AlexadoFeel it's not exactly consistent though like a soldier gun or something you have to a good support to being able to defend yourself from a tracer or genji, and zenyatta headshots don't get landed too much but I do see your point
AlexadoFeel but Zenyatta is a Support/DPS hybrid. Moira is supposed to be a main healer so it makes sense that her damage is pretty low. She already has amazing healing, a great evade ability, and can sustain herself pretty decent with her self heal
They kinda stated that moira’s fade is basically removing her from the game and coming back after a second which explains alot since you can pass through traps and barriers
Been watching a lot of videos looking for info on Moira, and I gotta say this is the best one I've seen. Very thorough, lots of useful info, but it moves quickly.
Her damage orb are really nice against chokes with multiple trap/bombs and syms turrets, u throw it in, goes through shield and clears the paths of sym turrets.
Yomammy ' symmetra turrets are already that easy to destroy they only have a single hp the same thing happens when a junkrat or pharah spam into a choke they explode
NajarinPrime except this orb has a much larger radius in which it can damage and bounces. You don't just spam a choke with junkrat or Phaedra and destroy them, either. Unless the symmetra has literally put the turrets on ground, which is often silly.
Everyone giving poor Ryan shit for accidentally calling Moira "Mercy" one time...and I'm just still bothered by the part where he says "DPS per second".
don't understand why she can fade out of grav but everyone other hero's escape abilities are disabled. Like if you can fade, it would make sense that you can recall out, but you can't. Should disable fade in the grav too.
nerfChris she kinda needs it cus she needs to do damage to recharge her healing. If she didnt it will be very difficult to recharge her healing especially at chokepoints. The trade off is she does chip damage. She does have really good survivability out of all the supports.
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can you guys check if you can change the command keys for when choosing which orb you fire after pressing the Biotic orb key? or if its tied with the primary fire so that if you invert the primary and secondary fire it also changes the command of the healing and atk orbs?
Govanni Etienne i would guess So, thing is I play on console and i like having the buttons assigned with the appropriate hand and since her primary fire is her left hand but it's the right trigger on console imma switch that but I'm hoping it also reflects when choosing which orb I wanna throw, left trigger for the healing and right for the damage, like her hands 😅
So from my experience the biotic orbs actually go through the walls, because i still get damage ticks after firing it at a wall. It's possible they lose their visuals after going through the wall.
So as genji, your not completely hopeless in a 1v1 with moira. If you're in a closed room, try to burst her quickly to get her to use healing orb. Then try your best to deflect the heal orb so you can heal any damage she does to you. Then it should be an easy kill.
Don't know if anyone is going to read this but it is also worth noting that the momentum from fade stepping onto a jump pad, such as the one on Oasis, carries you farther than your normal fade step. You can activate fade step right before hitting the jump pad and land on top of the tower in the middle of the point and be completely invisible while doing it. (So people might hear the jump pad and turn to investigate but you're actually behind them now.)
Her right click doesn't have any kind of ammo or cooldown, so it's probably best to hold right click when you're not healing or launching an orb. The second you get in range of an enemy you'll be able to do damage.
demarc True, cause she has infinite ammo, but, then again, doesn't attacking slow you (or most characters, in general) down? So, maybe not if you're trying to run away since she has low damage.
Maybe, I'm thinking maybe as a backline damage dealer as opposed to a DPS that can engage a fight. She would probably be good standing behind a Reinhardt
You forgot to mention that Moira's ultimate also heals herself. Her ultimate also does around 70 damage per second (instead of 22), and around 140 healing per second (instead of 115). Could you also test whether or not a nanoboosted Moira's right biotic grasp heals her for more per second (meaning that the damage dealt determines how much healing she receives), or if the healing she receives remains the same (meaning that healing she receives is static, regardless of damage done)? The right biotic grasp could also be tested on a roadhog that's taking a breather to see if take a breather and nanoboost affect her self healing proportionally in both directions (increased vs decreased healing). You mentioned that the orbs pass through barriers, but you didn't mention if their tethers pass through barriers. You could shoot a black orb past one side of Reinhardt with his shield towards the orb to see if a tether attaches. You could also have him drop the shield momentarily and put it back up to see if attached tethers are broken by shields activating that intersect the tether. Does coalescence go through Mei walls? Does coalescence heal Mei while in ice block? Can right biotic grasp catch a stealthed Sombra? Does Fade remove pulse bombs and sonic arrows that are attached to Moira? Does Fade remove debuffs (discord orb, anti-heal, etc.) just like wraith form? Thanks
Tested some of this stuff yesterday. Moira's health regeneration from right biotic grasp isn't affected by damage mitigation (tested with roadhog). The regeneration was constant, regardless if take a breather was being used or not. So, you can think of this health gained as more of a health regeneration during your attack (which still has to do damage to a hero), instead of a vampiric effect, where health gained is based on damage done. Damage orb tethers do not pass through barriers, and if a barrier is placed between the damage orb and its target, the tether will break. Coalescence doesn't go through Mei walls. Right biotic grasp doesn't catch sombra while she's in stealth. Fade removes all debuffs, pulse bombs, sonic arrows, etc, just like wraith form.
Alex Kritikos well, she is a support and the ult already has 150 healing per second so i think blizzard thought having a high dps for it would be a little op
Still, for an ult that heals less than Zen's and can be interrupted, the damage seems underwhelming. Though I guess making it stronger while going through shields could be troublesome.
With the orbs I think a bunch of people think that the damage orbs is bad but it is suppose to be used for 1v1s or finishing targets and the healing is mainly you used for only two people to get the best value(including yourself)
Seems like she's got just enough damage output to be a moderate threat to squishies, but her healing makes her a pretty damn good main healer like mercy. The resource management makes it a dynamic feeling support, having to find a balance between her left and right clicks, working out which orb to throw to make the most impact, and I might be wrong, but I feel like Lucio would make an absolutely amazing off healer combo with her. So far the only problem I've got with her is that the ultimate is gonna be really hard to use the full duration, but that seems intentional. I really like her! ^_^
With the orbs I learned a trick, when you have Left click or Right click active and hit E you throw out the respective orb. Great for burst healing/damage
I love Fade so much it is such a nice and satisfying ability. You can also fade out of a pulse Bomb. If Tracer sticks it on you, you can fade and just drop it! Looooove it!
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this but Moira hands are different depending on what that hand does because her left hand wich heals is very Symmatra like it is like she is saying “ It’s ok, I just want to help.” But her right hand that deals damage looks like she is trying to grab you so she can kill you.
I'm not sure if you mentioned this but it seems her heals also has a small regeneration effect after you've healed someone. I kinda figured that out while testing in quickplay games.
Colorless If you didn’t know, he said dps per second No one says that. It’s either damage per second or dps. If you say dps per second, you’re basically saying damage per second per every second.
The damage orb can't bounce off of meis wall because it technically HAD health like a player and not health like a shield to the damage gets absorbed by each individual pillar
Can you teleporter while airborne? Does can orisa's halt pull you while teleporting? Does teleport break a mercy heal beam? Does it cancel a zen orb? Are you still slowed if Mei does some damage and then you teleport?
Exactly. I, as a Zenyatta main, am being asked to pick Moira up for my squad as my other main. It will be interesting for me to coach them into grouping up more, as our main DPS guy loves himself some spicy Pharah plays. From what I heard, the healing orb is going to more than likely be the more prominent of the two as it does great healing. We'll see.
Ryan you really have to nail the pronunciation of Moira, come on man it's phonetic! M-o-i-r-a, you can do it!! Love the channel and the video, great stuff!
Mei’s wall doesn’t absorb it, if you listen you can hear the ticking noise of damage being done or the healing noise being done. It passes through, it isn’t absorbed.
you know what would be nice. If widow's ulti got buffed. They could make it like support vision where the enemy is highlighted red if at full health or at purple when the enemy is at critical health, that sort of thing.
About dodging Rein ult, make sure you don't dodge it the same direction it travels as you are actually fast enough to catch up with it. Got myself killed with this on my first game as her.
Ideas for interactions: Soldier 76: Look at what has become of you... Moira: Something better than you? Soldier 76: Worse . Reaper: You broke me . Moira: No Gabe, i evolved you. Moira: I can't understand how a primitive being like you could have such a mind, ape. Winston: Having a bigger skull helps! Mercy: You were my friend Moira! Why did you betray us like this?! Moira: You betrayed me first. Sombra: Looks like we are The only civilicized humans here. Moira: I know you are up to something. Sombra: Hmf! Moira: A true piece of art! Ziegler did this to you? Genji: You are a monster. Moira: And she is a hypocrite. Ana: A Ghost from The past, back to haunt me again I presum. Moira: I have better things to do than Deal with deadmen. Tracer: Winston told me ya were part of the team back there! Moira: A waste of time. Doomfist: Heh, guess you are joining The party huh? Moira: I would never lose The chance to see you shine. Moira: You look a bit more blue than usual, bad dream? Widowmaker: I keep getting these Strange dreams about Gerald... Moira: I Will fix that after this Mission. Moira: Perfection can only be achieved through evolution and evolution is conquered by conflict. Symmetra: Lack of proof Orisa: I never heard of you. Moira: OR-15 were never meant to talk. Orisa: Mean Moira: Your tecnology is intriguing... Zenyata: And your soul is confusing. Torbjörn: Woah, what happened to your eye?! Moira: This is awkward... Reinhardt: Another monster to slay! Moira: So that's what i am now? Bastion: Bee zop dip... Moira: I don't need Another sermon from an omnic... Junkrat: Hawt. Moira: You dare?! Junkrat: Nah. Pharah: You are under arrest! Moira: I think we can wait...
So I'm guessing that the orb not targeting the things like the turret or teleported is because they probably have some sort of story that it only goes for living things or something like that
Wow.. I get it.. She's like the alternate version of zenyatta.. They're both taskmasters, but zenyatta has a weak heal but surprisingly strong DPS.. Moira has weak damage, but surprisingly strong healing. And here I thought she was going to act as some sort've "Zenyatta +" and totally make him even MORE under-appreciated, when in reality, they're practically illegitimate siblings! Cool!
I think you're more impressed by Moira's right click range than you should - I find unless you have a few team mates distracting the enemy, if you're in that close you're going to die in seconds if not instantaneously. Moira needs to be closer to the action than say, soldier 76 so her tiny health pool is a lot bigger of an issue. Having said that she feels amazing if no bullets are flying her way.
I was playing on the PTR and I was able to pull a Moira off of the map using Orisa's Halt ability while the Moira was using her stealth dash thing haha. This seems as if it's not intended, as Moira is supposed to be completely invincible during the move, similar to Reaper's Wraith Form, if I understand correctly.
Is she supposed to be able to escape from graviton surge? Because other abilities like tracer's recall are disabled so it seems weird that they'd add an ability that can get out
the fact that Moira's damage can't kill someone by outdoing the Zenyatta healing is interesting, in terms of how Blizzard may or may even not change it, considering that Zenyatta's heal is a constant effect that requires no attention to be paid after the initial orb transference.
I think Moira indirectly buffs Ana and Sombra. For Ana, it's because Moira has a Mei-like spray, floating ball, and a Kamehamhea-like beam for healing. Ana's sleep dart can interrupt her ULT, and Biotic Grenade makes any healing redundant, especially since they are more spread-out instead of focused. For Sombra, it's because all her abilties can be stopped by a simple Hack, and she can't out-damage/heal against a Sombra. I don't think Junkrat's abilities or Torbjorn's turret are meant to get hit by Moira's orb, because she is meant to be in the thick of things, which is why she also can't heal by damaging enemies with the orb. So, no bugs there.
winston does fuck all against moira. she has life steal, and healing ability and a movement ability to get out after he has commited his movement. there is no way in hell he's a counter to moira
SmolKing not on his own, but his damage pretty much negates her life steal so if other members of his team focus her she’ll be easily killed, especially if she doesn’t have fade or the Winston hasn’t jumped yet.
A good Winston will save his jump for when she tries to run just like you do with a Genji. They do similar damage, Winston has way more HP and a bubble to block some her beams from both right click and orbs. That is an easy kill for Winston no matter how you look at it. Moira can prolong the inevitable if she plays perfectly, and maybe get away if Winston plays badly.
a good moira wont let winston engage on her without commiting his jump. winston does 60 dps. moira life steal does 30 self hps, and her orb does 60 hps. if winston doesn't jump in, there are still things moira can do to survive. like wait for the bubble to be commited and then wraith away.
SmolKing Exactly the best she can do is buy time to be saved, the only other options are run or die. Either way Winston wins because you're not healing anyone. Winston doesn't have to use anything but left click to kill you before you kill him, even with her life steal, so why would he waste his cooldowns? She has to do something just to survive. If you use fade you're as good as dead, and if you use an orb chances are his barrier will still allow him to out sustain you. It's not a good match up for her in anyway. If he mess up the shield dance or miss manages his reload you have a chance. But lets be honest, there is a much higher chance her orb will bounce off into the sunset and she is going to get rocket punched in the face by an 800 pound gorilla. At least that's how it seems right now on the PTR.
you're missing the point. of all the healers in the game, moira has the most self healing(mercy/zen cant heal in combat, ana is the only one that gets close) + a movement ability. winston has to already be close just to damage her at all. and the time to kill is absolutely insane with just his damage while moira is life stealing it takes 8 seconds just about. and that is not taking into account the bubble which dooes 60 hps, lasts for 10 sec and can be angled in such a way that it *doesn't* fly into the sunset. in a 1v1 winston will never kill moira, if just because she has a movement ability a 20 meters auto aiming range. in a team, she is the most survivable healer in the game, meaning that she takes *alot* of commitment to kill. if you want to test it out, im all for it. SmolKing#2418
The only annoying thing when you play as Moira is an enemy Torbjörn. She can't destroy the turret. And that's quite an issue, as it means you need to rely on someone else to assist you there.
You know she's getting a vampire skin next Halloween.
YESSS
Let's be real, she's getting a Blackwatch skin in the Upcoming Uprising event.
no she's getting a skin based of of Hel the goddess of death
Gladius ExE did you just watch thor?
No she is getting a Hanzo skin
That ultimate dps feels low but that healing is MASSIVE
「Act Ecchi Ni-San」 that's probably the point, if a support out damaged a DPS that would be a problem
AlexadoFeel it's not exactly consistent though like a soldier gun or something you have to a good support to being able to defend yourself from a tracer or genji, and zenyatta headshots don't get landed too much but I do see your point
AlexadoFeel but Zenyatta is a Support/DPS hybrid. Moira is supposed to be a main healer so it makes sense that her damage is pretty low. She already has amazing healing, a great evade ability, and can sustain herself pretty decent with her self heal
True, but it does make sense that her ult does more heals than damage because she is a support. XD
true but its just awful
2:16
That's definitely Mercy.
Will just have to make sure they are in between you and your team
It's Mercy 3.0 - where she's headed
Zeriam lmao
They kinda stated that moira’s fade is basically removing her from the game and coming back after a second which explains alot since you can pass through traps and barriers
Everyone has been obsessing over Moira. That's fine, I am too.
Been watching a lot of videos looking for info on Moira, and I gotta say this is the best one I've seen. Very thorough, lots of useful info, but it moves quickly.
I have subscribed to this channel, purely because of how much I like this video.
All I dream about is a custom game with 10 moiras and 2 genjis just deflecting the orbs onto each other all the time
SpiralArcGFX he's not even the real mad soldier. The real one has 20k subs
It's you...!
Why do I see u one every overwatch channel
but the genjis would die
Mad Soldier fuck off u annoying shit
Thanks for all the hard work on this play testing. Very appreciated!
Her damage orb are really nice against chokes with multiple trap/bombs and syms turrets, u throw it in, goes through shield and clears the paths of sym turrets.
Well they will be, when they fix that interaction.
Shadoum hopefully not sym turrets. I hate her, but she'd be 100% worthless if her turrets were that easy to destroy
i played yesterday and the orb didnt damage her turrets , did they patch that today with the momentum glitch ?
Yomammy ' symmetra turrets are already that easy to destroy they only have a single hp the same thing happens when a junkrat or pharah spam into a choke they explode
NajarinPrime except this orb has a much larger radius in which it can damage and bounces. You don't just spam a choke with junkrat or Phaedra and destroy them, either. Unless the symmetra has literally put the turrets on ground, which is often silly.
Everyone giving poor Ryan shit for accidentally calling Moira "Mercy" one time...and I'm just still bothered by the part where he says "DPS per second".
don't understand why she can fade out of grav but everyone other hero's escape abilities are disabled. Like if you can fade, it would make sense that you can recall out, but you can't. Should disable fade in the grav too.
Writh form does allow reaper to leave grav
Deather Dreamer huh, didn't realise. That doesn't make sense to me. Why can some heroes escape and other can't?
nerfChris Tracers recall relies on time and shit so having that in essentially a mini black hole would fuck with the games physics.
Right now, Reaper's Wraith Form, Orisa's Fortify, and Moira's Fade are the only abilities that let you get out of a Grav.
Jack Copp hmm fair enough I guess
Thought this meant voice interactions...whoops
David Lippincott same 😥
David Lippincott same
David Lippincott same
David Lippincott lol me
Moira is seeming to be a pretty badass support. But she'll never take me away from my Zen-pai.
ive never even played zen and i aggre wit u
Lurking i play zen and Moira...I rotate between em a lot
trying to get this mercy... wait MERCY 2:12
when you cant pronounce the new hero's name so you say fuck it and just call her mercy lol
When mercy joins team talon
I KNOW RIGHT LOL
Pancake face he also said
Winstons sleep... lmao
3:54
2:13 yes “mercy”
Webber Tatsukawa I
Webber Tatsukawa yeah...
.........yup Thought I was the only one
Realizing Moira is a mad counter to Genji... Genji can't get close or he gon' die and Moira can just square up to him with her lock damage.
Or he can just wittle her down from affar then close in for a kill with a dash+ fan combo
Luigizilla Yeah she seems like a basic kill for anybody decent with genji, only thing is that crazy long range on her beam
nerfChris she kinda needs it cus she needs to do damage to recharge her healing. If she didnt it will be very difficult to recharge her healing especially at chokepoints. The trade off is she does chip damage. She does have really good survivability out of all the supports.
Paul Pogba i swear it seems like genji is countered by everybody
I was thinking the same treatment is going to go towards Pharah. She wouldnt be able to get in too close anymore
You forget that fade removing Discord or the effects of Biotic nade etc.
TheGhostAvatar no he mentioned that
Did he I️ didn’t hear that
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can you guys check if you can change the command keys for when choosing which orb you fire after pressing the Biotic orb key? or if its tied with the primary fire so that if you invert the primary and secondary fire it also changes the command of the healing and atk orbs?
Govanni Etienne i would guess So, thing is I play on console and i like having the buttons assigned with the appropriate hand and since her primary fire is her left hand but it's the right trigger on console imma switch that but I'm hoping it also reflects when choosing which orb I wanna throw, left trigger for the healing and right for the damage, like her hands 😅
Govanni Etienne perfect! Thank you
So from my experience the biotic orbs actually go through the walls, because i still get damage ticks after firing it at a wall. It's possible they lose their visuals after going through the wall.
The time it must take to make a video like this hasn't gone unnoticed. I (we) appreciate it.
So as genji, your not completely hopeless in a 1v1 with moira. If you're in a closed room, try to burst her quickly to get her to use healing orb. Then try your best to deflect the heal orb so you can heal any damage she does to you. Then it should be an easy kill.
Does Moira’s right click reveal a cloaked sombra?
I think it’s like a symmetra beam. Doesn’t lock on unless the Sombra gets too close, or is detected by widow vision, or sonic arrow
no, i've tried
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to make it!
Don't know if anyone is going to read this but it is also worth noting that the momentum from fade stepping onto a jump pad, such as the one on Oasis, carries you farther than your normal fade step. You can activate fade step right before hitting the jump pad and land on top of the tower in the middle of the point and be completely invisible while doing it. (So people might hear the jump pad and turn to investigate but you're actually behind them now.)
with moira's release genji is now an acceptable off-healer lol
Her right click doesn't have any kind of ammo or cooldown, so it's probably best to hold right click when you're not healing or launching an orb. The second you get in range of an enemy you'll be able to do damage.
demarc True, cause she has infinite ammo, but, then again, doesn't attacking slow you (or most characters, in general) down? So, maybe not if you're trying to run away since she has low damage.
Maybe, I'm thinking maybe as a backline damage dealer as opposed to a DPS that can engage a fight. She would probably be good standing behind a Reinhardt
4:54 *Holy crap that range....I'm gonna be in a bit of trouble :(*
Saint Milk Pharah is going to get fucked
Saint Milk well that’s what you get for using one of the biggest cheaters in the game..
Have you seen the range on that new Symmetra they made?
0:12 it’s okay. You’re saying it right now👍🏻
You forgot to mention that Moira's ultimate also heals herself.
Her ultimate also does around 70 damage per second (instead of 22), and around 140 healing per second (instead of 115).
Could you also test whether or not a nanoboosted Moira's right biotic grasp heals her for more per second (meaning that the damage dealt determines how much healing she receives), or if the healing she receives remains the same (meaning that healing she receives is static, regardless of damage done)? The right biotic grasp could also be tested on a roadhog that's taking a breather to see if take a breather and nanoboost affect her self healing proportionally in both directions (increased vs decreased healing).
You mentioned that the orbs pass through barriers, but you didn't mention if their tethers pass through barriers. You could shoot a black orb past one side of Reinhardt with his shield towards the orb to see if a tether attaches. You could also have him drop the shield momentarily and put it back up to see if attached tethers are broken by shields activating that intersect the tether.
Does coalescence go through Mei walls?
Does coalescence heal Mei while in ice block?
Can right biotic grasp catch a stealthed Sombra?
Does Fade remove pulse bombs and sonic arrows that are attached to Moira?
Does Fade remove debuffs (discord orb, anti-heal, etc.) just like wraith form?
Thanks
Tested some of this stuff yesterday.
Moira's health regeneration from right biotic grasp isn't affected by damage mitigation (tested with roadhog). The regeneration was constant, regardless if take a breather was being used or not. So, you can think of this health gained as more of a health regeneration during your attack (which still has to do damage to a hero), instead of a vampiric effect, where health gained is based on damage done.
Damage orb tethers do not pass through barriers, and if a barrier is placed between the damage orb and its target, the tether will break.
Coalescence doesn't go through Mei walls.
Right biotic grasp doesn't catch sombra while she's in stealth.
Fade removes all debuffs, pulse bombs, sonic arrows, etc, just like wraith form.
“Moira and Ana make a cute couple” don’t give them ideas...
the real question is will her orb ever kill sym turrets? that would be super useful especially attacking chokepoints
I'd say they will
Wait what? Her ult deals 22 dps? Did I hear that right?
No, it's 70 DPS. He was flubbing his numbers.
So its less than an uncharged zarya... nice (zarya is at 95 uncharged)
Alex Kritikos well, she is a support and the ult already has 150 healing per second so i think blizzard thought having a high dps for it would be a little op
True and it passes through shields and people... Also, is it 150 hps or 115?
Still, for an ult that heals less than Zen's and can be interrupted, the damage seems underwhelming. Though I guess making it stronger while going through shields could be troublesome.
Excellent vid; the amount of info here is AWESOME
With the orbs I think a bunch of people think that the damage orbs is bad but it is suppose to be used for 1v1s or finishing targets and the healing is mainly you used for only two people to get the best value(including yourself)
WTB 5v5 All Moira Game, would be so awesome! Great vid
I accidentally did something to her jump button. Now i can’t make her jump.
Seems like she's got just enough damage output to be a moderate threat to squishies, but her healing makes her a pretty damn good main healer like mercy. The resource management makes it a dynamic feeling support, having to find a balance between her left and right clicks, working out which orb to throw to make the most impact, and I might be wrong, but I feel like Lucio would make an absolutely amazing off healer combo with her.
So far the only problem I've got with her is that the ultimate is gonna be really hard to use the full duration, but that seems intentional. I really like her! ^_^
With the orbs I learned a trick, when you have Left click or Right click active and hit E you throw out the respective orb. Great for burst healing/damage
I love Fade so much it is such a nice and satisfying ability. You can also fade out of a pulse Bomb. If Tracer sticks it on you, you can fade and just drop it! Looooove it!
how come her right hand has longer nails than her left hand
raetro good point, i guess the “bad side” affects her nails to grow longer idk
Enrique Santana
*SYMBOLISM*
most useful video about Moira so far.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this but Moira hands are different depending on what that hand does because her left hand wich heals is very Symmatra like it is like she is saying “ It’s ok, I just want to help.” But her right hand that deals damage looks like she is trying to grab you so she can kill you.
I'm not sure if you mentioned this but it seems her heals also has a small regeneration effect after you've healed someone. I kinda figured that out while testing in quickplay games.
2:12 "as you can see the roadhog is blocking the mercy" MERCY surrrreee
Dps per second! Imagine if that were a thing. That could get out of control quick.
sym primary fire?
damage per second per second?
Damage per second squared
boi that is a thing
dps literally stands for damage per second
Colorless
If you didn’t know, he said dps per second
No one says that. It’s either damage per second or dps.
If you say dps per second, you’re basically saying damage per second per every second.
The damage orb can't bounce off of meis wall because it technically HAD health like a player and not health like a shield to the damage gets absorbed by each individual pillar
Can you teleporter while airborne? Does can orisa's halt pull you while teleporting? Does teleport break a mercy heal beam? Does it cancel a zen orb? Are you still slowed if Mei does some damage and then you teleport?
seems like a good healer. good orisa counter, good cheese comp counter, good pharah counter. nice!
So she'll be better like in death balls like Ana cause she has splash damage heals?
Exactly. I, as a Zenyatta main, am being asked to pick Moira up for my squad as my other main. It will be interesting for me to coach them into grouping up more, as our main DPS guy loves himself some spicy Pharah plays. From what I heard, the healing orb is going to more than likely be the more prominent of the two as it does great healing. We'll see.
if he can land on her while fade is on cool down AND drop a shield... yeah that's moira's ass. p sure she gets out damaged
The nanoboosted orb is quite interesting, that thing can tear up squishies in a couple seconds.
If I had a penny for everytime Ryan said give or take I’d give or take a lot of pennies.
LOL
Ryan you really have to nail the pronunciation of Moira, come on man it's phonetic! M-o-i-r-a, you can do it!! Love the channel and the video, great stuff!
Does moria's orb Target symmetra turrets?
Mei’s wall doesn’t absorb it, if you listen you can hear the ticking noise of damage being done or the healing noise being done. It passes through, it isn’t absorbed.
you know what would be nice. If widow's ulti got buffed. They could make it like support vision where the enemy is highlighted red if at full health or at purple when the enemy is at critical health, that sort of thing.
its not a bug that the orb ignores turrets, it wont damage traps, turrets , bombs , sentry turrets shield gens or teleporters, , thats intentional
Please help I can't play on PC anymore. "Login session has expired" idk how to fix. Has anyone faces similar issues?
No sorry.
Is it me or does her ultimate feel kind of underwhelming?
Think you accidentally left in some footage of your desktop at the end there! 11:39
You didn't mention the residual healing effect allies get after you stop spraying them.
4:32 Moira: genji mains favorite hero now
No matter if Ally or enemy
When damage boosted by nano, supercharger, or mercy, and when Zen has a discord orb on your target. Does Moira's attack self heal for more?
Why. Isnt graviton supposed to block any escape ability?
So fade shouldnt work
About dodging Rein ult, make sure you don't dodge it the same direction it travels as you are actually fast enough to catch up with it. Got myself killed with this on my first game as her.
They’ll change the fade out of grav right?
2:15 Doesn't look like mercy to me Ryan...
Ideas for interactions:
Soldier 76: Look at what has become of you...
Moira: Something better than you?
Soldier 76: Worse .
Reaper: You broke me .
Moira: No Gabe, i evolved you.
Moira: I can't understand how a primitive being like you could have such a mind, ape.
Winston: Having a bigger skull helps!
Mercy: You were my friend Moira! Why did you betray us like this?!
Moira: You betrayed me first.
Sombra: Looks like we are The only civilicized humans here.
Moira: I know you are up to something.
Sombra: Hmf!
Moira: A true piece of art! Ziegler did this to you?
Genji: You are a monster.
Moira: And she is a hypocrite.
Ana: A Ghost from The past, back to haunt me again I presum.
Moira: I have better things to do than Deal with deadmen.
Tracer: Winston told me ya were part of the team back there!
Moira: A waste of time.
Doomfist: Heh, guess you are joining The party huh?
Moira: I would never lose The chance to see you shine.
Moira: You look a bit more blue than usual, bad dream?
Widowmaker: I keep getting these Strange dreams about Gerald...
Moira: I Will fix that after this Mission.
Moira: Perfection can only be achieved through evolution and evolution is conquered by conflict.
Symmetra: Lack of proof
Orisa: I never heard of you.
Moira: OR-15 were never meant to talk.
Orisa: Mean
Moira: Your tecnology is intriguing...
Zenyata: And your soul is confusing.
Torbjörn: Woah, what happened to your eye?!
Moira: This is awkward...
Reinhardt: Another monster to slay!
Moira: So that's what i am now?
Bastion: Bee zop dip...
Moira: I don't need Another sermon from an omnic...
Junkrat: Hawt.
Moira: You dare?!
Junkrat: Nah.
Pharah: You are under arrest!
Moira: I think we can wait...
So I'm guessing that the orb not targeting the things like the turret or teleported is because they probably have some sort of story that it only goes for living things or something like that
What happens if you fade after getting stuck with a pulse bomb?
Good video. Cheers for that!
Genji: Stealing your healing. See you around, bitch!
Wow.. I get it.. She's like the alternate version of zenyatta.. They're both taskmasters, but zenyatta has a weak heal but surprisingly strong DPS.. Moira has weak damage, but surprisingly strong healing.
And here I thought she was going to act as some sort've "Zenyatta +" and totally make him even MORE under-appreciated, when in reality, they're practically illegitimate siblings! Cool!
What about ultimates? Which Ultimates can Coalescence keep you alive?
Does Mercy damage boost also make the orbs dissipate faster?
I’m curious about fade and pulse bomb. Would it unstick if you timed it right?
what happens when Tracer sticks the bomb to you and you shift away? will the bomb drop to the ground, or will it stick to you ?
probably the exact same thing that happens to reaper when he enters wraith form
I think you're more impressed by Moira's right click range than you should - I find unless you have a few team mates distracting the enemy, if you're in that close you're going to die in seconds if not instantaneously. Moira needs to be closer to the action than say, soldier 76 so her tiny health pool is a lot bigger of an issue. Having said that she feels amazing if no bullets are flying her way.
Mentioning “give or take” more than Moira himself
I'm pretty certain that Reaper also ignores Infa sight while in wraith mode. Not just Moira.
Question, on a no cooldowns game, what happens when you have an orb out and throw another?
The character isn’t out yet and I already feel like a pro. Thank you for this very informational video
Any other synergies that work particularly well?
it looked like the damage orb didn't slow down/latch onto the fortified orisa? is that true?
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Will using your right click on player made units (junkets mine or symm tele) refill the healing bar?
I was playing on the PTR and I was able to pull a Moira off of the map using Orisa's Halt ability while the Moira was using her stealth dash thing haha. This seems as if it's not intended, as Moira is supposed to be completely invincible during the move, similar to Reaper's Wraith Form, if I understand correctly.
Does being damage boosted increase the healing resource charge gained?
Wait, you gain health/regenerate your healing gauge even when you damage barriers?
Is she supposed to be able to escape from graviton surge? Because other abilities like tracer's recall are disabled so it seems weird that they'd add an ability that can get out
how fast do people die with her right click and a discord orb on the enemy ?
the fact that Moira's damage can't kill someone by outdoing the Zenyatta healing is interesting, in terms of how Blizzard may or may even not change it, considering that Zenyatta's heal is a constant effect that requires no attention to be paid after the initial orb transference.
I think Moira indirectly buffs Ana and Sombra.
For Ana, it's because Moira has a Mei-like spray, floating ball, and a Kamehamhea-like beam for healing. Ana's sleep dart can interrupt her ULT, and Biotic Grenade makes any healing redundant, especially since they are more spread-out instead of focused.
For Sombra, it's because all her abilties can be stopped by a simple Hack, and she can't out-damage/heal against a Sombra.
I don't think Junkrat's abilities or Torbjorn's turret are meant to get hit by Moira's orb, because she is meant to be in the thick of things, which is why she also can't heal by damaging enemies with the orb. So, no bugs there.
KidAnime20 well blizzard confirmed that the traps was a bug so I'd say that the turret ones are as well
I don't recall.
what happend when moiras dmg orb gets together with a teammate´s graviton ? does it stick in it ?
Does her right click and ult damage shield? And will the orb lock on to rein even though rein is holding up a shield and does the orb damage shield?
ty for your time, have a nice day.
So those "Moira rollouts" are gone now? I knew it was a bug and not part of her features.
4:06 Damage per second per second?
If Moira is damage boosted or nanoboosted, does she self heal faster and does her resource meter fill faster when she ults/uses damage beam?
winston does fuck all against moira. she has life steal, and healing ability and a movement ability to get out after he has commited his movement. there is no way in hell he's a counter to moira
SmolKing not on his own, but his damage pretty much negates her life steal so if other members of his team focus her she’ll be easily killed, especially if she doesn’t have fade or the Winston hasn’t jumped yet.
A good Winston will save his jump for when she tries to run just like you do with a Genji. They do similar damage, Winston has way more HP and a bubble to block some her beams from both right click and orbs. That is an easy kill for Winston no matter how you look at it. Moira can prolong the inevitable if she plays perfectly, and maybe get away if Winston plays badly.
a good moira wont let winston engage on her without commiting his jump. winston does 60 dps. moira life steal does 30 self hps, and her orb does 60 hps. if winston doesn't jump in, there are still things moira can do to survive. like wait for the bubble to be commited and then wraith away.
SmolKing Exactly the best she can do is buy time to be saved, the only other options are run or die. Either way Winston wins because you're not healing anyone. Winston doesn't have to use anything but left click to kill you before you kill him, even with her life steal, so why would he waste his cooldowns? She has to do something just to survive. If you use fade you're as good as dead, and if you use an orb chances are his barrier will still allow him to out sustain you. It's not a good match up for her in anyway. If he mess up the shield dance or miss manages his reload you have a chance. But lets be honest, there is a much higher chance her orb will bounce off into the sunset and she is going to get rocket punched in the face by an 800 pound gorilla. At least that's how it seems right now on the PTR.
you're missing the point. of all the healers in the game, moira has the most self healing(mercy/zen cant heal in combat, ana is the only one that gets close) + a movement ability. winston has to already be close just to damage her at all. and the time to kill is absolutely insane with just his damage while moira is life stealing it takes 8 seconds just about. and that is not taking into account the bubble which dooes 60 hps, lasts for 10 sec and can be angled in such a way that it *doesn't* fly into the sunset.
in a 1v1 winston will never kill moira, if just because she has a movement ability a 20 meters auto aiming range.
in a team, she is the most survivable healer in the game, meaning that she takes *alot* of commitment to kill.
if you want to test it out, im all for it. SmolKing#2418
The orb should still target a bubbled Zarya. That would be an important point of argument for counter picking. It would make Zarya a great counter.
The only annoying thing when you play as Moira is an enemy Torbjörn. She can't destroy the turret. And that's quite an issue, as it means you need to rely on someone else to assist you there.