I think MM would still be big, he had the determination and vision, which is really the main thing you need to become successful. But I agree that these two played a huge part in the early look and sound. And that they don't get enough credit. There was some talk of bringing them both back at different points, internally, and I wish that had happened just to see the outcome...
@@thegodbombs I do think that it was a bad move on Manson’s part leaving Brad in the dump which he even mentioned in pretty much every interview. I personally LOVED Brad’s style and bass playing, probably more than Twiggy, but think about how awkward it would have been to bring back Brad because even as a guitar player there would be no place for him. Twiggy started out as a short-term replacement while Brad was in rehab and had no say or knowledge of anything when he first joined and I personally think it would have just been a bad idea for either of them to come back. You do have to move on as painful as it is. Also check out my comment I just posted!
I remember Manson use to scare the sh*t out of me as a kid. My neighbor listened to him and I was a quiet and easily scared of everything kid. And I always saw pictures of him and it creeped me out. but when I turned 13 I listened to this album and I fell in love with this band and Manson. I became a huge fan of horror movies and weird and obscure things and this was right up my alley. What scared me the most as a kid was the first Manson song I ever heard. which was on Halloween. my brother set up a haunted house in our a living room, dining room and hallway. And he played Revelations 9 on repeat over and over. Literally we had a kid in the back behind a decoration next to the boom box playing it. and he had the kid hit replay over and over again. It creeped me TF out but many years later I got to hear the full portrait album and get your Gunn single and became a massive fan.
I was 18. Saw them in Muncie, Indiana on their college tour with NIN in 1994. First time I had even heard of them and the stadium was 1/3 of the way full until Nails was about to come on but I was fucking blown away. Manson's banter with the crowd and his larger than life stage presence made me an instant fan. The next day bought the cd and tried to push it on as many friends as I could, like I discovered something special and felt the need to share it. Great times. Wrapped in Plastic, Dogma, Cyclops, and Get Your Gunn 👍
@@Richieb75 That must of been one to remember. I hope to see NIN again before Trent calls it quits. It's getting close with the bands that have survived the last few decades....lol
@@saintjames7106 It was amazing man. I was so into Nine Inch Nails and they just released Downward Spiral that year. Sadly that was the only time I was able to see NIN but ended up seeing Manson at least another five or six times. Wish I could go back. Me and my buddy met some college chicks at the show it was at Ball State University they snuck us in their girls only dorm and we kept the party going if you know what I mean. Hate to sound like an old fart but this bullshit year of 2020 has really made me appreciate the 90s damn.. the music was awesome and everybody just wanted to have fun
Thanks! Saw MM on the Eat Me Drink Me tour, the Born Villain tour, Pale Emperor, and Heaven Upside Down era. It's been fun every time but can't but feel I missed out on the glory days.
Awesome review. The first album that I heard of Marilyn Manson was Portrait, so if holds a special place in my heart. 1994 was an incredible year for music. In fact 94 through 96 had some of the most intriguing album releases on the 90’s as a whole. I was 13 years old when Portrait came out and I wouldn’t trade their influence on me for the world. They were my introduction to a word outside of the one that I thought I knew. It came out prior to the Magazine covers and internet etc. So you had to really dig for info and album credits. It felt like trying to find a long lost treasure. And the closer you got, the further it went. I think another great ingredient of Portrait was that Manson drew all of the artwork. That fact helped to tie it all together. Without POAAF there would be no Antichrist, Mechanical or Holywood etc. It set the course for their future creative endeavors and undertakings. Great review!!! I’m excited to see your review for each of their albums.
Thank you! Yes Portrait is the beginning. "STOP THE BOAT". A classic, rough around the edges. Created a whole aesthetic and set the stage for the schism between "band" & "solo artist" direction that would emerge later. What is your favorite song on Portrait?
I got mad at first when he said Cyclops was a weak song because I personally feel that even if it isn’t a “strong point” in the album, I feel as though it fits perfectly with this album. Plus, it is one of the only songs with a real Daisy style guitar solo, kinda like lunchbox and wrapped in plastic. Also, Sweet tooth is actually one of my favorite songs and maybe the problem is that it doesn’t suck, but it is in fact overrated. I mean let’s be honest, everything Brad touched or did turned to gold, except drugs. R.I.P. Gidget Gein 😤🙏
Totally agree with you on this 100%. I was like 12 when I started to listening to this album and still do to this day. Most every MM fan I know love this album especially sweet tooth. Between this and Slayer pushed me over the edge.
@@deadlycoversparkermurray5187 yea i can't. These 2 bands played a very huge important role in my life and shaped me into the twisted warped metal head that I am today.
@@SykotikShadow Same here but I’ve only been into metal for about 2 years now and I’ve found that MM is extremely dark and creative and smart and I love that. He himself got me into the more 90’s Tool and AIC sounds that inspire my songwriting.
Great review. Would love to hear more stories shared to you by Daisy. One song I would loved to have heard your opinion of, is the album closer. Misery Machine is damn near the top song on the album for me. It's just so rock'n'roll and in your face and the riffs are amazing
Yep this was the beginning of MM firing ppl afrer they'd recorded an album but before the public got the album. So Gein gets replaced by Twiggy in booklet even though Gein did the bass. This happened again with Zim Zum being listed as "live guitarist of Antichrist Superstar" in the booklet because Daisy was fired after recording that album. Then again with Mechanical Animals, John 5 was listed as "live guitarist of Mechanical Animals" because Zim Zum was fired after recording guitar on that album. This tendency created a lot of confusion over the years as to who did what on what album....
@@thegodbombs Zum says he quit while Manson said he was fired. I think Zim Zum was definitely sick of Mansons shit, and whether he was fired or not, I think ZIm Zum was relieved to be relieved of his duty
It's all documented for ppl to watch that era forever! I think it's time for new artists to carry that torch! I was excited for new mature MM directions but who knows now....what did you think of the last few albums?
To me, musically this album sounds like a mix of janes addiction, alice in chains, soundgarden, rhcp, nirvana, hole, smashing pumpkins, nine inch nails and white zombie.
100% it's definitely its own world/sound. I do think it fits into the "scene" at the time quite well though (like I said in my review). Also nice profile icon, check out our Misfits cover! ruclips.net/video/C766ZALBpqw/видео.html
@@thegodbombs Thanks man. I do admit that I don't know much about the music scene in Florida at that time. I was in middle school when this album came out. I will definitely check out more of your videos. This review was dead on.
@@brpadington Not just in Florida but across the U.S. Alternative Metal/Grunge was king and 'Portrait' definitely fits into that world, with more of a gothic & camp twist. Bands like Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Janes Addiction etc. you can hear how they were kind of coming from that same world.
It’s crazy that both Portrait and The Downward Spiral came out in 1994. They both sound like family. But totally different in production and style. 1994 was a damn good year for music, bands the fans!!!
To me the albums sound nothing alike. Downward Spiral is miles ahead of Portrait for me, but Potrait is a cool recording of a unique band! I prefer the more raw mixes before Trent quantized and did drum programming.
This one is the only album of Manson that I'm not 100% familiar with. I definetely love some songs in it, but others I never really paid attention to. Will definitely give it some more listens. I'm looking forward to this series, I love all his work. Btw I like how you talk about all the songs and their meanings.
Thanks so much! Glad you got something out of this! I am excited to do more as I have the time to do them. IMO like I said in the review the Manson Family Album mixes are the best versions to get the real vibe of what they were going for. You can listen to both versions and decide for yourself...Portrait is important for any fan to be familiar with, but more for the history. I hope you enjoy this weird whacky era as you dive in more! 🍭🖤🎶💚
The first thing I did was compliment your MM tattoo when we met. You told me it was from your favorite record. I told you I was torn between Portrait and Antichrist. We just met, but you looked at me and said “Yeah, I can see that; that makes sense.” And still I hold that in regards as a compliment! Great video, Justin! Incredibly comprehensive. I look forward to the rest of the discog reviews! Miss ya, pal🤘🏻🖤
Thank you! I miss touring and seeing everyone. That story brought me back! Glad you enjoyed. IMO there's a whole generation of MM fans who don't know Portrait so I was hoping to shed some light with this review! Have you heard the Manson Family Album version I linked above?
@@thegodbombs boy, do I miss it too! Just this last 10 months without jamming with other people has been my longest stretch since I was 16! I feel dirty! 😂😭 And yes, TMFA is quintessential to me because I was so into early punk music. It showed me a side of punk rock I didn’t know existed and felt more indoctrinated into by my mother raising me on Alice Cooper. Like you mentioned, I think MM would have remained an underground punk crossover trend setter band if Daisy was closer to the helm and Trent and Manson didn’t give a shit. That truly would have been doing the world a grave disservice. I feel as though the old TMFA/portrait blood runs anew through the tangled veins of THE GOD BOMBS and I love it!
I love this album. I had the cassette in 1996 (I was 13 at the time) listened to this everyday and til this day. Amazing musicians and artists. Loved Daisy's sound. Manson's vocals were great. 100% lyrically and musically this Manson album is #1 to me.
I think this MM album is GREAT! I'll give it 9.5/10! My two favourite songs on Portrait Of An American Family is Cake & Sodomy, and Organ Grinder. I think this album is a great start for MM!
I've always thought of this album as the beginning of the death of the spooky kids but it's definitely still important. Great review! Haha, My Monkey gets on my nerves too😜
Smells Like Children is the real death of Spooky Kids! It's like all those cartoony songs getting twisted into something way more sinister to make way for Antichrist!
Great video man.. really weird I just started listening to this again recently and your video popped up. I loved this album when it came out. I was mad at the world as a teenager and I had never heard anything like it before so it sucked me in, giving me an outlet for my anger and frustrations I felt at the time. Going back to it now though I realize what really made me love it back then was the musicianship of it all. Holy hell the guitars and the groovy hooks it was like crack on a shiny disc. The only thing I could do without is the bizarre sampling and weird childhood pop-horror themes. Guess it was all a huge part of the Spooky Kids rep, but does not hold up to time and was ignored in future albums entirely. Have to love Lunchbox and Get Your Gunn, while Cake and Sodomy fits perfectly as the opener. But for me it's Dogma, Wrapped in Plastic, and I happen to really dig Cyclops. Thanks again for the vid :)
Thank you! I' agree its the musicianship of the band that sells this. And while the movie samples have their charm it does give it dated vibe glad and I'm glad those were mostly ditched on later albums. So glad ppl are enjoying these reviews! Please subscribe! I'll be doing all of the Marilyn Manson albums! ⚡⚡⚡
Hello form Belgrade, Serbia. I was born in 1980. and I'm a MM fan since '96. ACSS was already out and when I heard it I fell in love with that album. I had it on cassette which I worn out how much I listened to it :) Back on topic, my favs out of this albums include Luchbox, Misery Machine , Get Your Gunn and Dogma.
Awesome! Hello from America! Thanks for sharing! What is your favorite album? I forgot to mention "Misery Machine" in my review (but it did play in the background)! I think "Misery Machine" is a highlight as well. Also have you checked out our band, The God Bombs? We have music videos on this channel.
@@thegodbombs Hi, my fav is ACSS for sure. It just stands out from the bunch. As soon as I finished your review I've cheched 5-6 of your videos. I think you are creative and talented and deserve more attention. Keep up the good work and you'll find your way underneath the sun, no doubt. One more thing, if you have time and you're up to it, I would appreciate if you could cover whole MM discography. I think you're pretty much on spot and would love to hear your opinion about other albums as well. Cheers
Good review man and congrats on getting to work with Daisy before his passing that's truly something to be proud of. I have to say in all honesty though that the versions of the songs on this album just sound lifeless to me, the material is good but I've just never liked Trent's sterile production on this album every track on this album sounds much better live imo Trent just couldn't capture that energy in the studio. This album was recorded in the Tate house on Cielo dr in Los Angeles at the same time Trent was recording The Downward Spiral that must've been one intense atmosphere. Sharon Tate's sister actually paid them a visit and asked Trent if he was exploiting her sister's murder, that must've been a sobering conversation. You gave this album a 7 but I'd probably go with a 6 just because of the stiff production, still you gotta start somewhere and Antichrist Superstar was definitely a step forward.
I agree that’s why I said the demo mixes with Sarah Lee Lucas on drums sounded better more organic I linked to them in the description! Thanks for the feedback ⚡️⚡️⚡️ Also check out my Antichrist Superstar review on this channel! And more MM reviews I’m doing Mechanical Animals next 👽
Gidget's influence also spred to ACSS but due to a court order i cannot mention wich ones. all in all he was such an underatted musician and person, such a kind and supportive person I wish more peole got to know him. You were lucky to know Scott.
Oh really? He was getting royalties for ACSS? That would be cool. Yeah I bet some of his riffs him and Daisy wrote made it thete probably "1996" because I know that was an old Spooky Kids riff "She Is Not My Girlfriend" right? and then the title track they probably had that kicking around awhile.
POAAF is pretty good album. At first it was a quiet flop, but that grueling 1994 fall tour with NIN managed to boost Manson's popularity by the end of the year. I remember by early spring of 1995 Portrait was receiving a decent amount of attention and reviews in rock magazines; It probably entered the charts as well.
to me this album touched on the social commentary of the time the Culture war was being waged by the evangelical Right until 2012 id say but these days Manson is still against herd mentality be it on the right or left Hate anthem makes that clear along with red black and blue this album has that psychedelic punk feel to it and alot of movie themes its what i like about this album top tracks 1.dope hat 2. get your gunn 3. dogma 4.my monkey 5 cake & sodomy least favorites pretty much your list after this album manson goes into concept territory which i like oh and your band is pretty dope yall have that dark wave Industrial vibe
Thank you! Had a blast making this and I think it's cool to show newer people the history because so much has changed since those days whether within Manson world or the world at large!
@@thegodbombs indeed they have and your welcome every time any SJW tell's me that you can't have any right leaning views in alternative subcultures be it punk goth metal ect i name bands songs and musicians then say these music subcultures are for the most part Politically Independent
My problem is Antichrist Superstar was my 1st introduction, and I pklace it VERY high on the list, so going over to the Potrait album is just a once or twice kinda thing.
@@thegodbombs I have researches a lot, from 92ish to 97ish ....... He literally seemed like a different person. I see the early video footage & Im like..... the dude is so likeable & cool & laid back & even silly at times. - Its almost like Hollywood took over & created what they wanted with him,kinda.
I am biased because this was my first Manson album, and still my favorite, but did you really just come out right off the bat talking about this album and say Sweet Tooth is a weak song?? Otherwise good and informative review.
Haha it was a joke because I screwed up the take..so I started it that way to make ppl laugh. I have to be somewhat critical in my reviews to try and be objective and more analytical than just "this album is great!" Lol keep in mind a weak song from Manson is still better than 99% of songs from most other artists in my opinion! Glad you enjoyed. Check out my We Are Chaos review as well!
@@thegodbombs I could say theres a few albums worth of weak songs from Manson, but everyone has their own opinion. Theres a few good ones peppered in here and there, but personally I didnt enjoy most the tracks from Holy Wood and onward, The Pale Emperor is the most recent I enjoyed. Ill have to give the new ones a few listens through then ill check back ;-)
“The album was initially produced by Roli Mosimann at Criteria Studios in Miami under the title The Manson Family Album. However, the band was unhappy with his production, and this material was then re-produced and remixed in various Los Angeles recording studios by Manson and Reznor, along with assistant producers Sean Beavan and Alan Moulder. Parts of the album were re-recorded at Reznor's home studio at 10050 Cielo Drive, where members of the Manson Family infamously committed the Tate murders in 1969. The majority of Sara Lee Lucas' live drumming was replaced with electronic drum programming from Nine Inch Nails keyboardist Charlie Clouser.”
@@thegodbombs thank you for letting me know ... love the channel..ive watched Lucas live his drumming is really good and wish he was on Antichrist Superstar album....
the fact that he said this album has weak songs, means he came to Marilyn Manson at a much later age. Also this was not the original line up the band. The original Marilyn Manon aka the REAL one was with Gidget Gein the orginal who gordy white aka Twiggy stole his look and style from. though the fact he worked with Scott and mentioned Brad means he truly knows the REAL Marilyn Manson.
That's a good point. He was still kind of commenting on society rather than existing fully as the Marilyn Manson character. There is something more compelling about him becoming the character though and stepping into that larger than life rock star role. The band just couldn't have gone beyond underground otherwise, I feel.
actually cyclops is probably one of my favorites on this album, along with get your gunn. i agree though, my monkey is an annoying song and the band seemed to keep pushing it all the way up to the antichrist era
Portrait of an American Family is a great album From start to end🤘my personal favourite is Mechanical Animals but i love all his albums except Eat Me Drink Me cause it was EMO and definitely not a Manson album,i am a fan from 1999 till today and i think Eat Me Drink Me is the worst don't get me wrong i like some songs but that's the problem i like some not all of them but ok all artists have the up and down even David Bowie himself with his album Let's Dance.Sooo my rate of this album Portrait of an American Family is 8,5/10🤘🤘🤘🤘
R.i.p Scott and brad. They need more credit than they get. There wouldn't be a manson today, i dont think without them.
I think MM would still be big, he had the determination and vision, which is really the main thing you need to become successful. But I agree that these two played a huge part in the early look and sound. And that they don't get enough credit. There was some talk of bringing them both back at different points, internally, and I wish that had happened just to see the outcome...
@@thegodbombs I do think that it was a bad move on Manson’s part leaving Brad in the dump which he even mentioned in pretty much every interview. I personally LOVED Brad’s style and bass playing, probably more than Twiggy, but think about how awkward it would have been to bring back Brad because even as a guitar player there would be no place for him. Twiggy started out as a short-term replacement while Brad was in rehab and had no say or knowledge of anything when he first joined and I personally think it would have just been a bad idea for either of them to come back. You do have to move on as painful as it is. Also check out my comment I just posted!
@@thegodbombs they were both such kind people espcially Brad. he was so supportive of his fans.
I agree that things went over peoples head. I did a project in school about the lyrics to "wrapped in plastic"
yeah it was too intellectual almost for the mainstream pop consumption he went for after
I remember Manson use to scare the sh*t out of me as a kid. My neighbor listened to him and I was a quiet and easily scared of everything kid. And I always saw pictures of him and it creeped me out. but when I turned 13 I listened to this album and I fell in love with this band and Manson. I became a huge fan of horror movies and weird and obscure things and this was right up my alley. What scared me the most as a kid was the first Manson song I ever heard. which was on Halloween. my brother set up a haunted house in our a living room, dining room and hallway. And he played Revelations 9 on repeat over and over. Literally we had a kid in the back behind a decoration next to the boom box playing it. and he had the kid hit replay over and over again. It creeped me TF out but many years later I got to hear the full portrait album and get your Gunn single and became a massive fan.
I was 24 when this came out. If you haven't experienced seeing him live, you've missed out. Great job on this video.
I think I was 15.
I was 18. Saw them in Muncie, Indiana on their college tour with NIN in 1994. First time I had even heard of them and the stadium was 1/3 of the way full until Nails was about to come on but I was fucking blown away. Manson's banter with the crowd and his larger than life stage presence made me an instant fan. The next day bought the cd and tried to push it on as many friends as I could, like I discovered something special and felt the need to share it. Great times. Wrapped in Plastic, Dogma, Cyclops, and Get Your Gunn 👍
@@Richieb75 That must of been one to remember. I hope to see NIN again before Trent calls it quits. It's getting close with the bands that have survived the last few decades....lol
@@saintjames7106 It was amazing man. I was so into Nine Inch Nails and they just released Downward Spiral that year. Sadly that was the only time I was able to see NIN but ended up seeing Manson at least another five or six times. Wish I could go back. Me and my buddy met some college chicks at the show it was at Ball State University they snuck us in their girls only dorm and we kept the party going if you know what I mean. Hate to sound like an old fart but this bullshit year of 2020 has really made me appreciate the 90s damn.. the music was awesome and everybody just wanted to have fun
Thanks! Saw MM on the Eat Me Drink Me tour, the Born Villain tour, Pale Emperor, and Heaven Upside Down era. It's been fun every time but can't but feel I missed out on the glory days.
I stumbled on this video on a nostalgia trip. I really enjoyed his opinion on this period. Wish it was longer.
Thanks so much! I have a whole playlist of MAnson videos I’ve done
@@thegodbombs watching them now. thanks for making them.
Awesome review. The first album that I heard of Marilyn Manson was Portrait, so if holds a special place in my heart. 1994 was an incredible year for music. In fact 94 through 96 had some of the most intriguing album releases on the 90’s as a whole.
I was 13 years old when Portrait came out and I wouldn’t trade their influence on me for the world. They were my introduction to a word outside of the one that I thought I knew.
It came out prior to the Magazine covers and internet etc. So you had to really dig for info and album credits. It felt like trying to find a long lost treasure. And the closer you got, the further it went.
I think another great ingredient of Portrait was that Manson drew all of the artwork. That fact helped to tie it all together.
Without POAAF there would be no Antichrist, Mechanical or Holywood etc. It set the course for their future creative endeavors and undertakings.
Great review!!! I’m excited to see your review for each of their albums.
Thank you! Yes Portrait is the beginning. "STOP THE BOAT". A classic, rough around the edges. Created a whole aesthetic and set the stage for the schism between "band" & "solo artist" direction that would emerge later. What is your favorite song on Portrait?
I got mad at first when he said Cyclops was a weak song because I personally feel that even if it isn’t a “strong point” in the album, I feel as though it fits perfectly with this album. Plus, it is one of the only songs with a real Daisy style guitar solo, kinda like lunchbox and wrapped in plastic. Also, Sweet tooth is actually one of my favorite songs and maybe the problem is that it doesn’t suck, but it is in fact overrated. I mean let’s be honest, everything Brad touched or did turned to gold, except drugs. R.I.P. Gidget Gein 😤🙏
Totally agree with you on this 100%. I was like 12 when I started to listening to this album and still do to this day. Most every MM fan I know love this album especially sweet tooth. Between this and Slayer pushed me over the edge.
@@SykotikShadow Are you saying that you like slayer or MM more?
@@deadlycoversparkermurray5187 yea i can't. These 2 bands played a very huge important role in my life and shaped me into the twisted warped metal head that I am today.
@@SykotikShadow Same here but I’ve only been into metal for about 2 years now and I’ve found that MM is extremely dark and creative and smart and I love that. He himself got me into the more 90’s Tool and AIC sounds that inspire my songwriting.
Great review. Would love to hear more stories shared to you by Daisy. One song I would loved to have heard your opinion of, is the album closer. Misery Machine is damn near the top song on the album for me. It's just so rock'n'roll and in your face and the riffs are amazing
I do love that song and how it collapses into an epic sample and then back!!
i had no idea twiggy had nothing to do with this album, he's in the pamphlet too
Yep this was the beginning of MM firing ppl afrer they'd recorded an album but before the public got the album. So Gein gets replaced by Twiggy in booklet even though Gein did the bass. This happened again with Zim Zum being listed as "live guitarist of Antichrist Superstar" in the booklet because Daisy was fired after recording that album. Then again with Mechanical Animals, John 5 was listed as "live guitarist of Mechanical Animals" because Zim Zum was fired after recording guitar on that album. This tendency created a lot of confusion over the years as to who did what on what album....
@@thegodbombs I don't think Manson himself fired them. Those decisions are made at the corporate level.
@@lisalegato0109 No he fired them. Straight from their mouths. It's not a company...it's a band, and Manson is the leader.
@@thegodbombs Zum says he quit while Manson said he was fired. I think Zim Zum was definitely sick of Mansons shit, and whether he was fired or not, I think ZIm Zum was relieved to be relieved of his duty
@@1008md ehh he really wasn't a good guitarist anyway to be honest
would love to have the old manson back
It's all documented for ppl to watch that era forever! I think it's time for new artists to carry that torch! I was excited for new mature MM directions but who knows now....what did you think of the last few albums?
@@thegodbombs all shit. portrait was the only good album
To me, musically this album sounds like a mix of janes addiction, alice in chains, soundgarden, rhcp, nirvana, hole, smashing pumpkins, nine inch nails and white zombie.
Definitely a strong Bauhaus influence as well
This is still one of my favorite albums by Manson. I love how unique it is compared to his other albums and other albums of the time.
100% it's definitely its own world/sound. I do think it fits into the "scene" at the time quite well though (like I said in my review). Also nice profile icon, check out our Misfits cover! ruclips.net/video/C766ZALBpqw/видео.html
@@thegodbombs Thanks man. I do admit that I don't know much about the music scene in Florida at that time. I was in middle school when this album came out. I will definitely check out more of your videos. This review was dead on.
@@brpadington Not just in Florida but across the U.S. Alternative Metal/Grunge was king and 'Portrait' definitely fits into that world, with more of a gothic & camp twist. Bands like Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Janes Addiction etc. you can hear how they were kind of coming from that same world.
@@thegodbombs It does share a lot of similar elements to early Tool and the guitars definitely have a post punk/Grunge kind of sound.
It’s crazy that both Portrait and The Downward Spiral came out in 1994. They both sound like family. But totally different in production and style.
1994 was a damn good year for music, bands the fans!!!
To me the albums sound nothing alike. Downward Spiral is miles ahead of Portrait for me, but Potrait is a cool recording of a unique band! I prefer the more raw mixes before Trent quantized and did drum programming.
I think Portrait is more listenable. Spiral is undoubtedly a better record, but Portrait is easier to listen to.
This one is the only album of Manson that I'm not 100% familiar with. I definetely love some songs in it, but others I never really paid attention to. Will definitely give it some more listens.
I'm looking forward to this series, I love all his work.
Btw I like how you talk about all the songs and their meanings.
Thanks so much! Glad you got something out of this! I am excited to do more as I have the time to do them. IMO like I said in the review the Manson Family Album mixes are the best versions to get the real vibe of what they were going for. You can listen to both versions and decide for yourself...Portrait is important for any fan to be familiar with, but more for the history. I hope you enjoy this weird whacky era as you dive in more! 🍭🖤🎶💚
I really enjoyed this review.
Gunn story was new to me.
” Here is my real head!”. Cyclops is funny.
The first thing I did was compliment your MM tattoo when we met. You told me it was from your favorite record. I told you I was torn between Portrait and Antichrist. We just met, but you looked at me and said “Yeah, I can see that; that makes sense.” And still I hold that in regards as a compliment!
Great video, Justin! Incredibly comprehensive. I look forward to the rest of the discog reviews! Miss ya, pal🤘🏻🖤
Thank you! I miss touring and seeing everyone. That story brought me back! Glad you enjoyed. IMO there's a whole generation of MM fans who don't know Portrait so I was hoping to shed some light with this review! Have you heard the Manson Family Album version I linked above?
@@thegodbombs boy, do I miss it too! Just this last 10 months without jamming with other people has been my longest stretch since I was 16! I feel dirty! 😂😭
And yes, TMFA is quintessential to me because I was so into early punk music. It showed me a side of punk rock I didn’t know existed and felt more indoctrinated into by my mother raising me on Alice Cooper. Like you mentioned, I think MM would have remained an underground punk crossover trend setter band if Daisy was closer to the helm and Trent and Manson didn’t give a shit. That truly would have been doing the world a grave disservice.
I feel as though the old TMFA/portrait blood runs anew through the tangled veins of THE GOD BOMBS and I love it!
I love this album. I had the cassette in 1996 (I was 13 at the time) listened to this everyday and til this day. Amazing musicians and artists. Loved Daisy's sound. Manson's vocals were great. 100% lyrically and musically this Manson album is #1 to me.
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Fav song on here?
@@thegodbombs Either Wrapped In Plastic, Misery Machine or Dope Hat for me. Love their albums. Big fan 🖤
Awesome job on this review Justin, I'd forgotten about most of this. They all look so, so young here!
Yes! They were babies! Thank you! Fav song on Portrait??
Definitely Cake and Sodomy
I think this MM album is GREAT! I'll give it 9.5/10! My two favourite songs on Portrait Of An American Family is Cake & Sodomy, and Organ Grinder. I think this album is a great start for MM!
I've always thought of this album as the beginning of the death of the spooky kids but it's definitely still important. Great review! Haha, My Monkey gets on my nerves too😜
Smells Like Children is the real death of Spooky Kids! It's like all those cartoony songs getting twisted into something way more sinister to make way for Antichrist!
@@thegodbombs Totally haha!
Great your channel 🤘🏻
Thank you! 💣💕 fav song on Portrait?
@@thegodbombs dogma★‡
Great video man.. really weird I just started listening to this again recently and your video popped up. I loved this album when it came out. I was mad at the world as a teenager and I had never heard anything like it before so it sucked me in, giving me an outlet for my anger and frustrations I felt at the time. Going back to it now though I realize what really made me love it back then was the musicianship of it all. Holy hell the guitars and the groovy hooks it was like crack on a shiny disc. The only thing I could do without is the bizarre sampling and weird childhood pop-horror themes. Guess it was all a huge part of the Spooky Kids rep, but does not hold up to time and was ignored in future albums entirely. Have to love Lunchbox and Get Your Gunn, while Cake and Sodomy fits perfectly as the opener. But for me it's Dogma, Wrapped in Plastic, and I happen to really dig Cyclops. Thanks again for the vid :)
Thank you! I' agree its the musicianship of the band that sells this. And while the movie samples have their charm it does give it dated vibe glad and I'm glad those were mostly ditched on later albums. So glad ppl are enjoying these reviews! Please subscribe! I'll be doing all of the Marilyn Manson albums! ⚡⚡⚡
Hello form Belgrade, Serbia. I was born in 1980. and I'm a MM fan since '96. ACSS was already out and when I heard it I fell in love with that album. I had it on cassette which I worn out how much I listened to it :) Back on topic, my favs out of this albums include Luchbox, Misery Machine , Get Your Gunn and Dogma.
Awesome! Hello from America! Thanks for sharing! What is your favorite album? I forgot to mention "Misery Machine" in my review (but it did play in the background)! I think "Misery Machine" is a highlight as well. Also have you checked out our band, The God Bombs? We have music videos on this channel.
@@thegodbombs Hi, my fav is ACSS for sure. It just stands out from the bunch. As soon as I finished your review I've cheched 5-6 of your videos. I think you are creative and talented and deserve more attention. Keep up the good work and you'll find your way underneath the sun, no doubt. One more thing, if you have time and you're up to it, I would appreciate if you could cover whole MM discography. I think you're pretty much on spot and would love to hear your opinion about other albums as well. Cheers
Good review man and congrats on getting to work with Daisy before his passing that's truly something to be proud of. I have to say in all honesty though that the versions of the songs on this album just sound lifeless to me, the material is good but I've just never liked Trent's sterile production on this album every track on this album sounds much better live imo Trent just couldn't capture that energy in the studio. This album was recorded in the Tate house on Cielo dr in Los Angeles at the same time Trent was recording The Downward Spiral that must've been one intense atmosphere. Sharon Tate's sister actually paid them a visit and asked Trent if he was exploiting her sister's murder, that must've been a sobering conversation. You gave this album a 7 but I'd probably go with a 6 just because of the stiff production, still you gotta start somewhere and Antichrist Superstar was definitely a step forward.
I agree that’s why I said the demo mixes with Sarah Lee Lucas on drums sounded better more organic I linked to them in the description! Thanks for the feedback ⚡️⚡️⚡️ Also check out my Antichrist Superstar review on this channel! And more MM reviews I’m doing Mechanical Animals next 👽
Gidget's influence also spred to ACSS but due to a court order i cannot mention wich ones. all in all he was such an underatted musician and person, such a kind and supportive person I wish more peole got to know him. You were lucky to know Scott.
Oh really? He was getting royalties for ACSS? That would be cool. Yeah I bet some of his riffs him and Daisy wrote made it thete probably "1996" because I know that was an old Spooky Kids riff "She Is Not My Girlfriend" right? and then the title track they probably had that kicking around awhile.
@@thegodbombs yes to all you said :)
I cudnt agree more with you this album spoke to me n I wanted more of this!
POAAF is pretty good album. At first it was a quiet flop, but that grueling 1994 fall tour with NIN managed to boost Manson's popularity by the end of the year. I remember by early spring of 1995 Portrait was receiving a decent amount of attention and reviews in rock magazines; It probably entered the charts as well.
Think you for the video .😊
You're welcome! Thoughts on Portrait??
@@thegodbombs it a really good album and all of marilyn manson album good😈
to me this album touched on the social commentary of the time the Culture war was being waged by the evangelical Right
until 2012 id say but these days Manson is still against herd mentality be it on the right or left Hate anthem makes that clear along with red black and blue
this album has that psychedelic punk feel to it and alot of movie themes its what i like about this album
top tracks
1.dope hat
2. get your gunn
3. dogma
4.my monkey
5 cake & sodomy
least favorites pretty much your list
after this album manson goes into concept territory which i like
oh and your band is pretty dope yall have that dark wave Industrial vibe
Thank you! Had a blast making this and I think it's cool to show newer people the history because so much has changed since those days whether within Manson world or the world at large!
@@thegodbombs indeed they have and your welcome every time any SJW tell's me that you can't have any right leaning views in alternative subcultures be it punk goth metal ect i name bands songs and musicians then say these music subcultures are for the most part Politically Independent
Love that song
My problem is Antichrist Superstar was my 1st introduction, and I pklace it VERY high on the list, so going over to the Potrait album is just a once or twice kinda thing.
Same even though I knew and worked with Daisy it’s just not the same Marilyn Manson it’s a lot more down to earth
@@thegodbombs I have researches a lot, from 92ish to 97ish ....... He literally seemed like a different person. I see the early video footage & Im like..... the dude is so likeable & cool & laid back & even silly at times. - Its almost like Hollywood took over & created what they wanted with him,kinda.
I am biased because this was my first Manson album, and still my favorite, but did you really just come out right off the bat talking about this album and say Sweet Tooth is a weak song?? Otherwise good and informative review.
Haha it was a joke because I screwed up the take..so I started it that way to make ppl laugh. I have to be somewhat critical in my reviews to try and be objective and more analytical than just "this album is great!" Lol keep in mind a weak song from Manson is still better than 99% of songs from most other artists in my opinion! Glad you enjoyed. Check out my We Are Chaos review as well!
@@thegodbombs I could say theres a few albums worth of weak songs from Manson, but everyone has their own opinion. Theres a few good ones peppered in here and there, but personally I didnt enjoy most the tracks from Holy Wood and onward, The Pale Emperor is the most recent I enjoyed. Ill have to give the new ones a few listens through then ill check back ;-)
@@thegodbombs you got me. 😠😄😁
My favorite Manson album
Great Review!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. What's your favorite MM album??
my personal favorite mm album 🤘🤘
It's a pretty good album. Definitely better than Eat Me Drink Me and The High End of Low.
My favorite song is Dope Hat.
Mine too! And I love the remixes of it on Smells Like Children!
lol i don't even consider those albums to be real manson
This album is my favorite record get your gun was the first song I heard way back 1994... so sara Lee Lucas didn't play drums on the album???
“The album was initially produced by Roli Mosimann at Criteria Studios in Miami under the title The Manson Family Album. However, the band was unhappy with his production, and this material was then re-produced and remixed in various Los Angeles recording studios by Manson and Reznor, along with assistant producers Sean Beavan and Alan Moulder. Parts of the album were re-recorded at Reznor's home studio at 10050 Cielo Drive, where members of the Manson Family infamously committed the Tate murders in 1969. The majority of Sara Lee Lucas' live drumming was replaced with electronic drum programming from Nine Inch Nails keyboardist Charlie Clouser.”
@@thegodbombs thank you for letting me know ... love the channel..ive watched Lucas live his drumming is really good and wish he was on Antichrist Superstar album....
This is my favorite album of all time!
I love this album because it’s unique from the rest and just more fun to me than the rest just my opinion of course hehe
good analysis
the fact that he said this album has weak songs, means he came to Marilyn Manson at a much later age. Also this was not the original line up the band. The original Marilyn Manon aka the REAL one was with Gidget Gein the orginal who gordy white aka Twiggy stole his look and style from.
though the fact he worked with Scott and mentioned Brad means he truly knows the REAL Marilyn Manson.
My fav song on this album is snake eyes and sissies
I hope u will review Mechanical Animals
We just finished Antichrist Superstar! Will upload soon! Editing now! Mechanical Animals is next! Probably my favorite album (spoiler alert! ;p )
This album is good because it was before manson killed Brian Warner. It's super interesting to compare this to any other album because of that reason.
That's a good point. He was still kind of commenting on society rather than existing fully as the Marilyn Manson character. There is something more compelling about him becoming the character though and stepping into that larger than life rock star role. The band just couldn't have gone beyond underground otherwise, I feel.
Best album! Every song is amazing! R.I.P Gidget Gein! and Daisy Berkowitz.
Manson is a embarrassment now!
RIP 🖤 check out my Antichrist Superstar review ⚡️
It's pretty good. I don't love it, but it's solid. 7/10
Cake & Sodomy - 7/10
Lunchbox - 8/10
Organ Grinder - 9/10
Cyclops - 4/10
Dope Hat - 8/10
Get Your Gunn - 9/10
Wrapped In Plastic - 10/10
Dogma - 7/10
Sweet Tooth - 4/10
Snake Eyes & Sissies - 7/10
My Monkey - 5/10
Misery Machine - 10/10
This Cd shaped who I'm today
“I am the face of piss and shit and sugar” 🍬
Good review! Portrait is my second favorite after anti christ. Dogma, lunchbox, and get your gun, are fantastic!
Thank you check out my Antichrist review too! ⚡️ I am doing Mechanical Animals next 👽
actually cyclops is probably one of my favorites on this album, along with get your gunn. i agree though, my monkey is an annoying song and the band seemed to keep pushing it all the way up to the antichrist era
This looks interesting, I need someone who translate this in spanish LOL
My favourite song is Cake and Sodomy
Least favourite My Monkey.🤘M.M🤘
Yeah My Monkey didn’t age so well lol
@@thegodbombs haha no it definitely didn't lol
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Daisy was the best guitarist Manson has ever had, I wonder what the next album would have sounded like with daisy and gein
Portrait of an American Family is a great album From start to end🤘my personal favourite is Mechanical Animals but i love all his albums except Eat Me Drink Me cause it was EMO and definitely not a Manson album,i am a fan from 1999 till today and i think Eat Me Drink Me is the worst don't get me wrong i like some songs but that's the problem i like some not all of them but ok all artists have the up and down even David Bowie himself with his album Let's Dance.Sooo my rate of this album Portrait of an American Family is 8,5/10🤘🤘🤘🤘