttle bodies do not have as good driveability as the factory OEM throttle body. Also, you would maybe gain 5hp so no real gain to chase. All tuners always recommend stock OEM Ford throttle body.
Pretty cool. What would you say it cost you all said and done. I can easily do all the work myself so just curious on cost of parts. Im debating of doing an ess kit or if i can actually save a good amount of money i may do this ony gen 2
Depends how you want to use and drive the car. An ESS kit is not the same style supercharger as this and the power curves on a dyno look different. I would choose a TVS style blower like this Predator again because it gives a much more consistent low end torque that carries all the way through where an ESS is great for only mid 4,500+ rpm. The Predator swap all depends on how cheap you buy the blower and right now they are the cheapest 2650 TVS for sale on the market so yes it’s worth it esp if you are handy and can do everything yourself like I did also. Shelby American (aka Shelby Auctions) sells them directly on eBay for really cheap!
good to see you got your blower from them. i was gonna bid for one a few times but i was skeptical figured it was a scam
Yes! They were fantastic and its especially better to know the blower came from the real deal!
What size bolts did you use to mount the blower? (Not the 4 bolts/studs used for the fuel rails that you drilled out) Were they the 6 bolts from your intake manifold from when you were procharged?
It's the same M6 thread pitch just like the other stock manifolds
@@OrlandoMustangResto Thanks man! currently getting a parts list put together for my blow swap on my gen 1! Any updates on your S197?
Did you add a pulley kit or something, so the belt would fit?
Nice, I was looking at doing the same swap on my 14 GT. What did you pay for the blower and how much would you say you have as a total investment into doing this blower swap?
I’d say it all depends on how cheap you buy the blower as that’s really the most expensive part to the conversion. Shelby American on eBay (shelbyauctions) sells these blowers from take off gt500’s for dirt cheap and when I got mine from them it was in almost brand new condition.
What size belt did you run? I'll be installing mine in my 2017 when it gets back from being ported. Nice job on it!
Hi there and thank you!! So far I landed on K060685 for the 11-14 factory cars with AC, using the VMP No-grind FEAD kit (6 Rib). I'm also running a 2020 + GT500 5.2 Predator Balancer from Ford Performance.
@@OrlandoMustangResto Perfect, thank you. The 2011-2017 GT's run the same air conditioning belt so that'll help tremendously, should be the same for all Gen1&2 with the VMP kit which I also have!
@@ThatBlueRocket yes, the front drive for the factory alternator and water pump stays the exact same which is a huge plus!
You kept mentioning you got it cheap, what was the price of the head unit? Just wanting to compare that to prices I’m seeing to gauge what’s a good deal or not.
However cheap you can get it online, I got mine from Shelby Auctions on Ebay (aka Shelby American's Ebay store)
@@OrlandoMustangResto I get that, how much did you pay for yours?
Nice job, great video! 👍🏻
Thank you! Here to help others have the same fun I’m having!
How do you drill and tap into the blower ? I know it a dumb or sound stupid but never really did nun like this and scared to drill into this expensive blower and mess it up?
Check out my other videos explaining how to do this and you won't mess it up because there's plenty of room between the intake runners to drill.
Nice video, thanks for taking the time. How did you hook up the evap fuel solenoid from the 14 to the Predator Supercharger ?
Thank you! Just wanted to make these videos to help others do the same. For the evap solenoid, I removed the factory plastic hard line between the solenoid and the intake and just used a rubber hose with clamps to connect directly into the edge of the solenoid to Predator blower.
Thanks, My Supercharger is on the way, trying to get all of the connections squared away in my head @@OrlandoMustangResto
@@chrisfowler7135 I’m glad to hear it! It’s a great setup and it’s a ton of fun once your tune is dialed in. I have some other videos on my channel that may help you get it together faster.
What Is the blower whine like ? Plenty loud ? Hard to hear ?? @@OrlandoMustangResto
@@chrisfowler7135 sorry I missed your comment, but plenty loud and well worth the conversion to do this. The VMP Apex Predator Lid definitely makes it SING!
Good video man. I sorta want to do this on my 2015 GT. I just with there was a hard copy write up and a parts list everything you need and have to do. I feel like I'm going to get into swap and run into a lot of custom stuff having to be done and very few people will be able to help me out. lol... That's why I will probably just go with a ESS kit.
It's so worth it and the cheapest I have seen out there so far if you do your homework and source the parts out.
What method did you use to clearance the intake flanges on gen2 heads?
Hi, You have to cut the intake flange off to allow the blower to sit down in the valley. I used moving blankets to cover everything and 3M auto paint tape over the intake ports and took a cutting wheel on a grinder and cut about 1/4" off of the edge of the cylinder heads where the intake sits down on (similar to how Gen 1 heads look).
Can I run gt500 injectors on my gen 2 coyote? Or can they only work with gen 3 coyotes
I believe you can run gt500 injectors but confirm with your tuner first before purchasing or trying to run it.
@@OrlandoMustangResto you are correct, last question. What did you use for a heat exchanger? I was doing research and asking around and 2 people said I could use mishimotos 1000hp universal heat exchanger
@@manlikeghidorah1994 Department of Boost Titanic heat exchanger with their biggest CWA pump running 1” lines - works so well and barely any heat soak at all while dyno pulling.
Is the 5.2 predator balancer required?
Why did you go with that over stock?
Hi there, the Predator balancer is not required. I only picked it because I would like to upgrade one day to an 8 rib drive setup and the other alternative rear 8 rib balancers were more expensive at the time I built the motor. If you are staying with the 6/6 rib Coyote balancer, I would use an ATI 11-14 or 15-17 Coyote balancer and not the stock ford balancer.
@@OrlandoMustangResto Thanks, I'll probably go with an 8 rib like you, just in case... my blower comes in a few days, can't wait to get it running.
@@austinstull25I will say though, I’m on a 2.9” VMP pulley right now and with their 6 rib no grind FEAD kit, there is ZERO belt slip which is really amazing. I hope that reassures you also!
@@austinstull25 also just curious, where did you get your blower and parts from? Thanks!
swap list ?
Whats the part number on the belt you used ?
I believe for the stock 3.0" upper pulley, I found a K060690 works.
Awesome ! Thank you. What pulley and belt combo are you running now ?
@@zekevillarreal2694I’m on a 2.9” pulley now but going to dyno tune again with VMP Performance at Carlise Ford Nationals and try to go down to 2.7 or 2.6 - but my block is a 9.5:1 compression Gen 3 Aluminator so I can push it unlike an 11:1 or 12:1 motor.
@@zekevillarreal2694 so I’m on pump gas because I can’t get E85 where I live. So I’m on a 2.9” upper for now and going to see at Carlise what VMP Performance says we can pulley down to while on pump and be safe for daily driving. Keep in mind, I built myself a 3-2-1 9.5:1 Gen 3 Aluminator and not a 11:1 or 12:1 motor which shouldn’t go past 10psi or so to keep it safe. It’s actually more beneficial to have the Predator supercharger at that boost level to maintain decent IAT2 (with stock oem made in china intercooler and lid.) I upgraded to the VMP Apex Race Intercooler and VMP Apex Lid only because I want to push max safe boost on pump with the Aluminator and leave it alone to live a happy life.
@@OrlandoMustangResto cool deal. I’m running a 3.4 pulley. Getting my swap all done this week ! Haven’t had nobody to really help me so just looking for some insight !
Did you add a pulley kit or something, so the belt would fit?
Hi there, yes and i got all of my parts from VMP Performance as they have a whole line of parts to do this supercharger conversion