Is Methadone the Key to Less Addictive Opioid Pain Medicines?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Is Methadone the Key to Less Addictive Opioid Pain Medicines? Scientists from NIDA’s Intramural Labs discuss what we can learn from methadone, a drug used to manage opioid addiction that does not have euphoric effects as strong as many other opioids.
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I purposely left pain management to go to a clinic. The CDC doesn't allow doctors to administer therapeutic dosage levels anymore and now thanks to CV your visits to the clinic are much fewer. I've been there two months and am now going only once a week, and counseling is over the phone as well. Simple. Also thanks to the fact that clinics now accept insurance I have so far paid $0.00, yeah. So in two more months I will receive my meds. at my normal levels before the CDC destroyed my life once a month for free....I now have a significant physical presence in my life and going to a clinic and leaving pain management has been a good decision.
me also also I was listed with drug seeking behavior by the doctor who gave me MRSA in a back surgery and I threatened to sue. Sadly I didn't I didn't even know whom or what was the reason I suddenly couldn't get help with Medicaid yet cash was a discussion of 200 a month and my behavior and quiet use.
So it's better for you to be classed as an addict in USA than pain management? Interested
@@dabideallis4859yes it’s sad
I never felt euphoric from mscontin. I took 15 mg immediate release and 15 mg time release both 3x daily for years until moving to Texas and being turned away by all pain facilities. Now Im left to figure out how to deal with all of this nerve pain from a six car pile up and come off opioids at home. Its cruel and inhumane! The government freely gives meth to heroine addicts but if you’re in chronic pain good luck. Lord help us.
Go look up getting on methadone. It will save your life
Oh and methadone is not a methamphetamine lmfaooo oh boy nvm yea your in for hell of an adventure
keep searching for a good pain doctor - I live in TX, myself and I know they’re out there. You may also consider talking to your doctor about trying gabapentin for your nerve pain. Good luck and don’t give up! I hope you have found or will soon find relief.
@@anthonyrez7000 I think she realizes the difference between speed and a strong opiate.
Its not meth it’s methadone
can't understand a word
What is drugs? Never heard of him
You can 100% be addicted to Methadone it is a full opioid agonist and does create euphoria even in lower doses, The only beneficial part of it is that in higher doses it does block the opioid receptors from other narcotics but other drugs do this much better like suboxone. it is a good painkiller for cancer and other chronic pain issues but its rarely prescribed for that anymore do to the fact yes it is addictive and also its easy to overdose on. Its also a bad way to get off of other narcotics because say Hydrocodone for instance lasts around 7-8 days in your body whereas Methadone can last 30 days making the time it takes to get off of it much much longer than the initial drug you started on. People should remember that this is a drug that is about 4x stronger than morphine about the same as Dilaudid.
The doctor's/clinic's should by law tell everyone this!
If the methadone was only one month to detox it was easy to quit..methadone whitdraws last for months or years depend how long you are using it ,i am on methadone for 19 years so i know what i say n i use subuxone for 2 years n its the same shit to detox same whitdraws of methadone...
Less euphoria does NOT equal less addictive.
It is the gold star treatment for Heroin and other opiate addictions. Much better success then 12 step programs with ridiculous rates of recidivism.
Yea it does, there is no addiction without euphoria. If drugs made U feel like shit nobody would do them 🤣
@@veritasinvicta8128 gettib on methadone is not the same dude... You just replace a drug witj another. Trust me i have been on methadone and suboxone and it just as bad. How ever gettin it for free was Nice, but doesnt help. However i hate the 12 step jesus program too
@@nicolaisb2 you're wrong.. taking methadone/suboxone prescribed by dr. Daily and going to work and focusing on life is a lot different then boosting,.lying and conning
for $
@@AJBuddha that’s the truth.
Hell no! Big mistake! Only good thing is u dont have to find drugs in the street! Methadone is extremely hard to get off of! It takes 6months to a yr for ur body to go back to normal when quitting methadone. Not to mention the depression! The depression is the worst! These doctors and nurses dont know cause they have never been on methadone!
Hey I have a question
Have you been on methadone ? Or are you on methadone now ?
You nail it sweetie, thats nothing but the true.
@@kojoano ask ,pregunta i can help you i am on methadone for 19 years ,if you never used methadone don't do it ok.
What pharmaceutical company is paying you doctors to cherry-pick your data and report such erroneous findings as these? And when will you learn your lessons regarding the societal ramifications of your greed-driven pseudo-scientific methods?
ALL OF THEM
They also pay doctors /free time shares /gifts to promote /push/prescribe their latest DRUG
I'm against big pharma and the banking cabal that runs the world but Methadone has helped people, find a better subject, like these nonsensical Covid restrictions being forced on us.
My mother is addicted to methadone don’t tell me it’s not addictive....
It definitely is addictive 100%
This is so wrong .... I started taking methadone to cure my herione addiction bt now I'm addicted to methadone n trust me methadone is worst then herione when it comes to addiction
methadone is way more addictive than heroin. anyone who says otherwise is just ignorant to the fact or paid to tell you its not.
Terry
I'm a truther, I know we were lied to about 9-11 and so many other things. You're wrong, Methadone takes longer to withdraw from but it isn't more addictive, one doesn't even feel euphoria from Methadone after a week, not the case with Heroin.
True detox from methedone is so painfull real horror......heroïne fentanyl detox is a.walk in the park compared to methodone detox
Its not more addictive. You are just referring to the different onset and length of withdrawl. It works all day on a single dose, where heroin is only 8 hrs. Methadone is controlled and can be medically managed. Too bad clinics dont want u to leave or it would be perceived differently
Thats nonsense...
Methadone doesn’t give that euphoria however its very addictive
Ask any heroin addict how hard methadone was hard to stop using compared to heroin
Way easier. Assuming you taper very slowly. I can't imagine going CT off the stuff though, that would be horrendous.
Just try taking methadone for 20 years then getting off of it. In 1980 I had a very bad accident I would have died from extreme pain but the doctors knew that a basically gave me all of the morphine I asked for and even other pain medications spent two months healing when I left the hospital I got enough pain medication for a month but took it in a week after that I went 20 years without any pain medication but in 2000 I started having extreme pain now I take methadone and do ok. Some days 30 mg and some 100 mg. But try to take less than 50 mg . Getting high isn’t my goal and taking to much cause me to sleep to much.
I was a fentanyl and heroin addict
Smoking fentanyl everyday. And thought the fentanyl kick was by far the worst kick I’ve ever experience, it made the heroin kick feel like nothing. But every single person I’ve ever talked to said that the methadon kick was by far the worst kick ever because it can last for months, and I’ve only met 1-2 people who have kicked methdone. Everyone else has been stuck on it for years and years, and having to go to the clinic everyday just to get your dose was horrible
Thats true ,i am on methadone for 19 years n this its by far the worst drug to detox, cus the whitdraws last for ever n more intense..
I know man, I was a heroin adict for22years and now iam on methadone 100mg for 2 years
You don't just stop takin it you gotta make the choice it's a long term treatment saved my life literally
It's not horrible at all don't get high stop the dope and you will get you take homes it's far from horrible it's so amazing it will bring peace back into you life I guarantee it
Dang best just get 4 days worth off the street and stop then go to a clinic for years
This whole comment section should quit their day job and become Dr's...Never seen so much misinfo in my life...
It's called reality and doctors should be held accountable.
These people must own a clinic.
Was thinking the same thing. It's a terrific business to get into. Methadone is dirt cheap and they charge insurances out the ass for it and just rake it in.
Anyone who has been on methadone for awhile will tell u the cold turkey is on a completely different level hell than heroin
I’m on 70mils of Methadone per day. NO there is no ‘high’ at all. Non whatsoever. I maintain an ordinary life on it and can make improvements in my health and fitness whilst eating normal on it too.
People most certainly do not take Methadone to get ‘high’ that’s just insane to believe.
Actually if you inject methadone it will get you very high sorry but that’s a fact
The only way to get high on methadone is to supplement it with other dangerous medicines and that is more of an anesthesiological experience . Double dosing will not even get you, or at least me, high.
Methadone crashes your hormones... Most people have no access or knowledge that they need trt while on it .
I totally disagree. I feel the euphoria from Methadone everyday. I do agree that it is less than other opioids but it is definitely there.
my question is for chronic pain does it work? my aunt has stage 4 cancer and says its working for her. shes not chasing a high or a so called buzz. truth is shes on the way out and swears its helped her far more than morphine . Id like to hear peoples response on this ? gonna miss her but shes atleast comfortable.
All of our bodies react differently to different medications, we can talk about what people experience in general , but the truth is methadone seems to be better for your aunt than morphine. I would trust her word.
But to answer you question, methadone is often given to patients like your aunt because of the long half life of methadone. It doesn’t need to be administered as frequently as morphine and lasts longer than morphine. Additionally methadone is given to chronic pain patients sometimes if other pain medications (morphine) have not been effective.
I’ll be praying for both of you, and wish you the best of luck .
What language is he speaking? There should be some
Hearing impaired captions on the bottom.
Methadone is not the answer to an alternative to opioids. First Methadone is meant for short term to get off of heroin, oxycodone etc. Now Methadone is abused just the same. In high doses methadone does cause euphoria. Longer on methadone, harder it is, longer the withdrawl. Second, Methadone if taken properly does not help with pain that much. It does in a tiny way but no. Euphoria doesnt cause addiction, high amounts of dopamine release from any opioid will cause addiction, brain stops producing the natural chemical and you withdrawal and puke and sh$! on yourself curled up in pain. Lastly Methadone deteriorates your body as it stays in your spine, bones, muscles etc. So No Methadone is furthest from a safe alternative. One purpose. Get on a low enough dose not to be sick and ween off comfortable as quick as you can.
This didn’t even discuss methadone as a treatment for pain (only for addiction and restless leg syndrome) and I assume the dosage would be different and therefore this study wouldn’t necessarily be applicable to it in its guise as an analgesic. In addition, I suspect many addicts are not using opiates to get high, but rather to get “well,” so I don’t know if this study really shows anything about the safety of methadone as compared to other opiates.
In fact, if the purpose is indeed to get high, I would suspect that methadone would be more dangerous as users would potentially use higher doses of methadone in the attempt to achieve that effect. I have seen other studies which report that higher doses of methadone do induce a state of euphoria.
Finally, everything I’ve read and all of the documentaries I’ve watched say that methadone is by far the hardest opiate to get off of. The suggestion that it’s a non-addictive option is patently ridiculous and this video is irresponsible and dangerous.
The dosage is usually lower for pain management but yes, Methadone is a wonderful pain suppressent.
Brenda, there's a difference between addiction and dependence that you're missing here, and understanding this makes all the difference in the world. Yes, one becomes dependent on methadone. It is an opioid agonist, meaning it fits the same receptor on a nerve cell as morphine, diamorphine, oxycodone, or any other opioid agonist. However, methadone has pharmacological properties that are different from the other opioids. The important one here is that it does not cross into the brain as quickly as diamorphine, etc. and therefore does not stimulate the reward center within the mid-brain which creates the effect that we call euphoria. This is what the docs here meant when they say methadone does not "reward" the user. A methadone user is dependent on methadone and high-dose users will most likely need the medication for the rest of their life. But people can function and lead a normal life when using methadone, it is a safe when used by a trained physician, and it doesn't stimulate the reward center causing addiction and the self-destructive behaviors that come with it like risk acceptance, drug seeking, chasing the high (dose escalation,) cravings, and all the rest. Also, and this is important for many, methadone is an excellent pain medication, especially for those with chronic neuropathic pain.
It is more dangerous and way more addictive than heroin! Also the withdrawals are way worse and last a hell of a lot longer!
I agree with you ! Let me tell you something about 3 years ago I started using opiates and it was the worst decision in my life but when I went to a clinic I thought everything was going to be so much better and let me tell you this methadone we call it LIQUID HANDCUFFS is sad all the stories you hear from people in the clinic
I’m on 70mils a day and get no euphoria or ‘high’. They give you about 5mils for pain. There is no way in the world that I felt anything off 5mils even when not an addict. But yes 5 mils would definitely help with pain that’s for sure.
This doctor speaks with a huge accent; very difficult to understand.
This is great... the key here is people should be on THERAPEUTIC doses... ie dose high enough to keep withdrawals at bay, yet not high enough to cause any euphoria, or “reward”. Again they are not stating this to be fact, they are doing research and stating the findings, and potential for future useful finding that can help, and save, many lives! Great information. People need to really try to understand what’s being said here..
No matter the dose, eventually tolerance catches up and the euphoria dissapears, take it from someone currently on 250mg and was as high as 310 mg.
@@veritasinvicta8128 yes!!! I wish more thought like u ...u nailed it, common sense. Read my comments, my story above , response.
No NO NO NO NO NO this is wrong i used methodone 8 years ago for chronic pain and stopped 5 years ago when they stopped working i still withdraw today and i have not used for years. the long term damage that it does is terrible. There days on bad days i use a point of herion without issue as well as my morphine. All perfectly safley and with the blessing of my Drs.
You have a doctor that is okay with you using an illegal, unregulated narcotic that may contain any number of dangerous additives and that doesn’t have a standardized or consistent number of milligrams? And in conjunction with morphine? I don’t see how a doctor that does that could keep their license.
I’m not saying I want you to be in pain. I’m looking into alternatives due to the fact that my pain medications are no longer working, and I have a huge amount of sympathy for you, but I’m worried about you since you’re using heroin unless it is medical grade, and it doesn’t sound like it is.
edit: I also want to say I appreciate what you said about methadone as that’s one of the things I’ve been researching for pain relief, and I’m really sorry you still have withdrawal effects from it - that sounds hellish and I guess I need to cross methadone off my list.
I was off Methadone for 100 days once and I felt like I had cancer, everything hurt. Methadone masks pain you don't even realize exists.
@@DocBree13 listen heroin isn't a bad drug and there's nothing wrong with it. I don't believe in a "bad drug" reguardless of legalities. Whats dangerous is it being illegal, ie cut with adultrants such as fentanyl and the desperate measures people have to take. Its not just about getting high, but if thats your thing then cool, no one should fault you for it. Alot of people use it to self medicate and treat pain etc. Emotional or physical. It's just the stigma that's associated with it from all the judgemental assholes over the years. You can die from drinking water if you over do it. The dose makes the poison. We have to stop acting like drugs are inherently good or bad, they're just molecules. They're tools, they can be a godsend or a curse. You the individual decides which one it is. No drug should be illegal. It's never going to stop their use and it does way more harm than good keeping them illegal and creating a black market. Think about the tax money we could use if we legalized all substances and made it to where every user knew they were getting a pure and clean product. And we could use the taxes to better society and fund programs to help people stop using if they so choose .
It could be so much better than it is now. It's been done in other parts of the world and the results look promising. Hopefully one day we'll come to our senses regarding these things and stop thinking we can control what our fellow brothers and sisters put in their bodies. It's their decision at the end of the day, not ours. The sovereignty over one's own body is a God given right. Governments be damned.
Human beings have used these things for millennia and they're not about to stop anytime soon. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's in our nature.
Methadone isn't the answer, it doesn't do anything that weining off the opioids does.
ihate methadone ,im stuck on it i dont feel myself i dont do anything like play or lisen to music anymore i dont even care about getting a girlfriend anf i havnt cared for few years now and im only in my late 20 s
Im currently on methadone too! Biggest mistake ever. All i want to do is sleep. Sex used to suck cause i had a hard time climaxing! Lower the dose u are taking. If u get take homes take a lower dose! I haven't met one person that came off of methadone. The lower the doses the more u will feel normal! Goodluck!
I used to listen to music and dance all the time. Im just sleepy all the time! Need rehab for the rehab!
Wean off or use Kratom
To each their own. Im on methadone and I hope never have to come off. On a lower dose and just every aspect of my life has improved.
Lower your dosage, eat right, exercise
I agree than methadone has less mental attachments but physically it's very difficult to quit it. and as soon as one quits methadone, other drug cravings that one used methadone to quit, showup again very strongly
I would argue that methadone is most addictive, if you stop taking it you suffer unbearable abstinence symptoms for months while with classic opioids like heroin you are abstinence symptom free after a couple of weeks.Methadone is nasty.Only good thing is that you have to dose once per day.
A BIG NO, a used to think the old methadone worked but this new physeptone they switched us all to in UK is useless, i feel worse on physeptone than a did having withdrawals for heroin
The NIH is cappin so hard. I’m coming off methadone right now. Three times as long as a heroin withdrawal. Day 18.
How you doing a year later,do you relapse ?
Yes how did this turn out?
Im dopesick af omw to get Nethadone then watch this video
I have to say,I use methadone for pain management. I have taken all types of opiates for pain. But,methadone was what I needed. I was ex
I found heroin easier too come off, than methadone, an ugly horrific withdrawl
As someone who has been on methadone for 20 plus years, and was on heroin along with other opiates before that, quiting heroin was comparatively easy, staying off heroin was hard. Methadone is good for staying off other opioids, but it is very hard to come off. Ask anyone who has tapered and or just kicked, the withdrawal last longer and is more intense.
Ho High, But it still just as physically dependent
Oh God I should have realised a government video
Why they don’t make it more accessible
No
Mwthadone causes osteoporosis and disables the spinal fluid. Thats exactly why you see users look so skinny and frail. Its a silent killer also the mood swings im no doctor but i live in the hood, i talk to the people. And i type this with great understanding and respect for the people.