I got into MTG around 2002 with onslaught block, I loved the art, the stories. I was always excited to pick up a new fat pack for each set back when they came with novels, reading about the plane, the characters, and to see the story unfold through the cards across multiple sets was so cool. Every set felt like it had something new to explore, both in lore and gameplay. I've had some breaks in-between but I played on and off for 20 years, always collecting even in times where I wasn't a fan of the meta. I'll admit, I've complained about a lot of things in the past, but I feel it was because I cared. If I didn't I would have just moved on. I wasn't trying to be negative for the sake of being angry, I want the game to do well. Every aspect I enjoyed about this game has suffered over the years. Planes don't feel anywhere near as fleshed out, they're more like themed amusement parks where the same cast of planeswalker mascots are paraded around in costumes, taking air away from any new characters or developments. And they're introduced at such a breakneck speed we can't form any meaningful attachment. They're disposable. And they treat the entire game like this, always focused on the next thing and how to bring in more sales. The balance of the game has suffered for it with every power pushed direct to format product. As a collector, the print quality of the cards is abysmal, QC is terrible; text and cost misprints used to be nearly unheard of, we've had them in back to back sets. Anything deemed valuable to a collector is locked behind an additional artificial premium paywall that didn't used to exist. Its hard to care about the art when there are 8 different variations printed every set and a new set every 7 weeks with multiple secret lairs in-between. I despise modern foils because they self-destruct and have terrible contrast while my foils from the late 90s early 00s are still flat as a board and look gorgeous. And if I want to get stuff exclusive to collector products, I'm forced to take in a bunch of foils. We can't even celebrate an anniversary without it being turned into another product opportunity at hyper-inflated prices. ($999 for 4 randomized packs of non-legal cards? I'm not letting that go) The core of the game is rotting from greed and neglect, and rather than doing something to fix it, they're leaning on branded crossover deals to try and bring in new blood as people age out of the game. Magic doesn't know what it is anymore, everything has to have something to appeal to every type of player, and yet we're expected to just ignore some products so we don't burn out? How do you do that when those cards still impact the format you're playing. And that's why I quit buying new product. The only thing they will listen to is numbers. Honestly it's been nice, there are so many high quality card games on the market these days, we're spoiled.
Yeah this I fully agree with. Personally the universe beyond stuff is immaterial to me. I love the game for the game you know. I love mana as a resource and I love the stack the passing of priority and how important sequencing can be, but as far as the mtg lore goes I am not impressed. I love the cards and the art and the interactions but fuck me I'm concerned I'll be left behind and not competitve not because I suck but because I can't afford the new cards.
I feel like "product fatigue" comes from the idea that you're supposed to buy every product. I'm not a fan of cowboys or Lord of the Rings, so I just tune those sets out...
@willjackson5885 I'm like that too but then when those sets print very powerful cards (e.g. One Ring) you're kinda forced to at least stay attentive which is also exhausting
This is very true for me. The last five sets to come out I would think about buying some singles, then by the time I got around to it the next set was about to, or had already come out. It’s exhausting.
While I play the game for the gameplay, I agree with your overall sentiment. I was having this discussion with a friend of mine maybe a week ago about Universes Beyond and then all this happened. The consensus we drew was that WotC’s reaction to the Walking Dead secret lair and then consumers’ reaction to LotR was the epitome of “Monkey’s Paw”. What people forget is that the structure of secret lairs limits the amount of money WotC can get off a consumer, you pay X amount for Y specific cards a single time. What WotC heard when people were rightfully upset about mechanically unique cards in Walking Dead wasn’t “Only use secret lairs as reprints” which I think people would be fine with they heard “people are mad at us for making new cards that you can’t pull in sets, so let’s just make whole sets of secret lairs instead”. Then when people bought tons of LotR to chase after specific, meta warping non-guaranteed cards (The One Ring) WotC saw how much more money they could make from that model. If LotR had flopped there’s a very fair chance that all the other Universe Beyond sets would have been scrapped, but that wasn’t likely going to happen because of all the decisions they made to seemingly make that set the most enticing yet.
I think Fallout is what really pushed WotC to go all in on UB. It's clear they put less effort into it and I think its success surprised them. I suspect they were expecting moderate success and they decided that UB was a money printer after it took off.
Some here are saying that the problem is product fatigue, and yes it would be more palatable if they made fewer products but the issue is that wotc is doing this intentionally and taking advantage of the players treating us like cash cows with zero respect for their own community, wotc may not see it but the mtg is already dead we just haven't met it's replacement.
"Honestly I didn't like this[Walking Dead SL], but I wasn't going to let people know that" And that, sir, is the problem. While others were calling out the BS as it happened others were too scared too. Granted WOTC wasn't likely to listen, but screaming honestly into the void is better than silently accepting something you don't like.
If only. THe reason UB works is because its a short term grab of new people that don't play magic. But here's to hoping Spongebob is a big enough turn off.
Print your cards for free at your local library! Put them in sleeves in front of Pokemon cards!! Or hell resize the images and put them in Yu-Gi-Oh sleeves, I get you'll be able to fit 12 cards per page that way!!!!
TLDR, I agree with you, things are wack. I hear you, brother. I genuinely feel like if WotC would have just given these Sets the Godzilla treatment, then a lot of their shortcomings could have been overlooked. But its irritating to see all these unrelated IPs everywhere. I never minded seeing a Walking Dead or Stranger Things commander deck pop up here or there, cause it didn’t really feel THAT intrusive, there were only like a dozen cards. And LotR can be overlooked because of how similar the worlds are to one another, so I didn’t mind that either. We don’t need an entire set of Spider Man, especially if were already getting the Marvel Secret Layer… why not just put him in there and call it a day… I think the Prof from Toleration Community College is the first person I heard call it “Fortnight the Gathering” and as stupid as it sounds, its also pretty accurate to how things are right now. I’ve lost a lot of my playgroup due to Wizards bad decisions over the last two years, and to be honest, at this rate, I don’t know how much longer I want to keep at it either. Loved the video man, keep up the amazing work!
Meh, immersion doesnt exist in magic so i dont see an issue, how is a guy who can travel in time and space is less immersive in a deck then a deck with a cowboy who summons dinosaurs, a vampire and an eldritch horror all from different planes. Immersion in a deck doesnt exist and to make an argument that it is that that UB is single-handed the reason for that is an uninformed and braindead argument.
These are the Dark Ages of Magic: The Gathering. I totaly agree with you man. I play magic for magic not to see some new 12-14 y/o kid playing a LOTR only deck amd refderincing the damn movies. I play because of the magic lore amd the fact that I am a powerfull being know as Planeswalkers that tracel acrross different planes adding what they see and spells they see into their arsenal. Not to be like... I will play my commander Urza only to be looking at a kid luaghing "I will play my commander Patrick the star" like what the fuck??! You know what it feels like? Like when you play dnd amd one guy plays a meme character or a copycat character fpr example Sonic the hedghog. Its immersion breaking. Thats the same here! I playing a serios game and trying to defeat my oponent not to go all goo ga against fucking spongebob. Imagine if a cry baby played mtg... while playing with universes beyond cards...
@@darnoktv1636 Ironic calling someone a crybaby when you're foaming at the idea of playing against a child that excitingly got into magic because of their favorite characters lol
@@alexmanzanares200It doesn't fit is the issue. It just does not fit. 'Fantasy D&D ish land' is what they should be aiming for. And Spongebob? Isn't that on any level.
When Thunder Junction dropped, people were saying how MtG became cardboard Fortnite. It was a bit of an exaggeration back then but it's a reality now. There is a game called Weiss Schartz and it's called "Anime mashup TCG". I guess that's where MtG is going now "non-anime IP mashup TCG". And it sounds miserable. The lore being its own thing it's what attracted me to the game.No doubt there has been such a smear campaign against Urza, it's the game company disowning it's own lore. The nonstop product releases, the power creep, the constant pushing of the envelope so other IPs start playing more and more of an active role...it has gotten so tiresome. Good thing I didn't buy too much product in the last couiple of years. What do you plan to do from now on regarding the channel? Will you take a rest, try other games, change the main topic?Not going to lie, it feels like MtG is always punishing for caring about it.
I dunno man, as soon as people at my LGS heard that Spongebob was a Universes Beyond, the hype just became real. People were excited to make a goofy deck with Spongebob, Patrick or Mr. Crabs as the Commander. Maybe nobody asked for Spongebob Universe Beyond but it sure sounds fun as fuck to me.
@@g4mmalotus937 I would instantly slam the purchase button if they reskinned Phyrexian Metamorph as Robot Krabs with the flavor text: "REMEMBER. RAVIOLI, RAVIOLI, GIVE ME THE FORMUOLI."
Let's says that Magic keeps going with this direction. Do you plan on quitting the game and make a different channel? I agree with your sentiments, I'm simply curious.
A peak behind the curtain, I have started another channel. i havent uploaded much to it but there was a time around June of this year where i was considering quitting this channel and possibly either moving to that one or following other crewtive efforts in life. Time will tell but Im not going to make myaelf make videos for a game i no longer actually enjoy
You may not have wanted to make a "rage bait" video, but I discovered your channel by searching "What is the MTG Universe Beyond controversy?" (I only pay attention to MTG about half of the year.) So thank you for making this. Great content! Subscribed!
I made a joke about us eventually having SpongeBob cards & when I heard the announcement I thought I was in a bad dream. The game is dead, it's lost its identity
My reaction has been to create a free block of new sets, brainstorm new formats, and then attempt to host free tournaments to support those ideas. In other words, a version of Magic that will persist beyond Hasbro.
I took a break from MTG for 4 years, and I'm still surprised that old timer, The Magic Historian, is still making a lot of negative videos on the card game. Like holy cow.
As soon as walking dead came out I just started proxying everything. I have a 3k collection of commander staples if anyone wants to buy it. I’ll keep playing and building proxy decks. I’ll do prerelease, occasional secret lair for art I like but Idc anymore. Love the gameplay but I’m with you.
Tbh as an advocate for Universes Beyond. I don't mind they are becoming Standard Legal. Outside of maybe, the secondary market will probably be absurd now as an EDH/Commander player only with some Arena Standard play under my belt. I don't mind getting them. But I do think if they are gonna be Standard Legal. They should keep it to one set a year and then a modern set or precons only set towards the holidays. MTG does deserve its own IP to flourish for older fans just as much as they want to bring in the next few generations. Personally, I do wish LOTR was Standard Legal. And I hope we get a return to Middle-Earth based around the 1st and 2nd ages with the war of wrath with Morgoth. It would be awesome. Maybe even The Hobbit. Hell, the original trilogy is still missing characters, events, etc. On cards, and it would be an awesome IP to include new battles on. I'm not saying they are great or bad. But they have a few well-known battles. So I can understand the long-time fans' frustration. I defend that UB are being printed. However, I do think they need to slow their roll.
I jumped to FAB a couple years ago and haven't regretted it. (Mtg for 10yrs) Its not quite the same as MTG, but playing Magic just kinda hurts now. Communities very cool, worth a shot if youre interested.
You seem to be in love with older style Mtg and hate the change. Okay opinion, but you need to attract new players in. Most of the old players from 20 years ago have moved on from the game, so to keep the interest and flow of the business, you need to step out and try to attract other subcultures either it be with games, books, shows references. Adapt or fall behind.
The question I make is if the point is to make these slapadash crossover sets why not just play actual card games designed with those IPs in mind. Final Fantasy has a TCG. I am not a Final Fantasy enjoyer, but I do like Strangers of Paradise and I know there's a Tetsuya Nomura signed card for Jack Garland, so unless MTG gives me that, I don't really get buying MTG art for it. I just don't like crossover in card games in general tbh. The whole thing just feels cheap like a bad MUGEN port.
It must suck to be a MTG collector these days: collecting a bunch of collab set trash that will be few cents in the next few years. Are we expecting a MTG crash?
I've only been playing magic for a little over a year now, but I like universes beyond. I think it's a great way to get new players into MTG and can lead to fun card designs when it comes to creating cards for other IPS. But magic going 50/50 with UB is rediculous. As much as I do enjoy UB there is a magic (pun not intended) about this game's original lore and it's planes that just cannot be replicated with third party IPS. Just an incredibly disappointing turn for WOTC to take
They are dropping waaaayyyyy too many sets one after the other. I dived into the lotr set but I didn’t even get to save up enough for a box before another set was out. They should release something once every 2-3 months. I used to play Yugioh, but things now are so different from when I was a kid. Magic is more like casual Yugioh which I love but I know there are those decks that are overly complicated. As for the SpongeBob cards, it’s only like 4 cards right? It’s not a whole set so I don’t see why ppl are pissed. My little pony did it. I just don’t pay any attention to it because I’m not paying $50 for one card.
No one should feel obligated to buy into new sets every time it released! If you can only handle 3 or 4 sets a year like it's used to be, then only buy into 3-4 sets a year. The fact that WotC is even doing this is because they found that it makes them money. Vote with our wallets.
Crossovers are universally revolting and garbage. Compromising the core identity of something to appeal to people that never liked it in the first place is a mistake. Seeing Gimli and Spongebob on the same table is viscerally disgusting to me, even from just an aesthetic standpoint. These are things that were not made to interact with eachother. It shows a fundamental lack of respect for all of it, and I can't respect a company that doesn't respect its own creation. As much as I like Lord of the Rings, as much as I like Warhammer, and as much as I watched Spongebob as a child, I don't want those three things together. It's like a peanut butter, egg, and kimchi sandwich. I like peanut butter and eggs and kimchi, but slapping them together on a poppyseed bun doesn't make them better, it makes them all worse.
I remember when universes beyond first started and me and friends making jokes about this secret lair like it would never exist now were sobered up and say we were kidding omg why and now lorywn was moved for Spiderman great my friend who was anticipating it has to know it was moved for Spiderman
I originally did not care about the Final Fantasy set until I saw the little reveal trailer and the guy from Square Enix just seemed so happy and genuine that it won me over.
I stopped playing magic after Amonkhet and once return to Dominaria was released I knew the old magic we know and love is gone and just went downhill from there, I hated the new design of the borders and prefer the old one the borderless card reminds me of the proxies people used to make for cards except they are official now 😂
Okay so i just started magic like a month ago, can someone explain this guys perspective? Sometimes i have issues understanding things. I dont see how going from 4 sets a year to 6 sets with crossovers is bad, did i miss a part of the video?
@@BartyMcfarty 1) Standard was about 6 sets to keep up with and boxes were more affordable. Now there will be 19 sets to keep up with with prices higher than ever. There is too much for people who care about competitive play to buy. There isn't enough time for the meta to settle. There will probably be more nasty combos or missed interactions that will be banned. 2) People like mtg to not be distracting and jarring by half the cards being from IP. There is something different about going to a furry plane with mice sword fighters and literally having the rat from Ratatouille. They are both rodents, but one reminds you that this is just a card game made by a corporation and not a magic battlefield. It's hard to explain. It just lacks soul. It lacks the soul that created such a devout following. Some people might say that people who think #2 were delusional and that it was always a soulless thing - always just a card game. I think you just had to be there. There was nothing else like it and it had an aura about it.
To disparage rage baiting youtubers, one of which is magic historian whom is one of my favorite creators, then in the same video desire to go back in time to course-correct magic's future is a little silly. Yeah, there are creators that are capitalizing on hate for wotc and hasbro. But those creators often also make fantastic content for the love of the game. Commander's Quarters is someone I have not traditionally liked because he makes "budget" decks that are only budget because he takes the MP and HP prices of cards. They're also bad decks. But, when I watch his other content, I tend to agree with him and he shares a lot of the sentiments you are presenting in this video. Magic Historian's rants are legendary and I genuinely enjoy when he gets red in the face about magic. But that's because of his knowledge and love of the lore of magic that he becomes so upset. Something close to what you are feeling. No one wants to make rage-bait content about something they love. No one wants to hate magic the gathering. But if we push away the radical opinions of some very pissed off people and run and hide to our comfortable place of ignorance and acceptance--than we have allowed the monster which we fear so much to roam among us unopposed. It is the glad-handing content creators, the sickeningly sweet influencers, the oblivious players with no standards that have slowly tumbled us down to the place we now inhabit today. When you play ball with corporations, you will always lose. So, here we are, cracking packs for Blue Hulk so we can put him in our Captain America deck to tap down and mill opponents out while we seek 3 more torn pieces of the Krabby Patty Secret Formula so our Chum Bucket Legendary Artifact can win us the game on our next upkeep. I think this is all a great lesson that there is indeed room for concern and outrage, when it can be healthily leveraged to achieve change. Magic is dead. Long live Magic.
Except those same creators also promote a community that just aint it. Hell commander quarters is a prime example back when he tried to make a new format with a discord and it immediately got taken over by edgy racists to the point he deleted the original discord and took a far step back. Magic Historian has his own issues especially when it comes to borderline misinformation or falsely spreading doom statements. Such as him proclaiming "Duskmorn" as a massive failure..based on him not liking the set and pushing that as fact to his own audience. Or him early on declaring Outlaws as a massive failure because he talked to a few of his shop owner buddies lol
I bought my first paper cards because of Doctor Who. My interest in commander was sealed with Fallout. I started playing on Arena with Lord of the Rings and Wilds of Eldrain. Perfect cards to introduce me into the game. Bloom Burrow and Duskmourn is so perfect for me. I can't even describe how great my introduction to magic has been.
I'm working on a, lets call it "fan made" game like Magic. It's called "Conjure". It's basically my response after being years of being told "This product isn't for you" of Universe Beyond, 30th Anniversary products, and everything else Wizards has done in the past couple years. I don't have any content on RUclips yet but if it's something that sounds at all interesting to you I have some links on my channel you could check out. Maybe you could help me get a video together for RUclips, I really like how you format things.
I'm actually fine with quitting. Not even angry anymore just kinda acceptance that this is how capitalism works and you have to sell your soul to make money...
I'll start by saying I'm a casual edh player and got back into the game recently after not playing for about 10 years, so maybe I'm missing something, but I'm failing to see the issue with collabs when you're still getting 4 mtg lore specific sets next year. The point is to bring as many people into the game as possible, not cater to a small crowd that hates universes beyond. Idc about most of the collabs that have come out but I have to admit it's cool AS FUCK. I'm hella happy for the people who love mtg and any of the collab sets/cards that have come out.
If the cards are strong enough, competitive enough I would absolutely love to smash a winota or kaalia deck with SpongeBob or pony deck. I’d love every second of it!
While I am sort of worried about Universes Beyond taking over the franchise, I don’t think it will be permanent. At least I don’t see UB being the entirety of standard for very long. Eventually the well of IPs you could realistically make into magic sets will run dry. I too want magic to focus on the magic storyline, but if I’m going to be honest? The storyline is at kind of a low point and we’re jumping around to different theme park planes. The biggest events that happened ended as either mixed bags (war for the spark) or straight up disappointments (march of the machines… Justice for my boy Urabrask 😢) If there’s going to be a certain time where Magic’s story is going to take a back seat, right now makes sense. I don’t think it will be forever and I hope that’s the case.
@@MajuGen I really want you to be wrong! Though I can see it. I'm just wondering what that would even look like without the IP usage overlapping. Can't wait for the Golden Girls set.
TBH all I really care about is getting fun new cards. Whether it's magic universe based, or some random IP, I just want the cards to be fun and look good
I get this, but what this means is you like the game and care nothing for the IP. Which is fair, but there are decades of creating a play experience that many people, like you, have no appreciation for. For you all it’s just a game and not an IP.
The problem is that mtg won't ever dye. It'll linger on, change too much, and become a different game. The next generations; who are overexposed by various better media/ip, won't carry it well. There's already a demonstrable lack of interest by younger people. Imagine sitting in a whacky lopsided game only to feel like you just wasted 2hrs of your life. Mtg has the reputation of being the woke American tcg that's becoming more n more lame. It will never return to its former glory... just existing for aging millennials.
Hey i like UB that's what got me started and i love the lore of magic Ajani for life i respect your opinion and UW is the middle ground i guesa and Ulamog Doodlebops would be funny
I think overall it's a good thing, more people, myself included, are brought closer to the game because some of their favorite characters are involved. They just need to think about the direction of each IP. Don't get it twisted, i will DEFINITELY be making a patrick star deck BUT, i think wotc should choose things are a little bit closer to the look and feel of the mtg universe. Godzilla? Sure monsters make sense. Lord of the Rings? Hell ya elves and dragons and shit. My little pony? Bruh.
I totally agree with you about the Godzilla treatment vs the walking dead disaster BUUUUUT I think that introducing people to magic with non magic content is in itself suicidal and illogical. One of the biggest mistakes WotC ever made. And Bloomburrow is one of the worst set with redwall ripoffs and cheap tribal mechanic. PS: I love OG final fantasy with all my heart... but that Sephiroth mtg poster maybe killed MTG for me... I mean how can people think that all I want is for everything I love to fuse into one gigantic brown ball of shit? But remember this... Phyrexia one in the end... and the great fuse of the multiverses destroyed MTG forever
Nobody likes this move and few are going to leave over it. Wizards will still make their bank, but my faith in wizards keeps going down. I already sold alot of my most expensive cards, one of which was jeweled lotus months before it got banned and i'm wondering if i kinda hunker down with only my cheapo fun cards and wait and see on this game's future.
r/freemagic is right, it is always right, abiut everything in MTG We should all boycott, we should all start playing exclusively fan made formats like premodern and band together. We should all rally behind a reactionary movement against what MTG is now and be relentless, otherwise the Magic we all know will be dead. Hell it's not that I am endorsing the idea of harassing the people behind the game, but every day it looks like a more enticing tactic
If you don't want to play against universes beyond, then just explain that to your buddy before you play. "Hey bro, no SpongeBob this time please." It's that easy.
im hype as hell for final fantasy, to say the best UB is worse than the worst in universe set is crazy, mkm was so ass and its so disengenuous to say otherwise, no shot that some of these sets were better than lotr and i dont even like lotr
Meh. I’ve been waiting 2 years for Final Fantasy since they announced it. I don’t know anyone that cares about the lore except for purists. You’re still getting story sets. While new and old players get unique cards to play. To me MTG is about the gameplay.
The greatest thing is when people realize they don’t have to buy and play with things they don’t like. But once people step back and look they will realize all of these products are bringing new people to the game.
@@riddleTCG yeah except even if I ignore Spiderman my opponent will still be playing them, so I will need to learn the cards in and out regardless in order to compete. Also if the best in slot card comes from one of the UB sets, I need to put my morales aside and buy the card in order to have a strongest deck. This hurts competitive play more than anything. Standard isn't Commander, but Commander has infected all aspects of Magic.
You can’t control what your opponent plays, unless we as a community start refusing to play against anyone who plays this disgraces to cardboard, like we should have back when the Walking Dead was announced.
I feel like they tried to frog-boil us to acclimate us to universes beyond but some executives got impatient
there is an active Final Fantasy TCG ongoing, right now, this is so bizarre
I got into MTG around 2002 with onslaught block, I loved the art, the stories. I was always excited to pick up a new fat pack for each set back when they came with novels, reading about the plane, the characters, and to see the story unfold through the cards across multiple sets was so cool. Every set felt like it had something new to explore, both in lore and gameplay. I've had some breaks in-between but I played on and off for 20 years, always collecting even in times where I wasn't a fan of the meta.
I'll admit, I've complained about a lot of things in the past, but I feel it was because I cared. If I didn't I would have just moved on. I wasn't trying to be negative for the sake of being angry, I want the game to do well. Every aspect I enjoyed about this game has suffered over the years. Planes don't feel anywhere near as fleshed out, they're more like themed amusement parks where the same cast of planeswalker mascots are paraded around in costumes, taking air away from any new characters or developments. And they're introduced at such a breakneck speed we can't form any meaningful attachment. They're disposable. And they treat the entire game like this, always focused on the next thing and how to bring in more sales. The balance of the game has suffered for it with every power pushed direct to format product.
As a collector, the print quality of the cards is abysmal, QC is terrible; text and cost misprints used to be nearly unheard of, we've had them in back to back sets. Anything deemed valuable to a collector is locked behind an additional artificial premium paywall that didn't used to exist. Its hard to care about the art when there are 8 different variations printed every set and a new set every 7 weeks with multiple secret lairs in-between. I despise modern foils because they self-destruct and have terrible contrast while my foils from the late 90s early 00s are still flat as a board and look gorgeous. And if I want to get stuff exclusive to collector products, I'm forced to take in a bunch of foils. We can't even celebrate an anniversary without it being turned into another product opportunity at hyper-inflated prices. ($999 for 4 randomized packs of non-legal cards? I'm not letting that go)
The core of the game is rotting from greed and neglect, and rather than doing something to fix it, they're leaning on branded crossover deals to try and bring in new blood as people age out of the game. Magic doesn't know what it is anymore, everything has to have something to appeal to every type of player, and yet we're expected to just ignore some products so we don't burn out? How do you do that when those cards still impact the format you're playing.
And that's why I quit buying new product. The only thing they will listen to is numbers. Honestly it's been nice, there are so many high quality card games on the market these days, we're spoiled.
Preach. I started at Legions and feel the exact same way
The main problem is product fatigue. They are making too much too fast.
Yeah this I fully agree with. Personally the universe beyond stuff is immaterial to me. I love the game for the game you know. I love mana as a resource and I love the stack the passing of priority and how important sequencing can be, but as far as the mtg lore goes I am not impressed. I love the cards and the art and the interactions but fuck me I'm concerned I'll be left behind and not competitve not because I suck but because I can't afford the new cards.
I feel like "product fatigue" comes from the idea that you're supposed to buy every product. I'm not a fan of cowboys or Lord of the Rings, so I just tune those sets out...
I don’t understand any of that. I just make decks on an app, print them out, and go play Commander at my LGS
@willjackson5885 I'm like that too but then when those sets print very powerful cards (e.g. One Ring) you're kinda forced to at least stay attentive which is also exhausting
This is very true for me. The last five sets to come out I would think about buying some singles, then by the time I got around to it the next set was about to, or had already come out. It’s exhausting.
While I play the game for the gameplay, I agree with your overall sentiment. I was having this discussion with a friend of mine maybe a week ago about Universes Beyond and then all this happened. The consensus we drew was that WotC’s reaction to the Walking Dead secret lair and then consumers’ reaction to LotR was the epitome of “Monkey’s Paw”. What people forget is that the structure of secret lairs limits the amount of money WotC can get off a consumer, you pay X amount for Y specific cards a single time. What WotC heard when people were rightfully upset about mechanically unique cards in Walking Dead wasn’t “Only use secret lairs as reprints” which I think people would be fine with they heard “people are mad at us for making new cards that you can’t pull in sets, so let’s just make whole sets of secret lairs instead”. Then when people bought tons of LotR to chase after specific, meta warping non-guaranteed cards (The One Ring) WotC saw how much more money they could make from that model. If LotR had flopped there’s a very fair chance that all the other Universe Beyond sets would have been scrapped, but that wasn’t likely going to happen because of all the decisions they made to seemingly make that set the most enticing yet.
I was having trouble understanding the but this comment helped abit, thanks
I think Fallout is what really pushed WotC to go all in on UB. It's clear they put less effort into it and I think its success surprised them. I suspect they were expecting moderate success and they decided that UB was a money printer after it took off.
Some here are saying that the problem is product fatigue, and yes it would be more palatable if they made fewer products but the issue is that wotc is doing this intentionally and taking advantage of the players treating us like cash cows with zero respect for their own community, wotc may not see it but the mtg is already dead we just haven't met it's replacement.
"Honestly I didn't like this[Walking Dead SL], but I wasn't going to let people know that"
And that, sir, is the problem. While others were calling out the BS as it happened others were too scared too. Granted WOTC wasn't likely to listen, but screaming honestly into the void is better than silently accepting something you don't like.
Yeah I stopped playing Magic a while back when fortnite and my little pony became a thing. Just lost all respect. Burning my collection in a dumpster.
@@jameseddleman6944 wait I’ll take it!
Anyone reading this who really cares about MTG, the only thing these compant will listen to is money, boycott MTG in 2025.
@@pike1294 I’m so here for it!
Hell no
I really care about mtg. You're brain dead an need ti accept the fact that Magic is at PLATEFORM NOW NOT A GAME.
If only. THe reason UB works is because its a short term grab of new people that don't play magic. But here's to hoping Spongebob is a big enough turn off.
Print your cards for free at your local library! Put them in sleeves in front of Pokemon cards!! Or hell resize the images and put them in Yu-Gi-Oh sleeves, I get you'll be able to fit 12 cards per page that way!!!!
Thanks for opening with us and being honest about why we should believe you, and talking about this issue.
Can't wait to attack Papa smurf with my Biker Mice from Mars gang.
TLDR, I agree with you, things are wack.
I hear you, brother. I genuinely feel like if WotC would have just given these Sets the Godzilla treatment, then a lot of their shortcomings could have been overlooked. But its irritating to see all these unrelated IPs everywhere. I never minded seeing a Walking Dead or Stranger Things commander deck pop up here or there, cause it didn’t really feel THAT intrusive, there were only like a dozen cards. And LotR can be overlooked because of how similar the worlds are to one another, so I didn’t mind that either. We don’t need an entire set of Spider Man, especially if were already getting the Marvel Secret Layer… why not just put him in there and call it a day…
I think the Prof from Toleration Community College is the first person I heard call it “Fortnight the Gathering” and as stupid as it sounds, its also pretty accurate to how things are right now.
I’ve lost a lot of my playgroup due to Wizards bad decisions over the last two years, and to be honest, at this rate, I don’t know how much longer I want to keep at it either.
Loved the video man, keep up the amazing work!
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Meh, immersion doesnt exist in magic so i dont see an issue, how is a guy who can travel in time and space is less immersive in a deck then a deck with a cowboy who summons dinosaurs, a vampire and an eldritch horror all from different planes. Immersion in a deck doesnt exist and to make an argument that it is that that UB is single-handed the reason for that is an uninformed and braindead argument.
These are the Dark Ages of Magic: The Gathering.
I totaly agree with you man. I play magic for magic not to see some new 12-14 y/o kid playing a LOTR only deck amd refderincing the damn movies.
I play because of the magic lore amd the fact that I am a powerfull being know as Planeswalkers that tracel acrross different planes adding what they see and spells they see into their arsenal.
Not to be like... I will play my commander Urza only to be looking at a kid luaghing "I will play my commander Patrick the star" like what the fuck??!
You know what it feels like? Like when you play dnd amd one guy plays a meme character or a copycat character fpr example Sonic the hedghog.
Its immersion breaking. Thats the same here! I playing a serios game and trying to defeat my oponent not to go all goo ga against fucking spongebob.
Imagine if a cry baby played mtg... while playing with universes beyond cards...
@@darnoktv1636 Ironic calling someone a crybaby when you're foaming at the idea of playing against a child that excitingly got into magic because of their favorite characters lol
@@alexmanzanares200It doesn't fit is the issue. It just does not fit. 'Fantasy D&D ish land' is what they should be aiming for. And Spongebob? Isn't that on any level.
When Thunder Junction dropped, people were saying how MtG became cardboard Fortnite. It was a bit of an exaggeration back then but it's a reality now.
There is a game called Weiss Schartz and it's called "Anime mashup TCG". I guess that's where MtG is going now "non-anime IP mashup TCG". And it sounds miserable.
The lore being its own thing it's what attracted me to the game.No doubt there has been such a smear campaign against Urza, it's the game company disowning it's own lore.
The nonstop product releases, the power creep, the constant pushing of the envelope so other IPs start playing more and more of an active role...it has gotten so tiresome. Good thing I didn't buy too much product in the last couiple of years.
What do you plan to do from now on regarding the channel? Will you take a rest, try other games, change the main topic?Not going to lie, it feels like MtG is always punishing for caring about it.
I dunno man, as soon as people at my LGS heard that Spongebob was a Universes Beyond, the hype just became real. People were excited to make a goofy deck with Spongebob, Patrick or Mr. Crabs as the Commander. Maybe nobody asked for Spongebob Universe Beyond but it sure sounds fun as fuck to me.
Someone on Reddit made the joke of "No! This is Patrick!" being a white removal spell that gives the player a 2/2 Starfish.
@@g4mmalotus937
I would instantly slam the purchase button if they reskinned Phyrexian Metamorph as Robot Krabs with the flavor text: "REMEMBER. RAVIOLI, RAVIOLI, GIVE ME THE FORMUOLI."
Find better people to play Magic with.
It's so bad that I'm willing to build a deck just because it's funny to me 😂
@@Inspectornills I think that is exactly why wizards is doing it and of course I am sure it will sell quite well.
Let's says that Magic keeps going with this direction. Do you plan on quitting the game and make a different channel? I agree with your sentiments, I'm simply curious.
A peak behind the curtain, I have started another channel. i havent uploaded much to it but there was a time around June of this year where i was considering quitting this channel and possibly either moving to that one or following other crewtive efforts in life. Time will tell but Im not going to make myaelf make videos for a game i no longer actually enjoy
You may not have wanted to make a "rage bait" video, but I discovered your channel by searching "What is the MTG Universe Beyond controversy?" (I only pay attention to MTG about half of the year.) So thank you for making this. Great content! Subscribed!
I made a joke about us eventually having SpongeBob cards & when I heard the announcement I thought I was in a bad dream. The game is dead, it's lost its identity
My reaction has been to create a free block of new sets, brainstorm new formats, and then attempt to host free tournaments to support those ideas. In other words, a version of Magic that will persist beyond Hasbro.
I took a break from MTG for 4 years, and I'm still surprised that old timer, The Magic Historian, is still making a lot of negative videos on the card game. Like holy cow.
As soon as walking dead came out I just started proxying everything. I have a 3k collection of commander staples if anyone wants to buy it. I’ll keep playing and building proxy decks. I’ll do prerelease, occasional secret lair for art I like but Idc anymore. Love the gameplay but I’m with you.
Tbh as an advocate for Universes Beyond. I don't mind they are becoming Standard Legal. Outside of maybe, the secondary market will probably be absurd now as an EDH/Commander player only with some Arena Standard play under my belt. I don't mind getting them. But I do think if they are gonna be Standard Legal. They should keep it to one set a year and then a modern set or precons only set towards the holidays. MTG does deserve its own IP to flourish for older fans just as much as they want to bring in the next few generations. Personally, I do wish LOTR was Standard Legal. And I hope we get a return to Middle-Earth based around the 1st and 2nd ages with the war of wrath with Morgoth. It would be awesome. Maybe even The Hobbit. Hell, the original trilogy is still missing characters, events, etc. On cards, and it would be an awesome IP to include new battles on. I'm not saying they are great or bad. But they have a few well-known battles. So I can understand the long-time fans' frustration. I defend that UB are being printed. However, I do think they need to slow their roll.
It's very possible that sponge bob will be a mechanically unique card.
It’s not far enough tbh. There better better be an instant called “my leg!” That gives a non-flying creature-2/-2
I jumped to FAB a couple years ago and haven't regretted it. (Mtg for 10yrs)
Its not quite the same as MTG, but playing Magic just kinda hurts now.
Communities very cool, worth a shot if youre interested.
I laughed out loud at the "Innistrad Double Feature Red Flag" slide 😂 I do not understand why that product exists...
There is a comic that came out two years ago that had someone attacking with spongebob.
So if I'm understanding we are mad that they went from 4 to 5 and now back to 4 again?
Releases? There are 6 major releases next year.
@lordrumfishsmagicarena271 Sorry, I specifically meant for the non universe beyond sets. I commenting about a part of the video when he said that.
You seem to be in love with older style Mtg and hate the change. Okay opinion, but you need to attract new players in. Most of the old players from 20 years ago have moved on from the game, so to keep the interest and flow of the business, you need to step out and try to attract other subcultures either it be with games, books, shows references.
Adapt or fall behind.
The question I make is if the point is to make these slapadash crossover sets why not just play actual card games designed with those IPs in mind.
Final Fantasy has a TCG. I am not a Final Fantasy enjoyer, but I do like Strangers of Paradise and I know there's a Tetsuya Nomura signed card for Jack Garland, so unless MTG gives me that, I don't really get buying MTG art for it.
I just don't like crossover in card games in general tbh. The whole thing just feels cheap like a bad MUGEN port.
It must suck to be a MTG collector these days: collecting a bunch of collab set trash that will be few cents in the next few years. Are we expecting a MTG crash?
MPC fill can get you any card for 25 cents . Looks real, different card back 😊
I've only been playing magic for a little over a year now, but I like universes beyond. I think it's a great way to get new players into MTG and can lead to fun card designs when it comes to creating cards for other IPS. But magic going 50/50 with UB is rediculous. As much as I do enjoy UB there is a magic (pun not intended) about this game's original lore and it's planes that just cannot be replicated with third party IPS. Just an incredibly disappointing turn for WOTC to take
Great vid. Idk who you are, but I can’t say it better myself. I’ll definitely be checking out your channel
You killed me with, “I probably butchered that’s woman’s name.” Subbed. Ty for the well thought out response!!😊
They are dropping waaaayyyyy too many sets one after the other. I dived into the lotr set but I didn’t even get to save up enough for a box before another set was out. They should release something once every 2-3 months. I used to play Yugioh, but things now are so different from when I was a kid. Magic is more like casual Yugioh which I love but I know there are those decks that are overly complicated.
As for the SpongeBob cards, it’s only like 4 cards right? It’s not a whole set so I don’t see why ppl are pissed. My little pony did it. I just don’t pay any attention to it because I’m not paying $50 for one card.
No one should feel obligated to buy into new sets every time it released! If you can only handle 3 or 4 sets a year like it's used to be, then only buy into 3-4 sets a year. The fact that WotC is even doing this is because they found that it makes them money.
Vote with our wallets.
Crossovers are universally revolting and garbage. Compromising the core identity of something to appeal to people that never liked it in the first place is a mistake. Seeing Gimli and Spongebob on the same table is viscerally disgusting to me, even from just an aesthetic standpoint. These are things that were not made to interact with eachother. It shows a fundamental lack of respect for all of it, and I can't respect a company that doesn't respect its own creation.
As much as I like Lord of the Rings, as much as I like Warhammer, and as much as I watched Spongebob as a child, I don't want those three things together. It's like a peanut butter, egg, and kimchi sandwich. I like peanut butter and eggs and kimchi, but slapping them together on a poppyseed bun doesn't make them better, it makes them all worse.
Didn't keep the gate hard enough. The world of magic means nothing.
I remember when universes beyond first started and me and friends making jokes about this secret lair like it would never exist now were sobered up and say we were kidding omg why and now lorywn was moved for Spiderman great my friend who was anticipating it has to know it was moved for Spiderman
I’m excited for final fantasy it definitely makes more sense than assassins creed
I originally did not care about the Final Fantasy set until I saw the little reveal trailer and the guy from Square Enix just seemed so happy and genuine that it won me over.
This expansion's probably gonna be primarily Blue
mtg is turning into fortnite
Cmon man im literally being asked by my brother to play final fantasy 7 and you literally showed a huge spoiler like cmon
@@matiesponja it's a 20 year old game, dude. Stop crying.
I stopped playing magic after Amonkhet and once return to Dominaria was released I knew the old magic we know and love is gone and just went downhill from there, I hated the new design of the borders and prefer the old one the borderless card reminds me of the proxies people used to make for cards except they are official now 😂
And this AIN't THE END of these... Sessame Street and Beavis and Butthead SL's are afoot. 🤘🦁🤘
Feel the same ... 😔
Okay so i just started magic like a month ago, can someone explain this guys perspective? Sometimes i have issues understanding things. I dont see how going from 4 sets a year to 6 sets with crossovers is bad, did i miss a part of the video?
@@BartyMcfarty 1) Standard was about 6 sets to keep up with and boxes were more affordable. Now there will be 19 sets to keep up with with prices higher than ever. There is too much for people who care about competitive play to buy. There isn't enough time for the meta to settle. There will probably be more nasty combos or missed interactions that will be banned.
2) People like mtg to not be distracting and jarring by half the cards being from IP. There is something different about going to a furry plane with mice sword fighters and literally having the rat from Ratatouille. They are both rodents, but one reminds you that this is just a card game made by a corporation and not a magic battlefield. It's hard to explain. It just lacks soul. It lacks the soul that created such a devout following.
Some people might say that people who think #2 were delusional and that it was always a soulless thing - always just a card game. I think you just had to be there. There was nothing else like it and it had an aura about it.
@@BasedVidya yeah this helps a lot, thanks mate
is your IQ negative?
I think it won’t be a legitimate set. Probably something along the line of the my little pony secret lair.
To disparage rage baiting youtubers, one of which is magic historian whom is one of my favorite creators, then in the same video desire to go back in time to course-correct magic's future is a little silly. Yeah, there are creators that are capitalizing on hate for wotc and hasbro. But those creators often also make fantastic content for the love of the game. Commander's Quarters is someone I have not traditionally liked because he makes "budget" decks that are only budget because he takes the MP and HP prices of cards. They're also bad decks. But, when I watch his other content, I tend to agree with him and he shares a lot of the sentiments you are presenting in this video. Magic Historian's rants are legendary and I genuinely enjoy when he gets red in the face about magic. But that's because of his knowledge and love of the lore of magic that he becomes so upset. Something close to what you are feeling. No one wants to make rage-bait content about something they love. No one wants to hate magic the gathering. But if we push away the radical opinions of some very pissed off people and run and hide to our comfortable place of ignorance and acceptance--than we have allowed the monster which we fear so much to roam among us unopposed. It is the glad-handing content creators, the sickeningly sweet influencers, the oblivious players with no standards that have slowly tumbled us down to the place we now inhabit today. When you play ball with corporations, you will always lose. So, here we are, cracking packs for Blue Hulk so we can put him in our Captain America deck to tap down and mill opponents out while we seek 3 more torn pieces of the Krabby Patty Secret Formula so our Chum Bucket Legendary Artifact can win us the game on our next upkeep. I think this is all a great lesson that there is indeed room for concern and outrage, when it can be healthily leveraged to achieve change. Magic is dead. Long live Magic.
Except those same creators also promote a community that just aint it. Hell commander quarters is a prime example back when he tried to make a new format with a discord and it immediately got taken over by edgy racists to the point he deleted the original discord and took a far step back.
Magic Historian has his own issues especially when it comes to borderline misinformation or falsely spreading doom statements. Such as him proclaiming "Duskmorn" as a massive failure..based on him not liking the set and pushing that as fact to his own audience. Or him early on declaring Outlaws as a massive failure because he talked to a few of his shop owner buddies lol
Spongebob >>>>>> Stranger Things, My Little Pony, etc
Spiderman I’m disappointed with it dose not make sense
This game is becoming Fortnite of the TCG
Wait is spongebob universe beyond or secret lair?
Secret Lair
I bought my first paper cards because of Doctor Who. My interest in commander was sealed with Fallout. I started playing on Arena with Lord of the Rings and Wilds of Eldrain. Perfect cards to introduce me into the game. Bloom Burrow and Duskmourn is so perfect for me. I can't even describe how great my introduction to magic has been.
Seems like you should just quit magic. The whole vid sounds like you were on the verge of a breakdown. This can't be healthy for you.
Yes, we’ve all quit magic because THIS isn’t mtg
I'm working on a, lets call it "fan made" game like Magic. It's called "Conjure". It's basically my response after being years of being told "This product isn't for you" of Universe Beyond, 30th Anniversary products, and everything else Wizards has done in the past couple years. I don't have any content on RUclips yet but if it's something that sounds at all interesting to you I have some links on my channel you could check out. Maybe you could help me get a video together for RUclips, I really like how you format things.
Standard is dead they are trying to spice it up.
I'm actually fine with quitting. Not even angry anymore just kinda acceptance that this is how capitalism works and you have to sell your soul to make money...
I think if this secret lair was silver boardered like MLP was this entire situation would be 100% better and no one would be complaining about this
Interested video
I'll start by saying I'm a casual edh player and got back into the game recently after not playing for about 10 years, so maybe I'm missing something, but I'm failing to see the issue with collabs when you're still getting 4 mtg lore specific sets next year. The point is to bring as many people into the game as possible, not cater to a small crowd that hates universes beyond. Idc about most of the collabs that have come out but I have to admit it's cool AS FUCK. I'm hella happy for the people who love mtg and any of the collab sets/cards that have come out.
majority of the MTG community do not care at all for UB
The CHAD YUGIOH LOL
sponge bob deck tech please
In 2025 when we get the card revealed
None of it bothers me at all. But I’ve never cared about Magic Lore.
I don't care about the story, but I do settings and aesthetics of Magic
Well go play something else, asshole.
People like you are the reason we are in this hellish landscape right now
Cool. I hope someone shits all over something you love and tells you to smile about it.
I dare wotc to do a Call of Duty set 😂 pew pew
U right
That sweet sweet seo to get 1000 views and have it drop off 😂
If the cards are strong enough, competitive enough I would absolutely love to smash a winota or kaalia deck with SpongeBob or pony deck. I’d love every second of it!
is your IQ negative?
While I am sort of worried about Universes Beyond taking over the franchise, I don’t think it will be permanent. At least I don’t see UB being the entirety of standard for very long. Eventually the well of IPs you could realistically make into magic sets will run dry.
I too want magic to focus on the magic storyline, but if I’m going to be honest? The storyline is at kind of a low point and we’re jumping around to different theme park planes. The biggest events that happened ended as either mixed bags (war for the spark) or straight up disappointments (march of the machines… Justice for my boy Urabrask 😢)
If there’s going to be a certain time where Magic’s story is going to take a back seat, right now makes sense. I don’t think it will be forever and I hope that’s the case.
One day, it may take a few years, you will get a year, where the entire line up is UB. Calling it now.
@@MajuGen I really want you to be wrong! Though I can see it. I'm just wondering what that would even look like without the IP usage overlapping. Can't wait for the Golden Girls set.
TBH all I really care about is getting fun new cards. Whether it's magic universe based, or some random IP, I just want the cards to be fun and look good
I get this, but what this means is you like the game and care nothing for the IP. Which is fair, but there are decades of creating a play experience that many people, like you, have no appreciation for. For you all it’s just a game and not an IP.
@@AaronJuddMusic I've been playing since 2010. I care about the IP, I just don't care about the story.
The problem is that mtg won't ever dye. It'll linger on, change too much, and become a different game.
The next generations; who are overexposed by various better media/ip, won't carry it well.
There's already a demonstrable lack of interest by younger people. Imagine sitting in a whacky lopsided game only to feel like you just wasted 2hrs of your life.
Mtg has the reputation of being the woke American tcg that's becoming more n more lame. It will never return to its former glory... just existing for aging millennials.
Naw I think this is awesome magic community a bunch of babys spongebob hype
Hey i like UB that's what got me started and i love the lore of magic Ajani for life i respect your opinion and UW is the middle ground i guesa and Ulamog Doodlebops would be funny
Weak
I think overall it's a good thing, more people, myself included, are brought closer to the game because some of their favorite characters are involved.
They just need to think about the direction of each IP. Don't get it twisted, i will DEFINITELY be making a patrick star deck BUT, i think wotc should choose things are a little bit closer to the look and feel of the mtg universe. Godzilla? Sure monsters make sense. Lord of the Rings? Hell ya elves and dragons and shit. My little pony? Bruh.
I totally agree with you about the Godzilla treatment vs the walking dead disaster BUUUUUT I think that introducing people to magic with non magic content is in itself suicidal and illogical. One of the biggest mistakes WotC ever made. And Bloomburrow is one of the worst set with redwall ripoffs and cheap tribal mechanic.
PS: I love OG final fantasy with all my heart... but that Sephiroth mtg poster maybe killed MTG for me... I mean how can people think that all I want is for everything I love to fuse into one gigantic brown ball of shit?
But remember this... Phyrexia one in the end... and the great fuse of the multiverses destroyed MTG forever
Nobody likes this move and few are going to leave over it. Wizards will still make their bank, but my faith in wizards keeps going down. I already sold alot of my most expensive cards, one of which was jeweled lotus months before it got banned and i'm wondering if i kinda hunker down with only my cheapo fun cards and wait and see on this game's future.
r/freemagic is right, it is always right, abiut everything in MTG
We should all boycott, we should all start playing exclusively fan made formats like premodern and band together. We should all rally behind a reactionary movement against what MTG is now and be relentless, otherwise the Magic we all know will be dead.
Hell it's not that I am endorsing the idea of harassing the people behind the game, but every day it looks like a more enticing tactic
Spongebob
If you don't want to play against universes beyond, then just explain that to your buddy before you play. "Hey bro, no SpongeBob this time please." It's that easy.
If MTG makes less product, its a problem
If MTG makes MORE product its a problem.
There's gripes regardless.
This some old man content right here old boomer magic content
I love spongebob it's my favorite cartoon
I play the game for the card mechanics so i don't mind universes beyond
You are part of the problem
Go back to Yugioh you freak
im hype as hell for final fantasy, to say the best UB is worse than the worst in universe set is crazy, mkm was so ass and its so disengenuous to say otherwise, no shot that some of these sets were better than lotr and i dont even like lotr
Meh. I’ve been waiting 2 years for Final Fantasy since they announced it. I don’t know anyone that cares about the lore except for purists. You’re still getting story sets. While new and old players get unique cards to play. To me MTG is about the gameplay.
The greatest thing is when people realize they don’t have to buy and play with things they don’t like. But once people step back and look they will realize all of these products are bringing new people to the game.
Wow what a comment. Someone does not know how standard works….
@@riddleTCG yeah except even if I ignore Spiderman my opponent will still be playing them, so I will need to learn the cards in and out regardless in order to compete.
Also if the best in slot card comes from one of the UB sets, I need to put my morales aside and buy the card in order to have a strongest deck.
This hurts competitive play more than anything. Standard isn't Commander, but Commander has infected all aspects of Magic.
You can’t control what your opponent plays, unless we as a community start refusing to play against anyone who plays this disgraces to cardboard, like we should have back when the Walking Dead was announced.
Dude you’re so negative. Every video you complain about new sets. I think this release is awesome