Some women do, always say no! What is so telling? Some women have no, no desire. The relationship can be strong in friendship, in parenting & building a future together. But the answer is still no! What is so telling!
If you’re with a woman that’s not paying for anything, that’s all your fault. You chose to be with a woman like that. Where are you living that men don’t date anymore? Also, if you’re in the dating stage of the relationship or dating multiple women and you’re already paying rent, again you chose to do that and that’s a very simp move. Maybe choose better women. Very typical to complain about paying rent, paying for food, paying for entertainment, complain about paying for everything when again you’re making those chooses willingly. If you’re paying all of that in exchange for sex again that’s your fault. Very weird actually. Maybe take accountability for the choices you make and for the women you date. You’re the problem and the enabler.
@@niicolee06 oh you that type of women but I’m sorry there’s not any around like you. It’s always the men’s fault but never the women’s fault for the way they are.
@@niicolee06 yeah right, both my ex wives paid for half and then we slowly moved into me paying for everything You only have to watch videos to see the attitude, women saying what do I bring to the the table I am the table, so nothing really just sex I'd rather pay a prostitute at least they leave
As men we can handle rejection, we deal with it all the time. Women on the other hand cannot. If I ever tell my wife I’m not feeling it then I’m automatically cheating on her. The double standard for declining sex is real in heterosexual couples.
I think it is more about their experience. Some men are rejected for years and every once in awhile they will finally get it. Being rejected over and over isn't easy and can't help but eat away at a person. God forbid it ever gets to the point where the wife starts to treat it as a chore and feels like it is burden. That really takes a toll on a man and can break him. So he stops trying and then when she finally comes onto him after some time goes by and he says he not in the mood or he doesn't feel good and rejects her a few times that same woman who has constantly rejected him for years loses her mind gets mad and starts accusing him of cheating. To the point it shakes the relationship to the core.its weird that it's not a problem to reject him for years but if he does it to her for a few days it's a huge deal . I seen it happen to a lot of married men.
Yeah men's choice to see it as rejection is a weird one, I totally agree. That's solvable with therapy. This video is about how abusive men coerce their wives but I feel like you identified with the abuser... Interesting.
@@strongerthanbefore don't have to rape but I can cheat on her happily, this isn't Disney, if I don't get any then I can get a women that will give me some. It's your choice.
@@strongerthanbefore if she's withholding sex then he can withhold finances too and emotional support since she's not in he mood he just won't feel like tending to her needs. Two can play at that game. The truth is that in a marriage you have obligation whether you like it or not or whether it benefits you or not and also when you Don't cater to it be prepared for the outcome like a fucking grown up
Not all situations are coercion, but a reaction to the abusive distance. I have been without for 2 years. But oh wait, it's me that has to change. Tell me more about the countless hoops that I alone, not you, have to jump through.
You are so right. My husband to a T. He would also say things to me like “you don’t like sex”. I wanted to scream at him that he is wrong, I just don’t like it with HIM! Because I always felt like I could be just anyone. He made no effort toward making me feel he had an intimate emotional connection with me. I was an object to be used and then tossed aside like a common tramp.
Yes. Probably thousands of times over the 25 years I tried to ask him for the treatment I needed to be feel cherished and loved enough to be able to be as vulnerable as would be needed to give what he wanted the way he wanted. In other words asked him to meet me halfway and then we would both be able to enjoy each other and be happy. I tried everything possible to make it work with him. But I finally realized any concerns I asked to talk about were met with blame shifting and rages. Every time. Never could get through. So of course a person gives up so you don’t have to be blamed and raged at every day. The best decision I ever made for myself was to leave and never look back. I invested 25 years with him and he didn’t care or value any of it. If you have to beg someone to treat you with the most basic bare minimum of common human decency, while you are not treating them back in kind, then the person begging is not the problem. If you haven’t lived through a relationship with a narcissist, then you wouldn’t understand. I didn’t stay for 25 years trying to break through to him if I wasn’t trying.
@@KittyKat8946 Good for you for standing up for yourself. You did your part in communicating and trying to work with him, but you cannot change the other person. So you left...which shows self love. I would consider his behavior a form of abandonment from what you describe. I hope you are doing well.
You're allowed to say no but if your no is every day for a month or over after I've brought it up to you then in stepping out or it's over give me what I need and I'll repay the favor easy as that
I said no once. After that he stopped initiating & left me to initiate for the past 10 years. Yet he always threatens to cheat because I don’t give it to him as often to him as he wants but he never asks for it.
When he said he " will" cheat because you said ' no" once , guaranteed he is already or has been cheating. Typical Narc.... Their accusations are confessions. Sorry
@@KittyKat8946 IT really sucks to give your all to someone you thought wouldn't ir couldn't fool you. I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Caught me after I got out of a relationship with my other narcissist. From the fire straight into the frying pan. They target us. I feel sorry for the next man who steps into my personal space. I did it for love twice. Now, I want Diamonds, CAR, House, Clothes, Vacations and Dinners out...
Geesh. My narc ex-husband withheld sex from me as a form of control and would put me down for wanting sex from him and wanting it “a lot.” He is the SOLE reason for our sexless marriage. But ok 🙄
His disgust for my body… I remember. 7 of 14 years and he had no interest in me. Teased that I should just exercise but then said it wasn’t my fault but had no interest in fixing it.
@@TheTroutyness being out of shape or overweight is one hundred percent the fault of the individual. Only the individual can control what they eat, or how active or inactive they are. I have met so many women who blame kids for their figure but won’t accept they have poor eating and exercise habits. Ironically you mentioned the number 7. In 7 years time every cell in your body has completely died and been replaced. That means you literally can’t carry fat cellls from 7 years ago. You’re simply engaging in the same behavior that caused you to be fat at that time (not saying you specifically because I don’t know or have ever seen you). So this is just an excuse for laziness.
None of my business here… but normally it’s the female that does this… but yes men do this too. So when you talk to him about it, what does he say? Are you guys sleeping in the same room? Does he pick fights to “win” over you? Is he or you disrespectful when talking to each other? At some point it is control but over time even the control goes away and it doesn’t mean anything. What power does he have over you if you don’t care? So he goes with out and so do you… no one wins 😆 unless his getting it from a little friend at work… this is crazy
@@constantinmilitaru I’m not going to get into detail on here. Damned if I stayed, damned if I didn’t, both then and with how I’m perceived by people nowadays. He won.
Sexless marriages tend to happen for very specific reasons. What great is most of the time there is a solution. 1) Most common is medical. Something has happened with your body or brain chemistry and you really need to see a doctor. 2) bad life balance. Especially for 2 working parents. It takes 2 people with energy at the end of the day for sex. If you find your wife at the end is going at 💯 cooking and doing things for the kids. You are setting yourself up for less sex. If she cooks. You handle kids and clean up. Balance enough so you can have energy for sex. That may mean skipping doing the dishes or eating out instead of at home. 3) You become roommates and not lovers. You can't expect good sex without build up. Butt squeezes, Flirting, flashing each other out of the shower. Kisses and touches that happen outside of sex make way for the touches that do lead to sex. Every real conversation you have with your wife let's her know she is connected to you. If she knows that and feels it. She will want to have sex.
Exactly. You stop watering my plant it dries up. I don’t want to beg for my husband to make love to me. This is all so complicated. I feel like I am nothing.
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Being in a sexless marriage for 30 years, I have now learned that saying no once will be saying no always. Like when does the yes ever come.
The greatest joy I had in my life was leaving that marriage knowing I would never marry again.
Until , rhe husband start to say no. All of a sudden she turns crazy times 10
Some women do, always say no!
What is so telling?
Some women have no, no desire. The relationship can be strong in friendship, in parenting & building a future together. But the answer is still no!
What is so telling!
Yeah ladies say no, men say no to paying their rent, food, entertainment, no wonder men don't date anymore
That’s fax
If you’re with a woman that’s not paying for anything, that’s all your fault. You chose to be with a woman like that. Where are you living that men don’t date anymore? Also, if you’re in the dating stage of the relationship or dating multiple women and you’re already paying rent, again you chose to do that and that’s a very simp move. Maybe choose better women. Very typical to complain about paying rent, paying for food, paying for entertainment, complain about paying for everything when again you’re making those chooses willingly. If you’re paying all of that in exchange for sex again that’s your fault. Very weird actually. Maybe take accountability for the choices you make and for the women you date. You’re the problem and the enabler.
@@niicolee06 oh you that type of women but I’m sorry there’s not any around like you. It’s always the men’s fault but never the women’s fault for the way they are.
@@niicolee06 yeah right, both my ex wives paid for half and then we slowly moved into me paying for everything
You only have to watch videos to see the attitude, women saying what do I bring to the the table I am the table, so nothing really just sex
I'd rather pay a prostitute at least they leave
As men we can handle rejection, we deal with it all the time. Women on the other hand cannot. If I ever tell my wife I’m not feeling it then I’m automatically cheating on her. The double standard for declining sex is real in heterosexual couples.
Your half of the rent is due.
I think it is more about their experience. Some men are rejected for years and every once in awhile they will finally get it. Being rejected over and over isn't easy and can't help but eat away at a person. God forbid it ever gets to the point where the wife starts to treat it as a chore and feels like it is burden. That really takes a toll on a man and can break him. So he stops trying and then when she finally comes onto him after some time goes by and he says he not in the mood or he doesn't feel good and rejects her a few times that same woman who has constantly rejected him for years loses her mind gets mad and starts accusing him of cheating. To the point it shakes the relationship to the core.its weird that it's not a problem to reject him for years but if he does it to her for a few days it's a huge deal . I seen it happen to a lot of married men.
Yeah men's choice to see it as rejection is a weird one, I totally agree. That's solvable with therapy. This video is about how abusive men coerce their wives but I feel like you identified with the abuser... Interesting.
American women are lost
Western women not just American
Sex should be a requirement if you get married once she says no you can say no to the marriage.😊
I agree, women should say no to a marriage where her husband says he should be able to rape her.
@@strongerthanbefore don't have to rape but I can cheat on her happily, this isn't Disney, if I don't get any then I can get a women that will give me some. It's your choice.
@@strongerthanbeforenot that but if she doesn't wanna have sex well don't be surprised his looking elsewhere for someone that respects him or cheats😂
@@strongerthanbefore if she's withholding sex then he can withhold finances too and emotional support since she's not in he mood he just won't feel like tending to her needs. Two can play at that game. The truth is that in a marriage you have obligation whether you like it or not or whether it benefits you or not and also when you Don't cater to it be prepared for the outcome like a fucking grown up
Not all situations are coercion, but a reaction to the abusive distance. I have been without for 2 years. But oh wait, it's me that has to change. Tell me more about the countless hoops that I alone, not you, have to jump through.
You are so right. My husband to a T. He would also say things to me like “you don’t like sex”. I wanted to scream at him that he is wrong, I just don’t like it with HIM! Because I always felt like I could be just anyone. He made no effort toward making me feel he had an intimate emotional connection with me. I was an object to be used and then tossed aside like a common tramp.
Literally the opposite of what she said
He should not have married you. I'm sure you saw the sex drive he possessed before you said I do.
Did you bother to communicate this with him? Can't be upset if you have not expressed your needs.
Yes. Probably thousands of times over the 25 years I tried to ask him for the treatment I needed to be feel cherished and loved enough to be able to be as vulnerable as would be needed to give what he wanted the way he wanted. In other words asked him to meet me halfway and then we would both be able to enjoy each other and be happy. I tried everything possible to make it work with him. But I finally realized any concerns I asked to talk about were met with blame shifting and rages. Every time. Never could get through. So of course a person gives up so you don’t have to be blamed and raged at every day. The best decision I ever made for myself was to leave and never look back. I invested 25 years with him and he didn’t care or value any of it. If you have to beg someone to treat you with the most basic bare minimum of common human decency, while you are not treating them back in kind, then the person begging is not the problem. If you haven’t lived through a relationship with a narcissist, then you wouldn’t understand. I didn’t stay for 25 years trying to break through to him if I wasn’t trying.
@@KittyKat8946 Good for you for standing up for yourself. You did your part in communicating and trying to work with him, but you cannot change the other person. So you left...which shows self love. I would consider his behavior a form of abandonment from what you describe. I hope you are doing well.
You're allowed to say no but if your no is every day for a month or over after I've brought it up to you then in stepping out or it's over give me what I need and I'll repay the favor easy as that
Why cheat, when you can just break up? Wouldn’t communicating that to her and if it still doesn’t change then leave sound better?
@@niicolee06 why get in a relationship just to refuse sex to your partner...?
@@niicolee06 some would argue that if the man approaches you for sex and you refuse and he says listen this is to much that would be communication
@@niicolee06 but at the end of the day once the man is done and doesn't care cheating and leaving are one in the same it doesn't really matter
If i give my partner the opportunity to hit me they will always hit me...its almost like ive had a bad time before.
Woman logic.
I said no once. After that he stopped initiating & left me to initiate for the past 10 years. Yet he always threatens to cheat because I don’t give it to him as often to him as he wants but he never asks for it.
Same. It freaks me out how they all speak and act from the same script
When he said he " will" cheat because you said ' no" once , guaranteed he is already or has been cheating. Typical Narc....
Their accusations are confessions. Sorry
@@denisedawson6343 you are so right. Precisely what my ex husband did.
@@KittyKat8946 IT really sucks to give your all to someone you thought wouldn't ir couldn't fool you. I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Caught me after I got out of a relationship with my other narcissist. From the fire straight into the frying pan. They target us. I feel sorry for the next man who steps into my personal space. I did it for love twice. Now, I want Diamonds, CAR, House, Clothes, Vacations and Dinners out...
Guarantee if they threaten you with cheating or “I should cheat on you”, more than likely they are already cheating on you.
This video is telling
She crazy for that. She rejecting her man onviously.
This video is telling... isn't it? Complicated problems deserve more that trite, derisive, prejudicial assessments.
Geesh. My narc ex-husband withheld sex from me as a form of control and would put me down for wanting sex from him and wanting it “a lot.” He is the SOLE reason for our sexless marriage. But ok 🙄
And even go so far as to laugh in your face about it , I'm sorry you've been through this too
His disgust for my body… I remember. 7 of 14 years and he had no interest in me. Teased that I should just exercise but then said it wasn’t my fault but had no interest in fixing it.
@@TheTroutyness being out of shape or overweight is one hundred percent the fault of the individual.
Only the individual can control what they eat, or how active or inactive they are. I have met so many women who blame kids for their figure but won’t accept they have poor eating and exercise habits.
Ironically you mentioned the number 7. In 7 years time every cell in your body has completely died and been replaced. That means you literally can’t carry fat cellls from 7 years ago. You’re simply engaging in the same behavior that caused you to be fat at that time (not saying you specifically because I don’t know or have ever seen you). So this is just an excuse for laziness.
None of my business here… but normally it’s the female that does this… but yes men do this too. So when you talk to him about it, what does he say? Are you guys sleeping in the same room? Does he pick fights to “win” over you? Is he or you disrespectful when talking to each other? At some point it is control but over time even the control goes away and it doesn’t mean anything. What power does he have over you if you don’t care? So he goes with out and so do you… no one wins 😆 unless his getting it from a little friend at work… this is crazy
@@constantinmilitaru I’m not going to get into detail on here. Damned if I stayed, damned if I didn’t, both then and with how I’m perceived by people nowadays. He won.
Sexless marriages tend to happen for very specific reasons. What great is most of the time there is a solution.
1) Most common is medical. Something has happened with your body or brain chemistry and you really need to see a doctor.
2) bad life balance. Especially for 2 working parents. It takes 2 people with energy at the end of the day for sex. If you find your wife at the end is going at 💯 cooking and doing things for the kids. You are setting yourself up for less sex. If she cooks. You handle kids and clean up. Balance enough so you can have energy for sex. That may mean skipping doing the dishes or eating out instead of at home.
3) You become roommates and not lovers. You can't expect good sex without build up. Butt squeezes, Flirting, flashing each other out of the shower. Kisses and touches that happen outside of sex make way for the touches that do lead to sex. Every real conversation you have with your wife let's her know she is connected to you. If she knows that and feels it. She will want to have sex.
Exactly. You stop watering my plant it dries up. I don’t want to beg for my husband to make love to me. This is all so complicated. I feel like I am nothing.
Ok thats fine then i can say no im not paying the bills this month honey
Most men don't so this would have zero impact except you getting thrown out for being a deadbeat lol.