Hak and IDLES both in heavy, heavy rotation in this house. Super grateful to the Spotify algorithm that sent you guys my way; even more grateful to Joe & Co and Hak for making killer sounds for every part of the day. All the best from the Dumpster Fire that is the US. 🤙
This format is fucking stellar and HUGE thanks to the fellow at the end, that is perhaps the wisest take on the situation today I've EVER heard. That man truly enlightened my perspective.
Another great vid that brought a smile to my otherwise stressful day. I got into Idles after my friends band supported you and sang your praises about how great you were on and off the stage
'Thanks Joseph for having me on the People's Soapbox to promote Black Lives Matter. I would give the timestamp for my 5 minute rant but that might tempt non IDLES fans to skip the show. Big love to Lindsay, Keira-Anee Photography, Balley TV and Al Brown of FLUFFER RECORDS (Missing those pit parties).' - John Clay Education, education, education: www.theblackcurriculum.com/ #rantbox
Hak made this episode hard to listen to. That mic he's got is of the most shit level that not only can I understand only half of what he's saying, but it hurts to listen to. And that sucks, because he seems cool and like he's got some interesting ideas. Hopefully future episodes can rein in on the audio quality, though I know they can only do so much with a guests equipment.
People are people. The thing about being a white, Western, (somewhat) cis male is: you can't even generalise that demographic, and you can't say they're all 'privileged'. I'll go right ahead and make myself an example, in total honesty. My father killed himself when I was nine years old, in the midst of a bitter divorce; every time Ì had to visit him, they had to drag me out of the car because of the stories my mother told me about him; later on, I found out these were all lies, and when I finally met his brother, my uncle, years later on, he said it was quite painful to see how much I resembled him. My mother remarried a military guy, who tried to give me a Spartan education by hitting me out of bed in the middle of the night, making me put my trainers on, and forcing me to run rounds around the block until I couldn't take anymore. During the Christmas school vacation, he used to lock me in my room with a bucket to shit in, and every now and again, a plate of food was given to me. By the time I was thirteen, my half-sister was born, and my mother was addicted to anti-depressants and could hardly get out of bed; my stepfather was either working at the army station, or drinking away his sorrows, so the care for this child fell pretty much solely on my shoulders. After my first suicide attempt, at age fourteen, they sent me to psychiatrists, and they told me I was traumatised, slightly autistic, and (worst of all) probably never able to confidently function in a social context on my own. I left home when I was sixteen. That was twenty-two years ago. I still miss my half-sister - but I had to go on, and I had to do it alone. This is just one story. I'm not going to list the ways I've tried to help people of all colours and kinds, and animals in need in the meantime; it's not a pissing contest. But I'm a white cis Western male. Now, tell me: Am I privileged?
i completely understand your point of view but as someone currently affected by severe depression and anxiety, caused by traumatising events, i still have more privilege than if a black or coloured person went through the exact same story, and that's just how it is. No matter what happens, you will always have more privilege than a black person going through the same thing.
The short answer is yes. The long answer is just because shitty people did shitty things to you, which I'm very sorry to hear about, doesn't mean you aren't the beneficiary of a system that is institutionally and deliberately racist.
I know it might hurt to hear it from so many people, but yes, you are privileged. And beyond simply saying that, I want you to know that people saying "yes, you are privileged" is not a condemnation of you as a human being, so if you can do your best, please do not take it personally when you hear that from people. / What you need to do is zoom out a bit, if at all possible. The current and ongoing conversation calling out privilege and inherent bias is a discussion that challenges broad, socially ingrained, pernicious and systemic racism. While this conversation is often re-started and driven forward by individual cases of suffering. However, the problem we all must confront is one of structural inequity, a problem that stems from the bias (conscious and unconscious) that pervades "white" society across the globe. The problem is the belief that white lives, experiences, and culture matter more above all others. The problem is white supremacy. / Your personal experiences as a white/cis male are awful, and I'm sorry that you've had such a shit go of it all. But those experiences are due primarily to specific interpersonal situations of strife, and they were not in any way caused or exacerbated by any systemic and historical oppression that white/cis people have been continually subjected to for centuries. Imagine having had as hard of a life as you have, and on top of it all being subjected to racial or sexual prejudice, as another layer on top of that. Imagine being told in the hardest moments of your life that you're inhuman, property, chattel. Imagine being spit on simply because of the color of your skin. Imagine being followed by police, distrusted by store clerks, avoided by pedestrians simply due to the melanin that you were born with, pigmenting you and marking you as a social outcast from birth. I'm sure that you can imagine that if you added this pressure and prejudice into those awful situations of your life that you might have gone over the edge, that it all truly would have been too much to bear. / So please, understand that Black folx are not sharing their personal stories of pain and anguish to be entered into an individual competition with your white pain and anguish, to say that their hurt is worse than yours or that their lives are more important. Their fight is simply to be acknowledged, to feel as if they are welcomed and accepted in society just as much as anyone else. These stories and experiences are part of a larger discussion, an acknowledgement of a violent and corrosive history, a brutal and inhumane ideal of white supremacy, and the discussion cannot end until white supremacy dies. And I need you to understand that your desire for your story to be heard over Black stories, to ask for people to say that white privilege doesn't apply to you simply because you don't feel like you've lived a privileged life, is in itself an embodiment of white supremacy. And rather than wade into a war of semantics online, I would prefer for you to do your best to put your pain and trauma to the side for a moment, and consider the collective pain and trauma of the Black community, worldwide. / Please take the time to acknowledge the fact that while you experienced a great many awful things in your life, not one of those things happened to you (even in small part) because of the color of your skin, and not one of those awful things was part of a greater, societal effort to denigrate and strip you of your humanity. I hope you can push back from your own awful lived experiences and sit, make space, and build empathy to connect with and understand the suffering of others. Peace be with you.
Yes, I'm a poor indigenous woman and even I have privilege in particular social settings. It's rare but if I can acknowledge that what I am can be advantageous then surely you can too.
Why is it weird? It would be weirder if a fish was trying to ask questions.. They're just recorded conversations with friends who happen to create great music and some joy... I mean if you don't like it then cool.. I'm taking any joy I can at the minute in this World.. ✌🏻
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Yeeeeeeeeesssssssss!
"It's me, the man you never thought you needed...and still don't." Haha story of my existence lol
New to the Idles world but its a great place to reside in
🖤 🦊
Have you joined the afgang group page on FB? Come on over...
I have not will do 🖤🖤
@@CUSTARDcustardy The majestic Fox doing the good work.
one of us.....one of us
Hak and IDLES both in heavy, heavy rotation in this house. Super grateful to the Spotify algorithm that sent you guys my way; even more grateful to Joe & Co and Hak for making killer sounds for every part of the day. All the best from the Dumpster Fire that is the US. 🤙
Hak Baker getting the exposure he deserves. The blokes gonna blow up soon and thank fuck he is legend.
About time an all…!!!!
Chvrches shows on RUclips are great to listen to while stoned.
Brilliant observation..."Privilege is the biggest obstacle to understanding privilege" made by Adam Greenwood, well done!
I love these! Could listen to Joe shoot the breeze with guests for hours
Love it when he gets his little note book out to quotes Hak Baker. 4.22
This format is fucking stellar and HUGE thanks to the fellow at the end, that is perhaps the wisest take on the situation today I've EVER heard. That man truly enlightened my perspective.
'No worries. Spread the word.' - John Clay
Another great vid that brought a smile to my otherwise stressful day. I got into Idles after my friends band supported you and sang your praises about how great you were on and off the stage
Reminds me of MTV Europe in the old days. You should have Ray Cokes on one of these days.
This is such a great concept, soooo funny and warming to watch, proper throw back to something, possibly MTV, but I'm not sure. Love it!!
Can't wait for this, love Hak Baker
'Thanks Joseph for having me on the People's Soapbox to promote Black Lives Matter. I would give the timestamp for my 5 minute rant but that might tempt non IDLES fans to skip the show. Big love to Lindsay, Keira-Anee Photography, Balley TV and Al Brown of FLUFFER RECORDS (Missing those pit parties).' - John Clay
Education, education, education: www.theblackcurriculum.com/
#rantbox
The little cutaways feel inspired by Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy
I didn't know I needed this but now I do
Yes!!! Good to see another episode!! The last one had me in stitches.
SWEET LAUREN!!❤
Simpson’s sing the blues is my first tape I owned!
YES! Now do one with slowthai!
Marvelous... I'll be watching that!
Amazing♥️
This is great!
Excellent!
chvrches and idles together, LET'S GO
Lauren and Joe together, what is this, a crossover episode?!?
That fugu fish answer is priceless
I feel Hak is gonna laugh all episode
More like hahahaha baker amirite
big up the idles cruuu
Haks laugh is fucking brilliant
Fuckyess Hak is the man!!!
Best tv not on tv. Unless you watch it on your tv . But you know what I mean . I guess things are ch ch changing . .....Best thing on tv .
What tune is that in the count down?
Mr. Motivator 🖤
@@CUSTARDcustardy No it was some chilled out song x
@@bensilk550 oh wait.. The premiere countdown music? I have no idea sorry.. X
Aye education the way to go, that was funny as fuck quailty
WOOP!
who else wants to see Joe on cold ones?
666th like right here✊️ banging show thank you!
What about Salvia, gang?
poggers
Big money?
Are you mad?
Lad!
Lauren fucking Mayberry lets gooo
What does Balley mean?
Slang for balaclava- hence Joe wearing one in the opening credits
Could be an anglicised version of the Irish word for "town"
Who’s the guy in the middle??
Simpsons sing the blues though
fookin hell
oi oi
Hak made this episode hard to listen to. That mic he's got is of the most shit level that not only can I understand only half of what he's saying, but it hurts to listen to. And that sucks, because he seems cool and like he's got some interesting ideas. Hopefully future episodes can rein in on the audio quality, though I know they can only do so much with a guests equipment.
People are people. The thing about being a white, Western, (somewhat) cis male is: you can't even generalise that demographic, and you can't say they're all 'privileged'.
I'll go right ahead and make myself an example, in total honesty.
My father killed himself when I was nine years old, in the midst of a bitter divorce; every time Ì had to visit him, they had to drag me out of the car because of the stories my mother told me about him; later on, I found out these were all lies, and when I finally met his brother, my uncle, years later on, he said it was quite painful to see how much I resembled him.
My mother remarried a military guy, who tried to give me a Spartan education by hitting me out of bed in the middle of the night, making me put my trainers on, and forcing me to run rounds around the block until I couldn't take anymore. During the Christmas school vacation, he used to lock me in my room with a bucket to shit in, and every now and again, a plate of food was given to me.
By the time I was thirteen, my half-sister was born, and my mother was addicted to anti-depressants and could hardly get out of bed; my stepfather was either working at the army station, or drinking away his sorrows, so the care for this child fell pretty much solely on my shoulders.
After my first suicide attempt, at age fourteen, they sent me to psychiatrists, and they told me I was traumatised, slightly autistic, and (worst of all) probably never able to confidently function in a social context on my own.
I left home when I was sixteen. That was twenty-two years ago. I still miss my half-sister - but I had to go on, and I had to do it alone.
This is just one story. I'm not going to list the ways I've tried to help people of all colours and kinds, and animals in need in the meantime; it's not a pissing contest.
But I'm a white cis Western male. Now, tell me:
Am I privileged?
i completely understand your point of view but as someone currently affected by severe depression and anxiety, caused by traumatising events, i still have more privilege than if a black or coloured person went through the exact same story, and that's just how it is. No matter what happens, you will always have more privilege than a black person going through the same thing.
The short answer is yes.
The long answer is just because shitty people did shitty things to you, which I'm very sorry to hear about, doesn't mean you aren't the beneficiary of a system that is institutionally and deliberately racist.
Yes
I know it might hurt to hear it from so many people, but yes, you are privileged. And beyond simply saying that, I want you to know that people saying "yes, you are privileged" is not a condemnation of you as a human being, so if you can do your best, please do not take it personally when you hear that from people.
/
What you need to do is zoom out a bit, if at all possible. The current and ongoing conversation calling out privilege and inherent bias is a discussion that challenges broad, socially ingrained, pernicious and systemic racism. While this conversation is often re-started and driven forward by individual cases of suffering. However, the problem we all must confront is one of structural inequity, a problem that stems from the bias (conscious and unconscious) that pervades "white" society across the globe. The problem is the belief that white lives, experiences, and culture matter more above all others. The problem is white supremacy.
/
Your personal experiences as a white/cis male are awful, and I'm sorry that you've had such a shit go of it all. But those experiences are due primarily to specific interpersonal situations of strife, and they were not in any way caused or exacerbated by any systemic and historical oppression that white/cis people have been continually subjected to for centuries. Imagine having had as hard of a life as you have, and on top of it all being subjected to racial or sexual prejudice, as another layer on top of that. Imagine being told in the hardest moments of your life that you're inhuman, property, chattel. Imagine being spit on simply because of the color of your skin. Imagine being followed by police, distrusted by store clerks, avoided by pedestrians simply due to the melanin that you were born with, pigmenting you and marking you as a social outcast from birth. I'm sure that you can imagine that if you added this pressure and prejudice into those awful situations of your life that you might have gone over the edge, that it all truly would have been too much to bear.
/
So please, understand that Black folx are not sharing their personal stories of pain and anguish to be entered into an individual competition with your white pain and anguish, to say that their hurt is worse than yours or that their lives are more important. Their fight is simply to be acknowledged, to feel as if they are welcomed and accepted in society just as much as anyone else. These stories and experiences are part of a larger discussion, an acknowledgement of a violent and corrosive history, a brutal and inhumane ideal of white supremacy, and the discussion cannot end until white supremacy dies. And I need you to understand that your desire for your story to be heard over Black stories, to ask for people to say that white privilege doesn't apply to you simply because you don't feel like you've lived a privileged life, is in itself an embodiment of white supremacy. And rather than wade into a war of semantics online, I would prefer for you to do your best to put your pain and trauma to the side for a moment, and consider the collective pain and trauma of the Black community, worldwide.
/
Please take the time to acknowledge the fact that while you experienced a great many awful things in your life, not one of those things happened to you (even in small part) because of the color of your skin, and not one of those awful things was part of a greater, societal effort to denigrate and strip you of your humanity. I hope you can push back from your own awful lived experiences and sit, make space, and build empathy to connect with and understand the suffering of others. Peace be with you.
Yes, I'm a poor indigenous woman and even I have privilege in particular social settings. It's rare but if I can acknowledge that what I am can be advantageous then surely you can too.
I love IDLES but, no. Not this... why is Joe doing this?! It doesn’t seem natural, it’s so weird... I hope fame doesn’t ruin this great band :/
Why is it weird? It would be weirder if a fish was trying to ask questions..
They're just recorded conversations with friends who happen to create great music and some joy... I mean if you don't like it then cool.. I'm taking any joy I can at the minute in this World.. ✌🏻