Is the New Forza Horizon 5 Expansion the WORST?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Coming into this after another fun DLC seems a little bit of a downgrade. However it does introduce some interesting mechanics! Let's experience Forza Horizon 5 Rally Adventure!
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Rally expansion blew hot wheels out of the water. Just my opinion though
This dlc slapped. A lot of the roads feel really technical and fast and it doesn't just focus on the fast cars. I like that the slower cars got to shine on this one.
the roads in the expansion are amazing to drive on. imo its better than the hot wheels expansion
Coming from a hot wheels collector, and customizer, I would have to agree too
hot wheel maps suck we like real roads around here
Have you played horizon 1? For rally racing, they're still far too wide but compared to the base map at least they're not endless straights and top speed corners
@@existentialselkath1264 have played h1 but never got to play its rally expansion. i agree with the roads being too wide but its probably to have enough space for other cars in a race
@@skylonthedragon maybe, but you can already fit 3-5 unimogs side by side on most of the roads so how much space do you really need?
I absolutely love this dlc, the map is a little small, and the sand area lags, but thats literally it I have for complaints. The roads are tight, and smooth if you know how to drive, the new race type is great, antilag is awesome, and the cars aren't awful. Its a great dlc, and definitely worth the money
Hhmm can't say I noticed the lag personally are you on X or S?
I could just not buy it and play the game normally, and get the same experience
Actually are somewhat accurate into the rally, most of rally tracks are so tight, its very rare that are wide tracks.
@@adampatterson2682 I have an r5600x 3060ti 32gbddr4 pc, its supposedly an issue with terrain deformation on higher end machines
@@Under2077 I bought the ultimate upgrade for early access, so I didn't have to buy it, but I am glad I did. Antilag and whatnot are in the basegame, but the dlc sales paid the devs who added it, so I am still okay with my purchase. I would say I have had more fun in this dlc then hot wheels, and thats coming from a collector whos favorite hw casting is the deora ii. The map takes actual skill to drive unlike the base game
I feel like most people that hate on Forza and say its boring or too easy play with all the assists on and difficulty on easy. Every racing game will suck if the game drives the car for you. The rally adventure map is absolutely amazing with all assists off, the road surface is very noticeable and the curvy roads are a blast.
First thing I do when playing a racing game is turn everything off. People actually play with auto shift which is barbaric to me lol. You of course play how you want to play but it makes it so much better
Nah, I play with no assists and I get bored after 10-20 minutes. My issue is the lack of progression in the main game, being given cars constantly ruined it for me.
@@watersnortmoment3734 And yet when they do add progression, half the player base cries about not being able to drive the car they want.
The only assist I enabled is ABS. Other than that, everything is disabled and it's so good to drive around. Driving with assists and stuff is so boring.
The rally Adventure expansion is quite all right for me actually
I mean its ok not out of this world didn't even bought it just watched reviews on it
@@IhassanX so you know virtually nothing about how it actually feels.
The driving roads are amazing so much more fun than the base map
@@IhassanX it's forza horizon. Everone knows how it feel. It's trash.
I love it. I like rally cars.
Honestly, I found this expansion really fun. The map is small but it's just littered with really fun roads to drive on. But some won't like it and that's fine.
Another reminder that bigger doesn’t always mean better
@@i24kpandamonium26 not to mention if you spent 80 dollars for the ultimate edition you're technically getting this map for only 10 bucks
I'd say that's a pretty good deal.
@@destructo1997 Problem I see with most games is all size and no substance but here there is some substance to be had.
To be honest I like what he said about adding the new map to the main map. It reminds me of the days of Burnout Paradise and Big surf Island where it was just a seamless transition between the maps.
The map is a return to form, actually something decent that you actually want to drive on unlike the main map, gives me Colorado canyons vibes.
Criterion was able to incorporate expansion map DLC into the base game map on older generation hardware such as Big Surf Island in Burnout Paradise and the Fairhaven Airport in Need for Speed Most Wanted 2012. So it is possible to have expansion maps be incorporated seamlessly with the base game map but Playground Games has not done it yet for their expansion.
I 100% completed the entire expansion in 2 gaming sessions on my day off work. It’s incredibly small and in that alone might not make it worth the money. I personally had a good time playing it though. The routes are tough so gotta get good if you use unbeatable drivatars.
The rally adventure is bellow average, map is a little Sh*t stain, most cars are 1 time use (Just like toilet paper), although the bumpy roads can be refreshing, they weren't made for anything above S1 class, as some of the bumps can literally send you into a flip if you're too fast (aka good), the signs and warning are unnecessary, and by far the most redeeming things about this DLC are:
1 - The seasonal cars, which aren't specific to the DLC
and
2 - Anti-lag, which once again isn't specific to the DLC
@Octavian Roman good guess, but incorrect
Blizzard Mountain had snow = FH4's seasons
Fortune Island has thunderstorms = FH5's extreme weather conditions
Rally Adventure has big elevation and "wobbly" roads = ???
I love the DLC. I agree the progression could use a little tweaking, photo challenges aren't exactly content and "get from here to there in ___ minutes" challenges aren't either, but the driving roads both on and off road, plus the Canyon area that almost feels like Horizon 1 but somehow tighter, they really knew what they were doing with the map. One thing though, they definitely could've given more love to the DLC cars, most of them kind of suck. I dont want OP or anything but most of the buggies and some trucks just aren't fun to play with 💀
Probably the reason why the trucks and bugs are boring is because the most we can do to them is usually just an engine swap, i dont want body kits or anything but making a drift truck out of the lightning wouldn't have been bad, it feels like they just dont want to let us do what we really want, mesnwhile we can make a drift ford f150 or chevy silverado in nfs :/
@@DrFeast_3000 true. The only driftable trucks in game are the Mercedes X class and the Ford F100. Not only that but the buggies and trucks (minus the trophy trucks cuz theyre fun) all have a really weird tuning curve where if you mess it up ever so slightly in forza they suck now and they're undrivable
I love this dlc actually. It’s my favourite since storm island in FH2.
Every forza player wants japan as the next location in fh6
Forza devs : Thailand
0:10 I think the sound of the truck engine is way more detailed for a cutscene vehicle and in Thailand diesel engine tuning scene is quite big and people there modify their work trucks and almost everything that has an internet combustion engine and Ambulance included.
Also they have their own style of edm music
Please Remember that Japan is most likely a No Go.
The Japanese Government has Openly Confirmed to Kotaku that they do not want Western Developers setting their Games in Japan anymore because Western Games break too may Japanese Cultural/Societal Taboos. Given that Forza Horizon is Especially Egregious for breaking Japanese Taboo's (Promoting Western Culture, Revelry, Individualism, Non Conformity, Disrespect for Elders, Disrespect for Authority, Disrespect for Law and Order, Lazing About, and Girl Power, all of which are absolutely Frowned upon in Japan, for they are Taboo! ) there is very, very little, even non existent chance of the Japanese Government Permitting Microsoft to set a Horizon Game in their Country, as the Japanese People would find the Game Offensive.
Feel Free to blame the Developers all You want for things that genuinely are their Fault (such as their utter Laziness in their Refusal to Fix the Missing Gearshift Animations on Several Cars) , but we cannot blame them for things, such as Japan very likely saying "No", meaning they will have to use an Alternative Location (Given, however, I can see no way for them to do Thailand and comply with a PEGI 3 Rating, I doubt they would go there), that are out of their Hands.
They will set it where MS tells them to set it, most likely California, as they could make that extremely Cheaply using Recycled Assets from FH1, 3 and 5.
No. Every Forza player does want Japan. It's a vocal minority who have convinced themselves they're a majority
Not me thinking you could actually turn cars into offroad spec (the thumbnail got me lmao)
Best Expansion in Years
Reminds me of my Favourite Expansion Storm Island
Plus the Addition of Anti Lag has Restored my Love for The Horizon Series
Jumping back into this game, I was quickly reminded how terrible the dialogue and voice acting is...I had to mute the dialogue audio entirely and it's been a significantly better experience ever since lol
Great video as always Theo. I highly agree with what you said about a street racing expansion. That’s what Forza should do. If they made a street racing expansion I would hop back on game without any hesitation
Theres already a whole streatracing story in the main game.
@@briansimmons6292 Yeah there is but it’s not really that good in my opinion especially since I’ve played the franchise since 2014 and it’s just not the same anymore. They really watered down the car aspect of Forza Horizon
Theo; *Complains about lack of progression in Forza*
Also Theo; *Complains about the progression they do add*
I recently started saying consistent progression is more important than progression itself. I complained about this in the NFS Heat DLC, I complained about this here too
The last thing that a game with a map that is 80% off-road/desert needs is a rally DLC. Case closed. The map is literally just a smaller version of the base game’s map, and this whole expansion is just repetitive, and a waste of time. Turn off the co-driver callouts and it’s literally just the base game. All Horizon is anymore is just rallying and off-road. At this point, Horizon 6 will just be an open world Dirt 5. I miss back when we had variety in the maps. Back when we had things like Surfer’s Paradise in Horizon 3. Street/road racing has been reduced to almost nothing in Horizon
I hate how they ignore the people everyone wants japan but they just ignore us.
There not going to make a dlc in a totally different country
I absolutely loved the small details they added to this expansion. It definitely has been one of my favorite ones by far.
much better than the hot wheels expansion. also EVENTUALLY you are much better off with a slower car or an A class ride on these races. narrow roads, tight corners. really cool expansion. but short
Of course there was caravans blocking the road😒
Btw that F-150 is an EV car if someone doesn't know
Abouy the rally is reasonable why some tracks are tight, also using Alexa to do directions, however it could be great if the add the gear recomended (for example Left 5 or Right 2)
Rally tracks are mostly tight, also the copilot is the one who tell directions.
For example in directions the copilot say:
"left 2 gets open to 48 mile straight, incoming posible jump and right 4, be careful we'll enter in mud to right 6"
The meaning of this is a close turn, the better option is use 2nd gear and floor it when the turn becomes open, jump if its necesary and the turn right 4 is in 4th gear and be careful there's gonna be mud and its slippy to the right 6, one mistake at the turns and you'll end up flying out the track and crash into something, thats why in the expansion there's walls in the turns.
the fact that this guy doesn't like the expansion actually speaks good about it. Because Theo is an arcade, non-competitive player. The fact that he actually chose to drive a Bugatti to showcase the rally expansion is proof of this. Hot wheels expansion was for this people. Arcade, full of silly roads, jumps and cars. Whereas with this one it actually feels hardcore. Don't get me wrong, it's still Forza, can't ask for much. But the roads are nice and tight, the events are skillful if you disable all the aids, and the cars and antilag really blend in with the mix. I feel this was made for us, the people who want to learn and improve our driving, to compete with our friends in the leaderboards and to feel like one little mistake ruins your run.
He always hates anything that isn't MW2005 every time an amazing Racing games comes out or DLC he finds something to complain about this DLC is amazing his takes are sometimes very strange
They ran out of ideas. That's what we all get when you chase ratings and profits. Makes an unenjoyable experience.
Yeah man cos rally is proper popular innit.
I’d say this is the opposite. It’s like these two expansions exist in response to the delisting of previous expansions
It's an ok DLC. I actually like rally, but this DLC only had one rally car and more buggies and trucks. Buggy and Truck adventure would be more fitting, and the only good thing is the tight road sections. Not ungrateful, but they could have done much better.
The Rally Adventure expansion was fun but it wasn't really necessary
All I wish they'd do is make it harder to build a collection of cars. The fun goes too quickly.
the game might not be the best but I still have an insane amount of respect for the people who spent hours to create this.
This is the best open world racing game we have right now especially with all the cars available in game not to mention the maps. Anyone that says need for speed unbound or the crew 2 is better clearly are sniffing something 😂💯👏🏼
It has to be said despite the poor size of the map the concrete roads are by far the best cruising roads in any Forza game, what it lacks in size for cruising roads it makes up in quality in my humble opinion
Exactly I agree
Rally is all abut the shifts and the e-brake, and running redline a LOT. Redline helps you handle better at faster speeds. Hard turns, pop the E broke lke 50 yards from the turn, then downshift and feather the throttle, pop the e-brake again if you need to. Medium turns, pop the ebrake and slight turn whichever direction, normal turns let off gas slightly and Accelerate full throttle out of EVERY turn.
I've described this expansion talking with my friends as, "Not what Forza Horizon needed, but definitely what I've needed out of Forza Horizon." It doesn't really fix any of my qualms with the series, but it does actually do a great job of reminding me of what it is I like about the games.
That said, when you were on about a street racing expansion in a proper big city all I could think of is how THE GAME TAKES PLACE IN MEXICO. MEXICO CITY, IS RIGHT FUCKING THERE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUCKING AMAZING, BUT NO. LET'S CHARGE $20 FOR A GLORIFIED MAP PACK AND SOME UI OPTIONS THAT COULD AND SHOULD'VE BEEN ADDED TO THE CORE GAME.
this is literally the best expansion and you are wrong if you say otherwise.
the roads are the best to drive on and finally put more emphasis on handling builds and not power builds.
usually they concentrate on making the map look good first and then make the roads around that but this time it really feels like they made the roads really nice to drive first then they went back and built the map around the roads.
@Donald Pump - "Make America Lift Again" I bet you call yourself a free thinker. A city expansion would be boring, and pretty impossible to add because of last gen consoles
The call outs are kind of pointless when there's barriers, checkpoints and a mini map lol you can already see where ur going..
This video was so heavily biast due to NFS, a game that was abandoned at launch yet blackpanthaa still white knights for that game even though it really want even that good
Love this expansion. The map is alot of fun despite being small. Takes me back to FH1 days
For the "Extreme" players that binge all the content in less than 2 days, these DLCs are pretty underwhelming. But I personally take my sweet time, and I honestly really liked it. I'm not a "100%" fan of rally, but I like it a lot still, so it's pretty fun to do some of the events in faster cars (A rank specifically, or even higher), because then the roads seem pretty small and you need to drive a bit more carefully, but still fast in the corners and stuff. I really liked both the HotWheels DLC and this one, but this one seems a bit more fun to me, even though it might be as small, or smaller, than the HotWheels one. Either way, the roads are pretty good to drive, so at least that's a plus for me.
This DLC just doesn't have much content. I also always take my time to play and explore. (With all games). Nevertheless, I was through with the DLC in one weekend. And I have played a maximum of 1-2 hours a day...
Ngl the only disappointment I’ve got from this DLC is how incredible the map design is compared to the main map. The driving roads and overall character of the map is another level compared to the main map, especially the canyon and palm tree jungles. It’s left me wishing main map with its larger scale had such quality. We can only hope they take this map design forward for fh6, like they usually do with DLC’s.
One thing that's good in the DLC is the road layout. They said that the main map was designed for the eliminator mode but that just made it flat and boring. In FH4 choosing the right way made the mode interesting. Now you hold the gas and pray for the best. This also made normal racing boring. Let's hope they keep the winding roads and elevation changes in the next game
Better than any Lego or hotwheels expansion, but boring after an hour.
I recommend playing without the mini map it makes it a much better experience.
It’s good i just think its too small and short to play through. Also the cars seemed boring to me, we only got one real rally car and the rest was just trucks very similar to ones we already have
You need High end S1 to S2 Rally's for Alejandras team, it's actually more road than anything else, but the zones/traps want high speeads, I wound up rallying out a Divo, and the Sian, and of course used the Hoonigan RS200 on most races. I finished every thing besides smashin boards in about 5 hours, on pro difficulty, manual shifting and mostly first person.
the Sian is AMAZING with MY tune, no other tune does work a crap lol, same with the Divo, and every other car i used.
Not played it yet but judging from the comments this expansion is a massive success.
I wish the map was bigger and I also wish they added more "normal" cars rather than almost all buggies and trophy trucks
The roads are much much better than both the main game and hot wheels expansion
Plus playing the races in rally mode is also fun, not knowing if you are winning or losing, so you are constantly trying to drive better till you reach the finish line.
By far the hot wheels expansion in horizon 5. Recycled from horizon 3. The roads in the rally dlc plus the already big number of rally cars in forza 5 makes it really nice too roam around. If lancia fiat and alfa would come back i would be satisfied
I like the rally expansion map, while it looks pretty same as the original map, the technical roads and the feel are interestingly different, but that should be in the base game, and routes are too wide for rally. Imo, it should be narrower and more handling based.
I'm enjoying this expansion so far. Mainly for the roads tbh.
forza horizon try not to be the most boring racing game to ever exist challenge, IMPOSSIBLE!!
The Lamborghini Sian was gifted to everyone during the Secret Santa event.
Every expansion needs a gimmick to the environments. I don't mind the same biome as the base map, but it would have been the perfect opportunity for tighter remotely challenging roads.
Instead they're just a bit more winding and bumpy, but still far off from even horizon 1! With only 1 actually rally car as well, I genuinely don't see the point unless you REALLY wanted more of the same
He's here complaining about co-driver shout out and it's unnecessary because of mini map. Why don't you turn off the mini map as you play the whole expansion.
There already was a street and drag racing expansion that was added via a Forza Horizion 2 expansion with fast and furious 2
The hot wheels in Fh5 was just to much felt like you were gunna crash every race, rally adventures was fun to me the the roads are good, even the races they put together are fun, it feels good to down shift for a hairpin and drift around it with your car popping and banging from anti lag
The map is too small and isn`t visually distinct enough from the main map, but is orherwise great. However, that cursed helicopter singlehandedly ruined the whole thing for me, and I shut the game down half way through the first night time race. The fact it`s extremely noisy (stopping you from being able to really hear the car) and the fact that it kicks up alot of dust and impairs visability are bad enough, but couple all that with the abnoxious searchlight that cause a stupid (if adimitiedly pretty realistic) amount of glare on the water particles in the air, and on the water on the road, causing an already pretty annoying and useless "mechanic" to become streight up agravating, and honestly a deal breaker for me... It also breaks my immersion, in part because of the aformentioned visual and auditory aspects, but also because as far as I`m aware, rally drivers don`t usually have a chopper following them throughout the entire stage, or atleast not this close.
If it were a one off thing, or for specific races than fine, but having that thing make every race miserable is too much... I genuinly hope they add in the option to remove the chopper (probably not happening though)
It is the best expansion in PC gen. Forza history in my opinion. I never ever had a chance to try FH and FH2. But from FH3 until now, this is the best expansion, for me. I love rally and twisty roads. Also, I love trophy trucks. So, win win for me!
Wow, people seem to really like spending extra money to get the base game but with a few extra cars
I would had prefer a police theme expansion.
Or a race track expansion with a mix of motorsport.
Maybe even another collaboration expansion like Cars 1 , 2 , 3 for example maybe even cyberpunk 2077 with Night City.
1:34 Rally is my favourite
8:08 I am not really interested in rally
Make up your mind pants 😂
HAHAHAHA rally is the most interesting Motorsport imo
To play in arcade form... Less so
I think instead of having one led on a drone; they should put the light on their wings. It would give out some good light effects! Just like they do in Arduino builds.🤔
The DLC is fine. I like the map, new cars, and the rally mode with the helicopter with pace notes. I don’t like that every car in the DLC besides the Focus and the lightning are the exact same in terms of upgrades. Same engine swaps, same top speed, somewhat equal weight reduction, no tire size change, and probably a few more.
The antilag become annoying 5 minutes after you installed it on your car, the roads are amazing, the lack of real rally cars (if I hear rally, my monkey brain automaticly links me to group b) from the past is a bummer, the races are competitive and it indeed feels like a watered down festival playlist. I bought the ultimate deluxe cheesus edition of the game at launch so...I wouldn't pay for this dlc. the roads are fun, yes. But the rest is boring af.
I would say it's the best expansion. Finally, one having to do with actual car culture and not gimmicky stuff like lego or hotwheels. And the map is absolutely amazing.
Yea I don't blame you for having a 5/10 feeling about this event DLC, yea some things are little depressing to say the least about this new game.
One Last Expansion dlc should be something like Uphill and Downhill racing plus with a few Time Attack bodykits for our Jdm cars like a few civics and Toyota the iconic ones should get great extreme bodykits for maximum time attack and i think that can be amazing after this ^-^
Uphill and Downhill should be on a Beautiful mountain with great roads for that kind of racing
it's definitely very fun
Theo, if you say that this is the worst expansion in Forza History, just remember we had a Halo expansion that was only a CAR
I downloaded the expansion and once it started up, my game crashed. So I had to re install it again and now it works. So far it’s pretty good though
The fact Theo thinks this is a downgrade shows that he knows nothing about racing games all he cares about is muh MW2005
EA man plays rally expansion, his cognitive downfall is immeasurable
Man you are crazy. This is the best expansion. It's completely new and it's not just weather. Rally is awesome and having it in an arcade racer is cool. I find it a lot mor fun than Rally Sims like WRC.
ngl, after playing through the whole campaign the expansion is actually very good. expansion 1 still is better IMO, but expansion 2 is very much worth it. honestly, you were too critical about the expansion.
i actually really like this dlc because even though its basic on the surface, the map/road layout is probably the best they've ever done, and using a slammed drift transit van on a rally stage is something that you cant do in any other game
the helicopter is super annoying though especially in the night races
Very cool video black panthaa
One of the best Horizon expansion in quite a while, for real
Steam Reviews: "Mostly negative"
...yeah, I expected that when people started hyping a street racing expansion idea...
Hot Wheels and Rally, is this Forza Horizon 3?
The map gives fh2 Storm island vibes and the expansion itself is straight from fh1's rally expansion
The new DLC is awesome... Play Ground games should be proud of themselves for creating this masterpiece and bringing 'fun' back to Forza.. Challenging tracks with superb visuals.. Doubt i'll be heading back to the main map any time soon...
Just put "paint it black" in the background of a rally race, you'll have fun.
They should just finally make the Forza Rally game they have wanted to make for years now to get it out of their system.
They’ve been saying superstar instead of my name since day one
As a person who do NOT want rally, it wasn’t too bad. The roads are pretty sick but that alone isn’t enough to convince friends to buy a nearly $20 expansion. We just want more cars new and old. This game has so much potential but they’re just holding out
Hot wheels 2 is the worst expansion they've done because after 5 minutes of playing it, I just thought I was back on horizon 3. Nowts really changed.
They should do a street racing or touring car expansion even if we have to wait for the next game, just proper racing maybe on actual racetracks would be cool, i get so bored of doing the same aimless races across the map tbh
The technicality of the roads is on point. I think Playground Games nailed this expansion. I do wish it was a larger map but thankfully the way it was designed it feels larger than it seems.
dont forget pants ingame name is sausage
Most exciting part of this one is anti lag and launch control... Best additions for Drag and Drift Cars
I dont like the way that with the races they dont want you to slide around the corners like in real life rally using the handbrajw alot instead of the brake if i slide i always come 4 or 3
I think it’s fun, as long as I get more races and a different map of some sort I’ll be happy.
Alot of people saying that this is a good update..
Theo that doesn't like the game : the worst update
Man have a break, have a kitkat
I said the update is good
I think the resolution issues are actually to do with your HUD scaling, at least for me on 1440p that's the issue.
Kinda bugs me that a rally DLC doesn't have much in the way of rally cars
I'm just saying that in the desert area, with a 4090 the frame rate drops to 5 fps..
the only thing that completely ruins the expansion for me is the callouts, i'd preffer if it called out 2 corners ahead not what ever the fuck's infort of me making me feel like richard hammon in the classic rally with the midget co driver when the midget starts giving instructions on the road bassed on what he sees directly infront of him.