Massive Abandoned Paper Mill - Machines & Equipment Still Inside
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- This gigantic abandoned paper mill closed down in 2006 and is still filled with tons of equipment and machines. We explored inside this facility for 2 days and found some amazing stuff including the massive train tracks that travel through the complex.
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Love it ❤
"On a sad note, this entire facility will likely be demolished ..." Sad note", really?
That clean up should have happened long ago, circa 2007.
I believe that machine with all the rollers is a corrigator machine. It made endless sheets of wide uncut paper rolls. Its a smaller one actually.
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Mobile Instinct , was that the Passaic River nearby ?
I worked in this plant as an electrician for many years til it closed , it was my boiler operator' s license displayed at the 10 minute mark
gary walter wow. thats crazy. what are the odds you would stumble upon this video, let alone that these guys would pick up your license out of the thousands of items.
Gary Walter... Wow! Pretty cool man. My paper mill, once held 4,000 employees and 15 paper machines. We're down to 1 tissue machine and no wood mill or bleach plant anymore, and 280 employees. 80% of my mill looks just like in this video. Very sad and nostalgic.
gary walter real cool Gary. What was the name of the company and mill? I work at Crane Currency in western Massachusetts.
@@Redgonetogray originally called Riegle Paper then James River then several more owners. It shut down last under the owner of FiberMark. My family all worked here as well.
@@s.pursell8901 What caused it to close?
I was a boiler operator in a similar paper mill in Canada that shut down around the same time. 2005-2006 were bad years for the industry as a changing economy was responsible for a lot of paper mills in North America to close. The steam plant was similar to the plant that I ran. I see 2 small packaged boilers and a large upright boiler. (the large furnace). The big boiler likely originally burned coal or wood waste from the mill, but looks like it had a natural gas conversion. This wasn't uncommon as clean air laws got stricter. The packaged boilers likely replaced much older smaller boilers that likely burned coal and or wood waste. The maze in the basement of the steam plant would have likely been where the ash from the boilers was dumped and carted out by hand. But since the plant had a gas conversion, those ash collection pits were converted into usable space. The plant I ran was no different. At 8:33 is a steam turbine generator. The paper machines use steam to dry the paper. The steam plant provides that steam, and some paper mills used some of that steam to make electricity to help offset the energy costs of the mill. Some mills can also separate from the grid and run under their own power if the grid becomes unstable and needs to shed some load. At 9:30 is the wet end of a paper machine. It uses felt presses and a giant vacuum to turn the wet pulp into a continuous sheet that gets fed into the dryer section (steam). 17:45 is a pulper. Normally they have a blade in the middle. It's where the ingredients to make pulp are mixed together like a giant blender.
You know your shit ,sir,👍
@@gergehimon2177 Thanks.
That looks quite small for a wet end of a paper machine. It looks like a twin wire press for groundwood pulp or maybe the saveall for broke pulp. 12:00 is where they get to where the paper machines were. All the equipment for those were pulled out it looks like.
Woodfiber mill, Squamish?
Engineered closures so these places and all records to be destroyed. Served its purpose for the controllers for a long enough time. Not built by us just turned on by colonists after arrival.
glad you guys went down into the basement. so many urban explorers never get into the belly of the beast. guys like me love the mechanics that make the plants work. noticed on one of the blueprints said Beloit Corp. Used to live in Beloit. They made paper making machines. Very cool exploration. Thumbs up!!
Our mill has Beloit in it
2 of 3 our paper machines are Beloit. One was built in 1920. Still running. The other built in early 50’s. Making corrugated medium.
Beloit is stamped on the dryer at our mill
Beloit wi?
Must have done lots of business to require rail cars
Just a helpful hint for videos. I'm an Electrician by trade and I REALLY LOVE when you show up close of ID plates, Name Plates of ANY kind, boxes, panels, wires, switches, gauges, wire ways, troughs, conduit, breakers, lights, ... etc, ad infinitum. ....as a general "historical spelunker" enthusiast I appreciate EVERYTHING that you point your cameras at. I'm sure the pipe fitters, plumbers, fabricators, welders and trades peeps of every and all kinds, would love if you spent a few extra seconds on those things WE do daily. Stay Safe my dudes. Wish I was with you. Oh, the history.
I have worked in paper mills my whole career. I could tell you what all that stuff was if you're curious. Very neat to see one abandoned for so long. Also, you were laughing at the union sticker in the locker room. The union may have been a major contributor to the downfall of this mill. I've seen places shut down before and this is how they do it. They just surprise the crew one day at the end of their shift and say thanks for your service, please have all your belongings out within 30 minutes and then that's it. That's why it looks like people were still working, because they had planned on it, but plans changed. The international trade/finance laws allowed offshoring and that's why America's manufacturing continues to go away. Immigrants aren't taking our jobs. Politicians gave them away by selling us out to line their pockets. It's pretty simple really, but the people at the top aren't going to pull back the curtain for you to see what they're really up to.
Gives you an idea of the "giant sucking sound" Ross Perot warned about in the 90's, or the China trade deals our leaders jumped into for globalization that Trump warns about today. The American worker gets sold out.
@@curtzblues ya unfortunately we have the Democrats to blame for that. Don't know what the notice was back then and I'm baffled how it could have been spun to be good for America. I'm sure it was cheaper goods and increased stock prices for 401k's. Americans are so sorry sighted and incapable of critical thinking. It's so sad. Current administration has put us far behind in green tech that could have generated tons of high paying jobs and helped the environment. Hopefully 2021 will be much better.
Truth 🤦. Curtzblues funny Ross Perot was my first election pick out of high school for prez 😁
Believe it!!!
@@joshrockwellchem Yea, how's that much better in 2021 working for ya? The people that sold America down the river 70s thru the '00s are back in to finish us off and you see it as better, that is what's wrong! They also sold out the US steel industry in the 70s and 80s too dirty for America.
18.00
It is a paper solver ( Pulper) ! I know almost everything about this kind of factories and machines! I have worked at three large paper mills here in Sweden!
Two of them were very old.
This evokes many old memories!
Well filmed thanks for sharing
greetings
12:30, that's where the paper machines with the dryer, press, wire sections, etc. were; and at 16:33, that's the lab where they would take samples to see if the paper met quality specs. I was in paper here in the US for a while too.
I worked in similar paper mills in Canada. This video reminds me of one of them 🙂
Not a papermill machinist but figured that was something to do with pulping trees
I also worked at this plant...you never showed any footage from the finishing department. That's the part with all the a-frame roofs.. The only actual machine that seems to be left there is the Wet-lap. That is where all the pulp that no longer was usable was sent. That then ran back and forth on to pallets and sent to the landfill. I dont know how you got in here and not seen. If you were three months sooner they just knocked a sister pant down three miles down the road. And about 5 miles away demolition has begun on the biggest plant in Milford. These faculties used to be called James River
Or Riegle paper Corp.
Great video! My dad worked here for many years, and it was interesting to see what it looks like now. There are still a lot of men in the area that dedicated their lives to that place. Hopefully, they will find their way to this video!
Do they have an health issues?
That place would make a spectacular post-apocolyptic movie set!
100%
Like RoboCop 2!
The tanks were for the pulp slurry. They used the chlorine to make the paper white. The machine with belts was for pressing the water from the paper being made or for coating the product. The rolls produced would have been huge. There may have been a cutting station to take the primal rolls to a smaller, more easy to manage size. Very cool. Thank you for sharing a part of your day with us!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us:)
I wish there was old abandon places like that anywhere near me. I love urban exploring seeing stuff that stopped in history
Nice video. Glad to see you made it out of N.J. alive and without being taxed for leaving.😁
If your videos have taught us anything it's that nature eventually takes everything back over...
Let me an my crew in there for a few years with cutting torches an equipment then mature nature can have it
Mother nature- damn spell ckeck
What the hell does that mean?
Amen to that
I don't how you do it. Whether it's you going in alone by yourself or even joined by one other person. As much as I'd want to do something like this (exploring long abandoned homes and facilities), I just couldn't do it. There's always that bit of anxiety of who knows who - or what - you might just run right in to. Not only that, but you even manage to muster enough courage to speak out loud on camera documenting the whole thing without fear of being overheard and noticed. All of this take balls, and I totally respect that.
It's abandoned, no one goes there anymore.
No one died there (probably), so you could argue with your brain that there wouldn't be any ghosts around in case you believe it.
@@dusathemaid I work at a large paper mill with over 1000 employees. We have a death dang near every year some years it’s been 10 deaths.
@@Teb.11610 Fuck... How do they die, exactly?
That is so sad. And still, people scream about "useless" safety regulations. Worker protection and safety training should be a priority. People take chances and upper management often push workers to do so.
As a union pipe fitter in northern New Jersey, I worked in some of the oldest factories and powerhouses found in this country. Most times, we found ourselves in the bowels of these manufacturing monsters retrofitting and maintaining them to keep America rolling. Someone had to do it and I was glad to do my job! It was refreshing to get a job on new construction like an airport, hospital wing or office building. Work safely, no matter what you do!
Try being a millwright in these places. We have a few old ones down in the Philly area
@@kenashcom3703 Steamfitter from Ontario, worked on many like this||
You been in the Riegel/Curtis Specialty Papers mill in Milford, N.J?
you breathe enough asbestos to hurt you yet? this guy better be careful poking around these old factories and stuff
@@lindabingham394 Asbestos is only dangerous when in dust form, floating through the air. When it's undisturbed (like inside of a wall, ceiling, etc.), it's completely harmless. Ironically, most "Asbestos abatement" jobs do the the very thing that MAKES it dangerous. They disturb it by tearing it down, which spreads the fibers into the air, so the poor folks working in the building where the abatement is taking place get to breathe those very fibers! If left alone, it is 100% harmless, but someone gets to make money off of removing it. I always thought it was funny how the abatement workers wear masks while working with the now-disturbed asbestos (as they should), but the poor employees who just work in that office, hospital, factory, etc. get no protection during the abatement process.
That note from '82 looks like it was written yesterday it's so clean. Paper is still super white, almost 40 years later.
I work in an old paper mill here in western Massachusetts. I found this very interesting. That large room with the roped off holes in the floor was the machine room. Machine are gone. That big tank you refured to as a carnival ride was a furnish pulper. This big round rotating ball thing is a boiler we still use one exactly like that to cook raw cotton and flax bales. I'd love to know the name of this old company and research it.
I live in Western MA myself, not many paper mills left.
Riegel Paper Company. Fibremark was final operator.
I work in a paper mill right now (Camas, Washington). I recognize almost everything. My mill is older (1886) and bigger.
Mike Carlson Hey i spent 12 years switching all the barges for the peco crane in camas and my dad spent 38 years in the wood mill and on the water down there! It sure is a ghost town now....
@@chainsawmike01 Wow, that's cool. I'm currently winderman on the last machine running (#11 tissue). We're all purchased pulp now so ya, no more woodmill since #20 shut down (my old job)
I bet going from #20 to 11 is like taking a step back in time.... haha
I'd like to see a video of a Mill that's still in operation..
At 9:28 you are looking at a paper machine, - the red material is called papermakers felt... it supports the paper when it is first formed and is laden with too much water to carry it's own weight. there are suction rolls under the felt which pulls the water out of the paper before going into the press sections and dryer cans.
17:00 - Laboratory or pilot research. The oven is for testing - ash etc -
18:00 - the big round thing is a batch digester. Used for small run specialty paper manufacturing.
25:31 is a MICROMETER for checking the caliper (thickness) of paper samples... the anvils on the mic are a specific size for paper.
The place could have been scrapped in the late 2000's - 08-09 when scrap metal was at the peak and made the most one could have made... I scrapped out a papermachine at that time which had some steel rolls which weighed 15,000#
Funny I was thinking the same things as they went through the different levels. Explaining in my mind what everything was used for.
BTW, if you want to see what an old plant that has been kept up to date and profitable, go tour the Anheuser-Bush brewer in St. Louis. This is a completely modern facility but much of the century old architecture has been preserved. And keep in mind that it survived prohibition! Its like a living museum and they happily give tours. Great example of how to do it right.
"It's the wind." Heard in just about every horror movie just before the killing starts.
Maxid1 Hilarious! but actually the place would be perfect for a low budget horror flick. The Mangler from the machine room.
Maxid1 always carry either a gun or a big knife when exploring abandoned buildings, animals, and homeless people can be dangerous
@@saintmichaelsarchangel2644 I prefer a chainsaw and a leather mask.
Maxid1 but leather face’s mask wasn’t made of leather it was just flesh
Maxid1 however point taken
I can see why it took 2 days to go through it, what a huge place ! great video Chris !
Those old mills used asbestos everywhere. One of the reasons some of the old mills shut down was due to the cost of complying with EPA requirements to get rid of asbestos. Asbestos was used as an insulation material in boilers and steam piping, etc. Best to use face mask, breathing device anytime you’re in one of these old mills.
I spent 30 years in this industry so I know what I’m talking about.
L Ledlow, absolutely right. I worked in a Paper Mill until I was furloughed last May, whole mill was shut down. The last place I worked was a warehouse but when I worked in the mill itself there was asbestos everywhere on the walls and also used to cover piping. The warehouse where I last worked had it mostly on the outerwalls.
in that mill the asbestos was removed in 1990
Erie City Iron Works - those were made in my home town. Erie, PA! Love your videos.
Giggitee O'Yeah no longer. So sad.
cbearce1 Pittsburgh has a lot of abandoned Steel Mills and foundry’s on the outskirts of the city limits, kinda creepy to be going along a back road only to pass a condemned Steel foundry yard
Erie, home of Hammermill Paper. I did a ton of work there as a contractor.
Those tracks are part of a delivery spur. They used to connect to a line that was slightly higher up the hill, and ran eastward until it met the main line. The line up there was ripped up, but for some reason those were left there.
A lot of paper plants had train tracks going into them to supply what they needed. They need to be beefed up like that in order to support a train. I worked in IT at a paper plant (Formerly Dexter, first company listed on the NY Stock Exchange) and is still active under different name. Seems like they all look or have very similar setups, from the spiral staircase to the pulping area to maintenance shop etc.
Thanks for the insight. I work at a pulp and paper mill and recognise some machinery, very antiquated, but basic principles still apply. I do have concerns for your safety apart from the obvious structural integrity. Some hazards not so obvious would include residual chemicals, vapours and asbestos. Cheers.
11:00 the neat penmanship is the most interesting part
Damn you could build an entire village out of that place. With a little TLC - Better than living under a bridge.
22:08 Sorry to keep commenting, but these rails had to carry rolls of paper for shipping to printing presses like mine and they weighed anywhere from 2 to 5 tons per roll. We also had train tracks leading into our factory for delivery of rolls of paper. Thank you so much for this video. It helped me understand where all the paper came from!!!
It's Railroad track not train track. And yes the railroad is a primary way to ship paper products as well as raw materials for paper manufacturing. I don't understand what it's so hard for some people to figure this out.
@@railroadmike6843 ??
@@thatgirl3757 yes?
@That Girl...Your comment was appreciated. I was curious why the tracks were there.
@@laurahicks9558 Ty Laura
Thank you for doing your homework and giving us so much information! Very interesting and informative.
Having worked in a paper mill , I think the open space on the highest level around 13mins is where the huge rollers that made the paper were located , I would think they would have been sold on when it shut. Funny enough my mill closed in 2006 as well ! Big tanks would have held pulp.
Would love it if you kept the cam on the stuff they left behind long enough for us to see it too.
16:10 if this is anything like where I worked the toilet is for drug tests(urine), which would explain the closeness of the exam chair to the "stool". I am surprised there isn't a sound booth for hearing test near by as the sound of the machinery running can cause serious hearing damage.
It's not too often a video can move me, but this one did. My father had this account for this paper mill in WG and sold them alot of their electrical motors, generators and the like in the 70's and 80's. It was nice to see the place where I know my father had been at some point in his life.
floppy disc and an OJ reference! lol remember the 90s
With him being so young, wasn't sure if he was joking with the "younger" crowd or he didn't know. LOL
Floppy disk were still used in the 2000's. Desktop computers of that era came equipped with them.
You kids don't know nothing about that five-and-a-quarter.
@@RichardHartness or the 8" singled sided.
Screw the OJ joke because he is a joke, the 1.21 gigahertz Dr. Emmit Brown joke had me Rollin, Back To The Future rules!!
Eerie and very exciting.. All these abandoned places have one thing in common, everything was left behind. Its like everyone just "vanished like a fart in the wind". How strange is that!! Brave soul you are man.
It's Silent Hill in real life. . I'm having nightmares tonight
@@howiegruwitz3173 Dont have nightmare tonight :)
Hey man, you should do a ‘what’s in my bag’ video so we can see what you take on your adventures.
I went into an abandoned sugar refinery in Montreal about 30 years ago. We got to the control room, I flipped all these huge breakers on the electrical panels to 'On' and lo and behold the whole factory lit up and stuff started whirring away...frightened the shit out of us and we took off.
I see where one person commented on coal going to the boilers. This is where someone who worked there at one time could go with you and kind of explain how things ran back in the day. That would be real informative
I believe this was Marcal Paper at one time. I remember driving past this place near the Passaic River. Also, you should be wearing a respirator mask. These old places are loaded with asbestos.
The tracks brought coal for the boilers.
Or recycled paper to the big hopper he called the wheel of death or something.
Actually, the boilers were oil fired; or at least the two burner wands that were shown were for oil. They had a line for the oil plus a line for steam for atomizing the heavy #6 fuel oil so it could burn.
The tracks were to bring in the slave workers in cattle cars every morning
@@Automedon2 Actually not even funny.
@@SeekerGoOn2013 its, its kinda funny
There it sit's. A remnant of industrial America when we made stuff. Very sad.
It is sad this one closed. I feel for the people who had to find new jobs. On a positive note, there have been a few paper mills recently opened in the past 10 years. Jus a few that I know of that is, I’m sure there has been more
Believe it or not but this company was closed during the Obama Administration and this is one of the businesses that China replaced and so many more.
@@nicolemarie2989 Yes, didn't Marcal Paper Company in New Jersey reopen on a limited scale after their massive fire?
I work in the pulp and paper industry here in the US. We still make lots of stuff. Just in newer and modern and more efficient factories. This is a remnant of a terribly managed company that refused to invest a penny in its facility and tried to baling wire and duct tape its way to profit. This companies biggest competitor isn’t China. It’s in North Carolina. Or Georgia or Alabama.
Definitely one of the scariest times but also one of the coolest. Until our next adventure.
Yeah man, a memorable explore for sure.
Your videos are great. Love the calmer nature of them, lot of guys do this and throw crazy imagery, and sensationalize stuff. You ever poke around in maryland? Lots of old hospitals and stuff there.
Thanks for the great vid! Its crazy that a factory of that size would just be left to rot especially since everything was left inside
Cost too much to remove and resell all the parts, tools, equipment, etc. Once you've let everyone go, who is left to clean the place out? The SUITS?
I was in Asbestos removal in the early 90's, and (Sadly) worked on closing 20+ mills in the Pacific Northwest.
We had to stop operations for over a month at a plant in (Everette, Wa?). Seems it was closed as a result of spotted owl habitat destruction... well, the work stoppage, was for a pair of SPOTTED OWLS, that had NESTED in the arsenic laden SMOKE TOWERS.
They can only live in pristine forests.. we were told...
Might be because there are damn few pristine forests left? A few areas in parks, everything else second growth, logged repeatedly in the past.
The excuse to start relocating 3verything to China to fulfill the globalists new world order plans
Save paper wipe your ass with a spotted owl... : o)
Live right up the road from here. Glad you made this video. Always was interested in this building. There was another one left along the Delaware River that was a superfund site. I used to work outside of it on some cellular equipment.
Love this explore. Huge factories are so great. Good find. Thanks for sharing.
I'm a union Electrican and my gosh. We deal with a lot of electrical conduit. The amount of art and thought that goes into those pipe runs. Lost forever. Thats all you have as your signature when you leave. Thanks for the tour!
What beautiful videography of this very interesting place. Looks like it could be titled “Don’t Come In To Work Tomorrow.” As usual, thanks, Chris!
I love to see these places, especially when the videos are presented like this. A casual explore with quiet commentary, no over hype or "ohhh spoopy ghosties!". They also make me sad and a little bit angry, think of the grafting in there, men earning a living making things, feeding their families and now like so much other industry is dead. So dead no-one even demolished the place or redeveloped it, for a new factory making something else.
Very bitter feeling, still thank you for the upload its a great explore.
Scrappers paradise!
Worthless massive junk.
Figure in the cost of asbestos abatement and you might break even.
ahh yes
one hell of a urban exploring video.. excellent camera action.felt as if I was there.. much appreciated for your service of filming .be safe out there
I work at a paper mill in Michigan it is older then that one lol still going. . Cool video i enjoyed it . A lot of waste at a paper mill as you saw .
I've been on a rampage through these videos and I can't be stopped.
Hi, that sounds and looks like a very eerie, scary place to be and that's just during the day, it must be a lot worse at night especially with those loud bangs and other noises, not somewhere I would want to go. A very interesting place though with all of the different machines and dials, a shame you didn't find the train or whatever it was. Thank you for showing us this amazing location. x
Have to leave you a comment! I love this video go back and do more your so lucky to Record this I found it very intriguing . Thanks 👍
Your question: 0:50 and your own answer at 6:58 After the digital era begins the use of floppy disks that were actually converted into our memory sticks or USB drivers, those were the reason because of the paper industry was disrupted. They should have converted that paper mill factory into a USB factory and they could be still alive. Well, bad for them, better for the trees! Nice Video!
Well put!
What a High-Schoolish business model! Most US high-tech manufacturing facilities have moved to China or elsewhere. The paper business is still alive, when one looks at all those glossy commercial brochures, magazines, etc., widely distributed to the public. But the competitive market had seen to it that some paper mills had to close and move to cheaper labor-cost countries. It's all about capitalist economy and globalization.
The paper mill I used to work in after 80 years in operation Just closed down December 31 /2021 . The building is 100 years old . It used to process scrap leather .For what I don't remember from 1921-40 . I worked there for 26 years . The mill is on 85 main Street Spottswood NJ . All of the machines where left behind . The property is on the market . There also is a short drone video on you tube I think it's under spottswood mill .
Awesome, just what I needed! LOL Have been subscribed since the Mt. St. Helens video. Great videos bro.
Thanks Scott!
Hello from Muskegon, MI. I Worked at Sappi/S.D. Warren mill here for 17 years until it closed down in 2009. I am surprised the community in New Jersey lets this old mill stand as is for this long. The paper industry generally pays quite well and are good jobs to have. It is unfortunate they are slowly closing down.
I really liked this episode. Very good narrative and photography, nice job
man I work as a mechanic in a cemetery and that forklift workshop gives me severe work vibes.
Cinematography on point Chris! Another top notch production. Hoping one day to meet you.
Thanks Mark
Your welcome brother!
I began my career at Beloit Corporation - I saw an old BELOIT drawing in one of the shots. Just retired from Valmet. I saw the paper machines were removed. They may have been scrapped or sold - these days it’s a safe bet the machine isn’t around running anymore. Like so many other industries, pulp and paper industry has seen massive changes. New machines are faster, more efficient and more productive - and highly automated.
The jobs went to China. Making paper is an interesting process and might I suggest that instead of wondering around not knowing what anything is that you locate someone who worked there and have them go through this video with you and explain what everything is
I agree.
Walter Johnson these jobs did NOT go to China, they were done away with by the new, tighter government environmental regulations along with the fact that it finally outlived it’s useful life and could no longer be refitted and retrofitted economically to keep producing paper.
It’s much cheaper to build a new mill with all new equipment and technology, that is four times the size of this one, that will produce 10-20 times the paper because of higher efficiency and higher speeds. It’s just gets to the point that it’s not safe anymore to continue putting bandaids on these places to try and keep them running when its just time to shut them down and rebuild elsewhere.
China’s paper SUCKS anyways!! Most companies in the U.S. will not use china paper because it’s so horrendous. Whenever you get a box that has a grayish or yellowish color to it that does not have the normal brown color to it, that is Chinese paper. There is no strength to the paper or the box it’s made from. They do not have good timber over there to make paper from and they add garbage and dead animals and anything else they can throw in the pulper to stretch the paper fiber further and it causes the paper to be crap!
I was a paper maker in a couple of the finest, biggest mills in the U.S. owns by Weyerhaeuser Paper Company at the time and I worked in every job from the Utility job which is a clean up boy and worked my way thru all the “dry end” jobs up thru the coveted “Wet End Operator” or “Machine Tender” position and finally as an assistant team leader.
It was an absolutely rewarding career and very, very interesting!but it’s not an easy job! Long hard hot and cold days. Most days were 12-16 hours and there were times you would work an entire month before getting a day off, but I wouldn’t change it for the world!!
Don Pfeiffer they closed and tore down the paper mill and box plant here. Ed Ball from the DuPont family had built it decades ago. St. Joe paper was a major employer and one of the largest private land owners in Florida. You are right about the quality of paper from China. So many jobs are going overseas that it seems like these would have too. Remember when Walmart boasted they only sold products made in America?
Yea there is a lot of information available about plants like this. It is sad when people go through a place like this and are clueless about it. This entire country was built on facilities like this
You can thank Bill Clinton in 1996 for the move to China. NAFTA and removing all those terr ifs = companies move to China and pay less for labor and ship back to the USA.
Beautiful big, full screen stuff! In your own way, doing your own thing, you've just joined the exquisite club of The Proper People and BWT.
Reminds me so much of the papermill I currently work at. Too funny. Same equipment, same suppliers.
The paper mill you work at is almost as big? How many does it employ?
I am surprised that all of that steel has not been scraped out for recycling!
It's very dangerous business, only safe way is to dynamite the whole plant, then go in with torches, demo saws, and hydraulic shears to cut up all the pipes, tanks, I beams, etc. You'd have to line up a lot of permits, contractors, equipment, etc. Would be extremely lucrative in the END, but the front end costs would be very high.
Berlin, NH used to have International Paper Co., Brown Paper Co., and a few others. Approaching the town, the stench was strong. The residents called it the smell of money. A lot of the town worked in the mills. All closed now, the town went into a financial spiral for decades. The younger generation moved away. Sad. They have been making some strides in recent years to revitalize.
So as a 35 year veteran of the paper industry let me give you some advise to save your life.
You entered multiple areas that probably had oxygen deficient atmosphere. You exposed yourself to asbestos.
You probably ingested a generous amount of sulfur hydroxide gas which is lethal at 10 ppm.
If you future explorations you need an oxygen meter that can detect an oxygen deficient atmosphere, a hydrogen sulfide meter that will ultimately save your life, and a combustibles sniffing tool that will keep you from blowing up; I recommend an Altair 5X; google it. Your desire to explore is only exceeded by your lack of knowledge of what will kill you dead in 1 breath.
yeah and understand why they don't use respirators I have seen some Urban explorers that have the right kind of gear when they do a background of the kind of plant that they're looking at..
he's young but he may really seriously think about getting a respirator especially when you're in an old factory or a plant that was built prior to about 1920.
How crazy is that to leave so much stuff behind. He makes such great videos
Absolutely fascinating! I'm so glad I discovered your channel!
I actually work in a paper mill in North Carolina. It’s so strange to see all this equipment that’s very familiar to me just decaying.
I really hate those people who smash computer monitors...
I totally agree
I can’t stand to see people vandalize stuff when they could leave it all as memories and history
@@StephenBrewer89 When we do New Wave Urbex Smash on old buildings, we often break up computer monitors. It's one of the first and most fun things to bust up. Just get an old block of concrete or other heavy object found on site and heave it through the screen! Or if it doesn't break, drop the monitor down some stairs. That always smashes the whole sucker up.
Everything will need to be smashed when they do the demolition, so we are just helping that process.
@@PreservationEnthusiast
You're clearly an idiot trying to justify idiocy.
@@Ganiscol Have you seen a channel on You Tube called "How ridiculous" They smash things and drop stuff. We are doing the same, but inside abandoned buildings which are going to get demolished. If you haven't shoved a large monitor out of 4th floor window you are missing out.
I just looked this place up. It’s only a 1/2 hour away from where I live. That’s awesome
I was there that day. At 8:24 you can hear me dodging behind that stairway straight ahead of you. (You called it water. Ha.) I'm glad you turned down hallway "4". Things would have ended differently for you and your buddy .............. I saw your drone fly by my window at 24:30. Don't come back!!
You're kidding me, right?
Shut up pussy
Are you the self-appointed guardian of that place?
@@yucannthahvitt251 does your mom know you talk like that on the WiFi she's paying for?
@@Dan_Bender Shut up pussy
I worked for a company based in Dundalk County louth Ireland called S&S.
They made corrugated paper machines. Those rollers look very familiar.
One was fifty feet long and worth 5 million.
When paper mills are up and running they make the entire city smell like sewer.
Depends on the size of the city, Einstein
@@johnchalleen3278 75000. Paper mill's smell horrible.
Not to mention they pollute the river with deadly toxins and the ground with as well. I would HAZARD a guess the plant is full of lead paint, asbestos, deadly working conditions, and from the looks of it - was operated by A**holes!
None of the former Riegel mills in this area processed pulp. It came in from elsewhere in sheets. When these mills first started, they used linen fiber and salt grass to make paper.
Lindsey Allison Westhaven you have no idea what you are talking about. I work in a paper mill and we have very strict guidelines that allow us to operate. Everything that is released into the air or water is treated and measured for emissions. Nothing can get to the ground. These facilities are set up with containment where a spill is possible and all drainage is run to a treatment plant in site.
Good haunting video. Its a small paper mill though. Its eerie for me, as you walked through the plant I could tell you what just about every piece of equipment did in that newsprint paper mill. [former oiler and vibration tech] Except for big ball with the manhole cover open, I have no idea what that is; some kind of mixer I guess. I worked in a paper mill for 18 years and it closed, and now its a big hole in the ground. Our mill closed in 2006 too.
Best video of 2020 so far! Very cool place!
Edit: everything about this place is soo cool, those catacombs look like something straight out of a horror movie!
The thing
My Dad was a shift supervisor in Canadian pulp mills and during school holidays I got work in one of them as a teen. Sooooo fascinating! Thank you for this menory-lane post. (Hey, at 13:38 you say 'roof' like a Canadian, eh?😁)
My dad worked at that mill for 30+ years
Where in nj is this
Marcos Ossandon it’s Warren Glen, about 20 min outside Phillipsburg, just go on 519 from Phillipsburg toward Milford and you’ll pass it
I was going to make a similar comment. Imagine people who worked for decades in a place like this.
So much history in this place!
An amazing explore! So many areas left untouched. The bathroom stall could have been used for routine drug testing ⚕️🩺🥼
My grandfather used to run that place. He actually invented the hydraulic saw using pressurized water to cut through paper pulp because the band Saws used to jam up. Necessity is the mother of invention. Unfortunately he never got credit for it.
The cage of death lol was known as the pulper in the mill when it ran. Beat up old paper
Thanks for sharing. With some creepy music in the background and all the strange noises.... I love it!
they don't put windows in factory's any more. Sometimes it's good to see the sun while you work.
That's exactly why I quit working at International paper. The new generation isn't too fond of working in a depressing environment. Dark and gloomy. Still running amber lights that are dim as shit everywhere u go I stead of white lighting to brighten the place. Shit was like working in hell all day, it's was just dark and hot.
Three stages in paper making - Pulp where the wood is ground up, bleach where it is made white and then the slurry is dried into paper. Those tanks and ovens were for those processes. Cool video, thanks
Big like my friend man this place is big it's cool I would like to check it out 👍👍👍👍
There'a another abandoned paper mill in Lyons Falls, N.Y., that my family sold hardwood pulp to in the 1970's. It was owned by the Georgia Pacific paper company. The mill sits alongside a river, which has a dam which was built right alongside the mill. I recall that the mill was given over almost exclusively to the production of those brown paper towels that you would find in public restrooms, (although I'm not absolutely certain). There was an article in the Georgia Pacific trade paper about how a horrific accident was miraculously avoided, an employee was manning the de- barker, a machine that uses sharp metal blades to remove the bark from logs before they were chipped up to make the paper pulp. The de- barker got jammed, and the employee shut it down, to do an internal inspection. While the employee was inside the de- barker, another employee came by, noticed that the machine had been turned off, and flicked the switch to turn it back on. Luckily, there was another safety interlock switch, that prevented the de- barker from restarting, which would have turned the employee doing the internal inspection to hamburger within seconds. There must be abandoned paper mills dotted all over the north american continent. They are amazing places, and employed tens of thousands.
You can smell a paper mill running 5 miles away or more
There is a large paper mill in Baltimore Ohio and i can smell it sometimes wen i go down state rout 37 to Lancaster ohio from newark ohio
Yep and if a smaller town smelled like sulpher or eggy you know that town was alive !!!!
We're 35 miles from one and if the wind is right we can smell it.
I remember driving with my parents from NJ to FL in the early 80s and one of the states that we passed through stunk so bad (Carolinas I think) and my parents telling me it was a paper mill omg it was so horrible. It smelled just like sewer.
The catwalk bridge was crazy! And probably manufactured on the spot by tool workers who really weren't engineers. Just amazing how people just got thing done in the past that could take an eternity to get done now and at much greater expense.
Though they may have furnaces, at the bottom, for heating water, further up, up top, they make the paper pulp into mulch (wish softened water-- unless that comes later, with bleaching the pulp., for finer papers..)
You make paper by taking wood pulp and adding water and water softeners to it. I think you also heat it. Most of those huge vats are for paper pulp and water, not for burining anything (you cannot burn paper into existence, is what i mean.)
You will probably find some screens, and those are for laying out the pulp, of different grades, for thin and thinner papers and velums. (Most finer paper has wood fibers and cotton in them.)
Very Proper People-like. Very nice…
Great video guys,incredible!
Thanks Kenny
Reminds me of the Ovaltine plant in Villa Park Illinois. Some of the old video showing the property is amazing even though it was filmed on tape. To see what it looked like abandoned to what it looks like now as apartments formerly condos is quite amazing. And , having lived in one of the loft apartments in the factory building it just makes me wonder if this building will become condos or apartments with a concrete floor like i had showing the outline of the machinery that once stood there.