After we played Ipswich yesterday I have accepted now that we are not winning the league or any trophy this season.The battle for us now is to finish in the top four
If you think the team that shat the bed against Palace but managed to win 1-0 should win the title over a team that dominated Ipswich and couldn’t attack for nuts yet also won 1-0, then you need to reevaluate your ability to draw conclusions.
Spuds just hand over 6 points with glee to whichever team is in a position to stop Arsenal win the Title. Their approach in the games against Chelsea and Liverpool this season is clear proof of that so was against City last Season.
The bewildered panic among the fans of the 'big boys' now they've suddenly realised their whole season has crumbled is absolutely beautiful. Your teams aren't suddenly rubbish, lads. They're suddenly the same as everyone else. 🤣🤣🤣
It would be Arsenal's fault if they dont win the league this year. People talking but people also forget Arsenal playing with 10men for 3 games in the beginning of the season. Those points drops early is what may cost Arsenal. Especially with Liverpool being so consistent and also with Haaland cursing City with his "Stay humble!" comment he said to Arteta.
Howard Webb introduces new rules each season, and Arsenal is the test subject. After referee inconsistencies, the PGMOL slowly phases out those same rules.
Most Arsenal fans know Saka injury has made the league impossible for them to win. Arteta ridiculous summer transfer, where he never signed any attackers have cost them. Plus, Liverpool attackers are all deadly, something Arsenal players lack.
We’re not over reliant on Salah. Other players score. We all saw how Thierry Su’s your club out. When in doubt give it to Saka and now he’s out injured
So what about when Liverpool and city’s old players but still there best players leave at the end of the season and Arsenal still have all there best players yet to hit there peak
@@bradleyallgrove2863salah doesnt want to leave and is more likely to stay. Most of your current crop arent gonna get much better if they do. Martinelli/havertz/jesus are at their ceilings now. Sakas injury will derail him for atleast a bit of next season (not that hes gonna get much better anyways). Your squad is good but you dont have that extra world class player to get you over the line. No salah/kdb.
@IA-qs9mi lol how can you say martinelli is at hes peak at 23 years old and saka has got better every season so who are you to say these players won’t get any better ? And im going from what Salah has said he’s probably going to leave considering Liverpool haven’t offered him a contract you also missed out odegard Saliba and rice 3 of arsenals best players who will get considerably better with the right coaching staff/ development
@@bradleyallgrove2863 nope. Saka wont get better every season like its fifa potential lol. Not by anything significant. You rarely if ever see a player do that in the prem. its a physical fatiguing league. Playing week in week out doesnt give room to get better. Players like saka salah haaland etc who start every game will have their best moments earlier on in the season. Theres not much room to get better drastically as an attacker. Not when youve already found your level. Output wise, saka hasnt shown much if any signs that hes gonna make a jump to typical salah levels. And with the injury and artetas set up, hes not in a system that will allow him to do that anyways. Martinelli has only gotten worse and worse. Its not gonna suddenly click and he becomes world class. His level is average. Rn hes below average but his ceiling isnt high. Sure rice saliba and odegaard can get a bit better, but nothing drastic will happen until u fix that forward line. U need 2 players to help saka. Then everyone else will start to improve on the eye.
Saka can’t do skill moves, can’t tiki taka pass, too direct (not possession loving enough), take shots too early from far away or tight angle rather than creating chances to walk the ball into the net because he doesn’t have the Brazilian skills to dribble or the Spanish technicality to play short combination passes within tight spaces. Palmer, Foden, BernardoSilva, DavidSilva, Iniesta, Yamal, offer tiki taka silky/tekky type of combination passing quality when they are playing out wide, so they can help the team to open up the low blocks. Ronaldinho, Neymar, Mahrez, Sane, Hleb, Nasri, Sanchez offer skill moves quality to dribble past defensive blocks to open up the defence. Eze and Kudus can do a bit of both. Saka offers neither of those qualities. He is not entertaining to watch.
Same Liverpool that has opportunities to win the league last season 😂😂😂 when season remains 2 game i will choose my winner but for now let everybody keep fighting,if Arsenal don't win the league nothing will happen my brother we go still watch Arsenal match is my choice not urs 😂😂😂😂
Stop living in the past. Live in the present. Liverpool have slot, not klopp. Liverpool play controlled football, not 100miles per hour anymore. Last season city was unstoppable, this season almost 20points behind Liverpool. Just because you challenged the past 2 seasons does not guarantee that you’ll challenge this season. You lot continue to talk about last season, stop dreaming and focus on the present
@ No Liverpool supporting is celebrating anything. There are 20 matches to go. We take it game by game. We are just tied of you Arsenal supporters every single time saying last season this, last season that. This is not last season. Focus on this season and forget about last season. Now is what matters. Last season Man City won, this season they are collapsing. You can’t compare last season to this season. Here and now is the most important. Just because a team did well last season does not mean it will automatically happen again this season. Take it game by game
It was over after the 0/10 window signing an Italian fashion runway model, a d-Tec Mikel Arteta, and Raheem Shillings. We’re winning nada, yet again. And the artetasexuals will be eating fish fry and humble pie next summer, also yet again
@ who’s trying to be funny???? When will you Artetasexuals jump off the hamster wheel and own up that you’ve been a gullible naive fool bent over the last five years by an inept loser manager and ownership??
Doesn’t matter who these 2 support they are saying what everyone else can see. Liverpool are by far the best team, Arsenal have progressed over the last few seasons but have plateaued off. Chelsea are a work in progress, City are in decline and United need to hit the reset button. Don’t like Liverpool but they will win the league because no other team is in a position to challenge.
Dont forgot the game in hand. I know they may not win that game however they have only lost 1 game all season so odds are they will beat everton in that game in hand. 9 points is a lot
You guys are crazy... If any team based on recent history has an expectation to win the league when City drop the ball it's LIVERPOOL, NOT ARSENAL!!! We're the only ones who have one it and push them the furthest and hardest!!! Behave yourselves 🤬
Arsenal has one of the lowest zone 14 access among all PL teams. They don’t overload the centre. That’s why they can’t penetrate low blocks. The Saka injury could allow Arsenal to try having more central access. Saka is overrated. His injury would allow the team to spread the goals more evenly. If you get rid of Aubayemang or Haaland. And you replace them with Firmino or Sanchez. Your team would score a lot more in total. The goals would spread more evenly because you don’t rely on one finisher to finish your few poor chances anymore. You now create lots of high quality chances. So high in quality that anyone can score easily.
@@mr.perceval6811 You should never judge a player just from his G/A. A goal hanger who can score 50 goals a season is rubsh if he is the reason his team can only score 70 in total because of his poor touches, passing, dribbling. A false 9 who can score 15 goals a season is world class if he is the reason his team can score 120 goals in total because of his great touches, passing, dribbling. What matters is to maximise the TOTAL number of goals your TEAM can score. A Ronaldinho with zero goals would still be so much better than a Walcott with 30 goals. You can do skill moves to dribble or tiki taka pass your way through an entire team including the keeper, and when you are 1 cm away from the goal, you pass to your league two level teammate, and your teammate pass to another league two level teammate and score. And if you do it 10 times a match, your team would score 380 goals a season because of you. You would get zero G/A. Now who is world class? You or the two 380 G/A teammates? You should never judge a player just by his stats. You have to actually watch and analyse the football.
Y’all are the most biased set of presenters on this show…nothing y’all said about arsenal in comparison to Liverpool makes any sense. Arsenal were hit with injuries which cost us some point, can’t say the same about Liverpool.
Do these people have the memory or IQ of a mosquito? This is the list of PL table toppers at Christmas last 4 seasons (all of which City won). 2020 Xmas Leader - Liverpool Lead over City at Xmas 8pts 2021 Xmas Leader - Man City Won PL 2022 Xmas Leader - Arsenal Lead over City at Xmas 5pts 2023 Xmas Leader - Arsenal Lead over City at Xmas 6pts Liverpool are fantastic and flying this year; best team in PL by far. Liverpool were also flying by Dec 2020, and Arsenal were cruising last 2 years. Arsenal were 72 pts from 29 games, which is a better pace than Liverpool this season. To think the season is over, is almost unprofessional analysis. But should we really expect any better from Talksport?
@ih the difference this year is man city are done!! It’s very different is it was city at the best chasing the leaders as them and klopps Liverpool could have won 13 games in a row No way arsenal or chelsea can win that many in a row
It’s not done until it is done. Until City did it in 2020, they had not done it before. Let’s not pretend that City have been doing this since 1992 or before. If Slot did this in 18 games with no experience in PL (and some luck from schedule and injuries), it’s definitely up for the grabs in the next 20.
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League titles are never won in December & there's alot of football matches still to play
Relegation can more or less can be settled through .
If you think that this team, which played Ipswich yesterday has any chance of winning a major title then you are living in cuckoo land.
A lot of matches still to play without Saka, that's kinda the point mate 😂
After we played Ipswich yesterday I have accepted now that we are not winning the league or any trophy this season.The battle for us now is to finish in the top four
If you think the team that shat the bed against Palace but managed to win 1-0 should win the title over a team that dominated Ipswich and couldn’t attack for nuts yet also won 1-0, then you need to reevaluate your ability to draw conclusions.
Majestick ....got a great face for radio
Stop it bro.
That's funny cos all Darren's teams played better when he was injured.
😂😂😂
The guy on the right reminds me of a big toad. 😊
Spuds just hand over 6 points with glee to whichever team is in a position to stop Arsenal win the Title. Their approach in the games against Chelsea and Liverpool this season is clear proof of that so was against City last Season.
They’ve got to get some joy somewhere
Nothing funnier than Arsenal hoping Spuds help them to win the title 😂
How did they do against you? Remember they can beat anyone
All these supposed pundits declaring the title race over in December LOL..
Check the odds mate then give your head a wobble then let me know who’s gona win
Congratulations to Liverpool in advanced on becoming premier league champions 24/25 =🏆
The bewildered panic among the fans of the 'big boys' now they've suddenly realised their whole season has crumbled is absolutely beautiful.
Your teams aren't suddenly rubbish, lads. They're suddenly the same as everyone else. 🤣🤣🤣
It would be Arsenal's fault if they dont win the league this year. People talking but people also forget Arsenal playing with 10men for 3 games in the beginning of the season. Those points drops early is what may cost Arsenal. Especially with Liverpool being so consistent and also with Haaland cursing City with his "Stay humble!" comment he said to Arteta.
Howard Webb introduces new rules each season, and Arsenal is the test subject. After referee inconsistencies, the PGMOL slowly phases out those same rules.
Hahahaha go aback to sleep
Wether we have Saka or not its done
Were they challenging??
Most Arsenal fans know Saka injury has made the league impossible for them to win. Arteta ridiculous summer transfer, where he never signed any attackers have cost them. Plus, Liverpool attackers are all deadly, something Arsenal players lack.
Two spurs fans talking on arsenal 😂 ofcourse theyre gonna say its over, misery loves company
It was over before tbh. We look terrible and the squad is too small.
Unless they sign Dani Olmo or Kudus in January.....
So Olmo can join Saka in the hospital? And if he's so good why would Barcelona let him go after 6 months
@@nichobee
Olmo is world class.
You understand nothing about football.
@thierryhenry674 I know, that's why Barcelona aren't letting him go in January 😂
They can't register him @@nichobee
Read the news, they're forced to let him go @@nichobee
honestly this station is going to the dogs 🙄
Arsenal also bottled it when Leicester won the league. They are the most spursy team around.
Ambrose is a spuds fan,so he will say that wont he.,😢
Put kelly in Saka's position an let Tierny play left back sign a striker ffs
He’s right…our best player probably missing for the season..it’s done ✔️
So if Salah goes down injured and is sidelined for a long time is Liverpools title chase is over ????, you guys talk so much shyt😮😮😮
Come on, man
Stop wishing that another team's disgrace happens to save yours
Liverpool had salah out for 3 months last season they still top . At the end due too many injuries they got crumbled buy 8/9 points only .😅
Well they have replacements and arre already well ahead
We’re not over reliant on Salah. Other players score. We all saw how Thierry Su’s your club out. When in doubt give it to Saka and now he’s out injured
@eliezermvuezolo2531 that,s the thing, i,m not wishing anything, i just said those guys talk alot of sh,,,t
Ambrose serial winner. Not. two deluded Tottenham fans talking about bottling 😂😂😂😂
Lol putting thr 2 Spursy weirdos on to talk about Arsenal is the funniest Arsenal could go and buy 2 players in Jan and be just fine
What has he done different from spurs? Like really? Are you guys insane?
So what about when Liverpool and city’s old players but still there best players leave at the end of the season and Arsenal still have all there best players yet to hit there peak
And who told you they will leave? Stop dreaming
@ KDB plays half a season so if he leaves or not is up to him and city and Salah will leave for the money.. hardly dreaming it’s just logical 😂
@@bradleyallgrove2863salah doesnt want to leave and is more likely to stay. Most of your current crop arent gonna get much better if they do. Martinelli/havertz/jesus are at their ceilings now. Sakas injury will derail him for atleast a bit of next season (not that hes gonna get much better anyways). Your squad is good but you dont have that extra world class player to get you over the line. No salah/kdb.
@IA-qs9mi lol how can you say martinelli is at hes peak at 23 years old and saka has got better every season so who are you to say these players won’t get any better ? And im going from what Salah has said he’s probably going to leave considering Liverpool haven’t offered him a contract you also missed out odegard Saliba and rice 3 of arsenals best players who will get considerably better with the right coaching staff/ development
@@bradleyallgrove2863 nope. Saka wont get better every season like its fifa potential lol. Not by anything significant. You rarely if ever see a player do that in the prem. its a physical fatiguing league. Playing week in week out doesnt give room to get better. Players like saka salah haaland etc who start every game will have their best moments earlier on in the season. Theres not much room to get better drastically as an attacker. Not when youve already found your level. Output wise, saka hasnt shown much if any signs that hes gonna make a jump to typical salah levels. And with the injury and artetas set up, hes not in a system that will allow him to do that anyways.
Martinelli has only gotten worse and worse. Its not gonna suddenly click and he becomes world class. His level is average. Rn hes below average but his ceiling isnt high.
Sure rice saliba and odegaard can get a bit better, but nothing drastic will happen until u fix that forward line. U need 2 players to help saka. Then everyone else will start to improve on the eye.
It’s all over folks. Next season onwards, we’ll have only 18 matchweeks instead of 38, coz that’s enough to decide the title apparently. These jokers…
Who’s gona win it then mate?
Saka can’t do skill moves, can’t tiki taka pass, too direct (not possession loving enough), take shots too early from far away or tight angle rather than creating chances to walk the ball into the net because he doesn’t have the Brazilian skills to dribble or the Spanish technicality to play short combination passes within tight spaces.
Palmer, Foden, BernardoSilva, DavidSilva, Iniesta, Yamal, offer tiki taka silky/tekky type of combination passing quality when they are playing out wide, so they can help the team to open up the low blocks.
Ronaldinho, Neymar, Mahrez, Sane, Hleb, Nasri, Sanchez offer skill moves quality to dribble past defensive blocks to open up the defence.
Eze and Kudus can do a bit of both.
Saka offers neither of those qualities. He is not entertaining to watch.
Stop attention seeking. We all know you’re a spurs fan trolling!
@@SHEK110
I’m a Gooner. And I want my Hleb, Nasri, Arshavin, Gnabry, Sanchez back, wide players who are actually skillful.
Imagine foden ,stop smoking is not good for ur health 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@thierryhenry674 you’re not an arsenal fan i can tell you’re just a troll
Same Liverpool that has opportunities to win the league last season 😂😂😂 when season remains 2 game i will choose my winner but for now let everybody keep fighting,if Arsenal don't win the league nothing will happen my brother we go still watch Arsenal match is my choice not urs 😂😂😂😂
Stop living in the past. Live in the present. Liverpool have slot, not klopp. Liverpool play controlled football, not 100miles per hour anymore. Last season city was unstoppable, this season almost 20points behind Liverpool. Just because you challenged the past 2 seasons does not guarantee that you’ll challenge this season. You lot continue to talk about last season, stop dreaming and focus on the present
@bertrandtheApostle7343 is very clear that you read my comments backwards Read again wait till the end of season befor u start celebrating
@ No Liverpool supporting is celebrating anything. There are 20 matches to go. We take it game by game. We are just tied of you Arsenal supporters every single time saying last season this, last season that. This is not last season. Focus on this season and forget about last season. Now is what matters. Last season Man City won, this season they are collapsing. You can’t compare last season to this season. Here and now is the most important. Just because a team did well last season does not mean it will automatically happen again this season. Take it game by game
It was over after the 0/10 window signing an Italian fashion runway model, a d-Tec Mikel Arteta, and Raheem Shillings. We’re winning nada, yet again. And the artetasexuals will be eating fish fry and humble pie next summer, also yet again
So many poor attempts to be funny, failure
@ who’s trying to be funny???? When will you Artetasexuals jump off the hamster wheel and own up that you’ve been a gullible naive fool bent over the last five years by an inept loser manager and ownership??
Even if Arsenal don't win it, they will still be better than Chelsea, United, City and Forest next season.
Losing Saka makes Arsenal better at least now they can score pens
Keep on hatting
Doesn’t matter who these 2 support they are saying what everyone else can see. Liverpool are by far the best team, Arsenal have progressed over the last few seasons but have plateaued off. Chelsea are a work in progress, City are in decline and United need to hit the reset button. Don’t like Liverpool but they will win the league because no other team is in a position to challenge.
Liverpool - league winners,,,,,
Forest - Hold my Beer.......😀
The title is not over liverpool lose or draw a couple of games and the title is on again 6 point lead is nothing
😂😂😂😂
Dont forgot the game in hand. I know they may not win that game however they have only lost 1 game all season so odds are they will beat everton in that game in hand.
9 points is a lot
Hahaha talking like you didn't just play like dog poo against the worst team in the league your title chances will be over in the next two games
Haters
You guys are crazy... If any team based on recent history has an expectation to win the league when City drop the ball it's LIVERPOOL, NOT ARSENAL!!! We're the only ones who have one it and push them the furthest and hardest!!! Behave yourselves 🤬
Arsenal has one of the lowest zone 14 access among all PL teams. They don’t overload the centre. That’s why they can’t penetrate low blocks.
The Saka injury could allow Arsenal to try having more central access.
Saka is overrated. His injury would allow the team to spread the goals more evenly.
If you get rid of Aubayemang or Haaland. And you replace them with Firmino or Sanchez. Your team would score a lot more in total.
The goals would spread more evenly because you don’t rely on one finisher to finish your few poor chances anymore. You now create lots of high quality chances. So high in quality that anyone can score easily.
In the Prem last season Saka scored 16 and assisted 12 and, had similar numbers the season before. Please explain how that is "overrated"?
@@mr.perceval6811
You should never judge a player just from his G/A. A goal hanger who can score 50 goals a season is rubsh if he is the reason his team can only score 70 in total because of his poor touches, passing, dribbling.
A false 9 who can score 15 goals a season is world class if he is the reason his team can score 120 goals in total because of his great touches, passing, dribbling.
What matters is to maximise the TOTAL number of goals your TEAM can score. A Ronaldinho with zero goals would still be so much better than a Walcott with 30 goals.
You can do skill moves to dribble or tiki taka pass your way through an entire team including the keeper, and when you are 1 cm away from the goal, you pass to your league two level teammate, and your teammate pass to another league two level teammate and score. And if you do it 10 times a match, your team would score 380 goals a season because of you. You would get zero G/A. Now who is world class? You or the two 380 G/A teammates? You should never judge a player just by his stats. You have to actually watch and analyse the football.
Mate shut up
@@thierryhenry674 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@thierryhenry674 AFCTV right here folks hahahaha.
These clowns will just seat in the studio and be talking shite. "It's over, it's over"...
Have a cry, artetasexual
Y’all are the most biased set of presenters on this show…nothing y’all said about arsenal in comparison to Liverpool makes any sense. Arsenal were hit with injuries which cost us some point, can’t say the same about Liverpool.
Do these people have the memory or IQ of a mosquito? This is the list of PL table toppers at Christmas last 4 seasons (all of which City won).
2020 Xmas Leader - Liverpool
Lead over City at Xmas 8pts
2021 Xmas Leader - Man City
Won PL
2022 Xmas Leader - Arsenal
Lead over City at Xmas 5pts
2023 Xmas Leader - Arsenal
Lead over City at Xmas 6pts
Liverpool are fantastic and flying this year; best team in PL by far. Liverpool were also flying by Dec 2020, and Arsenal were cruising last 2 years. Arsenal were 72 pts from 29 games, which is a better pace than Liverpool this season.
To think the season is over, is almost unprofessional analysis. But should we really expect any better from Talksport?
@ih the difference this year is man city are done!! It’s very different is it was city at the best chasing the leaders as them and klopps Liverpool could have won 13 games in a row
No way arsenal or chelsea can win that many in a row
It’s not done until it is done. Until City did it in 2020, they had not done it before. Let’s not pretend that City have been doing this since 1992 or before. If Slot did this in 18 games with no experience in PL (and some luck from schedule and injuries), it’s definitely up for the grabs in the next 20.
So if saka hadn't been injured it wouldn't be over?... behave