thanks for posting, Awesome pc of equipment! I need one for my 25HP kubota to help move big logs around the farm/ from forest. You're in Guelph / Ontario area right? - where did you buy this Log Arch? I noticed the manufacturer is in USA with no mention of Canadian dealers.
Gotta say I laughed when you started calling for neighbor Doug and he came walking out of the woods. I’m sure as time and use goes you’ll develop a system for use. Good video. Looking forward to seeing the build come spring. Stay safe
Just remember to never cut under your notch and always prune off the stump. The unlucky animal that stumbles and falls and impales itself might be you. Even the pros mark the trees with the saw to ensure a level cut. Not wanting to sound like a know it all, but getting into good habits early is a plus. You got some nice-looking logs from that tree. Cutting in winter is always preferred, the sap is down and both lumber and firewood cure quicker.
Yeah, to Jerry M's point, that is a very dangerous cut on that white oak...something that big and straight up should be felled with a bore cut and "directional felling" techniques. With the amount of time you're spending out in the woods, would STRONGLY recommend you take a chainsaw safety course and timber felling instruction. It will save your life. You're in PA, check out Game of Logging instructors. The absolute best.
I built a log arch from scratch about 15 years ago, and the design is nearly identical. I have 24 acres with very steep hills too. I used mine with my atv, and one of the things to watch for is that with a very heavy load it will push the 4 wheeler down the hill and will try to jacknife if you use the brakes too much. So having a little more weight at the back to drag a bit heavier and give a little more natural braking. Might be a good idea to hose off some of the drag mud before sawing. Maybe a tote with water and you submersible pump might be enough. PS, HF has a two wheel dolly trailer handler that will hook onto the ball receiver and makes it much easier to move around by hand and is inexpensive.
@@PurpleCollarLife I was SO impressed he dropped that tree on the stump! And to make it even better, the stump was RIGHT where he had to make his cut, AND, the stump was perfect height to keep the tree from pinching the bar !!! AMAZING!!!
Leave the hammer take the saw when you step away from the tree ! That was a near miss when the bottom of the trunk bounced and hit your saw ! I've seen the trunk smash a saw to unrepairable ! I'm sure you've cut many trees but we all get complaisant with time, hammers or axes are cheaper than a great saw. If you winch the logs to the top of the arch at the front before wrapping the chains then do the same at the back it will keep most logs out of the mud and not dragging. Great video as usual .
Absolutely agree, I lost a fairly new Stihl chainsaw that way, the tree bound the bar, then the tree started to rotate off the stump, releasing and swinging the saw, letting it fall exactly under where the butt of the tree slipped off of the stump directly on top of the powerhead and buried what was left of the saw about a foot underground....in what seemed like slow motion... as I watched in abject dismay...🤢..a quick way to lose $500.00 IMHO🤑
Hey Adam! One tip...if you can, just back the arch right over the log and pick it right where it falls. Any dragging gets tons of dirt in the bark and dulls your band saw blades quickly! I make one from scratch years ago and it looks almost identical! One other tip 😁 if your block under the front of the log when you drop it is shorter than the wheelbase of the arch, you can drive away once you drop it without catching on your block ....
First off, I love the design idea for the front of the garage! It makes it that much cooler that you are cutting and making your own beams! Also, that log skidder is slick! You’re making me want a sawmill.
I use a RuggedMade log dolly skidding arch along with a tail end log dolly to keep the end from dragging in the mud. Sure makes skidding a lot cleaner. Good video. -Dave
Thank you for consistently good content. I think my personal favorite is when you're working in the trees, and calling for Doug was a bonus! Keep up the good work and thanks for inviting us to join, vicariously, in on the fun again.
Adam, you’re one of the few people who I watch on YT who I’d actually like to hang out with and have a beer 🍻. You’re just a quality guy. You remind me of me. It’s obvious that you have a soft and loving side, but you also have a strong and manly side. You have the right balance, as do I. You have my respect and admiration. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and yours.
Using the Husqvarna 455 on that big oak? Why not the Holzfforma? That arch is nice. It’s definitely time to park the tractor until mud season is over. I’m doing the same. It works out to be a good time to do some tractor maintenance and repairs before the busy spring/summer work.
You have a side by side so put a hitch in front, turn around and hook it to the front and you can push very easy and see easily how to steer it to the spot so less dragging of logs to a pickup point. Also on the arm which is called a reach can be cut into.... a smaller piece of square stock can be slid inside of it so its adjustable in the overall length. Like your engine hoist and just slide a bolt through it where the length is right for you. Keeping them logs out of the dirt will make the blade on the sawmill a lot happier also. What a nice little setup. I made mine thirty years ago and have electric winches plus tongs to pick with. Tongs reach on either side of the log and have points to hook the log with
To get your chain under the log or logs . Take a peace of 1/2 inch diameter put a ring on one end . Put a slight arch to it . Works slick pulling your chain through. I like your arch well done
Yep all the loggerz are gonna judge.i get LUCKY probably more than I should.i have pinched my saws way more than I would like to admit. As long as the tree is down and no damage good to go! I don't leave home with out another saw and extra chains.
After dragging the log through the mud and dirt it might be a good idea to pressure wash them before you put them on the mill to minimize wear and damage to the blade.
That’s a pretty amazing rig! Something that would take about 3 hours of welding in the shop….which informs me of what I get to do for the next 3 hours! Thanks for the idea!
I built a very similar arch and it cost me a lot less than buying one including the hubs, axles, tires, and rims. The winch that I already owned was detachable from the mill for loading without a tractor and fit perfectly inside a 2x2 steel tube I added to the log arch. I actually enjoyed building it and mine is a few feet longer than the one here and cost about half of the purchased one in the link shown. Today it will cost more but that was a few years ago before Biden took office.
Outstanding new tool. I won’t ever need one personally, but it was a video worth watching from beginning to end. Roll the logs in the field on a branch to give you a cable pass through. Just a thought. I’ll be here to watch you mill.
Adam I really believe you could benefit from 1 of cotontop3 chainsaw classes he's a very knowledgeable man when it comes to chainsaws and falling trees.
I ran into a situation where my saw jammed in the tree. I hadn’t put a wedge in the cut. The tree rolled and fell with my saw in it, smashing my saw! Expensive fire wood that trip😢. My heart was in my mouth when I saw it bounce back on your saw😖. Glad you were clear.... you can replace a saw, but not the saw owner. Enjoyed your video, thanks!
I have an arch that looks really close to that , that I built it’s nice if you don’t want to drag logs and get dirt in the bark. I have a 2 wheel drive 350cc atv and have moved logs with it. I built a “v” at the front to hold the logs from swinging around.
Must be nice. I think I’ll do something fancy for my new garage. I’ll go cur down a tree and mill some 6x6 lumber. Living the good life. We need to see you cut out the 6x6 lumber and making the fancy pouch. 😎
I am no expert by any means... but I will share what I have learned about "notching" the tree... Yes, your aim is great so you have the hinge part down. When you have a healthy solid tree, you can take a much bigger initial cut. On a dead or softer tree you cut might have been ok. By taking the bigger bite you might not have to even use the wedges. At the end of the day... you got the tree down safely and where you wanted it.
I have two tractors. An older Kubota with chains anda brandnew Kioti without chains - brand new tires. The difference in traction without chains is obvious. So I made a set out from some Harbor freight chain,cross link ends off Ebay and pieces of random chain that were around my buildings. Tractor chains are very expensive. I have plowed our 900 ft driveway for 15 years and without the chains its a pain. Good tractor chains are held on top of the lugs. ours fall between but still work fine. The ice comes early and stays late. In mud they are good too, My advice is make some. I have to make some kind of arch because dragging logs thru mud will ruin your mill blades fast. We bought a new woodland 126 14 hp we will setup on a slab out back. We had a mill years ago but it was a rather crude setup. Having a solid base under the mill makes a huge difference. I ran a slab with extra conc we ordered for one of our other buildings. We have lots of ledge so you clean it off and make forms. Its easy peasy.
In response to those questioning dragging the log end: Having a drag point may prevent a jackknife when using your side by side pulling downhill. I'm sure that log outweighs both you and your side by side. You can always clean the mud off that end before sawing.
Ooooh Adam. I had my saw stuck while cutting like that (big oak) and it twisted like that and landed on my saw, squished it flat. Super bummer but glad to see yours is ok
That's is pretty impressive, you said it was faster than a skidder you may be right there however a skidder will pull way way more per trip out the woods.. but with that being said for what it is it does work well..
Fantastic video! I took some scrap metal and a car hitch. A friend welded up my design and it has been working great. Even put a video up about it last week. tHanks for the video
I built one very similar to that one (you can see it on my channel) - except mine did not have the winch on it. I've used it a couple times now and love it. I'm getting ready to use it to haul some logs out of a gully.
Sure am jealous. Would really like to have oak to put on my mill. I'm up in central BC, no hard woods, but we do have lots of Fir. As for the log arch, I'm sold. I could pay for it in the blades I don't wreck due to dirt. Thanks for the vid.
Nice log Arch for user friendly design just need to look at lengthening of the hoist by 8-12" would be nice maybe Doug has a way to extend the frame? Anyway As always good luck and God Bless.
I’m here to say, that log arch sure is an awesome way to get perfect logs out of the woods. No ruts and dirty logs! But even with all these cool things you have I’m sure most viewers are more interested in where you got those exceptionally nice rugged warm gloves from? Those look like a must have item! 😁
Doug, you'll have to figure out a way to get a wheel contraption for the back of the log so there will be no dragging at all. I'm pretty sure you can figure something out that is cheap and practical.
nice clean drop of that ash tree Adam. be cautious using it for exterior framing though. Its as strong as the white oak you thought is was but wont resist rot. I have a small barn framed in ash and hickory. if you over hang your roof enough and keep your post bases high and darin away from the end grain itl hold up. nice bottom log though. those are gunna get rare.
Just found your channel. Pretty sure that was an Ash you cut. Should of used the arch right where you dropped the tree, it keeps the dirt out of the bark that I turn dulls the saw blade. But things are looking great!
Would the arch work better if there was a cross piece in front to raise the log to? You could put a notch to nest the log in and raise the log so the rear won’t drag at all. I’m sure Doug could weld something up.
@@haroldphipps3457 I've been cutting for 50 years. Could be just me, but I find it easier. Also, I always use a wedge BEFORE the cut stars to close and pinch the bar. Let me know what you think. Shalom/gw
If you take a 3/8 piece of round stock about 2 feet long and attach it to a piece of chain. Then you can hook it to the winch cable and easily push the rod under the log and pull the cable threw.
500i!! A tree like this white oak will produce a couple hundred in firewood. Wouldn’t take long to have greater profit that what the loggers wanted to pay.
Hey man here is a tip for you in measuring logs because a tape can be a real pain sometimes. I've cut timber for 28 years and have always just cut a 4 feet stick in the woods and took my saw and put a mark at two feet. Then when you measure never pick up the stick just roll it and each time it's 4,8,10,12,16 and so on then for ten footers you have the two foot mark. You can tie some bright surveyors' tape to each end to keep up with it easier. This is just way faster then using a tape measure and if it's lost you can make another in two minutes no big deal. Also brother don't take this as bashing but i can tell you haven't cut tons of timber so just please be careful! No tree is worth your life or the life of a nearby friend! If something ever goes wrong it happens lightning fast. Those trees are heavy and have lots of pressure. It becomes second nature the more we do it but nobody is too good to get hurt or die. I got hurt in October for the 1st time ever while cutting trees. No saw was involved it was just a ground level fall from slipping now my arm will never be the same again from all the screws and metal and loss of strength and motion. I like your way of skidding by the way. It's good for a guy who is doing stuff for himself who don't want to drop a fortune. Be safe and happy sawing and milling!
That's a really cool rig. Time to see if you can get Stihl or Husqvarna to come knocking with a little sponsorship. You're quickly outgrowing your saws. Dave
@@HometownAcres I'm a Stihl guy but I'm not saying they are the best. They are just what I have. I can recommend without hesitation the 500i, 462c and 400c. Dave
I need to get a log arch now. I crushed my favorite saw getting it stuck in the cut like that. Had to rebuild it. Check out some saw tuning videos from Buckin' Billy Ray. Seems like yours might need to be leaned out a little on the high jet. If you're fighting the saw it makes precise felling work harder.
I’m no logger but that back cut looked pretty sketchy to me.. There was basically no hinge since it was even or maybe lower than the notch. Looked like the wedges gave it direction instead of the hinge forcing it away from you
I was really really worried for you when I saw you cutting below the notch. A tree that size is absolutely unforgiving, be careful out there. By the way that saw does not sound too good.
Need one 12 minute video and three reporters now. You can update the garage construction, Toss it too Doug for firewood and milling then over to your wife for pond and black berry updates. Who can we get to cover tools ,machinery and gadgets ?
You should make a GIF of you hollering "Doug" and use it for future videos. Honestly, I get a little nervous watching when trees are being felled, so my prayers are with the two of you. I want to see your videos (safely) for a long time!
At 6:40 prior you spend so much time to have all of the cutting gear on hand even with a log hauler at start of video but the first thing you do is to dragging your log in the dirt….. that’s what the log hauler is for!!! If you don’t drag log in the dirt then it will be easier on you mill blade!
That backcut didn't look level. I was a little worried for you but I'm glad it worked out. Did you know you can also use the dogs when felling a tree? It gives you a nice, even "swing" so that as long as you start off in the right plane you'll stay in the right plane.
I agree with everything you said and even though I know my cut wasn’t perfect there’s still something to be said for “easier said than done” I’m just a weekend warrior gaining experience and do not claim to be a professional arborist.
@@HometownAcres sorry, didn't mean to sound too judgey. It's actually harder to fell when the trees are small sometimes. I was just worried your bar was gonna get pinched of the tree sat back and went the other way. I've felled far worse than that and I'm happy it didn't catch up with me. 😁
No worries I’m always open to suggestions. My point was I know how to cut a tree down perfectly but there is a lot to be said for the craft and skill required to make it happen. meaning making the saw cut at exactly the right angles your brain knows it should be cut at haha
Concur with both of you. I have the same tendency, especially when I get tired, of letting the nose of the bar get lower. I have to concentrate on staying level when I set up my cuts.
You acknowledge the drop cut not being the best, but leaving the saw? I would have pulled out quick before taking off. Maybe it was stuck, I couldn't tell, but that big oak could have easily pounded your saw into the ground. Glad it didn't. As always, enjoyed the video. Been doing a lot of cutting here on the farm myself. Clearing old fencerows mostly. Gotta get some firewood soon as well.
If you would have raised the back of the log with the winch a few more chain links after hooking up the front, it would not have dragged on the ground. I actually built a log arch and it works well but you have to get the front up first, secure its chain, then raise the back, secure the chain, then release the winch cable enough to keep the load off of it when traveling. I was cringing when I saw the log being dragged through the mud. You had room to take the arch to the fallen log also. I didn't understand why it was dragged through the mud to another RTV waiting for it when the log arch can be wheeled by hand over the actual fallen log and picked up in place.
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thanks for posting, Awesome pc of equipment! I need one for my 25HP kubota to help move big logs around the farm/ from forest. You're in Guelph / Ontario area right? - where did you buy this Log Arch? I noticed the manufacturer is in USA with no mention of Canadian dealers.
Gotta say I laughed when you started calling for neighbor Doug and he came walking out of the woods. I’m sure as time and use goes you’ll develop a system for use. Good video. Looking forward to seeing the build come spring. Stay safe
Oh man, I thought that saw was a gonner when the log started to roll! Log arch works pretty good! Thanks for sharing, Adam.
It's the only thing I was like, Never do that... Don't leave a good saw to be crushed by a big oak...
Ya I’m not sure why he left it there
I had an 064 stihl saw crushed by a 27" white oak after I had abandoned it.
Just remember to never cut under your notch and always prune off the stump. The unlucky animal that stumbles and falls and impales itself might be you. Even the pros mark the trees with the saw to ensure a level cut. Not wanting to sound like a know it all, but getting into good habits early is a plus. You got some nice-looking logs from that tree. Cutting in winter is always preferred, the sap is down and both lumber and firewood cure quicker.
Agreed. The cut could cause the tree to twist on the stump as it is falling. Been there done that.
Yeah, to Jerry M's point, that is a very dangerous cut on that white oak...something that big and straight up should be felled with a bore cut and "directional felling" techniques.
With the amount of time you're spending out in the woods, would STRONGLY recommend you take a chainsaw safety course and timber felling instruction. It will save your life.
You're in PA, check out Game of Logging instructors. The absolute best.
I built a log arch from scratch about 15 years ago, and the design is nearly identical. I have 24 acres with very steep hills too. I used mine with my atv, and one of the things to watch for is that with a very heavy load it will push the 4 wheeler down the hill and will try to jacknife if you use the brakes too much. So having a little more weight at the back to drag a bit heavier and give a little more natural braking. Might be a good idea to hose off some of the drag mud before sawing. Maybe a tote with water and you submersible pump might be enough.
PS, HF has a two wheel dolly trailer handler that will hook onto the ball receiver and makes it much easier to move around by hand and is inexpensive.
That log arch looks like it works great, thanks for the review.
On a side note, that tree looked like an Ash not White Oak
Fell right onto the stump! Great job, Adam.
P.S. I went out into the woods and hollered for Doug. I yelled for 5 minutes. He never showed up. He must be out of range. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife I was SO impressed he dropped that tree on the stump! And to make it even better, the stump was RIGHT where he had to make his cut, AND, the stump was perfect height to keep the tree from pinching the bar !!!
AMAZING!!!
You're going to have to get a bat signal for Doug, lol. That's a great little setup for getting logs out of the woods.
Leave the hammer take the saw when you step away from the tree ! That was a near miss when the bottom of the trunk bounced and hit your saw !
I've seen the trunk smash a saw to unrepairable ! I'm sure you've cut many trees but we all get complaisant with time, hammers or axes are cheaper than a great saw.
If you winch the logs to the top of the arch at the front before wrapping the chains then do the same at the back it will keep most logs out of the mud and not dragging.
Great video as usual .
Absolutely agree, I lost a fairly new Stihl chainsaw that way, the tree bound the bar, then the tree started to rotate off the stump, releasing and swinging the saw, letting it fall exactly under where the butt of the tree slipped off of the stump directly on top of the powerhead and buried what was left of the saw about a foot underground....in what seemed like slow motion... as I watched in abject dismay...🤢..a quick way to lose $500.00 IMHO🤑
Hey Adam! One tip...if you can, just back the arch right over the log and pick it right where it falls. Any dragging gets tons of dirt in the bark and dulls your band saw blades quickly! I make one from scratch years ago and it looks almost identical! One other tip 😁 if your block under the front of the log when you drop it is shorter than the wheelbase of the arch, you can drive away once you drop it without catching on your block ....
First off, I love the design idea for the front of the garage! It makes it that much cooler that you are cutting and making your own beams! Also, that log skidder is slick! You’re making me want a sawmill.
Ann and I laughed when you called for Doug, that was a good one Adam. Great video thumbs up.
I use a RuggedMade log dolly skidding arch along with a tail end log dolly to keep the end from dragging in the mud. Sure makes skidding a lot cleaner. Good video. -Dave
"Oh, there you are" 😂
The two of you together are quite the team, great video as always!
Thank you for consistently good content. I think my personal favorite is when you're working in the trees, and calling for Doug was a bonus! Keep up the good work and thanks for inviting us to join, vicariously, in on the fun again.
Haha, ole reliable Doug hangin out in the woods! Thought it was Sasquatch for a minute
Adam, you’re one of the few people who I watch on YT who I’d actually like to hang out with and have a beer 🍻. You’re just a quality guy. You remind me of me. It’s obvious that you have a soft and loving side, but you also have a strong and manly side. You have the right balance, as do I. You have my respect and admiration. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and yours.
I appreciate the compliment and kind words. Maybe we’ll catch you at a meet up in the future
Using the Husqvarna 455 on that big oak? Why not the Holzfforma? That arch is nice. It’s definitely time to park the tractor until mud season is over. I’m doing the same. It works out to be a good time to do some tractor maintenance and repairs before the busy spring/summer work.
You have a side by side so put a hitch in front, turn around and hook it to the front and you can push very easy and see easily how to steer it to the spot so less dragging of logs to a pickup point. Also on the arm which is called a reach can be cut into.... a smaller piece of square stock can be slid inside of it so its adjustable in the overall length. Like your engine hoist and just slide a bolt through it where the length is right for you. Keeping them logs out of the dirt will make the blade on the sawmill a lot happier also. What a nice little setup. I made mine thirty years ago and have electric winches plus tongs to pick with. Tongs reach on either side of the log and have points to hook the log with
Thanks for sharing Adam, you two make a good team working together! Here's what I used to pull chokers under logs. When I was logging.
To get your chain under the log or logs . Take a peace of 1/2 inch diameter put a ring on one end . Put a slight arch to it . Works slick pulling your chain through. I like your arch well done
I hate to say it, but when You were making that back cut I thought I was looking at Joe from JPF. That log arch works great for hauling
Yeah I don’t claim to be an expert. I’m a weekend warrior who managed to get the tree on the ground safely
@@HometownAcres
Same here, I last 2 I cut down I messed up also, as long as the trees are down and no one got hurt it is a good day
Yep all the loggerz are gonna judge.i get LUCKY probably more than I should.i have pinched my saws way more than I would like to admit. As long as the tree is down and no damage good to go! I don't leave home with out another saw and extra chains.
Good video. It was funny when you called for Doug and he just appeared. Lol
Adam the log arch worked pretty good but what I liked to see how good friends you and Doug have become and work so good together. 👍
The Doug call is the funniest thing I’ve seen today.
After dragging the log through the mud and dirt it might be a good idea to pressure wash them before you put them on the mill to minimize wear and damage to the blade.
Your commentary is always interesting. You also have a very 'want to listen to voice'. Nice one :)
That’s a pretty amazing rig! Something that would take about 3 hours of welding in the shop….which informs me of what I get to do for the next 3 hours! Thanks for the idea!
I built a very similar arch and it cost me a lot less than buying one including the hubs, axles, tires, and rims. The winch that I already owned was detachable from the mill for loading without a tractor and fit perfectly inside a 2x2 steel tube I added to the log arch. I actually enjoyed building it and mine is a few feet longer than the one here and cost about half of the purchased one in the link shown. Today it will cost more but that was a few years ago before Biden took office.
My homemade arch hauls 24 ft log 36 in diameter. Exactly what you want to help clean up aft a hurricane. Not much yard damage
Log arches are game changers.
Cool side by side log puller. That’s some valuable logs.
Outstanding new tool. I won’t ever need one personally, but it was a video worth watching from beginning to end. Roll the logs in the field on a branch to give you a cable pass through. Just a thought. I’ll be here to watch you mill.
Adam I really believe you could benefit from 1 of cotontop3 chainsaw classes he's a very knowledgeable man when it comes to chainsaws and falling trees.
TFS. Allways take the saw with. Nice arch! I added a front cradle to mine. It can lift rear of the log without too much tongue lift.
Neighbor Doug is going to need to weld you up a set of attachable rear axels!! That looks like a sweet (and massive) log arch. Niiiice Adam!
I built a logging arch similar to that pushing thirty years ago. Still have it still use it. Amazing how similar they look.
I ran into a situation where my saw jammed in the tree. I hadn’t put a wedge in the cut. The tree rolled and fell with my saw in it, smashing my saw! Expensive fire wood that trip😢. My heart was in my mouth when I saw it bounce back on your saw😖. Glad you were clear.... you can replace a saw, but not the saw owner. Enjoyed your video, thanks!
“I heard a chainsaw running, so I started running..” I got a good laugh from that. 😂
I have an arch that looks really close to that , that I built it’s nice if you don’t want to drag logs and get dirt in the bark. I have a 2 wheel drive 350cc atv and have moved logs with it. I built a “v” at the front to hold the logs from swinging around.
The tree looked like a tooth pick to me until you put the saw into to cut down. Huge tree , really nice log trailer. 😀
Must be nice. I think I’ll do something fancy for my new garage. I’ll go cur down a tree and mill some 6x6 lumber. Living the good life. We need to see you cut out the 6x6 lumber and making the fancy pouch. 😎
I am no expert by any means... but I will share what I have learned about "notching" the tree... Yes, your aim is great so you have the hinge part down. When you have a healthy solid tree, you can take a much bigger initial cut. On a dead or softer tree you cut might have been ok. By taking the bigger bite you might not have to even use the wedges. At the end of the day... you got the tree down safely and where you wanted it.
I have two tractors. An older Kubota with chains anda brandnew Kioti without chains - brand new tires. The difference in traction without chains is obvious. So I made a set out from some Harbor freight chain,cross link ends off Ebay and pieces of random chain that were around my buildings. Tractor chains are very expensive. I have plowed our 900 ft driveway for 15 years and without the chains its a pain. Good tractor chains are held on top of the lugs. ours fall between but still work fine. The ice comes early and stays late. In mud they are good too, My advice is make some. I have to make some kind of arch because dragging logs thru mud will ruin your mill blades fast. We bought a new woodland 126 14 hp we will setup on a slab out back. We had a mill years ago but it was a rather crude setup. Having a solid base under the mill makes a huge difference. I ran a slab with extra conc we ordered for one of our other buildings. We have lots of ledge so you clean it off and make forms. Its easy peasy.
In response to those questioning dragging the log end: Having a drag point may prevent a jackknife when using your side by side pulling downhill. I'm sure that log outweighs both you and your side by side. You can always clean the mud off that end before sawing.
Ooooh Adam. I had my saw stuck while cutting like that (big oak) and it twisted like that and landed on my saw, squished it flat. Super bummer but glad to see yours is ok
I thought I was an amateur when it came to cutting down trees. This is a great training video.
VERY good!
A bit longer draw bar can lift the back end as well with no road damage at all.
But this is so good!
Well done.
That's is pretty impressive, you said it was faster than a skidder you may be right there however a skidder will pull way way more per trip out the woods.. but with that being said for what it is it does work well..
Fantastic video!
I took some scrap metal and a car hitch. A friend welded up my design and it has been working great. Even put a video up about it last week. tHanks for the video
I think you could’ve cranked it up a little bit higher and have it totally airborne. That thing is nice!!!
Batman has a signal.
Doug has a holler.
Lol
@@HometownAcres Lovely vid Adam. I'm sat working at my kitchen table here in the UK, watching you and Doug playing in the woods.
I built one very similar to that one (you can see it on my channel) - except mine did not have the winch on it. I've used it a couple times now and love it. I'm getting ready to use it to haul some logs out of a gully.
For everyone else.
I just strap a sack truck to the end of the logs. $30 no drag at all 😊
You guys need to fab up adjustable log stop on the hitch side.That way when you raise the log, the front stops and, the back can clear the ground.
Sure am jealous. Would really like to have oak to put on my mill. I'm up in central BC, no hard woods, but we do have lots of Fir. As for the log arch, I'm sold. I could pay for it in the blades I don't wreck due to dirt. Thanks for the vid.
Nice log Arch for user friendly design just need to look at lengthening of the hoist by 8-12" would be nice maybe Doug has a way to extend the frame? Anyway As always good luck and God Bless.
I’m here to say, that log arch sure is an awesome way to get perfect logs out of the woods. No ruts and dirty logs! But even with all these cool things you have I’m sure most viewers are more interested in where you got those exceptionally nice rugged warm gloves from? Those look like a must have item! 😁
The boot box if I remember correctly
Doug, you'll have to figure out a way to get a wheel contraption for the back of the log so there will be no dragging at all. I'm pretty sure you can figure something out that is cheap and practical.
I'm sure that "Neighbor Doug" could Fabricate a Wheel Dolly for the Trailing end for the Logs!
nice clean drop of that ash tree Adam. be cautious using it for exterior framing though. Its as strong as the white oak you thought is was but wont resist rot. I have a small barn framed in ash and hickory. if you over hang your roof enough and keep your post bases high and darin away from the end grain itl hold up. nice bottom log though. those are gunna get rare.
Ash???
@@OneEyeCustoms it's white Ash, or sure looks like it to me (worked in the bush for 30 years)
5:18 "Sound the Horn of Doug! Adam calls for Aid!"
Log arch !!! 👍👍and Doug's tape.
You could use a sled under the back end of the log.....that way you still have some weight on the back for resistance/braking,but log stays cleaner.
Your saw got poped by that log 3-4ft! So glad it didn't get crushed, stay safe
That log trailer is awesome.
Nice video. I have a V-LXRONG LogRite Log Stand on my cant hook - comes in handy to lift logs.
Just found your channel.
Pretty sure that was an Ash you cut.
Should of used the arch right where you dropped the tree, it keeps the dirt out of the bark that I turn dulls the saw blade.
But things are looking great!
You are very right about your skills at least on the main cut WoW!
Good, informative video Adam! You and Doug work well together.
That side by side can pull. I've never driven one. Beautiful way to get that timber out.
Would the arch work better if there was a cross piece in front to raise the log to? You could put a notch to nest the log in and raise the log so the rear won’t drag at all. I’m sure Doug could weld something up.
I wondered that as well.
Why does everyone make the angle cut second? It is easier and more accurate to make the horizontal cut last. It's easier judging the cut.
I’m a novice. I will try this next time
Thanks for mentioning that!
I will try that as well.
@@haroldphipps3457 I've been cutting for 50 years. Could be just me, but I find it easier. Also, I always use a wedge BEFORE the cut stars to close and pinch the bar. Let me know what you think. Shalom/gw
Perfect example of why you shouldn't have your woods cut. You can do this stuff another 30 years.
Have to agree, $20 - $40 K now isn’t going to make up for a more mature, managed forest 30 years down the track.
I built a log arch I use mine a lot it the berries for logging
Try to weld the arc of the upper part of the frame as a limiter, the log on the chains will not sway. Thanks for video.
If you take a 3/8 piece of round stock about 2 feet long and attach it to a piece of chain. Then you can hook it to the winch cable and easily push the rod under the log and pull the cable threw.
My neighbor made one for his son and I think he’s gonna build one For himself
500i!! A tree like this white oak will produce a couple hundred in firewood. Wouldn’t take long to have greater profit that what the loggers wanted to pay.
Hey man here is a tip for you in measuring logs because a tape can be a real pain sometimes. I've cut timber for 28 years and have always just cut a 4 feet stick in the woods and took my saw and put a mark at two feet. Then when you measure never pick up the stick just roll it and each time it's 4,8,10,12,16 and so on then for ten footers you have the two foot mark. You can tie some bright surveyors' tape to each end to keep up with it easier. This is just way faster then using a tape measure and if it's lost you can make another in two minutes no big deal. Also brother don't take this as bashing but i can tell you haven't cut tons of timber so just please be careful! No tree is worth your life or the life of a nearby friend! If something ever goes wrong it happens lightning fast. Those trees are heavy and have lots of pressure. It becomes second nature the more we do it but nobody is too good to get hurt or die. I got hurt in October for the 1st time ever while cutting trees. No saw was involved it was just a ground level fall from slipping now my arm will never be the same again from all the screws and metal and loss of strength and motion. I like your way of skidding by the way. It's good for a guy who is doing stuff for himself who don't want to drop a fortune. Be safe and happy sawing and milling!
Doug is having too much fun!!!!
got lucky the tree didnt get the saw
That's a really cool rig.
Time to see if you can get Stihl or Husqvarna to come knocking with a little sponsorship. You're quickly outgrowing your saws. Dave
Yes we are. We’ve been looking at saws for a while now. Just kind of fell to the wayside with the garage and excavator shopping.
@@HometownAcres I'm a Stihl guy but I'm not saying they are the best. They are just what I have. I can recommend without hesitation the 500i, 462c and 400c. Dave
I need to get a log arch now.
I crushed my favorite saw getting it stuck in the cut like that. Had to rebuild it. Check out some saw tuning videos from Buckin' Billy Ray. Seems like yours might need to be leaned out a little on the high jet. If you're fighting the saw it makes precise felling work harder.
I have the same idea, but using a dolly. And wheel barrow wheels
I’m no logger but that back cut looked pretty sketchy to me.. There was basically no hinge since it was even or maybe lower than the notch. Looked like the wedges gave it direction instead of the hinge forcing it away from you
I love that you have a log arch but decide to drag it through the dirt first.
I was really really worried for you when I saw you cutting below the notch. A tree that size is absolutely unforgiving, be careful out there. By the way that saw does not sound too good.
Harbor freight has a convertible timber Jack/cant hook for a reasonable price
Check also northern tool
"OUCH" says the chainsaw at 4:38 !
Don’t forget to mill the crotch part, it’ll have beautiful grainy slabs $$$. Blessings brothers.
My neighbors don't even come out of the house to help no one.
Need one 12 minute video and three reporters now.
You can update the garage construction,
Toss it too Doug for firewood and milling then over to your wife for pond and black berry updates.
Who can we get to cover tools ,machinery and gadgets ?
Haha wouldn’t that be something
For 12 foot the beam on arch needs to be longer so the log won’t drag and would give better traction s little more weight on hitch
You should make a GIF of you hollering "Doug" and use it for future videos. Honestly, I get a little nervous watching when trees are being felled, so my prayers are with the two of you. I want to see your videos (safely) for a long time!
At 6:40 prior you spend so much time to have all of the cutting gear on hand even with a log hauler at start of video but the first thing you do is to dragging your log in the dirt….. that’s what the log hauler is for!!! If you don’t drag log in the dirt then it will be easier on you mill blade!
That backcut didn't look level. I was a little worried for you but I'm glad it worked out. Did you know you can also use the dogs when felling a tree? It gives you a nice, even "swing" so that as long as you start off in the right plane you'll stay in the right plane.
I agree with everything you said and even though I know my cut wasn’t perfect there’s still something to be said for “easier said than done” I’m just a weekend warrior gaining experience and do not claim to be a professional arborist.
@@HometownAcres sorry, didn't mean to sound too judgey. It's actually harder to fell when the trees are small sometimes. I was just worried your bar was gonna get pinched of the tree sat back and went the other way. I've felled far worse than that and I'm happy it didn't catch up with me. 😁
No worries I’m always open to suggestions. My point was I know how to cut a tree down perfectly but there is a lot to be said for the craft and skill required to make it happen. meaning making the saw cut at exactly the right angles your brain knows it should be cut at haha
Concur with both of you. I have the same tendency, especially when I get tired, of letting the nose of the bar get lower. I have to concentrate on staying level when I set up my cuts.
You acknowledge the drop cut not being the best, but leaving the saw? I would have pulled out quick before taking off. Maybe it was stuck, I couldn't tell, but that big oak could have easily pounded your saw into the ground. Glad it didn't. As always, enjoyed the video. Been doing a lot of cutting here on the farm myself. Clearing old fencerows mostly. Gotta get some firewood soon as well.
If you would have raised the back of the log with the winch a few more chain links after hooking up the front, it would not have dragged on the ground. I actually built a log arch and it works well but you have to get the front up first, secure its chain, then raise the back, secure the chain, then release the winch cable enough to keep the load off of it when traveling. I was cringing when I saw the log being dragged through the mud.
You had room to take the arch to the fallen log also. I didn't understand why it was dragged through the mud to another RTV waiting for it when the log arch can be wheeled by hand over the actual fallen log and picked up in place.
Wranglstar uses a car hood to skid the logs on , keeps the log clean and your saw sharp
Wow, 90,000 subscribers, hooray!
Doug is turning into a RUclips sensation 😉!