I was lucky enough to attend ISE 2023 and had to make sure that I didn’t leave without seeing, hearing and definitely feeling the bass from the Krix demo. We were not let down - it was awesome
This for sure has to be felt in person. It should be an unbeliveble experience! Love the tour and interview. Just drive from Barcelona and come visit me here in Portugal next bro! Hehe! Love you man... keep giving us the inspiration videos!
Sorry boys, 16 subs is OK for casual TV watching but if you want a serious "reference level" system you need a minimum of 24 subwoofer's preferably 16 inch PLUS. My uncle Ned, as you all know has 3 dedicated home theaters in his house and the small theater has 24" subs, the mid size home theater has 38 subwoofers. Now the large home theater has 64-24" custom made Wilson Audio subwoofers. Now everyone knows My Uncle Ned is a little but crazy, but he does make a good point that more subwoofers equal a more consistent approach to low end frequency.
Man, what a treat it must have been to be inside that room. Had to have felt like pure HT porn. Gonna dream about winning the lottery tonight so I can get this. 😂
I’m in the process of a major theater overhaul that will include a Christie Eclipse going in. The area was surveyed last week, and I’ll be working with various teams to implement this bass array as part of the redesign. I already have an Altitude 32, many subs, and plan to add an Alcone 32”. I’m very excited to hear more about this new approach to bass - as well as feedback from people that’ve heard it. Great video BTW.
@@azilko Im working on the video interview with Trinnov CEO Arnaud Laborie right now so you will get a better idea from him. The technology was outstanding to experience. It seems to be be best demonstrated at the show with a DBA, but will work with other layouts and less subs. Stay tuned for the video.
I felt very lucky to experience this room twice at ISE being an end user! That bass really hit your chest hard. Great to meet you out there too Tony 👍🏻
The production levels on this video were amazing. You really.. REALLY displayed what you could do. These guys were smart to send you down to show us this demonstration of what you can do. I think it tells me that I need to work on getting some more subs!
With the technology from Trinnov with the new bass management the back 8 are actually cancelling out the standing waves and reducing the decay time to around 50ms which makes for less boomy and very impactful bass, however the back ones are really cancelling out the sound - its pretty crazy to experience.
@@BuildMontage Fascinating! He mentions doing the same thing but with fewer subs. Makes me wonder if in future we'll get systems with 2 front subs and 2 back subs in a room doing the same type of thing, and if it'll make doing room acoustics easier.
@@jeffjefferson7384 Yes in the next video I interview Arnaud Laborie who will explain it with more detail. The double bass array was simply the best way to demonstrate the technology in a show condition - but the plan is to do with far fewer subs - 3 in the front and 2 in the back kind of thing.
Although I am a home theatre enthusiast, I can’t help think this level of audio is going to the extreme as far as cost and viability, sure a system like this in a 10m home makes sense, but spending this type of money on an average home is insanity. I know this is near the peak of sound quality for home theatre, but you could spend many thousands less to get a shit kicking sound from other brands. Just my opinion of coarse.
This was a trade show, and it was to showcase a new technology so it was intentional to go big and make a bang. The idea behind this was that you could have this level of performance, but of course more people will not go to this exctent. It was really cool to experience I will say in person.
Cool opportunity! Help me make sense of this, the room costs around $700k (or pounds, whatever, a ton of money in any language!), and put some $200 IKEA couches in it? Lol
It's a show... thousands of people coming in and out, so they looked pretty ratty by the end of the show - no point wasting money on expensive theater lounges :D
We have no choice... the 37 hours included the travel from my house (I left super early!), train ride to Sydney airport, waiting to check in, then the airport lounge, flights to dubai, layover and final trip to Barcelona... Would do it again in a heartbeat!
LOL - probably, but this implementation is really you're hearing 8 subwoofers as the other 8 cancel out the standing wave/reflections. It's pretty crazy technology - and I will have that video coming next :)
My understanding is that this will be a new update to Trinnov processors including the 16 (20). Do you know if we will need 6-8 subwoofers or having 4 two in the front and two in the back can take advantage of this new processing?
I am working on the next video with CEO Arnaud Laborie where he breaks down the tech - and yes, it will be possible with less subs, as Arnaud Destinay alluded to in his section of this video.
What an amazing experience this must have been for anyone remotely interested in Home Cinema, I cant wait to attempt a cutdown version in our own showroom. Congratulations Tony being able to share this with the world.
So are they able to do with less (more manageable) amount of subwoofers? Like if you had a MX-20 how many rear subwoofers would you need to achieve a similar result?
@@benmcc7729 There will be more details about this coming soon. This was a trade show so they went all out for the "wow" factor, but yes, it can be done with less.
Hi Singh - the MX-40 LCR's require 2 channels of amplification each, one for the low frequency, and one for the mid/high frequency (there's a passive crossover between these two). So somewhere in the chain, an active crossover is required to split the signal for the LF and MF/HF components. This can be done inside the Trinnov Altitude, so the front LCR speakers actually use 6 output channels. I hope this answers your question!
@@Singh-pq7tk there are other high end processors that can handle active crossover management. The functionality can also be found in some amplifiers, or you can use external signal processing devices. We'd recommend talking to your local supplier/installer to find the right equipment for your requirements.
@@krixdotcomthanks once again, for best home theatre experience we need 1)Av receivers - merges the audio & video 2)Processors with crossover - process the audio signals better. 3)Amplifiers - powers the speakers 4)Sets of sub woofers and speakers- 5) bluray player is there anything else required in terms of hardware which i missed above. Which brands of speakers and processors would u like to suggest.
@@Singh-pq7tk AV Receivers can generally handle video and audio processing as well as amplification. AV Processors handle the processing, but don't provide amplification, so the audio signal is handed off to a power amplifier. The speakers you choose will determine whether you need active crossovers. A projector/TV will be required for visuals, and a UHD, media player or streaming device. We'd recommend talking to an AV dealer near you to discuss your requirements. As we are the speaker manufacturer (shown in the video) we'd obviously recommend auditioning our speakers. We also partner with Trinnov Audio for digital audio processing.
Awesome video! What a huge event and what an awesome room that you got to experience. Thanks for filming and bringing it to us to see. The next video will be fun. I'd love to see more on the new technology for bass management. I still can't get my head around it... Barcelona looks awesome. Great b-roll footage. Did you use your fancy 360 camera for the footage up high?
nothing new with this room . not like i felt experienced x16 subs JBL 4645C for cinema use before ? Empire Leicester Square , 56kw THX , a bit toppy on the MF/HF horns to surrounds it was . original CIC Empire Leicester Square '89 JBL THX where the bass was hard core . have you experienced sensurround ? i have 5 times ! after that cinemas felt sounded the same before THX came along . THX at the 89 JBLTHX Empire was like sensurround only the bar was raised lot higher and was way better than sensurround . and this , trinnov32 thing ? i was 99.999% ready to drop £28k on one this week , but after 20 hrs i came to auto - common sense and closed the deal , didn't want it . i read the manual on trinnov32 now 6 times and it is so flawed . i wouldn't put a trinnov32 , into a dog cat recuse shelter as ex retried professional projectionist i wouldn't touch a trinnov32 , trinnov couldn't even give one to me for free all the subs bass and does any of those small krix do the same as i felt heard in professional THX cinemas ? i doubt i know what to look for , listen for and feel for
Thank you Tony for this nice video, I will also be following the next ISE 2023 videos carefully. If you know him, I am interested to know who is the person in the video talking about Sony, he introduced himself as Maxim but did not say the role and his full name , I'm looking for a reference in Sony to deepen technical topics on the motion flow of the GTZ380. Thank you
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I was lucky enough to attend ISE 2023 and had to make sure that I didn’t leave without seeing, hearing and definitely feeling the bass from the Krix demo. We were not let down - it was awesome
That was incredible Tony!!! Congratulations on getting to go see that and enjoy it.
Thanks Chris :)
What an amazing opportunity. That room must have looked and sounded amazing. Wow.
This for sure has to be felt in person. It should be an unbeliveble experience! Love the tour and interview. Just drive from Barcelona and come visit me here in Portugal next bro! Hehe! Love you man... keep giving us the inspiration videos!
HAHA! Next time for sure :D
Would love to see this room brought to Australia to one of the hifi shows for presentation.
Hopefully one will be built!
6:08 Lars is the best!
Sorry boys, 16 subs is OK for casual TV watching but if you want a serious "reference level" system you need a minimum of 24 subwoofer's preferably 16 inch PLUS. My uncle Ned, as you all know has 3 dedicated home theaters in his house and the small theater has 24" subs, the mid size home theater has 38 subwoofers. Now the large home theater has 64-24" custom made Wilson Audio subwoofers. Now everyone knows My Uncle Ned is a little but crazy, but he does make a good point that more subwoofers equal a more consistent approach to low end frequency.
Man, what a treat it must have been to be inside that room. Had to have felt like pure HT porn. Gonna dream about winning the lottery tonight so I can get this. 😂
It was a great experience for sure
now, to watch Spiderman in 5.1
I’m in the process of a major theater overhaul that will include a Christie Eclipse going in. The area was surveyed last week, and I’ll be working with various teams to implement this bass array as part of the redesign. I already have an Altitude 32, many subs, and plan to add an Alcone 32”. I’m very excited to hear more about this new approach to bass - as well as feedback from people that’ve heard it.
Great video BTW.
Nice one… great projector. Sounds like a great room. Still with the Legacy speakers?
Yep, not sure if I’ll keep them or “upgrade” however. I’m not sure what would be considered an upgrade though.
@@BuildMontage I’d love to know your personal thoughts on the bass array as well.
@@azilko Im working on the video interview with Trinnov CEO Arnaud Laborie right now so you will get a better idea from him. The technology was outstanding to experience. It seems to be be best demonstrated at the show with a DBA, but will work with other layouts and less subs. Stay tuned for the video.
I felt very lucky to experience this room twice at ISE being an end user! That bass really hit your chest hard. Great to meet you out there too Tony 👍🏻
It was great to meet you Mark - always great to meet my room tour owners! Your room just hit 80K views which is awesome!
Yes I’ve been keeping a little eye on that. Thanks again Tony and good luck with the channel
The production levels on this video were amazing. You really.. REALLY displayed what you could do. These guys were smart to send you down to show us this demonstration of what you can do. I think it tells me that I need to work on getting some more subs!
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Did he say 16 SUBWOOFERS!!?!?!?!? ♥️🔥♥️🔥
With the technology from Trinnov with the new bass management the back 8 are actually cancelling out the standing waves and reducing the decay time to around 50ms which makes for less boomy and very impactful bass, however the back ones are really cancelling out the sound - its pretty crazy to experience.
@@BuildMontage Fascinating! He mentions doing the same thing but with fewer subs. Makes me wonder if in future we'll get systems with 2 front subs and 2 back subs in a room doing the same type of thing, and if it'll make doing room acoustics easier.
@@jeffjefferson7384 Yes in the next video I interview Arnaud Laborie who will explain it with more detail. The double bass array was simply the best way to demonstrate the technology in a show condition - but the plan is to do with far fewer subs - 3 in the front and 2 in the back kind of thing.
got more subs then bed channel👀
Thanks for always providing such great content!
Glad you enjoy it!
Hey Tony, how did this HT room feel compared to others you've been in (or even cinemas)?
Was great. A new experience, lively room yet no echo or reverb, insanely good bass response from all seats. I think its the future.
My Dream home theatre if I win the Lotto!!!
phenomenal but deffo overkill,could'nt afford one of the speakers never mind it's 34 friends lol!!!..
It was a show so it had to be :)
Although I am a home theatre enthusiast, I can’t help think this level of audio is going to the extreme as far as cost and viability, sure a system like this in a 10m home makes sense, but spending this type of money on an average home is insanity. I know this is near the peak of sound quality for home theatre, but you could spend many thousands less to get a shit kicking sound from other brands. Just my opinion of coarse.
This was a trade show, and it was to showcase a new technology so it was intentional to go big and make a bang. The idea behind this was that you could have this level of performance, but of course more people will not go to this exctent. It was really cool to experience I will say in person.
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Hi energy production & presentation, would have loved to have experienced all of that!!
It was an incredible experience.
4 subwoofers is enough. You can splurge for 6. But 16 just means you hate your neighbors.
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Damn i would taken a plane to barcelona just to hear this! wish i knew
Tell them to ship the room to me next😅🤣
This room was a "real" room - a $700K room yes, but a room that anyone would be stoked to have in their home.
Would love to build this - if only it was 99% cheaper 🤣🤣
Cool opportunity! Help me make sense of this, the room costs around $700k (or pounds, whatever, a ton of money in any language!), and put some $200 IKEA couches in it? Lol
$100 maybe!
It's a show... thousands of people coming in and out, so they looked pretty ratty by the end of the show - no point wasting money on expensive theater lounges :D
do you mind sharing whats the brand of the seating?
It’s just basic seats from ikea
The Beard in Barcelona for an amazing event. Excellent.
Woof woof! ❤
Amazing and such a beautiful clean room
Not enough bass! 🤣
HAHA
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1:17 ONLY 37 HOURS! Australians are just built differently when it comes to travel.
We have no choice... the 37 hours included the travel from my house (I left super early!), train ride to Sydney airport, waiting to check in, then the airport lounge, flights to dubai, layover and final trip to Barcelona... Would do it again in a heartbeat!
Dammmmmm 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 ...... Hope u still love ur home theater system . Ha ha ha . I m waiting for ur next video
It makes me appreciate my setup even more - I smaller version of this setup - although I have the Hyperphonix45 as my surrounds and wides :)
I just bet there is a home cinema out there somewhere that has 32 subwoofers !!!!!😁
Maybe an 80 inch subwoofer in Germany? Or maybe a star wars home theater in Louisiana for $1,000,000?
LOL - probably, but this implementation is really you're hearing 8 subwoofers as the other 8 cancel out the standing wave/reflections. It's pretty crazy technology - and I will have that video coming next :)
HUH?
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My understanding is that this will be a new update to Trinnov processors including the 16 (20). Do you know if we will need 6-8 subwoofers or having 4 two in the front and two in the back can take advantage of this new processing?
I am working on the next video with CEO Arnaud Laborie where he breaks down the tech - and yes, it will be possible with less subs, as Arnaud Destinay alluded to in his section of this video.
Amazing and unique room tour Tony, well done!
Thank you mate #milkbuns
I 💖Mauritzio Acustica Conti.
What a magnificent beard
HAHA Thank you - it can get wild sometimes!
This is a cool video bro - nice job editing, this takes work man much appreciated
Thank you 🙏 it was an epic edit definitely :)
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I might have missed it in the video but what was the cost of that entire setup? How much would it cost to build that exact room for a client?
It was in the video but in excess of $700K - based on build and electronics, speakers etc
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What an amazing experience this must have been for anyone remotely interested in Home Cinema, I cant wait to attempt a cutdown version in our own showroom. Congratulations Tony being able to share this with the world.
Thanks Mick - I'm sure your showroom would be a great candidate to demonstrate this new technology.. you have all the right gear!
So are they able to do with less (more manageable) amount of subwoofers?
Like if you had a MX-20 how many rear subwoofers would you need to achieve a similar result?
@@benmcc7729 There will be more details about this coming soon. This was a trade show so they went all out for the "wow" factor, but yes, it can be done with less.
2154,$,XWX
@12:52 - 13:00 what he is telling could any one elaborate?
Hi Singh - the MX-40 LCR's require 2 channels of amplification each, one for the low frequency, and one for the mid/high frequency (there's a passive crossover between these two). So somewhere in the chain, an active crossover is required to split the signal for the LF and MF/HF components. This can be done inside the Trinnov Altitude, so the front LCR speakers actually use 6 output channels. I hope this answers your question!
@@krixdotcom great thanks for ur info. But only trinnov have this feature or any alternative is there?
@@Singh-pq7tk there are other high end processors that can handle active crossover management. The functionality can also be found in some amplifiers, or you can use external signal processing devices. We'd recommend talking to your local supplier/installer to find the right equipment for your requirements.
@@krixdotcomthanks once again, for best home theatre experience we need
1)Av receivers - merges the audio & video
2)Processors with crossover - process the audio signals better.
3)Amplifiers - powers the speakers
4)Sets of sub woofers and speakers-
5) bluray player
is there anything else required in terms of hardware which i missed above.
Which brands of speakers and processors would u like to suggest.
@@Singh-pq7tk AV Receivers can generally handle video and audio processing as well as amplification. AV Processors handle the processing, but don't provide amplification, so the audio signal is handed off to a power amplifier. The speakers you choose will determine whether you need active crossovers. A projector/TV will be required for visuals, and a UHD, media player or streaming device. We'd recommend talking to an AV dealer near you to discuss your requirements.
As we are the speaker manufacturer (shown in the video) we'd obviously recommend auditioning our speakers. We also partner with Trinnov Audio for digital audio processing.
16 subwoofers all i can say is wow...great video ..
Awesome video! What a huge event and what an awesome room that you got to experience. Thanks for filming and bringing it to us to see.
The next video will be fun. I'd love to see more on the new technology for bass management. I still can't get my head around it...
Barcelona looks awesome. Great b-roll footage. Did you use your fancy 360 camera for the footage up high?
Yes video 3 will be a personal video about my trip
Very interesting setup. The room looked pretty big so I'm guessing that's why 16 subs were used. Were some of the subs suspended above other subs?
It was covered in the video, check the chapter markers for Officina Acustica and Trinnov and it explains the reasons why and also room dimension :)
WOW! Which movies were used as demos? I guess Dunkirk and John Wick 2? :-)
There were a number, Blade Runner 2049, John Wick 3, 13 Hours, Tiesto, and more. Couldn’t show too much due to copyright.
@@BuildMontage I need watch 13 hours, need need to re-watch BR 2049. I'm going to do a JW marathon soon to prepare for the new film
love the channel
Hi what were the room dimensions?
9m x 6m x 3.5m (it was in the video but easy to miss I guess)
7:45 he talks about dimensions
First!? Looks amazing.
The room itself is now technically a subwoofer.
nothing new with this room . not like i felt experienced x16 subs JBL 4645C for cinema use before ? Empire Leicester Square , 56kw THX , a bit toppy on the MF/HF horns to surrounds it was . original CIC Empire Leicester Square '89 JBL THX where the bass was hard core . have you experienced sensurround ? i have 5 times ! after that cinemas felt sounded the same before THX came along . THX at the 89 JBLTHX Empire was like sensurround only the bar was raised lot higher and was way better than sensurround . and this , trinnov32 thing ? i was 99.999% ready to drop £28k on one this week , but after 20 hrs i came to auto - common sense and closed the deal , didn't want it . i read the manual on trinnov32 now 6 times and it is so flawed .
i wouldn't put a trinnov32 , into a dog cat recuse shelter
as ex retried professional projectionist i wouldn't touch a trinnov32 , trinnov couldn't even give one to me for free
all the subs bass and does any of those small krix do the same as i felt heard in professional THX cinemas ? i doubt
i know what to look for , listen for and feel for
Hills hoist, Scott bonar, Holden VAF and Krix, thanks RAdelaide
SA FTW!
Thank you Tony for this nice video, I will also be following the next ISE 2023 videos carefully. If you know him, I am interested to know who is the person in the video talking about Sony, he introduced himself as Maxim but did not say the role and his full name , I'm looking for a reference in Sony to deepen technical topics on the motion flow of the GTZ380. Thank you
I'll see if I can find out :)
@@BuildMontage ❤
It's amazing.
First!
Also - great bday gift with a BM video
Edit - second….
I can never tell whos first LOL! And yes mate happy birthday!
Amazing set-up it would be Amazing sound it would be great to be there .Great video clip Thankyou.
Thanks Gary, it was an incredible trip