[2.6] The Thief Was Not Scaramouche - Genshin Impact Irodori Festival Recap and Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2022
- Scaramouche has done a lot of awful things, but I don't think rummaging through Kazuha's stuff was one of them. This video has a quick recap and summary of the main Irodori event quest plus two small theories.
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Husk of Opulent Dreams
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Katsuragikiri Nagamasa
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The Palace Dyed in Black
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Musou Isshin
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**NOTES AND CORRECTIONS**
Phyrex pointed out something really interesting that does change the "Niwa" section of this video entirely. I'll be addressing this in a related video, but here's the gist:
Nagamasa's full name is Mikoshi Nagamasa, but he's referred to as "Nagamasa-sama." Katsuragi is referenced as "Katsuragi-sama." Nagamasa outranks Katsuragi, so it would make sense for him to be addressed with more respect than Katsuragi(like his last name instead of his first), but he's not. This heavily suggests that, for consistency purposes, Katsuragi is a FIRST NAME and not a last name.
This is actually supported by the fact that the characters used for Katsuragi are unusual and don't match the characters normally used whenever Katsuragi is used as a surname. I never gave this much thought prior to Phyrex pointing it out, so I'm now convinced that Katsuragi's full name is Niwa Katsuragi, which WOULD make Kazuha his descendent.
I still stand by the other observations but for different reasons. :P
Alternative Explanation after the Inazuma Story quest.
Despite your use of Evidence. The thief who sneaked into the Warehouse multiple nights in a Row was Scaramouche because that's what the Writers wanted.
helloo ashikai, i find that scaramouche's connection to Niwa Katsuragi and the swordsmiths of his past is very interesting and I was wondering if you would like to make a video about it explaining the story of inazuma around the time during the plague of tatarasuna (the blacksmithing families and the corruption from the crystal marrow) and how whether knowing that kazuha is a descendant of the niwa clan will change anything about the way scaramouche feels, like how would this affect future patches with scaramouche's presence, would scaramouche finally get his "redemption arc" through kazuha? how would it play off? i heard from leaks that scaramouche might become a weekly boss, although i'm not sure if he will be fighting the traveler, along with kazuha (maybe?) or even with ei cause they really need to clear up their issues.
i can't remember if you did this already in a video but i have terrible memory and limited screentime so i might as well post this before i forget. i would do my own research on his lore if i could but i'm too unbelievably dense to comprehend anything or make any logical conclusions. Even as i'm writing this, i'm depending solely on my last 2 remaining braincells and I'm lucky to have even made it this far with my rambling. thank you for listening to my ted talk because i don't even know what i just wrote
I did make one, but you shouldn't let that stop you from making your own version!
it's just funnier to imagine high and mighty scaramouche rumaging through a warehouse
RIGHT like just imagine him digging through stuff cursing and muttering under his breath 😂
@ZE Brigitte sounds like a nice team actually xD if scara's a dps
edit: I think the team was something about Raiden, Yae, Kazuha and Scara, if anyone's curious
Scara? High? Pfftt
@@skaramouche1606 true lmao
The funniest part about the possibility of Tortellini being the one rummaging through the storage room is the fact the spy never figured out the solution was getting the papers wet, which is understandable because that's cryptic af if you don't know about this ink, but also, it's hilarious because Childe is a HYDRO USER.
Then again, I was constantly yelling "make Xingqiu kick the paper!" whenever the Scooby Doo gang had to walk to a pond.
To be fair, Hydro is made of different water compared to normal water, so even if Childe or Xingqiu used their hydromancy, it wouldn't work and the secret letters won't show on the paper.
@@patientspooky
After Albedo painted the Final Portrait, i used Xingqui to let scara appear, so it does work!
The one searching the Kaedehara clan's belongings never found the papers in the first place and didn't even know if they existed.
@@patientspooky you can literally use a hydro unit to show the image using their skill or burst and why would hydro be different from normal water anyways
@@sladeTek while Hydro and water do share properties, there are strong hints ingame that they are NOT the same thing. Teyvat Elements are toxic to regular humans while water is of course drinkable. You can actually check Ashikai theory vídeo about radioactive fallout in Teyvat for more info on this
Going back on the portrait the second time bells started ringing in my head that there was another Fatui Spy allegedly dealing with erasing Scaramouche, which paints Ayato's dialogue as even vaguer than first glance.
But the thought of Scaramouche going into that warehouse with his hat still on is very amsing to me.
funny hat man enters warehouse with something ppl would remember
You'd think he'd knock everything over while he was rummaging
@@Ashikai He channels all his stealth points into keeping the hat out of the way. This is why he's always grandstanding, he's out of subtlety juice.
he has those little 'hooks' on each side of the hat so I can imagine it getting stuck on a curtain but he's too stubborn to take the damn hat off
ASTERR!!
the thief not being scara completely went over my head,, but it not being him makes a lot sense. I cant wait for your next video on him he is such an interesting character!!
Here's a bonus wack theory: it's possible that whoever broke into the warehouse actually planted the letter there for Kazuha to find. I had the impression that magic appearing-ink is a somewhat recent invention, making it a bit strange that a Kaedehara from hundreds of years ago wrote a long invisible letter with it. The break-in doesn't serve much story purpose if the thief failed to find anything (and wasn't even Scaramouche), and it's kind of weird that nobody found that letter for like 200 years until Ayato and Kazuha both found it independently. If this is true, it could be the Fatui attempting to draw Scara out of hiding; they might know enough of his backstory.
One thing does make me doubt the thief not being Scara, though--in that last scene, Ayato says he didn't bother chasing the culprit because "the identity of [the thief] is not hard to guess" which doesn't make a whole lot of sense if it was Childe (who he's never met) or just a random Fatui agent. If it wasn't Scara, it must have been someone easy for an Inazuman to recognize, and/or obvious for some other reason. Maybe Ayato's just doing his galaxy-brain stuff again.
but both Ayaka and xingqui said the ink is an old invention, we don't know the reason for the break in yet but it most likely one of the 3 answers to the question Ayato gave us at the end, the fatui are trying to hide something about scara.
As for the thief I think it was clear that it wasn't scara, the traveler clearly stated that a Fatui spy broke in something he wouldn't have said if it was scara.
@@naboume466 i was gonna say this too, and also I don't find it hard to believe the special ink was used even in the generation of kazuha's great grandfather. Inazuma even in the past was a very political country, even the shumatsuban, a secret organization of stealth trained people, existed. Wouldn't be surprised if people from noble clans and such frequently used it to avoid detection in letters and messages for one reason or another. Maybe the ink was one of those open secrets kind of deal only within the political circle and commonfolk didn't really know about it
The "identity" Ayato refers to might be a bit different. Less like: "Oh, that's Tartaglia, one of the Fatui harbingers" and more like: "That guy is a Fatui harbinger."
He does probably know about Childe tho, since he’s friends with Thoma. And the traveler absolutely knows him, so it’s possible Ayato knows about that domain bc he has spies
that was such good analysis you should get a lore chanel yourself
imma laugh so much if it was heizou just trying to play detective and rummaging around
LOL
You know what, this is what really happened and nothing will ever change that lmao.
I will continue to believe that it was scara for the simple fact that it's funny to imagine scara with his big ass hat just tossing shit looking for a paper and ayato snickering in the corner as he does that. I'm not sorry
Thief: Was Scaramouche
Or was it? *Vsauce theme plays*
Isshin has many different meanings in Japanese, depending on the Kanji used.
I don't know which Kanji was used though, so maybe it's the isshin that means wholeheartedly.
一心 - isshin - one's whole heart; wholeheartedly
一新 - isshin - complete change; reform; restoration; remodeling; remodelling; renewal
一身 - isshin - oneself; one's own interests; throughout the body
both the musou isshin and the isshin art of the raiden gokaden use the first meaning
@@the5002ndpanda thanks 👍
Makes me wonder if the intepretations can indicate how different the branches within isshin art came about. Yknow, if you read Haran Futsu and Kagotsurobe Isshin, they mention about clans of Isshin art. Akame, Niwa and Kaedehara. It is shown in Haran Futsu that the originator of Isshin art learn from the futsu blacksmith the art of forging. They are Akame, Niwa and Kaedehara. Akame clan focus on creating an extremely sharp sword, Niwa in clay tempering with great diligence and honesty and Kaedehara based on preserving the mentor's teaching. They all have different focus yet a singular focus. I havent read the real Kanji for Isshin but having 3 ways of interpretting makes me wonder if the existence of 3 clans within Isshin Art has a connection.
I'm really into the Niwa-Katsuragi theory. In Chinese and Japanese culture, the 桂木 tree (katsuragi) is part of a myth where a man is punished by the gods to trim the 桂木 tree for all eternity.
When Yoshinori said his father disappeared before being adopted into the Kaedehara family, it made me think Katsuragi is his fake name but a fitting one. He might have fled for a crime he committed against the shogun and didn't want to tell his son. Helping Scaramouche until the end might have been his way for atoning his past crimes. However, it only leads into his downfall. He's never able to make things right and his death only perpetuates an endless path for revenge.
So…a few things I’d like to add:
1. Ayato didn’t complicate things unnecessary, he gave Kazuha the choice of whether to pursue the truth or not, since he knows that is a very personal past for Kazuha and the truth may not be something he wanted to know. Hence the ‘test’ to see if Kazuha has the will and mind to figure out the truth.
2. Kazuha was fine without knowing who actually did it to his family because what he wanted was the truth of what happened to his family and the real reason of failing to forge the weapon. As someone who wanted to be free from the family legacy, knowing who the ‘mastermind’ actually is isn’t necessary, since he doesn’t really care about who this ‘Kunikuzushi’ is, as long as he knows what happened, that’s enough for him. Heck, he might not even know that this ‘Kunikuzushi’ is still alive, since the incident was great-grandfather-level old, it’s just old history to him.
3. Yoshinori (and even the Kamisato at the time) was afraid that being spared by the person who single-handedly sabotaged almost all katana smithing technics would mean having connections unknown to them to the culprit, and that was enough to have themselves executed. The events simply made them paranoid of what would happen if others find out the truth.
4. The reason why Scaramouch spared Yoshinori was as simple as him being a descendant of Niwa, whether the Niwa’s were the descendants of Katsuragi or someone else he knew doesn’t really affect his choice of sparing them. As to why he stopped revenging after this, I’d say it has nothing to do with Yoshinori, but it was the Raiden Shogun’s near-zero reaction that made him realize the whole revenge against the Gokaden (which was actually revenge against Raiden Ei) was pointless. It was more like a kid doing bad things for experiment to see how the mother would react and got bored when she did nothing, and the thing with Katsuragi only provided an excuse for him to do so (or that’s what he thought, not knowing that he really cared for Katsuragi).
Thank you
I'm not sold on the idea that he was doing it for Ei's attention, and I'm not sure why his revenge would be turned towards her either. He swore revenge against the raiden gokaden, not Ei. The art of swordsmithinf may have come from the shogun, but there were two. We don't know that Ei was solely responsible for that given that Makoto was the one who used a sword. I guess it's not impossible, but I struggle to make it work in my head.
@@Ashikai Scaramouche felt abandoned when she set him free. To her it was an act of mercy (compared to Gold literally feeding defective Albedos to Durin), but she never communicated with him afterwards (probably hardly any beforehand either, seeing how he turned out to be), instead she just shut herself in her realm and went back to meditation. The fact that he told Yoshinori to “tell her” is quite obvious that he wanted her to know “I did it”, if not I don’t see any reason let tell her anything.
I have a suspicion that kazuha is gonna make the blade
I assume by “zen’d out foil” you’re talking about Kazuha lol which I think would be so interesting if HYV is going down that route considering how Kazuha and Scaramouche both have some similarities in their backstories in terms of loss but they both have handled grief very differently. Now that I think of it I feel like Inazuma as a whole shows a lot of different ways that people handle grief and loss and I feel like that’s been a major theme in Inazuma particularly. I really can’t wait to see how Scaramouche’s arc plays out and also some more of Kazuha’s story too!
As someone whose favorite characters are Scaramouche and Kazuha seeing their stories becoming more intertwined makes me quite happy
I realized one of Inazuma's themes is people being forced into roles they didn't want or weren't prepared for. Raiden as the Archon, Thoma as an Inazuman, Ayaka as a role model, Ayato as commissioner, Sayu without her master. I haven't looked into the other characters though.
@@finnthefannibal Kazuha as an exile, Tomo as... well. Kokomi as the divine priestess, Gorou becoming a female thrist trap lead in a novel (lol), Itto being an Oni and being cast out by his village. Kujou running the Tenryou commission when she wasn't quite human. Yae Miko wanting to see festivities but being limited in her role as Lady Guuji. Scaramouche probably has something similar for becoming a harbinger/fatui. I have yet to think of one for Yoimiya.
Missed your chance to say "I thought the Irodori Festival was Iradorable" 😁
I actually think that Scaramouche will be the final boss of the Sumeru chapter, since Dottore tampered with him right after he joined the Fatui. Dottore could have implemented some sort of fallback mechanic, where if the worst happens and Scara decides to defect, Dottore can take away all his choice and free will and turn him into a puppet to be controlled at Dottore's whim. If I had to guess, this is how they make Scara redeemable in time for his banner, as we defeat him and help him get out of Dottore's influence, then Scara tries to kill Dottore, and Scara and Traveler start on a tentative road to reconciliation. Thus, you have a somewhat-friendly Scara in time for his banner to be dropped.
i know this is very late, but wouldn't that mean dottore has his own agenda? why would he let scaramouche run off with the gnosis if he had control over him and could get him to come running back? i know there's some holes in this, like if it only works manually or if he has to have scaramouches permission, but it just doesn't make sense to me. unless dottore having his own plans for the gnosis is a whole thing in itself which is VERY confusing.
edit: spelling mistake
@@in_hiding It would probably be manual, Dottore's not psychic or anything, afawk. And actually, you're right on time, 3.1 is about to drop and some last-minute theorizing never hurt anyone
How does it feel to be right?
@@-alovelygaycat- Very, very good
Thanks for the reminder of Childe's complete lack of subtlety, it was very funny
Omg we have the same thoughts about childe ... I thought of him because of 2.2 event plus we already know that scaramouche left inazuma long time ago after he obtain the gnosis thats why its impossible that hes the one who rummaging the warehouse.. and he already know that his fellow harbingers are already on his tail and that he cannot stay any longer on inazuma.
also its funny that i tweeted that scene during this event and have a lots of comment that says im crazy thinking that is actually childe.
It does make more sense for Childe to look for anything related to Scaramouche than for Scaramouche to look for the stuff he lost interest in a hundred years ago.
To me that doesn't add up though. Childe isn't the type to be deceitful first off. Even in Liyue he made a huge scene everywhere he went and never hid himself from anyone really. Moreover, the idea that Childe isn't very smart is weird. He just prefers being upfront and not using deception, that doesn't mean he is dumb.
Remember Childe is the one who literally cracked the code of the Adepti without any help from Signora or ZhongLi. He copied those sigils made from Adepti magic so precisely that it fooled all the Adepti. On top of that, he mass produced them to a degree never seen before. The Adepti said only a few were ever made and that they were extremely powerful. Yet Childe made truckloads of them without assistance and even knew how to use their power to summon Osial. That part of the plan had nothing to do with Signora or Morax. He did that using his own intelligence.
If he can do all that in such a short time, I think he would find a note under a plant. Not to mention he is a hydro user, making this even easier for him.
You know, I’m beginning to be more and more doubtful that Scara and Ei will have a confrontation. I think we’ll just end up in Sumeru and see him there.
If that's true, that would be *such* a missed opportunity. Like, MAN, I've been craving for their interaction ever since 2.1
@@raymorningstar7399 for sure, but Ei definitely doesn't want anything to do with him anymore, knowing that she left him alone on the wild just walking around
All the people around Ei was saying he won't be abandoned by her but he still got abandoned anyway so I guess he won't meet her anytime soon (if he even gonna meet her maybe some time in the future) and I don't think Ei wanna meet him
Yeah I'm convinced we won't get that confrontation either.
@@kuroo_nyanko Mom of the year award for sure. In all seriousness though she tends to run away from her past so I can see her wanting nothing to do with her own creation
This event was wonderful as a fellow Scara enjoyer but all the questions it left us with the Niwa Clan and this mysterious spy is turning my brain into liquid. This was a really interesting video, I have to admit I have mixed feelings about the Fatui spy theory but you definitely have a point about this spy being on the clumsy side compared to Scaramouche. If not Childe, which other Harbinger could be interested in the mission of tracking him down (Edit: On second read, it specifically says "but 'who' would want to hide Kunikuzushi's past," so this wasn't totally right on my part. And it raises another question - if Childe was the Fatui spy, why would HE want to hide Kunikuzushi's past?)? Very interesting stuff to consider. Thanks for another video that challenges the predominant theories about this event story so far, always nice to hear your reflections on the lore!
It seems to me that, given Scaramouche's origin story, he may feel he was denied his birthright. With the Electro Archon Gnosis in his possession, he may be playying to overthrow Ei and take her place. He may have even joined the Fatui knowing that the Tsaritsa is going after the Gnosi(es?) of the archons and wanted to use this to further his goal of obtaining the eletro archon's gnosis. He also understands the power of the Musou Isshin and therefore would need to acquire more information on it in order to either exploit a weakness in it or identify a more powerful weapon to counter it.
another thing to add to the purple and white ropes that itto and scaramouche wear connection is that the artifact set that tells scaramouche’s story is great for itto
Itto also has Kabuki ties, which is probably why he had the ropes... But I really want them to be friends because I think that would be hilarious.
So scaramouche basically is a co op player who appears. Helps a bit while causing a tiny bit of havoc. Then says something like "Oh! I need to go water my lawn before it rains. Gotta go" or "I think my ice cream is almost finished in the oven. Gotta go." Then leaves. Like the randomest thing then leaves. Like "My flight leaves 10 days ago. I need to get my passport from the dentist. Gotta go."
My theory:
Scaramoche wants to remember his original name as fatui experments wiped out his memory. His name was inside the bonsai and kazuha family is hiding his name from him.
... that's a unique idea. I'd buy that.
if it were childe thats kinda funny bc he has a hydro vision and still couldn’t find the letter 😂
yes yes yes! I completely agree, I thought it was just me who questioned the idea of Scara rummaging through Kazuha's stuff cuz like what for? After so many years? Why? To avoid suspicion? Well NO ONE WAS HAVING SUSPICIONS before they've seen that fatui spy lurking around. Bc of being plagued by guilty conscience? ...well when u feel guilty u recognize your mistakes and apologize, u don't just hide your wrongdoings
Absolutely love the theory about Niwa and imo it's either this or something is lost in translation and Katsuragi is indeed Niwa
Bc I mean I wouldn't put it past the Hatlad to have some compassion cuz there are some things that indicate it's in him somewhere
the name niwa appears in the lore for ayato's sword
this theory makes so much sense but also doesnt at the same time. 😭
i just am wondering why a fatui member would go looking in the kaedehara's belongings if NO ONE knew scaramouche had relations to the clan. and the letter wouldnt give information about where scaramouche would be anyway, it's a letter from several years ago... so it leads me thinking as to if the "spy" ayato saw was even a fatui at all? but how would he know to blame it on the fatui if there wasnt any significant signs of them, like a delusion..? im confused as hell
Ayato has a pretty vast intelligence network, so I'm pretty sure he'd know the thief's allegiance. Same goes for the fatui, with their level of intelligence gathering, they could figure out where to get more info on scara, and sent childe to do it since childe is the fatuis errand boy
@@sivvinod3187 Still makes more sense that the one who actually had a reason to do it (Scaramouche), is the one who did it. It's a cool theory, but it's heavily insinuated to be Scaramouche. Just the fact that Ayato asks the traveler about what exactly the perpetrator was trying to hide makes it hard to dispute. He described Scaramouche's intentions pretty accurately.
Moreover, Scaramouche lived in Inazuma for quite awhile and was basically betrayed by the shogun herself for having emotions. They tossed him out against his will and banished him before he had ever committed a single crime. He has good reason to sabotage Inazuma and cover his tracks. He was also in training to become the new shogun, so it makes sense that he could easily enter a government facility.
Idk why but Pierro has quite strong ties with Scara.. He’s highly hinted to be the one who recruited Scara at first, and well the theory surrounding Pierro being a Khaenrian(suggesting he lives longer than Scara to know his secret,and perhaps wants to keep Scara’s secret personal for his schemes?).
So maybe, he ordered his underlings to infiltrate the warehouse? If it’s not his order,then maybe some other Fatui harbinger that we haven’t met yet. Just my wild guess…
Pretty excited for future quests!
He wasn't tossed out he left out of his own free will. They tried to prevent him from leaving.
And I still don't think the motives actually line up with anything that Scaramouche would actually do at least not given his current characterization. I know that opinion is very subjective but I still haven't heard a compelling argument against it.
@@Ashikai He didn't leave the Shogun of his own free will, he left Inazuma. That's not the same thing. The artifact set explaining his lore says that the shogun essentially deemed him unworthy of being archon because he cried in his sleep one time. Then she exiled him from Inazuma city. That's when he started being an Ahole trying to get a rise out of Raiden.
Also, it is a lot like Scaramouche. All these characters are strongly related to their counterparts in the play they're based off of. And that Scaramouche is one who talks a lot of crap, yet he is a major screw up and never succeeds at anything he does. He is a confrontational but bad at actually fighting or following through with anything he does. He also got bullied by Signora and disliked Tartaglia in most scenarios because of his natural talent and versatility.
Lastly, it does say he is the thief if you read the context of what Ayato said. He refers to both the thief and the one who ruined Kazuha's family name as the same person throughout the dialogue.
I have to repeat this, I love your passion for this game and stories!!
I've been waiting for this video!!!!! Since you mentioned it a bit in one of your live stream that you wanted to talk about Kazuha and this whole thing!!I was so excited!! It was my favorite event and seeing your view on this is so wonderful thank you for everything you do!!!
the word niwa in japanese means garden so when you posed the question my brain immediately went there. Not sure if there's anything in that - reference to garden of eden, paradise or something?
Interestingly the other 3 swordsmithing schools are '1000 hands' and '100 eyes' (possibly related to the big statue outside tenshukaku? And the other one (経津 - futsu) relates to a god of swords and lightning who is a general for amaterasu (the sun goddess and who was believed to be the direct ancestor of the emperor of japan) not sure if there's a parallel here between raiden and kunikuzushi?
it's not the kanji for garden, garden is 庭 but niwa as in this surname is 丹羽, 丹 means red or rust coloured and 羽 means feathers
Got it recomended at the top of YT and the title made me go "I'm sorry, *what* ??"
I'll save this for a day in which I'll have a functioning braincell... what are you on, Ashi
I also thought Katsuragi is a surname, but lately I changed my mind. The "Rather Aged Notes" name several people, but it always uses either the first name or the title. It uses "Nagamasa-sama", not "Mikoshi-sama". It would be very odd if "Katsuragi-sama" is a last name because that would be inconsistent writing style by the same person. So with that in mind, Niwa being Katsuragi's last name is the most likely theory IMO.
Oh that's actually a really good observation. That would change a lot about the context!!
23:05 "little murder munchkin" is the best thing I've heard all day
The theory videos you create and the little comments you make in them always make me smile.
Thank you
my guess is : scara will become a weekly boss when kazuha's story quest is released, we'll play kazuha as a trial 5th caracter to beat down scaramouche
but that's just my guess
My guess is during an archon quest or Childe’s next story quest. I would love to see Kazuha and Childe team up international competition style to beat the shit outta him tho
@@jakthesac5175 i doubt kazuha will help childe if he knew about his misdeeds in liyue, but if they knew nothing about it like xinyan in the shiki taishou event then it would be very possible that childe and kazuha will team up against scaramouche.
that sounds even better xD
can't wait to see where the story will lead
@@wajih5068 idk, I could see them getting along if the traveler introduced them. Childe definitely has the advantage over Scaramouche of being annoyingly honest and a terrible liar. I think if Kazuha had to choose between both of them, he’d agree to help Childe
Also Kazuha has his weird smelling wind thing, and I think he’d be curious about Childe and more likely to believe that he means well since he can tell.
Honestly I just really want them to meet and be friends lol
@@jakthesac5175 he's tanjiro huh
@@Insertregret weird that traveler (Aether) is tanjiro
But then again kazuha is Canadian Aether
Came for the theory stayed for the Childe shaming
i always thought it was weird for scaramouche to flee inazuma with the gnosis to only be like "wait, let me go back to rummage through some super old papers!" and why the kaedeharas would suddenly matter to him. i couldn't decide who else would want to sneak into the kaedehara family's stuff (i thought it could be a harbinger we haven't met yet, then realized they would've had no plausible motive), but childe seems like a pretty good bet
hey @ashikai thank you so much for giving time for us to understand better the lores and back stories of these characters. greatly appreciate your videos 👍👍
the way kazuha was drawn in the quest was so adorable
Well he’s definitely the thief that stole a lot of hearts
Always fun thanks for putting these together
I thought that it didn't make much sense for him to be the thief xP ... interested to hear your theory
i really respect lore divers lore is super important and I don't have the time to deep dive, I'm extremely grateful for how much hard work and effort you put in, thank you.
So, you could very well be right and involving Kazuha and Scaramouche could be the end of the Inazuma arc, but, at the same time, we might not get it before Sumeru. What makes me feel this way? One thing in particular. If you remember, around the time of the last Lantern Rite, we got a continuation of the Liyue story with the rebuilding of the Jade Chamber around the time Inazuma was wrapping up the end of the archon quest. If anything, we might get it later in another intermediate chapter, possibly after Sumeru. This is just my theory though. I could very well be wrong, but knowing that about a whole year was waited out before the Jade Chamber was rebuilt, I wouldn't bat an eye if the developers came out and told us that we had to wait until later, after 3.0, to wrap up the whole thing with Scaramouche and the gnosis.
I always thought that the thief isn't Scara and that's why I was so confused when I watched other streamers assumed it was Scaramouche. This video saved my paranoia that it was only me thinking that it wasn't Scaramouche.
Literally me.
As soon as I finished the event, it always struck to me it wasn’t Scara, especially when I reread Scara’s Likeness portrait board. It’s such an anomaly if he’s the thief, and most theorists in reddit and youtube suggest he’s the thief.
it’s fun reading others’ opinions though..
Still, I stand by my own opinion as long as the theory isn’t officially confirmed yet.
Scaramouche resembles a lot more to Raiden Mei in Honkai Impact than Ei/Makoto.
His eyes and eye shadow have a slightly more slanted form, his hair, althought short, has a more simmilar shape and color, specially the color.
Scaramouche is the one that resembles the most to Mei despite Ei/Shogun.
Finally someone said it!
OMG!!! A totally unexpected video! Thank you!!!!! (I was off on twitter these last few days)
I love when you go into weird theories. There is so much excitement in your voice that I picture that conspiracy charlie meme, but fun for everyone.
nice input.. i never connected the 2 incident as much as you did, but i always felt like kazuha needs some form of closure of his story when i do both of his quest since his first release.. your theory makes sense why i felt that way i guess. really nice input.
20:41 While it'd be cool to see Scaramouche doing some cool sword techniques with a dimension splitting sword, he can already split reality with his WIND BLADE (I know this was 8 months ago but yeah)
[OF TOPIC] I love your voice, it's very calm and nice :)
I love watching your videos instead of studying for my exams, i'm living for your crack theories!! I can't deal with scara anymore, he just comes, drops lore bombs, refuses to elaborate and then dissapear for 2 years
I also love the idea of silly childe being the fatui spy, it would indeed make sense! I'm still confused about who niwa is tho
Having someone masquerade as Scaramouche to rummage through things and essentially be put onto a watch list makes sense. The more eyes you have looking out for him the more potential for the Fatui to find where he ran off to.
Way Too Dank, Mind is Blown.
Am I too wrong for taking Ayato's options at the end of the event like "reasons why YOSHINORI hid the truth all his life"? Like, the questions were more about why he never told anyone back in the day rather than why'd Scaramouche care about the letter.
You are actually right
That wouldn't make sense though, as he literally stated it was the thief and asked what his intentions would be for wanting that letter. That's also why we know almost for certain that the theif was Scaramouche and not someone else. Ayato literally asked why the theif would want to steal that and then gave us the option to say that "he" wanted to hide the fact that he spared someone. Like that is as clear cut as Genshin lore gets. It says in that conversation just off context alone that Scaramouche is the one who ruined Kazuha's family and the person who did that is the thief. As they are referenced as the same person over and over.
idk why but Scaramouches constellation makes me sad
I started watching more lore videos lately and he still does this. We're cool with him but he STILL DOES THIS
I got a bit lost at the end. The whole thing is that we don't know why would Scara spare someone from the Niwa family?
Btw, as for Scara not being the thief, it makes a lot of sense. In fact, does he even still have fatui guys under him? He kinda betrayed the tsaritsa after all..
i guess not, knowing what happened in the chasm
We know for a fact that lackeys under a Harbinger can choose to act independently - Signora's henchmen wanted to ruin Inazuma after she was executed. But seeing as how Scaramouche ain't that popular even with his own people, its possible that the fatui spies are acting against him and not under his orders.
The options for why the secret was hidden are the reasons why Yoshinori and the kamisato head kept the encounter a secret, not why Scaramouche wants to erase the evidence.
That was not the impression I got from the dialogue but if you do frame it that way it makes a lot more sense. Although it does make you wonder why they say the reason why they hid the secret for so long is because they feared Scaramouche returning and destroying them.
I actually thought of the same thing, and even made a reddit post with similar details and motives in the video and had a similar conclusion of the culprit being Childe. Thanks goodness I’m not the only one who thought this.
To add, Ayato mentioned that if you wanted to keep something a secret, you wouldn’t let any info of it public. He was talking about letting the warehouse incident go, but he also could’ve been talking about the “fatui spy” themselves. After all, if the thief didn’t try to search for something, the whole Irodori festival would’ve been, well, not about Scaramouche. We know that wording is important because Albedo purposefully pointed it out to us in the quest, and Ayato is a politician (a person who’s vague on stuff).
AKA Ayato is either criticizing Scaramouche (dealing a blow to the egotistical midget), or the “fatui spy” (being a terrible spy)
This just makes me wonder if Thoma was actually searching for Ayato’s wallet at all...
Revisiting this theory in 4.0 because it's still interesting.
Especially after the Sumeru archon quest unfolded the way it did, I STILL believe that it was Dottore in disguise (or that he at least had a hand in it), appearing as Scaramouche because either it would draw less attention or because he wanted to frame him (once again manipulating him). Remember the lengths he tried going through just to get to Haypasia? The best reasoning we got for that was because she saw Scaramouche's life when she connected to Irmunsil and there was SOMETHING among those memories that the Doctor either didn't want getting out or that he, himself, maybe wanted access to. Scaramouche, himself, has also noted Pierro's unusual interest in him, so Dottore and Pierro could have worked together behind the scenes on this endeavor. Ayato came to the conclusion that they never found anything or that they didn't achieve their goal, but even that is just his assumption based on what his eyes told him, plus his assumption on what their mission was and exactly what they were after.
-He still had all of his clones at this point in the story, as well, making it entirely possible for him to be in multiple locations at the same time, working on various plans/schemes and research projects.
*Even if Albedo asked Yae Miko for reference, the scenes we saw in the past still show Scaramouche's figure and it appeared to be from Ayato's perspective. Ayato would not easily misidentify someone so confidently, thus, the person fooling him must be at least equally cunning, if not more so.
*Because Miko knows Scaramouche well, she should know that it's quite unlikely that he's the actual culprit. However, it's well-known that she is not only mischievous, but also that she gets irritated whenever people compare Ayato to a fox, or Ayato to her. Thus, any opportunity to fool him or make him waste his time is one that would probably appeal to her, even if she couldn't publicly make a fool out of him because of the nature of the situation.
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At first I thought that it wasn't Scara boy but then I heard other people were thinking that it was him and got a little confused, at the end I kept thinking that it wasn't him though.
I like how currently in inazuma childe is there because he had some business there.
ooooh Ashikai delving into crack theories now? Very interesting…
Very good theory doe. I like. VERY excited for the quest with Kazuha, Scaramouche & Childe XDD
Thank you very much :)
The one who entered the storage was Ayato/Thoma potting this damn charade
Also you can see his sleeve on the drawing.
The fact that you said so much on this vid but has a lot more to say 😵 information overload 😆
i love how you depicted yourself as yanfei with the papers on the wall in the background XD
What I got from Ayato's questions to the traveller was he asked the reason why Kazuha's and Ayato's family had to keep the incident as a secret, not the reason why it Scaramouche wanted to keep it as a secret. Guess I'll have to rewatch that, but I don't think it was crystal clear he meant Scaramouche.
For example, it was important to keep the secret since the fact that they were spared by the culprint would be really sus and could implicate them more in some kind of betrayal, whatever. That was what I got from Ayato's questions.
It sucks that when we start from different premisses the rest of the video doesn't make sense :/
Besides, Childe supposedly left after the Labirynth event which was a lot before the end of the sakoku decree and Ayato is quite specific about the whole thing happening after it ended.
Yeah it actually was the reason Yoshinori and the Kamisato head hid the truth not why Scaramouche would want to hide it in the present
The more I think about it the more I think that makes even less sense. No one knew that this letter even existed up until a fattui spy went looking for it. And the secret that Ayato mentioned is in this mysterious letter. The only one up until that point who should have known about the contents of the letter was the one who wrote it so theoretically there was no secret being protected by anyone other than Yoshinori, and we've already been told that the reason why he kept things secret was because he didn't want his family to be destroyed.
Any of the options here are valid secrets from the letter but, for those secrets to merit someone wanting to steal them, they must be tied to the thief's motivation. So the thief still wants to prove one or more of those three things which brings me back to the points that I was making in the video. None of these items are anything that Scaramouche would care about so why would he want the letter?
And it's never stated that Childe left Inazuma after the Labyrinth warriors event, at least not that I could find.
I've been watching your videos since a long time and I enjoy them a lot, you always catch a lot of interesting details and your theories are so interesting to hear, and I do agree with a lot of them! But... in this particular one, I think there are some details that are a bit off. I'll try to explain myself. And sorry for the... huge... wall of text.
My first thought at reading the line about the Fatui spy was that it was Scaramouche, because of the context we're given on the event. Then I later thought "hey, what about Childe? He could still be around Inazuma since he was looking for Scara, and it just turns out that Kuronushi's portrait is revealed with water, and who is a Hydro user? It might be some foreshadowing!" but after giving it some more thought, I don't think Childe is the Fatui spy/thief for some reasons. I'll try to be as clear as I can.
Before anything, I'll try to say why I think the thief that was found searching for something in the warehouse wasn't Childe, but with that I'm not automatically implying it was Scaramouche. Although there are very few candidates that fit both working with the Fatui and wanting to protect the Kaedehara clan's secret. Anyway, let's start.
First of all, I agree Childe has a more direct approach at dealing with... things, instead of just spying and scheming like the other Harbingers like to do. But he's neither stupid nor he just uses brute force to deal with problems. In his Character Tale video, when he enters Yanshang Teahouse for debt collection, he does it on a stealthy way (the master doesn't know the Fatui are there at first), so even if he doesn't like to use those methods, he knows how to use them, probably because of Fatui training.
Second, I... don't think the association Scaramouche = Kunikuzushi would be easy for anyone that doesn't know much about the guy. But since he's doing his research, we'll suppose he reached that point. The point he couldn't reach no matter what is Kunikuzushi's involvement with the Kaedehara clan, because that's the very thing Yoshinori was trying to hide from the world. The only ones that could reach that information would only be three people:
- Ayato, being a part of the Kamisato clan, knew his family was weakened by the time the Kaedehara clan fell. Even if he didn't know the truth, he could easily link the dots with the events that happened recently (a thief entering the warehouse with the Kaedehara clan's belongings but taking nothing). In fact, Ayato personally found the paper after investigating all the Kaedehara clan's stuff, and by the way he said it, it looks like the thief didn't even find the paper, he was the first one that thought about putting it in water (which is kind of funny since he's also a Hydro user lol). But to reach it, he had a clue about where to search.
- Kazuha, being a Kaedehara, knows well his family's history, and it's not something he has to research as a stranger, but he had to be guided by Ayato to reach the truth, otherwise he couldn't do it.
- Of course, Kunikuzushi himself.
How would Childe know that he had to search in between the Kaedehara clan's belongings for clues about Scaramouche? How did he made that connection?
You mentioned the rather aged notes found in Tatarasuna, and that Childe would have access to them (which I find it a bit iffy because we know there is almost zero communication between Harbingers), but how can he connect what happened to Katsuragi to Kunikuzushi if the notes only mention "a nameless eccentric"?
And now that Kunikuzushi's past is mentioned, it takes me to the next point:
Why would Childe want to hide Scaramouche's past? His task was just to find him and retrieve the gnosis. I don't think Childe cares much about Scaramouche as an individual, he's just looking for him because that's what his archon ordered him, and weapons obey their masters' orders without hesitation. I'll say more about the weapon thing later.
And the last point it's just a tiny detail, but at the end of the Irodori Festival, Ayato tells us that "the identity of this person (the thief) is not hard to guess", which makes me think a few things:
- The thief has a very distinctive look, easy to recognize. Childe, if you ask me... looks rather normal. Well, yes, he's a ginger, and I don't think there are a lot of gingers on Inazuma, but his appearance is not very striking, the most weird part about his outfit is his mask.
- He is implying it's a rather obvious conclusion to reach, or that it's easy to find.
- And at first I thought that, on the context where he says it, he implied that the Traveler would know the identity of the thief, but after reading it again it can also mean that it isn't hard for HIM to guess his identity, so I'll let that pass by. Ayato would easily know if we're connected to Childe by just putting a Shuumatsuban member to spy on us all the time (which... he has probably done, honestly), but even with it, even if he knew Childe was a Fatui Harbinger, he doesn't imply even once that he could be involved in all of this. If he was, Ayato probably would have said it a bit differently, since Childe's name isn't mentioned once in all the event. I... just find it a bit off.
And... I'm taking this as a more storytelling? point of view: I think everything going on the Irodori Festival event is done to create depth for Scaramouche's character, making him the central point, hinting that we will fight him in the future. Childe's role on the story will be important, I think we all agree on that, but I don't think it'll be directly tied to Scaramouche all the time. It would be weird for a character that was presented to us so early in the story, when he's from the nation of the ""bad guys"" are coming from. That, and the emphasys the Labyrinth Warriors event gave him as "a weapon for the Tsaritsa" makes me think that he won't be just an errand boy searching for other bad guys, but someone that will have his own story, will develop through our journey and thrive on the battlefield, because that's what he loves the most, not playing the detective game. Or at least that's what I want to believe, knowing his character is one of the most complex of all the playable ones so far.
Anyway, SORRY for trapping you into reading this, I know it was WAY too long. Thank you in any case for reading me, and seriously, I hope you keep doing your theory and research videos because they're really well done and as I said, you catch a lot of details and make a lot of connections that aren't so obvious to make, and I enjoy those a lot. I learn so much thanks to your videos, so again, thank you so much, and keep up the good work! ♡
No worries! I actually like reading these kinds of comments lol
You raise some valid points but I can counter a few of them. First I think that Scaramouche's outfit is actually far less conspicuous than Childe while in Inazuma specifically. Scaramouche's outfit, well rather detailed and unique, is based off of completely traditional Inazuman attire. Childe is wearing clothes from a foreign country so I think it's far more likely for him to stand out under those circumstances. What appears normal for us isn't necessarily normal for the people in the game.
You're also right about the harbinger's not really conversing between each other except under very particular circumstances. But here's the thing - the soldiers in the fattui do talk to each other, and collaboration does happen and is possible if they're being asked to collaborate on a task. It's true that there's no reason why Childe would know that the rather aged notes are about Scaramouche, but it's worth noting that there's only a few of the notes left and we don't know how many there were originally. Based on the amount of information that's missing from the notes it might be worthwhile to consider the possibility that there is more detailed information that was written that we don't get to see because it was not plundered during he raid on the fatui. Besides that the husk of opulent dreams does suggest that the person who took Scaramouche in when he tried to leave Inazuma 500 years ago was one of the earlier harbingers and would therefore have known quite a bit more about him at that time and maybe even known what to look for, and very easily could have instructed either signora or arlechhino to investigate for him.
I also think the line, their identity is not hard to guess, doesn't naturally imply Scaramouche as the thief or the spy because we already had a whole event dedicated to Childe. That's not solid evidence by any means but it's enough to make me question.
Now I could be totally off base on every count here but I'm still not sold on Scaramouche having a bizarre change of heart and panic rummaging through someone's stuff only to abandon the idea and immediately leave by boat for some unknown reason. Something feels off so even if he was originally going through stuff I don't think he was the only one. In my opinion it either wasn't him or there were two.
... But we'll probably find out in the next 6 months I think. We can compare notes again then :D
This makes sense! I thought it odd too the idea that Scaramouche was spotted while sneaking in
I think another inspiration for the festival is the Comiket convention in Tokyo, where people cosplay, buy and sell their fan-made literature and merchandise like w/ Klee’s picture book and Sara’s Shogun figurine
Yeah see I agree! It just seems weird for Scara to be the one clumsily knocking about in a warehouse. I'm so glad you put out this video that organizes these ideas in a coherent way.
Scaramouche is technically the tiny Shogun now since he has the gnosis😂
No, I want MOAR CRACKPOT THEORIES!
My ipad broke so i missed it.
Appreciate the recap
I think alice is the one whp sneaked in the warehouse for the gaa event
Finally a theory I can watch and not worry about spoiling me content because it's not a questline my burnout has kept me from experiencing myself first.
I thought the one who broke into the warehouse was Scara since Kurinoshi trying to cover his wrong doings and Scara is today's Kuronoshi
I don't think the guards noticed that someone snuck ib, they only noticed that someone had been going through the stuff and that's when Ayato told the Shumatsuban to keep and eye on the warehouse and that's when they noticed that someone
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We have been si focused on Scara lately that i completely forgot that Childe was also in Inazuma
Also the "someone" being a Fatui might work for Scara ad the fact the he probably betrayed the Tsaritsa and the harbingers isn't public knowledge yet and also this person being a Fatui agents do sent feel right i mean what use could the fatui have for knowing what Scara did to people, not to mention they might already have all this info due to Scara being worked on by Dottore ( like by extracting info from his puppet brain or maybe just asking him about it?)
So i think it is Scaramouche, but he wasn't looking for the letter instead, might be looking for something else entirely or a 3rd party individual who is looking for Scaramouche or is gathering info on him, thus also explaining the fatui appearance (as in where do you go to find a Harbinger with a bad attitude)
Also: why tf would Scaramouche, a known Fatui Harbinger be described as a Fatui spy
when you brougt up kazuha blocking the musoo no hitatachi if I remember right a vision enhacesteh users attributes like stength and etc. Therefore having two would increase your strength further
do you have a patreon or any other ways to support you? your videos are so well put together id just like another way to show my appreciation for all your hard work!
Idk about a patreon but when they stream, you can send them a Super Chat (chat message in a cool color + donation)
I don't cuz I don't have any rewards to give and I feel icky taking money without offering anything.
@@Ashikai nooo u give us lots of great videos! i will be sure to superchat next time you're live then
No wonder kazuha legendary quest is also the last of inazuma, ofc this story between the two is no over but will be the next thing finally after a year
7:15 Your outrage at Kazuha being satisfied 🤣🤣🤣
There's a reason you are one of my two favourite genshin theorists ^^.
My understanding was Nagamasa thought Scara was lost property who should be returned to the Shogun which is why he clashed with Katsuragi, who had taken Scaramouche in as family.
A request for you that has me thinking: The Marvelous Merchandise event is full of lore crumbs about Sumeru and Fontaine that I'd love to hear your take on!! 🥰
It's coming soon!
Great video as always, although I'd argue on one possible scenario in this theory:
Scaramouche might still be the one who did all those things anyway because of the reason that he is unstable with the Gnosis from Ei's point of view (before she ditched him as a viable vessel). therefore, he might have a change of heart - or even an entire personality change when he aquired the Gnosis.
I'm gonna be really sad if that ends up being the case...
Yeah, I kinda agree.
Altough if you think about it, the change of heart could answer the need for Scaramouche's "redemption arc", so he can become a playable character in the future.
If that were the case, then all of the Scaramouche savers will have a heart break knowing their "angry midget" is now "not angry" anymore.
My theory on why it could have been Scaramouche who was going through the warehouse is not because of any of the 3 options, but because of the mention of Niwa. I think that name is what is going to be a crucial clue to uncover Scaramouche's plans. I also don't think it was Childe since I'm pretty sure if he knew the traveler was on the case of finding this paper as well, he would most likely try to weasel his way into the detective party we had going on. Unless he actually found the paper, memorized its contents and put it back into the bonsai pot. But it does feel odd to think Scaramouche would be too dumb to find the paper and leave empty-handed. So, it could just be some unnamed Fatui working under Childe as well.
As for the whole Musou Isshin connection, I think it would make more sense is Yoshinori wasn't adopted by the Kaedehara family. The Kaedehara clan was already known to be practicing the Isshin art. If Scara wanted the Isshin art to continue, he wouldn't have attacked Yoshinori in the first place. His connection to "Niwa" would be irrelevant. He could have attacked them just for the sake of the final message that he wanted to deliver to the Shogun, about him being Kunikuzushi and all. But then, him even asking about "Niwa" was odd.
My crack theory is that Niwa could have been some sort of an inside guy helping Scara on his revenge. But got caught and imprisoned by the Tenryo commission. For the sake of not creating unrest, they covered up the story and let everyone think that he just disappeared. Niwa never revealed who he was helping out and was kept in jail for it. So, in an attempt to free Niwa, Scara devised this plan. He attacked Yoshinori and asked him to deliver that message to clear the name of Niwa. He felt saving him was more important than his revenge quest and revealed himself for the first time ever. But it didn't work. They either never released Niwa or he somehow died in confinement.
It's incredible how you can convince me of anything
I can’t wait to see how it’s gonna go down when ei meets him again
Wow, I didn't even think about Childe being the one who was looking through the warehouse
I felt like he was looking for the sword diagram.
i was quite bother that scaramouche himself going through the warehouse but with the explanation n possibility now it gives more questions than answer 😂😂
that kinikuzuzhi is always causin a "fandango"
It makes a lot of sense that someone else that wasn't scharamouche was looking on his past, since is probably trying to figure out why he hide with the gnosis, to see if he had a bigger plan
About the kaedehara thief in iradori festival that ayato told us.. Yes, I agree with you. I think its not him (scaramouche) along with his sidekick, while since he got the gnosis, he's a fugitive of harbinger and all fatui. Maybe there are other parties who really want to bury the traces of the kaedehara clan and there is a dark history that coincides with the scaramouche's past. That little man.. since he left behind his grudge when Kazuha's great grandfather was saved, he doesn't care about his past anymore. He also doesn't care if he gets caught by the Raiden shogun or not
oo i did end up reading the portrait of scara but never thought to wonder who it was that actually was the theif
For me, i wondered if it had something to do with ei's act II story quest. It's after that when scaramouche suddenly returns to look into kazuha's warehouse. Otherwise him having a sudden interest in this is really odd.
the relation to the schools of the raiden gokaden and the meanings of the names as stated in the video had me thinking about the watatsumi questline for the key of the moon bathed deep. could it be that there is also some sort of key that scaramouche needs as well which is why he kept at least one of the remaining schools alive? just a random thought