The Right Way To Make A Ring Using Wide Section Wire
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- If you are making rings using wide section wire then you should find this film interesting. It will enable you to make the rings faster and a lot more accurate.
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Andrew shows you many hints and tips that he has gained from his experience as a professional goldsmith.
Andrew Berry, a professional jeweller for 30 years, is the training director of www.AtTheBench.com, an award winning on line jewellery training website.
I’m just starting to learn to be a silversmith and I’m following your lead :) as a furniture maker by trade this is the same method we use when doing intricate veneering. I’m sold on this method ! Thanks for the tips and inspiration 🙏🏻
did you ever find out . I have the same question!
People question genius from time to time until genius proves their theory, methods, practices, and principals to be sound and irrefutable. Please keep your theory, methods, practices, and principals coming! You are my new Yoda! :-)
Andrew I was skeptical at first as well, but I have to admit I tried it your way and am a believer! It works and SO much better than ever. Since doing this I have not have any problems getting my rings to fit properly at all. Not once.
Taking a beginning class. Teaching us to make a coil then clip rings with flush cutters, file ends, which means you may have to anneal again depending on how many times you have to to open,then solder, shape and hope for size. I am already set up to saw jump rings, so needless to say, I quickly went to my saw. I so totally agree! I understand I need to know how to file, but the end of wire is not going to help me. Thank you!
I made my first ring after watching your videos on this technique. This approach makes perfect sense, and my first rings came out very well. Thanks for the excellent instruction!
Thank You SO much!!!
Your years of experience, trials and errors, the discovery... everything for us, free to take, to learn from, it is really priceless.
I hope the people around realize how lucky we are.
Thanks again!
Makes perfect sense. Same as the side by side method for narrower widths. Cheers Andrew.
Thank you so much Andrew, so appreciate your efforts you put in to help us. Love all of your videos.
Nice, nice, nice … I was looking to find out how to bend a wide ring shank, what an immaculate answer I found. thanks to your coherent words of wisdom I can now proceed with confidence and understanding. thanks for doing what you do … much respect … Nick.
Happy Thanksgiving from the US! Thank you for sharing your talents and experience to help make me a better technician.
This method was the reason i found you, Andrew. So glad that I did. I am now a member on your 'At the Bench' site. I have absorbed a tremendous amount of info & techniques from your endless amazing videos and I'm just getting started. Thank you!
I am here on youtube watching your videos and learning a great deal. Thank you for sharing the wealth of your experience.
I've been taught the D method but had trouble believing it because a ring has an inside and an outside measurement; visualising a band being cut open and laid out straight, there's no way the ends would be flat. Very relieved to find your method makes much more sense to the deeply buried mathematician in me. Thank you 😊
Ever since I learned this method from Andrew, I’ve always had perfect joins in my rings. I remember the frustration when first learning the ‘usual’ method and trying and failing over and over to get just the one ring to meet at the ends. I thought it was an impossibility. Why would you ever do it the old way?
Shelly Roberts
Jumprings are made round, right? Makes sense.
2degucitas what’s your point?
Shelly Roberts
It makes sense that, seeing how jump rings are rounded then soldered, that larger rings should be done the same way. That's all. No insult intended at all.
great stuff again Andrew thank you, so very very helpful,, used your method a few times now lots of little pieces of silver but as you say it is never wasted, keep up the good advice always listened to always used cheers.
Great method Andrew. Thanks for all the great technical suggestions. Very exacting and helpful! Thanks
after bending up, i like to aneal again, then recheck the join. The reason being that the metal tends to shift when heated.
Love this method. Thanks for all your great videos! -Mary Beth
thanks Andrew, this has made it so much easier. Fantastic video thanks.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge I'll give it a go next time I make a ring of that sort.
Thank you! I became a member #atthebench
Hello Andrew that was a beautiful video showing us how strong your fingers are, and a nice ring also👍
Hi Andrew, great video.. Please can you make a video on how to create a simple trilogy ring using tube. Thank you
Genius! Makes so much sense. Thank you for sharing
but it was so so true!! I like the way you make them. I am glad you are making vlogs on how to properly make rings and the like its going to help me a lot once i git my gear bought and set up!!
This is a much more easier way to make a ring.. Thank you =)
Another great video! I use all my scrap silver for broomcasting so not an issue for me! :)
Thank you so much. I have learned a lot from you.
I don't see the little pieces being wasted since you can melt them to make another strip when you get enough or use the pieces for smaller things like pins or clasps etc...
Makes total sense to me!
love this guy
Thank you so much, I just love your videos - so informative :-)
God bless you
Thank you!
Thank you! When you solder, do you heat on a mesh from below and place the solder inside?
I have just started my silversmithing journey and I am working at home but I am wondering what I can do with some scrap from wire after my rings or bracelets or from silver sheet? I am not sure as I haven't got any special tool for melting, I don't know what I should do with that kind of silver scrap?
How are fine parallel lines made on rings? Thanks!
PERFECTION
Great video. The question I have is, now that your ring is perfectly sized, how do you work harden it? If you start bashing it with a hammer (even a rawhide one), you are going to increase the size, correct?
Hey Andrew how are you doing I love your videos showing how to make gold jewelry and I have a question about making half round rings and I was wondering can the Rolling Mill shape the ring into a half round ring
little pieces are not wasted I never have enough little pieces when I need them and cut them from stock
Would you use this method for making a bangle? @andrewberry
Yes I would 👍🏼
Old carpenter's joke: "I cut it three times and it's STILL too short."
Andrew, do you add extra length for wider bands, eg 10mm wide? Thanks
I understand the concept and it makes total sense but when I try it I'm finding it difficult to keep the two ends of the metal perfectly still while I cut. I'm trying to brace them in several different ways, including the way you did it here, but I think what's happening is I'm not holding them steady enough so that they move a little and the saw blade gets stuck, forcing me to stop and restart a bunch of times throughout the cut. The stopping and starting results in uneven edges on both sides. I get little ridges on the cut faces due to not starting at the exact angle where I left off (which I am forced to do in order to ensure the blade gets un-stuck and doesn't snap). While the overall lines of the cuts are parallel, the little ridges within in cut face makes the edges not line up properly (lots of light comes through), defeating the purpose of doing it this way.
Do you have any advice as to how to brace the two sides so this doesn't happen?
Thank you for the video it was explained perfectly well, it's just executing it that's the problem for me! :)
Hey Andrew great video question what is the size of that piece of half round that you are using for this video
@Khefera, it doesn't really matter; the technique is the same regardless of size.
What kind of saw blades are you using
I always use 3/0 blades. Usually Super Shark
how to i cleaqn up the inside of a sterling silver or gold ring?
Andrew, I'm not quite getting the part at the end where you say that "people will say, but then you have to hammer the ring to work harden it or it'll get squashed"?? Can you clarify that point? Thanks!
You always have to work harden any piece you make or it will be too soft and not hold up when worn - or stuck in a pile somewhere. It will indeed get squashed.
Annealing makes metal dead soft so that it is workable, so it always has to be work hardened once you're finished working with it. Some techniques automatically achieve that (if you're already doing a lot of hammering on the piece), but here, since there is no hammering, it is still close to dead soft once it is soldered.
Just hammer it on a ring mandrel with either a rawhide, plastic, or Delrin hammer, so you don't mar it or move the metal, and that will do the trick, as well as shaping it perfectly. Make sure you turn it around and hammer it from both sides so that it's even, too. If you don't, it will flare at one side.
HTH!
I have been struggling to keep my 12 gauge joints intact when shaping on the mandrel, but don't see this happening on 16 gauge since it stretches easier.. I am hoping the technique you teach to overlap slightly will mean less abuse on mandrel for thicker metal.
Hi,
I was unable to find the chart, you are referring to in this video, on your website. I am blocked from seeing almost all of the posts.
Does one have to become a paid member?
Liza Butcher To access the videos, yes. To view the resources section you will need to become a Freeview member.
It appears that the chart download links aren’t active, how does one access these, please?
I disagree. My experience is making ~6000 rings like this; Cut to final length. Bring together with ring shank bender and use a diamond cut off wheel to square up. Done! No waste. BTW IF you value your hands get a ring shank bender! You'll thank me in 10 years!
Yes I have several shank benders but not everyone is as lucky as you and me, so……
@@Atthebench Of course! It's an expense but I feel should be emphasized! Even with medical advancements hand problems are generally permanent and irreversible. Take care of your hands from the start and you'll be able to follow Mr. Berry for years of enjoyment!🙂